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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: The NFL using high tech research to design helmets for

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Speaker 2: each position. Helmets designed for where players line up.

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Speaker 3: A quarterback and a linebacker are not necessarily playing the

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Speaker 3: same sport on every play, and the frequency of their

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Speaker 3: head impacts demonstrates.

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Speaker 2: That researchers first analyzed game footage from some fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: on field concussions, who was involved, what position were they playing,

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Speaker 2: then reconstructed each one, gathering data from those tests and

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Speaker 2: sensors in the helmets to build a superior product.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I just don't quite understand why you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want the maximum protection helmet no matter what position you're in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've noticed recently there are a handful of guys

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Speaker 4: on the field that have kind of bigger, puffier looking

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Speaker 4: helmets on. And I haven't heard about there being any

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Speaker 4: downside to that design, right, Guys just think they look

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Speaker 4: goofy or what because if there's no they do. If

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Speaker 4: there's no downside's I realize I'm the punter and I

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Speaker 4: get tackled once a year, but I might as well

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Speaker 4: have the keep my brain from slashing around.

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Speaker 1: Helmet kind of fond of my brain. Yeah, exactly, unless

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Speaker 1: it's a different kind of helmet for repeated small impacts linemen,

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Speaker 1: which almost never are going to get the big slam

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Speaker 1: to the ground one hundred mile an hour right, right,

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Speaker 1: is a different sort of thing than I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good they're they're moving forward though. It's great sport.

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Speaker 4: America loves it. But the rates of the chronic u

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Speaker 4: cte is terrible. It's it's nightmarish. So yeah, glad to

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Speaker 4: see it. Speaking of the world of science, this is

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Speaker 4: an emerging field in art law first Amendment. Something a

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Speaker 4: synthetic media artist is appealing.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can't just throw around phrases. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what they mean. It isn't quotes.

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Speaker 4: What is that This guy creates art with ai synthetic

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Speaker 4: media artist. Yeah, and actually we both have seen this

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Speaker 4: piece of art.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what language this is.

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Speaker 4: It might be French, Theatra, the opera special.

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Speaker 1: The opera, theater spatial.

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Speaker 4: It won a big like State Fair art contest or

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Speaker 4: something like that, and then the guy revealed that it

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Speaker 4: was AI creator.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, he won the contest.

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Speaker 4: It's like an opera in a spaceport and you can

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Speaker 4: see out into space. That rings a bell for anybody anyway.

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Speaker 4: So the US Copyright Office denied him copyright registration, claiming that.

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Speaker 1: He used machines.

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Speaker 4: He didn't create it like an artist would, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's going to get flipped that decision.

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Speaker 1: It was creating using the AI tool mid journey.

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Speaker 4: They rejected his application, stating that the work lacked sufficient

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Speaker 4: human authorship as it was primarily generated by a I

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Speaker 4: oh coming up, one of the godfathers of AI says,

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Speaker 4: it's stumberding a cat.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it anyway. He dumber than a cat

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Speaker 1: stumberting a cat. Okay, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: So in his appeal, mister Allen, the artist argues that

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Speaker 4: the decision was influenced by negative media attention public backlash,

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Speaker 4: which led to bias. He asserts that the examiner of

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Speaker 4: the Copyright Office failed to recognize the extensive human effort

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Speaker 4: and careful direction he put into creating the image. Well, no,

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Speaker 4: I don't doubt that which have been involved. Hang on

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Speaker 4: now or don't hang on?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, and I'm just gonna see you have different categories.

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Speaker 1: There's the I created it with my mind and the

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Speaker 1: computer made it, or I did it with a brush

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Speaker 4: You know what, You're right, that's the simple wisdom of

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Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong, folks, the homespun wisdom. Ah, Judy and I

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Speaker 4: have frequent art galleries, and we fell in love with

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Speaker 4: this one artist who does this very thing. She creates

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Speaker 4: the art with artificial intelligence, and some of it is

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Speaker 4: very clever and funny and thought provoking, like every picture

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Speaker 4: tells a story. That sort of thing anyway, which is

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Speaker 4: also a fine Rod Stewart effort from the seventies. So,

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Speaker 4: but this dude created this image involving refining prompts through

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Speaker 4: an iterative process that took over one hundred hours and

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Speaker 4: six hundred prompts.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think he gets a copyright on that one hundred

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Speaker 4: hours worth of work on a single image.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. But somebody will be able to

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Speaker 1: do something very very similar with just a tiny tweak,

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Speaker 4: I think you would need to know his first five

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Speaker 4: and ninety nine prompts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll it'll be like the whole thing around music.

