WEBVTT - Defending America - January 2nd, Hour 1

0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, we have come in to your city.

0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Wanna way I gets and saying you a conscious.

0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Un will be desired.

0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you want a little bang in Uni.

0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I come along.

0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But the media has tamed down a little bit. They're

0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:21.200
<v Speaker 1>liking us much better now.

0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.000
<v Speaker 4>I think if they don't have to just take them

0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:25.600
<v Speaker 4>on again, and we don't want to do that.

0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Violence is never the answer. This guy gets a trial

0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.880
<v Speaker 2>who's allegedly killed the CEO of United Health.

0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.360
<v Speaker 5>But you can only push people so far.

0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:42.479
<v Speaker 4>People interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an

0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.840
<v Speaker 4>act of violence against them.

0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Freedom is back in style.

0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the revolution.

0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.880
<v Speaker 3>We have coming to your.

0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:00.840
<v Speaker 6>Going the way I get Tizan saying you a conscious Zin.

0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.319
<v Speaker 5>New Sean Hannity Show, more Me I'm the Seas information

0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:12.000
<v Speaker 5>on freaking news and more bold inspired solutions for America.

0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody.

0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.920
<v Speaker 4>This is Joe Kanca in for Sean Hannity on this

0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:21.639
<v Speaker 4>January second. It's still weird to say twenty twenty five.

0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.240
<v Speaker 4>This century is going by fast, and twenty twenty four

0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.600
<v Speaker 4>is probably the fastest year of all time.

0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you guys know me.

0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the show all the time, whether it's radio,

0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.160
<v Speaker 4>whether it's television with Sean. I am a Fox News

0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.559
<v Speaker 4>contributor and author of the upcoming book, The Greatest Comeback Ever,

0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Inside Trump's Bold, Beautiful Campaign, unburdened by what has been

0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.520
<v Speaker 4>available for pre order.

0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Now You're gonna love the cover has.

0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump, not the assassination attempt, the first one, not

0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.000
<v Speaker 4>a serious stoic picture of the forty fifth and forty

0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.240
<v Speaker 4>seven president, but Donald Trump at McDonald's waving goodbye to

0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.040
<v Speaker 4>a customer. Came up through a drive through, and I

0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.360
<v Speaker 4>can say on New Year's Eve, I was with the

0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.840
<v Speaker 4>future president and former president at mar A Lago. They

0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.040
<v Speaker 4>were nice enough, the Trump people were to invite my

0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:17.119
<v Speaker 4>wife and me to not only attend this huge gathering,

0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.960
<v Speaker 4>but to actually sit at the president's table. Malanya of

0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.880
<v Speaker 4>course was there, Elon Musk right next to the president.

0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.440
<v Speaker 4>To his right across from him, jd Vance, Vice President

0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.520
<v Speaker 4>jad Vance, his wife Usha. I could go down the

0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.000
<v Speaker 4>list as far as all the people, but you get

0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.600
<v Speaker 4>the point. To be seated at the president's table on

0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.480
<v Speaker 4>New Year's Eve, that was something special. So I just

0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.919
<v Speaker 4>wanted to thank the President and his team personally. It

0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.200
<v Speaker 4>was a night that well, let's put this way beat

0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.800
<v Speaker 4>doing like that one hundred dollars all you can drink

0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.239
<v Speaker 4>thing that I used to do in Hoboken with my friends.

0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.640
<v Speaker 4>This slightly was better than that. So and a beautiful night,

0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.639
<v Speaker 4>by the way, and now it's like twelve degrees here

0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.080
<v Speaker 4>back in New York City. So that was reality striking

0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.639
<v Speaker 4>when we came back quickly on yesterday afternoon. So let's

0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.080
<v Speaker 4>get to the big news here, guys, And that obviously

0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.360
<v Speaker 4>is twenty twenty five came in, and it came in

0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.119
<v Speaker 4>with chaos, and it came in with death and destruction

0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.959
<v Speaker 4>and just horrible to see on your screens. I'm sure

0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.760
<v Speaker 4>when you woke up on New Year's Day expecting, Okay,

0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I'll watch the Rose Bawl, I'll catch up on some things.

0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.200
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'll just kind of hang out and you know,

0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.600
<v Speaker 4>get over whatever I may have done the night before,

0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.680
<v Speaker 4>and you turn on your TV and then you have

0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.600
<v Speaker 4>to see that a mad man decided to take his

0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:36.040
<v Speaker 4>truck and drive down Bourbon Street. I was in New

0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Orleans last year for a speech, and obviously you know

0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Bourbon Street. It's like one of the first places you

0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.320
<v Speaker 4>visit when you're down there. My hotel is basically right

0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.080
<v Speaker 4>next to it, and it's not a very wide street.

0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, people can get quartered in pretty easily, and

0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.520
<v Speaker 4>if a truck gets in there, there's nowhere to really

0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.520
<v Speaker 4>get out of the way to you know, obviously protect yourself.

