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Speaker 1: What made you think we knew anything about ourselves. Everything

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Speaker 1: Before I teach you all some things, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: So like, no, no, bring that same energy, you know

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Speaker 1: Granted it's the niceness that we should have all been getting.

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Speaker 1: And then lastly, in what's going on, it's like this

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't what like you're the deck deloration was

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Speaker 3: And now we had.

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Speaker 1: Very complicated one because we're still talking about reparations. There

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Speaker 1: but the repairing of the breach, which is what reparations

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00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: is about, Like you're repairing the things that were taken,

434
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: and rather than seeing that sort of repair for what

435
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: we went through, we just continue to see an.

436
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: Evolving version.

437
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: Of the type of oppression that we experienced in So

438
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: this is why I say complicated. Yes, the institution discourage

439
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: of slavery has been removed from our laws, but the

440
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: discussion among black people is like, yo, are we truly

441
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: free in the sense that was this wrong made right?

442
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: The reason why we can say that is because you

443
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: still needed a civil rights movement, you still needed a

444
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Black Panther movement, you still needed a Black Lives Matter movement.

445
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, they're there. These things still needed to happen.

446
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, people don't change overnight. But

447
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: my god, that was eighteen sixty five, y'all, like come on,

448
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, So that's what also what makes this holiday

449
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: complicated is that it just kind of doesn't feel complete

450
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: in to the extent that it could be. And of

451
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: course I don't have to tell you.

452
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: That I am not.

453
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: Saying I am not grateful for the completion of of Juneteenth.

454
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if I've said this already

455
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: or I'm going to say it later on.

456
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: In this thing, like.

457
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: All the rights we have as black people, we fought for,

458
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: like they were not given. We had to force them

459
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: out of the hands of the clenched fists of the nation.

460
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: We to pry our liberties out of their hands.

461
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: So just I don't know, I still celebrate Juneteenth because

462
00:29:25,600 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, slavery's over. Some tips I would

463
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: like to give you one of which may seem like

464
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: it's a little far fetched, but I need you to

465
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: understand this. It's can any of y'all say the word

466
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: nigga that's.

467
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: Nice even or not.

468
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: The realities of what it meant to be a slave

469
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: descendant in this country as a black person in a

470
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of ways still sits in our bones because of reconstruction,

471
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: because of mass incarceration, redlining, all types of ways for

472
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: which the country attempted to keep us as deeply as

473
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: they as much as they possibly can disenfranchised, and how

474
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: every step of freedom and liberty we had was not

475
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: given to us. We fought for it, and the ways

476
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: for which we were able to sort of judo our oppression,

477
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: sometimes into beauty, making treasure out of trash, empowering ourselves,

478
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: taking things that were meant for evil to use Bible,

479
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, God turned around for good, one of which

480
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: is nigga, which might be a bigger discussion later. I

481
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: guess it's all tied to Juneteenth. Is again a lot

482
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: of times we're in places where black people are being

483
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: free to be themselves, which means we gonna say nigga

484
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a lot among each other. And the question that some

485
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: of y'all may ask is when is it appropriate for

486
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: a non black person to say nigga? I mean, the

487
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: short answer is never, But obviously it's more nuanced than that, because,

488
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: first of all, we don't even agree among ourselves whether

489
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: it is or is not appropriate, or when is the time?

490
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: And in front of what company, won't even agree on.

491
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: Who's black Like. There's so much nuance there.

492
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: And I think that if you go back again to

493
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: the discussion with culture and who wasn't a side like

494
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: why we said we didn't want to hear Drake not

495
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: we didn't want to hear Drake say nigga no more obvious.

496
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: Well maybe not obviously. It has nothing to do with colorism.

497
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: It's not that. It's culture.

498
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: The history and the baggage of what it meant to

499
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: be hard are nigga like. It sits in our bones

500
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: and it's something that we know even currently, were we

501
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: be transfixed to a different time, what it would mean.

