1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: have somebody who've never had here before, which is wild, 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: but we were so grateful to have her. It is 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: Teresa Nice. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 3: Hello Teresa, Hello Ashlam so happy to be here. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 4: Hello Teresa, Well, then, so happy to be here, Theresa. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: I got to start out by saying that, like, I 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: feel guilty, guilty for being at your wedding is because like, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: how did it feel to have so many people there, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: the vast majority of people there that you had never 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: met before. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that was strange. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: You know, I was expecting it, but I had no 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: idea who was going to be there. It made it 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: more exciting because I knew you from watching The Bachelor, 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: and so I was awestruck that so many wonderful people 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: were there, and people that I had, like I actually 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: had watched The Bachelor with my husband who passed away, 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: and so it was exciting. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: But you know, you're right, so very different. 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: But Nice, I didn't even get to meet you that 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: day because I said high and we met Gary and 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: then I was like, this man doesn't even want why 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: does he want why would you want to waste his 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: time with people that he's never met before meeting them 28 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: on their wedding day. So I saw you covered with people. Oh, 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, like, no, we get a chance. We'll get 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: a chance. I don't want to like, yeah, he'sel my 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: way and take time away from people. She actually knows. 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: I watched it back and I saw you and it 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: was so much fun to watch it back because it 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: was a really, really good party. It was so nice, 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: So thank you for being there. 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 5: I would actually say it was probably within Bachelor Nation, 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: the biggest event since I would actually I mean Jadan 38 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: Tanner's wedding. Yeah, it would be since Jadent Tanner's wedding. 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's been many years since we did 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: something like that, that they agreed to do something like that. 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: That's where I want to start this conversation. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: Sure that sounds good. 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: We're going to dive into all the details and all 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: the ups and downs and all the good and the 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 5: badge of this experience. But in general, if you could 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 5: give us kind of a summary of your experience on 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 5: The Golden Bachelor, should you look back on it now? 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: Okay? Sure, So you know, in the beginning it's just 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: a fluke. 50 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: You fill out an application, you don't think anything's ever 51 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: going to come of it, and when you get that 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: first call, you don't even believe it, and you know 53 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: that it's a very long process. 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: So when I first found out. 55 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: That it was Gary, my first reaction, and my daughter 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: was there, I said, oh, I don't know if I 57 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: could move. I don't know that I could do that, 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: and she said, give it a chance. She said, just 59 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: try go. It was an open mind, and I said, yeah, 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: I do have an open mind. So I went there, 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you that when I was introdu when 62 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: I was interviewing with the producers, they said that it 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: was going to start on August third, and I said, oh, 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: my birthday's August fourth, and they said, and so he 65 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: said you could come in with a birthday cake, and 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: in my head I said, or I could come. 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: In in my birthday, which was just a joke. And I said, 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 4: dare I say that out loud? 69 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: And I said it out loud and he goes, you're hired, 70 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: which wasn't true at the time, and then they loved 71 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: that idea so much. 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: I couldn't get out of it. And I said, I 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: couldn't get out of it. They don't know you're sticking 74 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: with it. 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: And when I saw Gary, I thought, oh my god, 76 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: he has the same story as me. He was married 77 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: to his childhood sweetheart. She passed away unexpectedly. They were 78 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: married about the same number of years. I said, I 79 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to 80 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: do it. 81 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: I want to just. 82 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: Talk to him heart to heart and show him who 83 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: I am. And they said no, and I said okay, 84 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: and we did it. And I was so nervous, I mean, 85 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: coming out of the limo, so excited to meet these 86 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: other women, couldn't wait to meet the women. And when 87 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: I walked out and I went next to Gary, I 88 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: was immediately attracted. And I was in my head saying, 89 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm really attracted to him. 90 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: How is this, you know? 91 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: And I just looked at him and I spontaneously kissed him, 92 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: like is so to say, oh, welcome home, darling. At 93 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: the end of the day, it was it just I 94 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: felt very comfortable with him immediately. And so that night 95 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: I would say that the two times that I was 96 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: really myself because after a certain incident, I wasn't able 97 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: to be myself was that night when I sat on 98 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: the bench and she said, if I eat this. 99 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 4: Cupcake, will you lick the icing off my lips? And 100 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, do it, do it? And that was me, 101 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: like that was real. 102 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: I was really I went into this really trying to 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: be myself. And my daughter had written me this beautiful 104 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: letter and it makes me cry every time I read it, 105 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: and I tried to read it to him, but it 106 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: was like four o'clock in the morning, my contact lenses 107 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: were glued to my eyes and I could only see 108 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: like a part of it. So I kind of made 109 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: up the rest. But one thing that she said was 110 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: just think the whole world was going to get to 111 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: know you, and I just, you know, gonna cry. And 112 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: so I wanted that to be my experience. And then 113 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: and then I get the first date, and I honestly 114 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: didn't want the first date. I just felt like there 115 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: were all eyes on me then and maybe a target 116 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: on my back, and I'm going, there's sixteen women here, 117 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: like how many dates are there? Because the filming was 118 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: only in four weeks, I think there might have been 119 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: nine episodes, but it was only four weeks, so it 120 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: was accelerated because they didn't know if this was going 121 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: to be good or not, if it was going to 122 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: be popular. So the next morning, and this is on 123 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: the show. So it's nothing I'm telling you that I 124 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: haven't said, but you may have missed it because I 125 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: said it really quickly. 126 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: Kathy came up to me and. 127 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: Said, you're the one's It's not me, it's you. And 128 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: I said, why are you saying that, Kathy? You know 129 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: there's sixteen women here. It could be anyone. I never 130 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: thought I was the one. And she said, you're his type. 131 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm not his type. And then she became pretty much 132 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: my best friend. And so when you're in an environment 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: like that and you're used to having so many women 134 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: in your life to talk to. I have my daughter, 135 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: I've got two sisters, I have a daughter in law. 136 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: I've got so many friends. And the next morning I 137 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: come back from the date. 138 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Gary had said on the date, I'm sick of the lake. 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm sick of getting that boat in and out of 140 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: the water. I want to move to Charleston, North Carolina. 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: I said, no, Charleston's in South Carolina, And in my head, 142 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm going, oh, my God, like, what are the chances 143 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: my son lives in South Carolina? You really, I'm going, okay, now, 144 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: I'm really open to the possibility. 145 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: Let me pause you there, though, real quick, did he 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 5: know your son lived there? 147 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: No, you have no idea he didn't know. 148 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: And so I, you know, I'm excited the next morning, 149 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: and so I think I can confide in Kathy. And 150 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: that was naive and my party shouldn't have done it. 151 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: And I'm excited. I'm want to tell someone. And I 152 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: just said the date was really great, and I forget 153 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: exactly what I said, but he said even moved, do 154 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: you want to move to South Carolina? And I guess 155 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: it was misinterpreted as Teresa things she's got this, And 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: I never though I had it. I never thought that. 157 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: I just thought, Okay, now I can really think about 158 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: maybe this could work. 159 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: So this is the incident that you're saying, that was 160 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: the fact you weren't able to ever feel yourself myself. 161 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: I just couldn't. 162 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: I was mortified, Like I was telling me producers, I 163 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: want to talk to Kathy. She's my good friend and 164 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: God bless her. I love Kathy. You know this was 165 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: just the mechanics of the show. I forgot I was 166 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: in a competitive environment, and so I said I was 167 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: forcing it, saying I want to talk to Kathy. 168 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: I really want to talk to Kathy. 169 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: And then when I sat on those steps and she 170 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: accused me of being dismissive, I was absolutely mortified. 171 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to melt into the floor. I wanted to 172 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: just leave right then. And I said, oh my. 173 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: God, it's too late, this is filmed. People are going 174 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: to see this. My face turns completely red. This is 175 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: complete anguish I was going through. And I ran up 176 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: to the bedroom and Faith comforted me, and my intention 177 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: was to leave. 178 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: I really, I just really couldn't. 179 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: I didn't think I wanted to stay there, and they 180 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: convinced me to stay. But from that point on, I 181 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: censored everything I said. I just you know, I couldn't 182 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: really be myself. 183 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: So you'll see me. 184 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: I was really genuinely happy for everybody who got a 185 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: chance to be with Gary. 186 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Leslie and I were just such great friends. 187 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: On the show. 188 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: Gook dinner for her, She taught me dances. I was 189 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: great friends with Faith and with Ellen and Edith and everyone, 190 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: and except that the people that were in Kathy's room, 191 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: I felt a coldness. So I felt I was being 192 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: judged and that's just me, so you know, I take 193 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 3: that as my responsibility. But Trista had come on the 194 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: show and someone had asked her, were you okay with 195 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: Ryan going out with other women? And she said, oh no, 196 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: I wanted to see him be with other women. And 197 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: I said to her, oh my god, justin that's exactly 198 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: how I feel. I wanted Gary to explore it with 199 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: every single person, so he was sure he was with 200 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: the right person. And then when we had the second 201 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: confrontation on the tennis court and Kathy said, what you said, 202 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: I said, that's fine, Like, if you were meant to 203 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: be with him, just you should be with him. So 204 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: I never ever thought that I was the one that 205 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: wasn't the case. 206 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: There's a few things there that stand out to me. 207 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 5: One is, I think you pointed to it at the beginning, 208 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 5: was you had the first date, so there's a target 209 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 5: on your back, and so this was you were kind 210 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: of the one that the eyes were going to be 211 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 5: glued to, going what is her next move? That makes sense. 