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Speaker 1: I heard the Sam Smith song stay with Me on

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Speaker 1: the radio the other day. Uh, the fact that he

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Speaker 1: got sued successfully by Tom Petty fort back Down is nuts.

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Speaker 4: I was in a store the other day, purveyor of

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Speaker 4: fine sippables, I think, yeah. And I don't know what

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Speaker 4: their playlist was, but if you know one of your

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Speaker 4: satellite radio platforms has derivative pop with zero attempted originality, that's.

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Speaker 1: What this was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, every song was like from Cookie Cutter, predictable,

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Speaker 4: the lyrics, the females sing, just all of it.

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Speaker 1: It was sick and sure and that's without AI, right,

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Speaker 1: So I don't understand how they'll come up with a

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Speaker 1: ferentiation for a copyright purposes on that. But my son

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Speaker 1: was messing around with photoshop. He wanted to get photoshop

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Speaker 1: on his computer and learn about it, and so I

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Speaker 1: did that. We got the free trial just in case

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Speaker 1: he didn't like it. And he was doing all kinds

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Speaker 1: of AI stuff on Photoshop, which I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: was a thing. He would he would he would grab

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Speaker 1: a picture of a valley from a Google image and

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Speaker 1: then he'd say, you know, put a unicorn over there,

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Speaker 1: and put a spaceship over there, and they'll make the

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Speaker 1: spaceship bigger. No, make the spaceship red and bigger. Make

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Speaker 1: the unicorn, you know, breathing fire or whatever, and it

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Speaker 1: would it would make it all immediately, and you could

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Speaker 1: tweak it a little bit here and there and everything

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Speaker 1: like that. It was cool. But anybody can do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it takes zero skill.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, what a wild time to be alive

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Speaker 4: fire breathing unicorns hard.

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Speaker 1: Yes on that by the way, interesting side note to

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Speaker 1: you heard of them? Please? Is he every time he

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Speaker 1: did it he got so anxious, he was miserable, and

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Speaker 1: so he finally decided he couldn't do it and we

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Speaker 1: deleted it from his computer. I mean he has anxiety

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Speaker 1: problems anyway, but huh, using photoshop made his anxiety go

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Speaker 1: through the roof. No idea? Why hum? Did he try

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Speaker 1: to explain why? He doesn't know why? Okay? Interesting? Huh?

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Speaker 4: So AI thinks sir, one of the AI Pioneers thinks

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Speaker 1: Run your game. But I was thinking if my twelve

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Speaker 1: he did, I thought, how's any sort of graphic designer

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Speaker 4: And I really like taking pictures, and I have a

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Speaker 4: But how long is it going to be before people see,

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Speaker 4: you know, the picture I'm so proud of, I mean,

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Speaker 4: got the perfect shot at the perfect second, an eagle

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Speaker 1: That's true. Why would it? Yeah, why would it strike

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Speaker 1: you as worth staring at it? All? Right? Yeah? Yeah, huh.

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Speaker 4: Wildlife photography to be my equivalent of hunting, because I

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Speaker 4: have no desire to kill anything. If you do, go ahead,

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Speaker 4: I don't care. I'm not anti hunting at all, but

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Speaker 4: I just I've never felt the draw. Really, maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll murder them. Yeah, I don't know. So Yan lecuon,

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Speaker 1: They're trying to strike. Actually they're eating. They're eating of

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Speaker 4: Does seem to be solid basis to believe the folks

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Speaker 1: Fine, yeah, I get woken up every night right now

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Canada geese are a scourge. They are poop machines.

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Speaker 4: They ruin golf courses.

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Speaker 1: American geese's jobs, exactly the threat from the north.

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Speaker 4: I call them, Where were we? Ah yon Lecoon? I

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Speaker 4: hope I'm pronouncing mister Lecun's name correctly. He helped give

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Speaker 4: birth to today's AI boom. He's one of the godfathers

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Speaker 4: of AI. But he thinks many experts are exaggerating its

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Speaker 4: power in peril, and he wants people to know it.

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Speaker 4: Who's the old British chap won the Nobel Prize. Who

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Speaker 4: who's really Jeff free Hinton, hasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who's really leading the Hey robot overlords. They're going

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Speaker 4: to drain your vital juices and take over humanaged.

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Speaker 1: And so so what's his name from Google? And you

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Speaker 1: know lots of people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, Lacun disagrees completely.

