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Speaker 4: People interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the revolution.

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Speaker 4: This is Joe Kanca in for Sean Hannity on this

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Speaker 4: January second. It's still weird to say twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: This century is going by fast, and twenty twenty four

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Speaker 4: contributor and author of the upcoming book, The Greatest Comeback Ever,

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, not the assassination attempt, the first one, not

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Speaker 4: New Year's Eve, that was something special. So I just

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Speaker 4: This is Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity, The Sean

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Speaker 4: to our listeners. Jeff, what happened on CNN on New

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Speaker 2: The country because you see that Americans really are more

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Speaker 3: One of the things I've learned with working with Anderson

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Speaker 4: Everything on Biden's health, right on Kamala's record. I mean,

436
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Speaker 4: it wrote itself. I mean, that wasn't a hard one

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Speaker 4: to write at all. But yeah, that's gotten some acclaims.

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate that. I just love how Jeff Zucker

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Speaker 4: was the president of that network and he has to

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Speaker 4: protect you. Well, you're the president of the network, are

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Speaker 4: you the one who ultimately decides who is hired and fired?

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Speaker 4: So I just found that it sounded very soprano like

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Speaker 4: to me, you know, like, you know, I just thought

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Speaker 4: it was a whole ball wrong. They did the same

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Speaker 4: thing to our friend Mary Catherine ham right, they hire her,

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Speaker 4: and then she was so effective on the air that

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Speaker 4: they didn't fire They just kept her off the air

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Speaker 4: for two years and just let her, you know, run

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Speaker 4: out our contract. And now Fox is lucky enough to happen.

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Speaker 4: So we're happy about that. But enough about the media business.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to talk about these clowns. I do want

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Speaker 4: to talk about Jimmy Carter his passing. Obviously, you are

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Speaker 4: probably like one of the best people to go to

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Speaker 4: for him. When I was I got called on to

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Speaker 4: Fox to talk about Carter, and my basic conclusion on

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Speaker 4: him in terms of legacy was that there's two legacies.

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Speaker 4: There is of his presidency, which was one of the

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Speaker 4: worst of our lifetimes. If you just want to look

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Speaker 4: at you know, the fact that his approval writing was

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Speaker 4: thirty four percent when he left office, that we had

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Speaker 4: inflation above thirteen percent, Iran hostage crisis, we boycott the

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Speaker 4: Moscow Olympics in nineteen eighty, which was profoundly unpopular, and

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Speaker 4: he lost forty four states. So it's not like a

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Speaker 4: personal thing because I was barely alive when Carter was president.

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Speaker 4: But you look at the numbers and you read about

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Speaker 4: it and you're like, all right, not a good presidency

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Speaker 4: at all, one termer. But as a person what he

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Speaker 4: did as far as his work with habitat with humanity,

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Speaker 4: for example, in building homes, not just writing a check

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Speaker 4: but actually putting the work in. That's why his approval

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Speaker 4: went to nearly sixty percent and he eventually won a

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Speaker 4: Nobel Prize as well. So post presidency, Jimmy Carter's you know,

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Speaker 4: at least the perception from the public was far better

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Speaker 4: than when he was actually president. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as saying, you know, I went on to

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Speaker 3: work for President Reagan, who wouldn't have been there, I

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Speaker 3: sometimes think had it not been for Jimmy Carter. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because Jimmy Carter was so unpopular. And I mean I

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Speaker 3: vividly remember you know, you go to the gas station

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Speaker 3: and you have to wait in line for about an

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Speaker 3: hour to fill up your tank, and then when you

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Speaker 3: got there to fill up your tank, you were told

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Speaker 3: you couldn't fill it up. There was a limit on

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Speaker 3: how much gas you could pump into your tank.

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Speaker 4: And wasn't it odd even license plates as well, like

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Speaker 4: on certain days you could only get gas, that's right, Yea.

