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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny, and welcome to stuff I've never

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Speaker 1: told you producture of iHeart Radio, and yes I am

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Speaker 1: still by myself. We've got a lot of traveling going on,

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Speaker 1: so I'm flying solo right now and we are moving

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Speaker 1: into October, which is one of my favorite times of year.

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Speaker 1: I love Halloween. I love spooky stuff, creepy stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: for some of that content coming up. And if you

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Speaker 1: have any suggestions for anything you'd like us to do,

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Speaker 1: please let us know. But that being said, I thought

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Speaker 1: I would continue our run of Last of Us Classics

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Speaker 1: that we did a little mini series when the show

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Speaker 1: was coming out. After every episode we would kind of

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Speaker 1: do a discussion, and this episode is one that stands

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Speaker 1: out to me. This was a really memorable one for

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. There were coourse a lot of tears,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of excitement about some of the infected

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Speaker 1: season just came out and I'm looking forward to doing

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Speaker 1: something like this again.

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Speaker 2: Because no there are more.

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Speaker 1: Infected to come listeners, which for me is fun. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, please enjoy this classic episode. Hey, this

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Speaker 1: is Annie and Samantha and welcome to step I never

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Speaker 2: And we've made it halfway? Can you believe it? Halfway?

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Speaker 3: Halfway?

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Speaker 1: Our mini series covering The Last of Us, which again

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Speaker 1: is not sponsored by HBO Max currently, which is a

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Speaker 1: is a nine episode thing that we're doing. It's coming

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Speaker 1: out on Saturdays. It's a special mini series and the

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Speaker 1: last one probably will be March nineteenth. The season finale

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Speaker 1: of the show is March twelfth. Anyone who has listened

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Speaker 1: to this knows it's one of my very favorite things.

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Speaker 1: So very excited to talk about it as always, and

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Speaker 1: this was an episode I was very very very excited about. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: apologies to my friend Marissa who sits next to me

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Speaker 1: during our viewing parties Samantha, because I might have given

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Speaker 4: Yes, she's a poker, not quite sure, but she starts

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Speaker 4: to poke when they're excited.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, sorry Marissa, So as always, uh, this will

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Speaker 1: contain spoilersher episode five, the most recent episode called Endure

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Speaker 1: and Survive, and all.

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Speaker 2: The episodes that came out previously.

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Speaker 1: I will do my best not to spoil anything else,

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Speaker 1: and Samantha will be my guide in this as always

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Speaker 1: as well. Yes, and yeah, we will return to regularly

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Speaker 1: scheduled programming, probably in March. So yes, content morning before

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Speaker 1: we get into this discussion of violence, death and suicide.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get into anything too in depth,

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Speaker 3: Correct, very good. Thank Shall we start with the recap?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Samantha, give us our recap.

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Speaker 4: Right, I got the recap and I'm hoping that we

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Speaker 3: So let's begin and now.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of episode four, we saw rut Row,

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Speaker 4: So they make their way down Snicolie. They're sneaking, sneaking, sneaking,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough one.

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Speaker 2: that they included it. That was definitely something.

440
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I just got random texts that night that were just ish, yes, yes,

441
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: And I love how many people are playing the game

442
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: now and they will get to their first bloater and

443
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: they'll just I'll get like live messaging about fighting it

444
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, I love this.

445
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: This is so good, as you said.

446
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: And Duran Survive is a comic book series that Ellie

447
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: really loves, and it is one of those few, well,

448
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: they become fewer and fewer things of kind of her

449
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: like youth and innocence and curiosity that show like, oh,

450
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: she's still really young in this world and she so

451
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: in the game. It's sort of a thing where you

452
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: can try to find them for her as playing Joel,

453
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: and so she'll be happy and read them, which is

454
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: is really cool. I think one of the big things

455
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: that we're seeing in this episode that they didn't show

456
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: as early in the game as they're showing now is

457
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: Ellie's survivor's guilt of being someone who survived the bite

458
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: and really wanting to help other people. Yeah, because that

459
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: was really heartbreaking, her trying to cure Sam after he'd

460
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: been bitten and then feeling that gelt and like writing,

461
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry leaving it there right, but that that is

462
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: like a very big part of her story. And I

463
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: think they are showing it a lot earlier, more viscerally

464
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: and earlier than they did in the game, And that

465
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: that conversation, it was very well done with the asl

466
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: and the kind of etch and sketch thing. That conversation

467
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: in the game is like burned in my brain. When

468
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: they have the you don't know Sam's infected yet, and

469
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: he's asking like, what's your biggest fear and she says, yeah,

470
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm scared of ending up alone. And then they could

471
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: talk about like whether or not they believe in God,

472
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: and they talk about souls and whether or not zombies.

473
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, souls are still in there. So that's a whole

474
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: thing that I would keep in the old brain.

475
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: That gives us one way to say it. Yeah, keep

476
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 3: it in that brain.

477
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: Keep it in the old brain. Yeah.

478
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: And then obviously the story of Henry and Sam was

479
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: like the key piece of this, and it was one

480
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: like people.

