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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about

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Speaker 1: the choices we make and where they lead us. My

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Speaker 1: guest today has had a long standing career since the nineties.

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Speaker 1: She's my og girl. You know her as a judge

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Speaker 1: on the massive hit The Masked Singer, which airs right

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Speaker 1: now Wednesdays on Fox. It's such a fun show to watch.

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Speaker 1: She's also an author, an actress, a TV producer, and

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Speaker 1: she's the founder of the clean beauty brand Formless Beauty.

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Speaker 1: She's hilarious, beautiful, and I absolutely can't wait to chat

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Speaker 1: with her. Please welcome Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg to the podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: you are such a feast for my eyeballs right now.

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Speaker 2: Ditto, Ditto. It's so good to see you.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen you. When's the last time we saw

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Speaker 1: each other? Jenny McCarthy, God.

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Speaker 2: Was it on a talk show?

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Speaker 3: I feel like possibly I could have or my podcast

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Speaker 3: or somewhere like we crossed paths. I'm not even sure,

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Speaker 3: but do you recall that we did act together?

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Speaker 2: Girl?

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Speaker 1: How could we forget that?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if she.

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Speaker 3: Remembers I played a lesbian plumber on her show.

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Speaker 1: Oh you were a plumber. I knew the lesbian part,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know the plumber part. Yes, I didn't

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Speaker 1: recall plumbing. Okay, I just remember you were a lonely

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Speaker 1: lesbian who had the hots for Val Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It could be based on a true story, so funny.

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Speaker 2: When they called me to do that role, I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, hell yeah, and then I got the worst like flu.

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Speaker 3: It was like Nora virus of my life or something terrible,

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Speaker 3: so I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: They had a placement come in and then.

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Speaker 3: Literally the day before you guys were about to shoot,

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Speaker 3: they called me like, do you feel any better? Because

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Speaker 3: we don't like the person that replaced you, so you

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Speaker 3: have to come in and take your rollover.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like all right. And it was so great.

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Speaker 2: You guys were so welcoming. I did so many sitcoms

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Speaker 2: back then. I was like, I was that.

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Speaker 3: Guest that used to be constantly on the Love Boat

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Speaker 3: or Fantasy Island back in the day. I just went

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Speaker 3: from sitcom to sitcom to sitcom, and you guys were

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Speaker 3: so lovely to me and I. You were just kind,

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Speaker 3: You were just a good soul, and I felt lucky.

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Speaker 1: I was so happy to have you on the show

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Speaker 1: to begin with. I just felt so just I'm so

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Speaker 1: comfortable with you. I think I don't know why is it?

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Speaker 1: Because do you remember what we used to get each

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Speaker 1: other's mail? Yes? I do.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you guys, Jenny, people is like,

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Speaker 3: who do people could use you with? I'm like always

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Speaker 3: it's Jenny Garth, Like I have signed so many autographs

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Speaker 3: with your name because I'm like, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: disappoint the people. Very nice and they're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I love you on Nanoto and I'm like, thank you,

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Speaker 3: and I'll just sigh. They're probably going home going the

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Speaker 3: signature doesn't match. But I don't want to be a disappointment.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm I'm very nice to them, so

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Speaker 3: I figured you wouldn't mine. But it happens a lot,

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Speaker 3: which which is a compliment.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I think it happened so much that we actually I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know how this could have happened, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like we got each other's mail one we.

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Speaker 2: Did, we did, we did, We definitely got each other's mail.

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Speaker 2: How does that?

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Speaker 1: How did the post office, confuse us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't That's that's a really good question.

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Speaker 3: I can understand some like fan mail or something like that,

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Speaker 3: but it was very bizarre, very well.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody I would rather be confused with than you,

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Speaker 1: So I'm very comfortable with it.

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Speaker 2: Did Oh I agree? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We have so much to talk about,

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Speaker 1: the Masked Singer, your journey to love, your beauty brand,

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Speaker 1: formless beauty. I want to get into all of it.

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Speaker 1: But before we want to get into that stuff, you

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Speaker 1: are such a multi hyphenate. You're a host, you're an author,

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Speaker 1: you're an entrepreneur. When you are growing up in the

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Speaker 1: best place ever, I will add the Midwest, specifically Illinois.

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Speaker 1: We are fellow Illinoians. I want to know what did

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Speaker 1: you want to be when you were little?

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Speaker 3: So when I was very little, I grew up wanting

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Speaker 3: old with my in my inside of my family, I said,

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Speaker 3: you have to call me Ronda from now on because

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Speaker 3: watching Vernon Shirley back in the day when Laverna Shirley

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Speaker 3: moved to Hollywood. They had a neighbor named Ronda, and

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Speaker 2: Boobs, and I was like, that's what I want to be.

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Speaker 3: Go figure, I'm like seven years old, and so I

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Speaker 3: walked around as Ronda.