212 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 5: It happens all the time. You knew it was going 213 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: to happen. We knew it was going to happen. I 214 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: want to talk a little bit about what you're when 215 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: you said you censored yourself, because it obviously worked like 216 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: your censorship led you to end up with Gary, So 217 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: you kind of holding back of who you were. Oh, 218 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: and so I want to get clarity on how you 219 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: like how you censored it with Gary or if you 220 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: still felt like you didn't have to with him. But 221 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 5: only when you existed in the mansion. 222 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good question. It was only when 223 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: I existed in the mansion. And how I censored myself 224 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: was I'm usually talkative and outgoing and and joyful, and 225 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: I would have said so much more, but I just 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: I held back. I didn't say anything. I just kind 227 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: of like, if you look through the whole season, I'm 228 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: probably just nodding and. 229 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: Smiling and I'm not saying much. 230 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: I was just so terrified that I was going to 231 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: say the wrong thing again and do the wrong thing. 232 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,239 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, it changed my entire experience. 233 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: But Okay, I could have just said to myself, Okay, 234 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, and I thought I could do that, 235 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: but I couldn't, which, you know, it's on me. 236 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: It's totally on me that that happened. 237 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: Are you sensitive about this because of the way that 238 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: perhaps people just saw your character throughout the show, or 239 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: your friendships with the ladies because you won, Like normally 240 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: we would be concentrating on that, and yeah, you had 241 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: with Gary, but for you, this seems to be the 242 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: thing that stands out the most. 243 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm it did. 244 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: I was able to be myself when I was with Gary, 245 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: you know, but during that time I was on one 246 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: one on one date and then two group dates, so 247 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: not that much time with him. 248 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: And I'm going to tell you my grandson said it best. 249 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: I was in my room with my daughter and my grandson, Henry, 250 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: and we were waiting for me to go out to 251 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: get married. 252 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: And Henry Pipes. Do you know Henry. 253 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen him, but he speaks 254 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: his mind. He's the one on the show that said, 255 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: I know you could be the new pop up. 256 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: And he said, yeah, he goes just st of this. 257 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: You had one date and you're getting married. 258 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I said, imagine if they like they 259 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: let put that on a big screen. 260 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm waiting to go out there and get married. 261 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, so I would say that people wouldn't have 262 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: known that I censored myself. But when I was on 263 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: the tennis court with I don't know if you remember 264 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: that scene with Kathy and she said, oh, guess what 265 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: like last night I was with Gary and you're out, 266 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: no man, And I truly felt like, okay, if that's 267 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: the truth thing, yes, he should be with you. And 268 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: I don't think that that got across that. I'm an 269 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: extremely open minded person. I would never want to force 270 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: anybody to be with me. I wouldn't want that. And 271 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: when we were together, yeah, we had conversations. You know, 272 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: you've been on the show that didn't you didn't see. 273 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: We had some conversations you didn't see. So yes, I 274 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: felt that. I thought before I went on the show 275 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: that I could just truly be myself and I was 276 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: going to pretend the cameras weren't there, and then I 277 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: became very self conscious. 278 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: Those relationships obviously were around a lot of the golden 279 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 5: you know, contestants. Those relationships have been healed. I think 280 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: there is a clarity and understanding now and that all 281 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 5: kind of yes comes through, and a lot of them 282 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: came to your wedding. This leads up to a question. 283 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: I think a lot of fans are one. Obviously, you know, 284 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 5: your experience on the show had its ups and downs. 285 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: You know, you did have the runs in with Kathy 286 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 5: and you did have, you know, these these high and 287 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: low moments, and then you end up with Gary at 288 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: the end, and you had been on one date with him, 289 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 5: and you had kind of been opened to the idea 290 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 5: of him dating other people, and if he chose you, awesome, 291 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 5: and you guys could celebrate that. But then you decide 292 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: to say yes to this wedding that was, as we 293 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 5: said at the beginning, one of the biggest things to 294 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 5: happen in Bachelor Nations since you know, Jaden Tanner's wedding. 