WEBVTT - NXT and Dynamite Head to Head 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:14.440 Ready, when you're ready, let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.079 Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.520 every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday's three, 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.160 Pacific six Eastern, Saturday Mornings with Jim Valley ten and 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.119 Pacific one Eastern. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:32.159 And it is Tuesday here on this show. And you 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:32.760 know what that means. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:38.440 It's Tuesday. It's the big day. It is AW Dynamite 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:43.120 versus NXT Tonight. I may be gone tomorrow, we'll see. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:43.920 I won't go it. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.199 It actually won't matter because I don't think the ratings 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.240 will come out. So after tomorrow's show's over, somebody should 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.199 skip Thursday. But madness has already broken out all over 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.080 the world of wrestling, and we'll continue throughout today, we'll 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.600 continue tonight, it will continue tomorrow and probably the next 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.360 day and Thenefully by the weekend we can all live 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.679 normal lives again. But yes, n XT and Dynamite head 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.560 to head tonight will tell you everything. As of right now, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.920 there's probably more to come, but we've got lineups, we've 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.800 got bonus time, we've got no commercials, we've got people 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.240 calling each other bad names. We've actually dropped to that 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.800 level at this point. So we'll talk about that here today. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.440 And we've also got some ratings notes from the last 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.440 week and some new Japan and Start notes, and as always, 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:36.280 we will have the world famous Raw report the WWE 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.119 fast Lane pay per views this weekend and the show 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.520 went off the air with really a lot of questions, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.880 and so now we have some answers. We know the 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.160 next WWE World Heavyweight Title match. It is seth Rawlins 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.840 and Drew McIntyre and it is taking place in Saudi 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.160 Arabia Crown Jewel on November fourth. What a way to 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:04.200 celebrate Ranny's birthday that will be because that is her birthday. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.080 And speaking of birthday, as it is Tony Kahan's birthday 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:12.120 today and also our own Big Vinnie v it is 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.040 his birthday today as well, So we will not be 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.600 celebrating that tonight because it's me and Dave tonight Wrestling 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.480 Observer Radio talking about these shows and the. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.040 Arrest of them. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.080 The normal Brilly and Vinnie show will be Wednesday, but anyway, 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:26.200 a lot to talk about it back in the month 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.200 with more Observer Live. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:45.040 Again the show. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.160 Brian Elber is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike Simber BB 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:55.679 also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Tonight, NXT and Dynamite head 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.480 to head. This will be the first time they've been 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.600 head to head since October eighteen, twenty twenty two, so 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.200 basically exactly fifty. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.440 One weeks ago. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.360 And at that time, Dynamite did seven hundred and fifty 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.519 two thousand viewers in a point two six and XT 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.880 did six seventy six and a point one point eight. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.800 So this will be the next round of this, and 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:26.040 both sides, both sides. It's not even like I mean, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.280 you know, I'm used to stupid stuff on my Twitter, 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.840 but uh, there's a guy today let me read this 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.160 because it was so it was so stupid I actually 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:37.000 acknowledged it. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:38.640 This guy here goes. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.680 It's about TV rights, not beating the Bingo Hall fiasco. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:53.200 But okay, this was J Dog, Yeah, J Dog. I 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.520 wish Jaye Dogg would call in so I could ask him, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.720 if it's just about TV rights, why isn't Johnson on 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.040 the show every week, Why isn't the Undertaker on the 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.400 show every week? Why are they all on the show 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:09.360 this particular week. Obviously, the whole idea of having main 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.720 roster people on NXT is to build up the number 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.920 for the TV rights deals which are coming to But 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.680 you don't see what's happening today, brother, you don't see 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.719 what's going on. Don't have to explain to you. I'd 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.960 be happy to J Doug. Well, you see J Doug. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.720 Today these two shows are going head to head and 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:35.960 NXT has announced that. And they started this. They first 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:40.200 announced that the first thirty minutes of the show would 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:45.279 go commercial free, and then AW announced their first thirty 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.960 minutes of the show are going to go commercial free. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.280 NXT of course always has an overrun, but today they 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.359 have and this is not actually unlimited, but an unlimited overrun. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:05:00.040 They can go much further if they want to. And 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.560 then of course AW announced, well, we're also gonna have 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.920 an overrun, and so now they both have a commercial 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:08.800 free thirty minutes. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.479 They both have an overrun. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.799 Then AB announces we're gonna have a buy in thirty 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:23.679 minutes before the show on Acts and what else, Facebook, YouTube, whatever, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.360 They've got a buy in where Eddie Kingston will defend 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.440 these Strong open Weight and the Ring of Honor World 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:35.479 titles against Minoru Suzuki. Then we'll have the actual shows 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.680 where Dynamite has Adam Copeland in his AE w Rustling debut. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.640 He will face the Giant Lucasaurus. Christian Cage will explain 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.200 his recent actions towards Adam Copeland. So that's two Adam 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.720 Copeland segments. We've got a Number one Contenders match Brian 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.440 Danilson versus Wertz Strickland. The winner gets Christian coming up here. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:03.520 On Saturday's Collision, Sorea defends the AW World title against 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:09.640 the Karashida. We have Ray Phoenix maybe defending the AW 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.560 International title against John Moxley, but I still don't know 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.479 what's going on there. We've got Jay White versus Hangman Page. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.120 We have got Chris Jericho versus Powerhouse Hobbs. We have 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.400 an appearance by MJF and we have Timeless Tony Storm 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.799 is ready for her close up. That is the Dynamite Show, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.280 and then on NXT we have got bron Breaker versus 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:40.200 Carmelo Hayes with Paul Hayman and John Cena. You can 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.320 see him tonight if you watch NXT, We've got the 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:52.840 great Osca wrestling, Roxanne Perez. We have Butch Ridge Holland 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:59.120 and Tyler Bate versus Gallas. Cody Rhodes fresh off thank 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.680 God not break his neck in the main event of 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.480 Raw last night, he has got an announcement. And then 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.720 of course we have appearances by both Becky Lynch and yes, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.480 the man who does not even appear on Raw or 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:19.360 SmackDown straight from the morgue, the Undertaker. The Undertaker is 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.080 going to be on the show. Now then gets even better. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.920 Tony Kahn today on social media delivered a message to 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:43.560 Triple H and Sean Michaels. Yes, He essentially tweeted, I 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:49.880 guess wwet's that Undertaker and like whoever could be appearing, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:55.600 and then Khan posted a message calling Leveck and Michaels 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.720 bald a holes. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:06.320 Curby your enthusiastism, oh man. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.840 That is what this has now come to. He tweeted 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.360 to call them bald a holes. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.120 After following up a tweet that somebody had sent him 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:23.080 about Vince McMahon about something that Vince had done, and 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.200 Tony responded, I will find the exact tweet to get 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.320 it correct, but basically intimated that Vince is guilty of 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.800 a lot more sins than whatever this person talked about 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.920 in the tweet here. But look, somebody look, Dagan asked. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.439 Oh boy, I'm glad some finds is so humorous. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.559 I do. I'll tell you why. I have no money 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.040 invested in this. I'm not employed by either one of 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.040 the companies. I'm a fan watching at home tonight as 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.600 these two behemoths of the wrestling business put on their 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.400 shows and throw everything they can at the wall for 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.319 one night on a random Tuesday in October while there's 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.840 baseball on. I'm greatly entertained. This has gone from the 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:12.000 point of being a little ridiculous to completely being sublime 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.800 for me, with the way they're trying to one up 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.600 each other and then Tony throwing in the one thing 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.880 that they can't do over with the USA, Although who knows, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.480 we'll see. Maybe they'll have a half hour pre show. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.640 Maybe they'll start at seven point fifty seven like they 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.880 used to do with Raw back in the day with Nitro. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.800 Who knows. I don't care whatever, it doesn't matter to me. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.719 I'm gonna be greatly entertained because of the discourse that's 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.280 going on look to act, for them to act like promoters, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.800 I'm not surprised at all. And this is if Tony 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.920 was doing something completely out of character, I guess you 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.000 could kind of hold his feet to the fire. But 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.840 when Dana White or Vince McMahon or paula Vec or 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.640 Tony Kahan or Bob Aeron or Don King or whoever 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.240 act like who they are when they're promoters, I'm greatly entertain. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.520 I don't expect them to be any other way. If 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:08.040 sha started this way, then I would have a concern. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.439 But Tony doing this on his birthday? Are you kidding 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.199 me a field day with this? 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.520 Well he is, But Lenny here goes. Wait, it's fine 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.400 when Triple H called them a pissant T shirt company, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:18.160 but bald a. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.360 Hole is over the line. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.640 Well company, you can you guys in the hold on 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.960 a second. These guys can say whatever they want. But 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:32.240 as we all know from the internet, which sucks. Okay, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.319 I think we can all admit that when we finally 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.000 start resorting to personal attacks, if nothing else you come 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.320 across like you're gotten to so bro, there's a million things. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.040 There's a million things that you can say back and forth, 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.320 but we've actually dropped to bald a Holes. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.800 It's a reference whatever it's. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.400 I know it is, But okay, he just took a 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.079 random reference. He could have Gilligan's Island, but he just happened. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.800 He was calling them bald a holes. Come on, what 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.000 do you want him to say? 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.480 Brian? What do you want You don't have to say anything. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.040 Just book the best show and try and win tonight. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.560 That's what the other side should be doing too. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.600 And that's what they're doing. This is just a spectacle. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.960 Let it be a spectacle for Oh, it's a spectacle now, it's. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:27.240 An absolute it is. It's completely ridiculous and who knows. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.520 Look NXT with that unlimited time, it's probably going to 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.559 be one minute past wherever aew does. But look at that. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.319 Can you imagine them pushing until eleven thirty or ten 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.480 thirty at night with an NXT show again on a 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.079 random Tuesday in October. Again, it's ridiculous. Let them be ridiculous. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.240 Get it out of their systems. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.240 Come on, get it out of their systems. Let me 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.040 tell you what's not gonna happen, Mike. They're not gonna 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.319 get it out of their systems. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.560 They will for a couple of days. Hold on the 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.480 next time, No. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:58.720 Hold on a second. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.800 You think it's bad now it hasn't even happened yet. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.000 Well tonight it's gonna happen, and then tomorrow there's gonna 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.200 be a winner and a loser. Yes, it's gonna gonna 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.720 get it out of their systems. You think the loser 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.800 is gonna go? Ah, I lost. I'm gonna move on 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.040 to something else now, of course, not gonna think again. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.160 Brother on to whoever's pouring it on him, whoever wins, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.920 and it gets to get be one up on. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.839 Him back in a moment. Observer Live. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.839 I'm gonna show Brian Elveraz here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.199 Simper BB also Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.040 We gotten to Brian Alvara now. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.880 Actually, people are gotten too all over. I can't even 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.640 look at the chat. All right, we got more. So 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.920 here's uh, here's the last couple of days. Rampage three 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.960 sixty five zero point six percent from last week point twelve, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.160 which was down so it was just a show as usual. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.960 SmackDown was up to two point three million and a 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:11.080 point sixty four in eighteen to forty nine, nearly doubled 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:15.360 everything on network TV. But man, that Shark Tank they 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:20.800 did pretty well. And then we've got Collision three fifty three, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.920 so you know they'll go against a WWE paper We know. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:31.440 It's funny though, is uh Actually Collision actually did And 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.760 granted there was other competition as well, but not a lot, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.960 but Collision did worse against NXT than the actual WWE 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.080 Fascline pay per view. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.840 That's kind of an interesting. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.319 Yeah, with less college football competition that day than they 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.520 had at any point during the year, it was really weird. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.920 Three hundred and forty five thousand against that payback, three 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.200 hundred and twenty seven thousand against No Mercy. The thing was, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.600 there was about thirteen million people watching football and another 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.160 two and a half million watching baseball that night, So 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.439 these numbers here, three hundred and fifty three thousand went 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:11.760 against almost seventeen million people watching football in baseball over 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.800 during the exact same time that Collision was on. So 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.520 it shows you how much of a chunk I mean, 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.480 it really is like a quarter of their people, you know, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.640 maybe a little less than that, but that's how many 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.920 people they lose every time something is on WWE Network 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.000 or Peacock. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.280 Show even aired an hour early. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.680 Yeah, which probably I would say probably didn't help matters either. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.960 So actually probably did because the first hour was not 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.240 head to head with WWE, only second hour points. That's good, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.960 but regardless, I mean, I think this proves that NXT 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.120 is the hottest brand in all of wrestling right now. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:46.720 That's what this proves. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.840 See, that's your problem with Tony Kahan's tweets is and 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:51.480 now you're on Paul Lev's payroll. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.320 Aa oh do I have to hear that one? 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:53.520 Now? 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.720 M M A New Japan and Stardom will be both 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.800 holding events January fourth. 's what's so funny about that? 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.040 Then? Nothing funny at all? 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.520 Actually, well you snorted when I read it? 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.400 Did I read it again? No? 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:11.160 Keep reading? 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.760 Well, January fourth of the Tokyodome City Hall, Stardom will 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.960 run a show before Wrestle Kingdom. Bell time is noon, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.040 so you can go to Stardom and Wrestle Kingdom without 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:27.400 missing a thing. That's what Stardom wrote, and those exact words. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:32.640 I like press releases like that. So uh yeah, this 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.280 reminds me of back when I worked at the uh 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.680 the the Tacoma Dome Event Center. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.120 Yeah, wasn't quite the Tacoma Dome. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.160 Did you have to stay there all day and only 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.880 get paid for one event? But work too? 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.840 No, there was not a show at the Tacoma Dome. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.480 It was only the Ta Coma Dome Event Center. Yeah. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.640 So uh yeah, that's that's the that's the news. I 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.800 got nothing else to talk about today except raw. So 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.320 why don't y'all ask me some questions? That's all always 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.200 a fun time. Four two five seven eight zero seven 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.560 five sixty six. That is four two five seven eight 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.320 zero seven five sixty six. Text me your questions and 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.880 I'll answer them. Might even take some questions from the 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:19.240 chat here. Oh, but sometimes I don't like looking at it. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.680 Is the YouTube chat better than the Twitch chat today? 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.480 Well, they're subscribers, so they're always a little bit there. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.280 All right here, Uh, this person says you missed a 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.000 ricochet segment with that in Pierce where in the background 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.920 Drew McIntyre was talking to Ria Ripley. Is it building something? 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.920 You think that was an accident? Yes, that is building 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:38.360 to something. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.080 Hey, what do you do you like it? I like it, actually, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.200 even if I don't love every single thing about some 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.720 of these storylines. One of the things that I've wanted 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.520 AW to do, or just want wrestling to do in general, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:55.160 is link your top group and have those tentacles go 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.800 down and have a bunch of intertwining storylines. One of 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.560 the great years in wrestling nineteen eighty six, the Great 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.160 American Bash, the NWA. You had the Horsemen on top, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.400 and you had a strong unit. It wasn't just one 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.080 person and a bunch of flunkies. They actually were a 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.600 strong unit together. And those they were mixing it up 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.240 with the Russians, who were mixing it up with Dusty 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.320 and Magnum, who were mixing it up with the Midnight 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.320 Express and the Rock all of that stuff in two 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.240 a lot. Look, I know not everybody loves what WWE's 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.200 doing or their characters right now, but at least they 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.680 have a lot of that intertwining together with the Judgment 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.119 Day with Drew, with Sammy and Kevin and Jay and 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.280 all that sort of stuff. So I actually applaud them 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.600 for that because that's the type of thing. Again, when 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.439 something happens, you can fall back on little parts of 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.680 the story here and there. I just wish they would 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.920 be a lot more careful with it with the rest 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:50.560 of the roster. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.359 So Fightful here. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.960 This was tweeted twenty four minutes ago. Says WWE higher 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.560 ups told Fightful Select and Top Talent that the company 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:09.480 is not currently in talks with cmpunk about AWE return, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.480 which is uh that goes against what Dave wrote The 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.399 Observer this Friday. Now, I have no idea, I don't know, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:21.280 but I do know this. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:22.760 I do know this. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.439 It was brought up on the internet last week that 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:33.920 if you've been paying attention to WWE programming lately, oddly, coincidentally, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:40.000 there have been several lines used on WWETV that were 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:48.640 taken directly out of old cmpunk promos. Coincidence, perhaps there's 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.119 only so many words in the English language. You know 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.080 what I'm saying, But I couldn't help but notice it. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:19:02.040 Last night on Raw, they absolutely, without question did a 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.440 reference to cempunk, And that was Hinskey Nakamura coming out 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.560 attacking Ricochet, grabbing him and hitting him with a GTS 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.960 on the stage. A GTS. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:14.879 Well, that was in tribute to Keenta. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.159 Obviously they did not call it a GTS, but they 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.159 my god, look at that knee. And then they showed 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.320 a replay. Oh hey, in case you missed it, take 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.080 a look at this, and he hit him with the 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:38.080 the GTS. Now, there there are several possibilities here. Possibility 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.679 number one is that they are in discussions with cmpunk 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:49.520 and for whatever reason, they're trying to downplay that. Number 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:55.600 two is they're not in discussions with cmpunk because if 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.560 you recall, but I mean, this was according to Fightful, 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.399 this is what they told talent. 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:02.560 This is a little bit different. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.240 You know, there was a there was an incident where 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.280 Randy Orton I think this might have been around WrestleMania 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:10.680 or whatever. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.919 Randy Orton was seen. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.520 And words started getting out that he might be back, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.840 and actually went out of their way to contact media 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.000 to tell them he's not coming back, and he wasn't 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.480 coming back. They wanted it made very clear that he 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.840 wasn't coming back. So I mean, if they you know, 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.520 if they contact mediaan go there is absolutely nothing he 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.800 is not We're not in discussions or whatever. Then that's 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.679 probably true based on history, but it's pretty coincidental all 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.440 of this stuff that they've been doing involving cmpunk lately. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:44.320 But I was one person did make a very good point, 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:49.119 which was maybe the reason they're doing that, Maybe the 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.679 reason there was a GTS last night is that it 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.800 is a test in the sense of that what would 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.520 fan How would fans react to this? I mean, are 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.320 they clamoring for it? Are we doing this stuff and 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.359 it's like all over the internet and people are interested 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.840 in it? You know, will it get a big pop 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.960 if Shinske Nakamura does a GTS on raw And by 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:12.440 the way, the answer to that is no. It got 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.960 absolutely no reaction whatsoever. I mean, it was almost stunning, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.240 like they were just dead quiet when he. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:19.240 Did this GTS. 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.960 So it is possible that maybe they're you know, the 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.800 term usually is, you know, you send out feelers to talent. 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.960 Maybe they're sending out feelers to fans, like, would would 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:32.679 our fan base want to see this? 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:33.520 Would they care? 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.119 I don't know if that was the best way to 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.400 do it. You can do it through a commentary, surely, 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.200 But I mean if he started rapping a figure four 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.480 on do you think people would be saying, oh my god, 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.080 Rick Flair is coming back. 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.399 But people do the figure four all the time. But 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.399 thet when's the last time there was a GTS on 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.840 WWE television. The answer is twenty twelve before he left. Okay, 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.159 there hasn't been. Dude, Kendy was doing that in NXT 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.359 for crying Out and that was his finish. 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.320 Anyway, I like convoy here calling it to go to Stamford. 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.240 You can go ahead and rename it that if you 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.400 want to, but look, I it would get They don't 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.600 need to send test balloons out to do that. I 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.879 don't know if they're necessarily doing that. They may be 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.680 having fun with themselves, and they may be also in negotiations, 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:24.360 not negotiations, in some sort of you know, covert negotiations. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.520 Who knows what's going on there. But I don't think 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.200 they need to take it to that level of trying 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.320 to you know, Shinsky using the GTS, and that's gonna 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.960 immediately make fans brains just immediately go to punk. 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:36.639 I don't know. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:37.480 I don't know. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.240 That's how That's how AW brought him in, just a 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.600 little teas here and there, and by the time it 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.920 happened like people were going crazy. So maybe they're trying 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.640 something similar there for this audience. 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.800 You refer to pipe bombs, you refer to you throw 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.439 you know, a next symbol up with the hands, that 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.000 sort of stuff. I think, well, if he's not going 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:58.560 to drive it home more. 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.000 Sure, Survivor series is Chicago at the end of November. 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.879 So if you're throwing out a tease every week, you 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:08.040 don't start with someone putting axes on tape on here, 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.199 but we'll see. I don't know what's going on, but 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.120 we shall see. What do you think of them apples? 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.720 How you like those apples better than pumpkins? I can 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.600 tell you that more apples, cinnamon, less pumpkins. Spice? Okay, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.080 sure should be. You got an opinion on that? You 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.080 don't like either one? Do you nope? Sucks? What do 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.360 you drink during when he gets cold outside? Hot cocoa 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.480