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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross. Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: look at the new digs coming to you live SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage studio, not the living room. Let's go. I don't

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Speaker 1: but we're back. We're here. Me and Nate Newton are

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Speaker 1: live in studio looking at Kurt Daniels and Jesse Holly

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Speaker 1: on the screen, live from their house, and respectively, how

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Speaker 1: are you fellas doing today? Doing good? You're looking sharp

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Speaker 1: there than the button up shirt going on, hair groom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got up. I'm doing I'm having a you know

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Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm having a crap day. I feel like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm playing I don't, but I would. People always say

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Speaker 1: figure I throw it the opposite way today, and you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm really fine. You know. It's one of

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Speaker 1: those questions where it's like you ask, but you really

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Speaker 1: don't care. You're just trying to be nice, like you

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Speaker 1: really want to know, Like, yeah, somebody say, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing? There? You go, you know what, I'm really depressed.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a bad day. You're like it. Really didn't

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Speaker 1: want that answer. I really don't want to know. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good to know that you faked your crap day.

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Speaker 1: Good seeing you, Kurt, Nate, it's good seeing you across

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Speaker 1: from you. Look you look, something's wrong. What's wrong with

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Speaker 1: you right now? Man? Davin Cook got Yeah, he just

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Speaker 1: wants to get right in it. So throwing that out

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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there. I'm just throwing that

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Speaker 1: out there. Man, how are you today? Man? Jessin Jefferson

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Speaker 1: got seven hundred and seventy sixty two kids. Glad y'all

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Speaker 1: aren't in the studio. On the one hand, Nate wants

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Speaker 1: to have fun and he wants to talk about other stuff,

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Speaker 1: then he starts throwing out stats. Wow, it's a hard,

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Speaker 1: hard road to Tracy. You know what, I think you're

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Speaker 1: more excited about seeing coach Zimmer. You know it, and

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Speaker 1: and and I think the Vikings are your pet cat

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. I think you enjoy watching them and

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Speaker 1: talking about them more than you do the cow Boys.

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Speaker 1: Not more than the Cowboys. I enjoy talking about the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys with Zim. Zim is a real he real to

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Speaker 1: why why do you? Why do you like Zim so much?

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Speaker 1: He's direct anybody that's direct, and he expects for you

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Speaker 1: coaches like that they help you be a winner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you got any kind of competitiveness in you and

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Speaker 1: they kind of desire to be something special. He's always

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Speaker 1: because you always better quarterback. You always gonna go with

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Speaker 1: telling you that, you know, quarterbacks that are good like

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Speaker 1: Dak can lift up the players around him and make

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Speaker 1: needed for the for the for the cover to be full,

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Speaker 1: for him to be successful. That's true. That's true, Shannon.

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Speaker 1: We're waiting on you. What's our next name? I was

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Speaker 1: So well, we we talked. You know, in the past,

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Speaker 1: good because Ezekiel Elliott. Are we seeing now that truly

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Speaker 1: Zeke is only good because he had Dak Prescott? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: is or is it just as simple as I line up,

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Speaker 1: I know he's over there. I'm good. No, like six

426
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Speaker 1: percent of the plays you you got, you're gonna know

427
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: why he's at Okay, But it's it's that elite time.

428
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: It's the critical times and games you know, you know

429
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: where the game is tight and they're looking for their

430
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: playmakers and you're looking for your playmakers. Well, let's say

431
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: they motioned them out of the backfield and put him

432
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: in the slot. You better know who've got this dude

433
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: when he get to that slot. If they take him

434
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: and run him across the back, across the motion, you

435
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: better know who got him in these critical situations. But

436
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: all that's all that's pre snap, right after the ball

437
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: snap you're still watching. No, no, it ain't no pre snap.

438
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: When it's in critical times in games, you you, you

439
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: as a team has to know, like we like when

440
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: it may be different for jesting them and a defensive

441
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: back because they're one on one, but when we call

442
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: certain protections in the game. It used to be playing

443
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: against Lawrence Taylor, we wanted to dictate where he rush from.

444
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: We did not want him to go against what we

445
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: thought in our heads or what the offensive coordinator scheme,

446
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: because if they do and then throw you in disarray,

447
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: that one split second of hesitation to get you to up.

448
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: And that same way when you see a delving cook,

449
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: you see a Hopkins. The worst thing in the world

450
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: is for Hopkins to start in the slot, run across

451
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: the formation, then go out wide on the other side.

452
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 1: Now you now you're gonna make that adjustment with your dvs.

