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Speaker 1: Welcome, finally to the twentieth annual s F sketch Fest,

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco Comedy Festival. For tickets and show schedules,

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Speaker 1: visit us at SF Sketchfest dot com and follow us

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Speaker 1: silence your cell phones and refrain from texting during the performance.

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Speaker 1: Video and photography are strictly prohibited. Enjoy the show. Would

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Speaker 1: you all excuse me a minute, I need to make

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Speaker 1: a phone call. Hey, Sophie. Yeah, So I'm here at

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Speaker 1: the thing, you know, the award show for the sketchiest

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Speaker 1: man in podcasting. Well, I'm wearing my award robe and

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Speaker 1: I'm carrying my awards staff. But it's become clear to

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Speaker 1: me that this is not, in fact an award. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not what Sketch Fest means. Yeah, I know. I

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Speaker 1: was shocked to learn it too. I think they're expecting

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Speaker 1: me to perform an episode of Behind the Bastards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: this is a real problem. This is a real problem. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: I keep next to my heart a podcast script for

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Speaker 1: emergencies at all times, but we're gonna need a guest,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't have anyone booked. Wait a second, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later. Helloine, play along. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: have a I'm here at the Gateway Theater and we've

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Speaker 1: had a horrible attack of airborne syphilis. Start moaning. Come on,

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Speaker 1: give me, give me, give me some moans. Oh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's bad. You need to get a doctor down here immediately.

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Speaker 1: Can we get a doctor sent into the theater? Doctor

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Speaker 1: kave Hoda, Thank you for coming on such short notice,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Hoda. I heard there was an uncontrollable amount of

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Speaker 1: syphilis here. That is the case, but we can ignore

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Speaker 1: that the actual and I called nine one one was

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Speaker 1: because I have a script and I need some help

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Speaker 1: reading it. No, you view. I know it's not the

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Speaker 1: first time, and it won't be the last that I

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Speaker 1: use nine one one for my own purposes. But can

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Speaker 1: I take this white coat off I haven't worn this night.

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Speaker 1: It's actually quite hot up here. I'll keep the podcasting staff,

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Speaker 1: I'll keep the podcasting picture out of the knife. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you lend me. Yeah. Now I'm in my much more

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Speaker 1: normal outfit of my shoot dope. Fuck the cops hoodie,

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Speaker 1: which I own, mainly because wearing this hoodie through the

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Speaker 1: TSA checkpoint is quite a bit of fun. You have,

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Speaker 1: you have a different experience every time in every country. Kabe,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Man? I am so glad

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Speaker 1: to be here. There's nobody and no crowd. I would

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Speaker 1: rather get an airborne disease from than you. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: this is of all the crowds to get an airborne

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Speaker 1: find them. They definitely have something, and it's okay because

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Speaker 1: it's worth it. I think this is this is worth

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Speaker 1: the risk speaking of people who probably have some sort

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Speaker 1: of disease. Actually, you know, I say that I kind

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Speaker 1: of brought you all here on false pretenses because normally

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Speaker 1: this is a podcast about the very worst people in

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Speaker 1: all of history. But every now and then we talk

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Speaker 1: about a hero, and today we're talking about the man

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Speaker 1: who might be my hero. Do you know who Brian

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Speaker 1: Johnson is. Well, he might be better known by his

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Speaker 1: other name, the Liver King. Oh that's oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of videos. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of videos cued up for you. Motherfucker's so strapping. Okay, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: first of all, let me explain to the crowd who

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Speaker 1: But I am a liver doctor. I am a jogist.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that some guy had the gall to

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Speaker 1: round is is apollo. It is. There's a lot that

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Speaker 1: Brian Johnson, which is the Liver King's real name, was

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Speaker 1: born on April seventh, nineteen seventy seven, in San Antonio, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Probably basically all the information we have this guy on

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Speaker 1: He is a professional liar, so this should all be

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Speaker 1: taken with a grain of salt. Now. Brian has claimed

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Speaker 1: quote from Brian here. I remember Peter's pitch. He would

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Speaker 1: currently subscribed to the San Antonio Light. We would like

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Speaker 1: know then he'd say, ma'am, we're little kids. We're just

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Speaker 1: Were doing all of that? No? No, I printed two

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Speaker 1: his life and he is not, at some point in

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Speaker 1: And this is something that he says because it acted

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Speaker 1: evolutionary hunter, the unrelenting fighter, the serial ancestral entrepreneur that

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Speaker 1: I am today. Because everyone knows the cavemen, the reason

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Speaker 1: the Cavemen beat the Neanderthals as they were better at

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Speaker 1: getting VC funding. Everyone in San Francisco knows that, yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 1: so The other, more believable version of the story is

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Speaker 1: The defining moment of his adolescence bear with me here,

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Speaker 1: was when one of his friends compared him to Mark Wahlberg,

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Speaker 1: a statement that he says, probably changed my life forever.

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Speaker 1: And wow, yeah, you shouldn't want to be compared to Mark. No. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm very pro people, you know, getting bit if that's

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Speaker 1: from his late teens or early twenties, and he is

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Speaker 1: he's in very good shape, but he's a pretty normal

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Speaker 1: don't like to do it during orientation. That's well a

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Speaker 1: ways a serial liar. Um, and he does. He claims that.

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Speaker 1: So at age twenty one, he says he started working

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Speaker 1: those years. Given the time. For sure, this guy was

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Speaker 1: selling pills. Oh dick pills. I was gonna say opiates.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, No, for sure he did that too. Yep, yeah, yep, yep, yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: So he came from would you say modest means or

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Speaker 1: hold on, there's a bingo? Did you? Did? You? Guys

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Speaker 1: bring your card? Unbelievable slackers, weak fans. The liver King

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Speaker 1: will go. But since y'all aren't going to hear an ad,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an ad. I wasn't paid

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Speaker 1: for for a product that I this is just for

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Speaker 1: a thing I think people should buy. So this is

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Speaker 1: called a flipper zero. Has anybody ever heard of these

428
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Speaker 1: motherfucking things. So this is a device that lets you

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Speaker 1: that lets you basically like scan and replicate infrared and

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Speaker 1: other kind of different like signals that like remotes and

431
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Speaker 1: stuff you. So one thing you can do with this

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Speaker 1: is a say or at cees and say you are

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Speaker 1: harassing the irrepresentatives at their booth. You can from your

434
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Speaker 1: pocket repeatedly turn off all of their televisions. Theoretically someone

435
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: could do this. Another thing you can theoretically do with

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Speaker 1: a flipper zero available now on Amazon dot com. Can

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Speaker 1: I Tell You is open the charging ports of every

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Speaker 1: on every street you walk back. That's what he does.

439
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: You can theoretically do with a flipper zero. That's what

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Speaker 1: he uses it for. Fuck with my car. People have

441
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: also figured out how to use him to shut off

442
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: those robot dogs. So they're pretty cool and they're not

443
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: going to be legal forever. Pick one up if you can.

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Speaker 1: Back to the show. So Brian's business is a huge hit.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, one of the key things about if you're

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Speaker 1: selling these kind of health products is you have to

447
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: either terrify people into believing that your products are the

448
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Speaker 1: only thing that will stop their body from falling apart,

449
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: or you have to convince them that you alone can

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Speaker 1: give them the body of their dreams. Now, Brian knew

451
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Speaker 1: that if he wanted to take his business to the

452
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Speaker 1: next level, he was going to have to do one

453
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Speaker 1: of these things, so he decided to do both. In

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Speaker 1: early twenty twenty one thereabouts, Brian contacted one DS Collective,

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Speaker 1: which is a social media marketing firm for influencers. Now,

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Speaker 1: because these are some of the worst people on planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: They describe their business as quote a collective of global

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Speaker 1: creatives who specialize in social snackable media. Does anyone else

459
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: get like a visceral gut reaction when you hear snackable media?