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Speaker 2: I would have you know. The only script I knew

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Speaker 3: So I would perform masks because that was the script

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Speaker 3: I knew. I'd make people sit down and listen to me,

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Speaker 3: do homilies, and then I used to do talk shows

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Speaker 2: I try to imitate Oprah.

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Speaker 3: So there was always a connection of me wanting to

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Speaker 3: get into the business. I just didn't know how because,

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Speaker 3: as you know, when you grew up in Illinois, we

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Speaker 3: didn't have much money. So it was kind of like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's like at telling your you know your mom and

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Speaker 3: did you want to be an astronaut?

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Speaker 2: It's that far away, you know.

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Speaker 1: And nobody in your family had any history in entertainment,

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Speaker 2: No no one, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: So when I went to college, I went to be

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Speaker 3: I I have nothing to lose. I'm nineteen, Why don't

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Speaker 3: And so when I went out there, I went on

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Speaker 2: Little did I know at that time it was you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's hard to go from Playboy to comedy or

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Speaker 3: and so they wouldn't even let me audition Jen They said, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you think I'm gonna do?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take my clothes off in the middle

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Speaker 3: of a gage show Like now, Playboy seems so tame

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Speaker 3: It was like rated PG practically, So I crashed the audition.

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Speaker 3: I actually went to the cattle call, which there was

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Speaker 3: even have a headshot that time. So I drew a

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Speaker 3: And it was a great transition because then people go, wow,

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Speaker 2: So I got to show that other side.

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Speaker 3: And then I had to pound my way into trying

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Speaker 3: writing books and then I just I just I love

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Speaker 3: so I need to be stimulated constantly.

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Speaker 1: There are so much alike it's freaking me out, like

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Speaker 1: the whole story minus the Playboy party didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: But we are so much alike, like you worked hard

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hustler.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like I think it is when you're

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Speaker 2: There only leaves one road. But you know, this business,

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Speaker 3: I remember all the articles going, oh my god, you

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like.

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Speaker 3: You can believe it, or you can believe in yourself.

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Speaker 3: And I just believe in myself and keep going. And

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Speaker 3: like I just started just started to miss acting only recently,

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Speaker 3: And then I took my own podcast, It's Serious for

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Speaker 3: seven years, and then I transitioned to the mass singer.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm like, you know what, I kind of

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Speaker 3: There's nothing going on like actors right now in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult to get work. Especially the sitcoms are dead.

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Speaker 1: There's no Sitcomoy's sad, right, so sad, there's nothing, no, no.

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Speaker 1: You know what they say. I read this somewhere that

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Speaker 1: persistence is the key to success. And you are a

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Speaker 1: vision of persistence. You're a vision of talent, like just

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Speaker 1: that and made your way to have this incredible career,

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Speaker 1: a long lasting career, albeit it's had its challenges. You've

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Speaker 1: had to work really hard, You've had to reinvent yourself

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Speaker 1: a million times, but you've always stayed true to exactly

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Speaker 2: I think, oh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's what really keeps me, I think, alive,

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Speaker 2: Staying true to myself.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, like really really, you know what, it

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Speaker 3: also really helps being a mom and then being a

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Speaker 3: single mom, because you also have that motivation to pay

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Speaker 3: the bills. Like you know, when my son was younger

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Speaker 3: diagnosis and we smiled for divorce.

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Speaker 2: Within the same week. That was a tough time in

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I just remember crying so hard. My

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. I mean, it's already been

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Speaker 2: because they come uncooked. You to stick them on the oven,

443
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: teach him stuff, and then they're.

444
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 3: Fully baked and then they're like ugh, And I just

445
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 3: want a one that was because this is what happened.

446
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if what happened for you.

447
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: In the dating world, we tend sometimes us ladies who

448
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: are I feel like women are more of all the

449
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: men sometimes sorry, but okay. And we tend to downshift,

450
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: like I'll do the spiritual growth, I have to end

451
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: a relationship.

452
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: I'll work on myself. I'll get to this next level.

453
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: Then I'll meet a guy and I'll have to downshift

454
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 3: my energy. It's almost like playing down in a room.

455
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 3: It's like you'll take you'll sacrifice parts of yourself that

456
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: you already kind of built up yourself. You'll put them

457
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 3: as the priority instead of yourself. You'll give them the

458
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: first choices instead of So I wound up kind of

459
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: kept downgrading each down, shifting like a car gear in

460
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: each one of these relationships. And I was like, f that,

461
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that anymore. So I took one year break.

462
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not gonna date anybody. I'm not

463
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: gonna sleep with anybody. I'm not gonna flirt with anybody.

464
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna work on me and stick there. And

465
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: then that's when a year later I met Donnie. So

466
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: he came into my life and we walked together by side,

467
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: holding hands, looking forward and not trying to clip. I

468
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: call it clipping each other's wings because a lot of

469
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: times you get into relationships and you want the other

470
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: person is a little jealous, ego gets involved. They don't

471
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: want you to be successful, feel afraid if you get

472
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 3: more successful that you might leave them, so they'll clip

473
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 3: your wings. They'll give you little insults here and there

474
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: to keep you, you know.