453
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: Are you gonna make the adjustment with your inside that

454
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: linebacker to that side. It's it's a multiple things you

455
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: can do, but it's the guys that are communicating is

456
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: getting it Hopkins Hopkins going across, going across, You're gonna

457
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: either tell the safety jump over there. You're gonna tell

458
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: the outside linebacker, outside linebacker jumped up. If you got

459
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: a guy shattering him, how does it affect the rest

460
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: of the defense. But once you shift responsibility and he

461
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: moves out of your area, out of your coverage responsibility.

462
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: But then you gotta be smart enough if you're playing

463
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: one on way, so many complex that way you can do.

464
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: If you're playing one on one and I'm shattering him,

465
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: where the rest of the defense got a jest? If

466
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: he go across the across the formation, the two receivers

467
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: that's left over here, what are you gonna do with him?

468
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: How are you gonna play that coverage? So when they

469
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: get critical times, that is where the cop was of

470
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: getting licked, been getting lit up due to the fact

471
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: that they don't know who they got and win. So

472
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: when we say, hey, nowhere Davin cookhead and at all

473
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: times for fifcent of the time, okay, we know where yet,

474
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: but it's that critical time. It's like last year. Remember

475
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: it was it's third and fifteen and they threw him

476
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: a screen and this dude got twenty one yards. I remember. No, yeah,

477
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: very familiar with a couple. Come on, man, not this

478
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: don't happen, Jess. You could probably explain not knowing this

479
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: is that them not knowing the scheme or they just

480
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: not talking to each other. Well, last year they knew

481
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: the scheme and they should have knew when when they went.

482
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: When you have a back, you're either gonna blitz if

483
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: this back go out. You either gonna blitz and make

484
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: this quarterback react sooner than he wants to, or you

485
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: got that back but you cannot hesitate. Either way, You're

486
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: either gonna cover the back. He We don't have a

487
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: guy on our team as of yet that can play games.

488
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that it's Lawrence Taylor's sometime.

489
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: He's been to my left outside linebacker standing up outside

490
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: to a name. He would get up and walk and

491
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: come right into my a gap. We turned into protection

492
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: this way. So now my center is all alone with

493
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: this guy because the bubble is over us, and we

494
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: turn at the bubble. So so I gotta be smarten

495
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: to say twys single, single, single, twys stay on his man,

496
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: that on his head, and I turned back and help

497
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: our center. I don't turn away. That's that's like I

498
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: gotta know where Laurence say lad on this protection. It's

499
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: just it's a company. It seems simple to me, and

500
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: it seems simple to Jess, but it sometimes it's hard

501
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: to explain. In critical situations, you have to know where

502
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: the playmakers are. Now, they can hurt you at any

503
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: time during the game, but at those critical points in

504
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: the game where you need to play or they need

505
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: to play, do not discount these guys. And I know

506
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: I sound so clear when I was explaining that Jess

507
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: probably could have did it better more than one playmaker.

508
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: You just play straights like justin Jefferson on the outside,

509
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: you play straight up. See a Woozier has to play,

510
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: they like one on one on their corners. They have

511
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: to play. If I'm a Woozier and Jess, you tell

512
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, if I'm a Woozia, I'm telling coach, coach,

513
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: coach like him. Man, y'all can call what you want.

514
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: If this dude will come over here, I'm working with him,

515
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: you can call it. You know, you can call what

516
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: you want. But you know what, I ain't gonna be

517
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: getting caught with with the safety that I don't know

518
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: what's going on. I ain't gonna be getting caught like that.

519
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'm riding with this duty. If he come outside

520
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: these numbers, I'm riding with him. So he either run

521
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: past me, do do a quick out, quick slant whatever.

522
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm riding with him. And you know, sometimes coaches to

523
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: go with that and then sometimes coach that. Now, man,

524
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: you do what we tell you to do, you know,

525
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: m right, certain guys who can have that conversation, certain

526
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: guys coach, but like not go over there and do

527
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: what I told you to do. You ain't quite earned that.

528
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: You ain't quite earned that through your play where you

529
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: can tell me you're just gonna ride with him, and y'all,

530
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe you that much right now. Let some

531
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 1: coaches like you know what you got it, Jess, Can

532
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you give him a simpler way to his question was

533
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: a great, great question, and I think I blamed it

534
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: to people that have a limit of football knowledge. But

535
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: can you make it even simple of what I said? Yeah,

536
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: and I understand that, like you always know, okay, there

537
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: he is, there he goes, he goes in motion. I

538
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: think my question, Jesse was more of once the play starts,

539
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: are you still in your subconscious mind or your side

540
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: out of your peripheral vision, still having to account for

541
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a playmaker like Dalvin Cook or someone like that, Or

542
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: once the play starts, are you focused on your assignment

543
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: and that guy's out of that guy's out of your mind?