481
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: Who knew we were like, oh no, what are they

482
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: gonna do?

483
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: Are they gonna handle it in the game? Uh, Sam

484
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: is not deaf? So I thought that was cool. And

485
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: I liked the behind the scenes of how they kind

486
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: of learned ASL and with the ASL trainer on sets

487
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: that was really cool. There was like Kathleen's kind of

488
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: ableism around Sam basically I guess deserving to die after

489
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: he got his leukemia diagnosis or not more saving I

490
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: guess that's a better way of saying it.

491
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: But they are supposed to be sort of the.

492
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Mirror of Ellie and Joel, these other two people where

493
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: you've got kind of the protector and the kid trying to.

494
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: Make their way in this world.

495
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: In the game, they're trying to get to the Firefly place,

496
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: just like you are, and Joel's always like, uh fireflies.

497
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Henry's like, well, how are you going?

498
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: Man?

499
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: But it was a moment where you get to see

500
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: this bonding of Sam and Ellie, of seeing this kind

501
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: of childlike innocence. This is also something you can actually

502
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: miss in the game. There's a lot of really small

503
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: moments you can have of like them playing darts together,

504
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: sharing like blueberries together, that you can miss, but they

505
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: definitely put that in the in the game. And also,

506
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: as we discussed in the last one, you do see

507
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: this cycle of violence of Kathleen's brother dying and then

508
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: her killing all these people to find Henry, who turned

509
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: in Kathleen's brother to save Sam, and just that the

510
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: cycle of that and the conversation that Henry and Joel

511
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: have together where Henry's like, I'm the bad guy, right,

512
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: I did a bad guy thing. I turned this guy

513
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: and who he respected and really like admired in Joel

514
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: kind of being like notably silent until later.

515
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: He's also a little bit judgmental, Like it's weirdly like

516
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: hypocritical of him being judgmental, but he does because he's like, well,

517
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: he also doesn't like Federa in himself, but.

518
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: Right, right, I think Joel's just so closed off about

519
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: like people in general, that.

520
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: He's got all these walls.

521
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: And is not going to listen, doesn't want to be

522
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: around anybody. I think one of the reasons he changed

523
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: that why he finally invited Henry and Sam to go

524
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: with him. At the end, it is because he saw

525
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Henry protect Ellie, because Ellie was in trouble and Henry

526
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: kind of came in to save her when Joel was

527
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: of sniping from above, and I think at that moment

528
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, okay, he could be useful and

529
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: he helped protect her, and I think the part of

530
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: him was like, it is nice that she has somebody

531
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: she can talk to that's her own ish age. But

532
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: then like this is the O when you get to

533
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: Sam being infected and Henry taking his own life after

534
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: killing him, that's kind of the like we're seeing Henry

535
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: being willing to do anything to protect Sam, and then

536
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: what happens when that's gone, Like his whole purpose was

537
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: that what happens when that's gone?

538
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: And he was the one that had to kill him, right.

539
00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: And that's it was just such a heartbreaking, heartbreaking scene

540
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and it is so at the end when the creators

541
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: were talking about it, and they were talking they said, like,

542
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: you know how many people you sacrifice for the one

543
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: you love?

544
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: What are these choices that you make?

545
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: And Reigniz said, these are decisions that love makes that

546
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: rationality and and look what happens when you choose vengeance.

547
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: Which is a theme over and over again in these games.

548
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and kind of her Kathleen having this

549
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: whole speech like, you know, you think your whole world

550
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: revolves around this one kid, that's what happens when you

551
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: with fate. And then and then what happens exactly the.

552
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: Consequences children kill you because.

553
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: She knew, she ignored that there was this like sinkhole

554
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: where they knew there were infected, and she ignored it

555
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: because she wanted vengeance. More right, these were the consequences

556
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: of choosing that. And then yes, the child clicker gets

557
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: her in the end, but that is a recurring theme

558
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: in this and it was interesting, like her whole speech

559
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: about forgiveness, like where's the justice in that? Where what

560
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: was the point in that? Because she says her brother

561
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: would have wanted her to.

562
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: Forgive He told her to forgive them Henry, Yes, that

563
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 4: was his last dying wish.

564
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 2: And she didn't do it.

565
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: And that kind of goes back to the point I

566
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: made that I'm definitely going to talk about in the

567
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: last episode, but in the previous one, where you know,

568
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: when you're kind of the things you do in the

569
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: name of love that are really pretty selfish. And that's

570
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: like we've talked about this a million times. Forgiveness is

571
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: hard and it's personal. I get it, but this is

572
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: like she was going to kill those kids. It's going

573
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: to kill those kids. No, And one thing I wanted

574
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: to touch on that makes these games so painful. So

575
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: you see the scene of Ellie trying to save Henry

576
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: and Sam from the clickers and then trying to save

577
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Sam from the bite to be she wanted to be

578
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: like a savior or a hero and then you lose anyway.

579
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: That happens a lot of the game, so where you'll

580
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: like literally spend hours trying to save somebody and then

581
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: they die anyway, and it is it's like incredibly painful.

582
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: But though this is like one of the key moments

583
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I think in her character.

