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Speaker 6: Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Here we are on board
Speaker 6: Air Force one. We're headed to China. These meetings are
Speaker 6: very critical. I mean, my first question, do you view
Speaker 6: China as our top geopolitical foe?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's both our top political challenge geopolitically, and it's
Speaker 7: also the most important relationship for us to manage. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's a big, powerful country, it's going to continue to grow,
Speaker 7: but we're going to have interests of ours that are
Speaker 7: going to be in conflict with interests of theirs, and
Speaker 7: to avoid wars and maintain peace and stability in the world,
Speaker 7: we're going to have to manage those. They're clearly areas
Speaker 7: where they're so important for the United States that you
Speaker 7: we're going to have to raise those issues and we'll
Speaker 7: continue to do so. The President's going to continue to
Speaker 7: do so. There might be some areas of cooperation too,
Speaker 7: and we want to make sure we don't walk away
Speaker 7: from those.
Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting the one thing the President always says,
Speaker 6: he's America first. He understands President Chies is going to
Speaker 6: be China first. Putin will be Russia first. I think
Speaker 6: having that understanding is a little bit unique and historically
Speaker 6: speaking as if we should be surprised that they put
Speaker 6: their country of ours.
Speaker 7: Actually, foreign policy and national security matters work best when
Speaker 7: you understand that point. Every country should do what's in
Speaker 7: the best interest of their country, and then where there
Speaker 7: are areas of alignment, where what's in our best interest
Speaker 7: and their best interests are aligned, that's where you have cooperation.
Speaker 7: That's where you have alliances. That's where you have strong
Speaker 7: bonds of friendship. When there's conflict, that's between what they
Speaker 7: want and what we want, that's where the work of
Speaker 7: diplomacy and these personal.
Speaker 1: Relationships between the leaders are so critical.
Speaker 7: And there are times when some of those issue of
Speaker 7: conflict are irreconcilable. I think Iran is an example of that.
Speaker 7: Their clerical regime wants to have a nuclear weapon and
Speaker 7: the world, led by President Trump, says that's completely impossible,
Speaker 7: cannot happen. So unfortunately, there's some areas like that where
Speaker 7: it comes up. But there are areas where if we
Speaker 7: can find areas of commonality, that's very powerful and important.
Speaker 7: But we will have to manage these bilateral differences because
Speaker 7: they're very significant. And when it's two big, powerful countries,
Speaker 7: you know that falling apart at have tremendous significance on
Speaker 7: the global economy and on global peace.
Speaker 6: Want to get back to Iran in a second, let
Speaker 6: me stay out in China, trade tariffs, intellectual property, theft Taiwan.
Speaker 6: Their help of Iran, I think is part of it.
Speaker 8: Also.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all those topics will come up, there's no doubt
Speaker 7: about it. In the case of the Indo Pacific, Taiwan,
Speaker 7: and so forth. It's not in China's interest or anyone's
Speaker 7: interests for there to be any sort of force change
Speaker 7: in the status quo.
Speaker 1: I think stability there is very important.
Speaker 7: We've made clear to them, you know that any support
Speaker 7: for Iran would obviously be detrimental for our relationship. That
Speaker 7: obviously is going to come up in this conversation on trade. Look,
Speaker 7: the United States is very clear we have to be
Speaker 7: able to make our own stuff. We cannot depend on
Speaker 7: China or any country for that matter, for one hundred
Speaker 7: percent of anything that we need. You know, when you
Speaker 7: depend on any other country for one hundred percent of
Speaker 7: what you need, you're very vulnerable. Likewise, you know, China
Speaker 7: wants to they want China wants the world to be
Speaker 7: dependent on them for one hundred percent because it gives.
Speaker 1: Them strength and leverage.
Speaker 7: So that's a perfect example of an area in which
Speaker 7: our interests are not aligned. But the President's very committed
Speaker 7: to bringing back factories, bringing back industrial capacity to the.
Speaker 1: United States, and diversifying.
Speaker 7: Where we get our rare earth, our critical minerals, our
Speaker 7: supply chains.
Speaker 6: You know, President Trump has described President she to me
Speaker 6: in interviews as stoic, all business, no niceties in that sense,
Speaker 6: although there will be a state dinner. Now I know
Speaker 6: this is your first trip to China, but not.
Speaker 1: Your person go around with China. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, look, their system is very disciplined, it's very focused.
Speaker 7: When you speak to them, they have an agenda, They
Speaker 7: go through that agenda. The president's style is quite different.
Speaker 7: But they seem to have a very good at least
Speaker 7: the interpersonal relationship, and that's important.
Speaker 1: Look that the differences.
Speaker 7: Between the countries remain, but the ability to manage it
Speaker 7: becomes not easy, but easier when the heads of state
Speaker 7: have a good working relationship and they seem to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think so too. What would you say,
Speaker 6: what is your read on President Chi?