0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.640
<v Speaker 4>And now we hear that fifteen people, at least fifteen

0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:05.800
<v Speaker 4>people had been killed, dozens injured. This radicalized man who

0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:11.680
<v Speaker 4>was at least alleged to ISIS, he actually served in

0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:16.280
<v Speaker 4>the military here, he was from Texas. He rented a truck,

0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.600
<v Speaker 4>he put an ISIS flag on the back of it,

0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.240
<v Speaker 4>he had IEDs in the back of the truck, and

0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.400
<v Speaker 4>then even after he was done mowing down people, he

0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.000
<v Speaker 4>got out and started firing at law enforcement. Two police

0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.200
<v Speaker 4>officers were hit. They are expected to be okay. But

0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.279
<v Speaker 4>this was something that perhaps could have been prevented on

0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.520
<v Speaker 4>two levels. For starters, the red flags were there, and

0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.440
<v Speaker 4>how many times do we see this where you suddenly

0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.760
<v Speaker 4>see the social media posts of somebody who clearly has

0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:50.120
<v Speaker 4>mental issues, clearly could be a threat, and somehow got

0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:54.000
<v Speaker 4>under the radar here. And then obviously the barricades that

0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.440
<v Speaker 4>should have been in front of Bourbon Street, they were

0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.800
<v Speaker 4>in the process of being improved or built whatever language

0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.400
<v Speaker 4>that you want to believe coming out of New Orleans,

0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.719
<v Speaker 4>those absolutely should have been completed, especially in front of

0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.640
<v Speaker 4>like the number one street that you have to protect

0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.920
<v Speaker 4>that's in the French Quarter, that is Bourbon Street. And

0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:18.600
<v Speaker 4>obviously this truck was able to get around some temporary barricades.

0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.240
<v Speaker 4>Police down there were using police cars to try to

0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.760
<v Speaker 4>prevent this sort of thing from happening. We see those

0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.880
<v Speaker 4>large concrete blocks that are used or barricades I should say,

0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.760
<v Speaker 4>we see in New York City, for example, Times Square.

0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:32.560
<v Speaker 1>They're put in.

0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.840
<v Speaker 4>You're not going to get anywhere near Times Square, no

0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.800
<v Speaker 4>matter what sort of truck or even tank that you

0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.159
<v Speaker 4>have when these things are in place. And that's what

0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.200
<v Speaker 4>should have happened in New Orleans. So that's what we

0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.919
<v Speaker 4>know right now. The FBI has been all over the

0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.720
<v Speaker 4>place when it comes to this particular story. First, they

0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:53.520
<v Speaker 4>came out rather quickly before an investigation possibly could have

0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.720
<v Speaker 4>been done the right way, and said they didn't think

0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.679
<v Speaker 4>it was a terror attack, which you know, a truck

0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.960
<v Speaker 4>mows down people and the guys starts shooting at police.

0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm not you know, in the FBI or even never

0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.119
<v Speaker 4>served in law enforcement, but just as a guy watching

0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.520
<v Speaker 4>this on his couch, you come to the conclusion pretty

0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.640
<v Speaker 4>quickly that that's exactly what happened here. So then the

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.320
<v Speaker 4>FBI walks this back and says, no, it was a

0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.359
<v Speaker 4>terror attack. The New Orleans mayor actually said from the

0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.720
<v Speaker 4>onset rightly that this was a terror attack. And now

0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.640
<v Speaker 4>we're hearing, Look, we're only thirty six hours after this happened,

0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:30.719
<v Speaker 4>that the FBI is concluding that this suspect must have

0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.840
<v Speaker 4>been a lone wolf, that he wasn't working with anybody else. Well,

0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.440
<v Speaker 4>after thirty six hours, how do you really know that

0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.040
<v Speaker 4>he's dead? So he's not talking, and you don't know

0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.320
<v Speaker 4>who he may have worked with beforehand. He came from Texas,

0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.080
<v Speaker 4>he rented, he just knew right where to get to the

0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Bourbon Street and there wouldn't be any barricades there. And

0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.080
<v Speaker 4>then there were reports of IDs being found in other

0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.440
<v Speaker 4>parts of the city as well. I just think, how

0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.159
<v Speaker 4>do we know so quickly, Just like the shooter in

0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:00.400
<v Speaker 4>the first Trump assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania, thirteen July,

0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.800
<v Speaker 4>they came to a conclusion so quickly, not this kid

0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.440
<v Speaker 4>doesn't working with anybody. Yeah, I's just a twenty year

0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.640
<v Speaker 4>old who just happened to outflank the entire Secret Service

0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.480
<v Speaker 4>and local law enforcement, was able to hide a rifle

0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.440
<v Speaker 4>behind an air conditioning unit at a building one hundred

0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.680
<v Speaker 4>and fifty yards from the stage where the candidate and

0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.680
<v Speaker 4>President Trump was set to speak, and then was able

0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.200
<v Speaker 4>to get up on a building which had the perfect

0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.800
<v Speaker 4>line of sight to that stage, was able to fly

0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.679
<v Speaker 4>a drone the day of to scout out the place.

