Speaker 1: What's the deal. It's break Baby, Man. Check me out
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Speaker 1: Don't be late. Don't be late, man, it's the boy
Speaker 1: break Man.
Speaker 2: Brick Baby. I have to say so, I wasn't following
Speaker 2: you about a year ago, and you were trying to
Speaker 2: DM me, and I was already talking to ill Will
Speaker 2: about your music because he has sent me this maybe
Speaker 2: two year and a half. That's right when you got out,
Speaker 2: maybe right when you got out, but it Will was
Speaker 2: like sending me your and I sent it off to
Speaker 2: nima An Empire. You probably don't even know all this,
Speaker 2: But then I remember like seeing you pop up on
Speaker 2: somebody and I checked my DMS and you were banging
Speaker 2: on me in the DM's dog. I bet keep that
Speaker 2: energy because I didn't see you dming.
Speaker 1: Me, because I'm like, damn, KIV, you didn't made it.
Speaker 1: But but the whole thing was I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was doing my wrap thing and I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing Yeah. I'm like yeah, but I ain't
Speaker 1: had our section. That's why I ain't been prevailing in
Speaker 1: the years before. I know all the people. When it
Speaker 1: come down to putting the music out, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to learn the tricks of the trade, and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, look, I'm trying to put it all in
Speaker 1: the right hands and put it out the right way.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, because like you'll put out
Speaker 1: like I have big features on the way out, so
Speaker 1: I gotta get because you have to get my numbers
Speaker 1: up at the time. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I heard you have a whole project with Gunner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a whole project with Gunner. But
Speaker 1: the people already so Lee was supposed foundation media, Lee
Speaker 1: was supposed to put the money up for the project.
Speaker 2: Right, but it's already recorded.
Speaker 1: It's all done and all that, and it's not even
Speaker 1: and this.
Speaker 2: Is like two years old. You're up tight with two
Speaker 2: years why yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh ysel So yeah, me and Gunna specifically, like we're closer,
Speaker 1: not closer than Thug, but like we are on the
Speaker 1: same level as how I am with Thug, like because
Speaker 1: Thug grew up with us basically before when I was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and him and Pee Wee Long Way we
Speaker 1: all grew up from eighteen well when I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: so uh, I got that relationship. Whatever. I come home
Speaker 1: and he like, look, I'm an executive producer project, the
Speaker 1: first project.
Speaker 2: Just like we're gonna gonna that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like this is how you're gonna get a bag.
Speaker 1: That's what he's telling me. It's how you're gonna go
Speaker 1: get the bag. Tell the mama as they could do.
Speaker 1: And and he like, I got you.
Speaker 2: End of the day.
Speaker 1: So we do it. We record. He's only on three
Speaker 1: songs of the project. He executive proud Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: I had Dirk on the project. I got all type
Speaker 1: of like a lot.
Speaker 2: I might have to sit some of these songs on
Speaker 2: my phone.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah you do, Yeah you do, Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you got something most of the songs. And it was
Speaker 1: like all right, I'm dropping. I'm dropping. And then I
Speaker 1: just dropped. And I went through a whole lot of
Speaker 1: people wasn't seeing it because it was off camera. Like
Speaker 1: when I dropped, not enough. I had a whole rollout.
Speaker 1: I got distros begging me to finish, like like you
Speaker 1: keep dropping, right, But I went through some recently and
Speaker 1: it just like it kind of like it's like ripping
Speaker 1: the wrap up out of me, like and then it's
Speaker 1: like I'm reaching out the rap dude, like my rap
Speaker 1: friends in the middle of that, trying to keep the
Speaker 1: rap going on to you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: it's like everybody, not even when I mean my rap friends,
Speaker 1: not even the ones that's doing the rapping. It's like
Speaker 1: the producers is right, Yeah, it's this DUDEO engineer me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean like like that, it's just like the dots
Speaker 1: ain't connected.
Speaker 2: So just I'm good at So you decided to just
Speaker 2: leave rap alone for now.
Speaker 1: For those months I'm back to. Yeah, I had to
Speaker 1: clear my mind because it was like if it frustrate
Speaker 1: me anymore while I'm going through this, and like.
Speaker 2: Because how long were you locked up for?
Speaker 1: Three years?
Speaker 2: Three and a half the last time, right, because you
Speaker 2: had the y G record it was U y G.
Speaker 1: I A D Yeah, and then I had just dropped
Speaker 1: with Chris.
Speaker 2: Brown right after that and then you ended up locked up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it was like a bad It was terrible because
Speaker 2: you obviously get close with Chris Brown from that kid
Speaker 2: Ink tour with FTI.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I was cool with Chris.
Speaker 2: By the way that tour was.
Speaker 1: It was it was Veti, Migos, Taylor, Yeah, Tianna Taylor.
Speaker 1: I just was talking about that. Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: French Montana French was on it. Yeah, because French was
Speaker 1: he was coming out with Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was Actually that tour might have ended our friendship more.
Speaker 2: Than you and Chris.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's when he was like running around with like every
Speaker 2: blood in La on.
Speaker 1: Tour with yeah Menace and everybody was there.
Speaker 2: What was that guy saying, kid Red kid Red?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I don't know what the fuck happened.
Speaker 2: Manace was between the tour. Yeah, this was prompting. Menace
Speaker 2: was the first.
Speaker 1: He was the first, dude, forget it went compting and
Speaker 1: it went.
Speaker 2: It was a very random tour.
Speaker 1: And it was a whole lot of controversy behind that
Speaker 1: line was opening whoa.
Speaker 2: Because I remember kid Ink went on after the Migos,
Speaker 2: and at that time, I was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: you did no, no, no, no, kid ink O Marion went
Speaker 2: on after kid Ink and it didn't make sense, No, no, no,
Speaker 2: did he go on? I think o Marion went on
Speaker 2: after kid Ink. There was something involving ink where it.
Speaker 1: Just Marion with no kid Ink was right behind Chris Chris.
Speaker 2: So did Marion think he should be?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he got over that because of the hits
Speaker 1: or whatever the case was. But Omarion was at the half,
Speaker 1: I think he wasn't really Tripp and Tripp like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to piss no. I remember hearing about it
Speaker 1: all right, So this I went, it went h I
Speaker 1: think he had to go before Feedtie Wop. He had
Speaker 1: to go before Feddie Wop. He like Feddie Wap. Knew
Speaker 1: and I wasn't doing Chris like this when when they
Speaker 1: was going on tour with us. Yeah, me did inco
Speaker 1: on after before he went on after Fedia.
Speaker 2: That's who I'm thinking there at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was a it was a big hummie move.
Speaker 2: You kind of know at that time Chris Brown is
Speaker 2: still Chris Brown, one of the greatest entertainers we've ever
Speaker 2: had livet But I was on the radio side giving
Speaker 2: away tickets to that that tour and listeners were calling
Speaker 2: him and they weren't saying, I want Chris Brown tickets.
Speaker 2: They were saying I want FEddi Wap tickets because that
Speaker 2: was when FEddi Wap was.
Speaker 1: It was a big it was and it was feeddi Wip.
Speaker 1: He's so humble, he was paying his respect. He didn't
Speaker 1: even yeah, because he just was like, like people.
Speaker 2: Are understand the twenty fourteen fifteen Fetti Wop run.
Speaker 1: He was crazy. That's what I'm like. You go out
Speaker 1: there and when he goes out there, you gonna hear everybody. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was doing the Hot one hundred
Speaker 1: fests on his days off. That's what that's what type
Speaker 1: of a toury run he was having. Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was doing the Billboard Hot one
Speaker 1: hundred concerts and shit like his one offs were crazy.
Speaker 2: So you obviously you grow up out and here in
Speaker 2: La right for people. But but you how'd you end
Speaker 2: up in Atlanta College? Okay?
Speaker 1: So where'd you go? Clark, Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Okay? So we know where you're from, obviously because you
Speaker 2: say it all the.
Speaker 1: Time time sick.
Speaker 2: Except I'd like to point out too that the first
Speaker 2: time that you and it was you krit Mac and
Speaker 2: was it sharp?
