Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2: This Meet Friday. It's a great Meat Friday. Morale is high.
Speaker 2: We got nominated for the Sports Emmy earlier in the
Speaker 2: week and then found out late yesterday that Brent Musburger
Speaker 2: is going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to Brent coming up here momentarily. It's a Masters
Speaker 2: Meet Friday. We got firecrackers, shrimp, Texas style chili, Cowboy ribs,
Speaker 2: blackened swordfish, and Azalea cocktails.
Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 2: No body second round at the Masters in Augusta is
Speaker 2: under way. Wind is going to be an issue, Paul.
Speaker 2: You got an update on the leader board.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Justin Row is just getting going. He's seven under
Speaker 4: Ludwig Oberg, five under Bryce and d Chambeau with early
Speaker 4: Birdie three under.
Speaker 5: Okay, check that, four under.
Speaker 2: Four under Now all right tonight, Bucks, Pistons, Cabs, Nicks, Rockets, Lakers, Grizzlies,
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets. And really know their headlines here? Nothing
Speaker 2: football wise. I think we've tried to make something out
Speaker 2: of the TJ. Watts situation. Does he want a new deal,
Speaker 2: which he probably does? Does he want to stay in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Guessing he still does big weekend for the NBA as
Speaker 2: we close out the regular season. We talked about this
Speaker 2: down through the years and using this platform, if I
Speaker 2: can get John Facenda, or at least help get John
Speaker 2: Facenda into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I've been
Speaker 2: very fortunate that been able to have people listen to
Speaker 2: us and that Pro Football Hall of Fame. I don't
Speaker 2: know if the voters or the people realize that John Facenda,
Speaker 2: the voice of the NFL, wasn't in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: And wrote a letter to the Hall of Fame David Baker,
Speaker 2: and David said, you're right, he should be in the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Felt that way about Brent
Speaker 2: Musburger for a long time and actually contacted the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. I said, what do I need
Speaker 2: to do? They said, put it in writing. I said,
Speaker 2: all right. So it was great, great day yesterday, Brent.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: It's the Pete Rosel Radio and TV Award. I don't
Speaker 2: take any credit other than letting people reminding people that
Speaker 2: you weren't in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. You
Speaker 2: did all the work. I just wanted people to remember
Speaker 2: all the great work you did. So congratulations, Dan, thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 5: I know that a couple of years ago we had
Speaker 5: a conversation out at the Super Bowl in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5: I think we were on the rooftop of the Fountain
Speaker 5: Blue Hotel and you mentioned it and I wasn't even
Speaker 5: on my mind, but you you actually put it forward.
Speaker 5: And then later I'm told as I was leaving, you
Speaker 5: had Jim Nance and Jim Nance also echoed what you
Speaker 5: had said. So I want to thank both of you.
Speaker 5: It was such an honor yesterday and you would have
Speaker 5: got a kick out of I was honestly just brushing
Speaker 5: my teeth and my phone rang and I looked down
Speaker 5: and I said NFL Hall of Fame and I said, well,
Speaker 5: I wonder what that. So I said hello, Brent, coach
Speaker 5: Vermeo and I said, yeah, Coach, I said, this is
Speaker 5: not your cell phone, this is a different phone. He said, congratulations,
Speaker 5: you're the winner of the Pete Rosell level. And it was,
Speaker 5: you know, mind blowing. I said, listen, Dan Patrick, Jim
Speaker 5: Nantz and you, coach, you're the ones who put this forward.
Speaker 5: And I owe you a debt of gratitude.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: It was great moments. I just wish Dan irv Cross, Phyllis, George, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: the Greek. I wish they were still with us to
Speaker 5: share in this because they meant so much to the
Speaker 5: NFL today and actually this art of my career. So again,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for your platform.
Speaker 2: Well, you gave me almost an opportunity to dream because
Speaker 2: when I watched you do your show when the NFL today,
Speaker 2: I remember watching and saying, I can do that. I'm
Speaker 2: not a play by play guy. I can do that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I'd ever get a chance to do that. But
Speaker 2: it's the first time in my broadcasting career, or like
Speaker 2: the beginning of it, that I had a direction and
Speaker 2: you gave me that direction. And you provided a soundtrack
Speaker 2: for people's lives for fifty years, and that's the staying
Speaker 2: power is remarkable. But I thank you because you made
Speaker 2: it look like you can do. You know, you and
Speaker 2: Costas Bryant Gumbel, guys who are really good. They make
Speaker 2: a hard job look easy. And that's why there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who want to do this job. And
Speaker 2: you did that. It's not easy, but you provided that soundtrack,
Speaker 2: and I'm forever grateful for that.
Speaker 5: I'm so appreciative to hear that. And so many youngsters
Speaker 5: through the years Dan have come up and said, you know,
Speaker 5: I really want to get into sportscasting. I love what
Speaker 5: you do, and I would spend some time and talk
Speaker 5: them through it. But I you know, you touch a
Speaker 5: lot of lives. And I was asked yesterday, anybody ever
Speaker 5: get upset with you? And I chuckled and I said,
Speaker 5: occasionally I would get a letter a little nasty from
Speaker 5: a preacher somewhere who said that I was spoiling church
Speaker 5: attendance on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Did you get any feedback, negative feedback when you were
Speaker 2: saying you were looking live.