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Speaker 1: I kind of hope he's right. There's a lot more

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Speaker 4: He says, you're gonna have to partner my French But

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Speaker 4: that's complete bs. He actually sounds like a really charming

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Speaker 4: and likable guy. He's won every computing award that's ever existed. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to scroll down to the part that's git.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting. He got into a nasty argument with Elon

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Speaker 4: And nobody has found that name triggering for a century. Either,

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getdy Live, go over to Tim Walls. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Of different things, but it all comes together so beautifully,

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Speaker 8: Just like the immigrants who are ruining this country.

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Speaker 4: of it exactly. Well, did you read the Washington Post

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Speaker 4: story about that. I read something about that that there's

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Speaker 4: like four words of her entire time in Montreal in

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Speaker 4: her autobiography.

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Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing. Yes, it is she's trying to

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Speaker 1: hide is that she never talks about and it was

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Speaker 1: all of high school plus a year. It's not like

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Speaker 1: those are minor years of your life in terms of

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Speaker 1: shaping you. And she had like a paragraph about it

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Speaker 1: in her book about her life, and the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: contacted her and had questions about it, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to talk to them. She wouldn't talk to the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post about her MONTREALI years. So I do falter

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Speaker 1: for the fact that she's hiding right a chunk of

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Speaker 1: her life. There's obviously a reason for that. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: fit her personal narrative. But I wonder if the reason

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Speaker 1: that she's, you know, fallen so flat with some of

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Speaker 1: those ethnic groups is that she's trying to pretend to

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Speaker 1: be straight. She's inauthentic. Well, that that might be with

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Speaker 1: the black consulting, I feel really uncomfortable even trying to guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would I guess? No? But with the

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Speaker 1: Hispanic vote, I think it's Hispanics tend to be conservative,

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Speaker 1: and all of this crap about pronouns and transition, this

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Speaker 1: and that and all.

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Speaker 5: Those different things.

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Speaker 1: It's spending. Crowd isn't into that, right right, yep.

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Speaker 4: They hate the complete lefty neo Marxist woke stuff, even

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Speaker 4: if they don't recognize that as neo Marxism, they just

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Speaker 4: don't like it.

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Speaker 1: But on the polling in general, I was thinking yesterday,

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to say on election morning.

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Speaker 1: I think, unless something changes, this is probably what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say in election morning, which is three weeks

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Speaker 1: from tomorrow. Nobody has any idea who's going to win.

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Speaker 1: Because there's the biggest question hanging out there is are

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Speaker 1: the models they're using for polling correct in that is

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Speaker 1: everything the same as it was the last two cycles,

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Speaker 1: because they're using that same model from sixteen to twenty,

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Speaker 1: Who will actually turn out? Who's actually going to turn

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Speaker 1: out the way that they try to get voters and

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Speaker 1: everything like that. If those are if nothing's changed, Trump

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Speaker 1: is absolutely going to win absolut freaking lutely. He outperforms

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Speaker 1: the polls by quite a bit, and he's he's winning

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Speaker 1: just straight up right now, most likely in the way

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Speaker 1: he outperforms the polls, He's easily going to win. The

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Speaker 1: only question is, and again, nobody knows this, and anybody

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Speaker 1: who claims they don't is really full of I mean,

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Speaker 1: do is full of crape. Nobody knows if it's if

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Speaker 1: everything is changed, Trump could be he could be polling

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Speaker 1: better than his actual performance. Now, I mean, you don't know.

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Speaker 1: Things can change a lot in eight years, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's all about whether or not the polling models are

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Speaker 1: right or not. But if they're right, he's absolutely going

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Speaker 1: to win. There's some people arguing out there that things

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Speaker 1: have flipped the way it used to be for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: that when you see a big number nationally, it's because

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Speaker 1: there's so many California voters. Yes, well, that doesn't do

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Speaker 1: you any good, because only you get the same number

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Speaker 1: of electoral votes, whether you win all of them, are

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent of them.

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Speaker 4: Then add in New York and Massachusetts and your other

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Speaker 4: populous Eastern states.

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Speaker 1: But there are a number of people arguing, including Nate

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Speaker 1: ConA The New York Times and Old Nate Silver, the

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Speaker 1: two Nates that Trump is now kind of in that category.

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Speaker 1: He's dominating so much in places like Florida, for instance,

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Speaker 1: that that is exaggerating that number. And the same thing

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Speaker 1: applies that even if you get one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the Republicans in Florida doesn't change the number of electoral

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Speaker 1: votes you.

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Speaker 4: Get, right, which is why please swing state poles.

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Speaker 1: As states are getting insive, redder and bluer. It's working

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Speaker 1: both ways. You know, you get all of the red

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Speaker 1: votes in the red states. But right so, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's all about whether the polling models are right or not.

