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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: On today's podcast, we are going to have the great

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Speaker 2: debate on which side of the bed do you sleep

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Speaker 2: and do you have a regular end this video that

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Speaker 2: went viral on TikTok with this TikTok couple are there?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Because I really thought you were gonna be in your

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Speaker 2: bedroom when we got on. It's what made you famous.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to need you guys to take us

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Speaker 2: to where you sleep and lay down and get a try. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you as shocked as kind of? I mean,

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Speaker 2: look when I saw the rundown, I'm like, wait, what

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Speaker 2: what is this? Like what I mean you just were

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Speaker 2: talking about your bed position sleeping.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was definitely shocked. We usually post DIY content.

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Speaker 5: We do DIY renovation and home decor. Very rarely do

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Speaker 5: I ever talk into the camera like that. But we

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Speaker 5: had a conversation with two of our friends. I don't

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Speaker 5: know how it came up, but like sleeping arrangements came

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Speaker 5: up and we mentioned how we don't have a regular

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Speaker 5: side of the bed. We just sort of switched it

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Speaker 5: up and they were so freaked out by that and

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Speaker 5: the reaction was so funny that I thought, oh, I'm

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Speaker 5: just going to post that on TikTok and see what

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Speaker 5: other people say. It's as crazy as ever as our

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Speaker 5: friends said. And I definitely did not expect it to

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Speaker 5: get the response that it.

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Speaker 6: Did because it does not seem that interesting to us.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, so walk us through the TikTok like

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Speaker 4: just like kind of describe it for people that haven't

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Speaker 4: seen it and are listening to this and are like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: hang on a second, we need to know what's happening.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So the TikTok, I'm literally just telling the camera

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Speaker 5: that we don't have a regular side of the bed.

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Speaker 5: Last night, I slept on that side of the bed.

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Speaker 6: The night before I.

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Speaker 5: Slept on this side of the bed. It's not something

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Speaker 5: we talk about. We just kind of randomly choose and

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Speaker 5: is just as crazy as everyone thinks it is.

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Speaker 6: That was it.

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Speaker 5: It was like a twenty second TikTok and we got

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Speaker 5: like nine thousand comments, and we were on Insider magazine

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Speaker 5: and ABC News and we got like hundreds of stitches

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Speaker 5: and some of those stitches got millions of views. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just kind of exploded from a very simple fact.

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Speaker 2: That's what's so interesting about TikTok because I feel like

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Speaker 2: some videos are like low and then the next they're like,

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Speaker 2: you know, million million views, and I'm like, the algorithm

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Speaker 2: makes no sense to me, nor like even the topics

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Speaker 2: of certain things, because I you know, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: would have expected something else to probably get higher likes

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Speaker 2: or whatever. And then but I feel like people, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't really it's not

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Speaker 2: really a thing. I mean, it's just kind of like,

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Speaker 2: that's your side, and that's your side. So I call

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Speaker 2: it the murder side and the non murder side of

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Speaker 2: the bed.

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Speaker 6: So the closest to the.

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Speaker 2: Door is the murder side. So I'm like, if anyone

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Speaker 2: ever never said that, you're going to go first, and

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Speaker 2: so I make my husband sleep on the murder side.

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Speaker 2: Oh the door.

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Speaker 3: There were so many comments about that.

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Speaker 7: We never even thought about, like if if there was

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Speaker 7: an intruder, who's going to get attacked for it didn't

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Speaker 7: cross our minds.

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Speaker 1: But it should be.

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Speaker 2: You, Skylert, should be you.

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Speaker 6: But here's the question.

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Speaker 5: Our bed is the door is right here and on

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Speaker 5: the other side is a window.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, Well, that's the robber side, not

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Speaker 2: the murder side.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: While they get a little and feels like you get

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Speaker 2: a little more of a heads up, you know, so

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Speaker 2: I like the robbers. You can hear I can hear

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Speaker 2: the window.

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Speaker 1: Oh got it right? So wait, so y'all don't even

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Speaker 1: talk about it, Like so whoever goes to bed first

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Speaker 1: just kind of decides where they want to sleep and

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Speaker 1: then the other person goes on the other side, or

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Speaker 1: do you go to bed at the same time, and

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Speaker 1: it's just like, see what happens.

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Speaker 7: You got a bed at the same time, and whoever

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Speaker 7: gets in versus who dictates what side of the bed

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Speaker 7: they're sleeping on. And I don't think we've ever discussed it.

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Speaker 7: It's just always been this, I guess, quirky habit we've had.

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Speaker 5: I think a couple of times, like sometimes I, let's

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Speaker 5: say I'm on one side of the bed for a

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Speaker 5: couple of days or a week, which is a lot,

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden I switched.

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Speaker 6: Skyler will be like, oh, like, not that side anymore.

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Speaker 5: Like occasionally we'll bring it up if like we've fallen

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Speaker 5: into a certain pattern, but it's just I mean, we've

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Speaker 5: been together for ten years.

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Speaker 6: This is so regular. It's not something that we.

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Speaker 2: You guys, we've been on the road for like a year,

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Speaker 2: and we have our sides in the bed and we

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Speaker 2: have our sleeping arrangements and we turn into a hotel room.

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Speaker 2: We know who's sleeping with you on what side?

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Speaker 1: What about like your bedside tables, like your stuff on

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Speaker 1: your bedside table.

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Speaker 3: We don't have stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay.

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Speaker 5: The same phone chargers was another thing that people talked about.

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Speaker 5: We have like the same phone charger, and like we

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Speaker 5: have stuff in our nightstand drawers.

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Speaker 6: But we don't access it nightly.

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Speaker 5: Like all of our skincare stuff, all of our bedtime

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Speaker 5: routine stuff is in like the bathroom and our vanity,

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Speaker 5: Like we don't do anything in bed to get ready,

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Speaker 5: because that was another big comment that people.

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Speaker 1: We don't do that any there. But like, so then

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Speaker 1: you're not fighting over chargers. It's kind of nice. We're

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Speaker 1: always like who.

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Speaker 2: Took my ar? It's like the bed equivalent of a whiteboard.

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Speaker 2: You're just like, see what we do here every single night.

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Speaker 1: But if you so, obviously you have your side of

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Speaker 1: the bed Christian, Yeah, Janna.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there you go.

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Speaker 1: But when you go to like a hotel, do you

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Speaker 1: ever switch it up? Or do you stay with the

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Speaker 1: same side of the bed when you go to a

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Speaker 1: hotel or some or sleep somewhere different.

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Speaker 2: I stay on the same what do you non murder?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? You okay, we will we will switch

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Speaker 1: it up in like a like a different place, not

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Speaker 1: even not even thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: It's content the layout of the room, like.

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Speaker 1: If there's a like not that's her, not me. I

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Speaker 1: have never thought of a murder side. I just if

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Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel, it's different. So I'll sometimes just

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Speaker 1: pick the other side of the bed on.

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Speaker 2: Murder side though that's the well. In the old house,

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Speaker 2: I was on non murder side, but it wasn't the

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Speaker 2: right side of the bed. But now right side of

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Speaker 2: the bed here at the rental and the new house

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Speaker 2: will be by the door, so I'll be on murder side. Well,

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Speaker 2: I give you. I vote you most likely to handle anybody,

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Speaker 2: Especially when I heard a noise and I was like,

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Speaker 2: get up, get up, and I was like grab the gun,

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Speaker 2: and I think he was so uncomfortable, like holding the

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Speaker 2: gun down. I'll take care of this. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Michigan's side really sneaks out. Yeah, I was like, give

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Speaker 2: me the gun. Do you guys have animals? Do they

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Speaker 2: play into this? What do we have? What name all

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Speaker 2: the heartbeats that exist in the bed nightly? So I

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Speaker 2: know the players and pieces we're working with here, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm Angelena. This is Skyler, our cats. Could actually

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Speaker 5: see them in the background. That's Blue and Bree, and

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Speaker 5: Blue usually likes to sleep next to me and Bree

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Speaker 5: likes to sleep next to Skyler, so they sort of

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Speaker 5: switch with us.

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Speaker 6: You switch side.

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Speaker 2: I know they're like, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Our habitat is rocked funny?

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Speaker 2: They're probably so confused. So okay, so you do DIY stuff.

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Speaker 2: What is what is one of your favorite DIY things

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Speaker 2: that you like to do?

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Speaker 6: That's a great question.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think some of my uh, some of

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Speaker 5: the content that's done the best and that we.

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Speaker 6: Like showing is just our whole house renovation.

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Speaker 5: We bought our house in twenty twenty and it's the

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Speaker 5: nineteen fifties house and was a big fixer upper, so and.

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Speaker 6: We renovated it all just the two of us.

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Speaker 5: So we sort of documented that whole journey of doing

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Speaker 5: everything rehaving the floors, knocking down walls, and then the

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Speaker 5: decoorse stuff came later, which is also fun, like painting

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Speaker 5: and wallpaper and all that type of fun stuff. So

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Speaker 5: I just I love showing the transformation, the big transformations,

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Speaker 5: but we also do the small transformations too.

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Speaker 2: Were you, guys di Wires before you bought this house?

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Speaker 2: Like did you? Are you savvy and knowing what you're doing?

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Speaker 2: Because we could buy anything and we would have no clue.

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Speaker 3: I build houses for a living, so for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate it's work, and I'm like clumsy, not knowledgeable,

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Speaker 5: not crafty at all. So together he was sort of

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Speaker 5: the expert teaching me how to do things, and then

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Speaker 5: I learned as we went along. But yeah, this was

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Speaker 5: all totally new to me, not my well love expertise whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: That's why Skyler's face was a little like frozen. When

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Speaker 2: you're like it's so fun, He's like, is it now?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: Because you build houses, is there one thing? So I'm

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Speaker 2: moving into a new house that I built in a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, is there one thing that I'm like

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Speaker 2: I should have? Well, I probably I'm like, what should

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Speaker 2: I have? Done better with But like, is there anything

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Speaker 2: that like I need to look out for with the building,

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Speaker 2: even though I mean this is not my second build,

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Speaker 2: but like, is there something where I should like check

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Speaker 2: to make sure before I head into the house.

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Speaker 3: If it's all new, you you should be good. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's all just standard.

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Speaker 7: Maintenance from that point, cool air filters in the air

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Speaker 7: conditioner and you know, flush out the water heater every

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Speaker 7: couple of years. But it's just I mean, if it's

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Speaker 7: all new stuff, then you should be good.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I haven't flushed anything in two years. Water the

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Speaker 2: air filters are always I always find it.

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Speaker 7: It depends where you live to Like, our water is

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Speaker 7: very hard, so there's a lot of calcium deposits stuff

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Speaker 7: like lines.

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Speaker 2: Apparently ours is.

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Speaker 1: I think ours is too. I don't know that we've

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Speaker 1: done that either, but I know that's on my list. Actually. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so like thoughts of the next TikTok that's going to

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Speaker 1: be so random and go viral again, Like you'll have

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Speaker 1: any ideas any Like.

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Speaker 7: We were like thoroughly discussing like what other weird habits?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like what else is weird about y'all?

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Speaker 3: But I mean we're very normal people.

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Speaker 6: So we didn't think this was that weird. So maybe

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Speaker 6: we're not normal, So maybe you're not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's not normal. That's not normal. I need to

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Speaker 2: say it. You've been reiterated by thousands and millions, But.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm tired and pissy. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll come back on with something else. All right, Kabi,

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Speaker 2: what do you got? Oh? Laughing, not crying. That's refreshing.

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Speaker 2: I surprised my husband. Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So I surprised my husband with a staycation in Franklin

439
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 2: because it was fifteen minutes down the road from the

440
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 2: new baby. I just teed us up really wisely. At home,

441
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 2: we have had a night do look come for the baby,

442
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 2: so I could feel extra reassured there. I had Miss

443
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 2: Ashton with the kids, and she's nice and OCD and

444
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,160
Speaker 2: great and so I loved that. And I brought his

445
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: best friend from home down as a surprise. So his

446
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 2: best friend and his wife came and they met us

447
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: at dinner and it was just nice because they're not industry,

448
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 2: and it's he doesn't with travel get to see his

449
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 2: people enough, and that's kind of like how he plugs

450
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 2: back in and he doesn't have to be on because

451
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 2: they're just as homies, you know. Can I just say

452
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: little caveat? Yeah, you always say that you want to

453
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: just be with like you and him. You don't get

454
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: you and him time. So was introduced or to having

455
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: that friend come in? Was that like was this for him? Yeah?

456
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: Got it?

457
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,719
Speaker 2: Just for him, just for him?

458
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: Got it? Got it, got it.

459
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna just do the night us and I.

460
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: That was great, but I just know a little nice

461
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: thing for him.

462
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it.

463
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 2: It's also kind of like sneaky for me though, because

464
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: I was getting a hotel and my kids, like I

465
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: didn't have to wake up and we were gonna have

466
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: breakfast in bed. So yeah, So the next morning we

467
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: get up, it's like six thirty and he's waking me

468
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: up and he's like, we we should probably get on

469
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: we should get out of here and head home. And

470
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm I get six thirty. I've never seen this man

471
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 2: up before six thirty unless he has a flight, you know.

472
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: So I say okay, and I'm trying not to take

473
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: it personal, but the story I'm telling myself is like

474
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: I guess, like just not attractive. We don't want to

475
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: do anything this morning, like, I'm confused because we don't

476
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 2: have kids, and I'm in your oversize. Sure, and that's it, you.

477
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 6: Know, m hmm.

478
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 2: Okay. So he's like, baby, let's just get some coffee.

479
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: And it keeps going, Baby, you look real hot. Let's

480
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 2: go get some coffee. And I'm like, but if I

481
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: look hot, then get over here, you know, because you're cleared. Yes, yes,

482
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 2: oh yes, yes, yes, yes for four weeks.

483
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 6: Okay.

484
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: It was the same week his parents came to visit. Okay, okay.

485
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: So anyways, he's moving me along and I can't quite

486
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: figure out why he's moving me along. I'm trying not

487
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 2: to take it personal, almost like okay, whatever. So we

488
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: go downstairs, say hi to the friends, grab coffee, and

489
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 2: he's kind of rushing me, and he goes, I have

490
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: to tell you something. Belly sinks, right, because I'm always

491
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: just waiting for the worst. He said, you surprised me,

492
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: but I was actually surprising you. So we have a

493
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: flight out this morning, and the reason I'm rushing new

494
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: is because we really have to be on our way

495
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 2: to Bna by like nine point thirty at the latest,

496
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 2: and we still have to get back home so that

497
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: you can grab a change of clothes, and I said,

498
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: can I know where we're going? And he said, you can't. Ah,

499
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: I know. So next thing I know, I'm landing in

500
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: Detroit to see the Cubs play Detroit time yours. This

501
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: is Michael Caprera's last season, and I wanted to get

502
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: to the game.

503
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

504
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: Rose up from home plate and we got to date

505
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: and drink beer and eat nachos, and he rooted for

506
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: the Cubs and I rooted for the do That was

507
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: so cute. It was really wonderful. Ah, I don't know.

508
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: I love that.

509
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: So his manager, our doula, the babysitter, all calling at

510
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: the Friend's episode, the one with the double surprise, because

511
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: everyone was bending, that's amazing, that's so creat When did

512
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: you come When did you come back? Yesterday morning? So

513
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: you were gone for how many nights? Two nights total

514
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: in Detroit? No one night? Okay, Yeah, he knew his limits,

515
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: and he actually panicked because he thought, that's two nights

516
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: away from the baby. She's not going to do that.

517
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: And everyone was going, I didn't know if I should

518
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: tell you.

519
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you can do it.

520
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: That's good. I did it. It took a beer, but

521
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: I did it.

522
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Into a hotel for me for our like one year

523
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: back together or whatever. Yeah, but I woke up that

524
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: morning feeling like death, and I slept pretty much the

525
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: entire time in the hotel day and night.

526
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 6: I kept I'd wake up, but I'd go.

527
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, babe, I'm really sorry. It's like, it's fine, honey,

528
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: I just went back to sleep.

529
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: He as fine, as he's writing in his diary. Oh

530
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: what did he do when you were sleeping?

531
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: He literally watched I fell asleep, but I mean we

532
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: would like watch something, and then I mean we got

533
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: dinner and ate in the room. We were going to

534
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: go to dinner, but he just he walked and got

535
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: dinner and brought it back, and then he was watching

536
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: a football game and then like went to bed early.

537
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: I woke up at like nine thirty. He's like, all right, well,

538
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed, and I was like, no,

539
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm up. But I only stayed up for like an hour,

540
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Like I was so tired. I just did not feel

541
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: good and I felt we got massages. We did also

542
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: get massage, okay, so it was great. It was just funny.

543
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: I felt terrible I was like, I'm so sorry, but

544
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: it was also just nice to sleep.

545
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: I know, there's a lot that hinges when you do

546
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: like a one night it feels a little like pressure too.

547
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that. He was great about it. Because

548
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: I kept saying I'm so sorry. He was like, it's

549
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: totally fine. I mean, it was fine. It was nice.

550
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: Alan and I have never done a vacation together. That's sad.

551
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: It's okay, We're going to get there. No we haven't.

552
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: We'll get there.

553
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were thinking about doing a baby moon in October,

554
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: but there's just so much going on that I'm like,

555
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I have time. Yeah, it's tricky.

556
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: It's just a tricky time of year. Yeah, I know.

557
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: So we'll figure it out. But I would like, you

558
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: can make it work. You did a baby moon, and

559
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I kind of want a refund. It

560
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: was great, but like I was so sick.

561
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

562
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: I know, and it was amazing, but I just kept thinking, gosh,

563
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: I would have we should like I wanted to have.

564
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: Born moon.

565
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be full steam ahead, like work,

566
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, like wanting to work and travel to like, yeah,

567
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: pay for three kids.

568
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: Like just warning, let's go.

569
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: But no, I think there's a piece of me too

570
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: that has a little bit of like a negative taste

571
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: of the baby moon because I know the stuff that

572
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: happened with my like ex like right before, like when

573
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: we had discovery. One of the things he told me

574
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: happened a week before that our baby moon in la

575
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: which I thought was like the most magical trip we

576
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: had and we were in like we went to the

577
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: montage in Laguna Beach and I'm like, wait, a week

578
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: before you were X, Y and Z, Like I just

579
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't know it like kind of like tainted then,

580
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: like that baby moon was like the biggest like even

581
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: though they say, like you know to hold like what

582
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: was happening in the moment was real, but it still

583
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: like taints it a little bit. Yeah that's you know.

584
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you want like a do over?

585
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, And then like for Jase, we didn't really do one,

586
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: Like it was like a let's not because I was

587
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: so scorned by the like baby moon name that I

588
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: was like, let's not call it it. But we went

589
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: to like a pool and right, I'd like, but we

590
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: didn't like travel or vacation for it. So a piece

591
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: of me is like, do I want to do over

592
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: or like I never had a baby moon before this one,

593
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: and this one was kind of a honeymoon baby moon.

594
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: It was our first trip ever just the two of us,

595
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: and we've been together eight years. Yeah, well, and I

596
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: never had honeymoon either, shockingly, so so of all the

597
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: so I feel like, maybe we don't even have to

598
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: call it. I wouldn't have even called ours a baby moon,

599
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: but the resort did when they found out.

600
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Remember if I had, I don't even remember. I'm sure

601
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: we traveled, but I never like made it like this

602
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: big thing. I don't think.

603
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: You know, did you guys ever see a thing with

604
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Kelly Clarkson in the Push Present? How people were like, oh,

605
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, she was like, I never got a push present.

606
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: I should have known that she was joking. People were

607
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: started to be mean, being like, you know, you being

608
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: like thinking that she was being what's the word? Yeah,

609
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: she said she never got one, yes, yeah, And then

610
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: she's like, I should have known when I never got

611
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: a push present, like basically, but that people were saying

612
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: like that she was being what.

613
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: Is the word feels no, it feels.

614
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: Disingenuous now it's at that game a word, what's that

615
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: game like?

616
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: Not reading the room like I got to know it?

617
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: Like I love her too, But I felt.

618
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: That way a little bit when I read it, really like.

619
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: That she was being what's the word like pretent No,

620
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: not pretentious.

621
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: It's like there's plenty of people that don't get pushed

622
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: present like she wanted to diamond and be like okay,

623
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: like really you're married. But again, I love her not

624
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: trying to talk whatever. And I don't think that that

625
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: was necessarily her intention, but it did feel very like

626
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: not pretentious, but something like that. You know, it just

627
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: felt very like, Okay, plenty people don't get push presents

628
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: like that. Shouldn't be mean that your marriage was doomed

629
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: because you didn't get right.

630
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: And I think she was joking when she said it.

631
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she.

632
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: Was having said that. I would say, and this is

633
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 2: actually very interesting for you to say this because you're

634
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: a gift girl. I am so you like gifts, like

635
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: gifts is your love language. Absolutely so, And I'm not

636
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: a gift girl. But for carrying your child for nine months,

637
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: I want a gift.

638
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I want a little and I'm not saying I want I'm.

639
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: Confused the bush presents the human.

640
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I don't know, I the.

641
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 6: Gift of life. Can I get us back on track?

642
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't think i'd be mad

643
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: about I don't remember if I get.

644
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Mad, But I think I would like it to be

645
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: like here's the nine months even hurled over a toilet

646
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: and like feeling sick and not being able to eat

647
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: hardly anything, and like you know what I mean, and

648
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: just like a nice pretty little maybe like a little

649
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: ring with like the birth speaking, like the birthstones of

650
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: all three kids. That would be really cute. Okay, okay,

651
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: are you going to text it's for everyone? But I'm

652
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: just saying it's not like something that. Again, I wouldn't

653
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: be upset. I think it's just a nice gesture. Oh yeah, no,

654
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: I won't be mad. I'm not going to say our

655
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: marriage or is going to be doomed because he doesn't

656
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: give me a busch present. I'm just saying it's I

657
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: think it's a nice gesture. I agree, gesture gesture.

658
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: I agree. I think my was just saying. When I

659
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: read her saying it, I was kind of like, oh,

660
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't.

661
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Think I would have said that but as a gift girl,

662
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: why do you not want that?

663
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I didn't say don't want it? I said I didn't.

664
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I said I felt that way when she said that.

665
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: But you don't care. You wouldn't care about anyone because

666
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: you haven't, right all I have?

667
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm trying to remember, honestly. No, that's the thing.

668
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: I know. I can't remember if I got it. What's

669
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: the third? Honestly, ca, which is terrible. It was probably

670
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: something so great, and I just can't think about it

671
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: right now. I just I am a gift person. I

672
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: just that one. I don't know wouldn't bother me that

673
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: much for it.

674
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: Because you're distracted by the immense amounts of healing that

675
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: you're doing that you're not thinking about.

676
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. But honestly, I probably put him

677
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: through so much craft when I was pregnant that, like, really,

678
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: I was so sick and probably made him do everything,

679
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: and did I probably made him do everything?

680
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: Were you ever snippy?

681
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

682
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

683
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Okay, were you? Were you because hormones and pregnant?

684
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: Right? Well?

685
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: Sure, yes.

686
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: Said this to be pregnant woman over.

687
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: Here, Yes we do, Janna, Well, we all snippy. I

688
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: was very spicy this pregnancy. Yes, you were to you.

689
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm always nice to you.

690
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: What did I say?

691
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 2: Was I snippy somewhere in saying but like you were

692
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: snippy with breast?

693
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: Look at me, you guys?

694
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Kind of so like to ask her if she was.

695
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 6: Like, okay, let me rephrase.

696
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you know some women are like truly miserable pregnant.

697
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 6: You know, well, I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna point both.

698
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Y'all out, but you know how y'all Okay.

699
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: So I didn't get to see you pregnant ever, and

700
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: I wondered if you were like I.

701
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: Would take me as someone that would be like I

702
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: was not necessarily as snippy as I was, just like

703
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: sick and miserable and made him do everything. Okay, And

704
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm really thinking back to my last one the most, obviously.

705
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: So we had two kids, and I was like, take

706
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: these children away from me while I sleep.

707
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: Like, you know, the joke is always about pregnant women,

708
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: like we're so hormonal and we rage out and all

709
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: these things.

710
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I was a rager, No, I just

711
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: felt really really bad. Yeah, And so I felt for

712
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: him because it's like that was a lot on his plate,

713
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: especially if you're having a third I mean that's a lot. Yeah,

714
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: but I probably got a push present. I just don't remember. Sorry,

715
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: I'll i'll ask him later. I don't remember the third one.