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00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: It's unreal, Great folks, it was from this collaboration that

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Speaker 1: the idea of the liver would be born. One BuzzFeed

462
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: article explains, he approached us because he wanted guidance, said

463
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Speaker 1: Sam Parham, a director at influencer marketing and management agency

464
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: one DS Collective, which specializes in video production and brand

465
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: management for social media. One DS began filming the brand

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Speaker 1: of liver King, creating short form video content to capture

467
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Speaker 1: Johnson's extreme lifestyle. Johnson and DS have maintained that their

468
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Speaker 1: primary goal in building a liver King social media brand

469
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Speaker 1: was to spread the ancestral message rather than to sell

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Speaker 1: Johnson's products. One DS called Johnson the leader of the

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Speaker 1: ship and solely responsible for his likeness in brand, which

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Speaker 1: is a good legal idea. Now, the ancestral message here

473
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: was that people needed to eat hoof to tail. This

474
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Speaker 1: is fine, like look I raise in slaughter livestock. If

475
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Speaker 1: you're going to be doing that, you should, in fact

476
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: use every single part of that animal. That's a fine

477
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: idea in practice. But what Brian is doing is just

478
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: trying to get people to buy supplements made from ground

479
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Speaker 1: up organs. He bought cast off from cattle somewhere. The

480
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Speaker 1: stroke of brilliance that one DS had was to convince

481
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: people organ meat was good for them by having a

482
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: massively jacked dude eat raw liver and guts on camera

483
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: repeatedly and then credit that for his giant muscles. Now again,

484
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: organ meats perfectly healthy. There's a lot of good reasons

485
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: to eat it, but it doesn't work that. It doesn't

486
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: just magically make you jack. There is nothing that is

487
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: particularly healthy about it. Brian had up to this point

488
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: built his physique the way most muscular men do. He

489
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: had eaten huge amounts of way protein and lean meat

490
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: while working out right and you know, careful about his diet,

491
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: not drinking all that good stuff. But one DS decided

492
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: if Brian, the thing to do was to have Brian

493
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: chow down on raw organs, and that would make people

494
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: want to copy him. Right, But eating raw organs sucks,

495
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: So when they couldn't do that, then they would buy

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Speaker 1: his supplements. That's the business plan, right. It is unclear

497
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Speaker 1: who came up with the name liver King. There's evidence

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Speaker 1: that Brian had used the name in emails for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, so probably him. But the folks at

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00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: one DS figured out everything else, including naming his fandom

501
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: before it existed, as this case study from their website

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00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: makes clear. Can we get the next image? Oh yeah,

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00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Now, now I'm gonna point something out. If

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00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: y'all aren't real steroid heads, what you got going on

505
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: there in the belly region is what they call bubble gut,

506
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Speaker 1: and it's a mix of taking human growth hormone with

507
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: usually insulin. It's a thing bodybuilders do. It helps them

508
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: like pump up and stuff. But it's not a thing

509
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: that just happens normally. But those are not normal. If

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: their abs look like they are smuggling Boa constrictors under

511
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: their skin, what would you call those like areas right

512
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: there on the exterior of his six packs? Well, those

513
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: are normally your obliques. Okay, yeah, what else do people

514
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: call those? Oh, on the other side of his abs? No,

515
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Like that area right there that deep area in which

516
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: there could pool fluid, for example, what would you call that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Comma, what come gutters? Thank you for

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Speaker 1: fuck say? I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He wasn't a guy playing a guitar and

520
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: a weird I only recognize cum gutters if they make

521
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: me want to come. So that's obviously David Koresh. I'm

522
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: going to tell you guys right now, I don't want

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00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: you to look like that. I don't know. That's not normal.

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00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: This is not anyway. Look, so I think it's interesting

525
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: to look at the way they talk about this here,

526
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Like they name what he's going to call his fan

527
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Speaker 1: base is primals, because he's doing this whole like back

528
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: to nature, caveman eating things, So that's what he's going

529
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: to call his people. The way in which this is

530
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: all laid out, if you want to really lose your

531
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: faith or just get angry at humanity, go to the

532
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: one DS website and look at their whole plan for

533
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: making the Liver King a brand phenomenon. Because we'll talk

534
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: about this more, but part of what they're doing here

535
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: is everybody's agreeing to make money by having this man

536
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: destroy his heart, which is I don't feel that sympathetic

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00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: for Brian, but that is what's happening here. So one

538
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: DS does not rag about this on their website. But

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00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: one of the things that Brian had to set up

540
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: before he became the Liver King was a backstory as

541
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Speaker 1: fraudulent as it was convincing to the kind of people

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Speaker 1: who make healthcare decisions based on what a large man

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Speaker 1: with a TikTok tells them. So he decided to do

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Speaker 1: this by claiming his sons had suffered largely unspecified health problems.

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Speaker 1: He claims that they started having allergies around two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four. Now this is odd because his oldest son,

547
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Striker with a Why oh Jess, wait, Jess Waite, you

548
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: haven't had heard a son's name yet. His oldest son's

549
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Striker is fifteen, and his youngest son, Rad is thirteen.

550
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: He would only be better if one of his kids

551
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: was named like Killer. Look, look, I gotta say it

552
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: right now. This is San Francisco, so it's appropriate to

553
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: do it. I am taking away Elon's Musk's worst at

554
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: naming a baby trophy. I would rather have whatever we're

555
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: fucking there we go, Oh, we're okay, we're on there too.

556
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I would rather be named whatever a weird equation his

557
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: kid is named than Striker or rat unbelievable rad. So

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: again he's lying about this because he says that, like

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00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: they started having allergies when they were like in around

560
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and four Strikers fifteen. This would mean that like, uh, yeah,

561
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: his oldest son wasn't. Yeah, None of the timeline actually

562
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: like works out here, And the fact that he lies

563
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: about the timeline is consistent with the fact that he

564
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: lies about everything. He doesn't meet his wife until two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, so there's no way he would have

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Speaker 1: had a kid old enough that he was noticing this

567
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: problem anyway. As he claims, Striker spelled like the Armored

568
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Personnel Carrier had serious health problems as a young kid

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Speaker 1: that Brian attributed to do you know what Panda's is?

570
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Pa n das? Oh boy, god damn, you're making me

571
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: go way back into pediatrics. I don't. Yeah, it's this easily,

572
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: remember it. We're going to try not to get too

573
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: much into the weeds here. It is an ailment that

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00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: may or may not exist a pediatric The symptoms definitely exist.

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00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: There's a debate as to whether or not it should

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Speaker 1: be categorized in the way that some people categorize it.

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: A pediatrician first described PANDUS clinically in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: and it was an attempt to explain that there seems

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Speaker 1: to be an association between strep throat OCD and tipped

580
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: disorders like Tourette syndrome. Doctors have for a very long

581
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: time recognized some connection between streptococcal infection and tremors or convulsions.

582
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: This is what people Saint Vitus's dance was like. This

583
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: is a thing that has been recognized for a while,

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00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: and some parents notice it occurring alongside a rapid change

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Speaker 1: in personality on behalf of the child. Doctors who are

586
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: skeptical of PANDUS as a diagnosis will note that stuff

587
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: like OCD can seem like it comes on suddenly and

588
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: changes a kid's personality, and that since kids get strep

589
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: throat like crazy, the fact that some of these kids

590
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: have strep diagnoses recently doesn't mean there's a causitive relation.

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Speaker 1: This is all heavily debated. I'm not taking aside on

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Speaker 1: this one. Where Yeather, there's a legitimate debate. Here you

593
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: can find science, scientists and doctors talking on both side

594
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: of this. But the problem occurs because a group of

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Speaker 1: activist parents have kind of latched onto pandas as a

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00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: way to explain any behavior they find problematic in their

597
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: kid in various naturopathic websites and discussion forums. The list

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Speaker 1: of triggers for pandas has grown from STREPP, which is

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Speaker 1: the thing that there's some evidence for, to lyme disease,

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00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: mono and herpies. They've also added anorexia, autism, and ADHD

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Speaker 1: to the list of illnesses it causes, and there's no

602
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: scientific basis for this. These parents are well known for

603
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: embracing bizarre cult remedies. Some of them give their kids

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Speaker 1: uh rituximab, which is an immunosuppressant mostly used for cancer patients.

