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Speaker 1: an editor at how Stuff Works, and today with me

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Speaker 1: is Jonathan Strickland, one of our writers. How do you

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Speaker 1: How's it going pretty good? So, um, today we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Android, and uh, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to disappoint you, Chris. We're not talking about humanoid

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Speaker 1: robots with no hearts like Josh and Chuck. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about We're gonna talk about Android, which is a

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Speaker 1: phone platform, a phone operating system in software stack that

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Speaker 1: is produced by Google or will be produced by Google,

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Speaker 1: as it has yet to hit the wild Actually, when

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Google Android, I thought you were talking about

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Speaker 1: Brent Spiner doing a web search. Yeah, unfortunately no, And

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know what that is,

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Speaker 1: go watch Star Trek next Generation. So we're talking smartphones, yes,

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Speaker 1: smartphones in general and Android in particular. The reason we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this is a rumor has hit the interwebs,

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Speaker 1: and the rumor is the from TM News which is

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Speaker 1: an unofficial blog about T Mobile and says that T

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Speaker 1: pre sale starting in mid September two eight, which is

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Speaker 1: news to a lot of people because the previous information

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Speaker 1: that's got a lot of people talking about androids in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be something of a coup for T Mobile,

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Speaker 1: largest United States provider, um and of course a T

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Speaker 1: and T has got the Apple iPhone, which the wait,

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Speaker 1: the what phone? Apple? You know they make computers and

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Speaker 1: that caused a lot of of of rumor millmongering as well.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, like about a year ago, I'd say,

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Speaker 1: Um they said, we're working on a software system, a

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Speaker 1: software stack for phones, but not We're not getting into

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Speaker 1: multiple manufacturers. We're not talking about Apple running OS ten

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Speaker 1: is that could run on phones from Nokia and Motorola

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Speaker 1: it could run on multiple carriers. So you wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: what Android is. It's it's important to kind of know

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Speaker 1: you know, might not might be just pitched right right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it remains to be seen now when we talk about developers, UM,

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Speaker 1: that's a really important part of the whole Android program.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it's it's probably the most important we've seen

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Speaker 1: that with the iPhone, with the new Application store. It's

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Speaker 1: So that's a very important part is to make your

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Speaker 1: That's something that that Apple refuses to do to allow

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Speaker 1: third party developers to do. And you could even do

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Speaker 1: things like let's say the native email client that comes

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Speaker 1: they've already got a head start, so that there there's

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Speaker 1: But it's, uh, it's definitely something that sets Android apart well.

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Speaker 1: that contest. That contest launched in in late two thousand

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Speaker 1: Not only did they say, you know, here you top fifty,

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Speaker 1: error on Google's part, definitely. Um, So yeah, that might

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