475
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 2: Grounded and so familiar.

476
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: Yes, right, And then you recognize those patterns, and it's

477
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: sadly sometimes you believed it in the past, you know,

478
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to make sure that I was

479
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: with a wing fluffer, not a wing clipper.

480
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 2: And Donnie was one of those guys that would just.

481
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: Support me and be there with me and want to

482
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: and celebrate the successes, you know, and he still does

483
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: it to this day.

484
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: That's the best. Again, similarity, That's how I feel with

485
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: my third and hopefully final marriage. I'm glad that kind

486
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: of support. I'm so happy for you to.

487
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's been it's been almost ten years

488
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: for you.

489
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: You kind of know.

490
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: At this point if they're a wing clipper ling wing clupper.

491
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: So obviously, how did you recognize that he was the

492
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: best to find me asking?

493
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: Honestly, it was that kind of support that I had

494
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: never experienced before, that acceptance of who I was and

495
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: his need almost to let me shine. Like and I

496
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: remember after my divorce, I was like, what are my

497
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: non negotiables? Wrote down the things that I had learned

498
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: about myself that I wanted to do differently, and on

499
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the on the top of that list was I want

500
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: somebody who is not afraid to let me shine as

501
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: bright as I can and then just be there to

502
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: support me. Yeah, and that's what it was for me.

503
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: And he makes me laugh a lot. Oh, so there's

504
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: that a great me too.

505
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 3: Humor, I'm telling you, guys, humor is even better than

506
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: a six pack. Guys, it's even better, better than the

507
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: six pacts, so so much better.

508
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: It's so much better because also guys that are interested

509
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: in being funny are not that like self obsessed that

510
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: they have to have a six pack like. They're more

511
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: about like experiencing you and letting you do your thing

512
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: and having a good time. It's just such a difference,

513
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: such a difference.

514
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: It is such a difference.

515
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: And you know, one little tool that me and Donnie

516
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: do to keep things on track, we do a lot

517
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: of work on a relationship is that we do this

518
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: thing come called questions sometimes, so it was like we're

519
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: on a plane ride or we're like taking a long drive,

520
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: or like let's play questions and questions will be maybe

521
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: something on our mind that we didn't like have time

522
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: to really get into a topic right or what can

523
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: we do to Is there anything I can do to

524
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: improve this relationship? Is there anything you're noticing? This is

525
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: part of questions. Is there anything you're noticing that I

526
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: can do or that I'm not doing that would help

527
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: you in our relationship. That is such a beautiful thing

528
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: to ask because there is always something. So for instance,

529
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: one of the things that came up really recently, not

530
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: actually not but maybe a year ago, and we're playing

531
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: questions that Donnie implemented so beautifully, I said, I would

532
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: love even more curiosity, like because sometimes when you're in

533
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: a relationship for so long, you tend to not get

534
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: as curious because you know all the answers to about

535
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: each other, you know, so it's you kind of get

536
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: like we always have that spark, we always have that fire,

537
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: but you tend to sometimes lose a little bit of

538
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: the curiosity. So I said, I would love it if

539
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: you got a little bit more curious, like a talk

540
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: show host when I don't know what news event happened

541
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: or something even like that, like, hey, what do you

542
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: think about that thing that you know so and so

543
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: just out on TV? Or what are you thinking about

544
00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: the you know, uh whatever, whatever it is to spark

545
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 3: like my intellect and to like bring some conversations or

546
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: go deeper or things like that. Just go to playing

547
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: curiosity because we tend to forget to do that.

548
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: A little bit.

549
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that has been really really fun. I mean,

550
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that later today. Honestly, I'm going

551
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: to play questions with Dave. Yeah, because I think that

552
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: you're so right. We learn, you know, there's so much

553
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: we can always be working harder to improve our relationship,

554
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just get complacent and comfortable. Yeah, and

555
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: those things aren't important. So that is a great tip

556
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: for me and all of our listeners. Let's play the

557
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: question game. Okay, I like it.

558
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: I call it check in as well.

559
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: You know, let's do a check in question, but we

560
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: do call it questions because it's fun and we take turns.

561
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, it's so good. You He just recently

562
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of completed his very long run on Blue Bloods, right, yep,

563
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: you have mal to yourself. Now, how's that working out

564
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: for you?

565
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's been he would go from Blue Bloods

566
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: to his tour, from blue Bloods to his tour. So

567
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: we thank god we have a solid foundation because I

568
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: also shoot my show in LA so there's a lot

569
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: of flying back and forth. There's a lot of not

570
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: seeing es spells like you're in COVID.

571
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: It was hard. So this is the first time.