584
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: And also on the flip side, Joel.

585
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: Is beginning to understand that he does somehow Ellie has

586
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: worn him down with her questions and her persistence and

587
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: her puns, and he's realizing, like when he's looking at

588
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: the grave of Henry and Sam, like what would have

589
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: he thinks that that would be them and it will

590
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: ruin him if he loses her. So that's a pretty

591
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: big turning point in their relationship.

592
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: My own mind, I.

593
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: Did want to go over some things really quickly that

594
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: have just been happening, because again, we don't really research

595
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: these so much as just we watched them together and

596
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: I see headlines and I get text about them, emails

597
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: about them sometimes. I did see the actress who plays

598
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Kathleen talk about body shaming she has received for not

599
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: being super sin.

600
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: I suppose what she has had to.

601
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: Deal with for a while now her Emmy Award winning acting.

602
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: I believe she want an Emmy for.

603
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: A Yellowjacket, which, by the way, is really good if

604
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 4: you haven't watched it. And they started in on her

605
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: at the very beginning, and her continually having to to

606
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: justify why she's fine with her body, which is hilariously.

607
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: Sad.

608
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: I know that's the oxymoron, but it's just so tiresome.

609
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, once again she's getting body shaming.

610
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: And I believe it was by an influencer or someone famous,

611
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: someone famous criticized heart. I can't remember who it was,

612
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: and it was unnecessary. There's no there's no reason to

613
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: point out any other thing outside of their acting. She

614
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: was in a damn jacket in a freezing cold weather.

615
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: What the hell right?

616
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no need, no need at all. I did like that.

617
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: The actor who plays Perry Slash, Tommy's voice actor came

618
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: out and spoke like in camaraderie with her, likely you

619
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: stop it?

620
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: What's the reason?

621
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: Right? Right?

622
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: And then I saw Bella Ramsey just sort of released

623
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: a statement about the backlash some of the queer storylines

624
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: have gotten, and basically she was like, get over it.

625
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Good on her.

626
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and this happens when the game came out

627
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: as well. People are really a certain sect of gamers.

628
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: We're really really mad about it. And I know we

629
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: talked about it in our I think our Ellie episode.

630
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: We did because Ashley Johnson, who plays Ellie, said, you know,

631
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: people have come up to her and been like, I'm

632
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: so glad these games exist because I don't see that

633
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: very often, these kind of queer storylines very often.

634
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: So I'm sure we'll have more to say about that soon.

635
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: We're speaking of and my my vague up next, which.

636
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: You can go stop now if you don't want any spoilers,

637
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: if you're that person who doesn't like the previews coming

638
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: up stat Yes.

639
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: Yes, because this it's nothing more you'll than you'll get

640
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: in the trailer.

641
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: But if you are like somebody who just like not

642
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: even the.

643
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Trailer understand friends like that, I do too.

644
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: I do too.

645
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Number one, we're gonna get the dramatic reunion with Tommy finally, finally,

646
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: mm hmm. There's gonna be a big come to Jesus moment,

647
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: and I won't say any more about it, but there

648
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: will be a big one.

649
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: And there will also be a pretty big cliffinger.

650
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: I think I care, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna

651
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: be a cliffinger.

652
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

653
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: So, and I need to know from the listeners who

654
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: actually watched on Friday and who waited till Sunday.

655
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, who was like, screw that football game?

656
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: It was me.

657
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: I watched it again.

658
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 3: I know you did. You had an old plan.

659
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: I did, and it was wonderful and glorious.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Also, we went to a work function and I took

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Speaker 1: the pun book and.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of dressed like Ellie and you just.

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Speaker 3: Were dressed like Ellie. What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: I didn't have that, you didn't have a backpackka.

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Speaker 1: There was more I could have done, but I was

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Speaker 1: definitely reading people puns. And my favorite was our friend

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Speaker 1: and coworker Alex kept coming up to me randomly and

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Speaker 1: was like, give me another one, and then he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: laugh at all.

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Speaker 2: He would just walk.

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Speaker 4: Away after Well, at one point he did come back

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Speaker 4: and say, Okay, that was a bad one.

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Speaker 2: We do, Yes, he did, which is how the game is.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly how it works in the game. Yes, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm very very excited. It's gonna be good. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Well, listeners, I hope you're enjoying this series, whether you've

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Speaker 1: played the game, watched the show or not. We would

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Speaker 1: love to hear from you. You can email that Stuff

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Speaker 1: at your mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast, or on

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Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok with my perhaps sad before and after

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Speaker 1: video who knows. I hope so that stuff mom never

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Speaker 1: told you things. As always to our super producer Christina,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Yes, and thanks to Joey who helps us

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Speaker 1: with TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and a shout out to Cosmic Salmon or at

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Speaker 4: Cosmic Salmon one on Twitter, who said, Hi, I just

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Speaker 4: l Ou review episodes, So shout out to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for listening, Yes, thank you and for letting

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Speaker 3: us know.

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Speaker 2: And thanks to you for listening. Stefan never told you

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Speaker 2: his prediction of iHeart Radio.

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