502
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: So there's this understanding that when I look at this

503
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: person and this black man is black woman across from me,

504
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: I know the ways for which they would have suffered

505
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: because I would have suffered the same way were we

506
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: in the environment that our ancestors were in. Because again

507
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: j Cole is Justice light skin, red men, light skin,

508
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Meth method Man's light skin. They're all very fair skinned men,

509
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Clay Steph, there's no question about their blackness because there's

510
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: a cultural understanding of who and what and how. That

511
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: is a little more like we said that the boundaries

512
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: are more gray than we would like to admit. But again,

513
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: it's not his color that is keeping us away from that.

514
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: It's an understanding of our experience. Let me give you

515
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: an example as somebody who's actually black, you know, and

516
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: I say that, of course with big air quotes, like

517
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: there's never any question.

518
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: Like sometimes I know a.

519
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: Lot of Puerto Rican people that have to like prove

520
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: they're like no, seriously, like I'm black. Look at this nose.

521
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Let me show you a picture of my auntie. Let

522
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: me show your picture my grandfather. Let me show your

523
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: picture of this. I'm like, okay, if you have to

524
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: go out of your way, now, this is my opinion,

525
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: you have to go out of your way to prove

526
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: to me that you are as black as you say

527
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: you are. That should give you pause as to how

528
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: freely you speak, because it's not necessarily about the right

529
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: or privilege to use a certain term. It's about an

530
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: shared experience. In my view, the reality is there are

531
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: in every hood in America, there's a white family who

532
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: grew up right alongside us. Who you from the black

533
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: part of town. Your parents just like worked at the

534
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: right factory and they made friends with this family. Some

535
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: of y'all grew up with us. I know down South

536
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: there's men that go y'all, little boys, y'all go mudding

537
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: y'all learned that that was the thing and the whole

538
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: time in your truck, you banging three six mafia, it's

539
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna rub off. You're gonna start talking the way your

540
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: friends and your rappers talk. Now again, like I said,

541
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: the jury is still out among black people how often

542
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: when we should say nigga and if it's appropriate, But

543
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: we say it among ourselves because we understand that nuance. Now,

544
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: maybe in your circle of friends, offline, among each other,

545
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: you've been given a pass. But to me, and here's

546
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: my advice if you are one of those, to me,

547
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: it is not something that you should fight to defend

548
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: if you truly understand our experience.

549
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: What am I saying by that?

550
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Like I have some friends of mine who are certified

551
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: be Fellon crips gang members, hold low riding driving de Cambodian.

552
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: You would only know if you saw them they are

553
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: black as hell. The way they carry themselves. You wouldn't

554
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: have no idea. You would be like, oh, and I'm

555
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: some pretty strange some brown niggas over there, you know

556
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like that's what you would think because

557
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: they black as hell, and even them in my presence,

558
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: who they say nigga among each other, and I know

559
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: they do, but they understand the black experience well enough

560
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: to know that, like, out of respect for you and

561
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: what you've gone through, I'm not going to talk to

562
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: you that. I'm not going to assume that I can

563
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: speak that freely now among theyhood among They said, that's different.

564
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: That's something that they need to discuss. And probably them

565
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: niggas that put them on gave them that particular pass.

566
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: But that's not They understand our experience well enough to

567
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: know that even though they from the field, they put

568
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: in more work than I did, still they understand that

569
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: I am, in fact they black men and they are not.

570
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: They are Asian men, and they understand that. And that

571
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: respect is to me the reason why they have a card,

572
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that they understand that I should lay

573
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: that card down.

574
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: It's not. It's actually the more I understand about your experience,

575
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: the more I know that just doesn't really have it

576
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: has no business coming out of my mouth because I

577
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: didn't as much as as much as I've been around y'all,

578
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: as much as the odd is just how I talk,

579
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: I understand I personally grew.

580
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Up, you guys know, in a Latino community. I speak

581
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: a lot of better Spanish than a lot of my

582
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: Latino friends. I know there are some things that, even

583
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: though I may have a better understanding in them, it's

584
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: not my place because it's not my experience. So to me,

585
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: if you feel like you have the right to defend,

586
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: if you're not black, and you feel like you have

587
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: the right to defend or the need to defend your

588
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: right to say to say nigga, I feel like you

589
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: missing a point and you really don't understand us.

590
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: I feel like that is proof that you shouldn't.

591
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: In my mind, among homies, people give each other passes,

592
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: and who am I to talk about your friendship because.