Speaker 1: I mean you read that.
Speaker 6: Their economy is struggling. You read that he's isolated. You
Speaker 6: read both Putin and President She have a pretty high
Speaker 6: degree of paranoia. What is your read as you look
Speaker 6: at President She from a distance going into the meeting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think my read has been what I think
Speaker 7: has been for a while, and that is China has
Speaker 7: a plan.
Speaker 1: I mean, they.
Speaker 7: Clearly view themselves. They believe they will be the world's
Speaker 7: most powerful country. They'll sur pass the United States, and
Speaker 7: they have a plan to do it, and they're executing
Speaker 7: on that plan, and I don't blame them. If I
Speaker 7: were the Chinese government, I'd have the same plan. We,
Speaker 7: on the other hand, don't view it that way, and
Speaker 7: we don't want to see anything that We're not trying
Speaker 7: to constrain China. But their rise cannot come at our expense.
Speaker 7: Their rise cannot come at our fall. So there's an
Speaker 7: area where we're just going to have a difference of opinion.
Speaker 7: But my view of them and of the government in
Speaker 7: China as they're very confident.
Speaker 1: They have a.
Speaker 7: Plan and they're trying to execute on that plan, which
Speaker 7: is fine. I understand that from a nation state perspective,
Speaker 7: but where that plan is in conflict with the national
Speaker 7: interest in the United States, we need to do what's
Speaker 7: right for the United States, and that'll come up on
Speaker 7: this trip, but more importantly, that'll be a feature of
Speaker 7: this relationship for a long time.
Speaker 6: If you had it's kind of hard, it's not a
Speaker 6: fair question to ask, but if you had a goal
Speaker 6: coming out of this summit, because this is a big
Speaker 6: deal that you're going that the President is going, the
Speaker 6: Secretary of Defenses on this plan and so many others,
Speaker 6: and every top business leader in America is going on
Speaker 6: this trip.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 6: If you had a goal what you would like, you
Speaker 6: would say it would be. How would you define a
Speaker 6: successful trip?
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's already a success because we're going
Speaker 7: and we're going to be able to talk to them
Speaker 7: as opposed to at them. You know, one thing is
Speaker 7: to exchange phone calls, and another thing is to put
Speaker 7: out messages and press releases and statements. But when the
Speaker 7: leaders are actually engaging personally, not just the president the president,
Speaker 7: but me with their foreign minister, and Pete Hegseth with
Speaker 7: their defense minister and so forth, it creates channels of
Speaker 7: communication that can prove valuable in a time of potential
Speaker 7: conflict or whether there might be heightened tension.
Speaker 1: So that's important.
Speaker 7: I also think, and we're not prepared to announce this yet,
Speaker 7: but there are a couple of unique areas of cooperation
Speaker 7: that we can work together on. The obvious ones are
Speaker 7: obviously fentanyl precursor production, which China, because their system can
Speaker 7: do this, can really crack down on that that would
Speaker 7: help lower fentanyl deaths in the United States. And there
Speaker 7: are a couple other areas of international relations where perhaps
Speaker 7: we intend to talk to them about discreetly, we're not
Speaker 7: going to announce it in the media, but areas that
Speaker 7: we both share some concern over.
Speaker 6: I have a friend of mine, it's a great inventor,
Speaker 6: and the level of intellectual property theft not just impacted
Speaker 6: its entire business, but it's impacting many American companies.
Speaker 7: Big issue, that's right, an enormous issue, and one that
Speaker 7: we're going to continue to raise. Even as we try
Speaker 7: to protect our companies and our competitive advantage. We're going
Speaker 7: to raise that with them. I don't think there's any
Speaker 7: point in denying that. The fact of the matter is
Speaker 7: that a lot of the advancements, not all, but a
Speaker 7: lot of the advancements you've seen in the commercial sector,
Speaker 7: in the industrial sector, and the technological sector in China
Speaker 7: is a intellectual a product of intellectual property theft and
Speaker 7: or reverse engineering, which is the same thing of our
Speaker 7: own technology. So that has to be addressed. But I
Speaker 7: also think we can't only rely on that. We have
Speaker 7: to stay ahead of the curve on innovation. You know,
Speaker 7: one thing is if you're you're stealing or taking the
Speaker 7: stuff that was cutting edge five years ago, but the
Speaker 7: things that are going to be cutting edge five years
Speaker 7: from now, we've got to continue to invest and push
Speaker 7: our companies to continue to stay ahead of the of
Speaker 7: that pace off and continue to lead the world in innovation.