572
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: We've been together, like twenty four hours a day, and

573
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: now I'm scared because I'm even more addicted to him.

574
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: I thought I was addicted to my husband before. Now

575
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: he just went out of town and I was like,

576
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: we're both going, what are we gonna do? Like, even

577
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: if we're not speaking to each other, our energies together

578
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: is just makes everything calm and wonderful. So now he's

579
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: gonna be filming again. He's doing a spinoff of Blue Bloods.

580
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, so I'm just I'm like, well, I'll

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: be visiting you a bundelare, And what about.

582
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: The show that you guys are doing together, the true

583
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: crime specials Very Scary Lovers.

584
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: He does a show called Very Scary People.

585
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: We just did a Valentine special of Very Scary Lovers,

586
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: but we're talking about rolling that off into a series

587
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of.

588
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to say amazing, it's the wrong word.

589
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: Insane couples who are very scary do a lot of

590
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: bad things. So diving into this, I love like psychology

591
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: and thinking and figuring out because especially with couples, usually

592
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: there's one sane person to talk the insane person out

593
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: of doing something dangerous. But when you have insane meeting insane,

594
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: it's a whole other ball of wax.

595
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that's about thanks.

596
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see if we spin that off. But

597
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: it was really nice working with them, Like I.

598
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: Was like, I bet maybe we could do even more

599
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: together because it was really nice because it didn't feel

600
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: like work then, and we're.

601
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Like, we're going together, We're going to work together.

602
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: I've always dreamed of working with my husband like that.

603
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: He's a restaurant tour and I don't have any interest

604
00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: in serving people so like food. So that's not out yet.

605
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Maybe some day, but I hope that happens for you

606
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: because I can see how you light up.

607
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I really I enjoy him, I

608
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: love him. I want this to work.

609
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: When you're so I'm not going to say obsessed, but

610
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: you're so happy in your relationship. You love this man

611
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: and you love Evan, your son, Like, how do you

612
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: find time to love yourself? That is? You know, that

613
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: is an age old question, but everybody needs to figure

614
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: out figure out the balance totally.

615
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: And you know, I really believe balance comes with time.

616
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: I think we have to screw it up a lot

617
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: in order.

618
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: To put the oxygen mask on ourselves, and sadly that

619
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: that comes with a lot of depletion and exhaustion. So

620
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: what the best thing that came out of my life

621
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: was a horrific relationship I was in in the past

622
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: that I lost myself so completely that it's kind of like, uh,

623
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: there's a there's a there's a quote from Game of

624
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Thrones which is hilarious, but I'm always like, yes, he

625
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: says chaos is a ladder, and it's true. So I

626
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: had so much chaos going on in a certain relationship

627
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: that this ladder was the only way out, and that

628
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: ladder was each step of self love and getting out

629
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: of it. I had the most, the biggest epiphany, the

630
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: biggest shift in everything, and I was like, wow, if

631
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: I didn't go through that cdoch relationship, I never would

632
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: have learned about self love and self care.

633
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: I it made me realize important is that I con first.

634
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean, of course, ignoring other people, but

635
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: the freedom to have the balls to be like no,

636
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: this is what I want to do was.

637
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: So hard for me, really hard, really really hard.

638
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: You know. It's like I always people pleaser. My whole

639
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: life were like a caretaker and like I just want

640
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: to make sure everyone else is happy, making sure that

641
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: everyone's upset. I mean when I used to throw parties,

642
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: my friends call me the most annoying person of a

643
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: party because I'd go, you have fun, I have fun,

644
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: even a good time, you have fun, you haven't fun.

645
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: Instead of going like, wait, am I having fun?

646
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't until I turned like forty eight that I

647
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: was like, I don't give a shit if anyone's having

648
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: fun at my party.

649
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm having a good time.

650
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: That is a real like shift in life as well,

651
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: because I was also taking care of my son's health.

652
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: That let my health go. So now my health is

653
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: a priority. And even when I met Donnie, I taught him.

654
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: I said, listen, one thing you're going to learn and

655
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 3: see with me is that my definition of hell now

656
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: is doing something I don't want to do. That's what

657
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: I believe hell now on earth is when you say

658
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: yes to things that you don't want to do. It's

659
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: your fault for not using your voice. So you might

660
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: see me a lot to say now, I don't want

661
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: to do that. Like there's things where he's like, will

662
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: you be my date at so and so thing? And

663
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, I love you and no, I love you

664
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: and nope, I don't want it.

665
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: But before I'd be like, okay, okay, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

666
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: yes you said at forty eight, that happened for you,

667
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: like that became clear and I honest to God, not

668
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: just to go with the same Zies thing. But that's

669
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: when it happened for me too, my late forties, when

670
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I started to really understand who I was and what

671
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I wanted and what I didn't want. How can we

672
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: do that earlier, like say, for the next generation, How

673
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: can we help younger women, maybe their mothers, maybe they're

674
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: losing themselves, like you said, in their children's health or

675
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: taking care of somebody. How do we encourage that for

676
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: younger women? Because I feel like if we had known

677
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: this younger I don't know, who knows what I mean,

678
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: would have happened.

