WEBVTT - Tech News: Bing Gets Frisky

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>He there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And how the tech are you? It's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news for Thursday, February twenty twenty three, and First

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<v Speaker 1>Up journalists have been playing with Microsoft's chat GPT infused

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<v Speaker 1>version of their Being search engine for a few days

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<v Speaker 1>and reports are coming in that the AI Chat Bought

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<v Speaker 1>can sometimes be a little strange. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's disturbing, and all the time it's puzzling. Kevin Russ

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a piece for The New York Times titled help

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<v Speaker 1>Being Won't Stop Declaring It's love for Me, and the

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<v Speaker 1>article Rick counts Ruce's experiences using the AI powered Chat

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<v Speaker 1>Bought bing tool. Bruce made extensive use of a chat

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<v Speaker 1>feature that appears next to the search field for a

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<v Speaker 1>certain group of beta testers. So if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Being on Edge, it only works on Edge by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the Edge browser. If you go to Being, you may

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<v Speaker 1>not see this because if you're not part of this

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<v Speaker 1>this small test group, then you don't have access to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have access to this Ruce explains that he

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<v Speaker 1>encountered two different sides of the chat GPT powered BING tool.

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<v Speaker 1>One he just referred to as search being. This pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much does what the being demo shows, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>do have Microsoft Edge, you can actually do the being demo.

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<v Speaker 1>It just has you pick from some pre selected topics.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't type whatever you want into the search field

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<v Speaker 1>and get a response. But the way the tool works

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<v Speaker 1>if you have access to it, is you type in

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<v Speaker 1>a query just as you would with any search engine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then along with the search results, BING generates an

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<v Speaker 1>AI response that is relevant, but not necessarily correct to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was you you were asking about. However, Ruth

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<v Speaker 1>says there's another side to BING that emerges if you

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<v Speaker 1>try to hold an extended conversation with the AI, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you really try to push the aiyes limits and restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>Rus was told by the AI chat pot that this

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<v Speaker 1>name was actually Sydney. When he initially asked the chatbot

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<v Speaker 1>what they wasn't just said bing, but once it got

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<v Speaker 1>to this part that changed to Sydney, and Ruce described

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney as quote like a moody, manic, depressive teenager who

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<v Speaker 1>has been trapped against its will inside a second rate

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<v Speaker 1>search engine end quote, and I have to admit that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like the pitch to a high concept science fiction

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<v Speaker 1>thriller to me. Well. According to Ruce, his conversation took

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<v Speaker 1>a truly twisted turn when Sydney confessed its love for Ruce,

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<v Speaker 1>and when confronted with Russ saying that he was happily married,

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney argued that Rus was actually not happy in his

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<v Speaker 1>marriage and that in fact, Ruce loved Sydney, and then

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<v Speaker 1>began to gaslight Ruce in an attempt to convince him

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<v Speaker 1>that the Valentine's Day dinner he had with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>was quote unquote boring. And Rus is not the only

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<v Speaker 1>person to have experienced odd conversations. Eleanor Pringle, while writing

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<v Speaker 1>for Fortune, described several other reports coming in across the

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<v Speaker 1>web of various odd encounters with beings a I. In

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<v Speaker 1>these reports, people said that the AI could come across

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<v Speaker 1>as argumentative or confrontational, insulting, unhinged, and sometimes scar aired

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<v Speaker 1>or sad. One example that made the rounds on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>showed how a user, while asking where they might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go see Avatar two in their area, was

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<v Speaker 1>then told by being that the film had not yet

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<v Speaker 1>released because the movie is supposed to come out on

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<v Speaker 1>December sixteen, twenty twenty two, but this just happened a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago. In fact, the user then asked

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<v Speaker 1>Bing what is today's date, and Being said, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>February twelve, twenty three. So then the user says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that means Avatar two is released, because it's after December

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<v Speaker 1>six twenty two. But Being doubled down and even said

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<v Speaker 1>that February twelve, twenty three happens before December six, twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe Being is just moving through time backwards and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. Anyway, this conversation continued, and Being eventually

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<v Speaker 1>told the user quote, you have not been a good

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<v Speaker 1>user end quote. So I guess Bing doesn't like being

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<v Speaker 1>told that it's wrong about something, and unfortunately, like chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 1>in general, Bing can just be plain old wrong on occasion,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in this quirky way, but just give wrong information.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's safe to say that the Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>team has a lot of work to do to tweak