Speaker 6: Maybe the best way to transition to the issue of Iran,
Speaker 6: which I want to ask you about, is that China's
Speaker 6: both public statements and their actions. Although it was interesting
Speaker 6: that an I that a Chinese tanker got hit in
Speaker 6: the straight over moves, but obviously they've been taking a
Speaker 6: very different position.
Speaker 1: You keep reading the.
Speaker 6: Intelligence is showing they've been helping the Iranians. Obviously it's
Speaker 6: more important to them that We've.
Speaker 7: Made the argument to the Chinese, and I hope it's
Speaker 7: compelling and they'll have a chance to do something about
Speaker 7: it at the United Nations later this week when there's
Speaker 7: a resolution just condemning Iran on what they're doing with
Speaker 7: the streets. Look, there's three things. The Chinese have ship
Speaker 7: stuck in the Persian Gulf because setting up a system
Speaker 7: that says we're going to let certain ships through but
Speaker 7: others not, it's easier said than done. And you saw
Speaker 7: a Chinese not Chinese flag vessel, but it was a
Speaker 7: Chinese cargo got hit over the weekend. I'm sure Iron
Speaker 7: didn't do it deliberately, but they did it. It happened,
Speaker 7: and so that's why these Chinese ships are stuck in there.
Speaker 7: The second is I don't think that that China. It's
Speaker 7: a huge source of instability. It threatens to destabilize Asia
Speaker 7: more than any other part of the world because it's
Speaker 7: heavily reliant on the Straits for energy.
Speaker 1: And the third.
Speaker 7: Reason is because China's economy is export driven, meaning their
Speaker 7: economy is fueled not by what they consume domestically, but
Speaker 7: by what they make and sell to other countries.
Speaker 1: Well, if all the countries of.
Speaker 7: The world economies are melting down because of this crisis
Speaker 7: in the Straits, they're going to be buying less Chinese product,
Speaker 7: and the Chinese exports are going to drop precipitously.
Speaker 1: So it's in their interest to resolve this.
Speaker 7: We hope to convince them to play a more active
Speaker 7: role in getting around to walk away from what.
Speaker 1: They're doing now and trying to do now in the
Speaker 1: Persian Gulf.
Speaker 6: You know, I thought you had a lot of jobs
Speaker 6: by being the Secretary of State and the NSA you
Speaker 6: know of the NSA, then you have to go in
Speaker 6: and become White House Press Secretary.
Speaker 7: No, no's hairline is irreplaceable.
Speaker 1: I was just a pitching. It seemed that you like it.
Speaker 6: It seemed like you have in.
Speaker 1: Five Well, yeah, I don't know. I'd have fun if
Speaker 1: I had to do it every week.
Speaker 7: But one timing too bad and I enjoyed it, you know,
Speaker 7: And it was it was about foreign policy mostly, so
Speaker 7: I was honored to be able to do it. But
Speaker 7: we can't wait till Caroline gets back to a beautiful baby,
Speaker 7: and we wish her the best, but we can't wait
Speaker 7: to see her that she was beautiful.
Speaker 6: But now that we are on the issue of Iran,
Speaker 6: let me specifically ask you because it seems like there
Speaker 6: are two major issues that just continue to percolate. And
Speaker 6: I had a conversation with the president of private conversation
Speaker 6: and I did ask him if I could talk about it,
Speaker 6: and it was, you know, I asked him maybe a
Speaker 6: week ago, I said, you know, are you going to
Speaker 6: go back to bombing?
Speaker 1: He said, I said, you could.
Speaker 6: Probably wipe out their economy in fifteen minutes. He goes, No, Sean,
Speaker 6: I could knock it out in five, he goes, But
Speaker 6: then he said something, and you references in your present
Speaker 6: when you were filling in for Caroline, and you said,
Speaker 6: imagine world with a nuclear on Duran, and forget about
Speaker 6: the Strait. They would hold the entire world house.
Speaker 1: That's right there. Always seems to have come out of.
Speaker 6: Nowhere, these bizarre conspiracy theories, Oh the president is doing
Speaker 6: this for Israel, or or Fox News hosts or bb Nennaho.
Speaker 6: That I ask everybody, did he have any choice based
Speaker 6: on what Steve Wikoff told us?
Speaker 7: Now, look, every president in the last twenty years has
Speaker 7: been worried about the Iran nuclear program. Obama did a
Speaker 7: nuclear deal with him because he was worried about it.
Speaker 1: Not a good nuclear deal, but he made one.
Speaker 7: The President reversed it and imposed crippling sanctions and took.
Speaker 1: Out Solomani, who was a threat to the United States.
Speaker 7: Joe Biden was begging to get back into a nuclear
Speaker 7: deal with him. The whole world, you know, the French,
Speaker 7: the Germans, the UK. They imposed new sanctions on Iran
Speaker 7: last year, snapback sanctions because of the nuclear threat. The
Speaker 7: whole world to see, Iran was building up a conventional
Speaker 7: capability where they would have so many missiles and so
Speaker 7: many drones that they could overwhelm anybody's defenses.
