WEBVTT - Paywalls, Libraries, and Free Media 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.760 Arned arn me arties. This is me doing a priorate voice, 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.039 which is kind of a bad a bad Irish voice. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.880 That's enough. That's enough of that. Um, Hi, welcome to 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:17.400 take it up in here the show where we're talking 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:22.040 about things that could possibly happen and or are happening, 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.920 and go your hartshitally D. I'm Carrison. Welcome to this 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.680 tech centric episode. This is very exciting with me, is 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:36.959 Chris to help us discuss libraries and piracy or permanently 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.960 pirate brained and and paywalls and all this all this 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.479 fun stuff. So yeah, we're talking about kind of free 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.680 access to information and uh, I don't know, like I 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.599 really like libraries and I think a library based economy 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.440 would be pretty cool. Yeah, you know, libraries for everything. Uh, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.920 food libraries you to take food, you know, deposit compost 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.640 um with the decent system. Got the tool libraries so 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.720 you can get you know, your angle grinders for taking 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.120 apart federal fences. You can get your you know, soldering 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.640 irons for building your f GC nines, you know, all 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.160 all of all of the basic stuff. And I guess 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.960 book libraries are cool too, um, but we already have 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.840 those and we're gonna be we're gonna be talking about 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.000 them a little bit. Where are we having a discussion 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.800 on paywalls, piracy, ar and uh and how access to 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.720 information is actually good? Um, contrary to what many people 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:36.759 want to tell you. Yeah, I know. So. Yeah. As 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:42.800 as the Internet became easier to access and information flow accelerated, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:48.000 there's been kind of questions and speculation on how physical 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.840 book libraries will fit into our increasingly digital media landscape. Now, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.160 it's important to mention that the library is also one 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.280 of the main ways for lower income people to access 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.360 the internet, um, with their you know collection of free 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.680 to use computers as well as you know, a decent 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:08.519 WiFi connection um. And many many libraries also are expanding 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.720 their scope to include stuff like maker spaces as well 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.960 as you know, their printers and standard kind of office supplies. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.320 So libraries are already kind of beyond just places to 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.639 get printed media. But of course it is that is 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.840 kind of their one that has been their main their 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.760 main premise. But you know, they've been they've been including 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.160 stuff regarding e books, computer use, WiFi access, all the 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.480 stuff has been a part of libraries for like the 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.480 past years. Um. Yeah, like it's it's not. It's not. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.240 It's not, it's not. It's not a new thing. But 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.000 I think when when people think of libraries, we just 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.000 think of books are newspapers and stuff, but it is, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.000 it is definitely more than that. Because yeah, obviously physical 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.200 libraries are mostly known for printing materials, and because we'll 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.440 be talking about pay walls and piracy are um and 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.760 and fears that access to free content will negatively impact 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.120 creator's ability to make such content, I figured let's start 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.560 by talking about book libraries, since they're one of the 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:08.280 oldest examples of providing information for free. So based on 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.560 kind of surveys and data collected from you from library 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.200 users across the country, it would seem that libraries and 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.960 loaned e books are actually a very powerful economic engine 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.280 for the book business. Now, yes, libraries do have special 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.400 deals to buy the books that they have in stock, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:29.440 sometimes they're donated. But even beyond that fact, like library users, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.680 like the fact that libraries exist for the users, either 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.080 of themselves increase book sales. Um, it's it's a it's 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.920 it's pretty fun. So even as far back as there's 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.360 been studies that show that libraries do increase book sales, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.720 now yes, this is this is this is a capitalist argument, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.040 but sometimes when arguing with let's you know, let's call 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.720 them normis um, you can convince them to agree with 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.080 a lot of kind of like anarchy leaning improvements to 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.360 the world by carefully using their own rhetoric against them. Right, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.480 this is this is like the same thing with the 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.480 giving out free drugs and having safe drug in like 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.600 intake sites, and giving your houses to homeless people, you know, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.400 all all the type of stuff. You know, all of 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.520 those things are cheaper for the taxpayer than what we're 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.520 currently doing with how we use emergencies, like how for 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.520 how we use emergency services spending. So yes, it's a 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.960 capitalist argument, but you can still kind of you know, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.560 paint someone into a corner to to agree to like 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.000 actual good improvements by using hey, this is actually cheaper, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.160 you know that that type of argument. So yeah, libraries, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.719 they do increase book sales, so that is mostly cool. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.680 There is There was a study that shows around this 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:44.680 is studying around showed that library users report purchasing books 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.039 by an author that they were introduced to through the 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.760 library system, which debunks the myth that were a library bias. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.520 Books the publisher will lose future sales. Um. Instead, it 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.080 confirms that the public library does not only incubate and 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.400 support literacy as it's you know, generally understood in our culture, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.760 but it's also an active partner with the publishing industry 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.159 for building up the book market and also including in 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.720 that is the ever growing e book market, which I 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:13.880 don't really like the books for reasons will kind of 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.760 discuss in a bit for how I kind of have 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.640 an aversion to the idea of like a digital ownership, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.359 but the books are undeniably a very growing industry that 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.760 also you know, does does support writers in a lot 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.240 of ways. Um, But I think physical books are a 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.840 lot cooler and more reliable. They are, as you can 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.240 tell by my very nice physical book collection behind me, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.880 which you cannot listen to because this is a podcast 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.040 and you can't listen with your ears unless you're on 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.640 a lot of drugs, which good luck hearing the books 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:48.960 behind me. People who listen to Yeah you too, but 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.760 yeah I'm not. I'm not talking about them. Um, this 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:57.400 is an anti people who have jug induced citnothesia podcast. Now, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:03.080 lucky bastards going to get canceled. Oh sure, Yeah, that's 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:07.480 what's gonna get me after all, Well bleep that I 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.839 can't you said that, whoa Chris just said one of 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.680 the just one of the most one of the most 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.880 one of the most horrible authors that I would never 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:23.280 be caught dead reading any of their books. Um anyway. Ah, So, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.359 the idea that like piracy and free information will like 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.960 tank creative industries, and you know, the idea that you know, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.880 just having access to free versions of media will hurt 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.880 the ability to make more of the media is definitely 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.160 proven wrong simply by the modern existence and popularity of 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.320 nu may uh in the United States, because we would 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.359 not have anime animal will not be what it is 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.400 today without piracy. Uh and uh because in the in 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.479 the specifically like two thousand's late nineties, the piracy of 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.120 anime became you know, big, a massive reason why it 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.360 is the cultural jugg or not that it is today. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.599 Over half of anime related sales revenue comes from overseas, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.640 not not Japan, comes from places like the States. Yeah, 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.600 and you know, and it's also I think worth mentioning here, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.120 like it wasn't even just that they were like pirating 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.720 the show, right, they were pirating they were getting a 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:24.800 worse version of it, oh because like you know, relution, Yeah, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.520 terrible resolutions like I mean literally like VCRs that people 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.600 had figured out how to like right like get subtitles on. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.640 Like these versions of it are terrible. The translations are awful, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:39.240 and it's still just like absolutely like just catapulted anime 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.920 from like an incredibly fringed thing for weirdos to a 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.200 thing that is also still for weirdos. But it's still 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.800 a nargely mainstream. Yeah, I'm gonna gonna take take this 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:53.560 opportunity to plug our future episode dissecting the politics of 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:58.440 attack on tited dot dot do. It's coming, folks, It's 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:04.400 strap in. So yes, what not would not be the 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.160 thing is today without without without privacy And again but 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.400 the majority of of sales revenue comes from not Japan. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:16.520 So yeah, that's that's a pretty pretty pretty clear. So 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.720 the discovery of new books and authors through the library 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.480 system um is definitely searching right now, actually specifically due 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:29.440 to e books and audiobooks being available online anytime well 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.480 like via library means. So there's like you know, there's 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.360 there's ways you can access you can quote unquote borrow 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.000 these types of things via via the library systems. Despite 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.280 them being like digital media, which again I prefer physical, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.000 but that's that's something we'll talk about later. So even 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.760 even while visits to libraries and like physical bookstores, A 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.280 pommeted during COVID nineteen digital library usage sword which is 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.559 you know that that that that that that tracks um 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.880 more than four hundred and thirty million type were borrowed 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:06.760 from the overdrive library platform alone, and it would you know, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.560 you could you could assume that this would cause a 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.480 drop in the purchasing of books during the same period, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.040 but the opposite is true. Actually, the overall purchasing of 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.880 books also rose in including an eight percent lift in 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.160 these sales of print books, despite a lot of people 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.920 being out of jobs, out of work. You know that 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.280 turns out people are boards They're going to spend money 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.120 on books because books are cool, and even when they 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.679 have access to library stuff, they still buy books. Yep, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.280 it's a it's a it's a simple truth that the 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.160 library patrons are usually also book buyers. It's it's me 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.280 I am literally surrounded by books on all sides that 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.200 they have me surrounded. I have no escape. And this 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.120 is what happens when you grow up in a library 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.760 I mean I also grew up in a library. Mean 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.480 I was, I was homeschooled. I grew up time a library. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.280 To my to, to my left, I have books on 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.920 urban exploration and Lemony Snicket. My right, I have books 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.839 on alchemy. Behind me, I have books which I should 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.400 I'll not name um. And behind me I have a 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.000 massive techo comic books of yeah, I have usually surrounded 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.240 by books. It's the books are great and you you 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.880 have them unless they burn up. You're gonna have them, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.199 no matter whether the Internet goes out, whether whether an 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.280 online provider shuts down, You're gonna You're gonna have physical books. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.560 They are they are, they are pretty, they're pretty cool. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.240 So and libraries and like, the library system offers a 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.600 really great way to discover new books, new series, new genres, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.400 or new authors before deciding whether to permanently purchase those titles. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.880 So it's it's this isn't just like an assumption used 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.640 to hype up the idea of a library. This has 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.360 been proven by lots of studies like the why I 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.319 mentioned a few minutes ago from two US and eleven M. Also, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:52.960 there was the Panorama Projects Immersive Media and Books Consumer 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.320 Survey which is a way too long. The title real Mouthful, 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.880 which found that one third of responders a book that 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.920 they discovered through the library. So it turns out you 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.679 you discover a book, you turn it and you're like, hey, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.160 that book is actually pretty good. All this by a 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.200 copy myself. I did that. I still do that all 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.040 the time. It's ah, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:19.280 a thing. So own all Star Wars books. This is 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.720 why I have a beautiful copy of Splinter in the 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.840 Mind's Eye, which I am very curious to see. Who 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.040 will get that joke. I was try I was trying 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:31.480 to think of the worst Star worst book that I have, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.760 and then you said that, I'm like, I can't. I 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.240 think I actually have that. Well, there I go, there's 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:44.040 there's two. There's two for you. Uh yeah. So in 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.520 our kind of in our like technology driven world of 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.960 like you know, wanting things very quickly, you know, instant 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:53.520 instant gratification. UM, library users are no different. Right, They 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:57.040 still have that instant gratification drive and many times they 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.520 will want a specific book and they'll be happy to 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.079 pay for it instead of waiting for at the library. Right, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.080 you can put a book on hold, await a month, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.440 or you can buy it for ten bucks. And oftentimes 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.920 people will buy the book because we want things quickly. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.080 It's According to the same Panorama Project immers of the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.880 Media and Books consumer survey, about of respondents said that 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.600 they just bought books rather than waiting for them if 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.400 they are unavailable from from the library at the time. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.079 So and it's it's it's a great system like libraries 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.959 are also frequently used just as like a really good 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.360 browsing tool. Um. You know, if you're unsure of what 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.400 you want to read next, you can go to the library, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.000 look at stuff and be like, Okay, this is what 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.120 I'm interested in, and then purchase it online or in 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.920 person at a later date. And it's not just it's 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.920 not not not not just physical books. Library users are 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.320 also are also driving the purchase e books and physical 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.559 books um and audio books. Audio books have been actually 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.120 very big at library. I used to listen to a 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.559 lot of audio books actually from the library because I 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.920 would get c d s back when those great for 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.559 road trips, back in the old days when you had 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:11.800 a c D I say with my gen z uh 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.520 um outlook yes, uh c d S classic classic. According 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.600 to the Audio Publishers Association, also known as the a 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:27.200 P A just acronym, daily audio consumption has grown seventy 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.880 one sin, which is not surprising me. Like there's there's 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.560 there's stuff like Audible and you know, big big platforms 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.360 that are are making high quality audiobook content. Uh, but 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:44.040 that's that's that's a lot in alone. Audiobook revenue grew 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.200 by sevent even though even though the number of people 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.120 who were commuting plummeted, right because a lot of people 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.320 listen to audiobooks while like driving to work. So the 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.560 number of you know, of commuting dropped