295 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 5: But you said yes to it with confidence. I'm assuming yeah, 296 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: or maybe not. But what made you at that point 297 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 5: feel like, yes, this is something I want to do 298 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 5: now like this, I am so good moving forward in 299 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: this relationship to the point of marriage after you know, 300 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: even your grandson said, you've only been on one date. 301 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, so I went into the really 302 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: looking to fall in love and I did. And we said, Okay, 303 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: they're offering this to us now. They weren't offering it later, 304 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 3: it was now, and we said, if we really are 305 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: going to get married. We should do it because we're 306 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: going to get the wedding of our dreams and we 307 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: are older, and why waste any time do it now. 308 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: So if there was a time constraint on the offer, 309 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't like, Okay, you could do it this month, 310 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: or you could do it next year, or you could 311 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: do it in six months. That wasn't the offer. And 312 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: so we did it because with the faith and hope 313 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: that we were eventually really going to get married, and 314 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: so let's do it now they're offering this to us. 315 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: We'll have our friends and family there, it will be 316 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: whatever you. 317 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: Know, and we did. 318 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Mindy Weiss did a spectacular job, like 319 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: the flowers of the dance floor, the band, everything was 320 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,239 Speaker 3: just absolutely gorgeous. 321 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 322 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: The interesting part for the viewers and you, in all clarity, 323 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: you got upset with me because on a podcast I 324 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 5: had said, I don't know if you ever listened to 325 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: the whole episode, because we've always been very supportive. Yes, 326 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: So that was my comment to you is you have 327 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: to listen to the whole thing because we've always been 328 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: very supportive of you. Here. We're big fans of you. 329 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: We thought you and Gary match very well together. But 330 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 5: on the podcast, we had heard or I had heard, 331 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: I guess I should, you know, take the blame here 332 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: that one of the big factors to your to the 333 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: two of you then deciding to get a divorce was 334 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: a couple things. And I think if we spoke about 335 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: it outside of the Bachelor world, we would say that 336 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: the two of you didn't see eye to eye on 337 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: geographic location. The two of you didn't see eye to 338 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 5: eye on the two spots that you two were living. 339 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: The rumors were that there was a big argument about Indiana, 340 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 5: the place that I'm from, that there's a lot of 341 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: farmland in Indiana, there is a lot of places of 342 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 5: open space in India. There ain't a lot going on in Indiana. 343 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: I and we all know that you've been there. I'm 344 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: sure you've visited for you know, the lake a few times. 345 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: And I'm a Jersey girl, and I understand that Jersey's 346 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: got everything right around the corner. 347 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. 348 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: So I wanted to be clear and say that you 349 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 5: got upset with me, and that the intention was to 350 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: never try to throw you under the bus. The intention 351 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: was never to do that, because that's not what we 352 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 5: would want to do to you here. However, the idea 353 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: was that both I guess at the time when we 354 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: talked about this on the show, was I have I 355 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: see it from one lens where I'm like, I grew 356 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 5: up there. I get it. There's a lot of open space. 357 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: Ashley sees it from another lens, which would be, how 358 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: in the world do you exist in a place that 359 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: has so much open space. There's two types of people 360 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: in the world. Both exist, both are you know, there's 361 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: no right or wrong necessarily. So that's what we said, 362 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: and I want to get clarity from you now on 363 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: what exactly happened. Okay, good to lead to this moment 364 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: where you said, we can't do this any longer. 365 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to clarify that moment when I 366 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: tell you exactly what I said. So we're driving from 367 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: the airport and it was like three hours and we're 368 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: getting closer to Gary's house. 369 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: She's not wrong, by the way, it is, I know 370 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: where he lived. It's three hours close to any airport. 371 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 5: It sucks. Yeah. 372 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: So I see this open land. I don't see crops. 373 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: I just think it's flat land and I go, oh, wow, 374 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: you could build town homes there, That's all I said. 375 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: And Gary said, oh, so you want to take the 376 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: farmer's land away from him. I go, note to sell, 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: don't say that again. I said, oh no, I didn't 378 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: know that was farmland. He said, there's a thing in 379 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: the Midwest. I'd rather give you one acre of my 380 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: I'd rather give you one of my daughters and give 381 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: you one of my acre of land. 382 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: And I said, don't ever say it again. But the 383 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: quote was, Oh, look at this land. You can build. 384 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: You can build villages and streams and resorts and shopping centers. 385 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: And it went on and on, and not one word 386 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: in that whole paragraph of like ten sentences came out 387 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: of my mouth. All I said was, oh, look at 388 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: this you could build townhomes. And then I shut up immediately. 389 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: That was it. 390 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: And then what happened was the plan was to move 391 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: to the area of Charleston, South Carolina, and we were 392 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: looking at homes like virtually we're looking at home. 393 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: So I wasn't ready to you know, I'm still working. 