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00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: And you probably shouldn't give your kid just because they

606
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: have like a tick. The whole thing Togeah, probably shouldn't

607
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: just be handing that to kids. This can kill children

608
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: and has in the past. More often. The prescriptions are

609
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. One Oklahoma based company sells donkey milk as

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Speaker 1: a PANDAS treat that makes sense, which is Okay, I'm

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00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: fine with that. Give your kids docky milk. That's that's

612
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: all right. I mean that's like the least awful thing. Yeah,

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00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: probably not going to do any harm. Yeah, give him

614
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: some docky milk, they'll be okay. So Brian claims that

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00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: his son's pant strikers panda's eventually got so bad that

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00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: he walked up to his dad with a baseball bat

617
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Speaker 1: and said he wanted to bash his brains in rather

618
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: than deal with intrusive thoughts. Now that like, that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a serious thing. I have a loved one who

620
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: has intrusive thoughts as a result of OCD, and this

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Speaker 1: specific anecdote is the closest to a thing Brian has

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Speaker 1: said that I believe like that is a thing that occurs.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that it's caused by pandas or whatever,

624
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that the rest of what he

625
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: says is true, but that is a thing that happens

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00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: in videos made since he became the liver King. Brian

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00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: claims this is what prompted him to reevaluate everything he

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Speaker 1: knew about nutrition. He was feeding his kids a normal

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Speaker 1: American diet, but when he switched there in the family's

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Speaker 1: diet to primal foods, most mostly a mix of raw

631
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Speaker 1: organ's bone, marrow and maple syrup. All of there. Why

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Speaker 1: that's not what are you guys ee? The maple serve

633
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: helps to go down and this is where things get

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00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: problematic for Brian. He says all of their health problems start,

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Speaker 1: and his children started to have a personality, which is

636
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: kind of an offensive way to refer to somebody who

637
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: has OCD. Like now, this leaves us with one of

638
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: two possibilities. The first is that Striker had an actual

639
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: health problem and it's a little party. It's rough, it hurts.

640
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: The first is that this kid had an actual serious

641
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: health problem and that his dad is choosing to use

642
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: it for propaganda, which is bad. The second is that

643
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: he made all of this up um and that I

644
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: don't know if that's worse. I guess it's better because

645
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: the kid's not dealing with the thing, but also it's

646
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of worse morally, right if I don't know, I

647
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: actually have no idea this. That's one for the philosophers. Um. So,

648
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: if we assume Striker had to be at least eight

649
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: or nine to express something like the complex emotion he

650
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: expressed to his dad, and that anecdote. The earliest realistically

651
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: this could have happened is twenty fourteen or fifteen. The

652
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: last real thing Brian Johnson had to do after coming

653
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: up with this probably lie about his children was the simplest,

654
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: which was to get a gigantic barbarian warrior body. Now,

655
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: as you guys saw, he's a pretty fit dude. That's

656
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: a that's a swoll swoll fella right there. But normal

657
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: guy muscular does not look impressive today in a world

658
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: with you know, Wayne the Rock Johnson. Right. It is

659
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: one of those if you want to look at how

660
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: body image standards for male action stars and movies have changed,

661
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: watch This is a problematic movie in a number of ways.

662
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: But watch the second Indiana Jones movie if you look

663
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: at them, if you listen to the behind the seats commentary,

664
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford spent months getting in shape for that and

665
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: was like one of the swollest men, Hollywood, are you

666
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: talking about the which one is the super racists? Super racist? Yeah,

667
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: there is a super racist one, okay, that is that

668
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: is the one is supposed to be jacked in the

669
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Obviously he became the sex symbol for generations of men

670
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: and women. Um, but today, if you were casting a

671
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: guy with that body type in a Hollywood movie, he

672
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: would be like the engineer. He'd be like the nerdy

673
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: guy on the Comsuter seven times his body way, the

674
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: old Superman was a guy who had like just basically

675
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: kind of a barrel like body. Dude. Yeah, it's things

676
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: have changed over time. We'll be talking about this more later.

677
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: So Brian could not simply be a fit guy and

678
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: tell people to eat raw organs. That's not going to work.

679
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: So he starts using the millions of dollars. He has

680
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: to find one of the many friendly steroid doctors who

681
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: would prescribe him a dizzy and cocktail of peptides and hormones. Now,

682
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: I want to note this is not an illegal process.

683
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: He has a prescription for everything that he gets, and

684
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: this is not a haphazard process. He's getting his blood tested,

685
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: He's getting like all sorts of different constantly. He is

686
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: paying millions of dollars over time for this. You don't

687
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: get this without looking going through him. Yeah, Like there's

688
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: a whole machine behind you get this ridiculous body. Yeah,

689
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: and we know exactly what he took and did because

690
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: he sent a list of his workout regimen, of his

691
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: steroid regimen, and his blood tests to several experts he

692
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't wind up working with, and one of them later

693
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: published it. Because if you're trying to okay, yeah, he's like,

694
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: my kidney's all right, look at this? Are you okay

695
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: with this? His problem was more than he didn't think

696
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: he was big enough. That's great. Um. So obviously this

697
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: is not a hipA violation because if you just email

698
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: your steroid history to a dude with a bodybuilding YouTube,

699
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: HIPPA does not cover that. The dude with the YouTube

700
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: is well within his rights to post that shit. Um.

701
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: Because of this, we know that the bill for his

702
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: HGH alone was eleven thousand dollars a month. Now that's

703
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: a lot of hghum. He spent about fifteen thousand dollars

704
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: a month in total on his steroids preparing to become

705
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: the Liver King. But when he and one DS finally

706
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: revealed the Liver King to the world, my god, it

707
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: was glorious and I want to roll a video for you,

708
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: you beautiful people. When you realize that people are suffering

709
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: and struggling and that there's a simple, elegant solution, a

710
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: return to ancestral living. That's really why my purpose is

711
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: now stop a hot job. There's this really simple way

712
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: of living. It's ancestral living. It's the way that we've

713
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: lived for millions of years. It's accessible, it's something you

714
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: can literally do right now today, and you can have

715
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: an impact in terms your life tomorrow. This is why

716
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: my life's work is my mission, it is my purpose.

717
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: It's putting back in what the modern world left up now.

718
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, but in the

719
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: ruins of go Begley Teppi, where some of the earliest

720
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: human civilization was found, the largest building in the center

721
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: of that town was a steroid factory. There's nothing more

722
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: ancestral than spending fifteen thousand dollars a month on a

723
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: mix of peptides and human growth hormone, just like our ancestors,

724
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Just like our ancestors. Did you know our ancestors looked

725
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: nothing like that, right. They were thin, and they were frail,

726
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: and they were sickly, and they were like lived to

727
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: twenty This is like, this is you don't want to

728
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: get what our ancestors have. You want what we have.

729
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Now you don't want what our ancestors have. It was bad,

730
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: it was bad. I don't know. I want that one

731
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: plant that the Romans had that like makes you not

732
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: able to make babies that they then fucked to death.

733
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a thing Romans had access to,

734
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: a perfect you'll know that. It's one of my favorite

735
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: son just ru in this one island and if you

736
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: eat it then you're not fertile temporarily. It was a

737
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: perfect contraceptive and they fucked it to death. Who amazing

738
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: shit this is. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's good stuff.

739
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a Finnel relative. Actually, um, don't quote

740
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: me on that one though. So I know a lot

741
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: of shit. I learned a lot of shit in medical school.

742
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I did not learn that. I did not learn that.

743
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: That video does feature a man who was very obviously

744
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: on a lot of steroids. Unlike a used car per

745
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: month of a nice used car berk, you can be

746
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: getting like a fucking Highlander with like eighty thousand miles

747
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: on it every month for that much steroids. Specific I

748
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: love that. I'm looking for a new pay anyway. Oh,

749
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: I love that, But it doesn't do much to lay

750
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: into the name liver King. Mostly At the start, Brian

751
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: was posting workout videos and his ancestral tenants, which he

752
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: claims are crucial lessons about health and wellness from ancient men.

753
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Most of them are like pretty reasonable, like it's good

754
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: to walk around barefoot in the grass, it's nice to

755
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: spend time with your family. There is a crazy one

756
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: about how um electromagnetic waves from your WiFi are going

757
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: to destroy you. We could get into that more. I

758
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: think he legitimately believes it, so we won't harp on

759
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: the matter. So, yeah, it's not fun. If he believes it,

760
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: it's not as much fun. Yeah, so um he started.

761
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: So it started out just kind of being like, yeah,

762
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: here's his workouts. Here's him talking about like, yeah, you

763
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: should spend time with your family, it's good to to

764
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: to exercise. But then none of that stuff goes super viral,

765
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: like he's not really making a big impact on social media,

766
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: and then he starts posting his meals, which inevitably included

767
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: weird things like raw testicles and ground up organs. Here's

768
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: the very first food TikTok he puts out, Oh yeah

769
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: for Tuesday dinner, we got ten ounces of fresh ground organs,

770
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: liberal heart, pancras playing, and some muscle meat. We've got

771
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: a couple ounces of some heart, some left over a beer,

772
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: comports sausage, and a couple houses of raw testicle that

773
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: consints when I'm having a dinner tonight. So I've I've

774
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: watched a lot of the liver King, and the argument

775
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: he will make is that if you're trying to support

776
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: your testicles, vegetables won't do it because vegetables are not

777
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: made of testicles. If you want to support your testicles,

778
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: you have to eat testicles. It's all the only thing

779
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: that will do. I mean, the math is pretty strong science.