0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I could go on and on as far

0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.760
<v Speaker 4>as like the failure's there, but the fact that we

0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.160
<v Speaker 4>hear after a very short investigation, it felt like that

0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Thomas Crooks, twenty years old, once again just acted alone

0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.760
<v Speaker 4>and nothing to see here, And now if it feels

0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.000
<v Speaker 4>like this is happening all over again, nothing to see here.

0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, of course there's something to see here, But

0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.160
<v Speaker 4>for them to say that this was alone wolf a tactle,

0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.160
<v Speaker 4>do we really know that? And I think ten years ago,

0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.440
<v Speaker 4>if the FBI told me something, I believe it, I'd say, Okay, Well,

0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.119
<v Speaker 4>these guys are the experts, and these are the people

0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.200
<v Speaker 4>protecting us, and I don't think that it's politicide. To

0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.560
<v Speaker 4>a certain extent, this is before again James Comey in

0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.520
<v Speaker 4>the twenty sixteen election, so FBI was largely trusted at

0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.400
<v Speaker 4>that point. So if they told you this, you would

0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.120
<v Speaker 4>believe it. And now it's like, well, wait a minute,

0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.640
<v Speaker 4>you're saying it's a lone wolf. Thirty six hours after

0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.080
<v Speaker 4>this happened. I think a lot of people in twenty

0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.640
<v Speaker 4>twenty five are saying, I don't know if I believe you.

0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we saw the head of the FBI office

0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.360
<v Speaker 4>down there in New Orleans, DEI higher, clearly she takes

0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.679
<v Speaker 4>off her nose ring before she goes to the podium.

0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was strange as well.

0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.559
<v Speaker 4>And then we had Senator Kennedy down there of Louisiana

0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.520
<v Speaker 4>and basically he was fed up yesterday during that presser,

0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.760
<v Speaker 4>and clearly it showed. So let's play the Kennedy clip, guys,

0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.720
<v Speaker 4>And I think it's really telling that not many people

0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.800
<v Speaker 4>are truly aware of exactly.

0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.440
<v Speaker 1>What's going on down there in New Orleans. Cut goat.

0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.959
<v Speaker 6>Oh, there's just too much stuff we don't know, and

0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:03.640
<v Speaker 6>it's just mountain. But I guess my final point is

0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.079
<v Speaker 6>I will promise you this. I will, when it is

0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.440
<v Speaker 6>appropriate and this investigation is complete, you will find out

0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.200
<v Speaker 6>what happened and who's responsible, or I will raise fresh

0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:24.120
<v Speaker 6>Hell and I will chase those in the federal government

0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.360
<v Speaker 6>who are responsible for telling us what happened, like they

0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.120
<v Speaker 6>stole Christmas.

0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I believe him he will raise Hell. Kennedy is an

0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.520
<v Speaker 4>honest broker. You see him on Fox all the time,

0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.480
<v Speaker 4>and this isn't a guy who there's no bs there.

0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.800
<v Speaker 4>So I'm good that he's calling this out at this

0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.920
<v Speaker 4>point because obviously the American people deserve answers, as do

0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.520
<v Speaker 4>the people going to the Sugar Bowl that starts in

0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.200
<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes. It was supposed to be played last night,

0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Notre Dame Georgia college football playoff that's over at the

0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Superdome again, having been to New Orleans last year for

0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.000
<v Speaker 4>the first time to super Dome isn't exactly near the

0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.800
<v Speaker 4>French Quarter. It's kind of when you're coming into the

0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.280
<v Speaker 4>city right off the highway. But still, when we talk

0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:10.080
<v Speaker 4>about soft targets again, you're going to have seventy seventy

0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:14.000
<v Speaker 4>five thousand people at this game in parking lots, tailgating.

0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.080
<v Speaker 4>I would hope that security there is going to be

0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.760
<v Speaker 4>a lot better than what we saw on New Year's night.

0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.800
<v Speaker 4>So the suspect's name, by the way, is shamsud Din

0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Jabbar and he is from Texas. Apparently according to a

0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:35.120
<v Speaker 4>series of videos that we're just seeing now, he said

0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.720
<v Speaker 4>in these videos that he was planning to kill his family,

0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.920
<v Speaker 4>and he had dreams that inspired him to join ISIS,

0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.920
<v Speaker 4>and he was going to kill his friends as well,

0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.840
<v Speaker 4>But then wasn't sure how the media would report on

0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.880
<v Speaker 4>that this is somebody who's clearly deranged, Like, Okay, I'm

0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.000
<v Speaker 4>not going to kill my family and friends, so I

0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.319
<v Speaker 4>think I'll just plow into a bunch of dinis and

0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:00.360
<v Speaker 4>people on Bourbon Street instead. So again, this is a

0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.160
<v Speaker 4>very strange situation, which is probably the wrong word to

0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.400
<v Speaker 4>use here, but we need more investigation here and not

0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:08.559
<v Speaker 4>just conclude that this was.

0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:09.360
<v Speaker 1>A lone wolf.