593
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: Listen, among my homies, there are a lot of non.

594
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: Black people say nigg and they say it to me,

595
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: but we are talking among ourselves. They all know better

596
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: than to talk like that to my brother, or to

597
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: my sister, or to my cousins, or like they know

598
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: better because they understand that this is very relational. And

599
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: I understand y'all's experience well enough. So when you get

600
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: that close, that much proximity, you don't you understand, is

601
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get at. So should white people

602
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: say nigga. Like again, I mean, you should black people

603
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: say nigga. I'm just saying, the more you truly understand us,

604
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: the more you'll be able to answer that question yourself. Now,

605
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: having said all that, New York is an entirely different planet,

606
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: like I have no idea what to do.

607
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: They done already made their decisions.

608
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, that the Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, they have all the

609
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: rights and privileges of black people. At least the New

610
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Eurekans are like the Dominican Americans because a lot of

611
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: times the Dominicans be black as hell, look black as me.

612
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: But when they're immigrant, when they're like first gin, they're like,

613
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I know black, I ain't know black, Like they don't

614
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: want to be black because they understand that, like to

615
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: be black in America is to be at the bottom

616
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: of the wrongs.

617
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: So but they were like, nigga, you black as hell?

618
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: You know.

619
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's a whole other discussion that I'm not

620
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: equipped to talk about, because New York's a whole different planet.

621
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: If you ain't one of them, you should consider the

622
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: things I'm telling you.

623
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: Now.

624
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: For this last part, I want to answer some questions

625
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: or a question I get from the collection of the

626
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: diaspora of the boiled chicken people, the people that don't

627
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: season air food or wash their legs.

628
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: I love y'all.

629
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you do season your chicken

630
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: and wash your legs, but that's probably because you met

631
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: us start using wash cloth. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this

632
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: is unfair. I'm just popping off because it's Juneteenth and blackness. Anyway,

633
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: the questions you guys often ask me, and I think

634
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: it's very genuine. How do you celebrate Juneteenth? What is

635
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: the most appropriate thing to do?

636
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 3: Now?

637
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: I understand this question for a number of reasons, probably

638
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: because all the stuff we just went through in what

639
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: is Juneteenth, and that the fact that it's only been

640
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: a national holiday for two years now, right, it's a

641
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: holiday that wasn't official, but it was.

642
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: It was kind of a holiday.

643
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It's like a holiday light We had parades, you know,

644
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: Black people celebrated it in certain ways where we went

645
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: and just did really black stuff. But yeah, you know,

646
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: I get it. Your issue is let me first reflect

647
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: the issue. Let me catch everybody up to like the

648
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: issue that they're probably coming at this as it's at

649
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: least white Americans, because this is obviously a uniquely American celebration.

650
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: America tends to suck all the meaning out of their holidays,

651
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: like and especially ones that have to do with somebody

652
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: else's culture, Like do you really understand Cinco Demayo? Do

653
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: you know that this is not Mexican independence, like that

654
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: this had to do with the war against the Friend.

655
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: Do you understand that?

656
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Do you understand that in Mexico this is like this

657
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: Sinkle de Mayo barely is a blip on the calendar.

658
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: The independence is in September. That's that's when they go off.

659
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: And if your idea of celebrating it is cosplay, y'all

660
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: be putting on some breros and and making incredibly nasty nachos,

661
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, and your little and your little taco bars.

662
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: For some reason, somebody told y'all ground beef belongs in

663
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: a taco. Like it's just just everything's wrong. You called

664
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: it sinko, They drinko. You're just gonna go get drunk,

665
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: which is in your defense what you do for Saint

666
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, Like, y'all just you just don't know how

667
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: to suprate. You just suck all the meaning out of

668
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: holidays Easter is like, I mean, it's supposed to be

669
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: a religious one, but what are you doing Easter? You

670
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: just you just watch sports and just like Thanksgiving is

671
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Turkey Day, you just eat and watch college football, Like

672
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: there's the meaning is always secondary to you.

673
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Church, what's the fourth version? Quadr? I don't know.