780
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to deny. Yeah, so this stuff starts to

781
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: get traction. But you will notice that, like that video,

782
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: which is from September of twenty twenty one, that's weird,

783
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: but that's not an abnormal quantity of food, especially not

784
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: for a man of that size. That's a pretty normal

785
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: sized meal, right. The people at one ds knew right away. Look,

786
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: people like the raw organs, but just eating an amount

787
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: of raw organs that's vaguely reasonable, that's not going to

788
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: do it for us. So here's a video he posted

789
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: nine months later. The summer of twenty twenty two, primal

790
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: primal primals. What the day it has been? I can't

791
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: wait to share all about it. This maybe perhaps the

792
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: most important conversation that I ever have had. And it's

793
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: named not after a day of the week, but it's

794
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: something similar. But a king has got to eat. So

795
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: you already know we're gonna start with liver, with breakfast, lunch,

796
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: and dinner, because liver is king. We've got a couple

797
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: of pieces of bone marrow right here. We're gonna scoop

798
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: the puremeral right out of it. And look at these

799
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: dino shanks. I said, look, look at these dino shanks.

800
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: We got some bone marrow to brissoto at the bottom.

801
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: And why would you the vegetable when you could get

802
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: down and devour this testicle? And we've got some cards.

803
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: Why would you eat a vegetable when you could devour

804
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: these testicles? That's catchy? Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

805
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Is he doing this because he knows nobody wants to

806
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: eat balls and so they'll buy his pills? Or is like,

807
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: first off, they can be okay if you cook him right.

808
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: It could be a little bit like bacon. Rocky Mountains yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

809
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: but that said, yes, the idea is that they will

810
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: people will see his body and they'll see him eating

811
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: this raw meat, and they'll probably try it and then

812
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: be like, you know what sucks is eating huge quantities

813
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: of raw organs. We'll take your pill. I'll take these pills, right,

814
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: That is the business plan. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, And

815
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: people like share videos of him looking like a maniac

816
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: eating all of this stuff. And from this video things

817
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: start to get gradually more unhinged, which is probably this

818
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: video of the liver King. I don't need you know what.

819
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna describe it. Let's just play this

820
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker what liver King always earns what he eats. This

821
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: is called earning it. Wait should I explain? Let him

822
00:45:54,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: just take this one in right here, and this is

823
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: a prime testicle. Wait for nah, let go, Hey, everybody,

824
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Robert here speaking from a couple of months after this

825
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: was recorded in a live show. Obviously we didn't need

826
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: to describe this, but I feel the need to describe

827
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: the video to you listening at home. In the podcast version,

828
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: it is video of the liver King sitting in like

829
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: a pool tube type deal or a tire I think

830
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: it is, and he's pulling his truck towards him. I

831
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: think they've got it in neutrol. And he's got like

832
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: a big rope pulling it towards him, and hanging underneath

833
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: the truck is a set of what are technically truck nuts,

834
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: but they're just the actual severed testicles of like a

835
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: bowl or some other kind of large mammal. Now look

836
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: on my bingo, on my bingo card, I just want

837
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: to cross mix cove sad. Yeah again a couple of times,

838
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I just want to black it all out. Hold on

839
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: sec I'm just gonna draw the whole thing in. I'm

840
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: a fair man. That is legitimately funny. That's not a

841
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: bad bit. I'm sorry, it's not. It's gross, Yes, unsettling,

842
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: bad health advice, all of those things. Not a bad bit.

843
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Those are giant balls. They're very well, they're about normal.

844
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: What were they. I mean, just a couple of days ago,

845
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: we slaughtered a black ram over in my place and

846
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: it had testicles about that big. Yeah, they get huge.

847
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: So if you've got like a steer, or you've got

848
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: like a goat or a ram of any kind, all

849
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: they are is a testicle delivery machine. So the balls

850
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: are massive. You are a fascinating man like just you

851
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: just can't not notice it. They got huge. Even my

852
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: little sweet little baby pigmy or whatever miniature I don't

853
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: know what would go little bitty guy, I forget the

854
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: name of his species, but he has massive balls. He's

855
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: like the size of a small dog. But his testicles

856
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: are as big as a cat. Of cats, but a cat.

857
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: Goats were domesticated in Iran. My goats are angoras from Ankawa. Fantastically, sorry, yeah,

858
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: that's where the name Angora comes from. Is Ankawa is Iranian?

859
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: In the audience, he proved with that, so that was

860
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: a fun little derailment there. The liver king is almost

861
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: as obsessed with testicles as he is with liver and yeah,

862
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: actually I got to that about him fueling your balls,

863
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: nonsense or not. His following exploded the more gross, weird

864
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: raw organs he eats and the more off putting workouts

865
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: he filmed himself doing his TikTok goes from basically nothing

866
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: because he didn't have or yeah he didn't have one too,

867
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: about four million followers in less than a year. His

868
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: YouTube hits more than a quarter of a million subscribers,

869
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: which is you know, okay, he had like a million

870
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: and a half followers on Instagram and in no time

871
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: at all, he's a bona fide et celebrity. That's about

872
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: a combined sevenish million followers in the space of a year,

873
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: which is pretty rare, very rarely does somebody get that

874
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: big that quickly. He continued to involve the whole family

875
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: in his videos, calling his wife Liver Queen and naming

876
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: oh oh, oh, honey, You're gonna change your tune on

877
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: that one in a second, because he calls Rat and

878
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: Striker the Liver Boys. Not that's a lateral move from

879
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: their original names, I will say that. Unfortunately, he also

880
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: chose to have them style their hair like Hitler youth cadets,

881
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: and he put them in Oh I'm sorry, hold on,

882
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: hold on, oh good, oh good, oh good, we got

883
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: another one. I don't even know how to describe this

884
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: video to you. I'm just going to have them play it.

885
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Probably want to know if the little boys, Well, here's

886
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: your answer. Okay, hold on, hey everyone, Robert again, just

887
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna describe this video for you as well. We see

888
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: the Liver King and the Liver queen walking towards their

889
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: swimming pool in the heat of the day, where the

890
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: liver boys have like a table thing floating over the

891
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: pool filled with gigantic raw like probably twenty pounds worth

892
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: of raw organs, and they're in the swimming pool in

893
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: their swimming suits and nothing else, just like tearing into

894
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: it with their teeth. It's profoundly unsettling. Hold on, that's

895
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: gotta be child abuse legally, right, Like, thank you, deeply

896
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: unsettling child abuse. Yeah, we are so close that game bingo,

897
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: you can you can't. It's not good for you to

898
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: eat raw organs that are sin He is in a

899
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: swimming pool, it's got to be like a hundred and

900
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: tin right now. It's that's not hygienic. It is not okay.

901
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: And like the whole of this whole concept of like

902
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: how he speaks, it sounds like he's struggling when he

903
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: talks exhausting. Normally he's doing an Alex Jones and the

904
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: same way that Alex Jones is doing a rush limball.

905
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: It's actually kind of a there's a fascinating story there

906
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: and how all of these accents have descended from the limball.

907
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: That's like the original like right wing influencer, and they

908
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: all just kind of yeah, amazing stuff. So he starts

909
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: that video if you couldn't hear it, by promising to

910
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: provide proof that his boys eat like the Liver King.

911
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: But thanks to those leaked emails, we know that the

912
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: Liver King himself did not actually eat that way. As

913
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: part of the intake process with one of these consultants,

914
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: he gave his schedule in diet, and it is certainly

915
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: not like what most people eat as a diet, but

916
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 1: it's also not particularly weird. Nearly all of the food

917
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: he consumes comes in the form of protein shakes and yogurt,

918
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: with some eggs and reasonable portions of cooked red meat.

919
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: He does eat two to four ounces of raw liver

920
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: per day and a dose of raw bone marrow every day,

921
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: which is a little bit odd, but he claimed in

922
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: his interviews with these influencers that he was eating a

923
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: pound of raw liver every day, which is an amount

924
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: that would make you sick. That's too much vitam and

925
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: a it's bad for you. Do not eat a pound

926
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: of raw liver. Don't eat two to three ounces of

927
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: raw liver. Livers the lovely food to eat cooked. I

928
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: study liver. I love liver as an organ. I would

929
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: never eat anything close to that amount of love. That

930
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: is a shame, because I did bring a pound of

931
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: raw liver. So obviously the whole liver king persona is

932
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: a lie. Um eating the way that this guy pretended

933
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: he eats would if not kill you, seriously injure you.

