1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome. We are back in Houston. Mark 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Vandermar John Harris with you on the program, keeping you 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: in touch with your Houston Texans Texans All Access here 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio across the hall from 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans locker room, which is not exactly bustling 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: with activity right now, John, No kind of quiet right now. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Rodeo time. Although DJ Reader riding a horse. You know, 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: we've got other things going on. Jordan Thomas doing stuff 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: at the rodeo. Videos you will see soon on Houston 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Texans dot com and other places. You know, NFL players 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: and future NFL players on a horse. A big storyline 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: this weekend really Devin White, who we got talking about 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: the combine too. I know we got news and we'll 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: talk about talking about that. But Devin White, linebacker from LSU, 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: when he declared for the draft, he rode Daisy May, 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: his horse. I think it's his horse, may not be 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: his horse, but it's the one of the rides in 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge and he rode Daisy May into Tiger Stadium 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: and rode her around own Tiger Stadium. They showed the video. 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: It's fantastic I mean, it's great stuff declared. Otherwise that 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: could be an illegal benefits. It could be, but yeah, 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: horses all the rage. So DJ Reader getting on a horse, 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: good for him, that's good stuff. I've never been on 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: a horse. I don't know if Jevion Clowney has been 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: on a horse lately or ever, but he's been franchise 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: tagged by this franchise. So he is. And let's explain 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: to everybody what this means for Clowney, for your Texans. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: And we don't know how it's all going to end up, 29 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: but we know the beginning of it. Yes, And so 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: there are number of steps in this process. Number one 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: is the Texans placing the franchise tag on jeeveon Clowney. 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Now it's a non exclusive tag, which means that other 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: teams can they can send an offer sheet, right and 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the Texans can look at that and match that and 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: keep Clowney, or the Texans can say Nope, we're not 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: up for that, and that team would then have to 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: kick over two first round picks to the Texans. The 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: exclusive tag is just it's you and that player and 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, everybody else, you just you two figure 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: it out. So I think there are a couple of 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: things with this non exclusive tag. Number one, other teams 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: can jump in and help set the market. What is 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: what is the actual market for Jadeveon Clowney in a 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: long term in a long term situation. So a team 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: comes up and they set the market and they put 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: it at a particular number, and then the Texans get 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: to decide essentially, are are they happy with that? They 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: want to go with that number, they can match it, 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: and then that's what they're gonna go with for a 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: long term situation for jev And look, they've got until 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: July fifteenth to negotiate a long term deal. Now, the 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: second part of this is that Jadevion, as far as 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: we know at this point, has not signed it, but 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: the tag has just been placed on him. Now Levion Bell, 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: and that's probably the comparison point here with the franchise tag. 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Levon Bell never signed his franchise tag. So when there 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: was talking about Levion Bell coming back, that's what Bell 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: would have had to have done. He would have to 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: sign a franchise tag. But for Bell, it was the 60 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: second year of a franchise tag. So Bell said he 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to be franchise the second year. He played 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: under the franchise tag the year before, which was twenty seventeen, 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: and he wasn't gonna do it again in twenty eighteen. 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: So that's where all that came from. Now, I don't 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe that JD has signed it, and he 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: may not. But they can renegotiate, or they can negotiate 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: all the way up until July fifteenth. So that's your 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: next deadline with Devion Clowney. So franchise tag placed on 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: him today, non exclusive. They've got until July fifteenth to 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: try and work out a long term deal. In all 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: ducations are that they're gonna try and continue to come 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: to an agreement on a long term deal just because 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: they had, Yeah, just because he had to place the 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: franchise tag on him. I don't think it's a I 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad thing. No, I wasn't. I 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking that at all. I just think it's a 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: step in the process. As Bill Bryant said, it's a 78 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: long process. He told us to come, it's a long 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: process with the business of football. Well you understand it 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: from Clowney's camp. You want the maximum as to what 81 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: your value might be with it. Absolutely, if you're the Texans, 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't want Clowney hitting the market without any thing 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: in return, other than if you just let him hit 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the market without the tag, you'd get a draft choice back, 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: big deal. This way, you could get a really nice 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: deal if that's what you're looking for, if another team 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: does make that offer. So there's one option on the table, 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: or one possibility anyway. The other one is you work 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: out a deal before July fifteenth, Now, Johnny, if they 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: don't work out a deal by July fifteenth, Clowney can 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: play for the whatever it is, fourteen fifteen million dollars 92 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed that he'll get. So like his worst case scenario is, well, 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: there's another scenario out there, but that's it right there, right, 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get that money if you're beyond 95 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Clowney for minimum one year. If he decides to wait, 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: then it's a whole different deal because he's not going 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: to be paid for nonplay. So then he gets kind 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: of sticky. You know about Levion Bell, everybody, what happened 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: to him. He sits out a year, he doesn't make 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: the money that he would have gotten for that particular season. Now, 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe he banks in the next contract as he hits 102 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: the open market. But you know, I always think it's 103 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: a sticky situation for a player if he decides not 104 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: to take that money for that one year at the 105 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: very least, if he's unable to come to an agreement 106 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: with his team. Absolutely, as soon as JD signs that 107 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: franchise tag, it is guaranteed for that year. Yep. As 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: soon as he signs it today, he could do it. 