Speaker 1: Once they had that.
Speaker 7: Nobody could do anything about their nuclear program because they
Speaker 7: would say, if you attack our nuclear program, we will
Speaker 7: wipe out six countries in the Gulf region and you
Speaker 7: won't be able to defend against it. You won't have
Speaker 7: enough patriots, you know, because you get these swarms of drones,
Speaker 7: these swarms of rockets. They were on the verge in
Speaker 7: a year from now, they would have been at that point.
Speaker 7: The President said, that's an intolerable risk. People are struggling
Speaker 7: to make that connection, but the connection is very real.
Speaker 7: They were building a such a high number. They were
Speaker 7: going to have so many drones and missiles that no
Speaker 7: one could attack Iron because the result would be catastrophic
Speaker 7: for the region. And once they had that immunity, then
Speaker 7: they would break out towards a weapon. We knew that
Speaker 7: the President is not going to allow that to happen
Speaker 7: under his watch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go to the Western hemisphere, and what is
Speaker 6: the relationship with Venezuela. And I know it's got to
Speaker 6: be an issue near and dear to your heart. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I know your family background and that's Cuba.
Speaker 7: Well on Venezuela, it's been four months, so I think
Speaker 7: we made some steady progress on improving venue. But look,
Speaker 7: we're trying to normalize that place. This was a place
Speaker 7: where a country of incredible wealth, but all the wealth
Speaker 7: was being stolen. It wasn't going to benefit to Venezuelan people.
Speaker 7: So we've created mechanisms. You know, all the money that
Speaker 7: make on oil now goes into a bank account in
Speaker 7: New York and it's audited by KPMG, and it's being
Speaker 7: used to pay the salaries of teachers and firefighters and
Speaker 7: police officers and university professors.
Speaker 1: So for the first time.
Speaker 7: In over a decade, the wealth of the country is
Speaker 7: actually benefiting the people of Venezuela.
Speaker 1: But there's more work to be done.
Speaker 7: Ultimately, as we work through this process, we won't have
Speaker 7: to reach a stage of transition where you're gonna have
Speaker 7: to normalize your government. There's gonna have to be, you know,
Speaker 7: a process it's legitimate that people look at and say
Speaker 7: this is this is a legitimate permanent government, presidency, elections
Speaker 7: and things of that nature. That moment has to arrive,
Speaker 7: but it has to be We don't want to wait
Speaker 7: too long. We want to see it happen, but you
Speaker 7: don't want to move too fast either, because the whole
Speaker 7: thing can break. So it's it's a difficult thing to manage.
Speaker 7: But it's only four months in and I'm very I
Speaker 7: think we should be pleased. Venezuela is a better place
Speaker 7: today than it was four months ago, but it needs
Speaker 7: to continue to stay on that path. In the case
Speaker 7: of Cuba is a very different situation.
Speaker 1: There is no economy in Cuba.
Speaker 7: To the extent there's any wealth in Cuba, it doesn't
Speaker 7: go it doesn't forget about, it doesn't go to the people.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even go to the government.
Speaker 7: The wealth is controlled by a private by a company
Speaker 7: owned by military generals.
Speaker 1: They take all the money. They're sitting on billions of dollars.
Speaker 7: Okay, this is a country where people are literally now
Speaker 7: eating garbage from the streets, but they have a company
Speaker 7: that controls all of the money making there that's sitting
Speaker 7: on fifteen sixteen billion dollars. So it's a broken, non
Speaker 7: functional economy, and it's impossible to change it. I wish
Speaker 7: it were different, but I believe it's my personal opinion.
Speaker 7: You cannot change the economic trajectory of Cuba. As long
Speaker 7: as the people who are in charge of it now
Speaker 7: are in charge of it, that's what's gonna have to change.
Speaker 7: Because these people are proven incapable. I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 7: We'll give them a chance, but I don't think it's
Speaker 7: gonna happen. I don't think we're going to be able
Speaker 7: to change the direct trajectory of Cuba as long as
Speaker 7: these people are in charge in that regime.
Speaker 1: These people are not in charge.
Speaker 6: I mean, I can envision American wealth and companies it
Speaker 6: could become.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the destination.
Speaker 7: The one thing Cuba would enjoy is an enormous expatriate community,
Speaker 7: you know, Cuban Americans that would go back and invest.
Speaker 1: But I think there would be interest globally.
Speaker 7: Look, they have significant mineral deposits in Cuba, you know,
Speaker 7: one of the you know, and some of the rare
Speaker 7: earth minerals, some of the best in the world. They
Speaker 7: have obviously an incredible opportunity with tourism, with agriculture, very
Speaker 7: rich farmland. So Cuba should not be a poor country.