394 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: Full time, I have a home. I wasn't ready to 395 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: sell my home until we found a home. And we 396 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: never got to the point where we found a home. 397 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 3: And by the time we didn't find a home, Gary 398 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: came up with the idea of doing six weeks there 399 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: and six weeks here. And I truly wanted to have 400 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: our home together. I was willing to move. I wanted 401 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: to have our big home where our family could come 402 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: visit us. 403 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't want to go back and forth 404 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: to our homes. 405 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to have an established base with a beautiful 406 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: home together with Gary and then go visit our children, 407 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: and go visit his children, go visit my children, invite 408 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: them there. And that was my idea because that's what 409 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: we agreed upon. And then I guess he you know, 410 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: he loves his house, and I don't blame him. He 411 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: loves where he lives, and he and if that's what 412 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: he decided to do, then then do it. 413 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: And I want you to. 414 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: I want to be happy. So it did change, and 415 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't what we had discussed. We had never discussed 416 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: six weeks here, six weeks there. 417 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: We've talked to so many Bachelor Nation couples who have 418 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: broken up, a lot of them because of distance, most 419 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: notably like Joe and Kendall. You know, it was all that. 420 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: That was the big blame on the breakup was distance 421 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: because he wanted to live in Chicago, and ironically he's 422 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 2: now married and he lives in New York. And then 423 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: she wanted to stay in California, but now she's married 424 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: and she lived in Germany and now she's moving back 425 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: to California. 426 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: You know. Wow. 427 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: So I we've always been like, is that really the 428 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: crux of a breakup? 429 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: Or is there more? 430 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: And that's like a good not alibi, but just like 431 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: the public reason for why did it end up? 432 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: Both First, I want to say kudos to Joan for 433 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: addressing that issue immediately, and she said she wasn't going 434 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: to move. But you can't get you really can't know 435 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: somebody in four weeks. I'll just say that. That's all 436 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: I can say. I'm not I don't want to say 437 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: any more than that four. 438 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: TV weeks or four weeks because you guys literally were 439 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: like only a couple in the month of December, oh, 440 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, like an outward couple. 441 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 4: True. True. So what I'm saying is the right. You're 442 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: absolutely right. 443 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: You know thing, you get to know each other better, 444 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: and it's not something I want. 445 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 4: To discuss at this night. 446 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, so it's not just the location thing. 447 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: Okay, that's awesome. 448 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: That's all we I think. I think that's very fair 449 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 5: of you to say, you know, I've been through something 450 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: not you know, different, but similar in some ways publicly, 451 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: and you know, if the public was needing every single 452 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: thing that happened to lead up to this final decision, 453 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 5: it would make both parties probably look or feel be 454 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: up right. You've both had failures within this relationship to 455 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 5: lead up to this moment. You're like, you're not the 456 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 5: right person. Location is a very easy issue. But I 457 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 5: think what happened and I'm curious, So what happened when 458 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: you and Gary came out and said location is one 459 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: of the big issues or the biggest issue to why 460 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: we broke up. People went, that makes sense. A lot 461 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: of people said that makes sense. Now, for the right person, 462 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 5: they would have been willing to move. So we let's 463 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: assume that they weren't right for each other. Also location 464 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 5: was an issue. They're done. So now we see Jones 465 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 5: season happening, and I think the fans, with the knowledge 466 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 5: of what they are gaining from the relationship you had 467 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 5: on this show and the marriage that you had on 468 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: this show. Are now saying, here's an idea. How about 469 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 5: they start casting the Golden Show regionally. How about they 470 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 5: start doing the casting so that if you live in 471 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 5: New Jersey, the men that you will be dating at 472 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 5: least live within a driving distance of New Jersey. Is 473 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 5: this an idea that you would back and say, that's 474 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: a good idea. And do you think if that was 475 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 5: the case, if you did live a little closer, that 476 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: your relationship with Geary could have worked. 477 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 478 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: I think that that's an outstanding idea. I think that's 479 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: what they should do. I mean, it's for all ages, 480 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: but especially for people who are older, who have grandchildren 481 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: and are established in their communities and their homes. It's 482 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: really a very difficult to ask. And yeah, they probably 483 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: would have been a better chance. And that's why I 484 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: say I really applaud Joan for addressing that issue immediately. 485 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't the Golden Bachelorette. I didn't really have the 486 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: right to say anything like that. And you just think 487 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: the world wants a loves to and they want you 488 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: to move, and it's you know, you don't know how 489 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: you're going to feel until you were really faced. 490 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 4: With that decision. 491 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: It's very difficult, and you know, it's you do. I 492 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: do want to be in love. I do want to 493 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: be with someone. I think that that's I think love 494 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: is for me the most important thing, and it's love 495 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: of family, and it's you know, to have a partner 496 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: in life. 497 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: Is that I want? 498 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: So I wanted that so badly. It's not something I 499 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: gave up very easily. 