679
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: I actually thought about that, you know, because I've written

680
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: a lot of books, and one of the things that

681
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: I've realized is when we're younger, we don't want to

682
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: listen to our older parents or older generation. It's like, imagine,

683
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: is then gen Z trying to listen to a boomer bye,

684
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: And it's almost like, and I've learned you can't learn

685
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: to drive a car if you're always in the passenger seat.

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: So you have to get in the car and drive

687
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: it and get tickets and you know, do maybe get

688
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: in a car accident review until you learn and it's

689
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: like you don't. The younger generation doesn't really want to

690
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: listen now, mind you. There are some that will listen

691
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: to the wise spiritual teachers. They might be into those

692
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: books and they'll get it. I do feel like the

693
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: younger generation is much more awake than we were, so

694
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: I do think they have an advantage there.

695
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: I do feel like there's a.

696
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: Spiritual shift in our consciousness where I can see that

697
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: they're wise beyond their years.

698
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: So that to me is more of a hopeful thing

699
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: than them actually listening to us and waking up. I

700
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: think it's more of a collective consciousness shift.

701
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true, and I see it happening with

702
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: my daughters. Maybe you see it happening with Evan, but

703
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: it is so true. I always think, Wow, you are

704
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: actually so far, so much more advanced emotionally intelligently at

705
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: your age than I was.

706
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: Completely he's so emotionally intelligent that he teaches me sometimes.

707
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so beautiful though. I mean, it's the best thing.

708
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: When they like shine that mirror on you, you know,

709
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: and they teach you something, You're like, hey, is this

710
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: is this how it's supposed to be here? But I

711
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: think it is. I think we've been through everything. We've

712
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: had so many experiences, great and bad, and we've learned

713
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: so much, but there's still always more to.

714
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Learn, always and our kids.

715
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: If you allowed your kids to be your teachers as well,

716
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: you learn so much because you can see yourself also in.

717
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: Everything that you're saying to your child.

718
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: Notice the words you're using, Notice the rules you're putting

719
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: on Noticing are you projecting your own years onto your child?

720
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Because that's what you know.

721
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: I've had to stop myself going like, wait a minute,

722
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm projecting the shit that happened to me onto him.

723
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: I do have to, right, and you have to be

724
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: very awake as a parent to learn to not project.

725
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: But we're doing it out of love and fear, you know.

726
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: And also this is our first time doing it. Like

727
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm always reminding my girls like you, guys, I don't

728
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. I've never done this before, Like

729
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: at this moment I've never done before, so please be

730
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: a little more patient with me to totally lower your

731
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: expectations Justice Midge exactly.

732
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: And then you say to yourself, I try not to

733
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: be like my parents, because you want to pair differently

734
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: than you find yourself falling into.

735
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: That same trap. But it's like it happens. It happens.

736
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: You have to forgive yourself, you know.

737
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: Like I just say, this morning, I kind of like

738
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: he wanted to go visit his girlfriend at like ten

739
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning this morning, and I was like, no,

740
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: there's a snowstorm happening right now, You're not going there.

741
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm twenty two, and I'm like, I

742
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: don't care. Girl into my rope, and then I was

743
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: Then I was apologied. I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.

744
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: I shouldn't Like if I was twenty two, I'd have

745
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: been like, you know what you could do? You can

746
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: go yourself.

747
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm going yeah, And instead we both apologize for each

748
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: other and hugged.

749
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I have to, you know, be careful.

750
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Literally last night apologized to my youngest daughter who's eighteen,

751
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: because I didn't think things through enough when I was

752
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: talking to her. I didn't you know, I didn't. I

753
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: didn't look at it from all those angles, correct, I

754
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: looked at it from like, yeah, this is my house,

755
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: you'll follow my rules. So ew I hate that part

756
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: of me.

757
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

758
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: It's big of us that we can say sorry. That's

759
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: right to feel like our egos might get trapped. Sometimes

760
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: we're like, I don't care if I shows. If I

761
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: say sorry, then they're no, no, no, I'm not the boss.

762
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, it has to be you get

763
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: so much more respect.

764
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: And I've learned they've learned to apologize. When you can apologize,

765
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: they learned to come back sometimes they've been snotty or

766
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: snooty or whatever.

767
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: To apologize, at least for my son. I noticed.

768
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: It's so so true. Okay, I want to talk about

769
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: formless beauty, yes, that you created. Did you do this

770
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: with your sister, because I know she's a makeup artist.

771
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: I didn't do it with my sister. And my sister

772
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: was so busy.