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: He could sign it today, he sign it tonight. Done, 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: it's guaranteed. It's guaranteed money. Negotiate the long term deal, yes, 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: And you can still negotiate the long term deal up 112 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: until July fifteenth. So the question for JD. Is he 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: a defensive endor? Is the a linebacker? That is a 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: term by the league that's not determined by the team. 115 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: The team actually paid him an additional million dollars because 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: of that designation that they played him more a defensive 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: end than outside linebacker, and so they paid him that 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: the team did, but that is something the league determines. Well, 119 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: that is exactly So hopefully when they come to a 120 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: long term deal that won't that won't matter. But as 121 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: far as tag designation goes, they've got to decide defensive 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: and a linebackers. It's the abbreviation for what Clowney is 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: is FSGW front seven game wrecker. Yeah, okay, it's not linebacker, 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: it's not defensive lineman. He plays in the front seven 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: often wherever he would prefer and rex the game. So 126 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how you designate that salary wise, and 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: it's not my business, and it's up for Brian Gang, 128 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: Chris Olson and Clowney's people to figure it out. But 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: good luck to them in the league, as you say, 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens there. Clowney very valuable part 131 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: of this team, There's no doubt about it. That's why 132 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: they do this. They don't do this because, oh, we 133 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: want them to go. They do it because they want 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: them to stay. They want to come to an agreement. 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: What do I always say the worst two things about 136 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: being a sports fan contract negotiations and injuries. You know 137 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: you're following this stuff, you know, I know some people 138 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: really get into the contracts. I don't have their guaranteed 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 1: money and the dead cap money and the cap money, 140 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: and they go at a spot rack and whatever its 141 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: spot tracks, bow track whatever, spot rack, yeah, whatever. Yeah, 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: they like to follow all this stuff. Yeah, you know, 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I spent a whole day, uh with the salaries trying 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to figure that out and trying to It's the one 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: it's the one part of the game of football that 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: that can be really difficult, and it's difficult for a 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, if you think about it, 148 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Brian Gaining was one of the things we talked about 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: with Brian Gaine. You know, when Brian Gaine got into 150 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: this this business, if you will, if you think about it, 151 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: he got in watching players, studying players, trying to find 152 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: NFL players. I mean, he got in being a scout. 153 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: He loved watching film, he loved watching guys. They're trying 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: to figure out which guys are gonna, you know, fit 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: his team. And then when you move up the ladder 156 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're you're thinking about being 157 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: a GM or you get to be a GM allsod, 158 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you've got to start thinking about these business of football 159 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: sort of things that you don't think about the same 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: thing for a head coach. Head coach gets in because 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: he likes coaching ballplays, he likes being around ball players, 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: he likes leading the team in some way, shape or form. 163 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: And then you get to be an NFL head coach 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: like Bill O'Brien, and all of a sudden, you've got 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: all these different things that you've got to think about 166 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: that I don't want to say work against the way 167 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: you are, but in some sense, and we talked about 168 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: this with Bill at the combine. It's the one part 169 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: of football that he really doesn't like because you get 170 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: up in front of your team, you get close with 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: your team. To be successful, you've got to have that camaraderie. 172 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you get into March 173 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: and in the business of football kicks in and it's 174 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: like you lose this player or this player goes somewhere else, right, 175 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: bring other players in. It's it's really difficult part of 176 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: this whole process, and I think it's gonna be that 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: way for Brian Gain as well to go through this 178 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: and figure this out. Luckily, a guy like Chris Olsen 179 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: is there, and Chris has done a whale of a 180 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: job and Brian pointing him out the other day, Chris 181 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: has done a whale of a job with these contracts. 182 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris is just unbelievable. The way he is 183 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: able to structure these contracts to get players happy, but 184 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: that are also helpful for the team in some way, 185 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: shape or form. I just think this is really this 186 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: is a really interesting one with JD. And you know 187 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: how I feel about it. I think j D is 188 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: as valuable as anybody on this team. He because he 189 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: provides so much versatility. We're talking to Greg co Sell 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the other night and Greg asked me about him. I said, 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Clowney has two elite traits. Number one's versatility. Number two 192 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: is power. Those two things that he hasn't I mean, 193 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get the speed. I mean, you could say 194 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: his speedies elite, but his power and his versatility make 195 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: him the you know f SGW that you just called him. 196 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: That's what makes him that type of player. So having 197 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: him the versatility, allowing him to move up and down 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage and to that end, I don't 199 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: know if there would have been other teams that would 200 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: have taken Clowney and done with him what the Texans did. 201 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: I think some teams would have just put Clowney in 202 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: the outside and just said, all right, here you go, 203 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: you just play out here in the way you got 204 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: outside linebacker, plays on the edge, put his hand down 205 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: on pass rushdowns, he plays out to a linebacker. That's 206 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. I don't know the other teams 207 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: would have said, let's move him over here. Yeah, let's 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: move him here. Let's do this with him. Yeah, let's 209 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: try this. Let's stand him up at linebacker. I don't 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: know the other teams would have done that. Maybe they 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: would have figured it out him over the center. But 212 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: the way the Texans have used him is that have 213 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: actually increased his value, I think because I think other 214 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: teams would have gotten him and said, Okay, well you're 215 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: just an edge guy. And I think that's the beauty 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: of Clowney is that he's not just an edge guy. 217 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean he is a front seven guy. Play him 218 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: up and down the front seven. He'll dominate anybody. You 219 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: play again and play him again. So that to me 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: is where his value comes in. Maybe down in the 221 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: high sack volume, but what it is that he opens 222 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: up for a lot of players on this front seven. 223 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: And you know, when you're dealing with contract negotiations, you 224 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: talk about sacks, you talk about some of the numbers. Now, 225 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: if you're looking at TFLs. You're looking at one of 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the elite players in this league in the last few years. 