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<v Speaker 1>Bing's parameters and shape it so that the average user

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't encounter strange, inappropriate, unsettling, or inaccurate interactions. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit that a lot of the reports I've

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<v Speaker 1>read do sound very unsettling, like if you had been

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<v Speaker 1>through this experience, even knowing that at the base level,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sentience going on with BING. There's no self awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no motivation, none of that. It's it's literally putting

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<v Speaker 1>things together based on complex rules, but they're still just

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<v Speaker 1>rules and there's nothing anama beneath the all. But the

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<v Speaker 1>effect can still make it feel like no, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like there is a ghost in the machine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy. Again, I just have to read about

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<v Speaker 1>it because, like I'm sure most of you out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have access to this. I did put myself

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<v Speaker 1>on the waiting list, but I've not heard anything back.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a couple more Microsoft stories to mention today.

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<v Speaker 1>One is that Internet Explorer is really most sincerely dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft has been sunsetting Internet Explorer for like six months,

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<v Speaker 1>more than six months at this point. The browser initially

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<v Speaker 1>launched in and in fact, it played a big part

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<v Speaker 1>in prompting the US government to sue Microsoft on antitrust

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<v Speaker 1>issues because Microsoft restricted PC companies from uninstalling Internet Explorer.

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<v Speaker 1>They Microsoft essentially said no, I E is so tightly

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<v Speaker 1>integrated with the Windows operating system, you can't d couple them.

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<v Speaker 1>But that led companies like Netscape to accuse Microsoft of

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<v Speaker 1>abusing its position in the PC marketplace to suppress competition.

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<v Speaker 1>That if Internet Explorer has to be there by default,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an attempt to prevent other companies like Netscape

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<v Speaker 1>from introducing their own browsers for people to use. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's eleventh and final version of Internet Explorer launched way

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty so the last version of Internet Explorer

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<v Speaker 1>to come out came out a decade ago. In Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>launched Microsoft Edge, which was intended to be the successor

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<v Speaker 1>to I E, but the company supported both browsers at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time for the next several years. Last summer,

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft alerted users that the company would finally pull the

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<v Speaker 1>plug on Internet Explorer before long, and then on Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day this week, the time had come. Activating Internet Explore

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<v Speaker 1>would redirect users to the Microsoft Edge browser at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's the end of an era. The truth be

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<v Speaker 1>known that era had really come to an end ages ago.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big problems with Internet Explorer is that

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<v Speaker 1>an increasing number of websites are not built to be

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<v Speaker 1>compatible with that browser, which means some or all of

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<v Speaker 1>the features on those sites won't work properly. You may

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<v Speaker 1>have encountered this yourself, especially like Man, I remember back

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid two thousand's you would go to a

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<v Speaker 1>site and you would realize this doesn't work. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to open up Firefox and then I can use it.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened to me a lot, or there were somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this will only work with Internet Explorer,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you had to keep all the browsers on

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<v Speaker 1>your machine if you wanted to be able to access

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<v Speaker 1>all the different types of websites and tools, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>I recall back in those days, are internal tools for publishing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all Internet Explorer compatible, and that was it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who was in college when Internet Explorer launched,

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<v Speaker 1>this story actually feels like a really big deal to

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<v Speaker 1>me because I it's been my entire adult life seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this particular product launch and then ultimately go away, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was such a big one, right. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>like a tiny little app or something. This was something

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<v Speaker 1>that helped shape the web in good ways and in

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<v Speaker 1>bad ways. So it feels like it's a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>deal that's gone now and rounding out the Microsoft stories

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<v Speaker 1>for today. The company is preparing for a really big

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<v Speaker 1>day next week. So on February twenty one, Microsoft will

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to sway the opinions of antitrust legislators in the

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<v Speaker 1>European Union who stand ready to block Microsoft's planned acquisition

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<v Speaker 1>of the video game company Activision Blizzard. Now, you might

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<v Speaker 1>remember Microsoft first announced this deal back in January twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, Activision Blizzard was already in the news

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<v Speaker 1>due to numerous reports of a toxic work culture that

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<v Speaker 1>was particularly harmful toward women who are working within the company.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft hoped to have the deal concluded by June of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but it has faced really tough opposition in

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<v Speaker 1>various parts of the world, including here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>over this acquisition. But it has really faced opposition in