Speaker 1: Yeah? When he came home, Oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: classic bro.
Speaker 2: I was just so wildly entertained by like the on
Speaker 2: hood on sick so and like yo homie god Spopples
Speaker 2: in prison, you guys are just mentioned the people's names
Speaker 2: not I'm just like this is the most wildly ganged out.
Speaker 1: But see, people don't see that side of because I
Speaker 1: switched it up. But like people that I've been ganging with,
Speaker 1: that's like our our lingo.
Speaker 3: That's like no, I mean, And that's why it was
Speaker 3: just and it was so funny because like you were
Speaker 3: just here like like the way like krip Maak was
Speaker 3: talking about like catching fades in prison and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: on six so he got hands like.
Speaker 2: I saw him the county like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we was living because like we wasn't stars like
Speaker 1: that before. Like now we go to jail, we would
Speaker 1: be like, oh they're like stars. Like the police know
Speaker 1: you celebrity, so they try to put you away because
Speaker 1: you might have an influence or people might want to
Speaker 1: get at you just to show off type shit.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: You can't really escape it. I mean I probably signed
Speaker 1: a waiver. They probably end up snatching me up to
Speaker 1: take me up there anyway, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it'll be too much controversy with me. Oh, like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean yeah, so we was on the
Speaker 1: main line. We really were stuggying, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We eating with fighting, we doing everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the county, they always say that county is
Speaker 2: like the worst place.
Speaker 1: It's the worst.
Speaker 2: And so let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: You don't go outside every day, right, you don't have
Speaker 1: a regular program.
Speaker 2: The food that and in county isn't the l a.
Speaker 2: Politics are still intact as to where if you go
Speaker 2: to prison, the politics swish a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in County you squabble your enemies.
Speaker 2: Like if you see somebody who's like an op or whatever, you.
Speaker 1: Be together. Yeah, because if you a crypt you cripp
Speaker 1: but you all gonna be together.
Speaker 2: It ain't just no, because it's.
Speaker 1: Really a respect thing. Like if somebody disrespects you, then
Speaker 1: you got all all action at the fade, stabbing whatever.
Speaker 1: But if everybody keeping respectful, Yeah, everybody's a gang member,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be people from every hood. So if you're
Speaker 1: gonna keep tripping on.
Speaker 2: Every you're gonna everyone. Now you're gonna die. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I felt really bad, Like when I saw money sign
Speaker 2: sway pass away man in there. I was like, fuck, like.
Speaker 1: See, I just found out he was a non affiliate though,
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like he seemed like he was just a
Speaker 2: good kid who.
Speaker 1: Just so what it was when they put that pressure
Speaker 1: on him. He was standing, he was standing on business
Speaker 1: and it's like it's nobody there at the backing because
Speaker 1: he's not from a gang. So they know he got money,
Speaker 1: and they thinking that he's showing off just because he's
Speaker 1: a rapper. They the only thing they have left to
Speaker 1: do is to do some ship like that instead of
Speaker 1: embracing me, you know, I mean like yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because I'm assuming he was in general population.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was it.
Speaker 2: Because I always say, like, dude, if I ever got forbid,
Speaker 2: had to go to like county jail, I'm figuring out
Speaker 2: a way to go to fucking PC.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, but you're gonna put me.
Speaker 2: In the whole pause. I don't want to be around nobody.
Speaker 1: They gonna love you, man, it's good. They're not good. No,
Speaker 1: the ain't not.
Speaker 2: I went to I went to jail once for one
Speaker 2: night and somehow while being there, bro like I'm like
Speaker 2: in the holding cellus in Arizona.
Speaker 1: And like fucking six dudes.
Speaker 2: Just throughout the day just walk by and recognized me,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, they're like, why are you here? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no.
Speaker 1: He thought you were in the world where nobody knew killed.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows, using my sneaker as a pillow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that jel was with a little tissue roll on.
Speaker 2: Top of it toilet paper. I didn't get any of
Speaker 2: the food. Well, no, I was like, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Take a ship. You're not You're not doing none of
Speaker 1: that for at least three four days, especially your first time,
Speaker 1: Like come on, man, But yeah, like you're famous though,
Speaker 1: so you go high power, they empower me. High power
Speaker 1: is like we're shook Knight and everybody was at That's
Speaker 1: where I'm not trying to That's where sold boy was
Speaker 1: that you you're in like a one man seal, that's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the one man. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 2: want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, I'm not going I don't here, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not going back either.
Speaker 1: That's out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, so you were in college, you while you're
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, you end up linking with everybody out there
Speaker 2: who's doing doing you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah doing what they do.
Speaker 2: Shouts to pee wee, who's a legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, shout out a long way man, one of
Speaker 1: the most. Mister don't speak, he won't talk.
Speaker 2: He don't do interviews.
Speaker 1: And then I did a bad one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, yeah he answered questions the right way.
Speaker 1: And now yeah, yeah, yeah. Now nobody would interview because
Speaker 1: I was trying to know not not will interview, but
Speaker 1: nobody wants, like desires it because you're not gonna get that.
Speaker 1: None of them know it.
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Speaker 2: get back to the interview. You know, it's crazy because
Speaker 2: you were you were around during this era because like
Speaker 2: I just think of like some of these guys who
Speaker 2: like in theory shouldn't be hanging out with gang members,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but then like you guys moved to
Speaker 2: LA and then all of a sudden, they're like affiliated
Speaker 2: as soon as and it's like as soon.
Speaker 1: As they get here.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how much of that is like
Speaker 2: mutual or how much of it is like, well, I
Speaker 2: kind of need to have somebody around.
Speaker 1: Bow wow. Jumping off the porte was crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Bow wow.
Speaker 1: That was one of the biggest like selgiaboy always even.
Speaker 2: Like even like the Chris Brown Ship, like Chris Brown's
Speaker 2: a child star. Yeah, he first came out when he
Speaker 2: was sixteen years old. His mom was.
Speaker 1: Living here for that long, like he'd been here as he.
Speaker 2: Was like I'm saying something like that, and you're like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand what happened there, Like is it these
Speaker 2: are just his friends or did he want to get
Speaker 2: down or and then you know, I mean.
Speaker 1: Some people like always wanted to be in the streets
Speaker 1: and then like when we were kids, you it is
Speaker 1: the such thing as being off the porch before sixteen.
Speaker 1: Like where I'm from, of course, like I've been like
Speaker 1: around this shit.
Speaker 2: No no, but we're talking about people who we like
Speaker 2: had it platinum songs when they were children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at what time? When when was his first
Speaker 1: platinum hit though, Like when was the first time run run?
Speaker 1: It was when he was sixteen, all right, so you
Speaker 1: gotta think dinner. I think eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, when
Speaker 1: you learned how to be bad and all that year,
Speaker 1: what are you looking up to? He and Va they
Speaker 1: might have a blood gang and Va that then he
Speaker 1: moved to La.
Speaker 2: I know. The first time I met Chris Brown, I
Speaker 2: was an intern at a radio station and we had
Speaker 2: this big label dinner in Phoenix and his mom would
Speaker 2: not let him order soda, so he woh he ordered
Speaker 2: a chocolate milk.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: This was like. So he did a radio show for
Speaker 2: us and he with Soba sixteen. Yeah, so it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you the lineup he opened. It's a
Speaker 2: nightclub show, it's probably like twelve hundred people, it's a
Speaker 2: radio event, and it's a concert. The closer was Ray
Speaker 2: J because he had one wish Wow. The mid person
Speaker 2: was pretty ricky oh yeah, and the opener was fucking
Speaker 2: Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: Bro. But see that's what oh Marion was saying. He
Speaker 1: was like, when he was getting old, we was letting
Speaker 1: him come beform. We wasn't pushing him to the back
Speaker 1: of the concert. But O Marion is like, okay, you
Speaker 1: got groceries out. Yeah that even the name of the song, right,
Speaker 1: but that people.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm like, So you had that out
Speaker 1: and you was feeling but he had like another song
Speaker 1: that took off somethingow remember.
Speaker 2: What was it? Yeah, like her ice spot.