Speaker 7: It's people should not be starving, It's people should be prosperous.
Speaker 7: And what's most interesting is You see Cubans everywhere in
Speaker 7: the world in the United States, but you see them
Speaker 7: in Europe, you see them in Panama. Cubans leave Cuba,
Speaker 7: they go to other countries and they become successful. The
Speaker 7: only place in the world where Cubans can't seem to
Speaker 7: prosper and succeed is in Cuba.
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Speaker 6: So Vladimir Putin recently said, and I thought this was
Speaker 6: interesting that the war with Ukraine may be coming to
Speaker 6: an end. One of the things I always talk a
Speaker 6: lot about the next generation of weaponry.
Speaker 1: I think we see that on display in our.
Speaker 6: Conflict with a Ran that we've had. I mean, Midnight Hammer,
Speaker 6: Epic Fury two examples, what the Israelis have done, more examples.
Speaker 6: But what's interesting, Ukraine has really impressed me. They seem
Speaker 6: to be creating the next generation of.
Speaker 1: Drone every four to ten.
Speaker 6: Days, and between drones and robots. Who would have thought
Speaker 6: four and a half years ago they would still be
Speaker 6: in this fight? Would I didn't expect that.
Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt that the necessity of fighting this
Speaker 7: war has caused the Ukrainians to develop new tactics, new techniques,
Speaker 7: new equipment, new technology that is creating a sort of
Speaker 7: hybrid asymmetrical warfare.
Speaker 1: That's impressive, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at the the Russians are
Speaker 7: losing five times as many soldiers a month as the
Speaker 7: Ukrainians are, and the Ukrainians a smaller country and a
Speaker 7: smaller army for that matter, although the Ukrainian armed forces
Speaker 7: are the strongest, most powerful armed forces in all of Europe,
Speaker 7: just to be clear right now, obviously because a lot
Speaker 7: of the assistants they've gotten, but also because of the
Speaker 7: battlefield experience that they've gained. As far as the broader conflict,
Speaker 7: the President just wants to see the war and he
Speaker 7: thinks it's a crazy war.
Speaker 1: And he's right.
Speaker 7: I mean, you have people dying in massive numbers on
Speaker 7: both sides. Ukraine is going to spend two decades rebuilding.
Speaker 7: The damage to the Russian economy is extraordinary. The Russians
Speaker 7: are losing fifteen to twenty thousand soldiers a month dead,
Speaker 7: not injured, dead. It's a bad war, and we stand
Speaker 7: prepared the President's stance, prepared as team stance, prepared to
Speaker 7: facilitate a diplomatic end of the war. Unfortunately, we've lost
Speaker 7: some momentum over the last few months for a variety
Speaker 7: of reasons. The Ukrainians feel increasingly confident about their battlefield
Speaker 7: position they got through the winter. The Russians feel a
Speaker 7: little bit optimist because the price of oil is up.
Speaker 7: But hopefully, you know, whether it's Latimer Putent statement or
Speaker 7: anything else, hopefully we'll reach a point here soon where
Speaker 7: both parties re engaged and we're prepared to play the
Speaker 7: role to mediate and to bring that to a conclusion.
Speaker 7: I think we're the only country in the world that can.
Speaker 7: If somebody else wants to try, they should do it.
Speaker 7: But both sides keep telling us we're the only ones
Speaker 7: that can. In the end, the President wants to see
Speaker 7: the war end, and it is something he can do
Speaker 7: and we can do to help it end.
Speaker 1: We're going to do it.
Speaker 6: So you had an opportunity recently to meet with Poe
Speaker 6: Leo from Chicago, an American. The only thing that surprised
Speaker 6: me about is conflicting and I went to Catholic schools
Speaker 6: for twelve years. I studied Latin, I studied theology, et cetera.
Speaker 6: And he said, God doesn't support any conflict. Am I
Speaker 6: the God of the Old Testament same as the God
Speaker 6: in the New Testament. I could start with, you know,
Speaker 6: David and Goliath. I'm not sure if I agreed with that,
Speaker 6: and I got killed, you know in the media. How
Speaker 6: dare I challenge the pope? But how did the meeting?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 1: Take us inside? It was a positive meeting.
Speaker 7: Look, I think I always start with the premise that
Speaker 7: the papacy and the pope is not a political office.
Speaker 7: It's covered by political reporters as a political office, but
Speaker 7: it's not.
Speaker 1: It is the you know, it's the vicar of Christ.
Speaker 7: For those of us who are Roman Catholic, it's the
Speaker 7: belief that he is the successor of Peter and on earth.
Speaker 1: And so now in that realm, you're going to make.