544
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: If if he's not your sign. But yeah, it's it's

545
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: about your assignment. Yeah, now I'll say this, um. This

546
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: goes back to knowing, um, one of your assigned, but

547
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: also studying film and saying, you know what, it's third

548
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: and whatever, it's fourth quarter. You know all those little

549
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: little ideo sickness he's that happened in the game. You know,

550
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: maybe I take a slight step outside because I've watched

551
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: film and in this formation on kind of distance he

552
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: likes to outside release and get leverage. And now if

553
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: I take a step outside, maybe I make him bubble

554
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: out some side some more, and now it takes a

555
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: step off. But once the ball is snapped, it's assignment. Yeah,

556
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: it's assignment, you know. And yeah, you know what he's at.

557
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: But if your assignment is hooked the flat, then them

558
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: it get the hooked the flat, and then you hope

559
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: the next guy who's supposed to be wherever he's supposed

560
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: to be, middle or whatever, over the top of underneath,

561
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, that they'll get there. Um and Kurt,

562
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: you had a great point. Is what happens when you

563
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: have multiple guys who are playmakers. It comes down to

564
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: who was the lesser of the evils, right, who was

565
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: the less of the poisons. It's it's like if it's

566
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: if it's Randy Moss standing outside and it's grunk you know,

567
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: at the tight end, and then there's like, you know,

568
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: a shifty running back in the backfield. Well, I'm gonna

569
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: take my chance with the shifty running back because he's

570
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: the lesser of the three evils, you know what I'm saying.

571
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: So it's all about how can I lessen the blow?

572
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: And and and then sometimes you know, you win some

573
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes you lose some. But that's that unique chess

574
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: battle that you play within the football game because you

575
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: have to be able to guess right, you have to

576
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: be able to plan right, and you you hope, you

577
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: hope that I have the players that can stand up

578
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: and make this one or two or three stands that

579
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: will make us victories at the end of the day.

580
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes it works in your favor for the Cowboys and

581
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: hadn't worked in our favor, and especially a lot this year,

582
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: especially when it comes defensively. But you know, we've seen

583
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: it happen on our side when we've had you know,

584
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Amara Cooper against Philadelphia a past that should have been

585
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: intercepted was tipped and caught and ran four touchdown. We've

586
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: seen it times where Zeke when he was back running

587
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: sixty yard plays, Nathaniel remember those sixty yard runs. Well,

588
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: he was back doing those sixty yard runs where you

589
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: know they had guys committed to the line of scrimmage

590
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and then the one guy doesn't make a play that

591
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: I need to make and out he ain't sixty yard runs.

592
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: He ain't busting sixty yard runs. Nathaniel still do Jesse,

593
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: but those are the type of Those are the type

594
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: of plays where you know it's pick your poison, but

595
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: you try to set yourself up in a situation where

596
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: every area is covered and and you make the quarterback

597
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: then have to beat you with the throw or making

598
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: a spectacular play, and if he does, you tip your

599
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: cap to that man and you either want to lose

600
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: it or you live to see another play before we

601
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: go to our last break. I brought up Hopkins, and

602
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: I meant to ask you this earlier in the week. Jesse.

603
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: Just to the naked eye and the average fan or

604
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: even the avid fan, the catch that he made the

605
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: other night in the end zone over three guys was unbelievable.

606
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Talk about it from talk about how hard that that

607
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: play really was for him to make as a wide receiver,

608
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: Like is that just incredible that he was able to

609
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: come down with that ball. There's only a select few

610
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: people in this entire world that can make plays like

611
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: that one. He has a skill set too. It also

612
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: helped that he wears a size six at gloves. Now,

613
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: I have big hands and I was a three X glove,

614
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: So imagine what a six X glove looks like. Right,

615
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: That's like that's like some pretty big hands right there.

616
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: But I can't even explain that that there's only a

617
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: certain few people in the in the entire universe that

618
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: can make plays like that. And he's one of the

619
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: guys and we've seen it firsthand who can just make plays.

620
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: And he's just like, how did he do that? But

621
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: that's why he's one of the best to ever do it.

