Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here
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Speaker 2: And it is Tuesday here on this show. And you
Speaker 2: know what that means.
Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. It's the big day. It is AW Dynamite
Speaker 1: versus NXT Tonight. I may be gone tomorrow, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I won't go it.
Speaker 1: It actually won't matter because I don't think the ratings
Speaker 1: will come out. So after tomorrow's show's over, somebody should
Speaker 1: skip Thursday. But madness has already broken out all over
Speaker 1: the world of wrestling, and we'll continue throughout today, we'll
Speaker 1: continue tonight, it will continue tomorrow and probably the next
Speaker 1: day and Thenefully by the weekend we can all live
Speaker 1: normal lives again. But yes, n XT and Dynamite head
Speaker 1: to head tonight will tell you everything. As of right now,
Speaker 1: there's probably more to come, but we've got lineups, we've
Speaker 1: got bonus time, we've got no commercials, we've got people
Speaker 1: calling each other bad names. We've actually dropped to that
Speaker 1: level at this point. So we'll talk about that here today.
Speaker 1: And we've also got some ratings notes from the last
Speaker 1: week and some new Japan and Start notes, and as always,
Speaker 1: we will have the world famous Raw report the WWE
Speaker 1: fast Lane pay per views this weekend and the show
Speaker 1: went off the air with really a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: and so now we have some answers. We know the
Speaker 1: next WWE World Heavyweight Title match. It is seth Rawlins
Speaker 1: and Drew McIntyre and it is taking place in Saudi
Speaker 1: Arabia Crown Jewel on November fourth. What a way to
Speaker 1: celebrate Ranny's birthday that will be because that is her birthday.
Speaker 1: And speaking of birthday, as it is Tony Kahan's birthday
Speaker 1: today and also our own Big Vinnie v it is
Speaker 1: his birthday today as well, So we will not be
Speaker 1: celebrating that tonight because it's me and Dave tonight Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer Radio talking about these shows and the.
Speaker 2: Arrest of them.
Speaker 1: The normal Brilly and Vinnie show will be Wednesday, but anyway,
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about it back in the month
Speaker 1: with more Observer Live.
Speaker 2: Again the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Elber is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber BB
Speaker 1: also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Tonight, NXT and Dynamite head
Speaker 1: to head. This will be the first time they've been
Speaker 1: head to head since October eighteen, twenty twenty two, so
Speaker 1: basically exactly fifty.
Speaker 2: One weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And at that time, Dynamite did seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: two thousand viewers in a point two six and XT
Speaker 1: did six seventy six and a point one point eight.
Speaker 1: So this will be the next round of this, and
Speaker 1: both sides, both sides. It's not even like I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm used to stupid stuff on my Twitter,
Speaker 1: but uh, there's a guy today let me read this
Speaker 1: because it was so it was so stupid I actually
Speaker 1: acknowledged it.
Speaker 2: This guy here goes.
Speaker 1: It's about TV rights, not beating the Bingo Hall fiasco.
Speaker 1: But okay, this was J Dog, Yeah, J Dog. I
Speaker 1: wish Jaye Dogg would call in so I could ask him,
Speaker 1: if it's just about TV rights, why isn't Johnson on
Speaker 1: the show every week, Why isn't the Undertaker on the
Speaker 1: show every week? Why are they all on the show
Speaker 1: this particular week. Obviously, the whole idea of having main
Speaker 1: roster people on NXT is to build up the number
Speaker 1: for the TV rights deals which are coming to But
Speaker 1: you don't see what's happening today, brother, you don't see
Speaker 1: what's going on. Don't have to explain to you. I'd
Speaker 1: be happy to J Doug. Well, you see J Doug.
Speaker 1: Today these two shows are going head to head and
Speaker 1: NXT has announced that. And they started this. They first
Speaker 1: announced that the first thirty minutes of the show would
Speaker 1: go commercial free, and then AW announced their first thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of the show are going to go commercial free.
Speaker 1: NXT of course always has an overrun, but today they
Speaker 1: have and this is not actually unlimited, but an unlimited overrun.
Speaker 1: They can go much further if they want to. And
Speaker 1: then of course AW announced, well, we're also gonna have
Speaker 1: an overrun, and so now they both have a commercial
Speaker 1: free thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: They both have an overrun.
Speaker 1: Then AB announces we're gonna have a buy in thirty
Speaker 1: minutes before the show on Acts and what else, Facebook, YouTube, whatever,
Speaker 1: They've got a buy in where Eddie Kingston will defend
Speaker 1: these Strong open Weight and the Ring of Honor World
Speaker 1: titles against Minoru Suzuki. Then we'll have the actual shows
Speaker 1: where Dynamite has Adam Copeland in his AE w Rustling debut.
Speaker 1: He will face the Giant Lucasaurus. Christian Cage will explain
Speaker 1: his recent actions towards Adam Copeland. So that's two Adam
Speaker 1: Copeland segments. We've got a Number one Contenders match Brian
Speaker 1: Danilson versus Wertz Strickland. The winner gets Christian coming up here.