674
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: They just don't have Chrispin doesn't mean any what's the

675
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: true spirit of Christ? Every movie you watch about the truth,

676
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: none of it has to do Like Halloween is just

677
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: spooky day, like you just you just dress up like

678
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: that's what y'all do, Like your holidays have no meaning,

679
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: and you, for some reason think it's okay to cosplay

680
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: stuff that comes from other cultures like that, you just

681
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: and the problem is if you cosplay black stuff, it's blackface.

682
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: You look like a menstrual show. You can't you cannot win.

683
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: And then sometimes black people really just be like we

684
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: just want a day where we ain't got what's called

685
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: a white gaze. Do y'all know what the white it's Listen,

686
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: if you a female, you understand the white gaze because

687
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: it's the same as the male gaze. Like y'all just

688
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: can't do nothing without eyes on you.

689
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: You understand.

690
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you understand that ladies just at the club

691
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: just trying to dance with their homegirls, and y'all just

692
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of time women just are some Some

693
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: women just be comfortable in their body and they dance

694
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: because they can dance.

695
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: And you just enjoying yourselves.

696
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: You don't want an arbitrary penis just leaned up against

697
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: you, you know what I'm saying, Like, I get it, Like

698
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: you dancing to be sexy because you dancing to be sexy,

699
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: not because you need eyes on you. I understand that.

700
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: I throw parties. I understand this. Sometimes sometimes you want attention,

701
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't. And it's up to us to understand

702
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: us as in cisgendered men, to understand which is which

703
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: you dancing with your girls, you dancing with your girls.

704
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: I get it, that's what y'all need sometimes. Like and

705
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: I know I'm a male, I'm a little different, you

706
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

707
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't look at the homies and be like we

708
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: need to just go.

709
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: Dance like I just that just that just don't that's

710
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: not something that happens. Like I'm just saying, like that's

711
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: not natural to me. Yeah, it's not that unless we

712
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: like going to see some like break dancers like on

713
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: some B boy stuff, or it's just like, yo, we're

714
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: trying to kill a cipher. That's different. But I'm not

715
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: going to the club dance in a circle with my homeboys.

716
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: I'd be I'm a married man now, so it's different.

717
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: But like most of the time, it was to try

718
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: to catch a glimpse of some nicely shaped females, like

719
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: that was the goal. Anyway, you don't want the male gaze,

720
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: is the point, just like sometimes we don't want the

721
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: white gays. Sometimes we just want times but we just

722
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: don't want to explain ourselves. And then other times we

723
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: be telling y'all, man, learn something, go learn about our culture.

724
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: Don't be looking at us explain. So you like, okay,

725
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: well guess I'll pull up to come understand what's happening.

726
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: So I'm at the Quanta celebration. You the only white girl.

727
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: You got your Nigerian you know, head wrap on, and

728
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: now we're judging you for like I get it, you

729
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: can't win. It seemed like y'all don't know how to

730
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: just enjoy stuff without like you be in your head.

731
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's why I feel like while y'all y'all just

732
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: don't dance that well. Now I'm just saying is again

733
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: these are gross generalities. It's because y'all just be in

734
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: y'all head. And I understand sometimes you in your head

735
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: because you got such history of messing up.

736
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: I get it.

737
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: Now here's some suggestions I know that every year. I'm

738
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: gonna give you an example. We live in a part

739
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: of town very close to Asian communities. I live in

740
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: an area called Boyle Heights. To the west of me

741
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: is downtown right like right across like eight minutes away

742
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: and connected to downtown is Chinatown, a little Tokyo. The

743
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: other direction you got East LA. But the north side

744
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: of East La is a city called Monterey Park. Now,

745
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: if you've seen The Brother's Son, it took place over there.

746
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: So it's a largely Asian, specifically Chinese space. So every

747
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: year for Chinese New Year, they have a parade, and

748
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: you know what we do, We just go and watch.

749
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't wear no costume, I don't have my kids

750
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: dress up, don't. We don't throw themed parties at the house.

751
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm not mixing culture like where there's like geishas here,

752
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: like you know, like, it's pretty simple. They pass out

753
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: the little envelopes for the kids, got like twenty dollars

754
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: in I let my baby go get one of those.

755
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: You know.

756
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: They usually have like little shrines or exhibits set up.