227 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that. I know the 228 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: sack totals aren't to some people's and by some people, 229 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean some of the less educated pundits or fans 230 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: liking they would like to see more and look, who 231 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't like to see more sex? But how he affects 232 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: the game. I always say this, if you're the opposing 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, what do you think of that player? You're 234 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: having nightmares about j J. Watt, You're having nightmares about 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. Those are the two in the front seven 236 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: that you're having nightmares about. You certainly have to deal 237 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: with Merciless, who did not have the kind of volume 238 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: statistically this past season as he had in the past. 239 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: But he's still very good on the edge and all 240 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: of that. We don't have to get into his situation 241 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: right now. But as far as real game changers, oh 242 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: my gosh, it's so there with Jadeveon, And you're right, 243 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: you know, how do you determine the value that's for 244 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: them to figure out? And it's too bad to be 245 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: in that room. You mentioned it about being coach O'Brien 246 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: and you get to March and it's the business of football. 247 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: But then you reload, you have your ninety man roster, 248 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: and then then you have who you have right after 249 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: the draft, free agency draft, you have your ninety man roster, 250 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: and then it happens again in August. Because what does 251 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: he always say when he has to make cuts, These 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: guys have done everything we've asked to that it's painful 253 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: because those guys have been on this journey with you 254 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: from April seventeenth or whatever, you know, as far as 255 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: the free agents. Then right after the draft and then 256 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: you have to make cuts of undrafted free agents. Most 257 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: of the draft choices make the team obviously, and the 258 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: free agents that you don't keep, some of the street 259 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: guys that you won't keep. And we see him, Bill O'Brien, 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: it is We see Bill O'Brien after every cutdown of 261 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: fifty three and he just it's one of those days. 262 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I know that he would rather not have to go through, 263 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: would absolutely not have to go through it. But that's 264 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: the way it's set up. That's what you have to do. 265 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: You can't keep all ninety guys. You can't keep seventy 266 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: five like they used to have. One point, you gotta 267 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: get to fifty three. You gotta make tough decisions. And 268 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: he's charged with doing that, and Brian Gain his charged 269 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: with doing that, and they and they'll get it done, 270 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: and they'll get us through this business, a football situation, 271 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully twenty nineteen ends up being a year that 272 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: we'll all remember for doing some great things. All right, 273 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: coming up a bunch of things. We gotta get Johnny's 274 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: combined review. We broke down the offensive lineman work scouts 275 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: on Friday. Let's get into some of the other position 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: groups that have taken the stage at Lucasoil Stadium in 277 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: the last few days. Also, I am not jealous of 278 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: anything that the Cowboys have done post nineteen ninety six, 279 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: because the Texans actually have more playoff wins than the 280 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys do post nineteen ninety six. But this one thing 281 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of jealous of. I'll share with you what 282 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: that is. It's all coming up on Texans Radio, keeping 283 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: you in touch with your Houston Texans. Texans All Access 284 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandamaron John 285 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: Harris with you. Johnny Combine. We talked a lot about 286 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: Clowning in the first segment. So if you just stepped in, 287 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Clowney has been tagged and the team's gonna work on 288 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: a deal and they hope to get one done. We'll 289 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Obviously, we'll keep you posted. You 290 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: just gotta be listening all the time and following Houston 291 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Texans dot com. Combine. You went over Old Liman on Friday. 292 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Did anything come in after the show that you wanted 293 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: to mention regarding Old Linman other than running into people 294 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: at the airport, Johnny and try to recruit them, Johnny, 295 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: You can't recruit in the NFL. Doesn't work that way 296 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: with these college guys. I tried. I suggested Andre Dillard 297 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: from Washington State and said, look, our plans going this way. 298 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: You want to come with us. He started too, and 299 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: then he realized, now he's got to get he's got 300 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: to get back home. But I don't think Andre Dillard's 301 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna be around at twenty three, which which pains me 302 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: to say. It seemed like a nice kid. Pains me 303 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: to say because I've been watching this guy for three 304 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: years and I just with the hope that man just 305 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: maybe we can sneak him by, but he was outstanding. 306 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, his whole his old combine performance was just unbelievable. 307 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifteen pounds to run a four nine 308 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: nine forty. I mean, he was just he was just fantastic. 309 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: He was really really good. So it's been a it's been. 310 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: It was a good offensive live class. But to me, 311 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the story, the story came down to SEC behemoths just 312 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: showing it off and showing why the SEC had ninety 313 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: guys at the combine. Ninety. I mean that's like a 314 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, DK Metcalf wide receiver from all Miss put 315 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: on an absolute show at two hundred and twenty seven pounds. 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: He did twenty seven reps at two twenty five and 317 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: I remember we were sitting over there we saw it happen, 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: and I remember you turned around and you looked at 319 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: me and go, why is this compelling? It is? I 320 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: don't understand why it is. And they're just they're just 321 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: doing bench press. But I mean, it was fascinated to 322 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: watch DK put up twenty seven reps. Then he ran 323 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: four three three and I knew he would run fast. 324 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: I knew he would run fast. I knew that, but 325 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: four three three at two hundred and twenty eight pounds 326 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: is just ridiculous with twenty seven reps as well. I 327 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: mean DK stole, he stole the show as a wide receiver. 328 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I thought there were some other pretty good, pretty solid 329 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver performances. Andy Isabella from UMass ran four three one, 330 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: and I hated it for him because what ended up happening, 331 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: and this happens with the combine because it's on television. 332 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: You keep going back to that one guy that's hot. 333 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: It's hot man talking about DK Metcalf. I mean, that's 334 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: a hot item. Well, the timer when Isabella ran, got 335 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: started early, so when it posted, it posted a four 336 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: to five four. But it started early. But I'm telling you, 337 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: if Annie Isabella had run a four three one, they 338 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: would have been talking about him. But they saw four 339 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: or five four and they went, kame, we think he's faster. 