Speaker 1: On Saturday's Collision, Sorea defends the AW World title against
Speaker 1: the Karashida. We have Ray Phoenix maybe defending the AW
Speaker 1: International title against John Moxley, but I still don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on there. We've got Jay White versus Hangman Page.
Speaker 1: We have got Chris Jericho versus Powerhouse Hobbs. We have
Speaker 1: an appearance by MJF and we have Timeless Tony Storm
Speaker 1: is ready for her close up. That is the Dynamite Show,
Speaker 1: and then on NXT we have got bron Breaker versus
Speaker 1: Carmelo Hayes with Paul Hayman and John Cena. You can
Speaker 1: see him tonight if you watch NXT, We've got the
Speaker 1: great Osca wrestling, Roxanne Perez. We have Butch Ridge Holland
Speaker 1: and Tyler Bate versus Gallas. Cody Rhodes fresh off thank
Speaker 1: God not break his neck in the main event of
Speaker 1: Raw last night, he has got an announcement. And then
Speaker 1: of course we have appearances by both Becky Lynch and yes,
Speaker 1: the man who does not even appear on Raw or
Speaker 1: SmackDown straight from the morgue, the Undertaker. The Undertaker is
Speaker 1: going to be on the show. Now then gets even better.
Speaker 1: Tony Kahn today on social media delivered a message to
Speaker 1: Triple H and Sean Michaels. Yes, He essentially tweeted, I
Speaker 1: guess wwet's that Undertaker and like whoever could be appearing,
Speaker 1: and then Khan posted a message calling Leveck and Michaels
Speaker 1: bald a holes.
Speaker 3: Curby your enthusiastism, oh man.
Speaker 1: That is what this has now come to. He tweeted
Speaker 1: to call them bald a holes.
Speaker 3: After following up a tweet that somebody had sent him
Speaker 3: about Vince McMahon about something that Vince had done, and
Speaker 3: Tony responded, I will find the exact tweet to get
Speaker 3: it correct, but basically intimated that Vince is guilty of
Speaker 3: a lot more sins than whatever this person talked about
Speaker 3: in the tweet here. But look, somebody look, Dagan asked.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I'm glad some finds is so humorous. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do. I'll tell you why. I have no money
Speaker 3: invested in this. I'm not employed by either one of
Speaker 3: the companies. I'm a fan watching at home tonight as
Speaker 3: these two behemoths of the wrestling business put on their
Speaker 3: shows and throw everything they can at the wall for
Speaker 3: one night on a random Tuesday in October while there's
Speaker 3: baseball on. I'm greatly entertained. This has gone from the
Speaker 3: point of being a little ridiculous to completely being sublime
Speaker 3: for me, with the way they're trying to one up
Speaker 3: each other and then Tony throwing in the one thing
Speaker 3: that they can't do over with the USA, Although who knows,
Speaker 3: we'll see. Maybe they'll have a half hour pre show.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll start at seven point fifty seven like they
Speaker 3: used to do with Raw back in the day with Nitro.
Speaker 3: Who knows. I don't care whatever, it doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be greatly entertained because of the discourse that's
Speaker 3: going on look to act, for them to act like promoters,
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all. And this is if Tony
Speaker 3: was doing something completely out of character, I guess you
Speaker 3: could kind of hold his feet to the fire. But
Speaker 3: when Dana White or Vince McMahon or paula Vec or
Speaker 3: Tony Kahan or Bob Aeron or Don King or whoever
Speaker 3: act like who they are when they're promoters, I'm greatly entertain.
Speaker 3: I don't expect them to be any other way. If
Speaker 3: sha started this way, then I would have a concern.
Speaker 3: But Tony doing this on his birthday? Are you kidding
Speaker 3: me a field day with this?
Speaker 1: Well he is, But Lenny here goes. Wait, it's fine
Speaker 1: when Triple H called them a pissant T shirt company,
Speaker 1: but bald a.
Speaker 2: Hole is over the line.
Speaker 1: Well company, you can you guys in the hold on
Speaker 1: a second. These guys can say whatever they want. But
Speaker 1: as we all know from the internet, which sucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we can all admit that when we finally
Speaker 1: start resorting to personal attacks, if nothing else you come
Speaker 1: across like you're gotten to so bro, there's a million things.
Speaker 1: There's a million things that you can say back and forth,
Speaker 1: but we've actually dropped to bald a Holes.
Speaker 3: It's a reference whatever it's.
Speaker 1: I know it is, But okay, he just took a
Speaker 1: random reference. He could have Gilligan's Island, but he just happened.
Speaker 1: He was calling them bald a holes. Come on, what
Speaker 1: do you want him to say?
Speaker 3: Brian? What do you want You don't have to say anything.
Speaker 1: Just book the best show and try and win tonight.
Speaker 1: That's what the other side should be doing too.
Speaker 3: And that's what they're doing. This is just a spectacle.