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Speaker 3: They set up this whole regiment and all this kind

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Speaker 3: of thing, you know. And I thought at the time,

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Speaker 3: this is not going to go over well with the

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Speaker 3: American people, And sure enough, you know, we got to

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Speaker 3: And I remember what was amusing to me was in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six I had been involved in the four

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Speaker 3: Dole campaign here in what became the Ford Dole campaign

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Speaker 3: here in Pennsylvania. And I remember going to the convention,

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Speaker 3: which was a showdown between then President Ford and then

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Speaker 3: former Governor Reagan, and I remember all my political elders

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Speaker 3: in the Pennsylvania delegation, people of some prominence here in

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Speaker 3: the state, telling me that we had to be for

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Speaker 3: Ford because Reagan could never carry Pennsylvania. Well, we got

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Speaker 3: to the fall campaign and Ford lost to Pennsylvania. And

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Speaker 3: years later they tried to make the same argument, this

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Speaker 3: time when he was running for Reagan was running against

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Speaker 3: George H. W. Bush, and he got the nomination, and

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Speaker 3: as you pointed out, not only did he carry Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: he carried forty four states. It was a landslide. And

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Speaker 3: four years later, when I had the opportunity to be

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Speaker 3: involved in the Reagan Bush reelection campaign, he carried forty

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Speaker 3: nine states.

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Speaker 1: Could have carried a fifty.

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Speaker 4: I understand like he could a campaigned in Minnesota and

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Speaker 4: probably would have tipped that state, but he's like, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to embarrass the guy completely by making

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Speaker 4: him lose his home state.

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Speaker 1: And then was Walter Mondale course.

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Speaker 3: Discussed at the time, and he was such a decent guy.

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Speaker 3: So what we settled on was sending him to do

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Speaker 3: a rally in Fargo, North Dakota, where the television channel

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Speaker 3: reaches into Minnesota. But he didn't go into Minnesota. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: So Walter Mondale, by a fairly narrow margin at that,

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Speaker 3: wound up carrying his home state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Where would you rank Mondale, for example and Carter against

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Speaker 4: the Kamala Harris campaign that we just witnessed, Is she

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Speaker 4: the worst candidate we have ever seen? Because I can't

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Speaker 4: think of one who had less authenticity, more flip flops,

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Speaker 4: and just in general would just say anything to get

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Speaker 4: elected and had zero political instincts. Because when you choose

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Speaker 4: that goofy eighties sitcom Dad, that is Tim Walls out

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Speaker 4: of the aforementioned Minnesota over somebody like Josh Shapiro from

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Speaker 4: a state that you need and Shapiro's at something like

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Speaker 4: sixty something percent approval.

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Speaker 1: The instincts weren't there.

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Speaker 4: Again, she was profoundly awkward when she was outside of

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Speaker 4: a teleprompter, and you couldn't believe any position that she

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Speaker 4: had because it was etcha sketch. So is she the

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Speaker 4: worst candidate of our lifetimes up until this point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she is certainly one of them. You know, Herbert Hoover,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter's style. Jimmy Carter, though, was pretty effective in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seven, but the magic was surely gone by the

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Speaker 3: time he was running for reelection. And yeah, the one

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Speaker 3: caution I would throw up here is she being from California.

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Speaker 3: I remember when I was a kid that Richard Nixon

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Speaker 3: tried to come back two years after losing the JFK

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Speaker 3: and he ran for governor of California, lost and gave

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Speaker 3: this press conference in which he lashed out at the

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Speaker 3: media of the day and said, well, you know, gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: I can assure you one thing, you won't have Nixon

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Speaker 3: to kick around anymore. Years later, he gets elected president. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: events can change. And I would caution, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me in the least if she ran and

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Speaker 3: got elected as governor at California. I think there's more

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Speaker 3: to play out with this thing here. So I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get lulled into asaying that well, she's done,

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Speaker 3: she's done for the moment. But who knows.