340 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: But oh well, then they came back later and talked 341 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: about it a little bit. DJ and rich Eisen they 342 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit, saying that he beat 343 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Denzel Ward in track back in high school, and Denzel 344 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: ran a four three one last year, So Annie Isabella 345 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: ran four three one. I thought that was a really 346 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: really good time for him. Let let me pause you 347 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: right there in the vander Mock. I had him going 348 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: in round three to the Texans. It's about right. I 349 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: think the round is about right. The round is about 350 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: right because they ran the forty. So now I'm not 351 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: saying that the Texas are gonna take him, but I 352 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: think round kind of correct, even hint of correct information 353 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: out of the vandermark as I possibly can. Yeah, that 354 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: was that was pretty good. But the freakazoids were yesterday. 355 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Montes Sweat. Montes Sweat and my buddy I found out 356 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, and my buddy's his agent, and 357 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I was like, and it's interesting because a few years ago, 358 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: I remember my buddy called me and asked me about 359 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: Bernardrick McKinney, and so my my buddy was trying to 360 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: get him as a client, and he didn't get Bernardrick, 361 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: but he ended up getting Montes. And I saw Montes 362 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and I just I love the 363 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: guy because he's long armed. I think he's like thirty 364 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: five and three quarters in charms two sixty he's two 365 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: sixty two and he ran a four four one Mark. 366 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: He would have been the fifth fastest corner at the 367 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: combine at six six two sixty two. Oh my god, 368 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean it was just it was just ridiculous what 369 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: this guy did. Um but what I you know, Josh Allen, 370 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: the other edge rusher that gets a lot of a 371 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of acclaim, I didn't think he had a great 372 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean he came in at two sixty as well. 373 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think he did as as well. Um it 374 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: thirty did okay, but he ran into four six range, 375 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: which is the guy two hundred six two pounds is 376 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty good. It's just in comparison to sweat, it's almost glacial. 377 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: But Quinny Williams at three h three ran a four 378 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: eight three. He said a personal best time of his 379 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: first run at four eighty seven, and he's like, nah, 380 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: I can do better. He ran a four eight three 381 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: at three hundred three pounds. He's he's gonna be a 382 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: top three pick. I don't think there's any question. Rashaan 383 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Gary four to five eight at two seventy seven. I 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: mean that's clowney like stuff. I mean that's I mean, 385 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: that's like, that's how clowney is. I just I was 386 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: looking at the whole crop of defensive lineman and and 387 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I know you have the defensive ends and tackles, but 388 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: the whole tackles they look so cut. It's sick. There's like, 389 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: where's the body fat? There's there's I mean, dk Metcalf 390 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: has one point six percent body fat. Really, I mean, 391 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: have you seen the picture of him, you know, I 392 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: mean he's jack but Rashad Gary a thirty eight ins 393 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: vertical ten foot broad jump and ran a four five 394 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: eight two hundred seventy seven pounds. I mean, that's that's 395 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: absolutely insane stuff. But the linebackers I thought ran really 396 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: well too. Devin White ran four four two. Devin White 397 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: linebacker four four two, and Devin Bush, linebacker ran four 398 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: four three. So do we get overhyped on the forties? 399 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: Obviously right now we do a little bit, but there's 400 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: nothing else to follow. So it's kind of like it's 401 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: forty season, you know, a little bit football season. It's 402 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: forty season. You get it gets out of whack if 403 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: a guy runs a time, but he doesn't play that way. 404 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: But when you watch Devin White and you watch Devin Bush, 405 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: you see four four two and four for three like 406 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you see it sideline and sideline. You see that speed. Ironically, 407 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: last year, I mean, Roquan Smith set the table for them, 408 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: but Roquan didn't run like this. Roquan ran the four fives, 409 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: and everybody loved Roquan. He went number eight to the 410 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. These two guys run four four and I 411 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: know Tampa Bay sitting at five and they have a 412 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: linebacker Nie because they're probably gonna Losequan Alexander. I wouldn't 413 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: be surprised to see them take a flyer on Devin White. 414 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: I mean, that would make a lot of sense. But 415 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: four four two is just ridiculous. But the thing was 416 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. And look, I don't think the Texans 417 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: are in the market for inside linebackers. I was blown 418 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: away about how the inside linebackers ran. All of them 419 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: ran really, really well. I mean Blake Cashman from Minnesota, 420 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: I think he ran in four fives. I mean, these 421 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: guys ran extremely well, led by Bush and by Devin 422 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: White running four four two. If you're these coaches and scouts, 423 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: what are you looking for in an inside linebacker? You 424 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: want the speed, but you also want the ability to 425 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: turn some of the other drills do come in handy 426 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: when you're evaluating them and trying to put them all 427 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: on the same group and figure out who's best from 428 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: that group. Well, I think it depends. I think the 429 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: days of two hundred and fifty five pound Bernardrick McKinney's 430 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: in the NFL at least for the time being. I 431 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: don't say they're gone, but I don't remember seeing a 432 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: linebacker at two hundred and fifty pounds in this draft 433 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: inside an inside guy. I don't think you're gonna find that. 434 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Saying something right, it really is. I mean, the colleges 435 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: are taking these safety sized players that might be in 436 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: some sense, you know, a little heavier than safety, saying 437 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: just put them out this a linebacker. I mean, you're 438 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: doing the same thing, right, You run all these spread stuff. 439 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: You gotta run guys down sideline to sideline. Yeah, put 440 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: these guys in line. And so that's what they're doing. 