Speaker 1: Let it be a spectacle for Oh, it's a spectacle now, it's.
Speaker 3: An absolute it is. It's completely ridiculous and who knows.
Speaker 3: Look NXT with that unlimited time, it's probably going to
Speaker 3: be one minute past wherever aew does. But look at that.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine them pushing until eleven thirty or ten
Speaker 3: thirty at night with an NXT show again on a
Speaker 3: random Tuesday in October. Again, it's ridiculous. Let them be ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Get it out of their systems.
Speaker 1: Come on, get it out of their systems. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you what's not gonna happen, Mike. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: get it out of their systems.
Speaker 3: They will for a couple of days. Hold on the
Speaker 3: next time, No.
Speaker 2: Hold on a second.
Speaker 1: You think it's bad now it hasn't even happened yet.
Speaker 1: Well tonight it's gonna happen, and then tomorrow there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a winner and a loser. Yes, it's gonna gonna
Speaker 1: get it out of their systems. You think the loser
Speaker 1: is gonna go? Ah, I lost. I'm gonna move on
Speaker 1: to something else now, of course, not gonna think again.
Speaker 3: Brother on to whoever's pouring it on him, whoever wins,
Speaker 3: and it gets to get be one up on.
Speaker 2: Him back in a moment. Observer Live.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show Brian Elveraz here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike
Speaker 1: Simper BB also Wrestling Observer dot Com.
Speaker 3: We gotten to Brian Alvara now.
Speaker 1: Actually, people are gotten too all over. I can't even
Speaker 1: look at the chat. All right, we got more. So
Speaker 1: here's uh, here's the last couple of days. Rampage three
Speaker 1: sixty five zero point six percent from last week point twelve,
Speaker 1: which was down so it was just a show as usual.
Speaker 1: SmackDown was up to two point three million and a
Speaker 1: point sixty four in eighteen to forty nine, nearly doubled
Speaker 1: everything on network TV. But man, that Shark Tank they
Speaker 1: did pretty well. And then we've got Collision three fifty three,
Speaker 1: so you know they'll go against a WWE paper We know.
Speaker 1: It's funny though, is uh Actually Collision actually did And
Speaker 1: granted there was other competition as well, but not a lot,
Speaker 1: but Collision did worse against NXT than the actual WWE
Speaker 1: Fascline pay per view.
Speaker 2: That's kind of an interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with less college football competition that day than they
Speaker 3: had at any point during the year, it was really weird.
Speaker 3: Three hundred and forty five thousand against that payback, three
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty seven thousand against No Mercy. The thing was,
Speaker 3: there was about thirteen million people watching football and another
Speaker 3: two and a half million watching baseball that night, So
Speaker 3: these numbers here, three hundred and fifty three thousand went
Speaker 3: against almost seventeen million people watching football in baseball over
Speaker 3: during the exact same time that Collision was on. So
Speaker 3: it shows you how much of a chunk I mean,
Speaker 3: it really is like a quarter of their people, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe a little less than that, but that's how many
Speaker 3: people they lose every time something is on WWE Network
Speaker 3: or Peacock.
Speaker 1: Show even aired an hour early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which probably I would say probably didn't help matters either.
Speaker 1: So actually probably did because the first hour was not
Speaker 1: head to head with WWE, only second hour points. That's good,
Speaker 1: but regardless, I mean, I think this proves that NXT
Speaker 1: is the hottest brand in all of wrestling right now.
Speaker 2: That's what this proves.
Speaker 3: See, that's your problem with Tony Kahan's tweets is and
Speaker 3: now you're on Paul Lev's payroll.
Speaker 2: Aa oh do I have to hear that one?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: M M A New Japan and Stardom will be both
Speaker 1: holding events January fourth. 's what's so funny about that?
Speaker 3: Then? Nothing funny at all?
Speaker 2: Actually, well you snorted when I read it?
Speaker 1: Did I read it again? No?
Speaker 3: Keep reading?
Speaker 1: Well, January fourth of the Tokyodome City Hall, Stardom will
Speaker 1: run a show before Wrestle Kingdom. Bell time is noon,
Speaker 1: so you can go to Stardom and Wrestle Kingdom without
Speaker 1: missing a thing. That's what Stardom wrote, and those exact words.
Speaker 1: I like press releases like that. So uh yeah, this
Speaker 1: reminds me of back when I worked at the uh
Speaker 1: the the Tacoma Dome Event Center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't quite the Tacoma Dome.
Speaker 3: Did you have to stay there all day and only
Speaker 3: get paid for one event? But work too?
Speaker 1: No, there was not a show at the Tacoma Dome.
Speaker 1: It was only the Ta Coma Dome Event Center. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, that's that's the that's the news. I
Speaker 1: got nothing else to talk about today except raw. So
Speaker 1: why don't y'all ask me some questions? That's all always
Speaker 1: a fun time. Four two five seven eight zero seven
Speaker 1: five sixty six. That is four two five seven eight
Speaker 1: zero seven five sixty six. Text me your questions and
Speaker 1: I'll answer them. Might even take some questions from the
Speaker 1: chat here. Oh, but sometimes I don't like looking at it.