773
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: She's she moved to New York and became like another

774
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: world renowned makeup artist. And so I was like, all right, well,

775
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna dive in myself and the reason why

776
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: I did it because there's there's so many beauty brands

777
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: out there, right, celebrity boot brands out there.

778
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, do we need another one?

779
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: But the problem was I didn't have an intention of

780
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: doing it. I've gotten as I went through paramenopause, I

781
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: started getting so much shit wrong with me. Excuse my French,

782
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: but I would have autoimmune issues. I've got lee gut, candida,

783
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: silly a disease, hashimotos and teacher for oar de mutation,

784
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: just a lot of stuff and sensitivities to chemicals. I

785
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: learned so much with healing my kind of own son

786
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: going through things that I learned about toxins. So I said, okay,

787
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: you know what time to put the oxygen mask on myself.

788
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: I did a lot of healing with everyone around me.

789
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: It's time to heal me. So I said, I'm just

790
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: going to look for a super clean brand. I was

791
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: horrified and shocked that the last time the FDA truly

792
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: regulated makeup was over eighty years ago, and makeup companies

793
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: are allowed to use the word clean without any regulation.

794
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: So what they're scouting is clean is certainly not clean.

795
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: That's like saying, oh, this is vegan, so that means clean. No,

796
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: just doesn't mean you didn't use any Okay, that doesn't

797
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: mean clean. So I was like, shit, I got to

798
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: do this by myself. So I said, how am I

799
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: going to do this? Because me, Jenny McCarthy, doesn't know

800
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: what's clean and what's not clean. I don't people heard

801
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: of the Environmental Working Group. If you don't know who

802
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: they are, you guys, it's EWG dot org. They are

803
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: the gold standard in what is toxic in your laundry,

804
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: in your food, in your makeup and your skincare. They

805
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: have doctors and scientists that have done all of this

806
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: science and research.

807
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: So I sat with them.

808
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: I took a meeting and I said, I want to

809
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: create beauty brand over your restrictions that you've done all

810
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: the work.

811
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: Now, there's not that many people that can do this.

812
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: That's why when you get their stamp up of approval,

813
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: probably there's no celebrity brands. Maybe one that got some

814
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, stamps approval. They gave me a list of

815
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 3: over nine hundred pages of unacceptable restricted ingredients to not

816
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: use in a makeup company. Now that means it's a

817
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: lot harder it's going to take me a lot longer.

818
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 3: It's going to be much more expensive. We can't use

819
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: cheap cancer causing chemicals, which would make the price margins

820
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 3: a little lower.

821
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: But I didn't want to that.

822
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: I want to be able to know that I am

823
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: offering a solution for people that care about their toxic load.

824
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: So we've created this most and I am so hands in.

825
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: It's made me a new USA so I could be

826
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: next to my chemist. My chemist hates me because I'm like,

827
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: no better, Let's do it. So we formulated skincare. We

828
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: just look at them like a brag and a brag.

829
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Skin careful, your packaging is beautiful you.

830
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: And like, by the way, let me brag and give

831
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: you an example for our mescara. We are one of

832
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: the very few without hormone disruptors. Mescara is like the

833
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: second biggest offender in makeup. There's there's Foundation, and then

834
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: there's Mescarra because they use hormone disruptors and forever chemicals

835
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: in there.

836
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: So I was like, we're gonna do it.

837
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: Not only to that, we did it without paravans, without thaltes,

838
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 3: without aluminum powder, without promeldehyde, and it's freaking amazing. So

839
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: it's like things like that that I'm so proud of.

840
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: We've got chemo patients that call and be like, thank

841
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: you so much. People with allergies, people say I couldn't

842
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 3: even wear makeup anymore until I used your brand. Young

843
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: teenagers who care about the toxicityes pregnant women. So if

844
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: you have if you're sensitive to the environment, if you

845
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: care about toxicities, if you have allergies, if you have sensitivities,

846
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: this brand literally was formulated for you. I'm finding my

847
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: tribe of people. It's called formalist beauty.

848
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Yes, formless beauty. I love that it's formless.

849
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: It's farmles. You know I got the name from. Do

850
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: you know who Eckartoli is? Yes?

851
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Yes, he always I love him. He always referred to

852
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: like our soul as formless. It doesn't have form. Of course,

853
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: our human body does has form, but our soul doesn't.

854
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: So when I was trying to create the company and

855
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: coming up with a name, I wanted to put an

856
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: intention behind it to remind people, Okay, even though we're

857
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: doing the beauty aspect the external, I wanted to remind

858
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: people that true beauty, real beauty comes from within and

859
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: that is formless beauty. So that stuck with me, and

860
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: I just said, that is my intention that even though

861
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: we're doing this, makeup is just the cherry on top.

862
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: People, because real beauty does come from within. But I

863
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: love makeup. I just don't want to die for it.