441 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: They're taking these fast, what would have been strong safety 442 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: types way back in the day, and they're making them 443 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: inside linebackers. And so that's why you're seeing these guys 444 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: two hundred, two hundred and thirty something pounds, two hundred 445 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds. I mean two hundred and forty 446 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: pounds now is is almost an aberration. I mean, I'm 447 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: just looking at the Devin bush Is two thirty four, 448 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: Devin White two thirty seven, Tavont Conny Coney from order 449 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Name two thirty four, two thirty four, two thirty three, 450 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: two forty two from Wisconsin was big and slow. I mean, 451 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, at four to six six is pretty good. 452 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: But just looking at the guys to combine, hardly any 453 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: of them are beyond two forty. Bernardrick eats dad for breakfast. Yeah, 454 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, My gosh, So when you're 455 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: looking at this, you're thinking, Okay, i've got a guy. 456 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm looking at Bernardrick, I'm looking at 457 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: a guy that goes forward. He doesn't go back all 458 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: that often. Now he's done a little bit more of that. 459 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: But you're thinking about a guy that plays first and 460 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: second down in the middle and then maybe it rushes 461 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: from the edge, so he's always going forward. A lot 462 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: of these guys are gonna go back. They're gonna be 463 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Tampa two droppers, They're gonna run down the middle of 464 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: the field. They're gonna do those kind of things. So 465 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: you want to see the speed. You want to see 466 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: the four four. You want to see him going sideline. 467 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: The sideline, you know, Tyreek Hill is running with the 468 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: football on a jet sweep and your linebacker can have 469 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: any chance of running him down from behind. I mean 470 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: it's incredible. You know, quarterback like de Sean, everybody in 471 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: the world's faked out, and that that linebacker can go 472 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: run him down like that. I mean, it's it's amazing 473 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: to see the fact that they've gotten smaller, but they've 474 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: gotten so much faster. You're just you're basically taking glorified 475 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: safeties and playing in our game. Now you're not gonna 476 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: see I don't think any longer the two down linebacker, 477 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: the big you know, this guy could stop the run 478 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: on first and second out, at least not for a while, 479 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: until teams start to see it getting too small. Like 480 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots, they saw the Rams going too small against them. 481 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: What they do. They put Devlin in the game. They 482 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: put two tight ends in the game, and they hammered. 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: They went power, and they went power. So you might 484 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: see some teams before it back to that, but it 485 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: won't be for a while. It won't be for a 486 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: while because there's enough spread that's going on that you're 487 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna need two hundred and forty pounds that 488 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: can run like these guys out on the field. The 489 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: whole Roger Banister thing is always in play. And for 490 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: those who don't know, Roger Banister was the one who 491 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: broke the four minute bile right right, and they thought 492 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: it couldn't be done. Once he did it, everybody started 493 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: to do it. So that says to me, athletes get bigger, stronger, faster. 494 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: That's why I always say that any NFL team now 495 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: would crush the Pittsburgh Steelers of the nineteen seventies. It 496 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: would not even be It wouldn't even be a game. 497 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: It would be one hundred to ten, it would be. 498 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: It would be ridiculous because of the weight differential. Now, 499 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: if you could beam those guys up today, maybe they 500 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, they have the weight training whatever else we 501 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: have going on today, and things are different, although body 502 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: types might not accommodate that. Well. Mean Joe Green was 503 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: two seventy five. Just to give you an example, folks, Yeah, 504 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: now you could probably play today because now now it's 505 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: maybe coming back a little bit. Yeah, I mean, mean 506 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: Joe hey make a comeback. Yeah, I mean Joe mean 507 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: Joe would be you know, he'd be at Oliver. I 508 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: guess m and Ed about him. You know Ed? Ed? 509 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: How do I say this? And I want to make 510 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: sure I said this properly. Ed maybe game the system 511 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, if that makes sense. And here's what 512 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean by that. Ed knew all eyes were on 513 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: what he weighed, right, right, So he goes in any 514 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: ways two eighty seven, You're like, whoa, Okay, that's heavier 515 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: than Aaron Donald at the combine. But then Ed didn't 516 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: run the combine and didn't do on field drills at 517 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: the combine. Oh, but Ed did his vertical jump and 518 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: he did his broad jump because he's that explosive, so 519 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: he knows he could do it with the extra weight. 520 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: He didn't want to run with the extra weight. So 521 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: when he comes back for his pro day which is 522 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: late March, and they're not gonna weigh him at the 523 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: pro day, right, they will, they they will, But is 524 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: that gonna be Is that gonna Is that gonna matter 525 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: as much or people are gonna be paying as much 526 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: attention to that? Probably not? Well, if he goes to 527 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy five and then he runs fast. 528 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we can work with it. You think 529 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: you'd think, but he went two eighty seven and decided, 530 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna run or work out or anything 531 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: like that. I'm not gonna do any of that stuff. 532 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do my explosive, my explosives, which we 533 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: already know that he is. It's just a at what 534 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: level he benched two twenty five thirty two times, He 535 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: had a thirty six inch vertical and he had a 536 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: ten foot broad jump. Those are sick numbers for a 537 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: defensive line. What's the latest two seven? Uh, that's a 538 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: great question. I don't think he gets out of the 539 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: top ten, but I think Sweat goes into top ten 540 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: now for sure. Greedy Williams crushed it today on the forty, 541 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: so I think he's in the top ten pick and 542 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: then you're and then then your quarterbacks Threedio were supposed 543 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: to run slows. The Texans could get you at twenty three. Quinnin, Williams, 544 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa locked in top ten picks. I think Josh 545 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Allen's locked in is a top ten pick um. I 546 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: think those guys Sweat and Williams are top ten picks. 547 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Kyler is gonna be the I think he's gonna be 548 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: number one overall, just no matter whether it's the Cardinals 549 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: or not. And I think Haskins ends up going into 550 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: top ten because he's a quarterback. All right, Johnny's final 551 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: thoughts from the Combine Final. We're gonna be talking about 552 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: the Combine until next millennium. So there, and that thing 553 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys that I'm kind of jealous of, the 554 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: only thing I'm jealous of regarding the Cowboys post nineteen 555 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: ninety six. We'll have that for you as well. On 556 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: Texans Radio if you joined us late, we've been talking 557 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: about how Jadeveon Clowney has been franchise tagged by the 558 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Hughes in Texans. They're gonna try to work out a deal. 559 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: Other teams can make an offer that the Texans could match. 