757
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: We walk through, we look at the exhibits, we read

758
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: the things, get some dim sum, and go home. It's

759
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: not that hard. I don't have to put together. What

760
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying is get out your head. It's not hard.

761
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there's a parade somewhere. I'm pretty sure

762
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: there's a music festival. Crenshaw in LA does the you know,

763
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: the La Mirt Park Rising during June teen. There's usually

764
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: an MLK parade out here too, which is in January.

765
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: Of course, a different thing, which I'm usually telling you

766
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: don't go to that because at least in La, it

767
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: almost always gets shot up, so don't do that. But now,

768
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: the Lamurt Park Rising is a music fest, and of course,

769
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: like sometimes that might be a little two turned for you.

770
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: I get it. But if you're in the hip hop.

771
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, just go down there, get some jerk chicken. You

772
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: can visit a museum, barbecue, stay home. In Oklahoma they

773
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: do a June teeth on the East. It's a festival

774
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: I performed at many times. There's a whole lot of vendors,

775
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: whole lot of blackness. It's not that you're not welcome.

776
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Of course, you're welcome. Go see the show on the

777
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Juneteenth on the East they got a booth with cigars.

778
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: They do a car show. There's like motorcycles. Everybody we

779
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: loud and black and you just we're just enjoying ourselves.

780
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: We're being ourselves. We're being It's not that you're not welcome,

781
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: but don't come in a day shiki Like, That's what

782
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, Like, you can participate in something

783
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: without cose playing it if you want to go learn.

784
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure leading up to that, like, I'm pretty

785
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: sure in every city there is some sort of Afro

786
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: studies department that you know what I'm saying, I'm pretty

787
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: sure there's some sort of documentaries you can watch. Matter

788
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: of fact, I am going to link in this show

789
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: a documentary that I'm a part of. I'm not in it,

790
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: but I did a part of the soundtrack. It's about Juneteenth.

791
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: It's called June teenth, Faith and Freedom. It's on YouTube,

792
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: you can look it up. It's about an hour long.

793
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: A lot of my friends worked on it. Now it's

794
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: put together by this thing called Voices, which is a

795
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: partnership of this extremely Christian organization called The Daily Now,

796
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: before that turns you off or maybe turns you on,

797
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but before you draw any conclusions about

798
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: the fact that this is definitely faith based, it's because

799
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: abolition was.

800
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: It's because the Civil Rights movement was.

801
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: If some of y'all got evangelical baggage, and I totally

802
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: understand it, that you have that Black church with all

803
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: of its problems and we got them is very different.

804
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: The Black Church, for most of the time that this

805
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: has been a country, has been the moral compass. It's

806
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: been the conscious of the country. It's been Black church.

807
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: That's where we've organized, where we've strategized, has caused movements,

808
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: the civil rights movement, you know, and even if it's

809
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: not even and sometimes like it just church period, you know,

810
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: like even if we're talking about like the Nation of

811
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: Islam or or you know, Muslim communities, we're talking the

812
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Hebrew Israelites, which is a sect of sort of a

813
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: black version of a type of anyway, we'd be a

814
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: whole other conversation about the Hebrew's lights. But either way,

815
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: faith spaces has been where black people have organized the

816
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: whole entire time. So you cannot from the civil rights movement.

817
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: You cannot extract the Baptist Church from the civil rights movement.

818
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: And it's the same with Juneteenth. You cannot extract the

819
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: role the church played, specifically the Black church, from the

820
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: abolition of slavery.

821
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: It's just impossible.

822
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: So the people to tell this story in its totality

823
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: are these people. I understand that, like the lines between

824
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: sacred and secular for other cultures might not be as

825
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: blurry as are, but for us, it's like you couldn't

826
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: because we face such such such deep oppression in the nation.

827
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: It was impossible to exist in this nation without some

828
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: sort of spiritual foundation, and that out of that spiritual foundation,

829
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: out of that tradition of Moses and the children of

830
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: Israel being freed from Egyptian slavery and like that, it

831
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: was hard for us to not see ourselves in that,

832
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 1: and that be a part of the way for which

833
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: we understand our existence in this country.

834
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: Now.