Speaker 5: No, it's interesting. No, everybody sort of gravitated to it
Speaker 5: without knowing how it started. And it started because my director,
Speaker 5: Bob Fishman, who was a Hall of Fame director by
Speaker 5: the way, he at a meeting of the NFL today
Speaker 5: once earlier in the week, said that his father had
Speaker 5: a friend who loved bet over unders and we were
Speaker 5: coming into November and he wanted the weather at the
Speaker 5: Darius stadiums that we were going and we didn't have
Speaker 5: enough time. Remember the NFL today, it was a half
Speaker 5: hour show. Now those pregame shows go on for days.
Speaker 5: But so well, I said, we can't do a weather report.
Speaker 5: But I said, Bob, what if you give me a
Speaker 5: live picture? And we started. I think the first one,
Speaker 5: damn might have been Soldier Field in Chicago, because it
Speaker 5: was in November, and so we used you are looking
Speaker 5: live and it was kind of a drizzly, gloomy day
Speaker 5: at the lake Front of Chicago. And so the next
Speaker 5: week at the at the meeting, Bob said, hey, my
Speaker 5: father's front really loved that. He thought that was great.
Speaker 5: And so we went from there to two three different
Speaker 5: stadiums that we could flash around the country, and so
Speaker 5: it became the trademark. Honestly, the only thing I ever insisted,
Speaker 5: and Bob followed. I said it has to be live.
Speaker 5: I said, we can't tape stadium pictures and make this up.
Speaker 5: If I say you were looking live, let's do it.
Speaker 5: So so so it went from there, and but no,
Speaker 5: I never I never received. I don't remember Pete Roselle,
Speaker 5: who was a good front of the shows. He would
Speaker 5: come by, you know, two or three times a year
Speaker 5: when he wasn't on the road watching games. But I
Speaker 5: don't I don't remember Pete ever asking me specifically about
Speaker 5: about you are looking. I've just began the trademark of
Speaker 5: the show. That's how that's how we are.
Speaker 2: But you were kind of dancing around gambling without oh yes.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, And I don't remember now, remember now, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: we weren't dancing, okay, we were hugging. I mean, I
Speaker 5: mean when Bob Wessler called me before year two of
Speaker 5: the NFL Today and he said, Brent, do you know
Speaker 5: a gambler by the name of Jimmy the Greek? And
Speaker 5: and I did because I when I was covering baseball,
Speaker 5: it would stop off in Las Vegas, and I had
Speaker 5: met the Greek. I knew him. And he said, I
Speaker 5: want to put him on the NFL today to talk
Speaker 5: about the games. And I said, that's fine, but what
Speaker 5: are we going to do with Commissioner Roselle? And of
Speaker 5: course that led to the famous meeting that we had
Speaker 5: for about an hour down the Park Avenue NFL offices,
Speaker 5: and Roselle could not have been more favorable to what
Speaker 5: the Greek being on the show. And then when we
Speaker 5: got up to leave to go back the commissioners. Oh
Speaker 5: by the way, listen, guys, do me a favor. Now.
Speaker 5: When you were at a meeting with the commissioner and
Speaker 5: he says favor, we knew. Here came the marching order
Speaker 5: and he said, please don't use minus three plus seven
Speaker 5: minus ten on the segment. Yes, sir, yes, sir, you
Speaker 5: got it. Never even thought about it. Walk out and say,
Speaker 5: how are we going to talk about if we can't
Speaker 5: use the points spreads? Okay? So that led to the
Speaker 5: famous checkboard with the Greek and people would figure out
Speaker 5: if the checks were all on one team side, he
Speaker 5: mede cover the spread. So so we went from there.
Speaker 5: And the only time I got in trouble after the
Speaker 5: NF we were doing the NFC of CBS then was
Speaker 5: after the NFC championship game. The Greek would always slip
Speaker 5: me a piece of paper with the spread on the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and I would always give it, and I'd
Speaker 5: always get the phone call on Monday. Don't you ever
Speaker 5: do that again? Oh gee, I'm sorry, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Until the next year when you forgot again.
Speaker 5: Exactly. Yeah, you know, I always knew, honestly, if you
Speaker 5: go back to the founding of the National Football League.
Speaker 5: I mean there were people at Bulbokama, Art Rooney he
Speaker 5: gets his stake in the Pittsburgh Steelers by winning at
Speaker 5: the horse track, and even Peter Roselle. Every time I
Speaker 5: went to the Kentucky Derby, Pete Roselle was there, usually
Speaker 5: with Wellington Merraw, the owner of the Jiants. So I
Speaker 5: knew in the underground was just full of people who
Speaker 5: like to bet on the National Football Are you know?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm glad that it's now illegal. And obviously
Speaker 5: you have to be careful because a gambling addiction is
Speaker 5: like an alcohol addiction. You got to be careful. You
Speaker 5: got to watch people. And I try to tell you
Speaker 5: youngsters all the time, you're not going to beat it.