560 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: They could also get two number ones if another team 561 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: wants to sign Clowney. A lot of different things can happen. 562 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: They have until July fifteenth to work out in agreement. Otherwise, 563 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: the tag is him play. He can play with the 564 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: one year deal and hope for better things for him 565 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: next year. Now that it's a bad thing to make 566 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen million dollars a year. A lot of varying 567 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: opinions about this sort of stuff, but we've been talking 568 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: about it. Also a lot about the Combine and up 569 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com we have our Combine shows 570 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: from Wednesday, Thursday, Friday last week broadcasting from Indianapolis. Hey 571 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: also here in studio right now. You know, I'm big 572 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: involved with Junior Achievement, big involved. That's grammatically incorrect, but 573 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: bear with me here and the Hall of Achievements coming up. 574 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: I also have my Mark Vandomir Golf Classic coming up, 575 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: presented by Inspirity and SNH Manufacturing, and thank you Ron 576 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Carter for being the car sponsor to that. But Evan 577 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: Goods it is here from Deer Park Junior High. How's 578 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: it going, Evan good So we're gonna be co m 579 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: seeing the Hall of Achievement in a couple of weeks, 580 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: all right, So do you have do you have any 581 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: idea what we're gonna do here? Do you have any 582 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: idea what we're supposed to say? We just introduce a people, 583 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: all right, That's it. That's what I always say. That's 584 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing, right, Johnny, it's not hard. Just introduced a 585 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: bunch of Yeah, it's introduced a bunch of people say 586 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: what they do and where you go, you'll be better 587 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: than he is. I'll tell you. Yeah, I know, I 588 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to carry me. You're ready for that? 589 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: All right? Cool? All right? So Evans observing us. Today's 590 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: doing a junior achievement job shadow thing and you can 591 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: get involved in the junior achievement website Google Junior Achievement 592 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Southeast Texas. All right, Johnny Combine, let's wrap it up here. Corners. 593 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned Greedy Williams crushing it in Monday's activity at Indianapolis. 594 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Who else did well? And what? What's uh? Give me 595 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: a name or two that could be attractive to the 596 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Texans in the second round since the mocked draft consensus, 597 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: which is up on Houston Texans dot com. By the way, 598 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty's like eighth one or something like that. Everybody 599 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: has the Texas taken a tackle? Yeah, and the tackles 600 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: I thought performed pretty well. We've talked about Andre Dillar 601 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: and how he did. I thought the corners were a 602 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: little slower than I expected. There were there was something 603 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: that I was keeping my fingers crossed, like, YO, be faster. 604 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you remember this mark when 605 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: we went to Nashville and took on the Titans. Yeah, 606 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: we went to our one of our favorite places, the 607 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: Southern and we were watching Alabama just whitewashing SEC team. 608 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Do you remember who that was? It was Old Miss? 609 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: Remember that that was week two? Yeah, I remember that, 610 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and they just I mean it was brutal. They just 611 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: hammered him, and you're like, man Ole Miss is bad 612 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: defensively guests who had two of the fastest defensive back 613 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: times for all two Old Miss guys, and the fastest 614 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: ended up being a four two nine by Cedric Wood's 615 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: safety at Old Miss. That is flying, I mean that's flying. 616 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: And then Ken Webster ran a four three seven. So 617 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Zedric Woods ran the fastest time of anybody at to 618 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: combine Jamal Dean from Auburn who started at Ohio State, 619 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: he ran a four three zero and he's very intriguing. 620 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: In fact, I was texting our buddy Lands Airline and 621 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: I just said six one two h six ran four 622 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: three one. What does that sound like to you? It 623 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: sounds like our second game. It sounds like our second 624 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: rounder's what it sounds like, sounds exactly exactly like that. 625 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: I actually thought the safeties ran better the safeties. Darius 626 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky ran four three nine, which is a shocker. 627 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: Will Harris from BC four for one, one of my favorites. 628 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: Wan Thornhill from Virginia and four four two sheltered, Red 629 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Wine ran four four four, Jonathan Abram four four five, 630 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Armani Hooker four eight h Darniell Savage ran four three. 631 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: The safeties were flying. I thought the corners just I 632 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: didn't think the corners ran exceptionally well. Now, there were 633 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: some guys that decided not to run um at safety 634 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: in particular, and this year adderly who I really want 635 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: to see run. And the reason I say that is 636 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I think if this year runs well at his pro day, 637 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I think some teams might say, hey, wait a second, 638 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: maybe we should think about this guy's a corner instead 639 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: of a safety. And he didn't run today, so I 640 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: don't know what that was. On the way he runs, yeah, 641 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: just on just on how he's five eleven and a half, 642 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: so he's kind of in that mix. I mean, he'll 643 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: he'll knock your lights out. So he could play a 644 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: really good safety position too. If Tyron Matthew and Kareem 645 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: Jackson are both on other teams next year, hey, you 646 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: could see drafting a safety at least somewhere, if not 647 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: relatively high, No doubt, not with the first three picks, 648 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: unless somebody dropped that you absolutely loved. You know, I 649 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of us would feel pretty good with 650 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: Andrea hal and Justin Reid as you're starting too, But 651 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: we saw how many guys you needed last year just 652 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: to get through the season, so no knows how that 653 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: plays out. I mean a guy like Darnell Savage from 654 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Maryland is maybe the perfect example, a guy that could 655 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: drop down and play the nickel. I mean he could 656 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: play with those two guys. You leave Justin and Andrea 657 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: in the back, and you let and you let Darnell 658 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: Savage play the nickel role and play that role that 659 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson plays at four three six, I mean, that's 660 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: moving and then if you need him at safety, he 661 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: plays safety. So I do think there are some options 662 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: at safety. The corners I don't. I don't think they 663 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: ran exceptionally well, but a couple of guys I mentioned 664 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: one earlier WHI Jamel Dean from Auburn. I thought he 665 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: ran really well. The two guys Whood Clemson ran pretty well. 666 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Mark Fields ran four three seven, and Trayvon Mullin ran 667 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: four four six. Now, I think Mulin's a much better 668 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: player overall, but they're both of the height, weight speed 669 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: that I think the Texans would be looking for. The 670 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Other guy who was really intriguing to me that I 671 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: love is Jordan Brown from South Dakota State ran four 672 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: five one, but he's also six foot almost sixty one 673 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. That's a pretty good time for a 674 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: guy that size. But the guy from Penn State, Amani Rouire, 675 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: is a guy I didn't put it in in the 676 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred, and I really I struggled with that 677 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: because he's got everything you're looking for, but when I 678 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: watched him on the field, it just it just doesn't 679 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: come together for some reason. But he ran four four seven. 