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Speaker 1: But if they're if they are correct the way they

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Speaker 1: have been, Trump's as a freaking colutely gonna win and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be so fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: On a slightly different topic, headline a story that has

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Speaker 4: gratified my soul. Again, we're not winning or just at

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Speaker 4: the end of the beginning where we realize we're in

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Speaker 4: a fight more and more people against the neo Marxists.

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Speaker 4: Transgender sports is a sleeper issue. You in a number

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Speaker 4: of very very close Senate races. Speaking of Hispanic vote,

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Speaker 4: and black voting.

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Speaker 1: Exactly how many male black voters like the idea of

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Speaker 1: dudes participating in girls' sports? Right? Right? Is what a

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Speaker 1: crazy notion?

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Speaker 4: Or Dad's there, They're little boy being talked into becoming

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Speaker 4: a little girl. Anyway, you know, I think the editorial

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Speaker 4: board of the Journal made a good point that every

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Speaker 4: election issue you have, or every election rather, you have

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Speaker 4: issues that are predictable. Abortion, in the economy, it's just immigration.

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Speaker 4: But then there are also some that surprised the political class.

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Speaker 4: And this year one sleeper issue is progressive transgender coercion,

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Speaker 4: as they put it, which is playing against Democrats and

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Speaker 4: races across the country. And you know what's kind of

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Speaker 4: a tangent to this is, for instance, Shared Brown is

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Speaker 4: running in Ohio and there's an ad running against him

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Speaker 4: in which a narrator says, mister Brown is too liberal

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Speaker 4: for Ohio. He voted to let trendsgender by a logical

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Speaker 4: men participate in women's sports, and one of the big

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Speaker 4: news stations fact checked it and declared it false, even though,

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Speaker 4: as the editorial board points out, it's completely true.

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Speaker 1: And they really torture the argument.

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Speaker 4: It has to do with funding for schools and you

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Speaker 4: can't have funding if you do this, And they said, well,

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Speaker 4: he voted against a funding bill.

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Speaker 1: Not transgender anyway. Tortured logic.

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Speaker 4: But they go into several different races in several different

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Speaker 4: states Wisconsin, Montana, and the poll numbers are terrible for transgender,

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Speaker 4: for men competing in women's sports. And it's funny they

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Speaker 4: use the term declared male at birth. No, you're either

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Speaker 4: male or female. You can declare me a wombat. I'm

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Speaker 4: still a male human being. Declaring got nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with it. I declare Mars a sack of groceries. No,

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Speaker 4: it's still the planet Mars, or was I. Last year,

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Speaker 4: sixty nine percent of Americans told Gallup that quote, transgender

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Speaker 4: athletes should only be allowed to compete on sports teams

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Speaker 4: that confirm with their birth gender. Again, don't even use

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Speaker 4: the term birth gender, because that they're pulling you into it.

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Speaker 4: It's not bigotry for most Americans. It's a matter of fairness,

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Speaker 4: Title nine, et cetera. Not long ago, most Democrats believed

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Speaker 4: in that principle, But these days, the hard edge of

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Speaker 4: the transgender movement has dictated that its view of gender

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Speaker 4: must be imposed nationwide. Senate Democrats have towed that line.

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Speaker 1: So it's so easy to explain this, As the New

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Speaker 1: York Times said, the Republicans are going to take back

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Speaker 1: the Senate. They just splait out stated that last week.

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Speaker 1: Republicans already have the House and are probably going to

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Speaker 1: keep it, and then Trump's going to Trump's likely to win,

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Speaker 1: So they're going to have all three branches and you know,

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Speaker 1: the spring everything, and they've got a governor.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Right, But it'd be so easy to explain it. All

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Speaker 1: this crazy crap most people don't like. It's not hard

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Speaker 1: to explain. Yes, people don't like open porters, they don't

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Speaker 1: like all this pronoun stuff. Then it's not difficult. It's nice.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be a political science major, like

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Speaker 1: to really dig into the numbers to figure this out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff you're pushing in the mainstream media,

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Speaker 1: most people think that's nuts.

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Speaker 4: And if Trump wasn't so disliked, if it was a

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Speaker 4: fairly likable average Republican, they would win forty three states.

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Speaker 1: Right, and if Kamala Harris wins, it's the guy he

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Speaker 1: encouraged people to storm the Capitol. He watched and was

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Speaker 1: happy about it. Yeah the end. Yeah, so either way.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to explain. The strange time. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win. Willing to bet on it? No, God,

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Speaker 1: anybody who would bet based on this polling is be crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: that's uh we we this is not for now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh that's it. I got confused, right right.

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Speaker 4: Hanson filling in for Michaelangelo is sending us mixed signals

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Speaker 4: through our it's it's mixed signals Michael through our ears.