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Speaker 4: And we're talking to Jeff Flordi of course as an

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Speaker 4: author of The American Spectator and host of Word of

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Speaker 4: the Lord. So if it isn't Kamala, because this time

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Speaker 4: she'd have to go through in this time, it's twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty eight. Trump is't even an office yet, we're going

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Speaker 4: four years later.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we do here.

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Speaker 4: I guess you know, she still have to go through

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Speaker 4: a primary, which she didn't have to this time the

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Speaker 4: nomination was handed to her. Who would be her biggest challenger?

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Speaker 4: You think on the Democratic side? Would it be Shapiro

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Speaker 4: because there's an anti Semitic problem within the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: that may prevent him from getting the nomination, Or is

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Speaker 4: it somebody that we're not really discussing right now that

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Speaker 4: may be on your radar.

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Speaker 3: No, I think avenuwsom, But I as a Pennsylvanian, I

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Speaker 3: have to say I think Josh Shapiro could give her

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Speaker 3: a real run for the nomination. I've met him once

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Speaker 3: or twice here at various events and seeing him, you know,

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Speaker 3: do his campaign thing.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 3: We have something in Pennsylvania known as the Pennsylvania Society,

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Speaker 3: which was started literally about a century and a quarter

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Speaker 3: ago by some sort of fascinating some wealthy Pennsylvania businessman

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Speaker 3: who worked in New York who started this business of

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Speaker 3: gathering Pennsylvanians from around the state to come to New

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Speaker 3: York the second weekend in December every year. So this

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Speaker 3: has become a big deal. And the Governor of the

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Speaker 3: Moment that was there and obviously there a Governor Shapiro

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Speaker 3: was there. I had a chance to talk with him.

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, it was pretty clear to me

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Speaker 3: from the speech he gave that he is thinking seriously

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Speaker 3: about twenty twenty eight. So don't underestimate him, is my advice,

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Speaker 3: because he's done pretty amazingly here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I think he would

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Speaker 1: be the biggest threat to a JD. Vance.

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Speaker 4: I believe would get the nomination for the Republican Party

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Speaker 4: if Trump's presidency is successful, and there's no reason to

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Speaker 4: believe that will not happen.

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Speaker 1: Jeff.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, the tell him that we got to go, but hey,

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Speaker 4: we appreciate you joining us. I hope you had a

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Speaker 4: great New Year's Eve and have a happy twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a great one.

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Speaker 3: Now the recovery, take down the Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Street, Yeah, all on the lights.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna take me days. I know the feeling man,

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Speaker 4: So thank you. Jeff enjoined Pennsylvania. This is Joe concha

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Speaker 4: in for Sean Hannity, eight hundred nine to four to one. Shawn,

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Speaker 4: your calls coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. Joe Concha in for Sean Hannity. The

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Speaker 1: book once again.

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Speaker 4: You can pre order it now, the greatest comeback ever

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Speaker 4: inside Trump's big, beautiful campaign, unburdened by what has been

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Speaker 4: get it anyway. This is interesting and disturbing, and again

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Speaker 4: there are no coincidences. I think Freud said that once.

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Speaker 4: The suspects in yesterday's attacks on Bourbon Street in New

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Speaker 4: Orleans and Trump Tower in Las Vegas both served it

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Speaker 4: for prag. Okay, we know that, but the same military base,

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Speaker 4: and we're talking about brag here. Ryan Ruth visited that

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Speaker 4: military base one hundred times before attempting to take Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's life. Now, remember he was the second assassin who

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Speaker 4: had the snipe paper's nest. Remember that at Trump International

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Speaker 4: down near Mar A Lago, and without a Secret Service

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Speaker 4: agent spotting him in the bushes, he probably would have

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Speaker 4: taken Trump out because there's no cover. He had a

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Speaker 4: clear shot right on a green. So why did Ryan

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Speaker 4: Ruth visit for Bragg and those were the suspects. That's

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Speaker 4: where they actually served in both Bourbon Street and Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Makes no sense. Back with more in a moment,