680 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: It's six one almost two hundred and ten pounds, so 681 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I think he's definitely gonna be a guy in the 682 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: mix for the Texans. So I'm gonna go back and 683 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: study him this week and see if I can match 684 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: up that four four seven with how he plays on 685 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: the field. I don't know that I see that, but 686 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: he ran really well. And then a local guy, Chris Boyd, 687 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: ran really well four four five. Now I think he 688 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: should go to safety, but I think he'd be a 689 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: way over safety. I just think at corner it's gonna 690 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: be really tough for him. But four four five for 691 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: Chris Boyd was very very good. Amani aru wire. I 692 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: don't like that, as I played by Fay Guy oru wire. 693 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: I've got rs and ws and I mean, are that's 694 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for me to spit out. I listened 695 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: to Steve Jones. I had a game in Nacodosius that 696 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I was doing, so on the way home, I was 697 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: listening to series Sex and Radio and Penn Staves playing 698 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Michigan State. They just call him amani. Yeah, they don't 699 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: go because it's very difficult. I always say it is 700 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: to young announcers and young Evan is listening to this. 701 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: When you have ws and rs and ells and all 702 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: in a row and it just it gets really jumbled up, 703 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: very hard to spit that out. Sometimes I have a 704 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: tongue twister that helps for that. Yeah, I'm sure you do. 705 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: You might you might have to say it. All right, 706 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it right now for now. It's not 707 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: it's not an actual it's I combined a basketball name 708 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: with some WS and rs. In football, Orlando will Ridge 709 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: will reportedly require require rewarding work as a wide receiver. 710 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: I can't even get through it. Orlando will Ridge will 711 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: reportedly require rewarding work as a wide receiver. See if 712 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: you say that really fast a bunch of times, you 713 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: will be fine. But now I got a new one, 714 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Amani or rue Ware. Yeah, it's tough. I'd be remiss 715 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: if I didn't mention the local guy that had the 716 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: best workout ne Versity Houston. And this is a guy 717 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: that I noticed in the summer. We've already talked about it, Oliver, Yeah, 718 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: we already talked about ed. Isaiah Johnson corner ran four 719 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: four flat, which is smoking because Isaiah Johnson's long rangey. 720 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: I mean he kind of fits that profile six two 721 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: o eight. It ran four to four flats, so I 722 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: would imagine he's definitely gonna be on the Texans radar 723 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: screen as well, with bigger, stronger, faster. I wanted to 724 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: see Lonnie Johnson run, well, he didn't run as well 725 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: as I wanted him to, but I think he came 726 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: in when do he come in at Lonnie Johnson's four 727 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: five two, that's still I mean, look Lonnie Johnson and 728 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: four five two, that's pretty darn good at a guy 729 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: that's his size too. So I do think stepping back, 730 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: the guys that I liked going in, I think ran okay, 731 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: but some of the higher profile guys didn't run as well. 732 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: Byra Murphy didn't run as well. Joe One Williams did 733 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: not run well at all. He ran four to six four, 734 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: but he's also six three and a half two hundred 735 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: and ten pounds, so and DeAndre Baker ran into four fives, 736 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: which I think some people were like, oh man, just 737 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: give him in four fours, even in the first rounder, 738 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: for sure, but he ran four five, and I think 739 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: teams are gonna be like, oh man, that's exactly what 740 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: we thought, all right. Why am I jealous of the 741 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? The only thing I'm jealous of regarding them 742 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: post nineteen ninety six, because you know, I'd love to 743 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: have five Super Bowl rings, of course, but the Texans 744 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: have more playoff wins than they do after that year, 745 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: and This is a thing I'm kind of jelly of, 746 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: is that they're reportedly going to play the Rams in 747 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: Hawaii in a preseason game. What's Hawaii? Yes? And what 748 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: there's talk about practicing in Hawaii prior to the game, Johnny, 749 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean of I mean, please can we get that gig? Come? 750 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Please get that gig going to Hawaii and practicing there. 751 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine Bill O'Brien in an a lowha shirt 752 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: at practice with a with a lay no I want 753 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: to I want to be to get off the plate 754 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: and the hula dancers are there, big kiss like getting 755 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: myself into I would pay every dime I have to 756 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: see that. Just please see the look on his face. 757 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: But they're going to way. You know this is I 758 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: mean that that's reported, so it's not official, and who knows, 759 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: but I just the thought of it. I know Aloha 760 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: Stadium is it total dump? Like if who cares? I 761 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: know who cares? But they won't play the Pro Bowl there? 762 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: If I'm the people of Hawaii, I don't. Whoever runs 763 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Aloha Stadium put some money into Alha Stadium so the 764 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: NFL comes back there for the Pro Bowl. You know 765 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: they want to, but they can't go back there because 766 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: the stadiums are total dump. The players want to go 767 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: back there because it's Hawaii. It's exotic, it's fun, it's Hawaii. 768 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: Help out the University of Hawaii. At the same time, Yes, 769 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: this is it's so funny. You brought this up because 770 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: earlier today and this is I was strolling I was 771 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: going through my my Twitter timeline and I happened to 772 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: see this beautiful picture and somebody tweeted a picture in it. 773 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: I was like, immediately, I thought, that's Hawaii. And my 774 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: immediate thought was, you know, we're going to the Greenbrier. 