Speaker 5: I said, you may think you are, but you're not.
Speaker 5: I said, if you want to do it for recreation,
Speaker 5: as I do, I said, go ahead and enjoy it.
Speaker 2: If I would have told you nineteen seventy five, hey, Brent,
Speaker 2: you're going to be a Hall of Famer and gambling
Speaker 2: is going to be embraced by all sports, what would
Speaker 2: you have thought that we've gotten to this point that
Speaker 2: gambling is now commonplace. It's it's almost like you're guilted
Speaker 2: in if you don't gamble on things, I'm going to.
Speaker 5: Thought you crazy. Okay, let's tell you the truth. I uh,
Speaker 5: both instance. But I never got into this, you know,
Speaker 5: dreaming about Hall of Fames. I went to Canton early
Speaker 5: in the NFL career to shoot a segment for it,
Speaker 5: but I never dreamed about about going in a and
Speaker 5: the gambling. I guess I always thought it had a
Speaker 5: chance to be legal, but I didn't realize how sports
Speaker 5: were going to embrace it. And you're so right. I
Speaker 5: talk to people all the time. I mean, think about ESPN,
Speaker 5: which did not exist when the NFL today started. I mean,
Speaker 5: we didn't have cable television like we have. If you
Speaker 5: go up. I was watching last night, like a lot
Speaker 5: of people are watching. In the bottom line, you know,
Speaker 5: there were NBA spreads and over unders were coming under.
Speaker 5: And I always smile when I see it because I
Speaker 5: was so pro voting back in the seventies and now
Speaker 5: it's just part of the coach And I think, Dan,
Speaker 5: that's a good thing, because I think it'll just kind
Speaker 5: of be accepted and go on its own way down
Speaker 5: the road.
Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, I was wondering if you
Speaker 2: could get Joe Namath to introduce you at the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. I mean you were there when he made
Speaker 2: his big proclamation, Oh yeah, and then they were going
Speaker 2: to win Super Bowl three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. It was you know you were talking
Speaker 5: about stadiums. Yeah, and the old Orange Bowl. I think
Speaker 5: for me, the stadiums always stand out where I have
Speaker 5: memories of what happened there. Okay, and super Bowl three
Speaker 5: was was really something because earlier in that week we'd
Speaker 5: gone to Fort Lauderdale and the Bellman Solace that Joe
Speaker 5: Namath was out back and they were a handful of us.
Speaker 5: I was a writer then, and I also worked at BBM,
Speaker 5: the CBS radio station, and we went out back and
Speaker 5: there was Joe in a lounge chair the famous picture
Speaker 5: with you know, there was a lady behind him getting
Speaker 5: an autograph, and people came up and wished him good luck.
Speaker 5: And I tell people, it wasn't braggadocio. It wasn't. It
Speaker 5: wasn't like, oh, I guarant it was just kind of a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, and we're going to win the game.
Speaker 5: I guarantee it. And it was just kind of thrown
Speaker 5: out to tell you the truth. It did not become
Speaker 5: a big story until after the fact. Dave Anderson, great
Speaker 5: Columns of the New York Times, was with me at
Speaker 5: a country club that Joe spoke at, believe it or not,
Speaker 5: on Friday night. He was a guest of honor and
Speaker 5: he repeated it and it was Dave who And it
Speaker 5: was such a small story in the Times. And now
Speaker 5: it has become it has become bigger than life. But
Speaker 5: as for the game itself, Okay, I was upstairs, I
Speaker 5: had a prespass, but I was in the photographer's box.
Speaker 5: But guess who was next to me, Howard giving me the.
Speaker 3: Flay by plane of the I had.
Speaker 5: I was the one man audience for Howard Cosell at
Speaker 5: Super Bowl three. And of course he hated the NFC
Speaker 5: because the NFC would not lie, and he loved the AFL.
Speaker 5: That was that was his dream. So he was so
Speaker 5: proud of Joe. Willie name us. I'll tell you, you know,
Speaker 5: he called me mush. I was thinking, mush, I'll tell
Speaker 5: you he's the best.
Speaker 2: So but that's that's one of the iconic moments in
Speaker 2: NFL history. Like when you think about it, what it became,
Speaker 2: you know, then you had guys who started to guarantee things.
Speaker 2: Then it became almost, uh like commonplace where somebody was like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna win, do you guarantee it?
Speaker 3: I guarantee it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It was in the footsteps of Joe Willing.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, and I'll tell you Dan, that game to
Speaker 5: me meant more to the merger than anything. Now, Al
Speaker 5: Davis meant a lot to the mercer because he started
Speaker 5: signing quarterbacks who were in the NFL, and when the
Speaker 5: George Hallises of the world saw what it was going
Speaker 5: to cost them, they also made a move toward merging.