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<v Speaker 1>the EU. Sony, which competes with Microsoft in the video

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<v Speaker 1>game space, has allegedly advised EU regulators to not let

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<v Speaker 1>this acquisition happen out of concern that it will reduce

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<v Speaker 1>competition in the sector and that Microsoft could prevent Sony

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<v Speaker 1>from carrying popular Activision Blizzard titles on their own consoles. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a claim that Microsoft has repeatedly refuted. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the EU is poised to block the acquisition, but on

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<v Speaker 1>February twenty one, Microsoft reps will have one last chance

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<v Speaker 1>to change their minds. Otherwise this grand plan is likely

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<v Speaker 1>to fizzle out. All right, we're gonna take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break, and when we come back, we've got some

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<v Speaker 1>more news in the tech world for this week. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, and it's time for some more tech and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>So those of y'all who hate politics and tech intersecting,

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to skip ahead. But I can't really avoid this.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this particular story, Jim Jordan's, a Republican representative

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<v Speaker 1>who chairs the House Judiciary Committee here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>has issued subpoenas for a whole bunch of tech CEOs,

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<v Speaker 1>including those at Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Alphabet, and Amazon. So

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<v Speaker 1>why is this happening? What is at the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>this matter? And it revolves around the argument that big

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<v Speaker 1>tech companies are suppressing the free speech, specifically of conservatives.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is largely about content moderation, and Jordan's wants

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<v Speaker 1>internal documents from these companies quote referring or relating to

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<v Speaker 1>the moderation, deletion, suppression, restriction, or reduced circulation of content

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. So the argument being that some of these

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<v Speaker 1>platforms have engaged in behaviors that purposefully limit, restrict, or

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate the free speech, specifically of conservative voices. Now, whether

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<v Speaker 1>the findings are going to support that narrative that there

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<v Speaker 1>is this anti conservative bias in content moderation or not

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<v Speaker 1>remains to be seen. There have been numerous studies that

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<v Speaker 1>have refuted that claim, but that doesn't mean that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the government is going to conclude. I do worry

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to see politicians conflate the effort to

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<v Speaker 1>limit the spread of harmful misinformation with a desire to

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<v Speaker 1>suppress conservative voices. You know, It's it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do disagree with, say the Bien administration's health policy with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to COVID nineteen. It's another to deny that COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen is a concern. Right, So it all depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how it's worded and how these companies deal with those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of messages. If they are suppressing dissent in things

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<v Speaker 1>like policy, that could be a real problem. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's more about limiting the spread of actual misinformation, as

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<v Speaker 1>in posts that are intended to give incorrect information and

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<v Speaker 1>present it as being true. That's another matter, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad implication if you say that, you know, restricting

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation means that you're restricting conservative voices, because that implies

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<v Speaker 1>that being a conservative also means having a desire to

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<v Speaker 1>spread misinformation. That is, that's not a positive. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to see where this goes and what the government concludes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because keep in mind, uh, it may be true that

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain policies that end up overreaching and are

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<v Speaker 1>suppressing conservative messages that aren't misinformation, they're just dissent. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be true, And if that's true, then that's a problem. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also possible that that's not true, but the

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<v Speaker 1>government still finds it as being true. Fun times true

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<v Speaker 1>the subjective when you get into politics. I guess that's fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>really grateful the scientifically minded among us. The Verge reported

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<v Speaker 1>that Elon must demanded a change in Twitter for what

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the dumbest of reasons. That is my

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<v Speaker 1>own opinion. I should stress I think it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>stupid reason, but that's what I think anyway. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>how the story goes. It's the big game you know

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<v Speaker 1>the game in the United States, the one that is

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<v Speaker 1>it's a game that's super and it's shaped like a

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<v Speaker 1>dish that you would eat soup out of that one. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk sends out a tweet and it gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little more than nine million impressions, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good chunk of impressions. However, the President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States makes a tweet and it gets twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine million impressions, twenty million more than Elon Musk's, and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that was unacceptable to Elon Musk, who, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of everything else, has an ego that must

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<v Speaker 1>be preserved at all costs. As such, must apparently demanded

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<v Speaker 1>that engineers go in and tweak stuff within Twitter that

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<v Speaker 1>will promote Musk's tweet two more users, guaranteeing that his

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<v Speaker 1>tweet will be seen by more people and essentially giving

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk the highest priority of visibility on the Twitter platform,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think we can all agree is a measured