in because there 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.160 was this plague. I'm not sure if you've heard about that, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.400 but they still hasn't, so you know that's true. They're 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.600 pretending it's not real. But if yeah, if if if 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.000 if you look at most if you look at you know, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.760 the the audiobook revenue, it grew despite their being much 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.840 less much less um much less work commuting. And that 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.440 was the eighth straight year of double of double digit 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.760 growth in the audiobook revenue sector. And it aligns with 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.560 other kind of digital library usage statistics. So yeah, like 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:33.080 libraries and booksellers will they work in tandem. They they 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.840 library's drive interest for content both physical and digital. You know, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.880 rising tide races, all all of those floaty things on 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:45.200 the water, um as the saying goes are that's a 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:51.720 piracy joke, everybody. Yeah, over Drive has found that when 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.000 a reader uses one or more digital library apps like 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.960 a Libby I've never heard of until I had to 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.360 research in this podcast. But once you if you use 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.960 more than one one or more digital digital library apps 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.360 you're sixty, you are more likely to increase your book 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.480 consumption year over year versus people who do not. So yeah, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.200 it turns out when you read more books, you want 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:16.920 to read more books because it's fun. It's fun. So 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.400 instead of instead of reading a book, I'm going to 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.520 give our audio listeners an opportunity right now to listen 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.760 to this carefully curated selection of ads unless they're by 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.320 like I don't know, the National Guard or whatever. So 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:44.400 here you go. Here's here's some ads, and we are back. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.320 What a lovely, lovely collection of audio treats to tickle 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:55.760 your ears. Okay you're God speaking speaking of tickling your 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.920 ears Sonic the Hedgehog. So a lot of a lot 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.560 out of the reasons why we're gonna so this this, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.560 this will make sense, I promise. Um, we're about to 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:14.240 talk about fly genetics for SSH Sonic Hedgehog. We're talking 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.800 about how like when people are allowed to like do 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.160 piracy and allowed to do like their own things with media, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.160 it actually boosts the overall kind of like the presence 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.200 of the franchise. Right, So, Sonic the Hedgehog would not 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.120 be a current cultural steak if it wasn't for fan 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.840 culture and the use of like fan games and fan 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:36.800 media related to Sonic. So the same thing was like anime, right, Um, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.160 you know Sonic Sonic fan games which were allowed to 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.320 be existed for years, which they get encouraged, are the 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.400 only reason why there's a good Sonic games right now, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.840 like Sonic Mania, which were just they just hired people 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.120 who made fan games. Um, the person who redesigned Sonic 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.800 the Hedgehog for the movie what used to make Sonic 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.280 fan comics and then got hired to make the actual 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.640 official Sonic comics. Then they got hired to fix them. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.200 They got hired to fix the horrible movie design. So yeah, said, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.920 it has been very good about like not being horrible 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.600 about like copyright stuff and trademark stuff. They've like really 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.760 encouraged it because it turns out when you when you 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.040 yourself don't make good games, you need to rely on 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.600 fans to actually make the good games so we get 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.399 So that's where you get beautiful creations like the Sonic 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.040 Dreams Collection, which is a heartwarming, nostalgic look at Sonic 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.040 through the Ages um and other great games like Sonic 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.720 Mania which, so you can compare this to like a 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.560 Nintendo who unfortunately makes good games um, but also hates 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.440 when fans make games or do like emulation or any 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.960 like ports. They will clamp down on that so fast. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.639 If you ever emulate a Nintendo game, you know, watch 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.640 watch your back, there will be there will be men 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.159 in black suits following you around, just like do you 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.399 understanding of like how far this goes? Right? So super 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.680 Smash pros and bile. This game is like maybe older 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.840 than Garrison. It is, I think I actually don't know 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.800 what that trude, but yeah, literally old and Garrison, right, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.040 this game has a still still to this day, Like 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.720 copies of this game are extremely expensive because there's an 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.760 enormous professional scene around it. Uh. Nintendo like basically was 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.600 working to actively smash them because they were they were 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.280 playing a Yeah, yeah, because they because they were playing 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.280 on like an emulated like they're playing an emulated version 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.879 of it for the tournaments because it emulated software. Yeah yeah. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:34.359 And Nintendo again, who is literally getting like millions of 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.040 views of completely free good publicity, was like, no, we 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:43.440 hate you, Nintendo will when people use they're they're like 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.800 their their content and stuff in ways that are not 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.919 not not official. And because they make decent games, they 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.239 can actually get away with that. Um Sega, that's not 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.720 make decent games that are questioning, so they have to 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.000 rely on fans doing that. But yeah, that's the reason 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.600 why Sonic is still a thing, just because fans have 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.359 have been able to you know, through through piracy, through emulation, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.439 through creating, through ucing like Sonic code to code their 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.359 own games all staffs. Is the reason why that's still 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.160 like a cultural staple that is releasing a new movie 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.600 next month. But I'm very excited about very excited about 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.160 Sonic the head shog too. It's gonna be, It's gonna be. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.160 I'm thinking, I'm thinking it could we could finally clamp 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.800 down on the video game Oscar this time. I feel it. Well, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:25.879 that's that's look this is this this, this is just 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:30.240 because Ace Attorney got robbed. Okay, createst movie of all time? 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.600 That is That is my little side bit about about 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.720 about about sega. Um. Oh yeah, I should also briefly 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.600 mentioned that Nintendo just like put literally put a guy 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.720 in prison for helping for helping jailbrate consoles like put 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:50.320 put a man in prison for this for modifying people's 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.560 software and a game console. I guess the other thing 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.159 I'll talk about is, like, I mean, part of the 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.320 reason why I really don't like digital ordership of media 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.160 is because you don't actually own the thing. You own 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.720 a license to use the content as long as the 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.040 online services active. So even if you buy a game 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.000 on you know, the Nintendo Switch store, you're not actually 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.040 buying the game. You're buying a license to use the game. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.119 But the same thing for whether you're buying media on 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.880 like Amazon Prime, right, it's it's it's it's the same 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.080 thing if you're if you're buying digital copy of it, 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.520 it's a license to use it, so you can take 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.040 you know, what Nintendo has done a few years ago 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.840 is they shut down the u we Shop channel, which 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.240 means if you bought a game and it wasn't creanty downloaded. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.639 You can now you've just it's gone. You just cannot 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.800 you cannot play it anymore because they just completely took 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.639 service down, so you don't actually you're not you're not 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.280 actually buying the thing. You're just buying a license to 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.600 use the thing. Now. They did the same thing a 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.399 few months ago for the w U Shop channel and 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.120 the three D S channel. So yeah, rip ripped to that. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.240 If you if you, if you have, if you bought 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.439 games on there that we're not currently running, then you 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.440 cannot get them anymore. They're just gone, like you can, 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.439 they're just lost, lost of time. Well and you know, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.800 and again if if you if you modified the software 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.800 the game console that you like nominally own in order 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.639 to play the games that you bought and paid for, 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.320 they will throw you in prison. Nintendo will send men 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.280 in suits to come and get you and throw you 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.120 in the prison. Yeah. Who he it's a it's a Mario. 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.040 It's a Mario joke, everybody. Um, yes, So, I mean 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.720 it's the same thing with like subscription services. Like obviously, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:23.879 if you have a subscription service, you don't own the 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.879 content you're watching. You are just getting a permission to 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.320 use it from a certain amount of time. So this 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.119 is obviously this is this is more obvious. Right, you 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.800 don't owe what's on Netflix. You just are able to 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.879 watch what Netflix has legal rights to show. But you 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:41.160 even see this thing extended to like cars like Toyota 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.720 was was trying out a program and that this may 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.679 even it may even still be active for some cars 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.680 where you need a subscription service to use the key 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.359 fob on your cars like automatic like like door locking 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.680 like fob, like you need a subscription to use that 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.360 service of it. Just like why like if you it's 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.399 it's just turning everything, it's turning everything into us to 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.720 us like a subscription service. It's horrible, like everything is 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.960 becoming a new subscription service, a new a new thing 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.600 to get your monthly payments for. It's it's it's awful, 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.560 like you don't actually buy things anymore. It's just a 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.879 subscription services and digital copies. It's not nothing is nothing 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.440 is actually the thing anymore? Yeah, it's it's it's all 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:25.000 just rent extraction and the entire economy instead of you know, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:26.840 having a thing, they figured out way, what if we 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.639 just distract rent and then you also don't own it. 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.320 The same thing was like Tesla cars you have to 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:36.119 like buy buy you know, upgrades via software that are 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.640 already built in and like subscribe to keep your car 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:43.840 running nicely. Like what it's not like No, yeah, I'm 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.080