Speaker 5: But once Joe Namas you know, I mean remember now
Speaker 5: to Greek and Las Vegas made the Baltimore Colts an
Speaker 5: eighteen point favorite. Eighteen point favorite in that game. I mean,
Speaker 5: I let that sink in right now with everybody. Didn't
Speaker 5: you have you know, I did not bet the game,
Speaker 5: and I never I never. I don't think I always
Speaker 5: thought the Colts were going to win. Listen, I was
Speaker 5: a Bears guy, okay, I mean I covered him and
Speaker 5: knew the Hallas that I kind of looked down a
Speaker 5: little bit at the AFL. You know, I was kind
Speaker 5: of one of the establishment reporters back in the day,
Speaker 5: and so I really thought the Colts were going to win.
Speaker 5: I don't think I would have given eighteen points, but
Speaker 5: as it turns out, the better of the year would
Speaker 5: have been on Will Name and the Jets.
Speaker 2: My friend, congratulations again and good luck with Thank you
Speaker 2: vs in the sports betting network that you've been that
Speaker 2: you co founded there, but uh, long time coming. Glad
Speaker 2: to play any role in this, but once again, thank
Speaker 2: you for being a friend.
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, the Gators did well in your.
Speaker 2: Pool, Yes they did. You won the contest, you won
Speaker 2: the Brackett. Is that more important than going into the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame for me?
Speaker 5: Is? Whatever?
Speaker 3: Thank you Brown, Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Dad, Thanks thanks for all your help.
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. That's Brent Musburger and a co founder
Speaker 2: of Vson the Sports Betting Network. Uh, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 2: I love hearing the stories. Even if I've heard the stories,
Speaker 2: I still love hearing the stories because I hear his
Speaker 2: voice telling me the stories.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, take a break.
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Speaker 2: hear from Charles Barkley coming up as well, and an
Speaker 2: interesting comparison or contrast in greatest scores of all time
Speaker 2: and somehow Lebron, Alex Ovechkin and Barry bonds part of
Speaker 2: that conversation.
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Speaker 2: I was watching the TMT Show inside the NBA last
Speaker 2: night with Charles and Kenny and Shack, and of course
Speaker 2: Memphis was playing against the Timberwolves. The Timberwolves scored fifty
Speaker 2: two points in the third quarter they won one five.
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards went for forty four, including eighteen in the
Speaker 2: third quarter. So Minnesota moves into a three way tie
Speaker 2: with Memphis and Golden State for the sixth through eighth
Speaker 2: spots in the Western Conference. I mean, it's quite a race,
Speaker 2: though certainly in the West it feels like we know
Speaker 2: the teams that are going to be In the East.
Speaker 2: Now it's just a little bit of jockey for playoff seating.
Speaker 2: But part of the story was Charles and Shaq and
Speaker 2: Kenny were talking about John Moran's new celebration.
Speaker 8: Well he has a history that maybe, yeah, maybe just
Speaker 8: leave the celebrations with people might die Aloge you know
Speaker 8: what they're doing because you keep talking about another one
Speaker 8: person happy right now?
Speaker 5: Who's that?
Speaker 8: Taylor Jenkins ain't got to deal with this.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get another job. But he deserves to deal
Speaker 5: with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor Jenkins, the former coach of the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 2: How about Shack with the sound effects there, they were
Speaker 2: pretty good. It just seems like this is more important
Speaker 2: than the actual game and winning. For John Moran, Hey,
Speaker 2: I can't do the gun thing, so I got this.
Speaker 3: It's a grenade.
Speaker 2: And then un till he hears in the league office
Speaker 2: and they don't move on to something else, you know,
Speaker 2: But I you have a game where you go, Joe,
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be the star. Anthony Edwards gets forty four.
Speaker 2: That's that's really the most important part of all of this,
Speaker 2: not your celebration, his priorities, and now you know it's
Speaker 2: he's a victim, even though he created all of this,
Speaker 2: and now everybody's picking on him, you know, and that's
Speaker 2: unfortunate because he's got it reversed.
Speaker 3: He created it. All you got to do is just
Speaker 3: eat it.
Speaker 2: You got punished a couple of times here, and then
Speaker 2: just play great basketball. You're entertaining by the way you
Speaker 2: play basketball, not with some stupid celebration. Oh, you can't
Speaker 2: do the gun. Oh okay, I'm still going to do
Speaker 2: the gun. Oh I can't. Okay, I'm going to do
Speaker 2: a grenade. Okay, at some point, how about you just
Speaker 2: win some games? Okay, you get paid to win games.
Speaker 2: You're entertaining by the way you play. You don't need
Speaker 2: to add to them. There was another audio clip that
Speaker 2: I heard, and it was on ESPN the NHL inter
Speaker 2: mission report. So pk suban longtime hockey player and very
Speaker 2: good hockey player ESPN NHL analyst. He was talking about
Speaker 2: Alex Ovechkin's record, his scoring record being more impressive than
Speaker 2: Lebron's all time record in scoring and Barry Bond's home
Speaker 2: run records.