0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.839
<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, in Las Vegas, you've all seen the video by now,

0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.840
<v Speaker 4>tesla blows up a couple of hours later in front

0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.199
<v Speaker 4>of a Trump property the Trump sign you see right

0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.599
<v Speaker 4>out of it. The tesla was built in such a

0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.640
<v Speaker 4>way where it actually contained the explosion basically to the

0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:30.559
<v Speaker 4>car itself, and Ela Musk actually spoke to authorities as

0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.120
<v Speaker 4>far as where the tesla had come from the last

0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.760
<v Speaker 4>charging station it used. For example, Tesla had all this

0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:42.680
<v Speaker 4>information and Musk readily shared that with authorities. Several people

0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.120
<v Speaker 4>were hurt in that blast, however, but there for right now,

0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.040
<v Speaker 4>from what we're hearing, they should be okay because again

0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.199
<v Speaker 4>it was only contained to the actual Tesla itself. The

0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.280
<v Speaker 4>person that carried this out actually shot himself in the

0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:02.640
<v Speaker 4>head reportedly before ignoring the explosion. And that was the

0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.760
<v Speaker 4>one person that was killed in this situation. But you know,

0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:10.640
<v Speaker 4>you see reactions online after situations like this. As far

0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.360
<v Speaker 4>as just these trolls, it's the only way to put it, trolls.

0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.440
<v Speaker 4>And I'm including like the Washington Post and the whole

0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.600
<v Speaker 4>trolling thing. All right, democracy dies in darkness. The paper

0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of Woodward and Bernstein and all those Pultzers that they've won.

0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.360
<v Speaker 4>This is the headline that they decided to run. As

0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:28.920
<v Speaker 4>far as if you just go back to New Orleans

0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:34.480
<v Speaker 4>for a second, truck rams New Orleans crowd truck rams

0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.680
<v Speaker 4>New Orleans crowd. Wappo, was this a self driving truck?

0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.120
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean the truck just did it? Was

0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.200
<v Speaker 4>there someone in the truck?

0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps?

0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean that that headline is intentional. I'm sorry you

0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.000
<v Speaker 4>have all these editors. You know, I'm a writer. I've

0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.520
<v Speaker 4>written three books. I've written hundreds of columns and stories,

0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.800
<v Speaker 4>whether it be news reports, media reports for The Hill,

0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.520
<v Speaker 4>for other publications like The New York Post where coming

0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.880
<v Speaker 4>out in literally like two hours, I think at this point.

0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.040
<v Speaker 4>But the point is that when you see truck rams

0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.120
<v Speaker 4>New Orleans crowd, that if you're teaching a class in

0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.960
<v Speaker 4>media bias, is the top of your syllabus for the

0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.280
<v Speaker 4>class that's called the bias of omission. All right, terrorist

0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Rams New Orleans crowd, not truck, because truck implies that

0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.760
<v Speaker 4>the truck was out of control and the truck just

0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.520
<v Speaker 4>happened to do it without anybody behind the wheel. So

0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.640
<v Speaker 4>that was just, you know, beyond disgusting to see that

0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.400
<v Speaker 4>particular headline. And then obviously there's this guy named Ron

0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:38.040
<v Speaker 4>philip Kowski, and he is one of those people that

0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.120
<v Speaker 4>has probably stage five TDS, which you know, if you

0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.440
<v Speaker 4>have stage five TDS for for more than four hours,

0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:45.640
<v Speaker 4>definitely see your psychiatrist.

0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>But in this case, this clown puts up a photo.

0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.240
<v Speaker 4>And now we're going back to Las Vegas for a

0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.200
<v Speaker 4>moment of the tesla that blew up, and again the

0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:59.280
<v Speaker 4>suspect also former army served in the same base as

0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.000
<v Speaker 4>the suspect that carried out the New Orleans attack. So coincidence,

0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.880
<v Speaker 4>that's a little bit. That's a little bit too much.

0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Of a coincidence.

0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.120
<v Speaker 4>But they're saying they're completely separately, says what authorities are

0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.160
<v Speaker 4>saying for now. And Philipowski says this in this particular tweet.

0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.280
<v Speaker 4>And this is like three hours after again, dozens of people,

0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean several people injured, one person obviously who carried

0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.560
<v Speaker 4>it out dead and a burning tesla in front of

0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.400
<v Speaker 4>a Trump property, a real photo and a perfect metaphor

0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.720
<v Speaker 4>heading into twenty twenty five. And literally it's a picture

0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.760
<v Speaker 4>of the tesla on fire, a person burning to death

0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.120
<v Speaker 4>inside of it, and then a picture of the Trump

0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.680
<v Speaker 4>property and the Trump logo prominently featured, a real photo

0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 4>and a perfect metaphor heading into twenty twenty five. This

0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.560
<v Speaker 4>guy's celebrating terrorism for a cheap laugh. But that's the

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.360
<v Speaker 4>type of thing that we see here. It's the same

0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 4>thing with this Luigi Mangioni. I could not believe that

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.560
<v Speaker 4>when that CEO of United Healthcare, a father of two,

0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.520
<v Speaker 4>a guy about my age husband gets shot in the

0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.320
<v Speaker 4>back and killed. And then what do we see for

0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.920
<v Speaker 4>the next week. We hear from Jimmy Kimmel, the insufferable

0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Kimmel or CNN how hot the shooter was. I mean,

0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.040
<v Speaker 4>we're sick as a society. I mean, social media does

0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.960
<v Speaker 4>not help things because we got to read every inane

0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.080
<v Speaker 4>thought from every inane person down there.