Speaker 3: Is the YouTube chat better than the Twitch chat today?
Speaker 1: Well, they're subscribers, so they're always a little bit there.
Speaker 1: All right here, Uh, this person says you missed a
Speaker 1: ricochet segment with that in Pierce where in the background
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre was talking to Ria Ripley. Is it building something?
Speaker 1: You think that was an accident? Yes, that is building
Speaker 1: to something.
Speaker 3: Hey, what do you do you like it? I like it, actually,
Speaker 3: even if I don't love every single thing about some
Speaker 3: of these storylines. One of the things that I've wanted
Speaker 3: AW to do, or just want wrestling to do in general,
Speaker 3: is link your top group and have those tentacles go
Speaker 3: down and have a bunch of intertwining storylines. One of
Speaker 3: the great years in wrestling nineteen eighty six, the Great
Speaker 3: American Bash, the NWA. You had the Horsemen on top,
Speaker 3: and you had a strong unit. It wasn't just one
Speaker 3: person and a bunch of flunkies. They actually were a
Speaker 3: strong unit together. And those they were mixing it up
Speaker 3: with the Russians, who were mixing it up with Dusty
Speaker 3: and Magnum, who were mixing it up with the Midnight
Speaker 3: Express and the Rock all of that stuff in two
Speaker 3: a lot. Look, I know not everybody loves what WWE's
Speaker 3: doing or their characters right now, but at least they
Speaker 3: have a lot of that intertwining together with the Judgment
Speaker 3: Day with Drew, with Sammy and Kevin and Jay and
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. So I actually applaud them
Speaker 3: for that because that's the type of thing. Again, when
Speaker 3: something happens, you can fall back on little parts of
Speaker 3: the story here and there. I just wish they would
Speaker 3: be a lot more careful with it with the rest
Speaker 3: of the roster.
Speaker 2: So Fightful here.
Speaker 1: This was tweeted twenty four minutes ago. Says WWE higher
Speaker 1: ups told Fightful Select and Top Talent that the company
Speaker 1: is not currently in talks with cmpunk about AWE return,
Speaker 1: which is uh that goes against what Dave wrote The
Speaker 1: Observer this Friday. Now, I have no idea, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I do know this.
Speaker 2: I do know this.
Speaker 1: It was brought up on the internet last week that
Speaker 1: if you've been paying attention to WWE programming lately, oddly, coincidentally,
Speaker 1: there have been several lines used on WWETV that were
Speaker 1: taken directly out of old cmpunk promos. Coincidence, perhaps there's
Speaker 1: only so many words in the English language. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I couldn't help but notice it.
Speaker 1: Last night on Raw, they absolutely, without question did a
Speaker 1: reference to cempunk, And that was Hinskey Nakamura coming out
Speaker 1: attacking Ricochet, grabbing him and hitting him with a GTS
Speaker 1: on the stage. A GTS.
Speaker 3: Well, that was in tribute to Keenta.
Speaker 1: Obviously they did not call it a GTS, but they
Speaker 1: my god, look at that knee. And then they showed
Speaker 1: a replay. Oh hey, in case you missed it, take
Speaker 1: a look at this, and he hit him with the
Speaker 1: the GTS. Now, there there are several possibilities here. Possibility
Speaker 1: number one is that they are in discussions with cmpunk
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they're trying to downplay that. Number
Speaker 1: two is they're not in discussions with cmpunk because if
Speaker 1: you recall, but I mean, this was according to Fightful,
Speaker 1: this is what they told talent.
Speaker 2: This is a little bit different.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a there was an incident where
Speaker 1: Randy Orton I think this might have been around WrestleMania
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Randy Orton was seen.
Speaker 1: And words started getting out that he might be back,
Speaker 1: and actually went out of their way to contact media
Speaker 1: to tell them he's not coming back, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: coming back. They wanted it made very clear that he
Speaker 1: wasn't coming back. So I mean, if they you know,
Speaker 1: if they contact mediaan go there is absolutely nothing he
Speaker 1: is not We're not in discussions or whatever. Then that's
Speaker 1: probably true based on history, but it's pretty coincidental all
Speaker 1: of this stuff that they've been doing involving cmpunk lately.
Speaker 1: But I was one person did make a very good point,
Speaker 1: which was maybe the reason they're doing that, Maybe the
Speaker 1: reason there was a GTS last night is that it
Speaker 1: is a test in the sense of that what would
Speaker 1: fan How would fans react to this? I mean, are
Speaker 1: they clamoring for it? Are we doing this stuff and
Speaker 1: it's like all over the internet and people are interested
Speaker 1: in it? You know, will it get a big pop
Speaker 1: if Shinske Nakamura does a GTS on raw And by
Speaker 1: the way, the answer to that is no. It got
Speaker 1: absolutely no reaction whatsoever. I mean, it was almost stunning,
Speaker 1: like they were just dead quiet when he.