Speaker 9: The Ovechkin record for perspective, you like all the sports,
Speaker 9: you're a sports fan big time.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to rank that among all the
Speaker 2: other great achievements in the other sports?
Speaker 9: Jerry Rice touchdowns, touchdowns, you know, and listen, that's actually
Speaker 9: something a little bit more similar. I would say a
Speaker 9: wide receiver touchdowns would be more similar to a hockey
Speaker 9: players because you got a guy charging it. You've got
Speaker 9: to worry about defensive players taking.
Speaker 5: Your head off.
Speaker 9: You know Barry Bonds you spoke about, he doesn't have
Speaker 9: to worry about getting hit right, right. You know Lebron
Speaker 9: je doesn't have to worry about.
Speaker 5: Getting hit right. So it's different.
Speaker 9: And for me, this record has got to be the
Speaker 9: most difficult.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not Lebron's fault that it's on a collision sport.
Speaker 2: I think we all, the general consensus is the hardest
Speaker 2: thing to do in all.
Speaker 3: The sports is hit a baseball, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think you get too much argument there. And
Speaker 2: as far as Jerry Rice, somebody has to throw the
Speaker 2: ball to Jerry Rice, somebody has to throw it to him.
Speaker 2: He had two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Montana and
Speaker 2: Steve Young getting the football. Now what you do after that, yes,
Speaker 2: that's up to your god given ability. Your teammate's blocking
Speaker 2: for you. But instead of celebrating Ovechkin, then you have
Speaker 2: to bring down Barry Bonds or Lebron or other sports.
Speaker 2: It's just a great achievement. I mean, oh, by the way, Ovechkin.
Speaker 2: He had an assist last night. He is now one
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty eight behind Wayne Gretzky for the
Speaker 2: old time record in case, you know, we're keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on that as well. But it's a wonderful moment.
Speaker 2: It's a chance for a hockey to stand out, but
Speaker 2: you don't stand out but then diminishing, and you know,
Speaker 2: talking down about others. What Lebron did is incredible. And yes,
Speaker 2: the NBA, the physicality. Lebron might be playing thirty five
Speaker 2: minutes a game, Ovechkin is playing sixteen. Does that sound
Speaker 2: about right? Bonds might get one pitch in a game
Speaker 2: to hit one. He would have hit one hundred home
Speaker 2: runs if they pitched to him that one year when
Speaker 2: he hit seventy three, he would have hit one hundred.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that that's a great exaggerated there's
Speaker 2: no hyperbole. I truly thought that year he was so
Speaker 2: locked in he was going to hit whatever. If you
Speaker 2: threw it in his little bread box there, he was
Speaker 2: hitting it out. Now, scoring a goal is incredibly difficult.
Speaker 2: There's physicality involved in that. Then you got the guy
Speaker 2: who's right there in front of the net, and you
Speaker 2: got maybe a little small hole that you've got to
Speaker 2: find that where is that five hole, peanut butter, shehelf,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, But celebrate it unless you're saying, let
Speaker 2: me put this in perspective. Okay, I'll at least listen
Speaker 2: to that. But I mean, Lebron faces physicality every single
Speaker 2: night and he's playing thirty to thirty five minutes a night. Yes, Pauline,
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 4: Say it's interesting you could float these conversations and debates
Speaker 4: based off one or two words, like you're right about
Speaker 4: baseball being the hardest thing to do hit a pitch
Speaker 4: with movement at ninety five or one hundred and two.
Speaker 4: But you can make the case at playing the quarterback position,
Speaker 4: you have to drop back, look downfield, process information, all
Speaker 4: this while five or six or seven guys are trying
Speaker 4: to knock you senseless. You have to ignore the fact
Speaker 4: that you're about to be knock senseless. To me, that
Speaker 4: that's a different level of hard to do. But it's
Speaker 4: up there with baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, maybe we don't truly understand.
Speaker 2: I can look at hockey players as the best athletes
Speaker 2: because they have to do it with the stick on ice,
Speaker 2: on skates and you know, pucks are going ninety one
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour. I get that, and you're doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, the ice is a big part of that.
Speaker 2: But celebrate it instead of this is more impressive than Lebron.
Speaker 3: It's different. It's different from Barry Bonds.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Nobody's keeping the puck away from Ovechkin. They were keeping
Speaker 2: the baseball away from Barry Bonds. And he had one pitch,
Speaker 2: maybe two pitches, that was it. And Bonds, you know
Speaker 2: the number of times he's intentionally walked? How many times
Speaker 2: was he walked and then intentionally walked.
Speaker 4: Barry Bonds In the year he hit seventy three home runs,
Speaker 4: was walked regular walks one hundred and seventy seven times,
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy seven walks, seventy three homers. That's
Speaker 4: one third of his plate appearances ended up in a walk.
Speaker 3: Yes, he whoa yeah.
Speaker 5: Fat of the Day.