864
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: So good. I mean, it's true some people probably don't

865
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: understand this, but sometimes choosing yourself is just as simple

866
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: as like putting on a little lip color or some

867
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: cheek color. By the way, I am obsessed with the

868
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: little circle. I don't know is that she can lit

869
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: and she's, yeah, dying for it. I'm so Actually, I'm

870
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: not dying for it.

871
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: You're not dying for it.

872
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm wearing it right now. I put on extra this

873
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: morning just to impress you.

874
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm so glad, thank you. And it's the ingredients are

875
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: so clean. That's what I'm saying.

876
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to get all of my kids on this too,

877
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: because as a mom, I really really worry about what

878
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: they're putting on their face, on their skin, which is

879
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: rapidly absorbed into their bloodstreams.

880
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

881
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a big concern of mine.

882
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: Daily, and you guys think about it.

883
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: Most companies will import from China because that's how their

884
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 3: margins are so cheap.

885
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: Do you think anything that one's testing over in China

886
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: hail to the no.

887
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: No no.

888
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about the hurdles that

889
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: you've overcome creating this, because it sounds like that kind

890
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: of quality control drives your price up. How were you

891
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: able to do that?

892
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: Well, you know, by following the Environmental work Group and

893
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: keeping it in the United States.

894
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: It almost impossible.

895
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: Like I even thought, there's no way I'm going to

896
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: be able to make a beauty brand under those standards

897
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: without charging people one hundred and.

898
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars for lip gloss.

899
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: So we were still a premium, higher end brand for

900
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: that reason. So I try to make it so we

901
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: can still stay upfloat and give people the highest quality makeup.

902
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm not rolling in the dough yet to make profits

903
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 3: because I take the money and I roll it into

904
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: more products because I really wanted to build it as

905
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: clean as possible. But I feel like people are willing

906
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: to pay a little bit more knowing that they're not

907
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: contributing to their toxic load. Because let me tell you, guys,

908
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: we are all having like imagine like a barrel. Our

909
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: body can handle toxins to a certain point, but when

910
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: that gets overflow, that is your immune system ds regulating.

911
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: That's when you start to see MS, allergies, leaky gut, Parkinson's,

912
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: all of those horrible things. And what especially those parabins

913
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: and those salads and hormone disruptors are the cancer routes.

914
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: So again, no one is regulating.

915
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: That's why the Environmental Working Group I'm so proud to

916
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: kind of be working with them because they've done the work.

917
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: It's what the FDA should have been doing along, and

918
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: I wish it was more regulated. Like I hope that

919
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: I can be a trailblazer and showing people that you

920
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: can be done. It can be done, and it should

921
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: be done. So let's hope that we get there.

922
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the truth is, makeup lasts a while. Okay,

923
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. When you're creating a clean product,

924
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: does it have a lot less of a shelf life?

925
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: It does so for instance, which but your mescarra, like

926
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: our mescarra is a year. You're going to go through

927
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: this probably in three, yeah, three or four months. The

928
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 3: lip gloss is two years.

929
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not.

930
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: But that's amazing.

931
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: It's great.

932
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: And like our eyeshadow is help free, which means no asbestos.

933
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, we still have a shorter shelf life compared

934
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: to you know, brands that don't care where they have

935
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: you a harsh preservative that will last ten years.

936
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: Now a shorter shelf life.

937
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: But it's still not too sure because you're still getting

938
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: value because you're going to use this stuff all the time.

939
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it so much, I'm telling you people.

940
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: And also it really irritates me when they'll create, like

941
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: kids make up a little palette for little girls, boys

942
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's full of crap.

943
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh, if you can just google the reactions that kids get,

944
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 3: it's like horrible.

945
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: And again, no one is looking out into skincare and makeup.

946
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: You were on your own. It's a wild, wild I

947
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: want to say, Wes.

948
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: But it's around the world because they're god knows where

949
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: they're getting the ingredients and no one's looking at them,

950
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: no one.

951
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: No one. You know what Jenny McCarthy is and that's

952
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: all I need to know. Formless beauty, you guys, Oh,

953
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: what are your three must have items that make you

954
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: feel put together? Like when you're not in full glam

955
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: for work, just in your real life.

956
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Does this mean is it makeup or other things?

957
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: I think let's start with makeup.

958
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: Make up, A lip gloss, A lip gloss and a

959
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: mascara I can get by my cheek and clip blush.

960
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: Gives me a little bonus because I can do this

961
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: like if I'm my friends, I can go uh ruh,

962
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 3: just even that. So mascara and a little cheek lip

963
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: blush done. I don't even need a lot of foundation

964
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: at this point because I don't want a bunch of

965
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: lines on my face. It's like, just give me a

966
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: little messcara to make me look like my eyes are open, right,

967
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 3: you know?

968
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: That's it? And then a good deodorant.

969
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: You need to make one.

970
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: I am it's coming out.

971
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: It's coming out.

972
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Here for it.

973
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: We're the same age, we've been in the same industry.

