WEBVTT - #98 - Dan from Dan + Shay 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.240 All right, Welcome to episode of the Bobby Cast with 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.920 Dan Smiers of Dan and Jay. Do you feel like 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:09.639 I guess the question I always wondered is do you 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.080 feel like you've lost some of your identity? Because you're 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.000 always known as one of the two people. I do 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.799 lose my last name a little bit. It's Dan of 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.680 Dan and Shay. You know what I mean, because I 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.200 never say is that even how I've never even talked 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:22.919 to you as Dan Smiers? Is that even how you 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:24.639 say that this is the first time I like it? 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.840 It's nice. It is how I say it officially. You 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.600 knowed it. Usually it's like Smears or Dan s Myers 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.400 or Dance Myers. I've had people be like, oh, Dance 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.280 Myers d n C. Meyers school because you were Dan 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.680 when you moved down here. You weren't Dan and Jay 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.360 I was. I was. I was like the really poor 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.400 guy who couldn't afford to pay his rent. Dan. It 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.040 was it was rough times for a while. That's gotta 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.120 be frustrating to be one and awesome, because there are 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.000 times two where you can lean on someone and it 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.400 goes back and forth. But to be because you're you're 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:55.640 a real life human like when you prick you bleed. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.400 I exist, I'm here, I'm rocking. I was late. I 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.680 was a few minutes later. This traffic, traff traffic gets me. Yeah, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.200 but it's ice, it's traffic. It's you just can't win. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.160 It's Tennessee, where we're not used to this. I'm also 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.480 not good at preparing either, so I'll you know, see 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.080 it'says like traffic is light, eleven minutes is your time, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:15.840 and I'll leave eleven minutes before I have to leave. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.759 That would drive me crazy. If it says eleven minutes, 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.399 I'll leave twenty one minutes. Yeah, and prepared. That's why 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.360 you're more successful than I. That's not true. My hill, though, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.840 to get up here is just treacherous and steep. I 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.800 was wondering was it bad the last few days? Terrible? 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.840 I couldn't. Luckily, I have Jeep, and I put the 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.840 jeep in for we'll drive. I've never driven anything for 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.160 will drive in my life. So I bought the Geep 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.840 because I have this humongous hill that I live on, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.640 and I knew one day with ice, so I bought 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.120 the jeep off for the big build up in this 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.600 last weekend and it were, and I tried to get 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.400 up in the two well drive first, and I thought, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.600 this is the least interesting story ever. But in my 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.360 heart it feels good to tell this story. Like I 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.480 bought this jeep for this one thing, and so I 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:54.720 I put in two well drop and I tried to 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.280 get up the hill and it wouldn't go. I was like, okay, good, good, good, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.840 good hard. That's brute. And then I put it in 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.680 four wall drive and just dominated the hill and my 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.840 my pecker got a little puffy straight straight to the sky. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.400 It was good man. I loved it. And then um, 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:10.840 but just so, there are two sides of this hill 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.200 where I live and this side over here. I don't 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.960 know which side you came up on, but there are 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.880 cars that park on the side of the road, and 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.680 I've seen other cars fall and it's in nail cars 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.600 all the way down because you can't. Once you start sliding, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.400 you're done. I almost saw it. I was. I was 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.000 working uh on my computer in the front of the house, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.000 and we've got a window there and there's people were 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.000 flying down on the street. It is completely covered. It's insane. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.880 I live in East Nashville, so Gallatin is like it 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.160 looks like there was never snow. But at my house 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.600 on my street, it's completely covered. I could ski down it. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.920 Some guy was cruising down and I mean literally it 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.240 was like fishtail and like going back. I thought he 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.080 was gonna just wreck every car on the street. But 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.280 he made it out alive. But I know that guy 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.280 or or girl whoever was driving that car when they 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.880 put up probably a guy were reckless drivers brought up 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.840 that stop sign. I was like, yeah, I got out 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.160 of that one. That was good. Have you ever been 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.519 in a wreck? I have. I broke my wrist in 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.000 a wreck here actually in town. Were in town. It 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.079 was you know the turnaround down by the convention center. Yes, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.040 that's a that's the round the circle. Yeah, you're round about. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.280 It was ridiculous. I was coming around the thing and 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:10.880 a guy just pulls out right in front of me. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.240 It was I'd still be driving my car. I had 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.239 the same car for like, you know, fifteen years, the 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.560 same one I moved down here with. And a guy 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.000 came out t bone me. Of course, no insurance, and 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.800 I tried to turn the wheel and I broke my wrist. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.920 It was you turned it on reaction. I turned it 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.120 on reaction. Yeah, when the guy was pulling out, and 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.320 it was kind of like a blessing in disguise. I 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.840 had never on stage dropped the guitar before. I was 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.520 always like the guy who strump's underwhelming guitar chords on stage. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.560 But we were on an acoustic tour. We were opening 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.640 up for Hunter Hayes, and I was like, oh, we 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.760 can't miss these shows. We're getting like a hundred dollars 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.240 a night. We don't want to miss out on that money. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.240 And uh, we didn't cancel them. We had we hired 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.320 a guitar player, got insurance actually to cover for the 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.320 guitar player to come out because otherwise, I mean, I 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.000 wouldn't be able to work. So I was running around 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.040 with Big cast On and we're like, this is kind 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.120 of cool, Like we can entertain twice the amount of 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.600 people in the same amount of time if I don't 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.760 have a guitar are So next is a headset Mike 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.360 m and that, by the way, that guitar player also 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.800 known as Eric Clapton, that's how he got a start. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.280 It is exactly. It was right, and then you know 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.560 it all happened. It was insane, but I have a 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.520 tea here. So I asked the right question, because so 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.680 when you came in downstairs, my assistant is down there. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.400 She got into a wreck today. Someone pulled out in 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.840 front of her. Their side window was fully iced over 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.600 and they couldn't see. And she's driving down the road. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:28.800 They pull out. There was no ice on the road, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.520 but because the cars are cold pulled out and boom 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.160 nailed each other. That's brutal. And so she all right, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.920 I should get on and check on her. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.800 go down a check on her. Yeah, she's good. She 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.479 didn't talk for a minute. But are you okay? I 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.520 just hurt. They're still recording up there. I just heard 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.239 you had a wreck. Now her she has a suv. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.480 It's completely smushed. It's crazy when you see metal like 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.200 that go and bend in ways that metal is not 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.400 supposed to be. And then someone just walks out of there. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.880 And both of them were okay, and it also was 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.000 it I don't know. Yeah, somewhere there are some I'm 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.960 about to throw through our town under the bus. Here 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.240 there are some bad drivers in Nashville. They are bad 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.359 drivers everywhere, It's true, but here is like especially worse. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.400 I don't know what it is. I think it's a 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.799 combination of the Southern pace and then a lot of transplants, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.440 like the Southern pace like crazy people like me who 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.280 come in from Pennsylvania and are like, get out of 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.920 the way, get out of the way. Let's like, let's 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.440 pass this guy, let's turn before the light, you know changes, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.080 and uh, that's funny. The Southern pace. Maybe that's just 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.479 the pace that I live my driving life because I've 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.440 only ever in Arkansas to Austin, which isn't really the South, 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.120 but it's still in the southern part of to Nashville. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.360 Maybe I only know the Southern pace because I've only 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.440 lived in the South. I do. I am a slow driver, 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.280 though I'm I've knocked on wood. I'm gonna ticket on 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.839 the way home. I've never gotten a ticket in my 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.920 entire life. I've gotten my my parents or somebody must 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.360 be friends with the police or something, because I've gotten 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.600 pulled over, like I don't know five or six times. 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:57.400 So we're gonna let you off with a warning. I'm 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.440 always like super polite to whenever they pulled me over. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.280 But somebody out there listening is a police officer. They're like, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.720 we're gonna get this guy's first ticket today. They're gonna 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.279 be looking for me. I feel like calling one and 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.320 on you're on the way out. He had a little 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.360 to drink at the house and maybe maybe you want 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.719 to check out passion for Lacroix. He's just that's what 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:15.960 he's drinking. I was like, Hey, you wanta water? You 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.240 definitely want to water. We're gonna go talk for now. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.000 I was like, I gotta Lacroix. W dude. So I'm 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.600 I guess I'm interested in a lot of this stuff 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.800 that was you before Dan and Shay, and I want 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.480 to get to a lot of this, especially now. And 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.360 people will listen to this for years because with podcasts 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.000 you kind of look through and pick things you like. Um, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.640 and I think people will like to see your name 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.000 and listen to this. So I want to get to 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.640 Are we gonna listen as Dan of Dan and Shay 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.240 or Dan Smiers Dan Dan, We'll get more hits. I'll 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.560 listen however you want. We can listen to Mr Smiers 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:49.320 and that's it. That's I like that. Mr Smiers though Pennsylvania, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.400 Yes so, but when you moved to town, obviously, and 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.039 people may not know the story and you've told on 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.480 the air before, but I'll have you retell it again, 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.839 just briefly. But you met Sha while here. I did, 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.800 But you moved here to do what I moved here 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.560 to be a songwriter and producer. I moved here from Pennsylvania, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.760 and uh, you know, I grew up listening to all 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.520 kinds of music. I love country music, and I couldn't 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.240 afford LA or New York even if I wanted to 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.160 move there. So I was like Nashville. When I moved 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.360 here was two thousand and ten, it was still affordable. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.720 Now it's getting a little out of hand. But for 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.640 anybody from l A or New York listening, they're like, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.280 Nashville is it's so cheap to live there with what 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.320 everybody says. I guess that's so cheap and everybody's so nice. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.880 But you moved here in two thousand and ten to 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.960 be a producer and a writer. Huh yeah. I moved 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.560 here with my buddy. We were kind of we had 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.680 actually like never really hung out in person. This is 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.880 kind of like this blind dating, let's move to Nashville 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.000 together thing. He's like still one of my best friends. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.600 Was in my wedding has a couple of cuts that 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.320 are going to be on our upcoming album and he's 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.080 he's killing it now. But it wasn't like that for 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.640 a while. Was his name is Andy Albert. He would 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.320 be an interesting guy to talk to as well, Like 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.600 he's crushing it As a songwriter. He's written a few hits. Uh. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.720 He wrote She's Got Away with Words for Blake Shelton, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.360 which was one of my favorite songs Blakes put out. Um, 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.040 I think it ruffled a few feathers when you put 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.200 that song and not to sidetrack, but that was the 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.920 only one of Blake's songs to not go number one. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.920 It was the first one of like the after thirteen 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.920 in a row because some people were irritated the song. Yeah, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.680 he was bummed. There were a few lyrics in there 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.400 that were edgy, but it's cool. I mean, Blake Shelton 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.280 is that guy. He can put out edgy lyrics like that, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.160 and I was so happy for him. We had been 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.040 like really struggling, so we moved here. Uh. We We 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.880 had a mutual friend who his name is Rohan Colie. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.280 He's now he's actually his his wife's sitting labor like 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.040 right now, he's his kid, first kid. Yeah, and we're 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.640 sitting like trying to pick what songs we're going to 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.360 record next week. Yeah, he's crazy, but he put us together. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:37.680 He was like, you guys are both trying to do 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.440 the same thing. You would this dud in Pennsylvania. Are 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.400 you in this dude? He was from Georgia and yeah, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.080 he's from outside of it. Like, I didn't move together, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.480 you just got here at the same time. Yeah, exactly. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.760 So we we connected on you know, a I AM 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.320 was still a thing. You know, we had our screen ms. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.120 I don't know what mine was like branded BOYD two 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.160 three zero nine because I like you a huge fan 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.720 and uh he's over here laugh and making fun of him. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.600 But you know, we we kind of connected on the internet. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.280 Were like, let's send some demos back and forth, and 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.280 we were like this could work. And we moved to Nashville. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.240 Found this house on Craigslist. I mean literally, this place 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.719 was a disaster. There was no heat, no a c. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.200 If there was, we couldn't afford to pay for it, 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:15.679 so we didn't even turn it on. In the summer. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.360 Would be like people are Everybody's like here to liar, 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.400 you're exaggerating, but anybody who had been to that house 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.760 was like, no, this is it was a pretty bad place. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.000 Ninety degrees in the summer and forty six in the winter. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.319 So we were struggling to get by, and we were 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.800 just doing anything we could. Like we would go I've 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.960 got a few funny stories, but we would go and 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.679 do like taste testings and like research groups. You know 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.360 what those things are, like where here's twenty dollars you 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.400 try on like ten Haynes t shirts and get up 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.400 in front of the crowd and tell your thoughts. So 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.880 we would do that or luckily like you were doing that. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.480 Yeah's how you guys make money. Honestly, I'm still on 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.480 those email lists and I'm like if if it's like 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.640 thirty dollars to go try some pizza, I'm like, yeah, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.400 I'm gonna go do that. How would you get on 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.440 the list? So you would go to the place. It 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.480 was called Nashville Research and it was like but offer 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.080 Rosa Parks. So anybody out there like struggling to make 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.240 some money, struggling to get by, that's where you go. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.720 And you get on these lists. You do one trying 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.280 to think we did one. We taste tested hard cider, 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.160 which was pretty cool. And they pay you because they 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.760 want your feedback to either improve the product or improve 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.200 how the marketing the product. Yeah, exactly. So we would 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.920 do pizzas. I mean, you know, we would know that 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.560 it was Domino's pizza, but they would say, here's random 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.640 pizza company, so and so, give your thoughts on this, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.360 and I would literally take boxes a pizza home. It 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.440 was insane. Another ridiculous. Oh dude, I can go on 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.680 for hours. This is this is crazy. So there's a 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.600 Hampton in across from Vanderbilt, you know that Hampton in like, uh, 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.040 I don't know what. There's like a Kidoba off the 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.000 twenty one over there regardless as a hotel, and there's 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.720 a back parking lot. I would go every single morning 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.520 because I couldn't afford to eat anything. I would go 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.280 in the back parking lot. I would intentionally wear sweatpants 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.040 and like dress like I was actually staying at this hotel, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.360 wait for somebody to walk out of the back door 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.440 to the parking lot, sneak in like hanging the bathroom 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.560 for a second, then walk in and eat Continental breakfast 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.720 every single morning. Wow. I had this whole plan in 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.640 my head to people like, aren't you afraid you're gonna 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.640 get caught if like the Maids or somebody you know 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.280 is like, hey, we we saw you the last six days. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.079 I was going to be like, you know what I'm 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.839 in from out of town. I'm a guitar tech for 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.839 Zach Brown Band and our tour manager. Yeah, and our 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.360 tour manager is not here yet. He told us, you know, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.240 when we arrive off the flight, just to go and 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.360 grab a little breakfast and he's gonna come check us in. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.320 And luckily it never happened. Everybody was so sweet, They're like, hey, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.480 good to see you again. You know, the extended stay 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.000 at the Hanton End, and I would take like little 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.480 boxes of rice crispy treats, you know, back to the 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.200 house and survive all day off that. So it was. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.880 It was rough. We also made fake cupons. I'm rambling 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.400 right now. It's I'm interested in this though. So you 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.959 and him both moved to town. Were you both broke? Oh? Yeah, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.680 it so? But what are you doing to make money 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.800 or not even make money? What are you doing to 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.920 make a progress creatively? We both, you know, came here 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.960 with probably like a couple of hundred bucks in our 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.440 pockets like nothing thing crazy, but you know, to pay 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.199 whatever rent we could for the first month. I mean 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.760 literally our rent was like hundred or a hundred fifty bucks, nothing, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.000 nothing insane. And I was producing demos. I you know, 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.160 I was doing Logic then I hadn't even like I 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.120 couldn't afford pro tools. I got a cracked version of Logic, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.720 which is, you know, an illegal download, and I was 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.720 just rocking on there. Didn't really know what I was doing, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.800 but you know, writers and stuff would come to town 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.600 or artists and I'd produce a demo form literally like 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.680 thirty dollars a song, and I was spending like, you know, 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.000 the same amount of time I spend making our records now, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.400 like weeks at a time doing songs and walk away 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.120 with thirty bucks. But hey, you do three or four 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.800 of those and you're paying your rent that month. So 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.000 did anyone back then, did you work with anyone that 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.800 has done anything as far as made a name for 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.600 themself in any capacity I'm trying to think. I mean, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.960 I knew Cassidy Pope. Cassidy Pope and I kind of 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.680 came from the same world. We had done, like you know, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.200 rock and pop kind of music in the past, and um, 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.920 we had a lot of mutual friends, so we like 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.439 wrote some songs together into demos and casting still a 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.000 good friend. You knew her before the boy she knew 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.400 her from Monday warped toward days. Yeah, we had a 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.199 lot of mutual friends, and I wrote some songs. I 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:07.880 got to dig back on the old hard driving and 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.640 see what I could can bring up. I mean, you 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.719 know who else played warp towards Brandon Ray? Did he really? Yeah? 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.560 He hasn't got the energy for it. He has the 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.000 greatest stories about going out and passing out flyers and 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.000 just and he would play at the eleven Am. Dude, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.840 I've got warped toward stories, so I would go out. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.840 But who are you playing with? I had a band 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.200 in high school called Transition, and it was like a 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.360 pop punk kind of I don't know, just relad singer. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.800 I was, I was and I would. I had like 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.600 long emo hair and did the whole thing. I had 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.880 no idea. This is I'm gonna send you some Pectus tonight. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.040 You knew his pop punk stuff? Have you? Oh? I 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.800 have some here? How about this? Here we go? This 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.880 is a from transition called excusable. Oh no, you got 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.400 pulled up? Yeah yeah, I got that. Every word we 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:58.160 s you have that, boy, I am so sad today 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.920 and my mama through one magazine away. It's so urgent 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.960 to it's like, right now, you gotta end everything about 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:12.599 it right now. Look at this. You guys are the 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.760 real deal. I was like fifteen years old when we 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.800 were a cold. Have you ever heard of them? Mike? 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.440 Come on, show that tattoo. You got the tattoo. You 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.000 got my signature tattooed on your arm. That's so funny. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.480 How about this one we're gonna make called Bonavo? What's 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.440 what's this one? Yeah? That Bonaventure was the band that 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.480 my buddy Andy and I who I moved here with 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.600 at the same time, started and we were trying to 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.920 like you started here. Yeah, we started it here at 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.640 that house in Nashville and we let me hear this one. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.320 Are you singing in this one? I'm not, I'm singing harmonies? Okay, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:46.440 So he's singing this one, you're singing. This is a Bonaventure. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.040 I think you're a better singer, thanks, dude. Yeah, I 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.720 really enjoy your punk pop. Boy, that's a that's a 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.480 great pop punk boys. I've got some great pop punk 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.640 ideas floating around. We've got like a lot of buddies 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.200 who used to be in that scene, like our buddy 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.320 Paul d. Giovanni. He played guitar in a band called 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.080 Boys Like Girls. He wrote, he wrote our last number 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.080 one song right in a minute, So I mean we're 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.080 going there right now. I see Paul on Twitter all 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.560 the time. Yeah, Paul b LG. I did not know 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.240 that he was the guitar player for Boys Like Girls. Yeah, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:22.040 the tall handsome guy. He wrote how Not to our 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.880 latest number one song? Yeah, he wrote Did you write 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.280 that with Adam? He did? Yeah, that's that's crazy to me. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.040 He was in that band. He's dude, he's like the sickest. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:33.960 They call him track guys, you know, and he's doing 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.880 and he's producing Jordan Davis. He's got that singles up 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.080 song on the radio right now. And I don't know. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.280 I mean, he's honestly getting calls from guys left and right, 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.360 like Keith Urban or whoever, is like, hey, we need 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.800 you to come and make this awesome, and he's just 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.280 crushing it. Did you know simple plan? Hey? Yeah, dude, 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.360 They were awesome. Their music holds up. They were ahead 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.520 of their time. They and they were Canadian. I believe 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.600 they were a Canadian. I used to play then used 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.000 to play all of our radio shows back when I 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.120 was you know, and there's still doing radio shows. I 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.880 think maybe do you remember Bowling for Sup? Hey? Yeah, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.000 we were talking about them the other day, I said, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.560 I pulled up on Spotify I was Bowling for Sup. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.600 I was like, this is the coolest idea. And they 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.600 recorded Stacy's Mom and the album cover for the single 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.840 was because everyone because everyone thought we sang this song, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.880 we actually sang the song, so they did Stacy's Mom. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.880 That's funny. I remember Jared Well, the lead singer Bowling 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.600 for Suit, Yeah, because he was from near Dallas, so 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.800 I knew him. But nine Day five was their big song, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.360 remember it was you knew that song was written by 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.240 It was written by this guy, Mitch Allen, who also 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.880 came from the pop up world. He was in a 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.560 man called SR. Seventy one and he's written like he 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.120 wrote one to Want Me for Jason Derulo. He wrote 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.520 like a bunch of hits for Demilovado. It's crazy look 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.640 at that. Yeah, here's from Bowling Suit. This was a 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.440 for a pop punk song. It became a pretty big 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.640 pop song. Yeah, this was their biggest song. How about 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.720 how about you? And you sound good as a as 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.920 a singer. I've never heard you do straight ahead vocals. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.680 When I hear you, you're doing homonies for Schet most 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:07.199 of the time. Yeah, I like me in the background, guy, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.560 now you do that? Yeah? Being the Dana Danna say, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.080 it's a little less pressure. But your name's first though, too, 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.159 so people would That's another thing I want to talk 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.280