Speaker 7: Statements about social policy and even global policies that are
Speaker 7: going to touch on politics. And consistently the Church has
Speaker 7: said that they want to promote peace, that they prefer
Speaker 7: to avoid wars. They don't like wars, and that's been
Speaker 7: a position for a long time. Obviously, our perspective is
Speaker 7: different in that regard. I agree we wouldn't want wars either.
Speaker 1: We're not you know, we're no. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: in favor of war.
Speaker 7: But for a nation state, which is different from a
Speaker 7: religious office. For a nation state, there are threats to
Speaker 7: your security the well being of your people that have
Speaker 7: to be addressed, ideally through a diplomatic means. But there
Speaker 7: are conflicts and there are issues in the world that
Speaker 7: cannot be.
Speaker 1: Solved diplomatically no matter how hard you try. There's been
Speaker 1: over a decade of work done to.
Speaker 7: Try to diplomatically solve Iran's desire and ambition to have
Speaker 7: a nuclear weapons program.
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten any result.
Speaker 7: What was the diplomatic solution for an Adolph Hitler as
Speaker 7: an example, they're probably there was none right and unfortunately
Speaker 7: led to a war. So that's where I think the
Speaker 7: realm of the geopolitical is different and has to We
Speaker 7: are obviously guided by our faith, and we're instructed by
Speaker 7: our faith. That's the compass by which we live our lives.
Speaker 7: We also have an obligation to the national security of
Speaker 7: our country and that has to be taken into account.
Speaker 7: That's our primary job is to keep American safe. And
Speaker 7: that's why we're involved in Iran. That's why we're involved
Speaker 7: in anything we do around the world.
Speaker 6: What about the pope was a receptive to your comments
Speaker 6: and you well, I found him.
Speaker 7: Very you know, it's very unique because traditionally meeting with
Speaker 7: a pope and he you know, he's going to have
Speaker 7: an accent or he's going to have an interpreter. This
Speaker 7: is an American pope. I mean we spoke. We spoke
Speaker 7: for over an hour. We talked about a lot of topics.
Speaker 7: By the way, Chicago Base White Sauce.
Speaker 1: Where he does.
Speaker 7: But this is a pope, by the way, that understands
Speaker 7: the United States very well. Obviously, he follows our news
Speaker 7: very carefully. He's quite aware of current events in our country.
Speaker 7: But also we had a lot of other things to
Speaker 7: talk about. He's concerned about religious freedom. You know, he
Speaker 7: just came back from Africa, where the church is growing
Speaker 7: very fast, but ISIS and other terrorist elements are threatening
Speaker 7: Christians in Africa. I think he's concerned about events in
Speaker 7: Latin America. He had just had a visit from the
Speaker 7: bishops of Venezuela, so he wanted to choir As SOO
Speaker 7: how I thought that was going. We've actually worked with
Speaker 7: the Church in Cuba after the hurricane. We distributed or
Speaker 7: have tried to distribute, over six million dollars of humanitarian
Speaker 7: aid via the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: We've offered to do more.
Speaker 7: We've offered to distribute one hundred million dollars of humanity
Speaker 7: aid to the Cuban people through the church, and the
Speaker 7: regime has denied it.
Speaker 1: The Cuban regime, So there was a lot we covered
Speaker 1: in the start. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think just to be a secretary of State, that's
Speaker 6: a pretty cool jacket they get.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a gift that somebody gave me, and
Speaker 7: it's it's good to wear it on the play.
Speaker 6: You are you and look, you were a senator for
Speaker 6: all these years. I've known you for so many years.
Speaker 6: We've had a friendship for so many years. How do
Speaker 6: you compare this job to everything else you've done.
Speaker 7: Well, it's quite different, right the we're The work of
Speaker 7: a legislator involves constituent service, and it involves writing of legislation,
Speaker 7: committee meetings, oversight. And I enjoyed doing all of that
Speaker 7: and and it was an important era in our life.
Speaker 7: This is a very different opportunity. This is in the
Speaker 7: executive branch. Here, you're actually executing on laws uh and
Speaker 7: and you're you're basically you're executing the president's foreign policy.
Speaker 1: So I enjoy the role. I enjoyed the job, and
Speaker 1: I enjoy.
Speaker 7: Working for this president because he's willing to do what
Speaker 7: others talk about but don't do. You know when you say, well,
Speaker 7: we can't do that, and you'll say why, that's his question,
Speaker 7: why why can't we do that? Why hasn't been this
Speaker 7: been done before? He is willing to do what others
Speaker 7: are not willing to do. He is willing to solve
Speaker 7: unfinished business and not leave it for the next guy
Speaker 7: or gal.
Speaker 1: And I admire that. And it's a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to be a part of it.