622
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: If you haven't watched his postgame interview, like I don't,

623
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't look at him as one of the trash

624
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: talking wide receivers. And he didn't really trash talk. He

625
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: just stated the facts. Go go google his postgame interview

626
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: after the game. It was pretty pretty damn funny and

627
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: he didn't even say very much. So all right, we're

628
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna take our last break. When we come back, we're

629
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna get into a little bit of Cowboys defense and

630
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: we'll see how many more times Jesse can say see it, Jess,

631
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: you say it? Zeke, Yeah, y'alls, he ain't making no

632
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: sixty y'all. Run, Nathan, yell. We come back hanging with

633
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: the boys, just like all of you. We at Szeki

634
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: can't wait until we're back in the stands at full strength,

635
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: cheering on the Cowboys, and singing along to our favorite

636
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: songs again. We're using this time to make discovering, buying,

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Speaker 1: after him and Nate went out always about food, and

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Speaker 1: told him no, and he said, are you sure? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: supposed to be losing weight, right bye bye bye by

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Speaker 1: doing your thing? What that mean? What that means? Enlightening

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Speaker 1: the fans make it simpler, no, sir, and so so

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Speaker 1: we want to hear what you was doing. Nothing. So

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Speaker 1: told it, said, hey, man, what what you want? I said, Man,

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Speaker 1: give me a triple a triple cheese burger with bacon,

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Speaker 1: you know, and ain't gonna make sure it makes sure

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Speaker 1: you're smothered onions. And Tony was shocked because he didn't

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Speaker 1: I wanted him running over. Yeah, that's what threw it.

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Speaker 1: That was threw him off, like he's letting me like, man,

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Speaker 1: ain't you supposed to be losing weight? And did I

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Speaker 1: ask for a diet? That's what that threw him off? Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it messed Tony up so bad. I say, Tony, you

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Speaker 1: want somebody and he's like, Noah, Man, just take me home.

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Speaker 1: You know what. Tony looks like he can still play man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we saw him this morning that Charles Haley food

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Speaker 1: giveaway and he got his arm in a sling, like

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Speaker 1: why did you come my hand? You can't lifting it?

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Speaker 1: This dude come on him? Many to a food drop

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Speaker 1: to a food drop. We're throwing cans. Jesse backback to

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Speaker 1: give about I can't hardly been on if we had

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Speaker 1: six hundred and some cases of turkeys, six turkeys in

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Speaker 1: each case. He didn't have his arm to sleep last night,

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Speaker 1: And then he opened up. He opened up during the

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Speaker 1: interview like yeah, we like to have Charles every chance.

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Speaker 1: We get his teammates and they got the camera right

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Speaker 1: on his arm, like what did you do? All right?

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Speaker 1: Speaking about it helping out teammates. Cheeto is returning to

728
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Speaker 1: the defense this week. It's his first time back in

729
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: seven games. What can we expect from him, Jesse? Realistically?

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna take him a few games to get

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Speaker 1: and and contribute? Is he is he gonna get eight up?

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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? Yeah, anytime you're away for that long,

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736
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Speaker 1: fast pace. And it always seemed like the guys who

738
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Speaker 1: we have injured, when they decide to come back, it's like, oh,

739
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Speaker 1: this guy decided to come back. First game out, Oh

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Speaker 1: he has to face Aaron Donald. Oh this guy first

741
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Speaker 1: game come back. Oh he has to face male Garrett. Oh,

742
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: this guy comes back. Now he has to face two

743
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Speaker 1: so now so now you're looking at saying many why

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746
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747
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Speaker 1: because it takes some time to get that. Just get

748
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Speaker 1: all of those things. So do you hope that he's

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Speaker 1: able to come back and knock some of the dust

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Speaker 1: off early, But you know, it's you've been out for

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Speaker 1: seven weeks. That's a long time to be out of football. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she'll have fresh legs, but mentally and physically. It takes

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Speaker 1: some time to get back in a group of things,

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Speaker 1: especially when gods have been playing for you know, for

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Speaker 1: And this team has come in, they've been rolling. They

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Speaker 1: won the last three games in a row. And Jefferson

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Speaker 1: is one of the best rookies in the league this year.

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Speaker 1: And we know what Adam Fineland is as a receiver.

