WEBVTT - #374 Packers Unscripted: Victory Monday 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:20.799 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.160 I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my partner West had 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.080 cooits were coming to you here from our studios at 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.760 lambeau Field and West. It is a Monday, and it's 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.159 a victory Monday for the Green Bay Packers. That feels 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.000 pretty good to say, thirty four to twenty over the 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.000 Atlanta Falcons on Sunday at lambeau Field, a victory for 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.480 interim head coach Joe Philbin in his Green Bay Packers 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.640 head coaching debut. I'm not sure where you want to 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.000 start with this one, but a lot of good things 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.120 happening on both sides of the ball here for the 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.400 Packers on Sunday afternoon, and there was one common traite, Mike, 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.360 that went for both the offense, defense, even the special teams. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.400 I thought there was a lot of energy. I thought 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.920 there was a lot of through husiasm, and I wrote 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.960 about it and what ended up being our sidebar or 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.400 locker room report talking to some of these guys in 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.360 the locker room afterwards, just how people had bought into 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.080 what Joe Philbin was saying this week. It was as 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.640 tumultuous as a time as the Green Bay Packers have 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.080 had to go through here in fifteen years. And Joe 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.880 Philbin hit all the right notes with those players. Offensively, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.240 they knew him, they were they were familiar with them, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.840 they were comfortable with them. The veterans that have been 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.200 around during his first stint in the young guys that 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.200 had bought into him since he came back. But defensively, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.040 he needed to sort of, I don't want to say, 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.120 prove himself, but introduce himself to a lot of guys 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.360 who didn't really deal with him on a daily basis 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.640 from where his position was as the offensive coordinators. So 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.840 in that regard, I thought the Packers I said all 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.360 week long, I thought this was gonna go one of 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.560 two ways for the Packers. I didn't see a middle ground. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.200 I thought they were either gonna come out and play 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.560 like champions, or I thought they were gonna look deflated. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.800 And they came out looking like champions. Yeah, they came 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 out right from the get go. And don't get me 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.200 started on the challenges and the replay reviews, or I'm 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.720 gonna say something about the command center in New York 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.200 City that will get me fired. Um. But moving past that, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.040 the Falcons jump on top seven and nothing, and the 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.960 Packers then respond not only with a touchdown, but with 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:22.000 thirty four consecutive points before the Packers defense allowed Atlanta 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 to score again. The game was well in hand then 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.960 in the second half at thirty four to seven. There 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.760 were a lot of things that I liked about this 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.840 game West, and I think I think for me, it 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.080 just started with the very beginning, the first offensive possession, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.360 and I know people were wondering, why aren't the Packers 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.840 trying to run the ball and all this, I think 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.160 the game plan was clear in terms of getting Aaron 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.600 Rodgers into a rhythm and into some kind of a 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.560 comfort zone. Because I was keeping track during that first possession. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.000 Aaron Rodgers dropped back to past eight times on that drive, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.920 if you include the defensive past interference that was part 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.919 of that drive, eight times he drove back to pass, 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.480 and seven of those eight times the ball was out 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.040 on time and in rhythm. Only once was there to 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.840 hold the ball, scramble around and look for another guy 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.480 kind of thing. And I just thought that set the 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.280 tone for the way this offense needs to play. I 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.880 thought it put the Falcons defense on its heels right 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.600 away from the get go to have Aaron Rodgers in 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.280 that kind of a rhythm, and that really paid off 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.840 through the first three quarters as the Packers built a 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.680 big lead. So, you know, all week long they made 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.520 such a big deal. Not a big deal, but people 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.320 pointed out that Joe Philbin hadn't been an offensive coordinea 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.600 calling get you know plays since his time back in Northeastern. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.800 But what was interesting to me on that first series 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.160 in particular, you know what that reminded me a lot 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.080 of two thousand eleven in that they were using a 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.800 short passing game, quick passing game to get the offense moving. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.520 There was no regard whatsoever for the run. Early on, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.720 Jamal Williams started the game. Second play, he was out there. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.960 He ends up picking up uh, you know, Russia come 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.600 and off the edge by himself. So they made it 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.040 a point to get Aaron Rodgers into a rhythm, and 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.560 they use multiple personnel personnel packages to do that, a 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.080 lot of players shuffling in and out from the sideline 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.680 play after playoff play, and then what happened then in 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.880 the second half, then you start to get the run 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.760 going with Aaron Jones I have one of the funnier things. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.320 I was talking to Aaron Jones in the locker room. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.240 They ran that screen right that went from minus one 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.240 yard and I kind of said, I was like, so, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.000 what was going through your mind? Then when they dial 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.200 up the same exact play to the right side, He's like, Oh, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.160 they're never going to see this coming. You know, when 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.640 you have a play that quote unquote fails like that, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.440 why would you run the same exact thing to the 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.039 other side. The Packers do that, they get the first down, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.159 the fifteen yards, Aaron Jones starts rolling after that, fifty 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.880 total yards of offense on that drive ending with the 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.680 twenty nine yard touchdown. It was really I thought interesting 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.120 and maybe even poetic that this game ended without I mean, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.120 Davante Adams had a fine game, Aaron Jones had a 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.239 fine game. Aaron Rodgers stats were fine, but it wasn't 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.320 a dominating performance by one individual player. You heard the 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.880 term complimentary football a lot, and whether it was offense 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.200 or defense. With the shot Brilon stepping up with a 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.640 pick six, Clay Matthews I thought had a really good game. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.840 They complimented both sides of the football there and realistically, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.600 I mean, that was the best game that they've played 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.159 going back to that Week four matchup against the Bills. Yeah, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.960 I want to talk a little bit more about that 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.080 in terms of some things that we saw that we 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.840 hadn't necessarily seen from the Packers, but real quickly, the 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.120 Green Bay Packers get ready for game day with the 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:33.320 powerful noise canceling technology of Bo's Quiet Comfort thirty five headphones. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.920 To learn more at www dot bos dot com. Slash 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.839 Packers Bows the official headphones of the Green Bay Packers. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:42.640 All right, West, If you were to ask me, what 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.919 were the two things that we saw in this game 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.240 that we just haven't seen in through these through the 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.040 Packers struggles over the last month and a half, it 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.840 was converting on third down and it was getting a 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.799 big game changing play from the defense the third downs 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.599 seven out of thirteen. Maybe it is because I finally 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.719 went through all of the horrible, crappy numbers on third down. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.760 On last Friday Show, the Packers had converted eight third 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.680 downs in their last three games combined. They converted seven 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.200 on Sunday. That that tells you right there how much 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.039 of an improvement it was. Now a couple of those 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.679 were Aaron Rodgers scrambles. It wasn't that everything was smooth 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.799 and hunky dory and completely in rhythm on third down. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.440 But if you're going to convert seven out of thirteen, 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.960 you take that anytime. And then on the defensive side, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.280 Bashad Brill and getting that pick six. The Falcons make 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.719 the mistake on special teams after the Packers score. I 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.479 forget the returner's name, but he must the kickoff, he 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.200 must the kickoff at the goal line, and he only 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.359 gets out to what is that the eight yard line? 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.000 So the Falcons are in a field position bind. And 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.000 then sure enough, a few plays later, Matt Ryan tries 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.200 to force one in there, and Bryland is there for 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.200 the pick and he just waltzes into the end zone. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.040 Suddenly a seven game, Marvin Hall right, Suddenly a ten 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.400 seven game is is seventeen to seven. The Packers are 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.400 in complete control and that defense is riding high. The 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.480 last interception the Packers had was Brilan's at Lambeau Field 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.000 against Miami right three three, three, four weeks prior, whatever 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.160 it was, and it was the first pick six by 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:27.040 a Green Bay Packers defender since Week five of last 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.160 season at Dallas. So we talk all the time about 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.480 how big those types of plays are, and yeah, in 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.440 a thirty four to twenty game, you know, it kind 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.080 of just becomes another play. But at the time ten 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.160 to seven second quarter and it goes to seventeen to seven, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.040 I thought it really took whatever whatever energy the Falcons 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.080 might have had from getting a touchdown on their opening drive. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.040 It was gone by them. You know, there's three things 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.320 It's like West Hodds, three things always here that really 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.239 stood out to me about this defensive performance. The first 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.360 one is I gotta tip your cap to Mike Petton 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.360 Joe ed Jr. For what they did with the defensive 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.440 passing game. Here's the deal, Mike, you don't have Kevin King, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.000 He's gone the rest of the year hamstring injury. In reserve. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:14.120 We'll see in So they start three rookie cornerbacks with 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:18.679 Hermont Williams playing safety, jire Alexander, Josh Jackson, and Tony 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.000 Brown in undrafted rookie who started the season on the 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.880 team's practice squad. You have Bishod Brillan available. He's up, 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.360 he has he's coming off the growing injury. It would 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:33.520 have been really enticing for a past defense that has 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.880 had to weather a lot of injuries. He finally get 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.360 somebody back here to throw Brilon out there and just 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.720 you know, put the pedal to the medal. Petton didn't 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.319 do that. Wit didn't do that. They were very strategic 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.240 with how they used him. He even mentioned it afterwards 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.360 Breland did, and that there, you know, he was on 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.520 kind of a rep count. They wanted to be smart 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.040 with them because they don't want to have one more 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.960 aggravation that could be the season. Well, didn't we see, 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.959 and I'm sorry to interrupt you, didn't we see at 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:04.520 one point early a defensive package with eight defensive wasn't 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.160 one of them eight defensive backs on the field and 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.679 Brian was still on the sideline. That's how careful they 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.720 were being with Eddie Pleasant and Will Redmond entered in 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.160 that package and Brian was still on the sideline. So 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.040 here's the deal. Breland finally comes in, makes the tackle 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.280 right before that play, and then, as he's done so 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.040 many times now throughout his career, is able to just 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.800 perfectly time his jump. He knew it was basically one 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.360 of two routes that they were gonna be looking for 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.360 on that play to Hooper gets in front of the 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.240 ball and he's off to the end zone. The other 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.480 thing I really liked about, you know, this whole defensive 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.040 performances and not to be labor what you're trying to 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.959 avoid early on with that, the two upheld challenges, make 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.800 of them what you will. I'm sure at some point 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.079 this offseason you and I are gonna be doing a 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.280 Packer's unscripted talking about, Hey, we still don't know what 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.280 it catches. But here's the thing I really liked about it, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.120 and the thing that you know, Jyr Alexander, Truman, Williams, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.800 Clay Matthews, a number of guys talked about in the 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.360 locker room that same thing. Was saying about, how you know, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.959 Joe Philbin's still sort of introducing himself to this defense. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.600 He can talk until he is blew in the face 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.559 about unity and respect, accountability, all the things that he 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.280 preaches as a head coach, but until you are in 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.640 the heat of battle, you don't know what it's like 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.800 playing for a coach. JR. Alexander said it right from 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.200 the beginning. He was matching Julio Jones having a head 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.520 coach step up and say, you know what, I'm gonna 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.600 throw their challenge flag on the first one, which wasn't 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.000 a catch. I don't care if if me in my 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.040 nephew aiden are playing football in the backyard, I would say, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.160 I'm sorry, son. That wasn't a care. Absolutely no way 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:44.400 on God's green Earth that that was a reception two 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:50.400 plays later, more of a traditional challenge where it was 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:55.439 you know is Julio Jones and tough call. Joe Philbin 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.760 is at a point right there where he has to 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.839 make a decision do I want to challenge this and 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.680 don't have any challenges the rest of the game doesn't 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.800 mean enough to me? And Jr. Alexander said this. Traumont 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.200 Williams said it. That was the quintessential moment of a 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.000 head coach saying you know what, I have your back, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.199 I trust your talent. And even though they both got upheld, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.000 I think that gave this defense some juice. They ended 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.520 up scoring on that drive, no question about it. But 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.400 the next five or six possessions, I forget what it was. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.920 They hold the Falcons six possessions, six possessions, no points. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.200 They caught a break. They caught a break with the 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.840 one botched third down by Matt Ryan where he lost 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.319 the handle in the ball and lost a bunch of 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.640 yards and then they missed the field goal. But other 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.080 than that, the other the other five possessions, one of 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.920 them being the six pick the pick six, excuse me. 