0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's where we are.

0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.800
<v Speaker 4>It's January second, and already we have several of these

0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.560
<v Speaker 4>horrible incidents happening. And we're now eighteen days from Donald

0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Trump and his inauguration and him becoming the forty seven president.

0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.520
<v Speaker 4>And quite frankly, I think for most Americans, even many Democrats,

0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.360
<v Speaker 4>that day cannot come soon enough. Your phone number eight

0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.600
<v Speaker 4>hundred nine to four to one, Sean eight hundred ninety

0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.480
<v Speaker 4>four to one, Sean Sea n your calls coming up next.

0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.080
<v Speaker 4>This is Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity, back with

0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.240
<v Speaker 4>more in just a moment.

0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everybody.

0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.520
<v Speaker 4>This is Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity, The Sean

0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.680
<v Speaker 4>Hannity Show. I hope you had a tremendous New Year's Eve,

0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.560
<v Speaker 4>wherever that may have happened. I think one of the

0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 4>best parts of New Year's even I couldn't see it

0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.680
<v Speaker 4>because you know, I was at the aforementioned party that

0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.360
<v Speaker 4>I was telling about before at mar A Lago for

0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:10.600
<v Speaker 4>my book. But you had on a comedian that would

0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:16.440
<v Speaker 4>joined Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen in that ridiculous New

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Year's Eve show that they have on CNN where you know,

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.400
<v Speaker 4>they they drink and make fools themselves, and you know,

0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.560
<v Speaker 4>whenever they do a shot, they always have these like

0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.480
<v Speaker 4>horrible reactions to them, as if it's like the first

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.200
<v Speaker 4>time they ever like put alcohol into their system. Well,

0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 4>at one point they had a comedian on I want

0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.680
<v Speaker 4>to say her name was Whitney Cummings, and she made

0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:40.280
<v Speaker 4>like some tremendous jokes at CNN's expense, as far as

0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:44.320
<v Speaker 4>propping up Biden, propping up Kamala, like doing all of

0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.800
<v Speaker 4>these things and talking about how basically they have more

0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 4>employees now than they have actual viewers. And this was

0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.120
<v Speaker 4>happening on CNN, like right to Anderson Cooper's face. We're

0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.480
<v Speaker 4>gonna try to get that clip for you when we

0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.320
<v Speaker 4>come back, but it's one of the greatest things you'll

0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:57.720
<v Speaker 4>ever hear.

0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Given where it happened.

0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.520
<v Speaker 4>This is Joe knca in for Sean Hannity, got some

0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.680
<v Speaker 4>great guests coming up for you today. Stick around, Hey,

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.520
<v Speaker 4>welcome back everybody. Eight hundred and nine to four one

0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.120
<v Speaker 4>Sean eight hundred ninety four to one Sean. To steal

0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.960
<v Speaker 4>a line from the late great Rush Limbaugh, it is

0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 4>open line, not Friday. Okay, we're gonnadjust her a little bit.

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.080
<v Speaker 4>It is Thursday. It's weird right this week, like the

0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.120
<v Speaker 4>last two and a half weeks because Christmas, Christmas Eve,

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.640
<v Speaker 4>hanka New Year's, New Year's.

0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Eve have fallen in the middle of the week.

0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.959
<v Speaker 4>When those events are over, like the day after Christmas,

0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.440
<v Speaker 4>you don't quite know what day it is, like, oh yeah,

0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.239
<v Speaker 4>it's Thursday, or it's is it Friday? Is at much

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.800
<v Speaker 4>like everything's kind of blending in the one But people

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.240
<v Speaker 4>got a lot of time off, right If you're not

0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 4>back yet to work. I know a lot of people

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.720
<v Speaker 4>are not back to work today. Might as well just

0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.159
<v Speaker 4>go through the weekend another four days. You got one

0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.439
<v Speaker 4>of the longest breaks probably ever, So I hope you

0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.320
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed it. We all work hard and we all deserve

0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 4>our time off. So eight hundred ninety four one Sewan,

0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.440
<v Speaker 4>it is open line. Friday, I do want to bring

0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 4>in our first VIP guest. We haven't spoken in a while,

0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Lord. You are an author at The American Spectator

0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 4>and the host of Word of the Lord. I love that,

0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.760
<v Speaker 4>and you take us through the life and times at

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.679
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy Carter, which I want to talk to you about

0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 4>real fast, but just want it because I promised this

0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 4>to our listeners. Jeff, what happened on CNN on New

0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Year's Eve this time round was absolutely glorious because instead

0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.640
<v Speaker 4>of us watching Don Lemmon get overserved in the most

0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 4>annoying and sufferable way possible, we had Whitney Cummings, who's

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 4>a great comedian, just go off on CNN. On CNN, so,

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.320
<v Speaker 4>as a former CNN guy, I thought you would appreciate

0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.520
<v Speaker 4>this roast. Let's play the Whitney Cummings clip to Anderson

0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Cooper and Andy Cohen got I love going around.