500 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: I hate to keep bringing up, you know, yeah, the split. 501 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: But I think lots of people are curious about the 502 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: fact that you did had to. I won't say had that. 503 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: You did it on Good Morning America. You announced it 504 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: on Good Morning America. And it was so soon after 505 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: the wedding, about three months. So why why announce it 506 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: that soon after? Why didn't you just like milk it 507 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: for a little while. 508 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: I know, why didn't we do that? Oh you could 509 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: ask Gary, why. 510 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 3: Did I want to I don't know, to milk it 511 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 3: a little while. I know I got out of this 512 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: so quickly, I I, you know, to be in that 513 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: world and then all of a sudden, you just drop 514 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: everything because we were offered things that we couldn't then 515 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: pursue some really great things, really big things. But I 516 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: think I think that's I don't know. I do know 517 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: the answer to it, I don't know. Yeah, I can 518 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: dedulte it. 519 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: It's more I don't know. 520 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: I would have never milt something that wasn't honest. I 521 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: would not have done that, but I probably would have 522 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: waited longer because of the Golden Bachelorette. I was willing 523 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: to wait longer to and because I didn't want to 524 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: put a damper on her season. I wanted her. I 525 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: wanted to wait until kind of that was. 526 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: Over, because like the audience kind of has this perception 527 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: now like could this work? 528 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to disappoint people. 529 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: I felt so badly about people who were so disappointed 530 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: because I was disappointed, and I, you know, I didn't 531 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: want to hurt people because it was it was such, 532 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: you know, a fairy tale. It was beautiful and it 533 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: really was real and we really believed it. And I 534 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: also feel bad, like I really want him to be 535 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: with his person. I want him to be with the 536 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: person he should be with, and you know that wasn't me, 537 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: And if there was someone else on the show that 538 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: he really wanted to be with, I wish, you know 539 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: that that could happen. If there was any possibility that 540 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: that could happen, because I want him to be happy. 541 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: Theresa, I also like want to get cocktails with you 542 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: and like fill your guts to me and. 543 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: Give me really drunk. 544 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what we're hearing is a lot of 545 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: the real reason. I think what we're actually hearing is 546 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: a lot of the real reason. With you being respectful 547 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: to Gary into the environment that existed, a few rapid 548 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 5: fire questions here kind of to get maybe some clarity 549 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: without divulging too much to make it an issue. How 550 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: much of that period of life with kind of going 551 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 5: on Good Morning America and maybe even the wedding that 552 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 5: you look back now and it could be it could 553 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 5: be blamed on the excitement of the time, the celebrity, 554 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 5: the euphoria. I feel it. I've been there, I get 555 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: it and I feel it. Yeah, we both have been there. 556 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: To where we go. This is exciting. I'm doing more 557 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 5: new things than I've ever done before. I have opportunities 558 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 5: that never existed before. How much of that time could 559 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: be blamed on just the new and the excitement? 560 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're right. 561 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, starts in the mansion, where you 562 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: present with someone in their best possible life, and then 563 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 3: afterwards you're always in an exciting situation, so you're both 564 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: at your best. You're both excited by the experience that 565 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: you're in, so that's exciting, and you're not in your regular, 566 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 3: mundane life. So yes, that not too prolong that that 567 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: wasn't the reason, But say, being in Times Square, Yeah, 568 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: and the excitement. I've never done that before and that 569 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: was absolutely wonderful. And then yeah, to be on the 570 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 3: Kelly and Mark Show and all of that. 571 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: Yes, we were enjoying that ride. 572 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: Together and very happy then and very excited about it. 573 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: So if you look back on it, yes, part of 574 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: the excitement and the happiness probably had to do with 575 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: those external factors that you're in this whirlwind. 576 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: I think the question that so many fans though, also 577 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 5: want to know from your perspective now, because the Golden 578 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 5: Show did a lot for a lot of people. You're 579 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: right when you said people were cheering for the two 580 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: of you. We're living vicariously through the two of you. 581 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 5: We're finding hope in the two of you. Could this 582 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: show work now that you've been through it and that, Yes, 583 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 5: your experience is kind of one that people look back 584 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 5: on be like, gosh, dang, it didn't do what I 585 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: thought it was going to do. It ended poorly, and 586 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 5: it ended in a way that now makes me question, 587 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 5: is this Golden Show can end up just like the 588 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: other Bachelor shows where you know five percent of the 589 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 5: people end up getting together. Teresa? Do you think this 590 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 5: Golden Show has legs where it will help people like 591 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 5: you find love? 592 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely. 593 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: I think that everyone with every season, they're going to 594 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: learn different things. Just like Joan did to say, stipulate 595 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 3: right up front. I'm not moving, So they'll learn and 596 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: it will morph into something that really really works. And 597 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: you know, if you've first of all, if you had 598 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: two people who were older and didn't have grandchildren, that's 599 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: one factor where you really feel like you could leave. 