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.840 The other five possessions no points, no, no even real 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.520 threatening to score then until the game was thirty four 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.280 to seven and it was well inhanded, incredible, And I 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:51.960 think that that was one of the things when you know, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.600 we didn't have a chance to talk to Mike pett Yeah, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.840 but I have to imagine Mike Petton appreciated that, because 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.680 when you're in the heat, when when things are going down, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.760 you give a forty eight yards off the first two 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.719 plays that you feel are not completions. You need to 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.320 be able to show that you're willing to step up 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.560 for your guys. I think Joe Philbin did that. Yeah, well, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.640 speaking of having your back, I want to return to 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.080 that topic in a second here West but at home 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.080 or here in the stands, we all know that Green 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.920 Bay fans give it their all and that takes a 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.600 lot of energy. So grab a warm bowl of Campbell's 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.280 Chunky soup. It's meaty goodness fuels the greatness of Packers 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.840 fans everywhere try the delicious classic chicken noodle soup. Just 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.880 visit your local supermarket and ask for Campbell's Chunky Sup 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.080 Official Sup partner of the Green Bay Packers. All Right, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.000 you said it. The defensive players felt that their head coach, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.360 their new head coach, their interim head coach, whatever you 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.320 wanna call it, had their back with those early challenges. 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.840 As dubious as the strategy might have been, and Philbin 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.480 admitted that after the game that throwing the second challenge 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.239 flag less than two minutes into the game probably not 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.040 not necessarily the um the smartest move from a strategic 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.199 standpoint to make. But we saw at the end of 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:03.320 the first half, Aaron Rodgers takes a shot from Atlanta 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.680 defensive back Brian Pool as he scrambles, goes into a slide, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.440 takes a pretty big whack to the back of the shoulder, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.520 you know, somewhere on on the back side there. Didn't 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.280 didn't hit him in the head, didn't hit him with 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.240 his head as far as I could tell. But a 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.719 Packers offensive line down three starters, playing with three reserves 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.760 in Lucas Patrick, Justin McCrae, and Jason Spriggs, all filling 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:31.080 in up front, the first guy down the field to 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.480 defend Mr Rogers and ended up creating a little bit 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.320 of a melee, if you want to call it that. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.760 In the in the middle of the field there is 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:45.600 Lucas Patrick, the former undrafted player out of Duke and Uh. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.760 Aaron Rodgers said it flat out after the game. As 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.559 far as his teammates reaction to him getting hit like that, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.720 he said, I loved it. Yeah, the moose stashed enforcer. 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.520 As I said on Twitter right afterwards. If you don't 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.559 any thing about Lucas Patrick though, and you know, I 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.720 believe this is only his third career NFL start, but 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.280 if you go to training camp practices, if you go 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.360 to some of these preseason games, he's not afraid to 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.960 mix it up. And I think you always have to 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:13.840 have some of those guys. T J. Laying was one 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.120 of those guys. Evan Smith was one of those guys. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.360 Has always been one of the other side of the ball. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.400 YEP that if you got to step up for your teammates, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.000 you have to step up for your quarterback. You're gonna 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.200 do that. You know. You can get into a whole 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.480 discussion on whether or not Pool's hit was illegal or illegal, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.680 I think from the law, the rule of what am 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.040 I trying to stay here, the law of the land, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.080 letter of the law. Thank you, Michael English major Communications 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.520 major uh is that it probably was a clean hit, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:45.120 but it was a rough physical hit. Pool left his 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.920 body and and threw his shoulder almost his head into 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:51.480 the back of Rogers. So here comes three and eight 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.240 pound Lucas Patrick and his buddy Corey Linsley charging down 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.560 the field and they went right into the fray. Patrick 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.160 ends up getting into a little bit of a dust 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.640 up with d On Jones. Very interested to see what 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.480 the league does with Dion Jones, because I know Jones 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.720 was the first one to throw a punch, right I was. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.320 I was surprised, I said to you sitting in the 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.440 press box. As soon as it happened, when Jones kind 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.360 of jumped on top of everybody, you could see him 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.920 swing his arm. I'm like, well, there's an ejection and 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.200 they didn't throw him now. But I think he's going 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.920 to get one of those FedEx envelopes in his locker 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.840 on Wednesday, don't you think. Yeah. I think he's gonna 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.000 just not get a paycheck this week. I mean Honestly, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.480 that's a that's a tough thing. I don't know what 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.800 his his stuff had been in the past. But here's 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.880 the deal. As far as Lucas Patrick getting back to 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.600 the original point here, Mike, this is a guy that 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.440 if you remember him from two years ago, over two 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.960 years ago. Now he comes into the Green Bay Packers. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.760 He's on a tryout right at rookie orientation camp. They 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.440 bring him in, they give him a couple of meals, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.560 they tap him on the head, say good job, son, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.040 They send him on his way. He's getting ready to 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.480 move on to his real the real world, and the 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.360 Packers end up calling him back. They give him a 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.120 chance to come into training camp the next year, doesn't 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.880 make the roster, but ends up on the practice squad 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.240 the whole year, and then last year due to probably 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.320 a lot of attrition and injuries on the offensive line, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.680 he ends up making the roster with Justin mccraie as 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.680 their backup interior offensive lineman. This is a guy that 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.520 has been through the back roads of the NFL and 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.240 and one of the things he mentioned the locker room 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.040 afterwards is Aaron Rodgers in what he's done for him 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.200 kind of having his arm around his shoulder and having 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.480 his back over the years as a formal tryout guy, 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:25.360 now protecting the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Rogers 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.200 has been there, he supported him, and with given the opportunity, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.200 he wants to reciprocate. He wants to have Rogers back. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.800 He's not afraid. He was asked about, Okay, you were 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.200 pretty light with the offensive line. If you get tossed there, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.920 did you think about what that can mean? And he's like, no, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.240 I really didn't. That didn't enter my head. But he 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.000 said it was a reaction. He wanted to go out 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.440 there and have his quarterbacks back. And Davante Adams, I thought, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.240 had a really interesting quote too, you know, as a 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.480 Pro Bowl receiver kind of having a knowledge of of 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.840 Patrick saying, this is one of the toughest guys I've 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.760 been around. So I don't know if it's the stash, 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.240 but obviously it meant a lot for the Packers to 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.160 see him step up. Well, it's certainly meant a lot 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.800 to Aaron Rodgers and Rogers also referenced in his postgame 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.600 press conference the a similar type of situation two years 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.480 ago down in Tennessee. Rogers Packers are losing the game 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.040 by a fairly large margin. But Rogers scrambles and scores 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.080 a touchdown and he's three or four yards into the 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.760 end zone and gets hit by a Tennessee Titans defender 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.120 and a bunch of guys, as Rogers said, here comes 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 the cavalry, like a bunch of guys really came to 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.119 his his defense there. And it was actually a video 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.120 clip that Rogers kept on his phone because he liked 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.159 it so much of how how his guys kind of 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.720 rallied around him when when he took an unnecessary shot 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:46.040 from a defensive player there. So personally, I thought, for 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.719 everything that we've seen over the last several weeks, how 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.640 the Packers have come out of the locker room after 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:55.080 halftime at Seattle at Minnesota against Arizona really being flat 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.840 and not having any energy in the in the second half, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.600 I thought the fact that that happened right before halftime, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.800 and I'm sure that was what all those guys were 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.800 talking about in the locker room for that twelve thirteen 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.600 minute intermission, I thought that had a big factor in 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.240 the Packers coming out and bang bang two touchdowns on 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.480 two drives to start the second half, and putting that 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.800 game away. Yeah, I agree, and I mean it also. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.679 I was the headline on my sidebars that you know, 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.200 this team still has a lot of fight left. I 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.600 think that showed you what fight this team has left. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.680 And Rogers said that said that as well. That was 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.240 one of his comments. If you're if your quarterbacks get 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.160 hit like that, you aren't stepping up. I'm not saying 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:31.840 you have to go in there and start throwing haymakers 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.479 that guys, but you're pushing the pile a little bit 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.359 and showing him that it's not going to stand. Yeah, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.840 you need to be able to check the temperature a 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.920 little bit like that. Lucas Patrick Shure did it back 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.240 in the day, just out of curiosity. Did you ever 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.320 wear a mustache at all? No? I can. I can't 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.240 grow one if I Patricks is pretty good. Oh yeah, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.240 he's if if you're standing on the field and you 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.040 see that man number sixty two eight pounds wearing that 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.320 mustache coming after you, you know it's on. Yeah. Well, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.880 and and somehow he avoided the unnecessary roughness penalty because 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:02.600 they they gave it to Core. They gave it to 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.439 number sixty three instead of number six. You ended up 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.720 being off setting and it didn't matter, but it's how 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.160 it sounded like Lindsley kind of got a kick out 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:11.840 of that after the game when he was told the 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.359 penalty was actually called on him. Yeah, it was pretty 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.040 pretty funny how that works out. Now we're gonna have 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.679 to see what the league has to say about that 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.320 on Friday. But you know, be that as it may. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.399 Maybe maybe Corey Lindsley's FedEx envelope is going to end 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.920 up in Lucas Patrick's locker, but by the time practices over. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.760 But but yeah, those are those are the you know, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.520 those are the type of moments where you really see 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.359 what your team is made out of. And I thought, 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.160