Speaker 1: He had some other ho I'm talking about right around
Speaker 1: that time. I remember it was another one though, but
Speaker 1: at got time, but got like going back to back
Speaker 1: with the motherfuckers just hits. Yeahs, back to back with him.
Speaker 2: For a second, I was gonna say, like, so you
Speaker 2: end up in Atlanta, where do you end up? How
Speaker 2: to college end? How many years did you end up doing?
Speaker 2: And did you like did you like what what? What
Speaker 2: did your college journey end like pretty early? Or your
Speaker 2: college journey like where did it end at? Like how
Speaker 2: many years? Super early?
Speaker 1: Finals week first first finals week of SEGA semester.
Speaker 2: That's what mine was. Actually I finished the first semester
Speaker 2: and I don't think I ever went again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was finals week, SEGA semester. I got
Speaker 1: caught with with the pack. Oh yeah, I got caught
Speaker 1: with the pack.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure at that time you're probably bringing la
Speaker 2: ship over.
Speaker 1: What we going crazy? What is good?
Speaker 2: Crazy?
Speaker 1: But shout out the girl who told me, oh so
Speaker 1: you got with the fact you think that would have happened?
Speaker 1: You would finish college definitely. I probably would have no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have finished college no, because I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: like what else going on? Because I wanted to say
Speaker 1: something else. But it was like right then, all the
Speaker 1: people I was rotating with, because when I got to college,
Speaker 1: I found out it was a game of just niggas
Speaker 1: selling drugs and going to class. Like if you could
Speaker 1: go to class and keep this up on campus because
Speaker 1: it was like a black school like white school, It's
Speaker 1: still going on, people still serving and people said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, but this you can have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in college, you're running it.
Speaker 1: You're going crazy. Yeah back then too, Like that was
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard of adderalls when I
Speaker 1: got to college.
Speaker 2: Because people will take that ship to study, to study.
Speaker 1: And all that shit. I'm like, what the like, it's
Speaker 1: the study pill take one. I'm like, they make you
Speaker 1: seem like it's no method there. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: What were you What were your aspirations in terms of
Speaker 2: like what you were trying to like study?
Speaker 1: Your major in criminal justice? Oh wow, I was major.
Speaker 1: I hadn't really figured it out. I wanted to I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a lawyer, but I knew I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna want to do that much schooling. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I probably was gonna end up doing like
Speaker 1: real estate and all that ship with my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was going because they was like, you could
Speaker 1: be a probation officer, you could be this, you can
Speaker 1: do imagine. Yeah, I have fresh out juvenile Like, they're
Speaker 1: not finna accept me as no type of officer.
Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, I don't want to be a lawyer
Speaker 1: because I just I was just lazy at that point.
Speaker 1: I was. I was playing basketball still, like going through
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm five eights and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to the league, So fuck basketball.
Speaker 2: You being Isaiah Thomas, I you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that's over with you playing at their
Speaker 1: school at Clark, I had walked on. We had because
Speaker 1: I had just transferred back from a basketball prep school
Speaker 1: in Mississippi to my high school California.
Speaker 2: You were in the South, Yeah, no, I have. They
Speaker 2: they made me go.
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Speaker 1: What were we talking about? College?
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about You said you were playing basketball
Speaker 2: in Mississippi.
Speaker 1: Transferred, yeah, back to Okay, So I transferred back to
Speaker 1: my school in California, and they ruld be ineligible as
Speaker 1: a legal transfer from Mississippi because they was like it
Speaker 1: was a scouting thing going on with Amir Johnson, Gabriel
Speaker 1: Prud Aaron to follow, like everybody had went to like
Speaker 1: different schools and they was uh because they always had
Speaker 1: Centennial and then they ended up going to Westchester and
Speaker 1: they was going to different schools. So the CIF had
Speaker 1: put like a band on us, like transferring schools, you
Speaker 1: had to sit out a year like you was in
Speaker 1: college once you transferred. So I transferred back to the
Speaker 1: school that I came from before. I was having behavioral problems,
Speaker 1: so they sent me off. I kept going to jail
Speaker 1: and doing shit like that in Mississippi. No I forced
Speaker 1: you to leave. Yeah yeah, My mom like, U ship
Speaker 1: you go out here and make sure you get a
Speaker 1: car where you come back. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: She kind of like going to Mississippi. Played basketball.
Speaker 1: That yeah, boa I made sure I got kicked out
Speaker 1: immediately so that I got out there. You got me.
Speaker 1: I'm like done trip, I'm smoking weed on campus. I'm
Speaker 1: I painted a fucking goat into a zebra. We took
Speaker 1: the paint down to there like six months Mississippi. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, but it was a co ed school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was bit just there so it was like college
Speaker 1: before college. That school actually made me want to go
Speaker 1: to college because I'm like, damn, I wasn't at home.
Speaker 1: I'm like and it was bitches. I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 1: go to school anyway. I'm like, fuck, I should have.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I ain't in l A. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, if this school could exist
Speaker 1: in LA where I'll be at school, it'll be what
Speaker 1: I just need to get back to my people, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Especially when I was in
Speaker 1: high school, everybody having fun, I'm calling in It's like
Speaker 1: fuck yeah yeah, so uh yeah, I transferred there. So
Speaker 1: when I end up going twelfth grade, I don't have
Speaker 1: too many like tapes and all that shit. So I'm
Speaker 1: really not going to fucking d one. This is my life. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I ended up working out the
Speaker 1: whole year with the team. Still we end up winning
Speaker 1: state championship whatever, And I fucking go to Clark because
Speaker 1: that's the only school that I applied for. Like, I
Speaker 1: was no fam you and Clark, but the Clarks HBCU.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so I was only going there because my
Speaker 1: sister lived by Clark. I'm like, the only where I'm
Speaker 1: going to college if I go to Clark. I want
Speaker 1: to go to the family. No, it ain't even that.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Atlanta. Now, mind you my
Speaker 1: sister telling me like, you're making music cheesy? No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about it. Yeah, we used to
Speaker 1: like pop feels and freestyle. I always could rap, like,
Speaker 1: but I never ever like was writing raps.
Speaker 2: Right, you never like recording yourself. You're just walking around
Speaker 2: with funk around.
Speaker 1: I probably record, like if everybody right there, like if
Speaker 1: I pull up on the rapper Homie session and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, let me try to ye, I mean, but
Speaker 1: I never took rap like it was just something like
Speaker 1: I mean like I never accumulated CDs or anything like that. Boll,
Speaker 1: So move on. I get kicked out from right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I get kicked out, well, mind you, I already
Speaker 1: know big meat and all that when I got there.
Speaker 1: Not big I keep saying big me. I knew big meat,
Speaker 1: but I knew to be a mess. As soon as
Speaker 1: I got there, I was with being mess. You give
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we was moving around before me
Speaker 1: got locked up, Yeah for sure. And uh we was
Speaker 1: moving around, rotating. So my name was already like all
Speaker 1: that little dude that'd be with them. So after I
Speaker 1: got kicked out of college, I'm just outside now and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going back to l A. It's
Speaker 1: too much money out here. Yeah, Pee, wee ended up
Speaker 1: getting out of prison. And then I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's like my brother in law.
Speaker 2: So wait, Pee, is your brother in law? Yeah? So
Speaker 2: his bro his brother was with my sister that Atlanta. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you already had like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they broke up. They were together for like
Speaker 1: years years, like you know, I mean that ship just
Speaker 1: like people, was like family. So it's like nigga, all right, Boa,
Speaker 1: what we gonna do? He came home from jail. He
Speaker 1: just like we like fuck it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We ship started sucking around, rapping, doing what we was doing.
Speaker 1: That's how it started.
Speaker 2: Because it was Pee Wee. Like I think I kind
Speaker 2: of started to hear about Pee Wee and like.
Speaker 1: This was like, oh wait.
Speaker 2: About me? So like that was the n p A
Speaker 2: ten seventeen ship. Yeah, yeah, Pee's dope man. I feel
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get enough love or props when it
Speaker 2: comes to.