Speaker 2: Did this GTS.
Speaker 1: So it is possible that maybe they're you know, the
Speaker 1: term usually is, you know, you send out feelers to talent.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're sending out feelers to fans, like, would would
Speaker 1: our fan base want to see this?
Speaker 2: Would they care?
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the best way to
Speaker 3: do it. You can do it through a commentary, surely,
Speaker 3: But I mean if he started rapping a figure four
Speaker 3: on do you think people would be saying, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Rick Flair is coming back.
Speaker 1: But people do the figure four all the time. But
Speaker 1: thet when's the last time there was a GTS on
Speaker 1: WWE television. The answer is twenty twelve before he left. Okay,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been. Dude, Kendy was doing that in NXT
Speaker 1: for crying Out and that was his finish.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I like convoy here calling it to go to Stamford.
Speaker 3: You can go ahead and rename it that if you
Speaker 3: want to, but look, I it would get They don't
Speaker 3: need to send test balloons out to do that. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they're necessarily doing that. They may be
Speaker 3: having fun with themselves, and they may be also in negotiations,
Speaker 3: not negotiations, in some sort of you know, covert negotiations.
Speaker 3: Who knows what's going on there. But I don't think
Speaker 3: they need to take it to that level of trying
Speaker 3: to you know, Shinsky using the GTS, and that's gonna
Speaker 3: immediately make fans brains just immediately go to punk.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's how That's how AW brought him in, just a
Speaker 1: little teas here and there, and by the time it
Speaker 1: happened like people were going crazy. So maybe they're trying
Speaker 1: something similar there for this audience.
Speaker 3: You refer to pipe bombs, you refer to you throw
Speaker 3: you know, a next symbol up with the hands, that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. I think, well, if he's not going
Speaker 3: to drive it home more.
Speaker 1: Sure, Survivor series is Chicago at the end of November.
Speaker 1: So if you're throwing out a tease every week, you
Speaker 1: don't start with someone putting axes on tape on here,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. I don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 1: we shall see. What do you think of them apples?
Speaker 3: How you like those apples better than pumpkins? I can
Speaker 3: tell you that more apples, cinnamon, less pumpkins. Spice? Okay,
Speaker 3: sure should be. You got an opinion on that? You
Speaker 3: don't like either one? Do you nope? Sucks? What do
Speaker 3: you drink during when he gets cold outside? Hot cocoa
Speaker 3: anything like that? Or you you poor chocolate?
Speaker 1: Now, this person says, if that GTS produced a loud
Speaker 1: cmpunk chant w w W would be way more interested
Speaker 1: in bringing him back.
Speaker 2: Well, they probably would, probably would.
Speaker 1: Are you okay today?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I didn't think of Actually, well, we'll be right back
Speaker 1: with Raw Observer Live.
Speaker 3: Back on the show. Mike Sperven. Brian Elber is here
Speaker 3: Wrestling Observer Live Sports Byline Broadcasting Network right now. Brian
Speaker 3: is angrily responding to what are.
Speaker 1: You talking about I've been sitting here just getting everything
Speaker 1: ready to go, and you jump the gun. Jimmy Christmas.
Speaker 2: Hey, do we talk about that Raw show?
Speaker 3: Yes? It was this. People are asking how.
Speaker 1: Much I can't even believe I'm saying this, but people
Speaker 1: are asking how much glue you sniffed today.
Speaker 2: I hope that's not true.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. See you know what, I don't care
Speaker 3: what anybody says. I don't care how anybody feels about
Speaker 3: this stupid day which ends with NXT and AW and
Speaker 3: me probably watching the Orioles and the Rangers. Look, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Raw was a show last night. We'll get to it
Speaker 3: here in this segment, but every right now leaning to tonight,
Speaker 3: and I want to see if Tony Kahn has tweeted
Speaker 3: anymore on his birthday.
Speaker 2: This person thinks you ate paste.
Speaker 3: You did that when you were little.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't you paint chips. I didn't need anything new.
Speaker 3: That's opilioma money, just.
Speaker 2: The same thing, over and over six years.
Speaker 3: Well, peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1: So Raw opened up with Seth coming down to the
Speaker 1: ring and he appeared none the worse for wear, But
Speaker 1: then he reminded us his back was broken, and he
Speaker 1: started teasing that he was going to have to relinquish
Speaker 1: the title and retire. But then he pulled to Rick Flair,
Speaker 1: I will never retire, and he said he was just
Speaker 1: getting started. Buddy said, you know, I'd like one night off.
Speaker 1: Crowd booed him vociferously. They did not want him to
Speaker 1: take one night off, and so out Drew and Roland said,
Speaker 1: oh man, I wanted one night off.
Speaker 2: And here you are.