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Speaker 4: Do we know where he went? Did he say where

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Speaker 4: he went?

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Speaker 1: No? No, No, he's a famous celebrity. You can't say that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Michael Angel anniversary trip? He and his

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Speaker 1: wife are four year anniversary and they're doing something. My god,

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Speaker 1: it's four furry convention. No he isn't, Hanson. I think

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Speaker 1: he's in Fresno. Doesn't he go to Fresno? There a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Paris, of the planes, exactly of the planes.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to break all right, more of

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Speaker 1: the ways stay here. I like that music, Hansen, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, that's kirvy. I don't know much about this.

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Speaker 1: One hundred troops were sending to Israel and new equipment

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Speaker 1: for shooting down missiles. I have to up on that I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's probably closely related those two things. I'll bet

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Speaker 4: they help run and trust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I assume that, But why now?

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Speaker 4: And I always assume we have troops and spooks and

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Speaker 4: trainers and oh yeah, military folks in Israel.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mentioned this like practically every day. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still reading the David Sanger book New Cold Wars

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Speaker 1: and talking about early in the war in Ukraine, where

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Speaker 1: we're trying to make it so clear that the United

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Speaker 1: States isn't involved. You're not a war with US, You're

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Speaker 1: a war with NATO or Ukraine or whatever. You're not

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Speaker 1: a war with NATO, You're not worth with the United States. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: We got some of our top people meeting on the border,

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Speaker 1: like standing on the other side of the border in Poland,

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Speaker 1: so we can talk to Ukrainian leaders and tell them

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Speaker 1: what they need to do, but won't step foot across

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Speaker 1: the border. What Ukraine thought was hilarious, but they made

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Speaker 1: it clear that Joe Biden says, absolutely no, we can't

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Speaker 1: be seen being involved in any way. Wow. They actually

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Speaker 1: meet on the border so they can tell them, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is all the information we've got. You didn't hear

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Speaker 1: from us. Wow.

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Speaker 4: Nuts so the media wouldn't wed its pants about boots

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Speaker 4: on the ground. Although I suppose, you know, it's a

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Speaker 4: legitimate concern, I shouldn't have said with our pants. I

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Speaker 4: just like I say, we have special forces all over

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Speaker 4: the world in incredibly dangerous places right now. In fact,

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Speaker 4: Next Hour got a feature ed on what's going on

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Speaker 4: in Africa?

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Speaker 1: What's up with Africa?

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Speaker 4: If you don't get Next Hour, grab it via podcasts,

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Speaker 4: subscribe Armstrong and Getty on demand. But anyway, so I

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Speaker 4: don't I just if they're infantrymen sent to fight, that's

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Speaker 4: boots on the ground. Some general meeting on strategy in

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Speaker 4: some town I've never heard of, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 4: miles outside of Kiev.

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Speaker 1: Not that worried about it. No, and no normal person

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Speaker 1: being we shouldn't equivocate the two.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things was so we have so

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Speaker 1: much more capability than I hope anybody else in the world,

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Speaker 1: certainly than Ukraine did to just bring in all kinds

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Speaker 1: of information from satellites and hacking into things and all

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Anyway, we're helping out Ukraine there

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, and trying to hint like they would

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Speaker 1: hint at things. We can't say where, but it might

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Speaker 1: be a good idea if a place by a river

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Speaker 1: got a little more scrutiny. I mean, it's just dump heap.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's just dumb that we play this game.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, at one point one of the Ukraine people said,

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Speaker 1: why don't you just join our side? Why don't you

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Speaker 1: just fight on our side? Russia is an evil country,

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Speaker 1: just like you know, what's with all this kind of

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Speaker 1: happen us A little bit hinting whatever. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: have the ability to stop this. Why don't you just

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Speaker 1: stop it? It would be very frustrated. Sure, but the

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Speaker 1: whole chapter about modern warfare was so fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: So I like the Twitter feed. We mentioned a lot

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Speaker 1: the open source intelligence. There is so much stuff floating

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Speaker 1: around in the world that anybody can grab, but you

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Speaker 1: have to be smart enough to know which stuff to

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Speaker 1: grab and how to put it together. And we're better

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Speaker 1: at that than anybody else in the world. Interesting. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: in addition to.

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Speaker 4: The African thing, next Hour one final kicking of CBS

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Speaker 4: News for the recent politically correct bias, woke garbage and

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Speaker 4: the incredible, incredible hypocrisy of Gavin Newsom outlawing legacy admissions

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Speaker 4: to colleges.

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Speaker 1: They were armstrong and getty