WEBVTT - Two Sides of the Same Bed 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.400 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.160 On today's podcast, we are going to have the great 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:10.879 debate on which side of the bed do you sleep 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.000 and do you have a regular end this video that 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.720 went viral on TikTok with this TikTok couple are there? 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.080 Hello? 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:17.720 Hello? 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.120 Because I really thought you were gonna be in your 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:24.440 bedroom when we got on. It's what made you famous. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.120 So I'm going to need you guys to take us 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:32.519 to where you sleep and lay down and get a try. So, 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.440 I mean, are you as shocked as kind of? I mean, 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.519 look when I saw the rundown, I'm like, wait, what 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.800 what is this? Like what I mean you just were 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.080 talking about your bed position sleeping. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:53.360 Yeah, it was definitely shocked. We usually post DIY content. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.200 We do DIY renovation and home decor. Very rarely do 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.520 I ever talk into the camera like that. But we 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.800 had a conversation with two of our friends. I don't 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.119 know how it came up, but like sleeping arrangements came 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.240 up and we mentioned how we don't have a regular 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.880 side of the bed. We just sort of switched it 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.800 up and they were so freaked out by that and 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.240 the reaction was so funny that I thought, oh, I'm 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.119 just going to post that on TikTok and see what 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.600 other people say. It's as crazy as ever as our 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.679 friends said. And I definitely did not expect it to 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.200 get the response that it. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.839 Did because it does not seem that interesting to us. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.920 But yeah, okay, so walk us through the TikTok like 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.360 just like kind of describe it for people that haven't 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.319 seen it and are listening to this and are like, Okay, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.360 hang on a second, we need to know what's happening. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.560 Yes, So the TikTok, I'm literally just telling the camera 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.000 that we don't have a regular side of the bed. 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.040 Last night, I slept on that side of the bed. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:50.800 The night before I. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.600 Slept on this side of the bed. It's not something 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.640 we talk about. We just kind of randomly choose and 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.800 is just as crazy as everyone thinks it is. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:00.560 That was it. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.520 It was like a twenty second TikTok and we got 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:08.360 like nine thousand comments, and we were on Insider magazine 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.760 and ABC News and we got like hundreds of stitches 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.639 and some of those stitches got millions of views. So yeah, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.239 I just kind of exploded from a very simple fact. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.239 That's what's so interesting about TikTok because I feel like 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.400 some videos are like low and then the next they're like, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.799 you know, million million views, and I'm like, the algorithm 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.760 makes no sense to me, nor like even the topics 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.400 of certain things, because I you know, I'm sure you 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.359 would have expected something else to probably get higher likes 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.200 or whatever. And then but I feel like people, well, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.400 I don't know. I mean, I don't really it's not 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.640 really a thing. I mean, it's just kind of like, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.839 that's your side, and that's your side. So I call 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.920 it the murder side and the non murder side of 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:49.239 the bed. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:50.880 So the closest to the. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.560 Door is the murder side. So I'm like, if anyone 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.680 ever never said that, you're going to go first, and 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.720 so I make my husband sleep on the murder side. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.840 Oh the door. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.959 There were so many comments about that. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.440 We never even thought about, like if if there was 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.280 an intruder, who's going to get attacked for it didn't 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.120 cross our minds. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.080 But it should be. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.400 You, Skylert, should be you. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.240 But here's the question. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.960 Our bed is the door is right here and on 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.160 the other side is a window. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.880 So I don't know, Well, that's the robber side, not 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.800 the murder side. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.200 Okay, so that makes sense. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.000 While they get a little and feels like you get 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.799 a little more of a heads up, you know, so 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.720 I like the robbers. You can hear I can hear 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.240 the window. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.720 Oh got it right? So wait, so y'all don't even 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.520 talk about it, Like so whoever goes to bed first 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.520 just kind of decides where they want to sleep and 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.520 then the other person goes on the other side, or 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:42.960 do you go to bed at the same time, and 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.760 it's just like, see what happens. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.360 You got a bed at the same time, and whoever 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.760 gets in versus who dictates what side of the bed 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.440 they're sleeping on. And I don't think we've ever discussed it. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:56.240 It's just always been this, I guess, quirky habit we've had. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.400 I think a couple of times, like sometimes I, let's 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.000 say I'm on one side of the bed for a 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.960 couple of days or a week, which is a lot, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.360 and then all of a sudden I switched. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.680 Skyler will be like, oh, like, not that side anymore. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.680 Like occasionally we'll bring it up if like we've fallen 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.680 into a certain pattern, but it's just I mean, we've 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.840 been together for ten years. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.240 This is so regular. It's not something that we. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.159 You guys, we've been on the road for like a year, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.280 and we have our sides in the bed and we 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.080 have our sleeping arrangements and we turn into a hotel room. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.839 We know who's sleeping with you on what side? 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.800 What about like your bedside tables, like your stuff on 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:30.600 your bedside table. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.400 We don't have stuff. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.240 Okay, well, okay. 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.520 The same phone chargers was another thing that people talked about. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.640 We have like the same phone charger, and like we 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.560 have stuff in our nightstand drawers. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.200 But we don't access it nightly. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.279 Like all of our skincare stuff, all of our bedtime 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.880 routine stuff is in like the bathroom and our vanity, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.560 Like we don't do anything in bed to get ready, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.520 because that was another big comment that people. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.200 We don't do that any there. But like, so then 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.080 you're not fighting over chargers. It's kind of nice. We're 0:04:59.080 --> 0:04:59.640 always like who. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.280 Took my ar? It's like the bed equivalent of a whiteboard. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.680 You're just like, see what we do here every single night. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.240 But if you so, obviously you have your side of 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.000 the bed Christian, Yeah, Janna. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.479 Obviously there you go. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.440 But when you go to like a hotel, do you 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.039 ever switch it up? Or do you stay with the 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.360 same side of the bed when you go to a 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.240 hotel or some or sleep somewhere different. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.400 I stay on the same what do you non murder? 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.080 Oh my god? You okay, we will we will switch 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.520 it up in like a like a different place, not 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.920 even not even thinking about it. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.920 It's content the layout of the room, like. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.080 If there's a like not that's her, not me. I 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.600 have never thought of a murder side. I just if 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.240 I'm in a hotel, it's different. So I'll sometimes just 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:43.640 pick the other side of the bed on. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.640 Murder side though that's the well. In the old house, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.240 I was on non murder side, but it wasn't the 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:50.960 right side of the bed. But now right side of 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.320 the bed here at the rental and the new house 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.240 will be by the door, so I'll be on murder side. Well, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.120 I give you. I vote you most likely to handle anybody, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.240 Especially when I heard a noise and I was like, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.280 get up, get up, and I was like grab the gun, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.479 and I think he was so uncomfortable, like holding the 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.800 gun down. I'll take care of this. I was like, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.440 Michigan's side really sneaks out. Yeah, I was like, give 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.080 me the gun. Do you guys have animals? Do they 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.800 play into this? What do we have? What name all 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.479 the heartbeats that exist in the bed nightly? So I 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.440 know the players and pieces we're working with here, all. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.400 Right, I'm Angelena. This is Skyler, our cats. Could actually 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.080 see them in the background. That's Blue and Bree, and 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.279 Blue usually likes to sleep next to me and Bree 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.120 likes to sleep next to Skyler, so they sort of 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.080 switch with us. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:41.400 You switch side. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.400 I know they're like, what's going on? 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.040 Our habitat is rocked funny? 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.760 They're probably so confused. So okay, so you do DIY stuff. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.080 What is what is one of your favorite DIY things 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:51.760 that you like to do? 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:55.479 That's a great question. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.599 I mean I think some of my uh, some of 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.320 the content that's done the best and that we. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.440 Like showing is just our whole house renovation. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.080 We bought our house in twenty twenty and it's the 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.200 nineteen fifties house and was a big fixer upper, so and. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.000 We renovated it all just the two of us. 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.960 So we sort of documented that whole journey of doing 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.280 everything rehaving the floors, knocking down walls, and then the 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.880 decoorse stuff came later, which is also fun, like painting 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.720 and wallpaper and all that type of fun stuff. So 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.320 I just I love showing the transformation, the big transformations, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.440 but we also do the small transformations too. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.080 Were you, guys di Wires before you bought this house? 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.360 Like did you? Are you savvy and knowing what you're doing? 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.160 Because we could buy anything and we would have no clue. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.280 I build houses for a living, so for me. 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.080 Okay, it's work. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:49.360 Yeah, I hate it's work, and I'm like clumsy, not knowledgeable, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.680 not crafty at all. So together he was sort of 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.000 the expert teaching me how to do things, and then 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.080 I learned as we went along. But yeah, this was 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:02.600 all totally new to me, not my well love expertise whatsoever. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.080 That's why Skyler's face was a little like frozen. When 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.440 you're like it's so fun, He's like, is it now? 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.400 Is it? 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:10.480 Well? 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.520 Because you build houses, is there one thing? So I'm 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.120 moving into a new house that I built in a 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.000 couple of weeks, is there one thing that I'm like 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.119 I should have? Well, I probably I'm like, what should 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.960 I have? Done better with But like, is there anything 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.320 that like I need to look out for with the building, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.360 even though I mean this is not my second build, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.440 but like, is there something where I should like check 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.319 to make sure before I head into the house. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.120 If it's all new, you you should be good. I mean, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.320 it's all just standard. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.240 Maintenance from that point, cool air filters in the air 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.959 conditioner and you know, flush out the water heater every 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.480 couple of years. But it's just I mean, if it's 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.000 all new stuff, then you should be good. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.720 Guys, I haven't flushed anything in two years. Water the 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.439 air filters are always I always find it. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.480 It depends where you live to Like, our water is 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.000 very hard, so there's a lot of calcium deposits stuff 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:01.360 like lines. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:02.200 Apparently ours is. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.000 I think ours is too. I don't know that we've 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.960 done that either, but I know that's on my list. Actually. Yeah, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.240 so like thoughts of the next TikTok that's going to 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.480 be so random and go viral again, Like you'll have 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.400 any ideas any Like. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.640 We were like thoroughly discussing like what other weird habits? 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.520 Yeah, like what else is weird about y'all? 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.760 But I mean we're very normal people. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.040 So we didn't think this was that weird. So maybe 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.520 we're not normal, So maybe you're not. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.520 Maybe there's not normal. That's not normal. I need to 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.880 say it. You've been reiterated by thousands and millions, But. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.880 Did you have anyone say that they do that as well, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:38.800 like anybody. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.640 Yes, we've had comments. I think like one percent. There are. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.840 There are people, especially as big as it gets, there 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.040 are more people commenting like, oh, that's us too. But 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.200 the vast, vast majority are people calling us serial killers. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:58.280 There is something wrong with you guys. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.080 But I'm the one that has a murder side. Do 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.719 you have places that you watch TV, like when you 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:02.280 sit down at the couch? Is that a free for 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.000 all too? I mean, I just feel like your whole 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.480 life's real willy nilly At this point I need to 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.120 know like, yeah. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.599 That's a free for all. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.120 It's all yeah, Like we don't have a spot at 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.360 the kitchen table, we don't have a spot on the couch. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.640 Sometimes when we're watching TV, you know, because there's a 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.240 chase part and then there's like the couch part. Like 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.080 in the middle of watching something, we'll look at each 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.120 other and we'll be like, let's switch, you know, because 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.960 there's like there's depending on where you are in the couch. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:28.800 You know, my shoulder might start hurting on this side, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:29.480 so I need to. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.760 If I tried to take the chase part of our couch, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.480 I might there might be a divorce attorney involved, like 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.559 I have, I've married a creature. We like he has 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:47.960 a habitat you know, yeah, not us. Well, congrats on 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.000 the TikTok and I hope that you know, it's it's 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.320 a good promotion to for everything else you guys got 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.559 going on. So that's awesome, and we will now follow 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.719 along where can our listeners fall along to see if 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.840 there's any more weird things that pop up. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.079 Yes, on TikTok and YouTube, we are renovating our home 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.920 and then on Instagram we're underscore renovating our home. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.959 Cool, awesome, Well, thank you so much for coming on. Bye, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.240 Sweet Dreams. You know what I was thinking about when 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.959 they were talking about it was like and not that 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.240 Like I mean, Alan is a very cleanly person, like 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.679 he showers all the time, but like it's just I 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.400 want to lay in like their spot, I don't know, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.920 and again it's like I lay on top of them 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.760 or like we like do all the things, but like 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.080 I wouldn't want to, like it's like. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.520 Yeah, it's like they're spot and they're like, yeah, I 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:39.040 wouldn't either. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:44.320 I don't know. Yeah I would do that level unless 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.320 you're like changing the sheets every day for some reason 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:47.840 that that. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.000 Don't even like to take his pillows, Like sometimes our 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.920 pillows will get mixed up and I'm like, no, no, no, 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:52.920 that's your pillows. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.559 Because I have It's like I don't know. It's like 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.120 a still yeah, and there's like a smell still not that, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.400 not again, not that, but because he doesn't he always 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:06.199 smells great, but still still and I like my outside 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.800 but yeah, they say that. I can't remember what it was. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.920 But there was something about like how your skin sheds 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.520 and you actually should wash your sheets more than what 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.200 the two weeks. Okay, that would be my question. How 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.760 often are you guys changing sheet? Well, not as often 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.160 as same. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.920 I should, probably not as often as I should. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.800 Either it goes by fast. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:26.319 Yeah, I feel like it. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.840 That's what happens with the air filters too. Unless I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.079 have like the maid coming every two weeks, then I'll 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.040 leave the sheets out. But sometimes I'm like, oh shoot, 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:35.800 because they don't wash the sheets. They're just like leave 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.360 them on the bed. But if I forget and I 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.080 don't have an extra set, and I'm like, oh, it's fine, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.080 just leave it, and then it's like a month. So 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.480 I'm sure this will shock you. But I don't like 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.959 the way people make my bed. No shock, no shock. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.280 So I have to make my bed. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.960 So you have cleaners come and tell them not to make. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.920 Your bed yep, I literally say, don't touch the master bed. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.600 Here's my problem though, which I will agree, which drives 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.000 me crazy is if I end up using if I 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.640 end up using cleaners again, which I most will, but 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.360 they never make the bed the same each time. And 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:04.920 I want to take a picture and be like please 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.880 because I have to now go back take off the 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.000 sheets because they use the wrong sheet, like what's supposed 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.600 to be like my duvet cover. They use it as 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.560 like the bench cover, and I'm like, no, it's not 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.400 the right sheet. Like listen, I don't my own husbands, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.880 their own interior designers. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.440 Yeah, just like yeah, no does too. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.079 Plus we have like very definitive sides, like I have 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.760 a shocking again, a weighted blanket franksiity on my side, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.360 and I'm always like in a snowsuit with seven layers 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.360 of comforters, and his side is like fan in the face. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:36.440 That's our room. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:37.040 Yeah. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.160 So it's a little like we even have like different 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.120 blankets sometimes because if I have my big thick one on 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.559 because we change them a lot are comforters, then he'll 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.640 like literally push my thick one over and just get 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.760 a thin one for him. And then if the cleaners come, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.800 it'll be like thick one and thin one and like 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.079 all of them because they don't know. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.800 Yeah, and then I'm tired and pissy. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.440 this just doesn't go here. I know, hashtags, I mean 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.880 that doesn't bother. Listen. I've been trying to so I 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.280 have asked for help, right, Oh good. Remember when I 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:04.959 had a mental breakdown last week, I got a lot 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.120 of support online. Oh good, I g FAM really supported me. 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.720 I had a vulnerability hangover bad. After that, I was like, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.280 I cried, why am I you know? 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:14.200 Oh you're good. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.640 So I have gotten cleaner's back. 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:18.720 Good. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:19.760 Yeah, I'm excited. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.680 Does that help you or stress you out? 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:21.800 More? 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:22.080 Though? 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.160 So far, I think I'm just at a point where, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.440 like I have realized I'm only one human, so like, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.480 any help is great good and I have a great cleaner. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:36.400 Got it from Sarah Bryce. Actually, oh no, no, anybody 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:41.280 I ever give her she has a problem with right, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.760 But then any person she ever gives me ends up 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.960 being a problem like that. She ends up like oh 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.160 I ended up not liking this, or I ended like, oh, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.520 I know, because she gave me a woman, I have 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.440 to say a different name, right, can I should I 0:14:53.480 --> 0:15:00.800 not use your name? Different name Judy, Judy Judy. Sorry, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.680 she's great, but the kids you're gonna, oh, for babysitting 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.120 or cleaning, So no, for like babysitting, she's like a grandmother. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.000 You're gonna love Judy. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.080 Let her in, she's gonna be awesome. And then I 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.520 literally am like opening the door for Judy, and I 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.440 get a text from Sarah don't let Judy. Hey, by 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.080 the way, I meant to tell you, Judy is a 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.240 no go. I'm like, well she did that to me too, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.880 standing in front of me, so we're gonna have to 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:23.640 She gave. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.800 Us a babysitter, and I used her for a long 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.440 time and she was like, oh yeah, I didn't like her, Babby. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.480 No, Okay, I'm changing names. I don't know because you're 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.480 changing sure, Babby, and had like the whole summer thing 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.560 planned out and then she canceled, like a day before 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.840 school got out, that she couldn't watch the kids over summer, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:46.520 and like I had planned it with for like mikes 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.479 weeks two, like to help out Simon or not very unreliable. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.320 Well, the one I used was very reliable. I loved her. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.560 But then Sarah came back and was like, yeah, no, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.160 and I was like, oh, I love her. I've been 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:57.520 using her. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.120 Did her name ryme with Mary? 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:01.040 No? 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.720 Because that was another one that's hair game. And I 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.360 just need to go on record for saying that I 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.360 teed her and I up with the tutor that I 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.160 thought might be helpful for the kids this summer because 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.880 I was like, I was super pregnant, brand new baby, 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.760 maybe like just a couple hours a week with this teacher, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.640 and the teacher ended up bailing on both Sara and 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.640 I after talking from February to May about the plans. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.680 So we're one for one there. Well, Sarah had called 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.160 me the other day and she's like, hey, so, what's 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.760 your hair girl's name? I go, Nope, I won't do 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:28.440 it to the hair girl. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:29.320 I'm not going to do it to me. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.160 I was like, I love you, but nope, because anybody 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.920 that I've ever sent her, she's like, well I don't 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.160 like this. I'm like, that's fine. The problem is I 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.320 don't like doing but she can do her own hair, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.400 I know. But then she always complains about her I know. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.840 But since she knows what she's doing, she's extra. Yeah, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.160 but like the flashes that like I gave her my 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.560 my last cleaning lady and like she was my clean 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.320 lay is awesome. I think she's so good she's yeah, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.200 and so they just never mind. I won't say that 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.400 it's mean, but well no, I just like every time 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.080 I have to record, that's when they want to like 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.840 really loudly talk, and it's hard because I'm like working 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.520 from home too, right right, you know what I mean. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.080 So then they don't understand what I'm saying. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:15.159 Can you? 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:16.600 Yeah, I don't. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:25.400 No, No, you will cut that. I'm just saying, they're 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.000 very loud. Anyways, we're gonna cut that. Okay, so cutting 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.880 that is. But no, but anytime like I gave her 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.440 like my cleaning lady, she like there was like, oh, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.359 she didn't wash the inside of the top corner of 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.960 the my and I'm just like, they might have missed 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.760 that spot. That's way back to Sarah. And I read that, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.879 I was just like, no more. And then her people, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.920 I'm like, no, I'm good. Well, if I ever mean 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.840 to them or like ever say anything negative about anybody 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.000 that knows my address, I think that's like a good 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.480 rule with them, like you know where I live. So 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:03.879 I'm just always like, great job today and I just reschedule. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.640 but but no. Good Old Sarah Bryce got a lover. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.280 She's literally the most unintentionally funny person I've ever met. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.439 She's great, She's so good anything something's really important. When 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:16.959 she's calling you at seven in the morning while I'm 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.160 getting the kids all ready for school and I'm like, hey, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.840 I call it seven's with Sarah, I wonder and I'm like, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.440 oh Jesus, she or the life. No. When she goes 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.600 call me and I'm like thinking, oh God, something like 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.760 really happened. And then she's like, when did I lose 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.520 our passport? Again? I was like, your passport and it 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.320 was is that what? 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:37.680 Yes? 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.800 Yes, thinking she said nine one she did. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.280 She was freaking out and then it was like, hey, 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.560 do you remember when I was like, oh lord. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:49.000 Sarah, I thought someone died, Like anyways, well this just 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.560 became I don't even know what happened. Take a break 0:18:51.640 --> 0:19:08.560 and then we'll come back on with something else. All right, Kabi, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:14.680 what do you got? Oh? Laughing, not crying. That's refreshing. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:15.200 Hu. 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.080 I surprised my husband. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, okay, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.520 with a what guys, this is actually kind of awesome. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.480 So I surprised my husband with a staycation in Franklin 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:28.800 because it was fifteen minutes down the road from the 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.880 new baby. I just teed us up really wisely. At home, 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.800 we have had a night do look come for the baby, 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:36.440 so I could feel extra reassured there. I had Miss 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.800 Ashton with the kids, and she's nice and OCD and 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.160 great and so I loved that. And I brought his 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:46.399 best friend from home down as a surprise. So his 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.280 best friend and his wife came and they met us 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.639 at dinner and it was just nice because they're not industry, 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.879 and it's he doesn't with travel get to see his 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.639 people enough, and that's kind of like how he plugs 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.160 back in and he doesn't have to be on because 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.960 they're just as homies, you know. Can I just say 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.960 little caveat? Yeah, you always say that you want to 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.200 just be with like you and him. You don't get 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.840 you and him time. So was introduced or to having 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.040 that friend come in? Was that like was this for him? Yeah? 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:12.560 Got it? 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:13.719 Just for him, just for him? 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:14.600 Got it? Got it, got it. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.600 I was gonna just do the night us and I. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.960 That was great, but I just know a little nice 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:19.520 thing for him. 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:20.639 Yeah, like it. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.920 It's also kind of like sneaky for me though, because 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.040 I was getting a hotel and my kids, like I 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.280 didn't have to wake up and we were gonna have 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.639 breakfast in bed. So yeah, So the next morning we 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.000 get up, it's like six thirty and he's waking me 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:35.960 up and he's like, we we should probably get on 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.480 we should get out of here and head home. And 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.239 I'm I get six thirty. I've never seen this man 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.199 up before six thirty unless he has a flight, you know. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.680 So I say okay, and I'm trying not to take 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:48.520 it personal, but the story I'm telling myself is like 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.520 I guess, like just not attractive. We don't want to 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.120 do anything this morning, like, I'm confused because we don't 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.400 have kids, and I'm in your oversize. Sure, and that's it, you. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.040 Know, m hmm. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.320 Okay. So he's like, baby, let's just get some coffee. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.280 And it keeps going, Baby, you look real hot. Let's 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.159 go get some coffee. And I'm like, but if I 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.480 look hot, then get over here, you know, because you're cleared. Yes, yes, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.439 oh yes, yes, yes, yes for four weeks. 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:12.879 Okay. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.000 It was the same week his parents came to visit. Okay, okay. 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.920 So anyways, he's moving me along and I can't quite 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.960 figure out why he's moving me along. I'm trying not 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.360 to take it personal, almost like okay, whatever. So we 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.960 go downstairs, say hi to the friends, grab coffee, and 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.439 he's kind of rushing me, and he goes, I have 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.480 to tell you something. Belly sinks, right, because I'm always 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.240 just waiting for the worst. He said, you surprised me, 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.119 but I was actually surprising you. So we have a 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.879 flight out this morning, and the reason I'm rushing new 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:43.520 is because we really have to be on our way 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.160 to Bna by like nine point thirty at the latest, 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.679 and we still have to get back home so that 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:50.480 you can grab a change of clothes, and I said, 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.720 can I know where we're going? And he said, you can't. Ah, 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.359 I know. So next thing I know, I'm landing in 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.480 Detroit to see the Cubs play Detroit time yours. This 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:02.920 is Michael Caprera's last season, and I wanted to get 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:03.480 to the game. 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:05.040 That's amazing. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.960 Rose up from home plate and we got to date 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.040 and drink beer and eat nachos, and he rooted for 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.199 the Cubs and I rooted for the do That was 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:20.960 so cute. It was really wonderful. Ah, I don't know. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:22.040 I love that. 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.320 So his manager, our doula, the babysitter, all calling at 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:28.480 the Friend's episode, the one with the double surprise, because 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.800 everyone was bending, that's amazing, that's so creat When did 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.960 you come When did you come back? Yesterday morning? So 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.960 you were gone for how many nights? Two nights total 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.960 in Detroit? No one night? Okay, Yeah, he knew his limits, 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.160 and he actually panicked because he thought, that's two nights 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:48.800 away from the baby. She's not going to do that. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.240 And everyone was going, I didn't know if I should 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:51.680 tell you. 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:53.359 I'm glad that you can do it. 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.639 That's good. I did it. It took a beer, but 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:56.000 I did it. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.680 Into a hotel for me for our like one year 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.000 back together or whatever. Yeah, but I woke up that 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:06.320 morning feeling like death, and I slept pretty much the 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.639 entire time in the hotel day and night. 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.040 I kept I'd wake up, but I'd go. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.320 I'm really sorry, babe, I'm really sorry. It's like, it's fine, honey, 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:15.919 I just went back to sleep. 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.199 He as fine, as he's writing in his diary. Oh 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:19.639 what did he do when you were sleeping? 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.720 He literally watched I fell asleep, but I mean we 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.040 would like watch something, and then I mean we got 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:28.119 dinner and ate in the room. We were going to 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:29.880 go to dinner, but he just he walked and got 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.879 dinner and brought it back, and then he was watching 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.960 a football game and then like went to bed early. 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:36.840 I woke up at like nine thirty. He's like, all right, well, 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.240 I'm gonna go to bed, and I was like, no, 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.320 I'm up. But I only stayed up for like an hour, 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.240 Like I was so tired. I just did not feel 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.800 good and I felt we got massages. We did also 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.240 get massage, okay, so it was great. It was just funny. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.239 I felt terrible I was like, I'm so sorry, but 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.600 it was also just nice to sleep. 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.240 I know, there's a lot that hinges when you do 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.960 like a one night it feels a little like pressure too. 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.400 Yeah, you know that. He was great about it. Because 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:01.880 I kept saying I'm so sorry. He was like, it's 0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.080 totally fine. I mean, it was fine. It was nice. 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.440 Alan and I have never done a vacation together. That's sad. 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.800 It's okay, We're going to get there. No we haven't. 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:11.639 We'll get there. 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.960 Yeah. We were thinking about doing a baby moon in October, 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.080 but there's just so much going on that I'm like, 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.280 I don't even know if I have time. Yeah, it's tricky. 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.119 It's just a tricky time of year. Yeah, I know. 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.639 So we'll figure it out. But I would like, you 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:28.639 can make it work. You did a baby moon, and 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.280 I'll be honest, I kind of want a refund. It 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.840 was great, but like I was so sick. 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:35.240 Mm hmm. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.240 I know, and it was amazing, but I just kept thinking, gosh, 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.720 I would have we should like I wanted to have. 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:46.680 Born moon. 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.080 Yeah, I'm going to be full steam ahead, like work, 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.840 you know, like wanting to work and travel to like, yeah, 0:24:56.080 --> 0:25:00.280 pay for three kids. 0:24:58.560 --> 0:24:59.879 Like just warning, let's go. 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.640 But no, I think there's a piece of me too 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:08.280 that has a little bit of like a negative taste 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.080 of the baby moon because I know the stuff that 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.240 happened with my like ex like right before, like when 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.399 we had discovery. One of the things he told me 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.680 happened a week before that our baby moon in la 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.879 which I thought was like the most magical trip we 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.000 had and we were in like we went to the 0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:28.040 montage in Laguna Beach and I'm like, wait, a week 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.040 before you were X, Y and Z, Like I just 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.640 I don't know it like kind of like tainted then, 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.120 like that baby moon was like the biggest like even 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.960 though they say, like you know to hold like what 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.560 was happening in the moment was real, but it still 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.600 like taints it a little bit. Yeah that's you know. 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.600 Yeah, so do you want like a do over? 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.480 Well, And then like for Jase, we didn't really do one, 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.639 Like it was like a let's not because I was 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.000 so scorned by the like baby moon name that I 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:58.520 was like, let's not call it it. But we went 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:02.199 to like a pool and right, I'd like, but we 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.800 didn't like travel or vacation for it. So a piece 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.600 of me is like, do I want to do over 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.960 or like I never had a baby moon before this one, 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.960 and this one was kind of a honeymoon baby moon. 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.439 It was our first trip ever just the two of us, 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.000 and we've been together eight years. Yeah, well, and I 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.720 never had honeymoon either, shockingly, so so of all the 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.119 so I feel like, maybe we don't even have to 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.120 call it. I wouldn't have even called ours a baby moon, 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:27.959 but the resort did when they found out. 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.560 Remember if I had, I don't even remember. I'm sure 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.760 we traveled, but I never like made it like this 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:34.920 big thing. I don't think. 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:49.480 You know, did you guys ever see a thing with 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:54.400 Kelly Clarkson in the Push Present? How people were like, oh, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.560 you know, she was like, I never got a push present. 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.399 I should have known that she was joking. People were 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:03.480 started to be mean, being like, you know, you being 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:07.520 like thinking that she was being what's the word? Yeah, 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.199 she said she never got one, yes, yeah, And then 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.879 she's like, I should have known when I never got 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.560 a push present, like basically, but that people were saying 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.120 like that she was being what. 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.680 Is the word feels no, it feels. 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:26.159 Disingenuous now it's at that game a word, what's that 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:26.959 game like? 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:33.960 Not reading the room like I got to know it? 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.159 Like I love her too, But I felt. 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.120 That way a little bit when I read it, really like. 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.199 That she was being what's the word like pretent No, 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:44.120 not pretentious. 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.679 It's like there's plenty of people that don't get pushed 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.720 present like she wanted to diamond and be like okay, 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.800 like really you're married. But again, I love her not 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.040 trying to talk whatever. And I don't think that that 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.040 was necessarily her intention, but it did feel very like 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.679 not pretentious, but something like that. You know, it just 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.560 felt very like, Okay, plenty people don't get push presents 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.159 like that. Shouldn't be mean that your marriage was doomed 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:08.040 because you didn't get right. 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.359 And I think she was joking when she said it. 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:11.600 Yeah, I think she. 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.280 Was having said that. I would say, and this is 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.719 actually very interesting for you to say this because you're 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.840 a gift girl. I am so you like gifts, like 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.399 gifts is your love language. Absolutely so, And I'm not 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.280 a gift girl. But for carrying your child for nine months, 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:28.879 I want a gift. 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.000 I want a little and I'm not saying I want I'm. 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.679 Confused the bush presents the human. 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.840 Yeah, see, I don't know, I the. 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.720 Gift of life. Can I get us back on track? 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.480 Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think i'd be mad 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.120 about I don't remember if I get. 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:48.920 Mad, But I think I would like it to be 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.280 like here's the nine months even hurled over a toilet 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.440 and like feeling sick and not being able to eat 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.560 hardly anything, and like you know what I mean, and 0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.400 just like a nice pretty little maybe like a little 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:05.640 ring with like the birth speaking, like the birthstones of 0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:10.880 all three kids. That would be really cute. Okay, okay, 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.920 are you going to text it's for everyone? But I'm 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.920 just saying it's not like something that. Again, I wouldn't 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.680 be upset. I think it's just a nice gesture. Oh yeah, no, 0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.600 I won't be mad. I'm not going to say our 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.840 marriage or is going to be doomed because he doesn't 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.040 give me a busch present. I'm just saying it's I 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.640 think it's a nice gesture. I agree, gesture gesture. 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.800 I agree. I think my was just saying. When I 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.200 read her saying it, I was kind of like, oh, 0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:37.720 I don't. 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.040 Think I would have said that but as a gift girl, 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:41.480 why do you not want that? 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:43.280 I didn't say don't want it? I said I didn't. 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.520 I said I felt that way when she said that. 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.000 But you don't care. You wouldn't care about anyone because 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.200 you haven't, right all I have? 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.760 Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember, honestly. No, that's the thing. 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.360 I know. I can't remember if I got it. What's 0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.400 the third? Honestly, ca, which is terrible. It was probably 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.200 something so great, and I just can't think about it 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:08.720 right now. I just I am a gift person. I 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.000 just that one. I don't know wouldn't bother me that 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:13.000 much for it. 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.720 Because you're distracted by the immense amounts of healing that 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.320 you're doing that you're not thinking about. 0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.960 I don't even remember. But honestly, I probably put him 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.440 through so much craft when I was pregnant that, like, really, 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.320 I was so sick and probably made him do everything, 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.000 and did I probably made him do everything? 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.600 Were you ever snippy? 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:33.480 Yeah? 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:34.120 Yeah? 0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:40.520 Okay, were you? Were you because hormones and pregnant? 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:41.120 Right? Well? 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:42.320 Sure, yes. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:47.800 Said this to be pregnant woman over. 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:55.840 Here, Yes we do, Janna, Well, we all snippy. I 0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:00.640 was very spicy this pregnancy. Yes, you were to you. 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.240 I'm always nice to you. 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:03.240 What did I say? 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.719 Was I snippy somewhere in saying but like you were 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:07.680 snippy with breast? 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.880 Look at me, you guys? 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.320 Kind of so like to ask her if she was. 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.440 Like, okay, let me rephrase. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:19.040 Okay, you know some women are like truly miserable pregnant. 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:24.000 You know, well, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna point both. 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.600 Y'all out, but you know how y'all Okay. 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.640 So I didn't get to see you pregnant ever, and 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.320 I wondered if you were like I. 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.719 Would take me as someone that would be like I 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.080 was not necessarily as snippy as I was, just like 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.760 sick and miserable and made him do everything. Okay, And 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.720 I'm really thinking back to my last one the most, obviously. 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.600 So we had two kids, and I was like, take 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.160 these children away from me while I sleep. 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:47.760 Like, you know, the joke is always about pregnant women, 0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.920 like we're so hormonal and we rage out and all 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:50.360 these things. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:52.440 I don't think I was a rager, No, I just 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.720 felt really really bad. Yeah, And so I felt for 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.160 him because it's like that was a lot on his plate, 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.160 especially if you're having a third I mean that's a lot. Yeah, 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.120 but I probably got a push present. I just don't remember. Sorry, 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.400 I'll i'll ask him later. I don't remember the third one. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.880 Probably helped him get it for you, probably, Yeah, can 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.520 you get through your text chain? What did you get? 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.080 I got this Tiffany bracelet with three little diamonds for 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.840 three little babies. Oh see, that's cute, sweet and like delicate. 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.440 But you would have been fine just having the gift 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:24.120 of line. Yeah, I never got I didn't get push presents. 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.840 I was so excited. I'm like, this is what they 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.960 look like. H Yeah. I don't think Allen knows it 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.160 there and he doesn't listen to this podcast. So can 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:37.000 we talk about Scottish verse versus American on Instagram? Sure? 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.800 Because I'm a host. And then somebody sent me and 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.520 crossed gream and I'm so sorry that there's a sentence 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:48.760 that literally Scottish people cannot say the purpurple Oh he can, 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:49.200 he can. 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:49.560 We did it. 0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:51.640 We did it on my TikTok. Is it purple purple 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.120 burglar alarm? And he can do it, he can. It's 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.040 just the way they say burglar is funny. Oh, like 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.320 it's I can pull it up. I'm gonna pull it 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:07.600 up on my TikTok. But no burger burger burg But yeah, no, 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.520 it's just it's it's how they say, like the actual 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:14.720 Oh sorry, let me see here. 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:17.080 That said. 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.760 Scottish people can't say purple burglar alarm. I'm going to 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:27.720 go test it on the boyfriend. Okay, say that four 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:31.680 times fast, as fast as you can four times. 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:40.480 Purple bug let alone, purple bugle it alone alone alone. 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:42.640 You did it better than I could do. 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.959 Yeah. I couldn't say anything four times fast though. Yeah, okay, 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.040 but no, that was funny. I got a good laugh. 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.680 Swimming costume, That's what it was. Swimming cost the first 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.160 time he said that because I had heard that one 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.880 obviously before. I see that's like, are you gonna bring 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:04.479 your swimming costume? And I'm like what He's like, you're 0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.480 swimming costume? And I'm like, explained, because a costume to 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:11.960 me is when you dress up in Halloween. So what 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:13.080 does he think Halloween is? 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:13.640 Like? 0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.440 Does is there are those? Just I've never asked. We 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.640 need to know because it's on your list. It's a 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:23.320 bathing suit or a swim suit. Yeah, yeah, a swimming 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.920 costume like that was like as if I'm going to 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.279 be Michael Phelps for Halloween. Yeah, it was interesting. I 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.000 really enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. It was all good. Yeah, 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:33.839 we're gonna do maybe a few more of those because 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:38.799 they were fun. I love you, But I guess that's it. Yeah, 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.040 I'm good. You know, just breathing over there, just breathing. 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:46.240 Is he kicking? He's kicking. Oh, he's a soccer player. 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.799 Gousie's a soccer player. So girls, are you gonna say 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.520 something bad to us? No? I do have a question. 