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Speaker 1: So you know, let's let's let's cross our fingers and

763
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Speaker 1: hope we don't give up too many big plays. Nate

764
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Speaker 1: keep him with the end as this before go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Well, I just I wanted to ask this before

766
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Speaker 1: it's come Maybe old news, but I mean, how much

767
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Speaker 1: is to have on Diggs being out now gonna hurt

768
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: his development? Uh? You know what you know, that's a

769
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Speaker 1: touching go thing. That's that's a touching go thing. You

770
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Speaker 1: want him to get as many reps as he can

771
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Speaker 1: in his rookie year into Uh, but if he if

772
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Speaker 1: he used this time, wise the man go back and

773
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Speaker 1: self scout. Uh, talk to some people that's gotten knowledge

774
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Speaker 1: and understanding another game and say, hey, man, what you

775
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: think about this is what you think about that he

776
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: can come back, man, if he come back this season

777
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: and be a much better player. But if he don't,

778
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: he still got a wealth of knowledge. Man, he got

779
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: he faced some dogs. He faced some dogs, some of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, it didn't look too good. You know, they

781
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Speaker 1: beat him up a lot. But he gonna be all

782
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: right next year, he should be all right. He should

783
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: mentally know what he can and cannot do. Add On, Jess, No,

784
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Speaker 1: you said what I was gonna say, And to me,

785
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Speaker 1: it's fifty to fifty that you know, you want all

786
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Speaker 1: the reports you can possibly get, because the only way

787
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to get better at doing something is to constantly repetition.

788
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: But it gives him a moment and take a step back, self, analyze.

789
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Speaker 1: We'll see where he went wrong, see where he went back.

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Speaker 1: Get this off as a program, you know, kind of

791
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Speaker 1: in front of him and seeing what he has to

792
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: go work on with his brother, with his trainer, whoever

793
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: he may work with. But to Nate's point, he faced

794
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: some dogs this year. Go back and look at the

795
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: receivers that he faced this year. He ain't faced no slouted.

796
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: He faced some of the best of the best. And

797
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: so you can take that and put it in your

798
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: pocket and going to the office, and they're saying, man,

799
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I saw what Julio Jones was like. I saw what

800
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry was like. I saw what

801
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: it was like to face a guy like um uh,

802
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: like the kid from from from LA. Yeah, you know.

803
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: So he's he's gotten a chance to see some of

804
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: the best receivers in the league and uh and and

805
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: that right there holds value in itself. Last question before

806
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: we get out of here. DeMarcus Lawrence said this game

807
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: against Minnesota isn't going to be like Cleveland. He said,

808
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: they're a different team. Now, do you guys, after what

809
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: you saw in one game against Pittsburgh, do you think

810
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: they're a different team? And do they have the talent

811
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: to be able to stop Dalvin Cook or is the

812
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: cook gonna cook? You answer that one, Nathaniel. The thing

813
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: about this right here is we've been saying it all

814
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Speaker 1: a while. Okay, now, can you be consistent? Can you

815
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Speaker 1: can you be consistent in what you do? I mean,

816
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: I hate that anybody said that, but he has that

817
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Speaker 1: right to say that. Now. They gave up three hundred

818
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: yards rushing in Cleveland, So what you're gonna give up

819
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: to fifty, Like, what what is not Cleveland? You gave

820
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: up almost a half. I don't like you can't. I

821
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: don't like when you get up a third of a

822
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: thousand yards when when the gospel is angry is angry.

823
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't like you gave up hundred yards rushing to it.

824
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Speaker 1: You gave up three hundred yards rushing to a guy

825
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: by the name of darn Was the name d Ernest? Yeah,

826
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: we didn't even know, like you. You gave up to three.

827
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna be Cleveland. So what is it

828
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna be? Three? Six? So they answer to that question,

829
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: is it gonna be two ninety? Jesse? Don't say anything, man,

830
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: Just say we're gonna do our very best, Anthor just

831
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: say we're gonna do our very best to to corral

832
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the game. Don't

833
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: say it's not gonna be a Cleveland. You give him

834
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: three yards in Cleveland, So what are you gonna give

835
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: this guy too? If he gets toe yards? What's gonna say? Okay, Well,

836
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't what Cleveland was. It was only difference in

837
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: this team in Cleveland. You can bet that if they

838
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: if they have success running, they will not stop. Yeah, well,

839
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna do our best. We're gonna

840
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: do our best to get a player for you guys tomorrow.

841
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to interview a defensive player today after

842
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: the show and then have it in the show tomorrow

843
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: for these guys on the show to consume. Jesse, please

844
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: please lose your anger when we get this player on later.

845
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: The Gospel, we need you to be uplifting going into

846
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: the five yards to thank Jesse. Why hey, he ain't

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Speaker 1: doing that? Who's Christ? Thank you, Chris, Thank you, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Go run a lap, Sun, settle down. We will see

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Speaker 1: y'all tomorrow, same time, same place on Hey What the Boys.

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