0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.040
<v Speaker 2>The country because you see that Americans really are more

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.480
<v Speaker 2>reasonable than they would be portrayed. ABS pretty great, and

0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing bigger and bigger venues now. I thought being

0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.879
<v Speaker 2>a mom would mean that less people want to come

0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.680
<v Speaker 2>see me. I'm not playing like three thousand feet Peter

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.520
<v Speaker 2>asked me about the viewership of CNN these days, not

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.920
<v Speaker 2>this show. Die'm all on this show. Twenty four election

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.040
<v Speaker 2>fried our brains. The Democrats couldn't hold a primary because

0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.240
<v Speaker 2>they were too busy holding a body up right, Oh

0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.399
<v Speaker 2>are we still rolling on my off rove for it?

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.040
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing that the pro choice party didn't give

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 2>their voters one When it came to the presidential candidate.

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Toma was forced on us so hard. You think she

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.200
<v Speaker 2>was patented by Vizor for Maderno, which everyone's said, oh god,

0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:31.399
<v Speaker 2>and he just gave me a.

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Very scary look.

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean that fifty seconds is some of the best

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 4>programming CNN has had, probably since like the Persian Gulf War.

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 2>JA.

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 3>Having spent so much time there, I got to know

0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 3>and be friends with. I maybe the only person in

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 3>America who's friends with both Sean Hannity and Anderson Cooper.

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.960
<v Speaker 3>One of the things I've learned with working with Anderson

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 3>is he is a master of the poker face. And

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I was watching you know, this sort of thing as

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.120
<v Speaker 3>this incident, and I kept looking in Anderson and I said, yeah,

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.640
<v Speaker 3>you still come to your porker face. But what he's

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.199
<v Speaker 3>really thinking is Oh my god, will she stop?

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 4>Because Okay, you're live. It's not like get dumped out

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.879
<v Speaker 4>or it's a pre tay to get edited out. You know,

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.639
<v Speaker 4>that's live and that usually, and I'm not exaggerating here,

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 4>their New Year's Eve broadcast is probably their highest rated

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:22.760
<v Speaker 4>broadcast of the year. Now that's not saying a lot,

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 4>because the network is only averaging three hundred and fifty

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 4>thousand viewers a day, which is you know, if I'm

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 4>doing a math on that, that's seven thousand viewers on

0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 4>average per state, which is really hard to do for

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.200
<v Speaker 4>a network that's in ninety five million homes.

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>But that's what's happened to see.

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.120
<v Speaker 4>And you know, if we could just recount real quick

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 4>before we discussed Jimmy Carter for a bit, and obviously

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 4>these terrorttacks that I wanted to talk to you about

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 4>as well, But the way you were fired, I think

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of it bears repeating because I think

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 4>it was one of the most classless things I have

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.680
<v Speaker 4>ever heard. You were coming from Pennsylvania going into do

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 4>a hit that's basically like a segment where you're you're

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.200
<v Speaker 4>interviewed or you're on a panel, debating people, and you're

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 4>in the car for like a good hour, and what

0:20:58.840 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 4>happens next.

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got this call and I'm literally on the

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Jersey Turnpike, within sight of the skyline of New York

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm beyond that night and I get a call

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 3>from CNN telling me that I have been fired. And

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.239
<v Speaker 3>the reason for my firing was, of course, I had

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:23.159
<v Speaker 3>managed to upset the people at Media Matters and campaigning

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 3>for my firing for months on end, just about all

0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.880
<v Speaker 3>the time I was there, they wanted me off the air,

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I didn't go along with a far

0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:39.159
<v Speaker 3>left anti Trump doctrine that they pushed. And finally, you know,

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I said something on a tweet, I think, and reminded

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.159
<v Speaker 3>them of their of their behavior, and they didn't like it,

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.679
<v Speaker 3>and that was that was it. And I remember at

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 3>one point earlier on Jeff Sucker, who was the President's

0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>CNN said to me after an appearance, he said, well,

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm protecting you, right, And I thanked him

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 3>and everything, But I thought quietly to myself, why in

0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the world do I need protection? You know what? The

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 3>deal here, and the obvious deal was they didn't like

0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, and I had just as things had evolved

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 3>in sort of natural form as the campaign of twenty

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.120
<v Speaker 3>sixteen took shape, I had evolved into being a defender

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 3>of Donald Trump, and a lot of the CNN Times

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.200
<v Speaker 3>did not like it and were campaigning to get me fired,

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and finally they did it. But you know, Selvi, I

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 3>have long since learned my lesson about the liberal media

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 3>as of you. And by the way, I just want

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.560
<v Speaker 3>to give you a congratulations. I was reading your New

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 3>York Post column from the other day that about me

0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 3>twenty four was a year of gaslighting and the worst

0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:58.360
<v Speaker 3>media lies, bingo.