934
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: In a very short period of time. His entire persona

935
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: was fake and a lot of people picked up on this,

936
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: and from the jump there were people in his comments

937
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: suggesting that he was obviously on gear right like he

938
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: is on a hell of a lot of steroids. Here's

939
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: just one video of him denying that he takes performance

940
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: enhancing drugs or peeds on the I'm So sorry Barstool

941
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: Sports podcast. Again, very sorry all these ridiculous accusations. People

942
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: say I take PDS, people say have ABM plants. Wait wait, wait,

943
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: wait wait wait, can we be honest like you you

944
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: definitely take pds. You know what, fuck I'm gonna be

945
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: off for the I'll here takes prioritize, execute every every

946
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: every fucking morning, every more. Buts I pray every day.

947
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: I love so we both take the whole world I'm

948
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: on windstraw. I don't know much a whole lot about that,

949
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: but people say the same thing, I got ABM plants

950
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: right or ab I got you can get plants. Looking

951
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: at ABM plants right now, they look they look pretty good.

952
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: I might have to get Wait. The third image result

953
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: on ABM plants is you wait, hold on, that's so

954
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: fucking good. It's so smart. What he did was he

955
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: was like, people say I did X, which is a

956
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: little bit weird, but and then they also say I

957
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: did why, which is super duper weird. Like that was

958
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: so smart for him to throw in ab implants, like

959
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: just to throw like everyone off the sense to be

960
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: like this is like, it's distracting. It throws people off

961
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: like the main trail. It's a he's a clever guy,

962
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: He's I mean, you don't. You don't get to where

963
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: the liver King got without having a little bit of cunning.

964
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: Fucking it took my title. Yeah, yeah, he sure did.

965
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: He earned it. He earned it. Look so um yeah,

966
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: that's that's that's pretty fun. Um. Now. One of the

967
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: first people to call him out in a major public

968
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: way was actually Joe Rogan. And look, normally, if we

969
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: are talking about health on this show and Joe Rogan

970
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: comes up. He is not a good guy, but in

971
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: this case, look, I will say one thing for the man.

972
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: He's an expert at knowing who's on steroids. If Joe

973
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: Rogan says a dude is on fucking gear, he's probably right.

974
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: I trust Rogan. I'm so sorry he is not in

975
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: the wrong. He called the Liver King out immediately, and

976
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: it's very funny because when you when you watch videos

977
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: of the Liver King responding to Joe Rogan saying he's

978
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: definitely I think Joe's exact words where he has an

979
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: ass full of steroids. When someone interviewed the Liver King

980
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: about it, his response was almost unrestrained glee. He didn't

981
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: care that Rogan said he was a fraud. What mattered

982
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: was that Joe had mentioned him. And that's sensible because right,

983
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: his entire business is I want to get in as

984
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: many people as possible, Right, I want everyone looking at

985
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: my ship and some number of them are going to

986
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: buy my weird organ supplements and that's what actually matters.

987
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: So through late twenty twenty two, the Liver King escalated

988
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: his stunts, traveling to a series of exotic locations to

989
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: hunt with native tribes. This is always what he calls.

990
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: This is if you want to appropriate some culture. The

991
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: liber King is the king of cultural I've never seen

992
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: it done this well, and by well, I mean very badly.

993
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: So he posts these little twenty minute YouTube videos and

994
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: I think he was hoping they were going to be

995
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: like a backdoor pilot to getting a TV show deal, right,

996
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: and he was going to go travel the world, eating

997
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: with native tribes, as he calls it. The problem is,

998
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the liver King actually knows how to hunt,

999
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: and all of these videos are supposed to be him

1000
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: hunting with people. Now I'm basing the fact that I

1001
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: don't think he knows on the hunt how to hunt.

1002
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: On the video Sacred Hunt, which the Liver King film

1003
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: on his own five hundred acre ranch in Texas. The

1004
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: video shows him hunting a deer with rad or striker,

1005
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: I forget which one. But the kind of hunting they're

1006
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: doing is the kind that you can do when you

1007
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: have five So if you have a bunch of land

1008
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: right in a large parts of the country, including Texas

1009
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: where he lives, whitetail deer in particular, overpopulated, and so

1010
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: you can kind of just hunt as many deer as

1011
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: you want on your own land. And one way that

1012
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: people particularly, I knew a lot of folks who were poor,

1013
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: but they had like family land or something, and a

1014
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: big way they would supplement their diet is by hunting deer.

1015
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 1: And you just like leave out some apples or something

1016
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: like that and you shoot him. It's not particularly sporting,

1017
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: but they are a species. We've killed their native predators

1018
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: and whatnot. You know, it's the thing that said it

1019
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: is not what most people would call hunting, right. Um,

1020
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: what he does is even less hunting than that, because

1021
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: he is on his own land and he has three

1022
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: guides who are there to help him find the deer

1023
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: and flush it out so he can shoot it at

1024
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: long range with a rifle. Now, look that's not really hunting,

1025
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: but okay, Um, to make things grosser, the guide that

1026
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: he hired is I actually don't know if the guide

1027
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: is an indigenous person. Um, they don't make that claim.

1028
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: I don't know much about this person. I wasn't able

1029
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: to find much, but I'm gonna play this clip. It

1030
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: is rough. This is this is bad. Hold on here,

1031
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: pissed would be like no. I mean, the one thing,

1032
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: if you're actually if you're hunting to the point where

1033
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: you have to like stalk an animal, you don't want

1034
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: to smell like stuff like for example, burning sage. Um.

1035
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I like that the dude looked like

1036
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: he was Middle Eastern, Like, I don't know, I'm not

1037
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: gonna make it clear, like Kadio is just like he's

1038
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: one of my people, just like out there just being like,

1039
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: here's some ful offel. He's making money. You're ready to go,

1040
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: and now go. Hi. The deer the way they hunt,

1041
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: they're just like walking through the woods. And then the

1042
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: guy stops him and he says, I'm going to send

1043
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: one of my guys to flush the deer out, and

1044
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: you shoot it when the deer runs out, and it's

1045
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: again not Look, that's a perfectly reasonable way to get meat.

1046
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily hunting. Grills would do better than that. Yeah,

1047
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: that's the bare minimum. I agree. So obviously this is

1048
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: all very very fun. Um. Now, it's also kind of

1049
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: worth noting that that guide you could see it in

1050
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: some of the clips, is a lot taller than him.

1051
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: The liver king usually doesn't let himself be filmed next

1052
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: to other men who are taller. But the truth is

1053
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: he's five foot seven, which is fine. But it's really

1054
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: funny that he's he puts. When you watch thirty hours

1055
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: of his videos like I have, there's like two or

1056
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: three times where he's next to a dude because he

1057
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want people to see that. This really highlights how

1058
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: much I worry about you sometimes that I'm gonna say.

1059
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna say. See, if you really want

1060
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: to be the liver king, then be a short liver king. Yeah,

1061
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: be a short king. There's nothing wrong with king, perfectly

1062
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: honorable short kings. Anyway, there's some out of you out there.

1063
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: I know it. So after this video, he goes all

1064
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: over Africa and South America to film himself watching other

1065
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: people hunt and then eating organ meat, often meat that

1066
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: like they don't have enough of because they're like, yeah,

1067
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's growdy. M In one interview with BuzzFeed,

1068
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: here's how he described the experience when you hang out

1069
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: with primitive culture tribes. That's his words. Look, that's his words.

1070
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: I know it's bad. Who don't know how to open

1071
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: a bottle of water or even know what a phone

1072
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: is you as I know, it's rough. You are seeing

1073
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: people laugh more than you ever have in your life.

1074
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: In the Amazon, my cameraman was hit with an arrow

1075
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: at his chest during a hunt. He wasn't injured, but

1076
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: you know how hard those hunters laughed. They laughed at everything.

1077
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: Everything's so hilarious to them. They were trying to kill you, Brian,

1078
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: because you're a dick. Also, they know how to open

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01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: bottles of water. And I'm gonna guess most of them

1080
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: have smartphones. I've been doing like every refugee camp I have,

1081
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: people have phones. It's not uncommon. We'll talk about that

1082
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: more in a little bit. Johnson remained evasive when asked

1083
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: how he was able to enter indigenous communities. It takes

1084
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: some finessing to let us come in, but you know

1085
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: how it is, so I don't Brian, Yeah, tell us. Well,

1086
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you so. This is all very racist.