Speaker 1: He won a championship match, and Drew said, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: just here to issue a challenge and I want you
Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent or as close to one
Speaker 1: hundred percent as possible, and I want you in a
Speaker 1: title match at Crown Jewel. Seth was like, wow, you're
Speaker 1: not going to attack me. Drew says, no, I want
Speaker 1: you close to one hundred percent, and so Seth has
Speaker 1: taken aback. He wants Drew to sing his song with
Speaker 1: Drew goes, I got business to attend to.
Speaker 2: So Drew starts to leave.
Speaker 1: He's halfway up the ramp and Damian Priest hits the
Speaker 1: ring and he starts beating the crap out of Seth.
Speaker 1: Rawlins and even though Drew said I want you close
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. He just stands there and watches. But
Speaker 1: then Priest comes out to try to cash in, or
Speaker 1: Don comes out with the briefcase to give to Priest.
Speaker 1: Drew stops him and he throws the briefcase, and then
Speaker 1: Seth makes a comeback and Priest doesn't get to cash in,
Speaker 1: so Priest is furious, and that leads to a segment later.
Speaker 1: So uh Ivar faced Koffe in a Viking Rules match,
Speaker 1: and the Viking Raiders are out of action for a
Speaker 1: while as a team because Ivar's partner, what's his name?
Speaker 3: Ivar and Stanley Brian.
Speaker 2: No one knows is it really?
Speaker 1: Is it? When we really come to this on a Eric?
Speaker 1: That's right Eric? So Eric is injured, and so now
Speaker 1: Ivar is getting this monster gimmick and he is an
Speaker 1: awesome monster, and so he and Kofe had a Viking
Speaker 1: Rules match, and this match was really fun. It was
Speaker 1: not quite as good as the first Ivar versus Coffee match.
Speaker 1: That match was awesome, but they used all the gimmicks
Speaker 1: and everything like that.
Speaker 2: And then for first Valhalla tried to interfere.
Speaker 1: So then her name Woods comes down to the ring
Speaker 1: and you know, can't do man on woman violence. So
Speaker 1: she just kind of yells at him and she goes
Speaker 1: running after him, and he ducks and she goes over
Speaker 1: the rail and then i of Ar kills Woods with
Speaker 1: a crossbard in the barricade, and then Kofe tries the kick.
Speaker 1: Ivar catches him, puts him through a table, climbs up top,
Speaker 1: hits the moon salt and pins Kofe.
Speaker 2: This was a fun match we had, Priest.
Speaker 1: He's holding McDonough up like on the ceiling. He's choking
Speaker 1: him on the ceiling, and the rest of the Judgment
Speaker 1: days show up and they start yelling at JD to
Speaker 1: shut up, and Finn and Rear reveal, yeah, we didn't
Speaker 1: come out there earlier. We're talking to Pierce. We've got
Speaker 1: you and me a tag team title rematch next week.
Speaker 1: So Priest is okay with that, but then he says
Speaker 1: I'm not done dealing with JD and Drew, and Rhea.
Speaker 2: Says, don't worry about Drew.
Speaker 1: You've got the briefcase when the time is right, and JD,
Speaker 1: she says, you need to prove yourself tonight. You are
Speaker 1: gonna go and take out Drew McIntyre. And he outs
Speaker 1: nothing to do with this, but he has to say yes,
Speaker 1: and then Priest tells him to me wants to finish
Speaker 1: you off after Drew breaks you in half. We had
Speaker 1: Raquel and Naya jacks. This segment sucked, absolutely sucked. The
Speaker 1: match sucked. And then Ria just ran in for the DQ.
Speaker 1: At least it was short and then relays out Naya.
Speaker 1: Raquel lays out Rhya relays out Raquel. Shana hits the ring,
Speaker 1: Rhea pulls her off. Naya, Rie and Shana get in
Speaker 1: a fight about who wants Nayamoor Shana Suplex's Ria gives
Speaker 1: the running need a layer out Shana Basler the last
Speaker 1: woman standing.
Speaker 3: You know it's a bad segment or a bad match
Speaker 3: when Brian goes full kN M seven simulator and just
Speaker 3: starts listing moves to get.
Speaker 1: But that's what happened. It was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: I got it. So then Seth is told. He tells
Speaker 1: Drew the match is official for Crown Jewel, but then
Speaker 1: he goes, what's your problem? Why didn't you You said
Speaker 1: you want to me a one hundred percent. You didn't
Speaker 1: save me tonight, and Drew says, by the way, did
Speaker 1: you hear this one. Tell me when I'm telling a lie.
Speaker 2: He says, hmm.
Speaker 1: He says, let me know what I'm telling a lie.
Speaker 1: I said that I was not getting involved in anything
Speaker 1: that's not my business.
Speaker 2: And then Seth is like, well.
Speaker 1: You stop the cash in, and Drew goes, yes, if
Speaker 1: he cash is in this whole Raw Rosters is gonna
Speaker 1: be just like the bloodline.
Speaker 2: Well, the Judgment Day running Wild, they'll have the title.
Speaker 2: I can't have that.