Speaker 1: Like Pee Wee a and is social as he supposed
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: Man. Him and Scooter, I feel like, are just fucking
Speaker 2: They just they're like, for whatever reason, just.
Speaker 1: Street legends, a k ak snap out of the street legend.
Speaker 2: Pee's dope man. So you end up working with Pee Wee?
Speaker 2: How does this? Because I met you through Kid Ink?
Speaker 2: So how do you become because were you like back
Speaker 2: gang essentially? So how do you end up working with Ink?
Speaker 2: Because you were like his shot doesn't so you guys
Speaker 2: are related. So you and are related. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I just see it related. Oh okay, I see it's
Speaker 1: my real cousin his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shout to his wife. By the way, I'm so
Speaker 2: happy that we have a hip hop couple that's fucking
Speaker 2: locked still together.
Speaker 1: They've been together high school. That sh it is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they are locked in. Okay. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: always so, I didn't know that you were related to
Speaker 2: his wife, who's a sweetheart. Shot to her, she's amazing.
Speaker 2: I always just assumed that, like you were just like
Speaker 2: an artist that he fucked with that was in town,
Speaker 2: and like it also probably didn't hurt that you were
Speaker 2: like yeah rick baby, right. So when you guys are
Speaker 2: on the road, I'm like, well, he's kind of got
Speaker 2: a street guy on the crew.
Speaker 1: You understanding the play? Yeah, hell no, that's that's family.
Speaker 1: So it was just like, yeah, I was fucking up.
Speaker 1: He like, man, come on, let me help you out
Speaker 1: go because he taught me how to like like rap
Speaker 1: and put that ship together. He used to really record
Speaker 1: you while I was trying to know.
Speaker 2: He's so good, like he gets so like people don't
Speaker 2: understand he's a great producer, he's a great engineer, and
Speaker 2: he's just like he understands like the musicality of like
Speaker 2: song structure and like melody in such a crazy way.
Speaker 1: And that's why he can't make He can't go to
Speaker 1: making dumb down songs like he ys like making music
Speaker 1: that's not making music.
Speaker 2: But like I even think, like the first record that
Speaker 2: like really went to radio was Time of Your Life,
Speaker 2: which is like such a crazy record when you hear,
Speaker 2: you're just like this song could pop any.
Speaker 1: Any wherever you are, even even heading back. It creeped
Speaker 1: on everybody helling back. Wasn't even like the fucking song
Speaker 1: that was picked to hit the radio?
Speaker 2: Is that the one that m g K was on?
Speaker 1: That you could tell him? Man?
Speaker 2: I know, but there was what was m g K
Speaker 2: record that went platinum out of nowhere? I remember, we'll
Speaker 2: post it. But it's crazy to see, Like, so I
Speaker 2: don't know so that whole that whole era, like you
Speaker 2: end up working with Ink?
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 2: At what point in time was this? Was this prior
Speaker 2: to him really kind of commercially having his moment because
Speaker 2: I remember he was doing like him and I remember
Speaker 2: when Ink came to Phoenix. Early on it was him
Speaker 2: and either Dizzy Riot or Hopson. It was Dizzy and
Speaker 2: Fear it was, And I remember the show sold out,
Speaker 2: but everybody was there to see kid Ink, and my
Speaker 2: boy was there and he was sending me pictures, like, brother,
Speaker 2: the fucking this kid Ink dude was like and I'd
Speaker 2: heard of him, but I had always when I when
Speaker 2: I heard his name and I saw he was a
Speaker 2: guy with a lot of tattoos, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course there's a guy named kid Ink with a
Speaker 2: lot of tattoos, because.
Speaker 1: There was another guy that was like that Ink monsters, yes,
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, they used to always they
Speaker 1: used to always confuse.
Speaker 2: But then you'd hear Kiddink's music and you'd be like, oh.
Speaker 1: This its crazy. Yeah, So you think that comes from
Speaker 1: understanding me?
Speaker 2: What year did you, guys, Like, what year did you
Speaker 2: officially start rolling with him and learning music from him
Speaker 2: and doing all that?
Speaker 1: Two thousand after I got shot in the neck, for sure,
Speaker 1: Well right before I got shot in the neck, like
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: Oh so early.
Speaker 1: I've been that was what you said when I started
Speaker 1: doing the music. But I've been supporting him since, like
Speaker 1: two thousand and like eight, like right when he as
Speaker 1: soon as he start doing the rap thing, because like
Speaker 1: he was doing the producers, you know, producers are quiet.
Speaker 2: You don't know what he was making beats for people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you don't know what doing stuff like Sean Kingston and.
Speaker 1: Diddy and type of different people.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're talking about kidding obviously. H would you
Speaker 2: say INC was kind of like your real real introduction into.
Speaker 1: Like that was my big break into the industry.
Speaker 2: I mean you get to see the world, right, well,
Speaker 2: well maybe not the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, the world.
Speaker 2: We're not Canada, though, Well I can't go to Canada.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's the only place you can't
Speaker 2: see is Canada.
Speaker 1: Right, Australia can't go to Australia.
Speaker 2: But you were able to go to Europe. You were
Speaker 2: able to go to some of those like crazy European
Speaker 2: tours or whatever.
Speaker 1: B and B we're opening for one of those tours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: over there. But I went multiple times, like I've been
Speaker 1: overseeing so many times with him, it was unreal. I
Speaker 1: was starting to feel like I wasn't from America anymore
Speaker 1: for a second. That It's crazy we were out there
Speaker 1: ninety days at a time.
Speaker 2: I felt like once a year he go on one
Speaker 2: of those runs, right, like.
Speaker 1: For sure you go run the bag up right before
Speaker 1: Christmas with him. I never did Dubai with him, never
Speaker 1: did Dubai with him, because once Dubai start coming around,
Speaker 1: I start having like legal issues to why I couldn't
Speaker 1: travel at all.
Speaker 2: What ended up being the reason why you had to
Speaker 2: go sit down for three and a half years.
Speaker 1: So we were still at jackets. Man, I'll just play.
Speaker 1: I might as well just say it, because every time
Speaker 1: I tried to fuck it explain myself. It sounds terrible
Speaker 1: that I was even with a dude that was steal
Speaker 1: some jackets. Like, but what happened? I went to the
Speaker 1: Babe store. I had an altercation with somebody at the
Speaker 1: Babe store about yeah, Fairfax, but it was like about
Speaker 1: something else. It was the manager that did something to
Speaker 1: one of my people out of the workplace. I told
Speaker 1: him come outside, we chopping it up. It gets heated.
Speaker 1: The dude that I'm with sneaks off into the store
Speaker 1: while everybody's fucking not paying attention. He goes into the
Speaker 1: fucking storage room and steals like eight Babe jackets. It
Speaker 1: comes running out and knocks over a fucking uh ladder,
Speaker 1: so it alerts everybody and then they start fighting him
Speaker 1: and shit and all that, and like I'm breaking up
Speaker 1: the fight, I'm telling him what the fuck are you
Speaker 1: doing stealing? Like you know what I'm saying, like, but
Speaker 1: it's no audio on the camera. I'm like yelling at
Speaker 1: him on the camera the whole time. Yeah, they get
Speaker 1: off of him, whatever the case is, and uh, he
Speaker 1: ends up leaving with me. So they say that I'm
Speaker 1: a part of the crime because I left with him,
Speaker 1: But I was getting I really was.
Speaker 2: Did he like on up and be like no, it
Speaker 2: was on me?
Speaker 1: No, he did some most shit and he told on
Speaker 1: like he got like three fold dudes, life over that
Speaker 1: shit too, not over that ribery, like him fighting that
Speaker 1: case and trying to get itself out of it. He
Speaker 1: told on some murders. Jesus, That's that's crazy, bro, that
Speaker 1: is crazy. It's like one of my day one, Nigga.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know you had that in you. My boy,
Speaker 1: as crazy as he.
Speaker 2: Goes, it's such a weird moment to like get caught
Speaker 2: on camp. It's just such a it's like a flashing
Speaker 2: the pan incident where you're like, this ship is not
Speaker 2: like a normal.