1087
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: It's also untrue. All of the tribes that Liver King

1088
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: visited have access to water bottles and again, smartphones. BuzzFeed

1089
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: seemed to miss to fight at how he arranged these inbeds,

1090
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: but like thirty seconds of googling made it obvious it

1091
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: turns out that a lot of people who are members

1092
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: of like hunter gathered tribes and in these parts of

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: the world are desperately poor in modern terms, and you

1094
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: can sometimes pay money to go hunt with them because

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01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: they need money to survive, and so this is a

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01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: thing that you can just kind of buy your way

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: into doing. This is the case with the Hadza tribe

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: who he visited last year. I want to play you

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: a segment from that video. First, the Hudsa, the wild bushman.

1100
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: They don't cultivate anything. Oh yeah, so this is what

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: we're doing now because we are going to hang out

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: with the Hudsa. No, he does not wear shirts. He

1103
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: never had a shirt. Talk but does how many times

1104
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: he puts his hand on a fucking tree? There's like

1105
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: four in this video. You're gonna do it again in

1106
01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: just a second there, I guess pret So for several

1107
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: minutes Google that is rough. Several minutes Googling found two

1108
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: different companies that offer travel experiences with the Hadza, starting

1109
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: at two to three thousand dollars per person to go

1110
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: out and hunt with them, and again nothing again. Like again,

1111
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: They're trying to survive in a world that is incredibly difficult,

1112
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: and that has made their lives a lot harder, and

1113
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: is consistently encroaching on the land that they used to

1114
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: hunt on. That's polluting it, That's making it a lot

1115
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: harder for them to live the way that they used

1116
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: to live. You know, get what you can out of

1117
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: guys like the Liver King. I'm just trying to say,

1118
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: there's nothing mysterious about how he arranged these inbeds. This

1119
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: is a thing that tourists to actually all the time.

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01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: I found a twenty twenty account from a guy named

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: Max Waugh who paid for the same experience as the

1122
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: Liver King. Here's what he afterwards. In the moments following

1123
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: our departure from the Hadzabe camp in the sub and

1124
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: in the subsequent months and years, I've re examined our

1125
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: experience with the tribe and sometimes questioned what we saw,

1126
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: how much of it was a genuine experience, how much

1127
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: was staged. Before we left, they tried to sell us

1128
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: their bows, arrows and bead trinkets. Tempting, but I wasn't

1129
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: sure if we'd be able to get a bow and

1130
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: arrow set through customs. The next day, as we drove

1131
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: through a nearby town, we saw two of the boys

1132
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: walking around in T shirts. The day before, the men

1133
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: had all been decked out in ragged shorts and little else,

1134
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: maybe some beads and animal hides, but no shirts. Had

1135
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: they dressed down for our visit. Even today, I wonder

1136
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: if we were getting a genuine look at the hods

1137
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: Away of life, or if most traces of Western influence

1138
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: were carefully tucked away when Turrists were around and like, yeah, man,

1139
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: like that's why you paid three thousand dollars to hang

1140
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: out with them for a day. It's it's like it's

1141
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: a business. Yeah, they put on a show for you.

1142
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: That's what they're supposed to do. Yeah, that's that's how

1143
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: they're making a living right now. Yeah, And the liver

1144
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: King is pretending that like they're living the way, the

1145
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: ancestral way that he did. And one of the things

1146
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: you might notice is that because he goes and he

1147
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: hunts with them, and then they all eat organ meat together,

1148
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: and if the thing that he was doing work the

1149
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: way he says it is, there would not be a

1150
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: gigantic size discrepancy between all of them and him. You

1151
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: might notice none of them look like the liver King,

1152
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: because they do not have fifteen thousand dollars a month

1153
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: to spend shooting HGH into their assholes. They look healthy

1154
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: because they have like a normal diet they have. They

1155
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: look like people who eat like humans vegetables. Yeah no,

1156
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: they're not their body weight in human growth hormones. Yes

1157
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: so um yeah. Despite being clearly fraudulent, the Liver King's

1158
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: pr blitz worked. By some reports, his ancestral supplements business

1159
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: swored to nearly one hundred million dollars a year. He

1160
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: continued to escalate the weird stunts, doing stuff like showing

1161
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: up shirtless outside the queen's funeral to do bicep curls,

1162
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: which I actually I'm entirely supportive of that. Fat's based

1163
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: as hell. I'm just gonna say it. That's pretty rad.

1164
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: I got I got nothing against him for that one. Yeah,

1165
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: until in December of twenty twenty two, a bodybuilding influencer

1166
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: called more Plates More Dates published an expose on I

1167
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: fucking hate all these people. They're all the worst when

1168
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: you have to spend hours watching the because you have

1169
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: part of like a lot of the reporting on the

1170
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 1: Liver King was done by bodybuilding, and they're all they're

1171
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: all terrible, but some of them are honest, like the

1172
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: guy who exposed him as a guy who's like, yeah,

1173
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: if you want to be a professional bodybuilder, you have

1174
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: to do steroids. I'm just so worried about you for

1175
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: the amount of time you spent watching bodybuilding videos, Like, well,

1176
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: there's some part of me. Am I spending eleven thousand

1177
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: dollars a month on HGH now of course horse no. Um.

1178
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: So this guy more Plates More Dates publishes an expose

1179
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: on YouTube and Deceber twenty twenty two that reveals the

1180
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: King's steroid abuse. The liver King had sent him an

1181
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: email like, here's all off the steroids. I'm on what

1182
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: else should I be taking? And this guy, eventually, after

1183
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: months of the liver Kings saying I'm not on steroids

1184
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: at all, was like, well, this guy's a liar. I'm

1185
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: going to expose any other steroids. That is what he's doing.

1186
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: And it's it's actually if you watch the video, it's

1187
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: interesting because this guy is a steroid influencer, but he

1188
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: knows his shit, um, and he talks about like why

1189
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: he's doing what he's doing. It is kind I did

1190
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: find it kind of interesting. Um, but yeah, right, After

1191
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: this comes out, everybody's making fun of the liver King.

1192
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: He goes viral for being a gigantic fraud, and immediately thereafter,

1193
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: the liver King puts out a video confessing that he'd

1194
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: lied about taking peeds and he had a justification that

1195
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: I might call peculiar. Oh boy, y'all aren't ready for

1196
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: this shit trial. I'm making this video to apologize this

1197
01:06:54,320 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: guy because I'm embarrassing, ashamed because I lied and I

1198
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: misled a lot of people. I've stated that this is

1199
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: a complicated as fuck topic, at least to me. It

1200
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: is because before social media, I was rich and anonymous,

1201
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: and after social media I'm still rich, but no longer anonymous,

1202
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: and I never expected this kind of exposure in the

1203
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 1: public eye. It's been tricky as fuck to navigate. Well,

1204
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: clearly I did it wrong, and I'm here now to

1205
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: set the record straight. Yes I've done steroids, and yes

1206
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm on steroids monitored and managed by a trained hormone clinician.

1207
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: Liver King the public figure was an experiment to spread

1208
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: the message, to bring awareness to the four thousand people

1209
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: a day who killed themselves. That eighty thousand people a

1210
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: day that pride to kill themselves. Are people are hurting

1211
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: at record rates with depression, autoimmune anxiety, fertility, low ambition

1212
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: in life. Fuck you, man, so that's pretty right. Fuck

1213
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: you for bringing him into my life. That's why he's

1214
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: a bastard. The whole I had to spend fifteen thousand

1215
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: dollars a month on steroids because people are killing themselves.

1216
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: I had to teach you. He's Jesus hold on, would

1217
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: you call that persecution complex? Yeah? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

1218
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I do love his argument that like if only,

1219
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: if only all of those suicide victims were eating more

1220
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: raw organ meat, I was trying to save lives. I'm

1221
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: so upset. It's pretty offensive. Rights, that's pretty evil. Like

1222
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: that's actually the first thing he's done that's really upset me.

1223
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: Really really to build to it, but that's legitimately evil.