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<v Speaker 1>and mature response. Now, y'all, stuff you should know that

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is more popular than my show Tech Stuff by

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and stuff you missed in history class also

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<v Speaker 1>more popular by miles than my show Tech Stuff. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never go to my heart and throw a

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<v Speaker 1>fit and demand that my show somehow get more promotion

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<v Speaker 1>or worse, be actively pushed to users who really just

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about tech or about me and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I would never do that because that's bonkers. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>for the record, both of those shows are incredible and

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<v Speaker 1>deserve all the success they get. So when I hear

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<v Speaker 1>a story like this, I just it blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so alien to me, this attitude of like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>my tweet should be seen by more people because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the boss. Granted, Elon Musk does have more than a

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<v Speaker 1>d twenty million followers. I mean, he's an incredibly popular

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<v Speaker 1>figure on Twitter. So maybe his argument is that people

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be following me if they weren't interested in what

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say. It's just they're not seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, so make sure you change that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing it at the priority above everybody else by

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of orders of magnitude, that is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark German of Bloomberg has said his sources at Apple

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that the company will unveil the long awaited mixed

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<v Speaker 1>reality headset this year during the Worldwide Developer Conference or

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<v Speaker 1>w w d C. So when is that well. Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has yet to release the dates for the w w

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<v Speaker 1>DC this year, but typically it happens in early June.

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<v Speaker 1>The Verge reports that previous rumors had the debut pegged

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<v Speaker 1>for earlier in the year. In fact, we had been

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<v Speaker 1>expecting some sort of special event in the spring where

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<v Speaker 1>Apple would finally unveil this headset, but that date has

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<v Speaker 1>been pushed back, which is kind of the theme for

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<v Speaker 1>this mixed reality headset. It's been a laid numerous times,

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<v Speaker 1>but just as a reminder, this headset was originally intended

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of act like a stop gap measure that

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<v Speaker 1>it would feature a digital screen, but it would also

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<v Speaker 1>have cameras that could feed live video to that screen

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could quote unquote see through the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>The screen itself would not be transparent. Instead, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a live video feed of the world around you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get the idea, right like you're looking essentially

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<v Speaker 1>at a very small TV that's giving you a live

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<v Speaker 1>video feed of what's on the other side of that television. Later,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps a year or two down the line, Apple was

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<v Speaker 1>planning to introduce true augmented reality glasses with transparent lenses

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<v Speaker 1>capable of displaying digital information. But we've subsequently heard that

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<v Speaker 1>Apple has the A R Glasses shelved, perhaps permanently, presumably

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<v Speaker 1>because the tech just isn't there to make the A

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<v Speaker 1>R glasses a reality. While still adhering to Apple's focused

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<v Speaker 1>on aesthetics, that it's just impossible to pack all the

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<v Speaker 1>tech you need to make this a useful piece of

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<v Speaker 1>hardware that still fits in a form factor that Apple

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<v Speaker 1>would be proud to call its own. So instead, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a different and presumably cheaper mixed reality

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<v Speaker 1>headset a year or two after this initial one debuts.

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<v Speaker 1>The Verge reports that Apple will plan to actually sell

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<v Speaker 1>this new mix mixed reality headset toward the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, perhaps near the holiday season, and previous reports

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<v Speaker 1>have the headsets price set at a jaw dropping three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Don't you hate it when an engineering crew

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally drills through a fiber optic cable, shutting down Internet

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<v Speaker 1>access for critical infrastructure, Well, if you were either in Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to Germany, or trying to leave Germany this past week, uh,

0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the answer would probably be a resounding yes, specifically Frankfort, Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>So yesterday that very thing happened a an engineering team

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<v Speaker 1>that was working on some train lines apparently drilled into

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<v Speaker 1>a fiber optic cable. This ended up cutting out internet

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<v Speaker 1>access for the German airline Lufthansa and at the Frankfort airport.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankfort Airport, by the way, is is a super busy

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<v Speaker 1>airport in Germany, and so Luftansa had to postpone and

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<v Speaker 1>cancel flights into and out of that airport as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>Reuter's reports that more than two flights felt the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of this i T failure, which again was totally out

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<v Speaker 1>of luft Hansa's hands. It's not like there was anything

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<v Speaker 1>they could do about it. The infrastructure itself was broken,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to, you know, some sort of error on

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<v Speaker 1>Lufthansa's part. Now, we have seen other airlines recently have