Speaker 1: Dub caught the case over that ship that was my
Speaker 1: cribby dusted up. Yeah, that's why codefitted wow, because he
Speaker 1: picked up a jacket off the g because the jackets
Speaker 1: flew everywhere. It was everybody. He grabbed the jacket, but
Speaker 1: they got his license plate number when he grabbed the jacket,
Speaker 1: So they were just like, I don't know because of
Speaker 1: the fight and the damages that were done to the
Speaker 1: employees that ran up, like they I feel like we
Speaker 1: should have filed a lawsuit on them because like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like, are you allowed to chase somebody out the
Speaker 1: store and fight them over the inventory? I know it
Speaker 1: says in the rule book.
Speaker 2: You probably give it up you could, which is crazy, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like I know the law,
Speaker 1: but I was in jail, so there was no way
Speaker 1: I could, you know what I mean, Because it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: that can't be in you guys's handbook to chase a
Speaker 1: loss prevention handbook because it's like let them go and
Speaker 1: call the police. Not supposed to do anything physical, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and they they wanted me to tell on these same murders.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So they tried, yeah, that
Speaker 1: my boy was telling them. He was telling them on
Speaker 1: some murders. So they kept like, oh, you're co defending.
Speaker 1: Tell me told us that you know something. Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know nothing, don't you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: So that's why it was prolonged, and COVID came around,
Speaker 1: made my case stretch even longer, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And I ended up getting out with time served,
Speaker 1: but they charged us with robbery.
Speaker 2: Jesus, So you're you incarcerated? Were you incarcerated when n
Speaker 2: It passed? What was that environment like? Like how how
Speaker 2: was that received in jail? Like what was the the
Speaker 2: the mood like in there? Because Man, I was on
Speaker 2: the radio the day it was the Sunday he passed,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't I had a really good relationship with Nip,
Speaker 2: you know, and I couldn't even tell you, man, I've
Speaker 2: never experienced anything like being in la.
Speaker 1: It's day today, this is his birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just I've never experienced like Kobe died
Speaker 2: and like and listen, man I shed a tear for
Speaker 2: Kobe too, but it was not like when Nip died
Speaker 2: that ship with Kobe. But when Nip passed, it felt
Speaker 2: you could like, Bro, I've never.
Speaker 1: Seen like a city heartbroken like that the jail, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I never seen nig niggas that's supposed to
Speaker 1: hate the hood. They cry and the enemies cry. They like, man,
Speaker 1: this fucked up. Then when they find out that didn't
Speaker 1: know it'd be doing to him too, he like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's like everybody fuck with Nip. Everybody listened to him,
Speaker 1: no matter if they try to act all like fuck
Speaker 1: Nip woo whoop. At the end of the day, everybody
Speaker 1: fuck with Nipsey, you know what I mean. Like in
Speaker 1: it show like the whole the South Side is for sure.
Speaker 1: You know they love Nippsey, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They was fucked up about it. Everybody was fucked up.
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy because I'm like, because Op told me.
Speaker 1: He like, hey, Bro called in to see they say
Speaker 1: Nip just got killed through Christal Sauce and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: stop playing with me. He like, he like, but this
Speaker 1: is my boy. I'm like, why are you Why is
Speaker 1: you playing with mom? Boy? He like, no, I'm serious,
Speaker 1: and then he like you can see like a tear
Speaker 1: trickling there. I'm like, what the fuck? I get to
Speaker 1: the phone, I'm like hey, They like yeah. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like what? He like? Uh, call right back.
Speaker 1: We're about to tell you what happened. We're gonna tell
Speaker 1: you who it was. I called back and they tell me,
Speaker 1: like they figure out how to tell me. When they
Speaker 1: tell me, I'm like, what the fuck is going on
Speaker 1: out there? Like, how the fuck did he Where did
Speaker 1: he even come from? How did they get into it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like that ship was crazy?
Speaker 2: Bro? Did you know Eric Holder at all?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 2: Like did you have any sort of like what you.
Speaker 1: Used to call me? You didn't always call me break
Speaker 1: baby right shitty?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember. I remember having that conversation with it Will,
Speaker 2: Like this guy's got to change his name because he's
Speaker 2: never I can't say his name on the radio.
Speaker 1: You're the one that made me change my name.
Speaker 2: You don't know that because it was baby.
Speaker 1: It was break baby shit tro.
Speaker 2: Sh trow shit trow, That's what it was. I remember, Like, Bro,
Speaker 2: I can't say his name on the radio, I can't play.
Speaker 1: His music, but you know my street name is Shitty.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so you knew Eric. Yeah I'm a little shitty,
Speaker 2: So you knew him pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah damn that ship's great. Yeah I know him knowing
Speaker 1: So when you found out it was him fucked me up.
Speaker 1: It was like, God, damn, like what the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on? Like you know what I mean, It's like
Speaker 1: that shit just was like what the fuck? Like it
Speaker 1: took me from crying to like no tears because it's like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? Like the fuck going on
Speaker 1: out there? Like you know what I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: ask nobody everybody else in here bit in jail, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I can't ask nobody what's going on, how,
Speaker 1: what's the backstory or nothing.
Speaker 2: So I just know this and I know that that
Speaker 2: shit's crazy. Man. Do you think it was like some
Speaker 2: shit that because I feel like it came off like
Speaker 2: he was obviously, I don't know if it was like
Speaker 2: it just came off like like something like some heartless
Speaker 2: shit or some shit that like maybe like a crackhead
Speaker 2: or dope feeding type thing would do.
Speaker 1: Like you hear so many different definitely off drugs though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely off like method all type of other
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean whatever you know, yeah, what
Speaker 1: you living like that whatever come across your plate. So, uh,
Speaker 1: he was he was definitely off drugs. And uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wasn't there for the conversation, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, So I can't tell you what was
Speaker 1: said what was not. Obviously it was something that set
Speaker 1: heavy on his brain and and he doubled back and
Speaker 1: did whatever he did. You know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: he's already accute. I mean, God found guilty, but he
Speaker 1: kilty over pondering too much, thinking too much over something
Speaker 1: where it's like this is a rumor in the hood.
Speaker 1: If you know that you didn't do it, then leave,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like you have to do. You
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing right there with the funk that you doubled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just double. Your life's over and you and you
Speaker 1: know that your your your boy? Who this your brother? Me?
Speaker 1: You know? I fuck with this dude on the day
Speaker 1: to day like this is my dude. Like you get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you you you you take your
Speaker 1: something away from everybody. You ain't thinking about it like
Speaker 1: you could have double back and fuck cut. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I mean or whatever whatever you was
Speaker 1: gonna do, Like it was a gay Like why would
Speaker 1: you throw your life away on camera? And you gotta
Speaker 1: be on drugs? You know what I'm saying, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you know you're not getting away with this. You out
Speaker 1: here with your shirt off, you're doing all this ship
Speaker 1: like you can't be thinking the right way.
Speaker 2: And tons of people are standing there who aren't him,
Speaker 2: Like you know, it was just it was just to me,
Speaker 2: it was like one of the more and like I
Speaker 2: didn't you know, it just seems.
Speaker 1: Like I'm ready to go out type ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some suicide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it was, Like, I'm ready to go out.
Speaker 1: Fuck it. That's the last thing I'm gonna hear about
Speaker 1: some stages like that. I don't know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, like recipes nip though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was a great guy. Man, he was an
Speaker 2: amazing I was gonna say for you, like, uh, you've
Speaker 2: gotten into this new space where your media personality, right,
Speaker 2: So it's different for you, I'm sure being on camera
Speaker 2: all day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, way different? Have you.