Speaker 1: Andrew's like, oh, or Seth says, you're looking out for everybody. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's so nice of you. That makes perfect sense, and
Speaker 1: Drew Commy goes, it does make perfect sense. And so
Speaker 1: Seth says, well, don't worry about the Judgment Day. They
Speaker 1: couldn't take the title for me, and neither can you.
Speaker 3: Hey, they're doing a great job putting layers onto Drew MacIntyre.
Speaker 3: If and when he does turn heel, he has enough
Speaker 3: heal excuses as to why you're wrong. I'm right, I
Speaker 3: was doing the right thing. You're talking about me. No,
Speaker 3: it's you that were the issue throughout this whole thing.
Speaker 3: They are being very careful with that.
Speaker 1: I like that that we have Michael Cole interviewing Cody
Speaker 1: and jay Usso, so Michael Cole is a commentator.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm still not really a fan of Michael Cole. Like tonight,
Speaker 1: I mean, he could not tell the dear me a
Speaker 1: straight armbar and disarmer to save his life, like over
Speaker 1: and over again. But the Michael Cole entering interviewer who's
Speaker 1: old and crusty and takes no bs anymore, I like
Speaker 1: this guy. So he's interviewing Cody and jay Us and
Speaker 1: he says, Cody, I have a question for you. How
Speaker 1: to winning these tag titles play into finishing the story?
Speaker 1: He says, Are you content with this defending the tag titles?
Speaker 1: Is this going to deter you from finishing your story?
Speaker 1: Or perhaps you don't want another crack at the WE
Speaker 1: title because you failed the first time around and again
Speaker 1: no fault of yours. Perhaps you're scared of trying again
Speaker 1: because you're going to let some people down. Coley, He's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I would like to talk about the tag team titles.
Speaker 1: I'm quite happy to have won these tag team titles.
Speaker 1: And Cale says, no, no, no, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: I want my question answered. You came this close to
Speaker 1: winning the WWE title just like your dad did. Is
Speaker 1: that gonna be your story?
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, Son.
Speaker 1: So before Cody cannounced her, outcomes sammy' zan. So this
Speaker 1: is this is a long term bill to Cody finishing
Speaker 1: the story. If you haven't figured that out yet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so about it. They hit Sammy's the wrong music, They
Speaker 1: hit his heel music back when he was you know,
Speaker 1: whatever he was. And so they come out it's Kevin
Speaker 1: and Sammy and they want a shot at the tag
Speaker 1: team titles, and long story short, both teams agree to.
Speaker 2: Do it tonight for the main event, which.
Speaker 1: Is amazing because when they announced it for tonight, I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they're doing it tonight. And
Speaker 1: then when it was clear they were doing it tonight,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way we're getting a finish.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be like a dq Ken out.
Speaker 1: Wherever we gotta finish. So then we had the Knackamer
Speaker 1: Gts and then Chad Gable, Bronson and Ricochet for a
Speaker 1: shot at Gunther next week. When they announced it was
Speaker 1: next week, I knew that Chad wasn't winning because I
Speaker 1: think they're also building to him getting a match against
Speaker 1: probably beating him, for the title at some point down
Speaker 1: the road. But my made man Bronson. This guy won.
Speaker 1: He crushed Ricochet with my favorite move, the tsunami, and
Speaker 1: next week on RAW. I can't even believe they didn't
Speaker 1: put this on n XT. Gunther versus Bronson Reid for
Speaker 1: the Intercontinental title. Yes, please, this sounds like the match
Speaker 1: of a generation. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Maybe overselling it a little bit, No, you know what,
Speaker 3: no Awson going on.
Speaker 1: They can prove me wrong, but at this point this
Speaker 1: is my most anticipated match of twenty twenty three, Bronson,
Speaker 1: Reid and Gunther. The only thing would be better if
Speaker 1: it was like another Gunther versus Elia Dragonov match.
Speaker 3: Hey look, I know they got Kampa now back with
Speaker 3: Johnny Gargano, which puts them firmly on the baby face
Speaker 3: side of the ledger. But I kind of liked him
Speaker 3: and Bronson Reid operating in their own vile sphears where
Speaker 3: they'll fight anybody. I like that on my pro wrestling roster.
Speaker 3: I hope they keep Bronson Reid that way.
Speaker 1: All right, Nothing like doing a show live and your
Speaker 1: wife text ask what's for lunch?
Speaker 3: Well, what's for lunch?
Speaker 1: So anyway, then we add Becky plugging her book and
Speaker 1: she's plugging, plug and plug and says in bookstores and
Speaker 1: then she goes, it's out in March. Whyfe I go
Speaker 1: to a bookstore then? Because it's not there, Becky. And
Speaker 1: then Zia Lee shows up. And Zia Lee, who I
Speaker 1: haven't scene since like the spring, she shows up and
Speaker 1: she goes, what about me? And Becky goes, what about you?
Speaker 1: And Zia goes, I want a shot, and Becky goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not a hard man to find. So apparently they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a match. Then we had Drew McIntyre and
Speaker 1: j D McDonough. Drew killed him, Claymore beat him up
Speaker 1: and that was the end of that, Drew being kept strong.