0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.759 I don't like the look in her eyes. Cat So 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:06.719 So I had a conversation with someone about coming on 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:16.560 the podcast. Oh no, and it wouldn't be until October, 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:24.680 But would you guys want to be on the podcast 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.640 when this person comes on the podcast? I was thinking 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:35.040 of doing a like part series with it, because obviously 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.239 my book is coming out in October, and he has 0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.399 not really shared his side of things, and I think 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.719 when one side comes out, it's important to hear the 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:52.920 other and then also to maybe, you know, talk about 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:56.799 how we've been able to move on co parenting, what 0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:02.840 he's up to things like that, and I was thinking 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.400 about it, and because we had the conversation the other 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.439 day when he was driving me back from some things 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:12.320 I needed to ride with the kids, and he brought 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.799 it up and we just discussed it and I said, OK, right, 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.560 let me just kind of like wrap my mind around this. 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.439 I was like, well, I think Mark would for sure 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:23.000 want to be on and we can maybe have that 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:28.680 as like a thing where like I ask listeners if 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.240 they have any questions or if they want to know something, 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.040 and Mark can kind of ask those questions and then 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.400 we can do like a Thursday episode of like co parenting, 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:45.759 and then another one would be with you guys. But 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.440 if you're not comfortable, I wouldn't put you on the spot. 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.920 Then I'm putting you on the spot now because I 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.640 want to know so I can just like because it's 0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:57.000 a lot to like process and plan in my brain too, 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.160 I feel that myself. What undecided? 0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.839 What did he say? Does he know that there's an 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:08.200 option of having well aka me in the room? I 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:08.680 don't know if you. 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.759 Take it, I'll just say he took a really big 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:12.400 deep breath. 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.200 Yeah, I don't think he'd want me in a room. 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:19.080 With him, so does he want But he didn't say, no, huh, 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.640 what do you want me in a room? Well, I said, well, hey, 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.480 like obviously I do my podcast with Kristen and Catherine, 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:27.680 so like, you know, maybe like the first one it's 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.880 just like Mark and you and I, and then the 0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:35.560 part two is with the girls, and then the third 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.319 is like you and I again and with just like 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.359 co parenting and like you know what he's doing now 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.360 and you know, support whatever he's kind of going, you 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:47.560 know what he's doing. And again it's like it's something 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.160 that I know I'm bringing. I'm going to talk to 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:51.560 my therapy therapist about it because it is still like 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.640 there's still so many, so many layers too to it. 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.279 So it's like to but yeah. But then when I 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.880 was like, well, and you know Kristen and Catherine, it 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.120 could be in the episode two, and he just went 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.080 so he didn't say yes or no, and which then 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.160 to me goes, okay, well let me lego. Let me 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.040 just kind of wrap my mind around this because I 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.560 think it's I see like the pros and cons, and 0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:30.000 I see I also think too, you know. He this 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.840 was also his podcast too, and so people listened and 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:38.760 maybe they want to also have or hear sure something 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.319 from him, you know, or like a because I don't 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.000 think it's let's take anybody that misses Mike. Raise your 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.680 hand now, just saying so, I just would you guys 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.839 be comfortable or do you need time to think about it? 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.040 Because you said you need I would say I need 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.600 a minute, okay, I would like to. I mean I 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.600 have seen him one time since then, I haven't seen 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:07.440 him as often as probably you have, Kat, I just 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.600 need I would say I need a minute. I feel 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.760 fully like there is a place that you guys exist 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:17.920 in my brain that I feel really good about. That 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.160 I kind of always saw in YouTube. Do you remember 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:21.600 me saying to you like, I always thought you guys 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:26.720 would be really good friends or better friends than a couple. 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.439 So there's a part of me that sees him that way. 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.640 But then there's just a part of me that makes 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.120 me want to cry a little bit, like just witnessing 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.439 a lot of hurt for someone that I really love 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.000 a lot. So that's hard for me. 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.319 I would do it. I just don't think he would 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:49.400 sit down with me, And I think that's also hurtful 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.400 and hard for me because I know how much he 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:55.080 hates me, and that's I know it's not about me, 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.840 but that also there is something there for me. 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:03.320 Also, why do you think and like, I mean, I 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.239 would want to listen to that podcast because I'm sure 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.400 there's many people in that situation where like, and I 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:08.920 don't want to put you in a situation where you're 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.040 not comfortable, which is why I'm asking ahead of time. Yeah, 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.160 but like if you're not comfortable and you're like, I mean, like, 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.319 I would never put you in that situation. Absolutely having 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.839 said that, as like a listener, I'm sure there's many 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.279 times where friends are like would want to hear the 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.680 like friendship of the person because you were also you 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.239 guys were all also hurt in that situation and for 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.880 you to say, well, he hates me, I don't. Again, 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:35.399 it's like it was his own hatred. I believe that, 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.719 like it was never like, why do you think he 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:38.200 hates you? 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:44.680 I just I think that there's a lot of blame 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.760 he puts on me. I don't know. I think it's again, 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.839 it's not about me. But the times that I've seen him, 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.640 I see it in his eyes. He won't speak to me. 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.719 I've kept his child he won't bring her to me. 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.239 I mean, there's a lot of reasons. There's been a 0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.439 lot of I would love to bury the hatchet with him. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.719 I would love to be able to see him. I 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.840 would love to be able to tell him the things 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.040 that like, you know, we were friends too, you know, 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.400 and he you know, it's just that got ripped away 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.680 so fast, which is fine. I think we always side 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:16.359 with our friends. And it was hard, like you said, 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.640 to see her, but like there's probably just hurt on 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.279 both sides obviously, But I would I would welcome that conversation. 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:24.640 I just don't know that he would. 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.200 Do you think that he wouldn't because of the ownership 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.600 it would take for him to sit down with you, 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.719 because I don't know, I don't. Do you think he 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:39.080 would hate her? Listen, I mean Catherine was always the one, 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.880 and I you know, I wrote this even in the book, 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.719 like you told me to leave many times that I 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.560 would be like, but I never did, you know what 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.399 I mean? So he can't hate you for something that 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.279 like a never hap you know what I mean? And 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.279 only he can't. I think it's just again his own 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.560 actions because he can't look you in the eye knowing 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.759 all the things that you know that no one will 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.239 ever know true, you know, Yeah, that's hard. I think 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.280 it's his shame that he can't work you in the eyes. Yeah, 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:08.240 that's what I'm wondering. 0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.919 Yeah, and probably I know that there's you know, yes 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:11.359 that like. 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.560 I'm saying, it might feel good for to him to 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:14.640 have you say. 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.399 And there was there's things that I mean, I could 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.200 I've got things I would love to say to him. 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.640 I mean I think about it often actually, so I mean, I'm. 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:24.759 That's where I'm at. 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:30.439 So I don't know what would you say or what's 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.359 one thing that like what like, what do you want 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:33.040 to say to him? 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:38.880 I cared about him too, and so that doesn't just 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.680 go away. I think that you can care for someone 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.000 and then make the worst actions in the world, But 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.040 that doesn't make you, know a care, you know, caring 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.600 about someone to go away, and that at the end 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.400 of the day, I in my mind, I wasn't just 0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.680 looking out for you, I was also trying to look 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.960 out for him. I felt like y'all were toxic together, 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.680 and that what was so frustrating because it became so 0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.840 us against him, and I just want to explain to 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.359 him that it truly wasn't just this I hate Mike. 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.200 It was not It was y'all have to get out 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.879 of this. Y'all are not healthy, and I just don't 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.640 I understand why you wouldn't see it that way, but 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.640 I would love to be able to explain that to him, 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.240 because he wasn't happy either, you know. So it's like, again, 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.799 I did care about him, It wasn't just like you know, 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:31.600 so I don't know. 0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:37.600 Well, it wouldn't be until like October, so yeah, you 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.680 have some time to think about it. But I'm also 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.480 like when he mentioned it, it was like, Okay, I 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.160 kind of need time to like process because what I 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.000 don't want to happen is get him on and like 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.840 drudge up, Like I don't want a whole episode of 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.879 like because I'm like we're past that, but there are 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:59.520 still things that like need to like be flushed out 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:05.399 and then also you know, but not like stay in that. 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:05.840 You know. 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.399 It's like, let's ask the questions I want. So it's 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.799 like I want to be very like mindful of if 0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.719 there are any questions from the past, I do want 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.200 to ask that I don't know yet, you know. So 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.120 it's like I need time with that to like process 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.000 and then them like does that even matter? And like 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.439 do I want to put that really out? So it's 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.839 like I just need to like process that side too. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.200 I do think I do think this is a healthy enough, 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:32.399 mature enough like you and I are healthy enough, mature 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.840 enough to like lead it to a good place. I 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.759 think we've always seen what could be good about him 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:42.040 and defended him or played Devil's advocate in times not defended. Sure, 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:45.920 So I don't think it for me, it's not like 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.040 this like flipping tables moment and that's what I'm afraid of. 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:54.520 It's just I just I don't know. I'm like, I'm 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.439 careful with my words even here. Well, I think that's why, 0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:59.960 like you have to think about what you'd really wan 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.040 want to ask, because again I don't want to spend 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.840 time in the past because I don't think I have 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.000 any questions about that. 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.120 I think it really should just be if there's something that. 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:09.680 Like I have one in the book when I was 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:14.359 doing the audio and I'm like, I was like, man, 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.560 I always kind of want to know that, you know, 0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.840 And I'm just wondering, can I think it's something that 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:24.120 a lot of divorced women might also still wonder about 0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.399 like their X. So it's something that I'm like, I'm 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:27.640 but I'm like, I don't know, I got it. So 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:29.040 it's like I got to sit with these things. So 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.759 it's like, find what you would want to ask if 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:33.240 that opportunity comes up. 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.280 And does he have stuff in mind that he wants 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:40.920 to say or ask? Do you think maybe yeah? 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:46.640 I think for him, I think he just wants you know, again, 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.680 And with the book coming out, it's like I don't 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.760 want it to be about him. Yes, there are stories 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:55.640 about him, but I also think, you know, he has 0:45:55.680 --> 0:46:00.279 a right to not be defined by certain headline and 0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.640 stuff like that. So I think it's just creating again 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:08.480 growth instead of like just turning, you know, letting the 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:13.960 publications take certain excerpts from the book and then turn 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.680 it into something that it's like this is actually where 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.799 it's at and like, yes, that was a story from 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:23.480 a while ago, but you know, and turning that into 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:28.480 a more positive spin. And also, you know how we've 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.520 been able to and not well at you know, not 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:34.520 well at times a couple of weeks ago, it's just like, yes, 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.520 I just got triggered from our past because you said this, 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:40.359 and it's like it's that's a that's a full time 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:45.760 job too, like taking emotions from past triggers with us 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.680 and co parenting the kids and not letting those come up. 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.040 It's hard. So I think how we've you know, talking 0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.520 about how we've been able to manage that still young 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.799 and new at it. I'm hoping ten years from now 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.920 it's even light years better, but hopefully that could be good. 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.880 And then you know, he's he's starting, you know, he 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.279 has a business and he's you know, I think I 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.200 will always promote people, especially the you know, father of 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:10.959 my children that may need help to you know, grow 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.200 his business. So it's like I look at it as 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:18.040 a way where it's growth on all angles. I think 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.680 it's mature and wonderful to have the conversation I think 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.960 it is when you say it used to you know, 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.680 he used to this used to be his podcast too. 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.560 I think all of that makes a lot of sense. 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.319 I really do. I think it shows the maturity. I 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.480 I think it's great, just not sure what I I'm 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.160 just not sure. 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:37.680 Where I would be. 0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.840 All right, Well, there's time to think about it. But 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:49.879 without being wildly like I get really like, you don't, yeah, 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.480 mess with my friend, So I don't and I know 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.040 he's not. Yeah, well there's nothing he can do now, 0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:56.640 you know. Now it's like that's the. 0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:58.600 But he did. 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.000 So that's hard for me still because well, again, I 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.800 think it shows like how people can like there's so 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:05.880 many people that can relate to the situation and like 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.919 and I do think he can be changed. I think 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.280 he can grow. I think it could be two guys. 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.680 I was married before, we were not we Some people 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.520 are just not good for each other or bring out 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.880 the best in each other. It's like chemical or whatever. 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:24.360 That I get it. So we'll take a beat on that. 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.279 I'm going to see what the wind down listeners also 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.880 want to, because again, this is something that they're you know, 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.960 this is this is for you know all, it's all 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:37.000 likes see how we all feel. Okay, let us check 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.840 everybody's temperature with that, so you guys later, he