Speaker 2: Because you obviously represent what you represent and you also
Speaker 2: are on camera every day? So have you like, what
Speaker 2: has been the adjustment for you to be Like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I have to still be who I am, but I
Speaker 2: also want to be a professional and grow within this
Speaker 2: new world that I'm getting into because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you see that there is a very
Speaker 2: lucrative content world, right, I mean you see a d
Speaker 2: and and and Trell left and they're doing well. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know, I know Adam doesn't want yeah, but they're
Speaker 2: doing well. Yeah. So it's like there's obviously like this
Speaker 2: is like a new a new frontier for you. So
Speaker 2: like how are you adjusting being you unapologetically and represent
Speaker 2: what you represent well also being a professional because I
Speaker 2: think you did it pretty well on the snoopy badass
Speaker 2: thing that I saw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm dedicating all my time to this. Like
Speaker 1: it's at a certain point you gotta hit a growth
Speaker 1: growth spurt and understand the growth spurt, like sometimes people
Speaker 1: grow and they don't understand it, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Or like we go through things like I
Speaker 1: literally damn near lost it all this year and got
Speaker 1: it back off of just doing this, You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, When the whole time I've been out here
Speaker 1: scrambling trying to figure out all.
Speaker 2: Right, this how this how fig music?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like no, I'm talking about the streets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but the music too. You get what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just like you play one foot in, one foot out,
Speaker 1: and no, this is what I want to do, and
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do, But you're not
Speaker 1: giving this ship on the side that could almost pay
Speaker 1: you quadruple or a hundred times more depend on how
Speaker 1: much work you put in. You not giving this no attention.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it got to be like took from out
Speaker 1: your face so you can focus on one thing, and
Speaker 1: and like when you see that you're kind of like
Speaker 1: chosen for this space, and people kind of fuck with
Speaker 1: you in this space and they're like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you be a fool not to capitalize off of
Speaker 1: what you got going on and not just give it
Speaker 1: you all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, like you've done a really good job.
Speaker 2: Like I always I told us to Adam, I was like,
Speaker 2: what I like about brick Baby's You're like a really
Speaker 2: measured guy on camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I'm I'm too calm like him
Speaker 1: yelling and disagreeing what I told him. What was not
Speaker 1: about to happen in the interview. Who wins out of that.
Speaker 2: Right, Because I think like a lot of people would
Speaker 2: be like, you know, because when I when I when
Speaker 2: that's what I told he had him the same ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, bro brick babies, like very naturally, Like
Speaker 2: I think I text you too, like are you're really
Speaker 2: good at this shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah you did you know, Like.
Speaker 2: I think I would like to see you just do
Speaker 2: more like one on one ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm That's why I'm at
Speaker 1: No Jumper though, because I'm learning from somebody that's like
Speaker 1: one of the best, Like and you can say what
Speaker 1: you want, but like when you line up the best
Speaker 1: podcasters and I'm learning from some one of the top
Speaker 1: dogs in the podcast game, and it's like I don't
Speaker 1: know how to like if I just jump on and
Speaker 1: just if the break baby from when I started going
Speaker 1: viral and seeing the internet was fucking with me and
Speaker 1: all that shit. If I was to just start asking
Speaker 1: somebody questions on camera, I wouldn't have it written down.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be I would just be having a conversation
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't know which way to swing ship and
Speaker 1: to you give what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think you just got to learn it, just like
Speaker 2: a combo.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you know it's a convo, but what
Speaker 1: type of convo?
Speaker 2: Because I could have any type of different men crip
Speaker 2: mad convo with you too, which is hilarious, ye know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like I gotta for me. It takes me
Speaker 1: to separate and learn how to articulate. Just just be
Speaker 1: on one type of time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So once I get myself to gather, isn't nothing you
Speaker 1: can tell me, Like we're sitting right here, had you
Speaker 1: want to do anything else, I don't even gotta yet.
Speaker 1: We don't gotta yield. You just get to it. It
Speaker 1: ain't no point of doing all the barking like, it
Speaker 1: ain't no point of that.
Speaker 2: And I also think like it's important to understand, like,
Speaker 2: hey man, we're grown now, like we already Like if
Speaker 2: you you've sat down, you've done everything you need to do.
Speaker 2: At what point in time do you what do you
Speaker 2: have to prove to anybody?
Speaker 1: Like I'd rather you know, they gonna test you, they
Speaker 1: gonna test you as as a black in the streets
Speaker 1: or just saying, you from the streets, they gonna test
Speaker 1: you to theday you die. I for the blacks like
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, I grow up not like that, but
Speaker 1: motherfucker understands, like we're grown that kid thing.
Speaker 2: Because it's almost like people get angry at you if
Speaker 2: you're mature, if you mature past the the obvious immaturity
Speaker 2: that is with the street ship, if you think about it,
Speaker 2: is extremely It's like an immature lifestyle, right, You're supposed
Speaker 2: to be extremely reactive to things that normal people wouldn't
Speaker 2: be reactive to. And it's like, yo, if I already
Speaker 2: got through that part of my life and I'm still here,
Speaker 2: and yo, I'm I'm growing up now, Like like what
Speaker 2: the And it's like I saw people give him Jezy
Speaker 2: ship because like he was like the bigger man with
Speaker 2: the Gucci ship. I don't know, man, Jesus Jesu sold out.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what did you want j Z to do that?
Speaker 2: You want GZ to not wear a suit and go
Speaker 2: do a podcast and write a book, and like it's
Speaker 2: like you you know, I mean, that's.
Speaker 1: The thing else was to do, was physically do something.
Speaker 1: They got they both got paid, and they're saying.
Speaker 2: Did what he did.
Speaker 1: He went over there, he went over whatever he was
Speaker 1: gonna do. But at the end of the day, what
Speaker 1: cup supposed to fight the nigga for the world right there?
Speaker 2: And Gucci come out and said he kind of regretted
Speaker 2: how he handled that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, at the end of the day, because Gucci
Speaker 1: felt like a kid. His girl told him, you kind
Speaker 1: of you know, I mean, that's when when you had
Speaker 1: that conversation with your wife and the like, I was
Speaker 1: kind of childish, like yeah, damn you think so, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, because a nigga ain't
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty eight no more, like it ain't. I mean,
Speaker 1: nigga ain't even that shit ain't even it doesn't add up,
Speaker 1: Like you want me to keep on standing outside either
Speaker 1: selling drugs or holding guns, whatever the case is. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, because you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: there and don't be protected whatever it is at thirty five,
Speaker 1: keep going to jail making.
Speaker 2: And also that rather than me starting a career.
Speaker 1: And doing what the fuck I'm doing to elevate, like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose that over anything right now, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, here, who are you to
Speaker 1: your children.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, for real, who are you to your kids?
Speaker 1: Period?
Speaker 2: That's all you should worry about, Like who are.
Speaker 1: You to your children? As long as you taking Like
Speaker 1: these are people that and not all of them, but
Speaker 1: the people that they want us to be, Like all right,
Speaker 1: you going to jail, you missing out on your kids,
Speaker 1: Like it's no way that you're taking care of your
Speaker 1: kids to your full possitive, like that capability if you incarcerated,
Speaker 1: if you're on parole all the time, if you got
Speaker 1: to check in here, you can't go here, you can't
Speaker 1: take them to this tournament out here, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You give what I'm saying. It's so many restrictions that
Speaker 1: the streets put in your life, Like and I got
Speaker 1: that out my mind song where I say I'm one
Speaker 1: foot in the game, one foot out, like I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about going all in in the blind like going legit.
Speaker 1: It's been crossing my mind, Like I was just talking
Speaker 1: about me just being in the streets and like Nigga,
Speaker 1: I said, the streets hold me back and been blacking
Speaker 1: my shine, Like you give what I'm saying, Like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, everything that comes to the
Speaker 1: end comes to the end because of the street ties
Speaker 1: and the motherfuckering' never gave the legal laying a shot ever.
Speaker 1: You give what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to give it a real shot.
Speaker 1: So why can't the nigga put everything into it like
Speaker 1: I put everything into the streets.
Speaker 2: Because guess what, if you're one with it out, that's
Speaker 2: just gonna follow you to wherever you're trying to get
Speaker 2: the legal shit together.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to tell you. So it's like
Speaker 1: you gotta it's not bounce out the streets or oh,
Speaker 1: disconnect from Oh I'm not from here no more, or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm forever gonna be who I am. You
Speaker 1: give what I'm saying, but that shit can't control one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of my day, no more like every everybody's opinion.