1224
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: Damn him. He's he's a pretty bad person. So this

1225
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: is why I've declared him a bastard. The other stuff

1226
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: is gross and weird and kind of funny, but the

1227
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: reality and obviously I don't I don't actually have like

1228
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: an issue with people using steroids. Again, I think that

1229
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: performance enhancing and drugs, drugs should be completely legal in

1230
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: sports because it's more fun to watch. Look, they're already

1231
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: mortgaging their bodies for money. It's already fucked up on

1232
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: an ethical level. Just not lying about it isn't any

1233
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: worse anyway, people checking my medical record right now. Yeah,

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: I know I don't agree with you above statements. I do,

1235
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: I do. I mean, look, there's two kinds of world

1236
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: class professional athletes. There's the ones who are on steroids

1237
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: and the ones who are on steroids. We don't know

1238
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: how to catch with your analysis tests yet Russians. Yeah, yeah,

1239
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, this is what's actually evil, right is the

1240
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: whole thing that he's trying to claim that like I

1241
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 1: am doing this because I think that the health advice

1242
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: I have will stop people from killing themselves, when as

1243
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about, the reality is he is

1244
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: contributing to the suicide epidemic and everything that he's doing.

1245
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: And this is where we have to get kind of

1246
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: serious for a minute, because suicidal ideation is hugely correlated

1247
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: with body dysmorphia disorder, something I've dealt with, something that

1248
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot of men and a lot of women deal with,

1249
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: the rate of completed suicide among sufferers of BDD is

1250
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: what one clinical journal that I read described as markedly high.

1251
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: And guess what. The percentage of American men dissatisfied with

1252
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: their own appearance has tripled in the last twenty five years.

1253
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: By some accounts, BDD is as common now among men

1254
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: as it is among women. One twenty twenty two studies

1255
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: show that fifty four percent of men in the United

1256
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: States have signs of BDD, compared with forty nine percent

1257
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: of women. The soaring rates of body dysmorphia disorder among

1258
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: young men have a body count, and it has a

1259
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: lot to do with why male suicide rates in the

1260
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: United States are at an all time high. The explosion

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: of BDD among men is not solely caused by the

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: fact that every single male movie, action star and influencer

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: seems to take steroids and spend millions on personal training

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: to look in humanly jacked, but it is not a

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: non factor in that it does play a part in

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01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: those deaths and in this problem. In twenty thirteen, one

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 1: expert estimated twenty percent of Hollywood leading men used peds

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Speaker 1: like the Liver King, and today the number is substantially higher.

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: Some male actors have spoken up about this Channing Tatum,

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: on an episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, rejected praise

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01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: for a topless picture of himself in The Magic Mic Movies,

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: saying the routine that had given them him that body

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: had been made possible because it was unhealthy. Zac Efron,

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: who got into movie star shaped for the twenty seventeen

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: Baywatch movie, has admitted the suffering from severe depression due

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: to body image issues afterwards. Those guys played their role

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01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: in the problem, too, but they've also clearly made an

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01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: effort to grapple with what is happening to them and

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: what happens to young men as a result of Hollywood's

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: relentless need to serve us male role models who are

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: not muscular in a way that human beings can become naturally.

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: The Liver King, knowing all of this, made inspiring a

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01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: generation of eating disorder victims his business, and so did

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: the sick fucks at the one DS Collective. Now, I

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: could go on a lot more of a rant here,

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: but this is a nice time night and we don't

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: need to do that. So instead, I'm going to close

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01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: from a clip from last year's Liver King Christmas video,

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: and I need to explain what's happening in this video

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01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: to you, because it's going to look like unhinged nonsense otherwise. So,

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: the liver King has a chef, and since he mostly

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 1: eats raw organs, I don't know how much chefing is involved,

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: but he does have a chef who seems to live

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: on his compound in Austin with him, and for the

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: holiday one year, this chef created a Christmas tree of

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: raw organ meats and other raw meats, which it's very

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: funny the whole like that it was set up that

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: he's going to have friends over. We're doing this dinner.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like heat the center of this Christmas tree

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: of raw organs and cook it for everybody. But it

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: becomes grosser and grosser over time, and without saying so,

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 1: they give up. And it makes like after the point

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01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: that we watch, you guys are going to see this

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: fucking thing, it disappears from the video and they just

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01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: pretend it was never there. He serves them a normal

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01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: meal and just watch and keep an eye on this

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: fucking chef's face to our Christmas tree. You want to

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: make sure not to overcrowd your Christmas tree whenever you're

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: putting on ornaments, so you want to kind of spread

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: these out evenly. Also use the ornaments as an opportunity

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: to hide any bought spots that may or may not

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:44,480
Speaker 1: be on your tree. Fucking back, Batman is dead inside.

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's the liver king. That's fucking horrible. Man so good,

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: it's so good, except for all of the bad stuff,

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Is he still like a finger? Yeah,

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: he's doing videos. I've watched his most. He's claiming now

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: that he's like two weeks clean from steroids, and it's

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: like posting his body. No, of course not, he's like

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: like it. But it also one of the things that's

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: really funny because he got exposed by like these grindset

1321
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: influencer bodybuilding YouTube channels, and they all were really critical

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: of him. But they all are critical him because they're like, well,

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: his message is really good, and it's like, well, no,

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: it's not. His message is nonsense. Yeah, his message is

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: like you should eat raw meat and work out five

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: hours a day, which is like not a thing that

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01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: people can do. So so I'm sorry, just what is

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: So his connection was to those pills he made clearly

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: that's where he makes his money. He makes his money. Yeah,

1330
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: like is he is he from from what we know?

1331
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: Like wealthy because of it? Yes, he's made a shitload

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: of money. This guy's made so much more money than

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: than I don't know, let's say any er doctor you'll

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 1: ever meet that's not saying much? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

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01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: ye Are there any year a doctor's in here? Good?

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: Because they suck? Fuck, I'm just kidding. I love you

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: our doctors, um, but it does frustrate me on such

1338
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: a deep level. Then like I could use this, we

1339
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: could listen, we could make a lot of money. We

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: just talk right now for real business, real quickly between

1341
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: my gi hypatology background, your understanding of how bastards work.

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: We can make a shit ton of money with some

1343
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: sort of supplement, like like it would be like a

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01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: ram dick or something. Yeah, we have to use some

1345
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: sort of thing that's like cheap because it gets thrown away,

1346
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: and we can just convince people to take horse piss

1347
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: horse piss. Horses are pissing all the time and nobody's

1348
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: monetizing that. Have you see how strong horses are? Do

1349
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: you want to run faster? Do you want horses run

1350
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: faster than you? I'm sorry, they do, but that power

1351
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: can be yours if you drink their piss fucking horsepiss, yeah,

1352
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: or gatorade. We'll just call gatorine or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: fuck it's beautiful. I'll go hunt with somebody and then

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01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: pretend that it's I killed the animal because I drank

1355
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: enough piss for great for for fun. Just before we

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: close up, if you like music, right, I like music?

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: You like music? No? No? Like? Uh? Like like Andrew

1358
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: Tate and uh and the Amazon guy. I've never understood

1359
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: the power of him, the Amazon guy Okay, got his

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: name briefly, Like you like? But you like different genres

1361
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: of music. If you were to make this like epic

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: into like a musical song, what kind of music would

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01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: it be? Would it be? Well, there's actually only one genre.

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: I think it's really music. It's Scott But thank you

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: fucking oh did I get you? Who wants it now? Anyone?

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01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: And when I threw that is everyone? Okay, Okay, thank you?

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 1: We got We got a couple of minutes left. We

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes left. And this is our

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: first live show since I don't know, a couple of

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01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: things went wrong since the start of twenty twenty when

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: I was last in here. M this is our first

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: live show in a while. We're not live in the

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01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: studio anymore, and so there's a couple of bits that

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: are beloved among the fans that we haven't gotten to

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01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: do for a while, but we have that opportunity. Could

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: somebody please bring their bagels up to here? Oh wow, yeah,

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: yes please? Oh thank you? Perfect. So, first off, we

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01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: have this is just one of my favorite machetes. It's

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,440
Speaker 1: a crk T machete. One of the best batoning machetes

1380
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: you're ever going to have. Really good for splitting wood,

1381
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: good for waving when you're drunk to not even that sharp,

1382
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: so it'll just make a rough gas really sure, come on, okay?

1383
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: And then this is my so I have a story

1384
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: with this knife. It's amazing. Look at that American flag

1385
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: fake Jim's perfect, perfect knife. So I got this. This

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: is a bud k original. Some of you know how

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: special that is. Original one a hero. I'm watching you, man,

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: I get block. I get packages from fans from time

1389
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: to time, and about a year ago, two years ago,

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: I got a package that was like thirty of the

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01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: worst knives you've ever seen. In your life and a

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: note where someone was like, hey, Robert, big fan of

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: the pod, liked you for years. My dad started to

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: lose his mind a couple of years ago, and I

1395
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: don't know why, but the thing he did was repeatedly

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: ordered knives from the bud k catalet. There was a

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: huge room full of these terrible knives when he died,

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01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: and we, you know, we sold the ones that we

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: could to help pay for the funeral. I have given

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01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: you all of the ones we couldn't sell. Now, my

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: favorite knife in this bunch is, you know, like a

1402
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: normal folding pocket knife. Everyone's familiar with the broad shape.