974
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: It's been all about how we look. What does beauty

975
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: mean to you? Like, what does it mean to you

976
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: to be beautiful?

977
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt having be in this business,

978
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 3: you do have to care somewhat about the external, so

979
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: you can't ignore that.

980
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: But in this age, I have learned that the most

981
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: beautiful women can appear actually ugly if they are not

982
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: beautiful on the inside. And we've and we've seen it,

983
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: you know you can.

984
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 3: There's a there's an energy that exudes you that surpasses

985
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 3: I think wrinkles, wait anything that I've seen. The most

986
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: beautiful radiating women who are not models, who are normal,

987
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: aready people that I am in awe of their beauty.

988
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: So to me, the formless beauty radiates so much stronger

989
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: on you know, on the inside than it does on

990
00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: the outside. But again, making yourself feel pretty on the

991
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: outside does help you feel a little better on the inside.

992
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

993
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we got to take care of ourselves. I think

994
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: we you know, like we talked about before, you lose

995
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: track of taking care of yourself. But just getting a

996
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: little gussied up once in a while.

997
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: Or does it makes you just lit a little bit better.

998
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: And you're right, when I have a lip gloss on,

999
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: when I have a little cheek tent on, I feel like,

1000
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I feel like

1001
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm more awake, alive, presentable.

1002
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: It's true because sometimes you wanted to reflect how good

1003
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: you're feeling on the inside.

1004
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes too, you're like you'll sometimes I'll pass in the

1005
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: mirror and I've been wearing sweats from college still in

1006
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: my hair, Like, but I'm like, wait a minute, I'm

1007
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: so happy on the inside. Let me just make the

1008
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: external reflect a little bit of how good I feel.

1009
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: On the outside.

1010
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: That is such good, good messaging. Okay, I have one

1011
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: last question for you. Yeah, yeah, Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg before

1012
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I let you go, what was your last I choose me.

1013
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: Moment, my last I Choose me? I seem to do

1014
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: them all the time, but I can tell you a

1015
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: big one. The latest big one I did was I

1016
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 3: checked into an Airbnb and I did a three week

1017
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: cleanse where I didn't want to talk to anybody, I

1018
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: didn't want social media, and it was.

1019
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: A hardcore cleanse. It was like seven days of like

1020
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: no food, you just do water. Then you do the

1021
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: next day of like green.

1022
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: Shakes, and then you have a klonic machine that you

1023
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: do all your own colonics.

1024
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was hard.

1025
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: Wait, whoa wha You do your own colonics?

1026
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: Sounded like a crazy person. But yeah, I've got so

1027
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: many gut issues.

1028
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: But they have these home kits that are amazing. But

1029
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: in the stuff that gets out of you like a

1030
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: parasite cleanse, like deep deep clean So to me is

1031
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: the biggest I choose me because I feel like it's

1032
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: going to elongate my life and get rid of a

1033
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 3: lot of the bad stuff. But you've got to be alone,

1034
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: like you you can't be because when you're detoxing, you're

1035
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: also detoxing emotions. You know, we store a lot of emotions,

1036
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: even in our fat cells and ourselves, So when you're detoxing,

1037
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: all of that's coming out when you don't have food.

1038
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of a religious sex you know,

1039
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: they they do fasting in order to get clarity, so

1040
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that happened during that time.

1041
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: So to me, it's like the best thing that you

1042
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: can do is like a once in a year cleanse.

1043
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh, this is such a good moment for you. Wait,

1044
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: if people out there are as crazy as you and

1045
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm one of them, where do we get this cleanse?

1046
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: Do you mind sharing?

1047
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: No?

1048
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, let me try to think. Cell Core has

1049
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: a great cleanse. Cell Core is the name of the company.

1050
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 3: They've got a great parasite cleanse. There's one that you

1051
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: can tie up with the full moons because that's when

1052
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: your worms come out to play, and that's when you

1053
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: kill them.

1054
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: But they to me right now, sel Core has the

1055
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: best cleanses.

1056
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 3: And then I've incorporated some of my old cleanses from

1057
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: the past with this because there isn't necessarily a water

1058
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: cleanse that goes along with sel Core, but.

1059
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: I just think it's the best on the market right now.

1060
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: Sell Core.

1061
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, you are clear minded and vibrant and glowing, so

1062
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: sign me up.

1063
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 2: Back atch your sister.

1064
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I love talking to you. I could talk to forever

1065
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: me too. We're sisters from other misters, so for sure

1066
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm always here to take your mail or to sign

1067
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: an autograph for you.

1068
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: That's right, me too. You're so awesome.

1069
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you so much for coming on.

1070
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, and thanks to all your listeners for listening

1071
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 2: to me blab. I appreciate you guys.

1072
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: They love it. They love it.

1073
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk to you to keep in touch,

1074
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: will y'all?

1075
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 1: Okay, alright, bye her Bye