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Everything on Biden's health, right on Kamala's record. I mean,

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 4>it wrote itself. I mean, that wasn't a hard one

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 4>to write at all. But yeah, that's gotten some acclaims.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 4>So I appreciate that. I just love how Jeff Zucker

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 4>was the president of that network and he has to

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.239
<v Speaker 4>protect you. Well, you're the president of the network, are

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you the one who ultimately decides who is hired and fired?

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 4>So I just found that it sounded very soprano like

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 4>to me, you know, like, you know, I just thought

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 4>it was a whole ball wrong. They did the same

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.399
<v Speaker 4>thing to our friend Mary Catherine ham right, they hire her,

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 4>and then she was so effective on the air that

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 4>they didn't fire They just kept her off the air

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 4>for two years and just let her, you know, run

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 4>out our contract. And now Fox is lucky enough to happen.

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 4>So we're happy about that. But enough about the media business.

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Who wants to talk about these clowns. I do want

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 4>to talk about Jimmy Carter his passing. Obviously, you are

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 4>probably like one of the best people to go to

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 4>for him. When I was I got called on to

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Fox to talk about Carter, and my basic conclusion on

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 4>him in terms of legacy was that there's two legacies.

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 4>There is of his presidency, which was one of the

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 4>worst of our lifetimes. If you just want to look

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 4>at you know, the fact that his approval writing was

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 4>thirty four percent when he left office, that we had

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 4>inflation above thirteen percent, Iran hostage crisis, we boycott the

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Moscow Olympics in nineteen eighty, which was profoundly unpopular, and

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 4>he lost forty four states. So it's not like a

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 4>personal thing because I was barely alive when Carter was president.

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 4>But you look at the numbers and you read about

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 4>it and you're like, all right, not a good presidency

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 4>at all, one termer. But as a person what he

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 4>did as far as his work with habitat with humanity,

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 4>for example, in building homes, not just writing a check

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 4>but actually putting the work in. That's why his approval

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 4>went to nearly sixty percent and he eventually won a

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Nobel Prize as well. So post presidency, Jimmy Carter's you know,

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 4>at least the perception from the public was far better

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.160
<v Speaker 4>than when he was actually president. Yeah.

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And as saying, you know, I went on to

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 3>work for President Reagan, who wouldn't have been there, I

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 3>sometimes think had it not been for Jimmy Carter. Yeah,

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 3>because Jimmy Carter was so unpopular. And I mean I

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 3>vividly remember you know, you go to the gas station

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and you have to wait in line for about an

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 3>hour to fill up your tank, and then when you

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>got there to fill up your tank, you were told

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't fill it up. There was a limit on

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 3>how much gas you could pump into your tank.

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 4>And wasn't it odd even license plates as well, like

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 4>on certain days you could only get gas, that's right, Yea.

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 3>They set up this whole regiment and all this kind

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 3>of thing, you know. And I thought at the time,

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 3>this is not going to go over well with the

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>American people, And sure enough, you know, we got to

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 3>And I remember what was amusing to me was in

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy six I had been involved in the four

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Dole campaign here in what became the Ford Dole campaign

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 3>here in Pennsylvania. And I remember going to the convention,

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 3>which was a showdown between then President Ford and then

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 3>former Governor Reagan, and I remember all my political elders

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>in the Pennsylvania delegation, people of some prominence here in

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 3>the state, telling me that we had to be for

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Ford because Reagan could never carry Pennsylvania. Well, we got

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 3>to the fall campaign and Ford lost to Pennsylvania. And

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 3>years later they tried to make the same argument, this

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 3>time when he was running for Reagan was running against

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 3>George H. W. Bush, and he got the nomination, and

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 3>as you pointed out, not only did he carry Pennsylvania,

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 3>he carried forty four states. It was a landslide. And

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 3>four years later, when I had the opportunity to be

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 3>involved in the Reagan Bush reelection campaign, he carried forty

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 3>nine states.

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Could have carried a fifty.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 4>I understand like he could a campaigned in Minnesota and

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 4>probably would have tipped that state, but he's like, like,

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to embarrass the guy completely by making

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 4>him lose his home state.

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And then was Walter Mondale course.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Discussed at the time, and he was such a decent guy.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 3>So what we settled on was sending him to do

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 3>a rally in Fargo, North Dakota, where the television channel

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 3>reaches into Minnesota. But he didn't go into Minnesota. Oh wow,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 3>So Walter Mondale, by a fairly narrow margin at that,

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 3>wound up carrying his home state of Minnesota.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 4>Where would you rank Mondale, for example and Carter against

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 4>the Kamala Harris campaign that we just witnessed, Is she

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 4>the worst candidate we have ever seen? Because I can't

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 4>think of one who had less authenticity, more flip flops,

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 4>and just in general would just say anything to get

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 4>elected and had zero political instincts. Because when you choose

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 4>that goofy eighties sitcom Dad, that is Tim Walls out

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 4>of the aforementioned Minnesota over somebody like Josh Shapiro from

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 4>a state that you need and Shapiro's at something like

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>sixty something percent approval.