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Speaker 4: A little more. Bond's seventy three home run season might
Speaker 4: be his second most impressive at age thirty nine slash forty.
Speaker 4: It was two thousand and four, he hit forty five homers.
Speaker 4: He was walked two hundred and thirty two times, including
Speaker 4: intentional walks. I mean, come on, one out of every
Speaker 4: five at bats they removed his bat and that's double
Speaker 4: the most in Major League Baseball history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what if you could choose not to let
Speaker 2: Ovechkin have the puck, because that's what baseball did the bonds,
Speaker 2: they chose not to let him swing his bat, So
Speaker 2: that to me is underrated, truly remarkable. He would have
Speaker 2: hit one hundred home runs, but the same you know,
Speaker 2: Lebron with longevity and it just it should be celebrated
Speaker 2: staying healthy. And yes, Ovechkin breaks his leg earlier this season. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, gets forty goals.
Speaker 3: In a season.
Speaker 2: I mean, hockey players, they're nobody tougher and it's a
Speaker 2: demanding sport. But I don't know if you need to
Speaker 2: bring the other sports in to then showcase why this
Speaker 2: is amazing. It's amazing because he beat Dane Gretzky. You
Speaker 2: start there, the great one had this record. You start there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's kind of what we do though, right, It's
Speaker 10: like it's bring comparing different sports is not unlike comparing
Speaker 10: different eras in the same sport, right, because in a
Speaker 10: lot of almost every instance it's it's the sport's a
Speaker 10: completely different era to era, the way they play.
Speaker 2: It is it just the timing of this felt really
Speaker 2: rushed to then, instead of just celebrating it, it felt like,
Speaker 2: let's get Lebron in the conversation.
Speaker 3: And when p K was on.
Speaker 2: First take, he did that it was supposed to be
Speaker 2: a Bounovechkin immediately became about Lebron and that somehow it's
Speaker 2: a negative, and then that players don't fear Lebron, they
Speaker 2: fear Mike and Kobe, Like, what are we doing. That's
Speaker 2: not celebrating Ovechkin as much as it is. Let's denegrate
Speaker 2: Lebron because he's going to do that on Stephen A's show,
Speaker 2: and we know Steven A is not a fan of Lebron.
Speaker 3: But it's all difficult.
Speaker 2: It's it's like the last guy on the bench was
Speaker 2: incredible when he was in high school and probably in college.
Speaker 2: I mean, the degree of difficulty we can't even fathom it.
Speaker 2: You know, you look at these tapes of guys when
Speaker 2: they were in high school and you're like, go, we.
Speaker 3: I mean, Mac McClung. Go look at his high school tape.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's.
Speaker 2: One of those where you go, that guy's going to
Speaker 2: be a star. Well, he's a star in the dunk contest.
Speaker 2: He can't even get in the NBA. I was watching
Speaker 2: that Peyton Pritchard pickup game video. I'm going that guy's unstoppable.
Speaker 2: Now he's a role player with the Celtics. But it's
Speaker 2: just these guys are so great and then you get
Speaker 2: you know, greater, greater greatness, the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to denigrate any of those. And even
Speaker 2: when we compare generations, you know, I hate doing it.
Speaker 2: It's tricky when you do it. Ovechkin, it's remarkable, incredible
Speaker 2: and a feat that will probably never be challenged. But
Speaker 2: the same with Bonds, with what he did, and Lebron
Speaker 2: used to be a big deal. You got to thirty thousand,
Speaker 2: he said, forty thousand in counting. Yeah, PAULI one.
Speaker 4: Thing I didn't understand about hockey as a kid because
Speaker 4: I knew nothing about hockey. I'd watch Wayne Gretzky and
Speaker 4: I remember watching and asking someone who actually knew hockey,
Speaker 4: how come they do shifts of like ninety seconds.
Speaker 5: Or two minutes.
Speaker 4: Why don't you just keep Wayne Gretzy out there for
Speaker 4: the entire period? And they're like, you have no idea
Speaker 4: what to burn? A shift of hockey is you're playing
Speaker 4: your full energy for ninety seconds two minutes.
Speaker 5: And you have to switch out that way.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't understand it.
Speaker 5: If you don't, I didn't know hockey at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're out there, you give everything you can,
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you come out. But Lebron
Speaker 2: is out there for thirty five minutes.
Speaker 11: Yes, ton, In addition to the stamina hockey apparently being
Speaker 11: smashed into the boards and occasionally someone punching in the
Speaker 11: face too.
Speaker 3: There's your foot by the way, Okay, of it hurts,
Speaker 3: I think you. I saw that.
Speaker 2: Here's something that people didn't factor in with the Lukadancik
Speaker 2: trait the amount of revenue, the amount of money the
Speaker 2: Mavericks are going to lose, so they didn't want to
Speaker 2: pay him this money. And I saw this with Tim
Speaker 2: McMahon or the Mothership. He said that the Mavericks are
Speaker 2: expected to lose a crazy amount of money this year
Speaker 2: due to lost revenue, dwindling crowds, merchandise sales, sponsors. You're
Speaker 2: probably talking about one hundred million dollars, but just save
Speaker 2: money by not signing him.