835
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Of course, obviously every black person ain't no Christian, you

836
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Or come from that. But what

837
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that faith is in some way. That's

838
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: why I mentioned Nation of Islam was you know, and

839
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: five percenters Hebrew is Arelite. Just the church, mosque, temple,

840
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: synagogue has always been a place where we've organized.

841
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: So anyway, look at the doc. Teach your kids. Go

842
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: gets a barbecue.

843
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: Like some of y'all weirdos have gone down to Gettysburg before.

844
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: Well, go to Galveston.

845
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Now, if there's no parade, there's probably some sort of

846
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: like community like flea market or street fair somewhere in

847
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: the black neighborhood in your town. And if you ain't

848
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: got one in your town, go find one. I'm pretty

849
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: sure in the rural list of areas, if you drive

850
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: a little bit further, you're gonna find some black people,

851
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: right and just go visit again.

852
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: You don't have to overdo it. You don't have to.

853
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Don't corner no old black dude. You know, you gonna

854
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: find some You're gonna find some hoteps. You're gonna find

855
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: some brother omar's that umar that feel like you ain't

856
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: got no right to be there, And that's cool. Don't

857
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: worry about that. You know, every black community got the overwoke.

858
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you got to be able to read

859
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: the room and respect the place. Like there has been

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Speaker 1: times that I've had to read the room listen. I

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Speaker 1: oddest moments is if each of my daughters have a

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Speaker 1: There's ten women in my house, and sometimes my teenage daughter,

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Speaker 1: when she was younger, she would have, you know, girls

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Speaker 1: spend the night. And I don't know if you know

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Speaker 1: how Now again, these are grossy and I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: this is my experience between my sisters and my daughters

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Speaker 1: and my wife. Like girls just they y'all just be

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Speaker 1: like in y'all draws and just going to the bathroom

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Speaker 1: and y'all shower while you talking and having conversations and

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Speaker 1: just it's the I'm like, I don't it's like y'all

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Speaker 1: treat the house like a locker room. Like y'all just well,

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Speaker 1: y'all that comfy with each other. I just I you know,

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Speaker 1: they my daughter are homegirl, they share bed. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: We didn't. I we just don't do that.

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Speaker 1: So at that point I'd be like, I know I

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Speaker 1: live here, I know I have a right to be here,

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Speaker 1: but I should probably Sometimes when the older ones and

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Speaker 1: my wife has friends over and they're discussing, they're teaching

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Speaker 1: the little ones, you know, things to do about their

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Speaker 1: menstrual cycle, how to prepare for this. So that means

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Speaker 1: my wife's professional, unbelievably attractive homegirl who I've never thought

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Speaker 1: about as anything other than just my wife's homegirl, are

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Speaker 1: now talking about their period. It's probably time for me

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Speaker 1: to go. They didn't have to tell me. I'm just

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Speaker 1: like this, all this seems I should probably walk away.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you, Jo Antennas, there are probably times

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Speaker 1: white people when you can understand that, like the conversation

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Speaker 1: is probably not for me, and if not, it maybe

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Speaker 1: take some black people with you to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should probably should probably walk away from this. Just

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Speaker 1: ask me the questions, just read the room. That's that's

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Speaker 1: my advice. But all in all, guys, listen, it's a

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Speaker 1: great thing to celebrate. It's a moment where our country

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Speaker 1: got it right. There's probably a parade you could participate

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Speaker 1: without cause playing and just enjoy the day, barbecue and

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Speaker 1: celebrate with us.

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Speaker 3: I hope that helps. And please, please, please, I'm speaking

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Speaker 3: specifically to the white women. Don't try to learn no

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Speaker 3: African dances. Don't go get your hair braided. Just I'm

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Speaker 3: begging you. Don't go get your hair braided. Please, do

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Speaker 3: not try to learn no African I'm begging you. Just

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Speaker 3: go watch the sisters.

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Speaker 1: And maybe if one of them want to pull you

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Speaker 1: to the side and show you how to do something

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Speaker 1: that's different, let them lead the way.

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Speaker 4: Okay, just I'm begging you. Hood politics.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.

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Speaker 1: let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living,

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Speaker 1: you understand politics.

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Speaker 3: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all

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Speaker 3: next week.