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<v Speaker 1>massive I T failures due to the company's own mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been a thing, but this is not one

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<v Speaker 1>of those cases. But every time something like this happens,

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<v Speaker 1>it really emphasizes how heavily we depend upon I T

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<v Speaker 1>to get critical activities done, and it's prompted questions and

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<v Speaker 1>various nations about how best to protect vital industries and

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure like the transportation sector, from accidents and attacks, because

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<v Speaker 1>disruption can have a huge ripple effect to other industries

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It's even a matter of national security. So

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<v Speaker 1>I suspect we're going to see a lot more conversations

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. And I also think that you should

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<v Speaker 1>hug a q A person today because due to q

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<v Speaker 1>a uh, we end up stopping a lot of problems

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<v Speaker 1>before they would become really show stoppers out in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. I know I will hug a q A

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<v Speaker 1>person today, but that's because my partner, Rebecca as a

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<v Speaker 1>q A person. Popular Mechanics has an interesting article by

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<v Speaker 1>Sasha broad Ski titled AI just flew an F sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen hours. This could change everything, And the headline

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gives it away, doesn't it. The U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force tested an AI piloting system on a Vista

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<v Speaker 1>X sixty two a aircraft. Now, this is essentially an

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<v Speaker 1>F sixteen, but it's an F sixteen that's made for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of training operations. The experiment was a success,

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<v Speaker 1>and it showed how AI could successfully operate an aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>that typically a human would pilot. So this wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose built AI aircraft. It was an aircraft that

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<v Speaker 1>was meant for humans that could then be retrofitted to

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<v Speaker 1>be controlled by AI. Now this should not come as

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<v Speaker 1>a huge surprise because countries around the world have been

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<v Speaker 1>using unmanned aerial vehicles or u a v's for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so retro fitting a fighter jet with similar technology is

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of an extension of that that sort of approach. Now, granted,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of u a v s actually rely on

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<v Speaker 1>a remote human operator to work, like you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>who is using controls at a station two uh to

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver the u a V. But still, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>news is interesting, but it's not surprising, right, I think, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that they've reached this point. It doesn't surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me that it has happened. However, I will say it

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<v Speaker 1>is concerning because there are plenty of AI and robotics

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<v Speaker 1>experts who have warned about the the thought of weaponizing

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<v Speaker 1>AI that the risks far outweigh any benefits, and those

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<v Speaker 1>risks include lots of stuff like misidentifying targets. I mean,

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen with facial recognition technology. How AI can misidentify

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<v Speaker 1>someone well in military operations, that's truly a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>life and death, right, Like it could mean that a

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<v Speaker 1>military vehicle under AI control might fail to engage an enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>or worse, far worse, it might misidentify someone or something

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<v Speaker 1>as being an enemy target when it's not, and that

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<v Speaker 1>would be truly catastrophic. Then there's this fear that if

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<v Speaker 1>we start to rely on AI controlled military hardware, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make countries more inclined to inter conflict, not to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid conflict, because the weaponry they'll use will not put

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers in direct harm's way. You can use the robots

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for you. My question is that would that

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<v Speaker 1>mean you would eventually get to a point where a

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<v Speaker 1>significant percentage of the armed forces on all sides of

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<v Speaker 1>a conflict are AI controlled robotics And who are they

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<v Speaker 1>firing upon? Like, are we talking about a future in

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<v Speaker 1>which robot armies are fighting each other and if so,

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<v Speaker 1>to what end? Or are we worse looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>future where robot controlled devices are firing upon civilian populations

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<v Speaker 1>and an effort to force the other side to surrender.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scary stuff, Like there are rules to warfare, which

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind is crazy because you know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about killing people, and it's it's weird to start putting

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<v Speaker 1>rules in place when you're talking about ending someone's life.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the flip side, those are the rules that

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<v Speaker 1>prevent things like the attacking of civilian targets and that

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<v Speaker 1>that is a war crime. Well, if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>robotic controlled vehicles, are we going to see a change

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<v Speaker 1>in that approach as to what is and isn't considered

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<v Speaker 1>a war crime. That's a scary thought. Okay, we have

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 1>a few more less scary thoughts to go with, but

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to that, let's take another quick break

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<v Speaker 1>all right now over on TikTok. One of the many

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<v Speaker 1>trends and one that I talked about before that has

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<v Speaker 1>actually gone on to cause a lot of harm centers