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Tim's article he says, you know this nine figures, like,
Speaker 2: who's going to want a sponsor? Are you going to
Speaker 2: have season tickets? Are you going to go to the games?
Speaker 2: There's no energy, no buzz, But you're talking about one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars. You're going to lose and you don't
Speaker 2: have Luca. Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 4: What really hurts them is Luca would keep them relevant
Speaker 4: every year. You may not be in the NBA finals
Speaker 4: every year, but you're a relevant NBA franchise because you
Speaker 4: have a superstar. And there's what h eight superstars in
Speaker 4: the NBA ten twelve where you could call them superstars
Speaker 4: where people tune in and you had one, you stumbled
Speaker 4: into one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, well I'm trying to think how many.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have Lebron still musty TV, Luca is
Speaker 2: a joker?
Speaker 3: Is Steph is.
Speaker 2: Greek freak or yeah, Greek freak would be in there.
Speaker 2: Shay Gilgice is not mussy TV. But the team wins.
Speaker 2: There's a difference in that, you know, it's not a
Speaker 2: knock on him. He doesn't he doesn't do exciting things.
Speaker 2: He's just incredibly great. He's efficiently great. Who else would
Speaker 2: you put in there? Marv embiads no longer in the mix?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is Jalen Brunson must see TV in the playoffs? He
Speaker 2: wasn't last night against the Pistons matchup Cad Cunningham and
Speaker 2: coming out party there, Victor Wembenyama must see TV? Anybody
Speaker 2: else that we can throw in there. But the point
Speaker 2: is there aren't many of those guys who are must
Speaker 2: see TV. Durant's not anymore. Booker's not a must see TV.
Speaker 2: Like you'll go, oh, that guy's on, I'm gonna watch this.
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards getting there job was Zion was maybe there?
Speaker 2: But I mean Cooper Flag's going to be to at
Speaker 2: least start his career that people will tune in to see.
Speaker 3: Is he for real? How good is he going to be? Yes, tod,
Speaker 3: I'm just listening.
Speaker 11: Oh sometimes I lean over into the mic and a trick.
Speaker 11: You're into thing, have something to say?
Speaker 3: Okay, are you gonna make it through?
Speaker 11: Just fidgeting, My fidgeting made it look like I was
Speaker 11: about to lean in and say something.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm doing.
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, quickable result here if you want worst
Speaker 12: Tod injury, pickleball heel or whiffleball elbow. Okay, right now,
Speaker 12: seventy percent have whiffleball elbow. That's still just.
Speaker 5: Todd.
Speaker 2: We we have all that great food outside. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure do we need to fix a plate for you
Speaker 2: and bring it in to you.
Speaker 11: You'll be surprised how quickly I can look over to
Speaker 11: that setup over there. I'm not proud of that, but it's.
Speaker 2: How about we take a break. How about we take
Speaker 2: a break? Ready read, Ready, break.
Speaker 3: We're back after this.
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Speaker 3: What a great week, great week.
Speaker 2: Capped off by the Sports Emmy and Brent Musburger going
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. Thanks for your phone calls,
Speaker 2: your emails, your tweets, you're all around support. Make sure
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Speaker 2: everything on the site. Thanks for putting up with me.
Speaker 2: I've been battling this cough this cold sore throat for
Speaker 2: two weeks now and get a few days to rest,
Speaker 2: so that'll be good. Best week in sports? Who had
Speaker 2: the best week in sports? I mean, I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: me because of what I just said, the Sports Emmy
Speaker 2: and Brent Musburger, Todd, how about you? Who had the
Speaker 2: best week in sports?
Speaker 11: If you count Sunday? Last Sunday is the start of
Speaker 11: the week, I'm gonna give it to Ovechkin. Is this
Speaker 11: whole week to enjoy? Passing Wing Gretchky, Let's give it.
Speaker 3: Toby, Okay, Seaton, how about you?
Speaker 12: I was gonna say Ovechkin too. It's tough to not
Speaker 12: at such a massive moment.
Speaker 3: Yep, Marv three for three.
Speaker 5: I thought Ovechkin easily best week in sports?
Speaker 4: Okay, Paul, I'm going to bring it back to us
Speaker 4: the Sports nomination and Dan. In all seriousness, I think
Speaker 4: it's great what all of us did. But what you
Speaker 4: did for Brent Musburger, because I think people overlook people
Speaker 4: sometimes and I don't know why, and it was a
Speaker 4: wrong that needed to be righted, and you threw your
Speaker 4: weight behind it. I was so happy when you sent
Speaker 4: that text yesterday. I'm proud of you and things like that.
Speaker 4: People will never ever ever forget Brent and others.
