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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House top works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen, I'm Molly. Oh I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you in in a little secret. And I love secrets. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be a poor

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Speaker 1: reflection on my character or not, but I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest with you and all of our wonderful listeners

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Speaker 1: out there. I loved to gossip. Oh man, I used too.

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Speaker 1: I really loved a gossip. And um, you know, last

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Speaker 1: night was the House to works dot com holiday part

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Speaker 1: holiday party. Even though you might be listening to this

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Speaker 1: in January, I just all I wanted from the holiday party.

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Speaker 1: All I wanted was good gossip to come out of it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: dear listeners, because Molly left the party early, leaving me

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Speaker 1: the point about gossip though, Molly, it's secret. I can't

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Speaker 1: And that's the fun about gossip is no one else

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Speaker 1: is supposed to know. Here's some gossip, guys. Okay, Kristin

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Speaker 1: can't read, I know, I just Molly just draws me pictures,

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Speaker 1: a woman talking, and that's how she knows. It's the

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Speaker 1: Gossip Podcast. Yeah. Every now and then things kind of

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Speaker 1: get boring around here at how Stuffwork dot Com Surprise,

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Speaker 1: and we try to think up fake gossip to start.

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Speaker 1: We never actually do it, though, but I guess that's

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Speaker 1: a good time to kind of talk about what exactly

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about when we're talking about gossip? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Because I will say when I was reading the definition

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna start with the thing that was most

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Speaker 1: I don't know those people, even though I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's not something that people care about when it comes

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Speaker 1: because all these researchers have tried to pin down a definition.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hard. It's prizingly hard to define what

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna podcast about it. And when you gossip,

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Speaker 1: you're transmitting information as though it were fact, but it

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