Speaker 1: It can't. Like I'm a grown ass men. You could
Speaker 1: talk to them kids like that and try to get
Speaker 1: them together. I didn't already went tested and approved, been
Speaker 1: through all that little shit right there. You're not about
Speaker 1: to try to run me through the wringer like one fucker.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even going for that. I don't
Speaker 1: even respond like nigga man, you know you can't do that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I saw what I really thought
Speaker 2: was dope was and I told him this at the time.
Speaker 2: One of the early interviews to you, Rold, they don't
Speaker 2: know Jumper was the interview Jaystone, Yeah, which was like
Speaker 2: a big deal for people don't know from LA. Like
Speaker 2: two gangs are obviously not friendly, right, would you ever
Speaker 2: interview somebody from that side just to try to show
Speaker 2: people it's you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, well, uh, I wouldn't mind interviewing somebody from
Speaker 1: that side. They already know me, they know how I'm coming.
Speaker 1: Like me and Treill and Nitty and all that, we've
Speaker 1: been homies for years. I wouldn't mind having Nitty on
Speaker 1: or or going on with Trell or whatever, just sitting
Speaker 1: down and talking. Everybody know that were cool. We both
Speaker 1: say it all the time. So I mean, like we
Speaker 1: both shot each other out, like all the shit that's
Speaker 1: going on with what they got going though, it's funny
Speaker 1: to me and yuh me, I'm right with no Jumper
Speaker 1: because I'm over there and at content purposes. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean all I see in is content competition. I don't
Speaker 1: see nothing physically ever happening. That's what I'm like, I
Speaker 1: make jokes from time to time when they make jokes
Speaker 1: like fuck no Jumper, I make a joke too, but
Speaker 1: they know I'm making jokes like you you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I hate the water down like that,
Speaker 1: But I just two gang members beef. We already enemies
Speaker 1: that could have been beefing beef. There's other like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Have you had to real like I gotta ask you
Speaker 2: this because there was a couple of times like where
Speaker 2: I know add like kind of had some off camera
Speaker 2: combos with Adam about certain ship have you because Adam
Speaker 2: is charged up right now. He went in on you
Speaker 2: on his IG story today.
Speaker 1: He went crazy today and he was like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's the creatinine. Do you ever feel
Speaker 2: like you got to kind of like have you or
Speaker 2: would you ever like if you think he's getting a
Speaker 2: little playing like crossing the line a little, because you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, ad pun Trow, these
Speaker 2: guys are like real dudes, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and we're and like you said, outside of the content space,
Speaker 2: you're friendly with these guys. Would you ever like have
Speaker 2: that like has it gotten to the point apparently if
Speaker 2: it hasn't yet, if you haven't had to talk, but
Speaker 2: would you ever like pull out into the side and
Speaker 2: be like, hey man, like you're playing with fire at
Speaker 2: this point, because I just saw the DMS with Heather
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, don't put her dms online.
Speaker 2: That's not nice.
Speaker 1: This the thing he feels like, they get to say
Speaker 1: whatever they want to say, and he got to sit
Speaker 1: back and listen.
Speaker 2: Has been quiet for a long time, and so he just.
Speaker 1: Like fuck it, like like motherfuckers wanted to keep on
Speaker 1: doing it, and just you know, I mean, he was
Speaker 1: calling him the no Jump or react I saw the
Speaker 1: no Jump reaction page.
Speaker 2: Well, you're right. I do feel like for a very
Speaker 2: long time he kind of like was not acknowledging it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if he gets something off, it's just it's
Speaker 1: like fuck it, Like what we gonna do here? Like
Speaker 1: you mean, like because he feels like the people who
Speaker 1: are doing this for content purposes or whatever they doing
Speaker 1: it are the people that really walked away, right, and
Speaker 1: they really didn't get fired, you give what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it was a whole lot behind what really went on.
Speaker 1: So he like, all right, y'all play victim enough. But
Speaker 1: now every day, like, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I'm not telling my side of the story. Now he's
Speaker 1: telling the side of the story. He's going wild, he's
Speaker 1: going he's going up what you call it, hang out
Speaker 1: with your hangout. That's what he's doing right now.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say for you, Like, I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of misconceptions about Adam, but I think one
Speaker 2: of the main things that people will talk about is
Speaker 2: how like, for whatever reason, he's extremely infatuated with gang culture. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you look at the previous regime of co
Speaker 2: hosts and the new regime of co hosts, it's Cripsah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he fuss with the crips.
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Speaker 2: let's get back to the interview. The narrative about Adam
Speaker 2: is like, hey, he's infatuated with you know, black violence,
Speaker 2: gang culture, this, that and the fourth. But then like
Speaker 2: you'll realize, like Adam, I think, is just really like
Speaker 2: a very curious dude who's just like a true content creator.
Speaker 2: So like, you know, these are the people he's around.
Speaker 2: And I don't feel like he like purposely sought brick
Speaker 2: Baby out because you were a crip. Who you say, what, No, Adam,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Adam. Oh about the misperceptions of Adam.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, we Me and me and Adam
Speaker 1: been cool since like twoenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: Because I think people are like, yo, okay, ad and
Speaker 2: t Roll left and he just went and got more crips.
Speaker 1: But me and Dub, like Dub is like an honorary
Speaker 1: crib he all, he doesn't hang with the grip and yeah,
Speaker 1: so uh, he's always been cool with Dub and the
Speaker 1: people that Dub bring around, and the fact that me
Speaker 1: and Dub have like a great relationship. That's how we
Speaker 1: even got closer than what we you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: were when we first met whatever it was. So when
Speaker 1: I came home, I came, I did the interview, I
Speaker 1: popped back up. I did an interview. Then I started
Speaker 1: like being on YouTube, but I didn't really understand. So
Speaker 1: I started reaching out like, hey, I did he like
Speaker 1: you should come on? Yeah, Like, and we start going
Speaker 1: into Hey, I feel like I'm ready to I mean hop.
Speaker 2: On camera like you guys already have in those conversations
Speaker 2: prior to eighty leaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we was already.
Speaker 2: I was already damn near coming in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because ad was there. Ad was there like
Speaker 1: multiple times when I was coming up there, like for
Speaker 1: like news and different little ship like that. So I
Speaker 1: didn't even see because I don't go home like this
Speaker 1: shit tires you out sometimes to where I don't go
Speaker 1: home and watch the ship we were doing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: give it, and then I go back and go watch it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So even if like I
Speaker 1: just seen Adie and Adam, so when I was seeing
Speaker 1: the headlines and all that shit like somebody leaving or whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't really want to get into
Speaker 1: the ship. That's going on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the mess because it's like gossip, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because if it's not coming to my phone directly, I'm
Speaker 1: not really so I'm like I was paying no attention
Speaker 1: to it. Then when it starts being everywhere, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, that ain't no clickbait type shit. You give
Speaker 1: what I'm saying like that, That's how slow I am.
Speaker 1: When I'm first coming in, I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: thinking they trying to get the numbers up or something.
Speaker 1: So now I'm saying, oh, it's Lush this that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's going down in this motherfucker. Like
Speaker 1: I'm texting Gajena trying to stand her ground, and then
Speaker 1: she go.
Speaker 2: That was a wild. That was an extremely wild, extremely
Speaker 2: wild a couple of days because I got uh hit
Speaker 2: up by Adam to come and fill in for Lush
Speaker 2: or fill in for whoever, not knowing that he had
Speaker 2: just fired Lush, and so I called a D and
Speaker 2: you know, Adam called me and told me what happened
Speaker 2: with Lush, and he was like, I need somebody tomorrow
Speaker 2: to be on the show. So I called a D
Speaker 2: and I was like Yo, what's the deal? You know,
Speaker 2: Like he's like, yo, do it tomorrow. It's like I
Speaker 2: think he's like, I'm about to leave you.
Speaker 1: Feel oh ship? Yeah, because I didn't talk to a
Speaker 1: d about it, but I already know what his response
Speaker 1: was gonna be to me. We already was there, so
Speaker 1: it was right. And then what do I I don't
Speaker 1: have a job, y'all leaven with that, Like I'm just
Speaker 1: getting you. Everybody's like, oh, you stayed? Are you? With
Speaker 1: no jump rofter that? So what who was offering me
Speaker 1: a spot? Where? That? Where? Who did I leave from? Stay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You already I'm not a part of that.