Speaker 2: Oh once again, I couldn't have done it without the
Speaker 2: cooperation the Pro Football Hall of Fame, because I needed
Speaker 2: somebody who would listen to me. There's a wonderful woman there,
Speaker 2: pat Linda Smith, and she's put up with me for
Speaker 2: thirty five years and she listened, and I, you know,
Speaker 2: same thing happened with John Facenda. All I wanted was
Speaker 2: somebody just listen and then whatever happens after that. I
Speaker 2: just I wanted to have an opportunity, and I have
Speaker 2: a platform here and to be able to use the platform,
Speaker 2: and I promise I will continue to do that. Mel
Speaker 2: Kiper is next on the list to get into the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Peter King as well. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 2: he took the words out of my mouth. I was
Speaker 2: going to ask who next would you want to get
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame, El Kuiper, And you said
Speaker 2: Sonny Vacaro, And the basketball says absolutely, Bill Knight is in,
Speaker 2: but Sony Vacarl's not. That's a travesty. Well, I hope
Speaker 2: that Sonny Vcaro, who really created the Shoe Wars and
Speaker 2: he signed Michael Jordan and all these coaches, all of
Speaker 2: these coaches should be writing to the Basketball Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame and saying, put Sonny Vacer in there. All of
Speaker 2: you guys, get together and do that so we don't
Speaker 2: do this posthumously. And that's what I worried about with Brent.
Speaker 2: He's eighty five. I just didn't want that to be
Speaker 2: h We wish he could have been here. Let's not
Speaker 2: do that if we can do it. Final results of
Speaker 2: the poll question there Seaton o'cunter.
Speaker 12: Yeah, more impressive the Jordan flu game or the Fritzy
Speaker 12: Heel show right now, that's at fifty to fifty, which
Speaker 12: I think Todd should take as a major win.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Todd had a misapp yesterday during pickleball. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the remas is in jeopardy. I'm gonna we have
Speaker 2: two weeks before that's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Todd.
Speaker 11: The healing processes of working your fifties.
Speaker 2: I say, what you did, it's your heel, it's the
Speaker 2: healing process. Would you take drugs to play in the rematch?
Speaker 8: I take my.
Speaker 11: Pickup ball very seriously, so I would take so if
Speaker 11: I got some.
Speaker 2: Like Tora Doll like what NFL players take, and I
Speaker 2: shot you up with that.
Speaker 5: I would take.
Speaker 11: Stuff to give horses. I got to get back out there.
Speaker 5: Blood doping. What do you need me to do?
Speaker 3: All right? All right, well you'll take part. You have
Speaker 3: the dope already.
Speaker 11: You got to get one more.
Speaker 2: In Will in Nebraska, Will, thanks for holding Hey, Will,
Speaker 2: Dave and Buffalo. I think Will had been holding for
Speaker 2: over and now won't Hey Dave, Hey Dan.
Speaker 5: I was wondering if you think Steve Taskers should be
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: And you know I'm not involved in any of that.
Speaker 3: If he gets in as a special.
Speaker 2: Teams guy, great, I think that we've been more receptive
Speaker 2: with field goal kickers Hunter, you know, they go on
Speaker 2: the football field. Steve Tasker was wonderful. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get people in a world that I
Speaker 2: live in. I am not part of the Pro football voting.
Speaker 2: Baker and Bozeman, Hey Bake.
Speaker 13: Headed Danny Happy Friday real quick on this topic. There's
Speaker 13: a Major League Baseball player that to me is blasphemous
Speaker 13: that he's not in the Hall of Fame, and I
Speaker 13: he's a pitcher, and if you look at the statistics.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna give you the assassin and see if you
Speaker 13: and the boys can gets who it is. I know
Speaker 13: we're running out of time, but quickly so. Eighteen year career,
Speaker 13: he was a five time World Series champion with two
Speaker 13: different teams. He had a nearly twenty seven hundred strikeout
Speaker 13: was the Major League Baseball wins leader one season. But
Speaker 13: on the side, Young was a strikeout leader in three
Speaker 13: different seasons and was one of only twenty four pitchers
Speaker 13: in history to throw up perfect game.
Speaker 2: David Kohane Correct, Okay, Uh, once again, I'm about inclusion.
Speaker 2: It's up to the guys who crunched the numbers.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Coney was a great pitcher.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know he'll get in because he's supposed
Speaker 2: to get in, and the people vote on it. You know,
Speaker 2: we've entrusted them with this, you know, Great Honor Todd,
Speaker 2: would you learn today.
Speaker 11: At the Masters the golfers may think they're the stars,
Speaker 11: but it's actually Augusta.
Speaker 3: Same with the nickt it's the garden Seatan Rendall Chamblee
Speaker 3: hasn't pissed anybody off this week, not yet.
Speaker 1: Marvin Seaton sometimes gets out.
Speaker 3: Paul that was a great week Thank you Todd. What
Speaker 3: did I learn?
Speaker 11: Dude to that deep voice, gus in LA's friend calls
Speaker 11: him the Mexican Barry White.
Speaker 3: I'm a great weekend everybody. Thanks for joining us.