775 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: Why don't we do trading camp in Hawaii? Why don't 776 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: we go there? I had this thought, tell me this, Yeah, yeah, 777 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that doesn't cost too many bucks to go. 778 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: Just a little bit, just the just the little bit 779 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: on the age. You don't even need, you don't even 780 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: need rooms for the guys sleep on it. I'm sure 781 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: that'll go fine. It'll be fine. Let him sleep on 782 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: the beach. Nothing battle happened. How about the AAF using 783 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: the official in the sky this weekend to overturn, not 784 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: even overturn now to call a penalty that wasn't called 785 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: on the field. That's where we're going. That's where the 786 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: NFL is going. I mean, that's that's what these these leagues, 787 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: whether they know it or not, that's what they're doing. Yeah, 788 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: they're essentially acting as a testing ground for the NFL 789 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: to look at and go, you know what the af 790 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: that works, All right, let's go with it. That's essentially 791 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: what this is. The USFL gave you the red challenge flag. 792 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: The USFL did not give you a point conversion, but 793 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: they you were using it. They were usually college obviously 794 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: had it then, and the NFL is like, all right, 795 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: we gotta go to it. I think the NFL had it, 796 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: and you know, eons ago, like back in the dark ages. 797 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm talking like pre well, you know, you 798 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: know who had it, you know who the first you know, 799 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: the first league that had it was the AFL. The 800 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: ALDFL had AFL used it. Now. I don't know if 801 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: they used it all the time. I don't know if 802 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: every year they had it. I'm trying to remember, but 803 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they had they had the two 804 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: point play. They were the first to bring it into existence. 805 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: In any case, these leagues, these spring leagues whatever, these 806 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: other leagues, they can experiment with some stuff and you 807 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: can see if it works or not. This is one 808 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: of those things that could work. What happened between the 809 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: Rams and the Saints might not have happened with an 810 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: official in the sky able to call that penalty. I 811 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: just I think that's where we're going. I want to 812 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: say that when we were at the Combine, I heard 813 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: some rumblings about that happening them looking at something like that, 814 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: and I thought it was funny because one of the 815 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: one of the nights that we went out to dinner, 816 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: I happen to see a good friend of mine that 817 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: played college ball with who is a senior VP for 818 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, and I just asked him how things were 819 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: going when I ran into him a few years ago 820 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: and we were out to eat. I saw him and 821 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: he was with three other people at the table and 822 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: I went up to him. I'd just seen him at 823 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: one of our games and I went up to him 824 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: and he just was like hey, and like that's all 825 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: he said. I was like, okay, I didn't think much 826 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: of it, and I was like, well, that was kind 827 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: of weird. Usually would stand up and talk to me 828 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: a little bit. He told me later he was having 829 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: this contentious meeting with the officials, and so when I 830 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: saw him, I said, so you having any contentious meetings 831 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: with the officials, And he kind of just looked at 832 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: me and smiled, and he goes, you know, competition committee. 833 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's on it. Yeah, He's like Sean Payton can 834 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: make a can make a case for whatever needs to 835 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: happen to move this along. But I think the sky 836 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: raff or what are you're gonna call it sky omp 837 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, I think that I think we're 838 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: going there. I think we're absolutely going there. On the 839 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: way out. We could do a longer conversation on this, 840 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: since we just got back from the combine, but Peter 841 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: King talked about it, Mike Florial talked about it. The 842 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: possibility to move in the combine. It's been talked about 843 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: for years. But how about this idea of having the 844 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: medical examinations in Indie and having some of the on 845 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: field workouts somewhere else so you can move this thing 846 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: around like the draft, Like, I don't know if that works. 847 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: I think maybe that works better than moving the whole thing. 848 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: The you know, India is such a great working environment 849 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: for the leagues. Yea, for the league, the coaches, scouts, 850 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: the GM's, the players, everybody. I don't know if this happens, 851 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: but I think it's it's bound to happen at some 852 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: point because there's money in it, and cities will bid 853 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: and they'll make it attractive and everything else. Yeah, I 854 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: think the one thing that'll happen sooner than later. And 855 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: when I read that they were going to do the 856 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: medical examinations in the morning, my first thought was, Oh, 857 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna put the workouts at night and put that 858 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: on prime time. Yeah, that was my first thought. And 859 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that's probably step one in that process. Hey, 860 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: let's see how this does in prime time. I think 861 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: other cities would look at it and say, hey, you're 862 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: bringing all these heavy hitter NFL types into that city. 863 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: I think what's happened in Indianapolis. Because it's been there 864 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: so often, you have more and more people that are 865 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: accustomed to it. And I like Indie. I've always I've 866 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: said that I like the location, I'd like the changes 867 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: they made for us. I just I like it. And 868 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times when you like something, you don't 869 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: want to see it change. But then again you go 870 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: and wait a second, what if they move this to Hawaii? 871 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: What if they put the combine in Hawaii? What if 872 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: they did it out there? We got a week of 873 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: going to Combine Hawaii, all right, I'm in. I think 874 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: we need two weeks of preparation on location just to 875 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: be sure that we are accurately and totally prepared for 876 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: those broadcasts. Yes, check your budget. It's all for work. 877 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: It's really all for the good of work, Thank you, Nyan. 878 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: John Harris the busiest man in football right now. Okay, 879 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: maybe that's too much of a claim, but man, he's 880 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: got the Harris one hundred out, he's got observations from 881 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: the combine. It's all there in Houston, Texans dot Com 882 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: and the Texans app download that you can listen to 883 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: these shows. You can read all that great stuff, see 884 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: all the great videos from the combine and everything to 885 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: do with your Texans here in the offseason. And you 886 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: know the conversation is going to continue. Texans tagging Clowney today. 887 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna be talking about it all day 888 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: and night on Sports Radio six ten. So stick around, 889 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, have a great evening, and go Texans.