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: It's that, but it's a foot long and it weighs

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: four pounds and it is My friends and I we

1405
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: call it the big titted Angel knife because there's a

1406
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: drawing of an angel with very large breasts on it.

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01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: Now I would have taken it here, but it cannot

1408
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,520
Speaker 1: fly because you can't really close it. It is terribly dangerous.

1409
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: The blades are just swinging around. But this knife was

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01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: reasonably safe to fly with. So Covin, why don't you

1411
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: take the good machette and I'll take the too sharp

1412
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: for safety and America knife again, Bud k original everybody.

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: All right, covin, are you familiar with the rules. It's

1414
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: like normal tennis, which I don't know. All right, Love

1415
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: Serving zero? Wow? That was that one? Better than that?

1416
01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: All right? Hit mate? Okay, that's one though for me, terrible, terrible, unbelievable. Okay,

1417
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: that one did some damage. All right, all right, all right, okay,

1418
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: we'll get one more of these and then we won't

1419
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: do anymore because I don't want to cause too many

1420
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: problems for quick. If you fucking stab me with this knife,

1421
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so obsessed stab someone with a knife.

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01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: All right, Love Serving Knife, I got you right in

1423
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: the startup? Good yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right,

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 1: I think I won. All Right, let's all let's all

1425
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: get a round of applause for the cleanup crew. We'll

1426
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: try to deal with as much as this as possible.

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm so sorry. All right. Now, we've got

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: four minutes, so I think we have time to answer

1429
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: one or two questions. Oh, you want me to do

1430
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 1: my Boston accent? Could you put it in the form

1431
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: of a question? Though? What does my Boston accent sound like?

1432
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:21,440
Speaker 1: Is that the question? I heard well boy even reforced

1433
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: and nim. Sophie loves this accent. I send all of

1434
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: my work messages to her. Sophie. We're getting sued by

1435
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: the liver king. Wait wait, can you do did you

1436
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: ever watch the Leprechn when you were younger? Of course?

1437
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: Can you do? No? Please, that's cultural appropriation. I will

1438
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: not be a part of it, specifically Leprechn. What's up?

1439
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: Oh the child sex island? Can you really own blue aprons? Child? Second? Well,

1440
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: it's not even it's not even say it's it's for eating. Um, yeah, hunting,

1441
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: which is ethical. Um. I mean there are a couple

1442
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 1: of child sex islands. But you know, look, if you

1443
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: are hunting children for sport and you don't, it's again,

1444
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: it's nose to tail, right, Like that's the ethical thing

1445
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: to do. So you you want to get especially since

1446
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: as I understand that stem cells have medical properties and

1447
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: kids are full of stems. Seems mostly focused on how

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: different your crowd is than my crowd. Well, my crowd's

1449
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: really interested in good healthcare advice. Yeah, so what it's

1450
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it's blue apron. I don't know.

1451
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be deep out in the

1452
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: Pretty soon we're gonna find there's got There's got to

1453
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: be at least like one or two other Epstein islands

1454
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: out there. Oh my god, there's like a whole art

1455
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: Pedula archipelago. Every time I say Archipella, people yell all, yeah, yeah,

1456
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: right right, which you're all being pedants, but I think

1457
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: you're correct. Covin, Yeah, it's from Heroin mart So this

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01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: is it's a good hoodie. This is like a drug

1459
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: users collective somewhere in Canada. Um. And this was a

1460
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: part of a fundraiser, and I got it because I

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01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to wear in the TSA line. But

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01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: also I'm broadly supportive of the message after everything going

1463
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: on in Atlanta right now, in particular, um, speaking of

1464
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: which our own Garrison Davis has been on the ground,

1465
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: and it's pretty fucked up night in Atlanta. So if

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: you if you've got cash to burn their bail fund,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure is going to be looking for some of it. Um,

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Speaker 1: because all of those people are getting charged with domestic terrorism,

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Speaker 1: which is yeah, it's a real problem. It's ugly as shit. Um.

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Speaker 1: Nothing says terrorism like breaking a bank window. For those listening,

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Speaker 1: for those lists isis guys were shooting at me, thinking, boy,

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Speaker 1: this is almost as scary as seeing a bank window

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Speaker 1: get broken for those listening at home. His hoodie is

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01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: a bright yellow hoodie and there's a smiley face on it,

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Speaker 1: and that's there. That's all there is to it. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just in case an incredible bit um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one more question, but make it a really crude one.

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Speaker 1: We only have like thirty seconds. Oh boy, I'm more

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Speaker 1: worried about his heart. Although he does take in ac

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Speaker 1: so hopefully his liver is fine. That's probably good, right, No,

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Speaker 1: his liver is a fucking mess. Yea. His actual liver

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01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: is a fucking wreck. His kidneys too, are probably a wreck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cock is fine. Well no, I don't know about that. Cot.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's probably fine. Rad Johnson and Striker Johnson?

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01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: Which of those is sillier? Seriously? Which is a silly

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01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: sillier name? Striker? All right? You know what show a

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01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: hands everybody hands up? Is Rad the sillier name. I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of rads. I'm seeing a lot of rads.

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Speaker 1: Now let's see Striker. Oh the strikers have it. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Rad is a cool name. Rad is a good name

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Speaker 1: for a kid. Team Team Striker. Very proud of you

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Speaker 1: all for showing up. Team Rad. You gotta get out

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01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: the vote. You gotta register more people next time. All right,

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Speaker 1: this has more or less been a podcast. Um, thank

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Speaker 1: you all for showing up. And uh yeah, have a

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Speaker 1: have a have a liver king full night. Remember his teachings,

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: you know, eat eat, eat Christmas trees by organ meat,

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01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: take fifteen thousand dollars of steroids every month or hear

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Speaker 1: me out. Okay, eat mostly a plant based diet with

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Speaker 1: some meat and cheese and stuff to ornament it and

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Speaker 1: and enjoy your life. Comment I have a fucking machete.

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01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Who the fuck said that? Who booed me? You know,

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01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: I know it's the guy over there who had that? Guy?

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I fucking I got you. Like, I'm gonna say, thirty

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01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a month, that's a normal amount of steroids.

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01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: That's healthy. Yeah, that's healthy, right, that's what most doctors

1507
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: will advise. Uh no, I mean, I'm actually gonna guess

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Speaker 1: lads was in speaking of which Lance and I actually

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01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: have a lot in common. He's another plan. Oh boy. Um,

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Speaker 1: one of the things I always appreciated about Lance Armstrong

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Speaker 1: outside of the problematic aspects of his career, is that

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01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: he called my hometown a soulless pit, which is true,

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01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: not in an accurate way. And it's it's one of

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01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: those things. There's basically three famous people from Plano. Um

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: there's on the lower level me and then on the

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01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 1: higher level there's Lance Armstrong and Alan tutik Aka washed

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01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: from Firefly. Yeah, one of us was not a monster,

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01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: not a great record for Plano K nine from Rogue one.

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: That's fucking that's that's that's it. That's yeah, that's less

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01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: of a touchstone fire I assume he did other things

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01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Yeah, just those two. All right, well

1522
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: you got it. You can't stay here, but you gotta

1523
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: go home something like that. Um, thank you all for coming.

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01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: This has been a This has actually been a really

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01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: nice experience. UM. I have missed being able to do

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01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: the live show. So it's lovely that we got to

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01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: to all get back together. Um. And it's it's nice

1528
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: every time we hear that, like a show has you

1529
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: sold out? That always makes everybody feel better. It is

1530
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: kind of a weird job, like just reading about terrible

1531
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: people and then damaging someone's mental health over a zoom call.

1532
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: So getting to see that I'm also harming all of

1533
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: your health is what makes it all worthwhile. So please

1534
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: continue having whatever problem leads you to listen to this

1535
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: podcast every single week. But seriously, thank you all so much.

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01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: You've been a lovely audience. And yeah, all I can

1537
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: say is eat as much raw liver as humanly possible.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that. Kava and I are now going to

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01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: try to clean up some of the bagel shrapnels that

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01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: we cause as little of a problem as possible for

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01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the nice people at this at this theater. Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards is a production of Coolzone Media. For

1543
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: more from Coolzonemedia, visit our website coolzonemedia dot com, or

1544
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.