600 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 4: But just imagine yourselves. You've got your families, your family, 601 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: You've got your. 602 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: Children, You're going to have your children, your child Ben, 603 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: and then you have grandchildren, and you're so ingrained in 604 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: your life. It gets the more the years pass, the 605 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: further ingrained you get into that life. So I think 606 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: that it's the family that stops you, that prevents you 607 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: from fully embracing it. I don't know, I was just 608 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: so happy to be a mom, to be a young mom. 609 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm all about that. I'm all about family. So it's 610 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: very hard for me to think about moving away unless 611 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 3: it was to move to South Carolina and be near 612 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: my son. 613 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: So that's it. Like that would have worked for me. 614 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: And like a light bulb went off and I said, oh, okay, 615 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: but he really wants to do this, this is great. 616 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 3: And I didn't and I did say we were in 617 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: the car stopped and we weren't being filmed. 618 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: I don't, Yeah, we weren't. 619 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: That was on was not on camera, and I said, oh, 620 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: my son lives there, and I don't think I don't 621 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: know if he heard it, but maybe he heard it, 622 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: but it's that was a huge factor. So I think 623 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: the show absolutely could work. I look forward to many, 624 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: many iterations of this show. I'm glued, absolutely glued to 625 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: Joe's season. I'm so I'm going to be so upset 626 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: when it's over. I'm just sit there with my popcorn 627 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: and you know, you moved to the set. 628 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I love it so much. 629 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: She's doing such a great job and I love and 630 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: just to digress a little, I love what all the 631 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: women have been doing and that they've the opportunities that 632 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: they've embraced. 633 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: And I honestly have not accepted anything. 634 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: I haven't done any sponsorship yet because it's I didn't 635 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: know this about myself, but I I feel I can't 636 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: do it unless it's something that I either use or 637 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: I truly believe in. 638 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: So just sell your soul and it happens. 639 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 4: I know people are just saying, that's crazy. What are 640 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: you doing? Why did you turn that down? 641 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: What? 642 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 5: I'm not good at it. I'm not good at either. 643 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: You gotta find products that you love to do it regularly. 644 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 5: We'll have to figure that out for you. 645 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, before you leave, we do want to ask, 646 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: like what are you doing, Like what what's your current 647 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 2: day to day look like? 648 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 5: And like yeah, and what excites you, like what's pumping 649 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 5: you up for the future here? 650 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 651 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: No, so my day to day is I oh, I 652 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: used to day trade stocks. I want me day to 653 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: day as being with my family. My daughter just had 654 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: a baby August Edward gradually, thank. 655 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: You very much, seventh grandchild. 656 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, it's very good. I couldn't. I can't believe that. 657 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's if you had told me, you know, 658 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: I was eighteen years old, was going to have seven grandsons. 659 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: It's crazy seven grandsons. You don't have one granddaughter, no. 660 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: Long and there's no home now, there's no hope, no daughter. 661 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: I have two children and they produce seven children. 662 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: So that gets me going. And I still do work. 663 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: But it's in the back of my mind to do 664 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: something different. I really, I really, I'm so curious about people, 665 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: and maybe I'd like to interview people. 666 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: I am sort of like a writer. 667 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: I am. I've been into health and longevity my entire life. 668 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: I've been into eating well, the Mediterranean diet, and maybe 669 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: I know books don't really pay much, but maybe I'll 670 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: do something like that. I mean, people do ask me, 671 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: and I haven't had surgery yet, but I do do 672 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: things like facial massage, a microcurrent, and I don't know. 673 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: If I should get a facelot. I don't know if 674 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 4: I should do it. 675 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 5: There's not much to live there. Yeah, well some of 676 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: your friends are doing it. 677 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know, I know, and kudos to them. 678 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: That's awesome. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe one day. 679 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm not doing it yet, but so there's there's so much. 680 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just going to key in on all the 681 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: things that I'm interested in, Like, I have so many interests, 682 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: gardening and the stock market. And I went from being 683 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: a day trader to being a Bussian trader. So the 684 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: stock market really gets me excited. I mean, the stock 685 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: market to me is like this giant puzzle that you 686 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: have to figure out. There's so many different bits of 687 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: information you need to put together to make a decision, 688 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: and you have to it's almost I'm also like a 689 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: game of chess where you have to be like ten 690 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: steps ahead of your opponent. 