Speaker 1: For that title match, we had Wade Barrett interviewing DIY.
Speaker 1: They were attacked by Imperium and then man, they had
Speaker 1: a Tigan Knox video package. They had a Tigan Knox interview,
Speaker 1: and they finally go out for Becky versus Tigan Knox
Speaker 1: and for this match, the crowd's dead, like they are
Speaker 1: just dead. It was a babyface babyface match. They thought
Speaker 1: Teagan had no chance of winning and the match was
Speaker 1: good and then finally, like the last thirty seconds they
Speaker 1: finally got into it. Becky beat her with the disarmer,
Speaker 1: shook the hand, and they're telling the story that she
Speaker 1: didn't win, but she's on the rise this Tiagan knocks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'll show it off. Then beating Italian. Next week,
Speaker 3: beat somebody there, somebody?
Speaker 1: Were you not paying attention? Natty? Next week is facing Piper,
Speaker 1: who is won half of the Tag champs. Naddy will
Speaker 1: beat her, and then Teagan and Natty will beat Piper,
Speaker 1: Nibbing and Chelsea to win the tag team titles and
Speaker 1: then maybe they'll try for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Oh god, and then break up or crazy whe How
Speaker 3: does Chelsea Green fit in all this?
Speaker 1: She loses the tag team titles because she's one half
Speaker 1: of them, Mike then Forgottens, then what happens?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: How could it be any better or worse than what
Speaker 1: she's doing now?
Speaker 3: Maybe she can go to NXT and talk to the
Speaker 3: women in the kitchen. I hope they do that tonight.
Speaker 3: I hope the Undertaker is there and he's got everybody
Speaker 3: around him and he's doing his one man show in
Speaker 3: that little kitchen area where everything goes down and all
Speaker 3: the drama builds up.
Speaker 1: Then we had an amazing moment. They bring out Kevin
Speaker 1: and Sammy with Sammy's right music this time. Then they
Speaker 1: do the thing where they go to break, so these
Speaker 1: two poor blokes have to stand in the ring for
Speaker 1: four minutes and then they come back from break. But
Speaker 1: now it's time for a Ludwig Kaiser video package. So
Speaker 1: first off the package itself, I'm dying. He's there and
Speaker 1: he's he's in Europe, and he's got his fancy outfit
Speaker 1: and his fancy everything, and you know, he likes art
Speaker 1: and music and he's chiseled.
Speaker 2: And everything like that.
Speaker 1: And they go back to the ring and Kevin is
Speaker 1: sitting on the top rope and he's clearly just been
Speaker 1: watching this video and he has the greatest look of
Speaker 1: disgust on his face and he just turns to sam
Speaker 1: and he goes, what in the hell was that? And
Speaker 1: Sammy cracks like he starts laughing, and then they cut
Speaker 1: away and I was like, I don't have an answer
Speaker 1: for you, Kevin, I don't know what the hell that was.
Speaker 1: So it's Kevin and Sammy versus Jay and Cody for
Speaker 1: the tag titles, and believe it or not. Jay and
Speaker 1: Cody beat him. They hit the one D on Kevin
Speaker 1: and they pinned him in the middle of the ring,
Speaker 1: and when it was over, they offered the handshake and
Speaker 1: Kevin shook Jay's hand.
Speaker 2: And hugged him.
Speaker 1: He's accepted him now, making him on with more Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Back in the show, Brian Elberz here Wrestling Observer Live
Speaker 1: Mixmber vv, also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Pirse here
Speaker 1: says fight full of Nick Houseman, both saying they don't
Speaker 1: believe Punk is coming in. What can you tell us?
Speaker 1: I can't tell you anything. I talked about it earlier.
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea. Okay, I know one hundred
Speaker 1: percent that there have been weird things on raw of late.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's coming in. It doesn't mean he's
Speaker 1: not coming in, but it did happen, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Punk himself did commentary on the MMA
Speaker 1: show that he did his commentary for What's the name
Speaker 1: of the place, and and they even they asked, like,
Speaker 1: what'suppen he goes, I got nothing new for the next
Speaker 1: two months. It was clearly to make you think that
Speaker 1: he's coming in for Survivor series. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on, but you know, people could be trolling,
Speaker 1: people could be lying, people could be doing all sorts
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 3: I do not know the c FFC Cage Fury Fighting Championships.
Speaker 2: This Lenny here is gonna be the death of me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really is.
Speaker 1: In large stretches for a hot company. I said they
Speaker 1: were dead for a match one match. They were dead
Speaker 1: for one match on the show. I watched Collision and
Speaker 1: they were also dead for one match on the show.
Speaker 1: Sometimes a crowd doesn't care about a match, it happens,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they go crazy. You know what. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna go pretty crazy tonight for ay WNNXH.
Speaker 3: You need to start going crazy three and a half
Speaker 3: hours away before the buy it happens. No, get the
Speaker 3: night started, start pregaming now. Let's damn.
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