Speaker 6: You know, it's frustrated me is there is some that
Speaker 6: interpret the Trump doctorate, as I call it, as isolation
Speaker 6: as a well. He took out the isis cal of Fate,
Speaker 6: took out Solamani and bag Daddy, dropped the mother of
Speaker 6: all mombs on Afghanistan, Midnight Hammer, and he will wrap
Speaker 6: up epic fury.
Speaker 1: And he did make the raid on Maduro.
Speaker 6: But I see three lessons He's learned in history, and
Speaker 6: this is the last last question. And I see that
Speaker 6: he saw that over a hundred million souls died in
Speaker 6: the last century. So if you can take out neutralize
Speaker 6: a threat ahead of time, it's smart. I also think
Speaker 6: he learned from Reagan peace through strength. He built up
Speaker 6: the military in his first term. And I love the
Speaker 6: idea that he doesn't want to be an occupational force
Speaker 6: and doesn't want forwards.
Speaker 7: I do, and I would just add one more element
Speaker 7: to it. America is going to be engaged in the world.
Speaker 7: This is not about turning inward, but we are going
Speaker 7: to engage in the world based on what's good for America,
Speaker 7: what's in the national interest of the United States. Does
Speaker 7: what we're doing make the country safer, more secure, more prosperous.
Speaker 1: If it does, it's in our national interest.
Speaker 7: If it doesn't, it might be a nice thing to do,
Speaker 7: but it won't be as high up on the priority list.
Speaker 7: So that's where I think you see him engaging in
Speaker 7: the world. He doesn't engage in every conflict and in
Speaker 7: every topic. I mean, we have an opinion, we may
Speaker 7: try to do something in the margins, but he gets
Speaker 7: engaged and spends his time focused on things around the
Speaker 7: world that directly impact the security and the prosperity of
Speaker 7: the American people. If there's some place in the world
Speaker 7: where Americans business can prosper and therefore help our economy,
Speaker 7: the President's engage. If it's trade to benefit our factories,
Speaker 7: our workers, the presidents engaged.
Speaker 1: If it's a threat to our national security.
Speaker 7: Whether it's now or something that looms three years down
Speaker 7: the world, the President it's not going to leave it
Speaker 7: as unfinished business, he engages.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about NATO.
Speaker 6: I felt that they didn't have the moral clarity on
Speaker 6: the number one state sponsor of terror.
Speaker 1: That's troubling to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the problem with NATO and four And I've been
Speaker 7: a supporter of NATO throughout my career in the Senate,
Speaker 7: and one of the reasons why I supported NATO was
Speaker 7: because it gave us basing rights. It allows us to
Speaker 7: have bases in Europe that we could use in a
Speaker 7: contingency like something in the Middle East, you know, where
Speaker 7: you could have planes flying from some country in Europe
Speaker 7: and actually protecting our national interest in the Middle East
Speaker 7: as an.
Speaker 1: Example, or in Africa.
Speaker 7: And so when you have NATO partners denying you the
Speaker 7: use of those bases. When the primary reason why NATO's
Speaker 7: good for America is now being denied to us by
Speaker 7: Spain as an example, then what's the purpose of the alliance?
Speaker 7: It starts becoming a you know, their allies when they
Speaker 7: want to be kind and look to be fair. There
Speaker 7: are countries in NATO that were very helpful to us.
Speaker 7: I just singling went out Portugal, they said yes before
Speaker 7: we even asked, told.
Speaker 1: Them what the question was.
Speaker 8: Poland, Poland.
Speaker 7: So there are countries in Romania, Bulgaria, others like Spain
Speaker 7: have been atrocious, just horrifying. So I do think there's
Speaker 7: some very legitimate questions to ask about NATO, And that
Speaker 7: is what is the purpose of being an alliance whose
Speaker 7: benefit to us is these basing rights? If in a
Speaker 7: time of conflict like the one we've had with Iran,
Speaker 7: they can deny us the use of those bases, So
Speaker 7: why are we there for only to protect them, but
Speaker 7: not to further our national interests.
Speaker 1: This is a very legitimate question that we need to address,
Speaker 1: and we've paid two thirds of the bill. The Secretary
Speaker 1: great to say it, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 8: Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. So there's
Speaker 8: no more Marco Rubio. That's it.
Speaker 1: It's all Mark Simone.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I gotta talk now, I gotta talk
Speaker 8: for we missed you. Yeah, yeah, no, that was that
Speaker 8: fascinating interview.
Speaker 1: Doesn't Rubio do enough jobs? Thank you very much?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Rubio has done so many jobs. You know, everybody thought,
Speaker 8: oh jd Vance twenty twenty eight. Uh, Rubio looks like
Speaker 8: a jack of all trades man who can really And
Speaker 8: when he.