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>The instincts weren't there.

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 4>Again, she was profoundly awkward when she was outside of

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 4>a teleprompter, and you couldn't believe any position that she

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 4>had because it was etcha sketch. So is she the

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 4>worst candidate of our lifetimes up until this point?

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she is certainly one of them. You know, Herbert Hoover,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Carter's style. Jimmy Carter, though, was pretty effective in

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seven, but the magic was surely gone by the

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 3>time he was running for reelection. And yeah, the one

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 3>caution I would throw up here is she being from California.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was a kid that Richard Nixon

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>tried to come back two years after losing the JFK

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and he ran for governor of California, lost and gave

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 3>this press conference in which he lashed out at the

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 3>media of the day and said, well, you know, gentlemen,

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 3>I can assure you one thing, you won't have Nixon

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 3>to kick around anymore. Years later, he gets elected president. Yeah,

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 3>events can change. And I would caution, I mean, it

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't surprise me in the least if she ran and

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 3>got elected as governor at California. I think there's more

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 3>to play out with this thing here. So I don't

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 3>want to get lulled into asaying that well, she's done,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 3>she's done for the moment. But who knows.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 4>And we're talking to Jeff Flordi of course as an

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 4>author of The American Spectator and host of Word of

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 4>the Lord. So if it isn't Kamala, because this time

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 4>she'd have to go through in this time, it's twenty

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>twenty eight. Trump is't even an office yet, we're going

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>four years later.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>But that's what we do here.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 4>I guess you know, she still have to go through

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 4>a primary, which she didn't have to this time the

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 4>nomination was handed to her. Who would be her biggest challenger?

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 4>You think on the Democratic side? Would it be Shapiro

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 4>because there's an anti Semitic problem within the Democratic Party

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>that may prevent him from getting the nomination, Or is

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 4>it somebody that we're not really discussing right now that

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 4>may be on your radar.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 3>No, I think avenuwsom, But I as a Pennsylvanian, I

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>have to say I think Josh Shapiro could give her

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>a real run for the nomination. I've met him once

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 3>or twice here at various events and seeing him, you know,

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 3>do his campaign thing.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 6>Here.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 3>We have something in Pennsylvania known as the Pennsylvania Society,

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 3>which was started literally about a century and a quarter

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 3>ago by some sort of fascinating some wealthy Pennsylvania businessman

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 3>who worked in New York who started this business of

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 3>gathering Pennsylvanians from around the state to come to New

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 3>York the second weekend in December every year. So this

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 3>has become a big deal. And the Governor of the

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Moment that was there and obviously there a Governor Shapiro

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>was there. I had a chance to talk with him.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I think, I mean, it was pretty clear to me

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 3>from the speech he gave that he is thinking seriously

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>about twenty twenty eight. So don't underestimate him, is my advice,

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>because he's done pretty amazingly here.

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think he would

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>be the biggest threat to a JD. Vance.

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 4>I believe would get the nomination for the Republican Party

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 4>if Trump's presidency is successful, and there's no reason to

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 4>believe that will not happen.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Jeff.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, the tell him that we got to go, but hey,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 4>we appreciate you joining us. I hope you had a

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 4>great New Year's Eve and have a happy twenty twenty five.

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a great one.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Now the recovery, take down the Christmas.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Street, Yeah, all on the lights.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna take me days. I know the feeling man,

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 4>So thank you. Jeff enjoined Pennsylvania. This is Joe concha

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 4>in for Sean Hannity, eight hundred nine to four to one. Shawn,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 4>your calls coming up next.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back everybody. Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity. The

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>book once again.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 4>You can pre order it now, the greatest comeback ever

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 4>inside Trump's big, beautiful campaign, unburdened by what has been

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 4>get it anyway. This is interesting and disturbing, and again

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 4>there are no coincidences. I think Freud said that once.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 4>The suspects in yesterday's attacks on Bourbon Street in New

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Orleans and Trump Tower in Las Vegas both served it

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 4>for prag. Okay, we know that, but the same military base,

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 4>and we're talking about brag here. Ryan Ruth visited that

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 4>military base one hundred times before attempting to take Donald

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Trump's life. Now, remember he was the second assassin who

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 4>had the snipe paper's nest. Remember that at Trump International

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 4>down near Mar A Lago, and without a Secret Service

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 4>agent spotting him in the bushes, he probably would have

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 4>taken Trump out because there's no cover. He had a

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 4>clear shot right on a green. So why did Ryan

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Ruth visit for Bragg and those were the suspects. That's

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 4>where they actually served in both Bourbon Street and Las Vegas.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Makes no sense. Back with more in a moment,