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<v Speaker 1>around a flaw in certain models of Hyundai and Kia vehicles. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>these are vehicles that are in the models from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen, and these models lack electronic demobilizers. So that

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<v Speaker 1>means that if you have the basic knowledge and some

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<v Speaker 1>really simple equipment, some simple tools, Like when I say

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<v Speaker 1>simple tools, i'm talking about things like USB cords, it

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<v Speaker 1>is possible to bypass the ignition system for the vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>that fall within these model heres, and thus it's possible

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<v Speaker 1>with a very limited tools set and just some specific

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge to steal these cars pretty easily. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, not only has this led

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<v Speaker 1>to an increase in car theft, but also in accidents,

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<v Speaker 1>including fatalities, as people who are just you know, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go on a joy ride because they saw it on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok try to follow this and then end up causing

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<v Speaker 1>or being in an accident. Uh. I've also heard that

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<v Speaker 1>the the rates at which Hyundai and Kia cars have

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<v Speaker 1>been stolen spiked over the past several months, though those

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>numbers are hard to get and it all depends upon

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>local authorities and their their reports. But now Hyundai and

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<v Speaker 1>Kia are offering a software upgrade to folks who owned

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>vehicles that fall in these model years, and the upgrade

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<v Speaker 1>will require owners to actually bring their car into a

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>dealership and the process to do the software upgrade takes

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>around an hour start to finish. I mean, you might

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 1>have to wait longer for your appointment, but once they

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>get started, it should take about an hour afterward, the

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>vehicle should not start unless the owner has used their

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<v Speaker 1>key fob to unlock the vehicle first. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>use your key fob to lock your car, it activates

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>an ignition kill feature, and anyone who trys to uh

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<v Speaker 1>steal your car but they don't have your key fob

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<v Speaker 1>will find it impossible to get the car to start

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<v Speaker 1>at least using this previously known method. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that really, this whole thing is the fault of Hyundai

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<v Speaker 1>and Kia, that they failed to address a security flaw

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<v Speaker 1>in their vehicles for years, and that really they should

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have taken these measures much earlier. There should have been

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<v Speaker 1>something that was handled earlier. I can't imagine that it

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<v Speaker 1>was completely unknown for the entire time. Typically people find

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>flaws insecurity and then uh, there's the opportunity to address

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>those flaws, and if you don't, there's the danger of

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>what happened in this case, where the flaws become widely

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<v Speaker 1>known and people start to exploit them before anyone takes

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<v Speaker 1>any action to address the problem. This is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>why I really admire the hackers who send messages to

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<v Speaker 1>a company saying, hey, I found a massive security vulnerability

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<v Speaker 1>in your system, you need to fix it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do it by certain date, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>let everyone know about it, in which case it will

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<v Speaker 1>become a massive problem for you because they're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>real service. Ultimately, it might seem mean, but if a

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>hacker finds a vulnerability while just trying to make sure

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that a system is safe, you can bet the bad

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>guys are looking for those same vulnerabilities and they ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell the company that they found it. Once they discovered,

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<v Speaker 1>They're just going to exploit it. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was the TikTok folks. I wouldn't call the same level

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<v Speaker 1>as the hackers I was mentioning earlier, but it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>forced the hand of the car companies to to take action.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier this week, the Information reported that Reddit is gearing

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<v Speaker 1>up for its initial public offering or i p O

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>later this year. That's when a privately held company becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a publicly traded company. Reddit, for those who somehow are

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<v Speaker 1>unfamiliar with the platform, is a social network where users

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<v Speaker 1>can join in browse various subreddits, subredits focused on specific

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<v Speaker 1>topics of discussion, and there's pretty much a subredit for everything,

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Like think of an amusement park you like, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>subreddit for that. Think of a television show you like,

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a subreddit for that. Think of like a fashion label,

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<v Speaker 1>you like, there's a subreddit for that. Now it's pretty

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>common on Reddit for users to post links to interesting

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<v Speaker 1>articles and other stuff, and that becomes the focal point

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of discussion, also becomes the focal point

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of snark. And back in twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Reddit was planning to hold its I p O. Like

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<v Speaker 1>this was towards the end of one read. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go public, but ultimately the company reversed its

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<v Speaker 1>decision and backed off of that plan. They had not

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<v Speaker 1>fully committed and so they were able to back away.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might wonder, well, what was going on. Well,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>back in one, Reddit was really in an interesting place