691 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: So that gets me going. And I don't trade during 692 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: the day. 693 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: Because I have a job, but i'll you know, put 694 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: in limit buys and limit cells and you know, and 695 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: go And I'm a techno fundamentalist. 696 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: That's what I do. 697 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: So I can't believe that I got interested in that's 698 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: so late in life. My husband was a market maker, 699 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: but we never talked about it. 700 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: You should write a book called like the Golden Girls 701 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: Guide to the stock Market. 702 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: Ooh right, that make people as Let's give you a 703 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: little encouragement here. I mean, we're, yes, obviously younger, but 704 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 5: we've been a part of this franchise for a while. 705 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 5: There is a season and a time, and I'm not 706 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 5: saying you're in it. You're You're still you know, you 707 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: had a different journey than most. You ended up with 708 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 5: the the Bachelor, which isolates you kind of on you know, 709 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 5: from hanging out with all the friends all the time, 710 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 5: and you're kind of focused on that, and then you 711 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: guys break up, and then you're kind of sitting there going, 712 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 5: you know, what have I missed? You haven't missed anything. 713 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 5: You're in a great season of life. You're a grandmother 714 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 5: to seven grandchildren, you have, you're still actively working, You're 715 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 5: still thinking about health and beauty and longevity and dating 716 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: and love. This all. If you were like a friend 717 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 5: of mine laying all this out on the table in 718 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 5: front of me, I'd be like, you got a really 719 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 5: good thing going. And yes, it seems like everybody else 720 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 5: is doing so much more, and it seems like everybody 721 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: else is doing so many cooler things. It ain't true. 722 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 5: What you got here is what everybody else wants. They 723 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 5: just don't know how to get it yet. So I 724 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: hope for you love comes, because that's obviously a wish 725 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 5: that does not exist yet, a romantic love in your life, 726 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 5: but also have a lot of fun in this season. 727 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 5: Be where your feet are, be present because this is 728 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: a really fun time for you. 729 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: So getting thank you so much and that's beautiful. That 730 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: was so nice. 731 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's true. 732 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: The only thing is the only men that want like 733 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: a seventy one year old or ninety. 734 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 4: Year olds, So. 735 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 5: Well, younger women, Let's let's let that be a personal 736 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 5: choice that you can make at some point in your 737 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 5: life if that's something that interests you. 738 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: No, I like to end on a fun question. If 739 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: you're watching Jones season with Popcorn, you're so into it, 740 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: we have to know which guy are you looking at? 741 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: Thinking can say no to a date with him? 742 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 5: That's a good question. 743 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: I thought about this. I'm going to be evasive. 744 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: No, you have to answer you can. 745 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 4: We've let you a. 746 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: Lot Like if I was single and interested, I would 747 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 5: be like, you know what, Pablo would have been my guy? 748 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 5: Or Pascal, sorry, Pascal would have been my guy? 749 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so here's here's my first part of the answer. 750 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: I really have to get to know them more. I'd 751 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: really love to meet them all that. 752 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: I mean, having been through this experience, I don't know 753 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: that I could take it a face value. 754 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: But physically is there's your time. 755 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 4: Oh, physically the kids. 756 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: Physically, I'm just going to generally tell you that it's 757 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: someone taller and someone tall and you know, Gary's actually 758 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: my type. 759 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 4: So that's the physical tide. 760 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 5: Like somebody like a chalk. He seems pretty tall. We 761 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: just don't know where he ends up in this whole thing. 762 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 5: He's still in there. 763 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: Then Mark, Jonathan and Mark. 764 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, yeah neither Yeah, they all seem great, but. 765 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 5: She's just smitten. She's like, I like them all, Like, 766 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 5: don't make me choose. 767 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, I like them all. I'm enjoying every 768 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 4: one of them. I think they're great. I don't know 769 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 4: if I'll ever meet any of them, but you never know. 770 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 5: We're still pushing for twenty twenty five Golden Paradise where 771 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 5: everybody shows up, he meets each other. Teresa. We hope 772 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 5: that's in your future. We'd love to see you again. 773 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 5: We love to watch you try to find love again. 774 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 5: Thank you for coming on the show. Don't be a stranger. 775 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 5: Thanks for walking through a conversation that I know just 776 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 5: probably sucks to walk through a thousand times, but you're 777 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: doing it, and you're doing it well and come back 778 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 5: sometime to break down maybe future seasons of the Golden Show. 779 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. You guys are wonderful. I loved 780 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: every moment of this. 781 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. 782 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: I'm i gotta regret what I said. 783 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 5: No, you're not gonna regret anything. But if anybody's listening, 784 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 5: message Teresa for any products that you think she'll appreciate, 785 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 5: use and enjoy. She would love to share about them 786 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: on all her social media platforms. It brings her so 787 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: much joy and so much fun fun. Teresa will talk 788 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 5: to you soon. Thank you. 789 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 4: Thank you guy. 790 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 791 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts