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Speaker 1: It's time for the Official Titans Podcast, better known as

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Speaker 1: the OTP. Mike Keith and as always, Amy Wells. Hey Mike,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm a little damp, but good. It

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Speaker 1: rained summit practice today, it sure did. But they got

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Speaker 1: it in outside. The fans got to see the Titans

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks Part two. Yes, here at Saint Thomas

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Speaker 1: Sports Park at Day two of Titans Bucks brought out

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Speaker 1: tons of stars. Oh gosh, it was great. Star Ran

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Speaker 1: day Barber was here, Yes he was. Who's that voice?

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Speaker 1: Charles Davis a Fox Sports and NFL network not a

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Speaker 1: star speaking star. Eddie George was here. Eddie George was here.

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Speaker 1: Gene Deckerhoff, who is the voice of not only the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but the Florida State Seminoles as well. Wow,

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Speaker 1: can you imagine that? And you know what jeans schedules

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Speaker 1: like because you understand, you've you've done similar things in

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Speaker 1: the past. I mean, Gene, essentially parks in Atlanta, I

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Speaker 1: think during the season kind of I've heard he had

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Speaker 1: like a motor home or something, and that's his jump

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Speaker 1: off point all the time. Because Florida State home games

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Speaker 1: get to Atlanta, fly to wherever Tampa is if he

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Speaker 1: has to get there or he can just drive to Tampa.

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Speaker 1: But if it's a road game, you know. I think

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Speaker 1: there was one time, if I heard correctly, they were

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Speaker 1: in Seattle and he had a Florida State night game,

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Speaker 1: and I think Florida State is first. Yes, Florida State

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Speaker 1: is first and then Tampa second. But he had a

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Speaker 1: Florida State night game Seattle game the next day and

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Speaker 1: walked in and sat down thirty minutes before kickoff and

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Speaker 1: did the broadcast for Tampa. He is awesome too. That

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Speaker 1: gives me anxiety just hearing that story. If you meet him,

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Speaker 1: you totally get he's unfazed by about everything, totally. Now.

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Speaker 1: He has this great voice they used to have on

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Speaker 1: their Tampa on the Tampa Bay Buccaneer website, when you

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Speaker 1: would go to certain pages, he would say things, and

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Speaker 1: his sayings would like pop up, and so I found

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Speaker 1: one that I just loved, and so I just kept

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Speaker 1: doing it over and over and over again like I

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Speaker 1: was a four year old child. Fire them cannon. Ye,

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Speaker 1: So they have the pirate ship in the end zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anytime you get inside the twenty yard line, right, do

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Speaker 1: they raise? They raise the jolly Roger, right, fire the cannons,

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Speaker 1: Fire them cannons, Mike, we should do that with your sayings.

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Speaker 1: I don't have anything that interesting. Oh you for sure do. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't think that people would want a cell phone

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Speaker 1: ring or of you yelling sack, No, I don't they would.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, that went off in a meeting. Nearly as

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Speaker 1: interesting as Gene Deckerhoff say. And it went off in

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Speaker 1: the meeting, that person would get a raise. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: or like the middle of church, that would be so good.

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Speaker 1: The minister would be like And that brings me back

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Speaker 1: to the tight the bad thing about the whole church.

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Speaker 1: They just to throw one thing. I'm in church two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago and somebody's phone goes off. Isn't it always

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Speaker 1: somebody over eighty whose phone goes off in church? Oh? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: no clue how to turn it off? Going around, they're

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Speaker 1: And it's always some bad ringer too, Yeah yeah, because

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Speaker 1: remember it's their ringer. And so it happened, and it

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Speaker 1: not gonna say male or female, sweet person, older person. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't yep, it's don't mean the stereotype, but it can't.

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Speaker 1: Can't fire away from the pulpit on No, Nope, it's

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Speaker 1: now we want to blame the young people. Nap that

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Speaker 1: had been that had been you. Yes, you might have

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Speaker 1: got a look from the preacher. Phone stays in the

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Speaker 1: So we got Gene Deckerhoff, we got Annie George, we

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Speaker 1: got Randa Barbera, we got your TV partner for Titans Telecast,

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Speaker 1: Dan Helly and from network. Ye. By the way, did

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Speaker 1: you see their ratings in week one? Heard they were

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Speaker 1: pretty good, the best in years. Our people fired up

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Speaker 1: up and blah blah blah blah. And in the group,

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Speaker 1: another person that will remain nameless said, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something about the show. You do, chimp Red, rubber Ball,

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Speaker 1: same rating. Get over yourself, I know, but you know

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Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great broadcast they do. I

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Speaker 1: Dan and Charles and and Corey Kursey was really well done.

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Speaker 1: What I enjoyed about it, and thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: What I enjoyed about it is when you work with with.

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Speaker 1: You know, Corey's here in the market, understands the team

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Speaker 1: as well as anyone able to get him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna call it seamlessly because that's too much patting ourselves.

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Speaker 1: But to be able to say to Corey, Hey, Corey,

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Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be a three person conversation.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone's got information, everyone's got something, and he's

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Speaker 1: because you know, I've worked with crews before. We're if

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Speaker 1: You got a brought not a hot dog. I did

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin exactly, it's good stuffing like a local. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's talk a little ball here since Charles Davis

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Speaker 1: is on the program. Um, what you think of the

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Speaker 1: thoughts about preseason game number one? Seeing the possibilities? You know,

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Speaker 1: When Lawan and Spain and Jones, you know incline and

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Speaker 1: when Jack Conklin gets back, but Dennis Kelly beforehand, when

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Speaker 1: But then off of it, a little bit of it right.

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Speaker 1: It was Adams, Yes, but Alison had a catch too.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen from time to time. But you guys

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Malcolm Butler even out at practices

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Speaker 1: He gives them an energy and an attitude. And today,

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Speaker 1: I mean Mike Evans pushed him on one and got called.

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Speaker 1: He was covered by Malcolm Butler. The ball was knocked

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Speaker 1: little that tells you that things are going not in

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Speaker 1: from Malcolm Butler. And I will say this, guys, the

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Speaker 1: The goals now are how many times can we take

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Speaker 1: the ball away? And how many empty possessions can we create? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the big one. And if

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Speaker 1: to a field goal. Jayon Brown epitomizes where we are

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Speaker 1: right now, because I think this guy's a takeaway type machine. Interceptions,

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Speaker 1: hawking from the linebacker position. Interesting point, because does Jayon

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Speaker 1: Brown have a place in this game ten years ago?

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Speaker 1: We're just the executors whoever came up with that idea

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00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: and said, let's be able to put it right into

426
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: the game so the player can have something fresh every week.

427
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: That's big, and so that's what we do. So so

428
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: every week once and we start in preseason. We did

429
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: it last week already just got done talk about the Titans,

430
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: and we will take it all the way through the

431
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You do a lot of things, like you're

432
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: all over the place. Is Madden the thing you get

433
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: recognized for the most not really, not yet And and

434
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: and I think I think a big reason is in

435
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: the game. I think Jim and Phil, their faces and

436
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: likenesses were in the game. Brandon and I there's think

437
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: there's one time we pop up, like in the third quarter.

438
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: So it's our voices, but not our faces. And I think,

439
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: as you've learned in our business, people remember the faces

440
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot more than the voices at times. Now Mike

441
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: is different, Mike's well, no, you are. But you're in

442
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: the state. You've been representing Titans for a long time.

443
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: People see you. You're an ambassador in the community, so

444
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: you get recognized more so than your average radio person.

445
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: I get recognized to this day still more for Golf Channel,

446
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: do you really, than I do for a lot of

447
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: other things, for just about anything else. And I did

448
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: my last Golf Channel brought broadcast in two thousand and

449
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: five because I did that show, The Great Goose Nineteenth Hole,

450
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: and we were on air, we were on screen almost all.

451
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: It was a thirty minute show, so twenty two minutes,

452
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes, we were on screen, so people would

453
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: see us all the time. And that's what it was.

454
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: What I called what I call a game on Fox.

455
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: You're on at the open occasionally during the game on

456
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: a half, occasionally during the second half, maybe a close.

457
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. So your path you leave

458
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee, did you go straight to the

459
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: US Olympic Committee? Was that job one after football? No? No, no.

460
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: I went to the SEC Conference, went to the as

461
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: an intern. You worked in the in the SEC office

462
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: in Birmingham, Office of the Commissioners an intern. Then I

463
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: coached football at the University of the Pacific before you

464
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: went to the Olympic Committee. Nineteen eighty nine season. Hugh

465
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Speaker 1: Jackson was our running backs coach and now the coach

466
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns. Walt Harris was our head coach, later

467
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: coached at Stanford and at Pitt. At Pitt and then

468
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: Stanford as the head coach. John Gruden was the tight

469
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: ends coach and my roommate. That must have been interesting. Yeah,

470
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: that was That was a great time I have I've

471
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: always had a good work ethic. I learned what a

472
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Speaker 1: real work ethic was living with John. Yeah, he taught

473
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Speaker 1: me He taught me what a real work ethic was.

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Speaker 1: Some people might call us extreme, but that you know that.

475
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Speaker 1: You think about John, wake up at three seventeen in

476
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Speaker 1: the morning every day. It's real. I can I can

477
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: tell you it's real. I can vouch for it because

478
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: he woke me up many of times. And let's go.

479
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: It's time to go, and I's like, no, I'm not going,

480
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: and I never. He's a motivator, as you might imagine.

481
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Now think about this this nineteen eighty nine and he says,

482
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Speaker 1: let's go, Coach, let's go. And I'm like, you know,

483
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: he'd get that one eye open to look at your

484
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: Clock's say, John, it's three twenty in the morning, because

485
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: come on, coach, get up, let's go. Let's go. I say, John,

486
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Because come on, here's what we're

487
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna get up. We're gonna go for

488
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: a run. Okay, come back here, We're gonna shower. We're

489
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna stop by the little corner market. I'm gonna get

490
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: myself a big thing of coffee. You get whatever it

491
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: is that you drink. I don't know what you drink

492
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: or whatever you want. And then we're gonna go into

493
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: the office, We're gonna get to work, and by the

494
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: time everybody else gets to work, we're there, gonna come

495
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: to work round eight o'clock. By time they get to work,

496
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: we're half day ahead of them. You ad up those

497
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: half days over time, we're way ahead of them. Let's

498
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Speaker 1: go next day. I know I'm out running with him,

499
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: going to the office, the whole deal. So I've seen

500
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: it in evidence. I understand who he is in terms

501
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: of that, and he's way ahead in a lot of ways.

502
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Everybody was saying the game's passed him by, and you

503
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: know where's he been? They want to bet I'll bet you,

504
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: And it's not just because of the work ethic. John

505
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: has stayed abreast of everything. Is John Gruden one of

506
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: the reasons you're not coaching? Seeing how he went at it,

507
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: did that lead you to say, I don't think I

508
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: want to do this. John motivated me to actually want

509
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: to stay in coaching. Okay, I ended up going out

510
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: of coaching for other reasons. End up having a chance

511
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: to do some administrative stuff. That's when I went to

512
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Speaker 1: the Olympic Committee and worked there as the director of

513
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: the Olympic Training Center and then I went to Stanford

514
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: as an assistant a d. Then I went to Disney

515
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: World or Disney's Wide World of Sports. Tell everybody what

516
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: you did, Tell everybody what you did. At Disney. Disney

517
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: decided they were getting into amateur youth sports, and so

518
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Speaker 1: they created a complex. I don't know if you guys

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00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: have ever seen the sports complex at Disney. Oh, absolutely, Okay.

520
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: So when we opened it, there were, you know, the Braves.

521
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: They've signed the deal for the Braves to do spring

522
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: training there. So they put in all the baseball field

523
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: at the Braves we need, including a stadium. It sees

524
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: ten thousand. It's almost always sold out for their preseason game,

525
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: for their exhibition games. We had tennis courts, clay tennis courts.

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00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: We had a track and field complex that's tremendous. We

527
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: had four fields for football, soccer, whatever. We had one

528
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: gymnasium or fieldhouse that you can convert into anything, basketball, volleyball, whatever,

529
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Speaker 1: And that was pretty much it when we first began. Okay,

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00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: so we helped. I helped open it, brought it out

531
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Speaker 1: into the ground. The first thing ever was a baseball

532
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: game the Braves in the Cincinnati Reds first hit Deon

533
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: Sanders first stolen base, Deon Sanders first run scored, Deon

534
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Sanders say first tackle. No, didn't have to hit anybody

535
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: that night, so helped open that up. And then in

536
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: the course of that disney at that time also hosted

537
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: a PGA Tour golf tournament. And when I was at Stanford,

538
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: the golf course and all of its operations reported to me,

539
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: and I didn't know the first thing about any of it,

540
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: so I had to learn along the way. And then

541
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: the person who ran the golf tournament disney left. They

542
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: tried desperately to get someone with golf experience and they couldn't,

543
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: and as a last resort they gave me the job.

544
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: So I became the first black tournament director in PGA

545
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Tour history. And the first year I was in charge

546
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: of the tournament, John Houston beat Davis Loved the third

547
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: by one shot, and the second year, Ernie Els and

548
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods tied when they made the turn at nine

549
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: and dueled down the backstretch and an Ernie threw one

550
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: into water on sixteen and Tiger wins by a stroke.

551
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: So the first time PGA Tour history a black tournament

552
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: director hands a check to a black winner, that's special

553
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: and it was, and to me it was extremely special.

554
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Not you know, I can hear people, Nah, you gotta understand.

555
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean that sport, sure, yeah, you know, and breaking

556
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: another chain and being a part of that, it was

557
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: a really special deal. But to just show you the

558
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: difference in all of it, this was nineteen ninety nine,

559
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: I believe. And I handed Tiger the check. It was

560
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: for five hundred and forty thousand dollars was the winner's share,

561
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: and he never looked at and just said, oh thanks

562
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: and put it in his pocket. And I'm like, that's

563
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: five hundred and forty thousand dollars. You put it in

564
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: your pocket like that, It's like you hand him a

565
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. It was. It was like, oh my god,

566
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: what have I gotten into here? Is that how you

567
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: got to Golf Channel? And yeah, that was how I

568
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: got to Golf Channel. They one day they were doing

569
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: a show and the person that they thought they had

570
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. And I got a like this distress call,

571
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: like hey, your tournament director, we need that perspective. Can

572
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: you come over? And Golf Channels located in Orlando, so

573
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: I rolled over there and did it, and after the

574
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: show one of the producers said, you know, we're no

575
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: that we only bring guys like you on like once,

576
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: but we'd like to have you come back. And that

577
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: started it, and then the show The Great Goose nineteenth

578
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: Hole got created, myself Steve Dumick, the Big Dog because

579
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: remember what was the show, um, Big Big, not Big Break?

580
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: What's called? Oh I remember the show? Yeah? Yeah, it

581
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: was a show show where all these golfers got their

582
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: chance to get on, you know, get get into a

583
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Speaker 1: tournament and what have you? Big Break I think it was.

584
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: I think it was Big Break, sponsor name and Big Break.

585
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: And he was the dominant personality of it of the

586
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Speaker 1: first series, first show season, and so they brought him

587
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Speaker 1: in and brought me in and he was the rusty

588
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: guy and I was supposed to be the nice guy,

589
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: I guess. And Kelly Tillman and Vince Cellini often hosted it,

590
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: and remember Dave Marr would host you Big Great Guy,

591
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: and and did that for five years. And see, that's

592
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: the funny thing is Amy, he's just like you. Went

593
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: to college of course, played ball, was to be a broadcaster,

594
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: and then it took him forever to get into broadcasting

595
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: like you did here. You came here having majored in broadcasting.

596
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: But I had to you know, you took work too.

597
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: She took a route around. We had to do real

598
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: jobs first. She took a route around. You really took

599
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: a route around. And look how it's turned out. Because

600
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: I left Tennessee in eighty six with my undergrad degree,

601
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: and then I got my graduate degree when I was

602
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: coaching at Pacific. I came back to Tennessee in the summer.

603
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: We had like a three week break, and I came

604
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: back and took my test for my master's degree and

605
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: got it done in eighty nine. And my first broadcast

606
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety seven. Wow, And that was a total

607
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: fluke because that was just somebody called out of the

608
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: blue and said I and we need someone for a game.

609
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: And do you remember Mark Whitworth. Of course with the NTC.

610
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: Mark Mark worked in sports information department at Tennessee, and

611
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: he had told someone at Fox South that he thought

612
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: I could do a good job as an as an

613
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: analyst and they were like, okay, fine, And the person

614
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: had my name for over two years and then was

615
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: jammed for an announce jammed eight days before the game

616
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: had no one and it was Memphis State at Mississippi State,

617
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: and they were still Memphis State. Jackie Jackie Cheryl. You

618
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: remember the name key for McGee, the running back he

619
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: had him. He had drowned that summer, yes, in an accident,

620
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: and so that was the first game they were going

621
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: to play without Key for McGee, and they had his

622
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: number twenty one painted on the field and it was

623
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: an emotional day and Memphis State came and played them

624
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: off their feet, and then Mississippi State kicked the field

625
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: goal at the buzz or and beat him. As the

626
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: first game I ever did, and I was I got

627
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the call eight days before that game, and you often

628
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: wonder what if that had been one way or the other.

629
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I sixty two to seven games where the broadcaster doesn't

630
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: really matter at that point, but instead you got to

631
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: do a good game. You got a good taste of it.

632
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: Somebody heard you had said, he I got lucky, I

633
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: got I got I got really lucky. And the craziest

634
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: part about that day was games over Starkville. Mississippi can't

635
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: fly out, you know, limited number of flights now, so

636
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: I have to stay over and go out of Golden

637
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: Triangle Airport, Triangle Airport, and I after got the next day,

638
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: so I'm back at the hotel and next thing, you know,

639
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: CNN car accident in France. Princess died. And then I'm

640
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: up all night because the news that because it was

641
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: an instant, you know, and in fact, the first reports

642
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: were doesn't seem to be that serious, huh. I remember

643
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I heard it on the I was working a ballgame

644
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: and driving back from the stadium. It was August thirty first,

645
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: August thirty first, nineteen ninety seven. It's my birthday, Happy birthday. Well,

646
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Sorry, sorry, sorry to don't want to

647
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: know what birthday it was. Yeah, no, I don't know.

648
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: That was really yeah, that already old that when I

649
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: was up all night that night with with with the news.

650
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: But I remember it doesn't appear to be and then

651
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: we're trying to find in the next thing, you know,

652
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: they announced that she had passed away. That was crazy.

653
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: That's my first one, and off we went. We are

654
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: so thrilled that you and Dan are working these games

655
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: for the Titan We are to believe. And what's really

656
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: nice is now is this three or four? Yeah, it's

657
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: three years and so our fans have had a chance

658
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: to say, hey, these are our guys, they're national guys,

659
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: they're working our game. And your relationship to the state.

660
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: Everybody knows you played at the University of Tennessee. I

661
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: think it's really as the organization has tried to do

662
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: different things to be more first class, more exciting. This

663
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: has been something really really exciting, and I know for

664
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: you it's been more than just a job. It really has.

665
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: It's been phenomenal for all the reasons that you stated

666
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: this organization has treated I won't speak for Dan because

667
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: that's improper to do, but I have a feeling he'd

668
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: co sign on it. They've treated us so well. I mean,

669
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the term first class. Everything has been

670
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: first class. You know, the way people treat you, making

671
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: sure that everything is taken care of in terms of

672
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, where you have to be, accommodations, you know,

673
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: the information you need to prepare for a game, getting

674
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: to meet the you know, the coaches and the staff, players,

675
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: if you need, all of it that goes into it

676
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: has has trickled down right from the top. You know,

677
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: this is Strunk, missus Adams Strunk. Her message is clear

678
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: and it goes down through everyone. Now you have to

679
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: understand it took a long time before I met her,

680
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: so everyone I met along the way. I know Mike

681
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: since college, so that was a great introduction. But along

682
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: the way everyone was the same in terms of how

683
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: it went. Now, this is our second, well third coaching staff, right,

684
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: essentially third coaching staff, you know, from from Ken wizzen

685
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Hunt to Mike mclarkey to hear but all of them

686
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: treated us well. So when you add it all together,

687
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Dan being a Tennessee grad, myself being a Tennessee grad,

688
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: I was born in this state. My mother's family still

689
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: in this state. You know, this was elizabeth and Tennessee. Guy,

690
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: you're still the most famous broadcaster from Elizabethton. Yeah, that

691
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: the most famous player because went and went and win.

692
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Hadn't done a game yet. He's about to be. He's

693
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: about too, so you know it's gonna be a little

694
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: dicey here coming up. But yeah, and in his Carter County,

695
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: Carter County Hospital. I was born in the old Carter

696
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: County Hospital. He was born in the new Carter County Hospital.

697
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: It's not even a competition. That was pretty famous though

698
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: kind of fame. You know it's interesting. I'll leave it

699
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: with this. In Elizabeth, in Tennessee, Jason's grandfather's You guys know,

700
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: coach Ryder was the coach, like every every time, that

701
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: was our coach and what have you. I would have

702
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: just missed if we had stayed in Elizabeth, I would

703
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: have just missed playing for him because it would have

704
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: been a previous administration before he came in. And for

705
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: years I'd always thought, go if we say, I would

706
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: have played for Rider. And I said that to my

707
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: father and he said, no, actually, you wouldn't have. I said,

708
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: really said no, he came in after and you would

709
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: not have played for the previous guy. I said, what

710
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: do you mean I wouldn't have played for the previous guy?

711
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: And he said, well, my dad coached at the Black

712
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: School and Elizabeth, Elizabeth and Douglas and had a tremendous

713
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: record football, basketball, whole deal. This is just like remember

714
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: the Titans they integrated. My dad's supposed to be the assistant,

715
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: one of the assistants on the staff. He goes over

716
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: to meet with the guy. The guy says, well, coach,

717
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: you've done a great job and know all about you

718
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: and respect heck, Addy and can't wait to have your

719
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: your players here, but we just don't have any room

720
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: for you on the staff. I'm so sorry, We've already

721
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: made some promises. Blah bla blah blah, so on and

722
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: so forth. My dad just took him at his word

723
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: and walked away. And next day he hired another person

724
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: who happened to be white. So my dad said, because

725
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I said, well, if we stay in Elizabeth, I would play,

726
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: he goes, Now, if we stay in Elizabeth, you would

727
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: have played somewhere else because because of what that man did.

728
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: And you know, when I learned that story last year,

729
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the first time i'd heard it. Really, that story happened

730
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, and my dad just now telling

731
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: me this story, I'd never heard it before. That's unbelieving

732
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: and unbelievable. It was just like remember the Titans. It's

733
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: totally like remember that. It sounds like you gotta be kid.

734
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, you wouldn't have played for him, No,

735
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: we would have taken you somewhere else. About that, but

736
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: it was not Coach Ryder. Coach Rider came in after that.

737
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: I had some deja vous earlier today, because it's August.

738
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: The sixteenth, forty one years ago. Today, playing baseball in

739
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: my front yard with a buddy of mine. His mother

740
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: comes running across the street crying hysterically. Elvis Presley has died, oh,

741
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven. Yes, yes, and they were from Memphis

742
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: and to people from Memphis, Tennessee. Elvis Presley, I mean,

743
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't just the king of rock and roll. He

744
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: was all about Memphis. They were so proud of him.

745
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: He was almost, I don't want to say, a godlike figure,

746
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: but but way up there. Yes, right. And so then

747
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: today we lose Aretha Franklin, I know, how about that,

748
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: the queen of soul and um, on the same day

749
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: we've lost Elvis Presley. But there's an irony in this

750
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: from a different sense, of course. Elvis Presley is thought

751
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: to be Memphis, Tennessee. Right, it's actually two I've been

752
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: to the one room house where he was born. Into

753
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: the room where we're broadcasting today is bigger than what

754
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: that house was. Wow. Aretha Franklin is thought to be Detroit, Michigan. Amy,

755
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, I love Motown, and I mean it hit

756
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: me this morning when I saw the text. I just,

757
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, respect and you know just everything. She is

758
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: originally from Memphis, Tennessee, really so in a great Tennessee

759
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: and we lose today. And one another thing, Motown for

760
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Wreatha Franklin right, Yes, that sound, the motown sound. Elvis Presley,

761
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: king of rock and roll. But what were both of

762
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: their roots? Gospel in the church. Her father, her father

763
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: was a famous pastor, and Elvis Presley learned to sing

764
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: the same way, the same way. I mean, it's just

765
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's the same time frame. It's unbelievable,

766
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: the same day. Wow, that just gave me a little

767
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: bit of a chill. You told an interesting story, and

768
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, we'll probably cut this out, but

769
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: we won't. I just I just remember, I remember when

770
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Elvis passed, and I mean, they broke into the newscast,

771
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, they broken with your your local TV show

772
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: or what have you to bring you the news. And

773
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: that was how it was done back then. You know,

774
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: when President Kennedy was shot, they broke into your local

775
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: broadcasting and they did the same thing with Elvis. And

776
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: then the funeral was massive, unbelievable with all those white horses,

777
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, the white cars and hearses and wall, you know,

778
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: in fact, they had to remember, they had to move

779
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: his body. They actually buried him in a cemetery, and

780
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: they were worried about people. You know, he was there

781
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: and they had a crypt in Memphis, and they were like, oh,

782
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: this is not buried with his twin brother and Jesse Aaron.

783
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: And so they ended up bringing him back and had

784
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: to you know, petition the state, which I'm sure it

785
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: passed through quite quickly, and they buried him in the

786
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: grounds of Graceland. And so his mother's there, father's there,

787
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: he's there, his twin brother Jesse's there, and they're all

788
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: all buried there. I've been to Graceland numerous times like that.

789
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: You remember the Liberty Bowl eighty six. Yes, we went

790
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty one to fourteen over Minnesota, Minnesota whose whose coach

791
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: was John Gudkins, whose son, Brian Gudecans is now the

792
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: GM of the Green Bay Back. That's exactly right, who

793
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: we saw last week, that's right. And so we go

794
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: rolling in and we're gonna play in Memphis in the

795
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: whole deal. And I'll never forget. We're rolling and newspaper

796
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: reporter I forgot who it might have been. Sydney mcconky,

797
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: who was our beat reporter, Late great Sandy mcconcky, one

798
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: of the great one of the first great female sportswriters

799
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: skin this in this country. In fact, the locker room

800
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: rules changed for because she wasn't permitted in the locker room.

801
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: She went to USA today and it was a big

802
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: deal and she was one of my heroes, and so

803
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: we changed. We had to change the locker room policy

804
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: to where no one could be in locker room. You

805
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: had to go to a podium. But anyway, that was

806
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: for that was the smart play, It was the right play.

807
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: But she I think she interviewed in my teammate Tim Hendricks.

808
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: She said she was asking, Alms, what are you excited

809
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: about doing in Memphisy excited about going to Graceland or whatever?

810
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: And Tim said, I don't know what's so excited about

811
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: seeing some dead man's house? And that got printed right

812
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: I got into the newspaper and I was like, oh, no,

813
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: do you know where we're going? And we're taking the

814
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: bus to Graceland. And I had told all the guys

815
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: and so when we got on the bus and sat down,

816
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: I kind of gave her by a signal we all

817
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: moved and left Tim sitting by himself because I said,

818
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: I said, if something's gonna go down going to Graceland,

819
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be near you. And to this day

820
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: I tease him about the whole thing. Texas to Soto, Texas.

821
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: So we took the tour, and we took the tour

822
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: at Gracel. Back then it was a true docent given

823
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: you the tour and what have you. And we were

824
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: young and stupid, and you know, we'd heard all the

825
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: stories about how Elvis really died and what have you

826
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: that by time we were done with that too. She

827
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: could not wait for us to be done. But the best,

828
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: the best picture that I saw on the tour is

829
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: the greatest irony ever because you remember Elvis had the

830
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: drug issues. Yes, my boy, right, doctor Nick, doctor that

831
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: was a Nicopolis, yes, Nicodopolis or whatever doctor Nick was.

832
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: He was doctor feel good. He took care of Elvis.

833
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: And there's a picture in you know, on the tour

834
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: of the King with President Richard Nixon in the Oval

835
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Office to Kings in full cape, the whole deal looking

836
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: a little out of it, little ragged lord ragging shaking

837
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: hands with the presid United States who was awarding him

838
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: an honorary d E a drug enforcement Drug enforcement agency remembers,

839
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: not members. You're like, maybe made him badge and the

840
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: whole deal. And the best part was remember the Memphis

841
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Mafia his bodyguard in Sunny Sunny West, the whole deal.

842
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: You know, they all grew up with Tim McCarver, the

843
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: great baseball announcer. Those were his boys. It was in

844
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: the book. It was in in Red's book, and Tim

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Speaker 1: McCarver corroborated it for me later. Elvis was carrying in

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Speaker 1: the Oval office. Stop it. They never frist him because

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Speaker 1: he was Elvis Presley. I mean, this is right there,

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Speaker 1: Elvis is shaking hands with the pres and he's packing.

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Speaker 1: You see why this guy's good at his job. That's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: How great is that right there? You see why he's

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Speaker 1: Secret Service is like this. This is why every play

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Speaker 1: in America, wants to work with Charles because this but

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Speaker 1: it's just podcast, Jeff about an hour and forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Because I won't shut up and quit talking. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. It's just much fun. Just

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just fun to just talk ball to.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a lot of topics. It's so much fun

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Speaker 1: to be with you guys all the time. You guys

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Speaker 1: are terrific, And thanks as always for treating me, Dan,

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Speaker 1: the rest of us with such class and you know,

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Speaker 1: just for not just professionalism, but you guys are just

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Speaker 1: wonderful to us. And that's because you guys are wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, And you know it's true. You know, I

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Speaker 1: know it sounds kind of sappy, but trust me on this.

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Speaker 1: It's not like this everywhere. It's really not. And I

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Speaker 1: think we all know that some places do it better

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Speaker 1: than others. This place does it as well as as

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Speaker 1: it's done in the league. Well, we love having you

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Speaker 1: guys are around you, of course, and you've been very

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Speaker 1: helpful for us and Dan helly as well. We love

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Speaker 1: having another there's a lot of them around here. I'll interesting,

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Speaker 1: is there are problem for Jeff Harding, for Charles Davis

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Speaker 1: and for Amy Wells who seems to have some issue

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, we'll talk about that off air. Little

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Speaker 1: But this is the OTP