Speaker 2: Correct, that makes sense. I was gonna say, recently, you
Speaker 2: guys interviewed the gay crip guy, which was extremely interesting
Speaker 2: to say the least. I just like Sharp just in
Speaker 2: the corner, just like, what the fuck's happening?
Speaker 1: Not sharp?
Speaker 2: Hey, Kripak said some ship where he was like you
Speaker 2: know DP? What he educated the dude?
Speaker 1: Who what a DP was?
Speaker 2: He's like, not getting your whole asshole blown out by
Speaker 2: a bunch of N words.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, like, when you do an
Speaker 2: interview like that, do you hear about that from like
Speaker 2: you were like big homies, like, yo, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, so the big Uppies was bad, but
Speaker 1: they thought I was stamping homie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The whole time, I'm like letting him get his ship
Speaker 1: up and telling him like, nah, we ain't going for that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's removing or whatever. He's doing this, and like,
Speaker 2: how are you a gang member? You don't know what
Speaker 2: a DP is.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is it's like you guys are educating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling them. I'm like the lack of knowledge, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: you don't know what that is that you're saying that
Speaker 1: you from. So that's why I told him that, like
Speaker 1: all throughout the interview. Then at the end I really
Speaker 1: told him like they gotta watch it, man, they gotta
Speaker 1: watch it because the whole interview ain't out. He keep
Speaker 1: on serving clickbaiting click I mean clip after clip he does,
Speaker 1: you know he does. But once the whole interview dropped,
Speaker 1: the whole interview drop, you'll see what's going on. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely not stamping. No gay crip and he's from Hover.
Speaker 1: We don't don't really like you. I mean, like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna keep on saying that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I can't even in politics.
Speaker 1: Why I can't even politic on him. I can't give
Speaker 1: him a DP, beat him up or nothing, because he's not.
Speaker 2: Just a crazy movie that goes you know, I mean
Speaker 2: they got I just saw the clip and it was
Speaker 2: so funny. Shots kript Mak, who's one of the most
Speaker 2: wildly entertaining human beings that's ever walked the face of
Speaker 2: this earth. Oh goddamn, oh god, damn. Well listen man,
Speaker 2: uh you got Are you doing a weekly stream now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I'm doing a weekly straight break by brick Man. Uh.
Speaker 1: This week we're doing jail videos. So you already know
Speaker 1: we're going there to shyrag Rare. We going there the
Speaker 1: all type of ship.
Speaker 2: So what's the go to spread for you? If you
Speaker 2: had to make a spread right now out of jail,
Speaker 2: what are you putting in the spread?
Speaker 1: Uh? Noodles are no noodles noodles with noodles, all right,
Speaker 1: So I'm going, uh ti noodle with I go two
Speaker 1: packs of tie noodles with a pack of chicken noodles, right,
Speaker 1: bust them in half so they still get stringy. Uh,
Speaker 1: two packs of squeeze cheese, a half of a jalopeno
Speaker 1: squeeze cheese like a damn type of bar. Is that
Speaker 1: a pepper jack cheese bar? Half of that melded down
Speaker 1: with the cheese puffs. You gotta put the cheese puffs
Speaker 1: in the cheese too. And some people put cheeses on
Speaker 1: with the cheeses in there. Bon So gotta shake that up.
Speaker 1: Make the sauce that's cut up the chicken, warm it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Season the chicken, put a
Speaker 1: little bit of the tie sauce in there. Put it
Speaker 1: all together. That's the Alfredo in jail chicken, Alfred of
Speaker 1: I could do it with the mackerel too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I love it with the fish sometime.
Speaker 2: So weekly stream you're obviously on no jumper. How many
Speaker 2: times a week now? Two or three sometimes more?
Speaker 1: Man, it's been going up and going up right, So
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm in there, yo.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the gun of situations that
Speaker 2: you haven't ep with him.
Speaker 1: That ship?
Speaker 2: Because he's obviously your boy.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that's my boy like and he's
Speaker 1: going up right now like you mean, it is everywhere.
Speaker 1: So the whole ship is this right, Like, like I said,
Speaker 1: tell him and Slime get over their differences because I've
Speaker 1: known Jeff for longer. Yeah, I mean, I stand where
Speaker 1: I stand and I funk with him. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: my bro. But like dropping music and all that, they
Speaker 1: would have to definitely come to something to where it
Speaker 1: don't look like I'm choosing sides with somebody that did
Speaker 1: my little bro wrong. And I known him for longer,
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying, But he ain't.
Speaker 2: We don't even know how he did so, But this
Speaker 2: is this is my.
Speaker 1: Boy still, and that's what I'm telling everybody because the
Speaker 1: ship that he did for me when I needed him, Yeah, Gunner,
Speaker 1: the stuff that he did for me when I needed him,
Speaker 1: and you I mean the ship that motherfuckers I.
Speaker 2: Grew up with wouldn't have done.
Speaker 1: They never did. So it's like, and it's not even
Speaker 1: it's the small shit I'm talking about, not the obvious
Speaker 1: like of course he was up when I came home,
Speaker 1: but like just the small ship even from checking in
Speaker 1: when I first left to you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: just a little ship that you know, I mean, so
Speaker 1: a motherfucker always is here for you for advice, and
Speaker 1: we could always go because it's just like your cousin
Speaker 1: at to, like we can't even go out and do
Speaker 1: all that. No street ship, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like as far as but and I don't like taking
Speaker 1: a plea ain't telling right first and foremost, so it's
Speaker 1: not telling he thought.
Speaker 2: I actually think a lot of it is like like
Speaker 2: the outreage should be like if they're because he's just
Speaker 2: doing what like a lot everyone else did, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then.
Speaker 1: Everybody else.
Speaker 2: Narrative and we don't know how young Thug feels about it.
Speaker 1: Even slide Life shot you he's his career has been
Speaker 1: over with since then too, because if you think about
Speaker 1: but Theug, I mean, Gunna came back.
Speaker 2: But we don't know how Thug feels about any of this.
Speaker 2: I mean he saw. I mean, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, the bigger Gunna is, the better it is.
Speaker 2: He's still whitself on the label.
Speaker 1: So but listen to what I'm trying to tell you, Right,
Speaker 1: he didn't tell he took a plead. The ship that
Speaker 1: he said yes to was obvious. Why s L be
Speaker 1: at the street gay? Everybody in the city though that whatever.
Speaker 1: But the only way that that was cool was if
Speaker 1: everybody was in ingredients of you taking your deal at
Speaker 1: that time. Because if everybody could have got that deal,
Speaker 1: and even Thug when one year time served the rest
Speaker 1: of probation ten year probation, I feel like everybody would
Speaker 1: have just copped in, like all right, I'm off for
Speaker 1: everybody on this deal this and y'all do this. Y'all
Speaker 1: gonna be on probation for ten years. I feel like
Speaker 1: the whole case would have took that took that you
Speaker 1: give what I'm saying, but you can't do that and
Speaker 1: then have some people still going to trial and that's
Speaker 1: exactly and you're out fighting against and the perception of
Speaker 1: that is bad. Yeah, it's like you gotta kind of
Speaker 1: stay down with him and in LA like you get
Speaker 1: a violation for that, like you damn near not from
Speaker 1: there no more, but you get what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so it's just different, like but he don't if you
Speaker 1: don't have to sit on the stand and all that.
Speaker 1: They take all that into consideration too, that it was
Speaker 1: just a plete deal. What he what he's trying to
Speaker 1: get across to everybody else, Like it's just a plete deal.
Speaker 1: You copped out on some ship that we're that we're
Speaker 1: fighting against those, so it's like it's it different.
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Speaker 2: But look, you're killing it. Uh go follow him and
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Speaker 1: Feel we gonna be back with the music. We gonna
Speaker 1: do something. I told them I was gonna freestyle today,
Speaker 1: but I was hungry, so uh, we definitely gonna get
Speaker 1: back together. We you know, we family, my.
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