716
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: Probably helped him get it for you, probably, Yeah, can

717
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: you get through your text chain? What did you get?

718
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: I got this Tiffany bracelet with three little diamonds for

719
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: three little babies. Oh see, that's cute, sweet and like delicate.

720
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: But you would have been fine just having the gift

721
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: of line. Yeah, I never got I didn't get push presents.

722
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: I was so excited. I'm like, this is what they

723
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: look like. H Yeah. I don't think Allen knows it

724
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: there and he doesn't listen to this podcast. So can

725
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: we talk about Scottish verse versus American on Instagram? Sure?

726
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: Because I'm a host. And then somebody sent me and

727
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: crossed gream and I'm so sorry that there's a sentence

728
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: that literally Scottish people cannot say the purpurple Oh he can,

729
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: he can.

730
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: We did it.

731
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: We did it on my TikTok. Is it purple purple

732
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: burglar alarm? And he can do it, he can. It's

733
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: just the way they say burglar is funny. Oh, like

734
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: it's I can pull it up. I'm gonna pull it

735
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: up on my TikTok. But no burger burger burg But yeah, no,

736
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: it's just it's it's how they say, like the actual

737
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, let me see here.

738
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: That said.

739
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: Scottish people can't say purple burglar alarm. I'm going to

740
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: go test it on the boyfriend. Okay, say that four

741
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: times fast, as fast as you can four times.

742
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: Purple bug let alone, purple bugle it alone alone alone.

743
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: You did it better than I could do.

744
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah. I couldn't say anything four times fast though. Yeah, okay,

745
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: but no, that was funny. I got a good laugh.

746
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Swimming costume, That's what it was. Swimming cost the first

747
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: time he said that because I had heard that one

748
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: obviously before. I see that's like, are you gonna bring

749
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 2: your swimming costume? And I'm like what He's like, you're

750
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: swimming costume? And I'm like, explained, because a costume to

751
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: me is when you dress up in Halloween. So what

752
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: does he think Halloween is?

753
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: Like?

754
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: Does is there are those? Just I've never asked. We

755
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: need to know because it's on your list. It's a

756
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: bathing suit or a swim suit. Yeah, yeah, a swimming

757
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: costume like that was like as if I'm going to

758
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: be Michael Phelps for Halloween. Yeah, it was interesting. I

759
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: really enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. It was all good. Yeah,

760
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: we're gonna do maybe a few more of those because

761
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: they were fun. I love you, But I guess that's it. Yeah,

762
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm good. You know, just breathing over there, just breathing.

763
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: Is he kicking? He's kicking. Oh, he's a soccer player.

764
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: Gousie's a soccer player. So girls, are you gonna say

765
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: something bad to us? No? I do have a question.

766
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: I don't like the look in her eyes. Cat So

767
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: So I had a conversation with someone about coming on

768
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: the podcast. Oh no, and it wouldn't be until October,

769
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: But would you guys want to be on the podcast

770
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: when this person comes on the podcast? I was thinking

771
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: of doing a like part series with it, because obviously

772
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: my book is coming out in October, and he has

773
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: not really shared his side of things, and I think

774
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: when one side comes out, it's important to hear the

775
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: other and then also to maybe, you know, talk about

776
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: how we've been able to move on co parenting, what

777
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: he's up to things like that, and I was thinking

778
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: about it, and because we had the conversation the other

779
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: day when he was driving me back from some things

780
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: I needed to ride with the kids, and he brought

781
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: it up and we just discussed it and I said, OK, right,

782
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: let me just kind of like wrap my mind around this.

783
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I think Mark would for sure

784
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: want to be on and we can maybe have that

785
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: as like a thing where like I ask listeners if

786
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: they have any questions or if they want to know something,

787
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: and Mark can kind of ask those questions and then

788
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: we can do like a Thursday episode of like co parenting,

789
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: and then another one would be with you guys. But

790
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: if you're not comfortable, I wouldn't put you on the spot.

791
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: Then I'm putting you on the spot now because I

792
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: want to know so I can just like because it's

793
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: a lot to like process and plan in my brain too,

794
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I feel that myself. What undecided?

795
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: What did he say? Does he know that there's an

796
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: option of having well aka me in the room? I

797
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: don't know if you.

798
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: Take it, I'll just say he took a really big

799
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: deep breath.

800
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he'd want me in a room.

801
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: With him, so does he want But he didn't say, no, huh,

802
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: what do you want me in a room? Well, I said, well, hey,

803
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: like obviously I do my podcast with Kristen and Catherine,

804
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: so like, you know, maybe like the first one it's

805
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: just like Mark and you and I, and then the

806
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: part two is with the girls, and then the third

807
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: is like you and I again and with just like

808
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: co parenting and like you know what he's doing now

809
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: and you know, support whatever he's kind of going, you

810
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: know what he's doing. And again it's like it's something

811
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: that I know I'm bringing. I'm going to talk to

812
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: my therapy therapist about it because it is still like

813
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: there's still so many, so many layers too to it.

814
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: So it's like to but yeah. But then when I

815
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: was like, well, and you know Kristen and Catherine, it

816
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: could be in the episode two, and he just went

817
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: so he didn't say yes or no, and which then

818
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: to me goes, okay, well let me lego. Let me

819
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: just kind of wrap my mind around this because I

820
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: think it's I see like the pros and cons, and

821
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I see I also think too, you know. He this

822
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: was also his podcast too, and so people listened and

823
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: maybe they want to also have or hear sure something

824
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: from him, you know, or like a because I don't

825
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: think it's let's take anybody that misses Mike. Raise your

826
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: hand now, just saying so, I just would you guys

827
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: be comfortable or do you need time to think about it?

828
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: Because you said you need I would say I need

829
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: a minute, okay, I would like to. I mean I

830
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: have seen him one time since then, I haven't seen

831
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: him as often as probably you have, Kat, I just

832
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: need I would say I need a minute. I feel

833
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: fully like there is a place that you guys exist

834
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: in my brain that I feel really good about. That

835
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: I kind of always saw in YouTube. Do you remember

836
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: me saying to you like, I always thought you guys

837
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 2: would be really good friends or better friends than a couple.

838
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 2: So there's a part of me that sees him that way.

839
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: But then there's just a part of me that makes

840
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: me want to cry a little bit, like just witnessing

841
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: a lot of hurt for someone that I really love

842
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: a lot. So that's hard for me.

843
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: I would do it. I just don't think he would

844
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: sit down with me, And I think that's also hurtful

845
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: and hard for me because I know how much he

846
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: hates me, and that's I know it's not about me,

847
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: but that also there is something there for me.

848
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Also, why do you think and like, I mean, I

849
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: would want to listen to that podcast because I'm sure

850
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: there's many people in that situation where like, and I

851
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: don't want to put you in a situation where you're

852
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: not comfortable, which is why I'm asking ahead of time. Yeah,

853
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: but like if you're not comfortable and you're like, I mean, like,

854
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: I would never put you in that situation. Absolutely having

855
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: said that, as like a listener, I'm sure there's many

856
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: times where friends are like would want to hear the

857
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: like friendship of the person because you were also you

858
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: guys were all also hurt in that situation and for

859
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: you to say, well, he hates me, I don't. Again,

860
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: it's like it was his own hatred. I believe that,

861
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: like it was never like, why do you think he

862
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: hates you?

863
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: I just I think that there's a lot of blame

864
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: he puts on me. I don't know. I think it's again,

865
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: it's not about me. But the times that I've seen him,

866
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I see it in his eyes. He won't speak to me.

867
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: I've kept his child he won't bring her to me.

868
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of reasons. There's been a

869
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: lot of I would love to bury the hatchet with him.

870
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: I would love to be able to see him. I

871
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: would love to be able to tell him the things

872
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: that like, you know, we were friends too, you know,

873
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: and he you know, it's just that got ripped away

874
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: so fast, which is fine. I think we always side

875
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: with our friends. And it was hard, like you said,

876
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: to see her, but like there's probably just hurt on

877
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: both sides obviously, But I would I would welcome that conversation.

878
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he would.

879
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: Do you think that he wouldn't because of the ownership

880
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: it would take for him to sit down with you,

881
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: because I don't know, I don't. Do you think he

882
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: would hate her? Listen, I mean Catherine was always the one,

883
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: and I you know, I wrote this even in the book,

884
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: like you told me to leave many times that I

885
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: would be like, but I never did, you know what

886
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: I mean? So he can't hate you for something that

887
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: like a never hap you know what I mean? And

888
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: only he can't. I think it's just again his own

889
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: actions because he can't look you in the eye knowing

890
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: all the things that you know that no one will

891
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: ever know true, you know, Yeah, that's hard. I think

892
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 2: it's his shame that he can't work you in the eyes. Yeah,

893
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: that's what I'm wondering.

894
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably I know that there's you know, yes

895
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: that like.

896
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying, it might feel good for to him to

897
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: have you say.

898
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: And there was there's things that I mean, I could

899
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I've got things I would love to say to him.

900
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think about it often actually, so I mean, I'm.

901
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 6: That's where I'm at.

902
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: So I don't know what would you say or what's

903
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: one thing that like what like, what do you want

904
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: to say to him?

905
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I cared about him too, and so that doesn't just

906
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: go away. I think that you can care for someone

907
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: and then make the worst actions in the world, But

908
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't make you, know a care, you know, caring

909
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: about someone to go away, and that at the end

910
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: of the day, I in my mind, I wasn't just

911
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: looking out for you, I was also trying to look

912
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: out for him. I felt like y'all were toxic together,

913
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: and that what was so frustrating because it became so

914
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: us against him, and I just want to explain to

915
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: him that it truly wasn't just this I hate Mike.

916
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: It was not It was y'all have to get out

917
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: of this. Y'all are not healthy, and I just don't

918
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I understand why you wouldn't see it that way, but

919
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I would love to be able to explain that to him,

920
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: because he wasn't happy either, you know. So it's like, again,

921
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: I did care about him, It wasn't just like you know,

922
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: so I don't know.

923
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't be until like October, so yeah, you

924
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: have some time to think about it. But I'm also

925
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: like when he mentioned it, it was like, Okay, I

926
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: kind of need time to like process because what I

927
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: don't want to happen is get him on and like

928
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: drudge up, Like I don't want a whole episode of

929
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: like because I'm like we're past that, but there are

930
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: still things that like need to like be flushed out

931
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: and then also you know, but not like stay in that.

932
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 4: You know.

933
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: It's like, let's ask the questions I want. So it's

934
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 2: like I want to be very like mindful of if

935
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: there are any questions from the past, I do want

936
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: to ask that I don't know yet, you know. So

937
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: it's like I need time with that to like process

938
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: and then them like does that even matter? And like

939
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 2: do I want to put that really out? So it's

940
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: like I just need to like process that side too.

941
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: I do think I do think this is a healthy enough,

942
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: mature enough like you and I are healthy enough, mature

943
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: enough to like lead it to a good place. I

944
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: think we've always seen what could be good about him

945
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: and defended him or played Devil's advocate in times not defended. Sure,

946
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: So I don't think it for me, it's not like

947
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: this like flipping tables moment and that's what I'm afraid of.

948
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: It's just I just I don't know. I'm like, I'm

949
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: careful with my words even here. Well, I think that's why,

950
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: like you have to think about what you'd really wan

951
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: want to ask, because again I don't want to spend

952
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: time in the past because I don't think I have

953
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: any questions about that.

954
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I think it really should just be if there's something that.

955
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: Like I have one in the book when I was

956
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: doing the audio and I'm like, I was like, man,

957
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: I always kind of want to know that, you know,

958
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: And I'm just wondering, can I think it's something that

959
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot of divorced women might also still wonder about

960
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: like their X. So it's something that I'm like, I'm

961
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I don't know, I got it. So

962
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: it's like I got to sit with these things. So

963
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: it's like, find what you would want to ask if

964
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: that opportunity comes up.

965
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: And does he have stuff in mind that he wants

966
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: to say or ask? Do you think maybe yeah?

967
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: I think for him, I think he just wants you know, again,

968
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: And with the book coming out, it's like I don't

969
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: want it to be about him. Yes, there are stories

970
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: about him, but I also think, you know, he has

971
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: a right to not be defined by certain headline and

972
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I think it's just creating again

973
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: growth instead of like just turning, you know, letting the

974
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: publications take certain excerpts from the book and then turn

975
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: it into something that it's like this is actually where

976
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: it's at and like, yes, that was a story from

977
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: a while ago, but you know, and turning that into

978
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: a more positive spin. And also, you know how we've

979
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: been able to and not well at you know, not

980
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: well at times a couple of weeks ago, it's just like, yes,

981
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: I just got triggered from our past because you said this,

982
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: and it's like it's that's a that's a full time

983
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: job too, like taking emotions from past triggers with us

984
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: and co parenting the kids and not letting those come up.

985
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: It's hard. So I think how we've you know, talking

986
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: about how we've been able to manage that still young

987
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: and new at it. I'm hoping ten years from now

988
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: it's even light years better, but hopefully that could be good.

989
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: And then you know, he's he's starting, you know, he

990
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: has a business and he's you know, I think I

991
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: will always promote people, especially the you know, father of

992
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: my children that may need help to you know, grow

993
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: his business. So it's like I look at it as

994
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: a way where it's growth on all angles. I think

995
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: it's mature and wonderful to have the conversation I think

996
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: it is when you say it used to you know,

997
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: he used to this used to be his podcast too.

998
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: I think all of that makes a lot of sense.

999
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: I really do. I think it shows the maturity. I

1000
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: I think it's great, just not sure what I I'm

1001
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: just not sure.

1002
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: Where I would be.

1003
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, there's time to think about it. But

1004
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: without being wildly like I get really like, you don't, yeah,

1005
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: mess with my friend, So I don't and I know

1006
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: he's not. Yeah, well there's nothing he can do now,

1007
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: you know. Now it's like that's the.

1008
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: But he did.

1009
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: So that's hard for me still because well, again, I

1010
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: think it shows like how people can like there's so

1011
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: many people that can relate to the situation and like

1012
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 2: and I do think he can be changed. I think

1013
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: he can grow. I think it could be two guys.

1014
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: I was married before, we were not we Some people

1015
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: are just not good for each other or bring out

1016
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: the best in each other. It's like chemical or whatever.

1017
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: That I get it. So we'll take a beat on that.

1018
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to see what the wind down listeners also

1019
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: want to, because again, this is something that they're you know,

1020
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: this is this is for you know all, it's all

1021
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: likes see how we all feel. Okay, let us check

1022
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: everybody's temperature with that, so you guys later, he