Speaker 9: Was you know, when he was in Congress, he was
Speaker 9: great in Congress. And even when he ran and they
Speaker 9: had their sparring moments him and Trump, you know, they
Speaker 9: got over it. And he's a big boy and took
Speaker 9: on this great role. He's been crushing it.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Remember he was little Marco, Little Marco. Now he's
Speaker 8: he's the adult in the room. Now he's the senior,
Speaker 8: top most respected guy probably in that administration. So hey,
Speaker 8: I just want to mention good news. The New York Times,
Speaker 8: besides being the most partisan slanted paper ever, it's got
Speaker 8: to be the most antisemitic paper ever. They have been
Speaker 8: attacking Israel. Well, listen, this has been going on for
Speaker 8: one hundred years, so they were involved in covering up
Speaker 8: the Holocaust. The New York Times, they in the last
Speaker 8: week went crazy attacking Israel, including I'd like to say this,
Speaker 8: accusing Israel of training dogs to rape women. The columnist
Speaker 8: Nicholas Christoff writing this in The New York Times. And
Speaker 8: then they articles yesterday about Israel has been raping their
Speaker 8: female prisoners. Just idiotic, ridiculous, ludicrous stuff. Well, bb Net
Speaker 8: and Yahoo and the Israeli government have announced they're suing
Speaker 8: the New York Times. They're filing a massive defamation suit
Speaker 8: against the New York Times. Now Alan Dershowitz, who's been
Speaker 8: talking about this for years with The New York Times,
Speaker 8: I imagine, and he is very close to bb not
Speaker 8: in Naho. Imagine Dershwitz will jump in and help this lawsuit.
Speaker 8: But this will be this will be pretty interesting. It's
Speaker 8: the Israeli governments suing the New York Times. There'll be
Speaker 8: all kinds of what they call discovery, where all kinds
Speaker 8: of documents, witnesses, everything can be uncovered. And this will
Speaker 8: be a great, great moment to go after the New
Speaker 8: York Times. Obviously, as we are not doing it for
Speaker 8: the money. It's just to get back put a stop
Speaker 8: to the anti semitism at the New York Times. What
Speaker 8: are you smiling at, Linda, No.
Speaker 9: I mean the New York Times. It is just such
Speaker 9: an incredible foundational piece of you know, literature in our history.
Speaker 9: Even just today, as you were saying earlier, you know,
Speaker 9: noticing one of the biggest moments in this trip to China,
Speaker 9: like not enough women at the table.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was the only thing.
Speaker 9: It's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Please shut up.
Speaker 9: We're a meritocracy. It has nothing to do with your gender.
Speaker 9: I could care less which genders at the table. It's
Speaker 9: about who's best for the job.
Speaker 8: Have a nice day.
Speaker 9: New York Times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, New York Times. You know a million years ago,
Speaker 8: have you said, oh, it's in the New York Times,
Speaker 8: everybody was mad pressed. I know. Now if you say
Speaker 8: it's in the New York Times, everybody goes, oh god,
Speaker 8: why what happened? Yeah, it's I mean, if you had
Speaker 8: to believe something of the National Inquirer or the New
Speaker 8: York Times, I don't know, that's a tough choice. Hey,
Speaker 8: so we're out of time. But Sean Handy, well, not quite.
Speaker 9: You got a little bit more time. Oh you've got
Speaker 9: one minute left with us. I know it's a struggle,
Speaker 9: but try to struggle. Try to, you know, manage through it,
Speaker 9: my friend, and remind everybody. I mean, I know you're
Speaker 9: too bashful, you know you're so shy. But you know,
Speaker 9: Mark is one of the number one shows in all
Speaker 9: of America in the morning. I mean he takes top
Speaker 9: you know, top rank every single demo.
Speaker 8: Can you do listen to me ten to noon on
Speaker 8: w R New York or on the iHeart app.
Speaker 9: And you can follow on an Instagram because he is
Speaker 9: a bit of a photographer. He's a little shy about
Speaker 9: that too, but he's very good.
Speaker 8: Mark Simone, NYC at Instagram. And what about the Linda podcast?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have a podcast called the Rogue Recap. It's
Speaker 9: not for the faint of heart, but yes I have one.
Speaker 9: It's on iHeart. If you want to listen to it,
Speaker 9: you can. I say a lot of things there, there
Speaker 9: you go.
Speaker 8: And so I did my own show today Tendon and
Speaker 8: plus I'm doing this show. There's a lot of work I.
Speaker 9: Want to listen. If I can have you here every day,
Speaker 9: alongside shown I would we miss you?
Speaker 8: Mark Well, I miss you, but I'm glad it's over.
Speaker 8: I hear music, I'm hungry, I want to go, so hey,
Speaker 8: watch Hannity tonight, big interview with President Trump, and I'll
Speaker 8: be back here tomorrow