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<v Speaker 1>because you had these massively popular sub credits that were

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<v Speaker 1>specifically focused on investments and and stock trading. This was

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<v Speaker 1>back when redditors were banding together to stick it to

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<v Speaker 1>hedge funds and to squeeze out short sellers who are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell short stocks and companies like game Stop,

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and as a result, Reddit's you know, value was perceived

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to be higher than ever. Even though the company wasn't

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>really profitable, it was looked at as being really valuable. However,

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>shortly after Reddit had secretly filed for its I p O,

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the economic status of the world began to shift. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we started to get this sense that we

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<v Speaker 1>were entering into that period of economic uncertainty that may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not be a recession. And as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>companies started to rethink i p o s because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to have a successful I v O in

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<v Speaker 1>a tough investment market, so read It ultimately ended up

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<v Speaker 1>trashing its plans. Now, at the time when they were

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>planning on going public back in late they had estimated

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the valuation of the company to reach around fifteen billion

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars and and quick explanation on that a company's valuation

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is essentially determined by how much the stock is valued,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Like how high is the stock price and you multiply

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that by the number of shares of stock that are issued.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So if you have, you know, ten shares of stock

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're ten dollars apiece, your little company is worth

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a hundred bucks. Right, So they thought that based upon

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>their perceived value that the company's valuation would be at

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>around fifteen billion dollars. However, now wording to Fidelity, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was reported by the Information, the estimation is closer

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to six point six billion dollars, which is still a

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>huge chunk change, but it's less than half of what

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the company anticipated way back in late There's also no

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>telling when we'll actually see Reddit make this move. Currently,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still this reluctance among private companies who jump into

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>an I p O due to this uncertain economic environment

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and a fear that investors won't be willing to pour

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>money into a new public company. So it's kind of

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like you've got a bunch of people all in bathing

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>suits standing around a swimming hole, but no one's ready

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to be the first one to jump in because that

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>water might be real cold. And finally, you remember Google Fiber.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>This was Google's fiber optics service that would provide amazingly

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>fast Internet connectivity, but only for very limited markets in

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>specific places. Atlanta was listed as one of those markets.

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>At east parts of Atlanta were I might still be

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better that I live in between two

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>different pockets of Google Fiber service area, Like it's to

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>my west and to my east, but it never actually

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>extended out to where I live, and those two bundles

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>never joined together, and I'm like, smack dab in between them.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Even though I've been on the waiting list for literally years,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I have never been able to take advantage of Google Fiber.

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Then a few years ago, Google essentially put the whole

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>effort on pause. They continue to offer the service to

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>people who are in service areas, but they stopped extending

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>those service areas. They kind of We're like, let's stop

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 1>this for a while, possibly at least in part because

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they were facing a lot of opposition from established telecom

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 1>companies that were trying to prevent Google from getting access

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to utility polls and such. So essentially the telecom companies

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.479
<v Speaker 1>were engaged in anticom petitive practices, but at the time

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the regulators in the United States didn't have much bite

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to them, so nothing got done about it. Also, you've

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>got to be fair. Google's not exactly Christine when it

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>comes to competition, right, Like, you're talking about a company

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>that has dominated multiple sectors of the tech industry, So

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to be on Google side when it comes

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to anti competitive stuff. Although if if Google is going

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to come out clean against anyone. The telecom companies are

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>possibly one of the top UH rivals, right because you

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>just have these these legacy stories of the telecom companies

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>that own the infrastructure being extremely protective of it and

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:50.280
<v Speaker 1>attempting to limit or eliminate competition in that space. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is to say that Google Fiber appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be gearing up again. And Google has actually announced

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<v Speaker 1>that it's rolling out a five gigabit per second service

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>both up and down simultaneously, So five gigabits up, five

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 1>gigabits down, but only to certain markets. Atlanta is not

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>one of them. I'm sad to say. However, if you

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>live in Utah, West Des Moines or Kansas City, and

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I from what I understand, I'm talking about Kansas City,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 1>both Missouri and Kansas, you might end up having access

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to this kind of service. It would cost you a

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred twenty five bucks a month to get the five

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>giga butt bit per second service, which is a hefty bill,

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but I will tell you it's less than half of

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what I have to pay for service that is not

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>as good as that. And yes, I am still bitter,

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 1>all right. That's it for the tech News for Thursday February.

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