WEBVTT - Antoni Porowski’s Recipe for Connection

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Sunshine, Hey fam Today on the bright Side you

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<v Speaker 1>know and love him from Queer Eye, Anthony Borowski is here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting a little taste of his brand new nat

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<v Speaker 1>Geo show. Plus he's opening up about the people in

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<v Speaker 1>places that shaped his childhood, how he became an Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>winning TV host, and he's even revealing what's hanging in

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<v Speaker 1>his Museum of failure. It's Monday, February twenty fourth. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Simone Boyce.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Sunshine. On My Mind Monday is brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>by Laurel Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's on your mind today, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on my mind, Simone was I was just reading

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<v Speaker 2>this story in the New York Times. It's called three

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<v Speaker 2>Lessons for Living Well from the Dying, And before you

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<v Speaker 2>get upset, I just want to sort of reframe this

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<v Speaker 2>because I think there's a lot that we can learn

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<v Speaker 2>from death about how we can lead a more meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>Lifepletely agree, I'm I would never get upset about this

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<v Speaker 1>topic because I am that existential friend that brings up

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<v Speaker 1>death at the dinner table.

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<v Speaker 2>So lfg okay, well in that vein, would you do

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<v Speaker 2>anything differently. Now, if you knew you were at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of your life, would you make any different choices?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably? Yeah, I think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, i'd probably like quit my job and go

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<v Speaker 1>work for an NGO in a different country.

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah. Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the one question that this article digs into,

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<v Speaker 2>and the piece mentions that the one regret hurt over

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<v Speaker 2>and over and over again is letting relationships with her

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<v Speaker 2>People at the end of their lives wish they had

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<v Speaker 2>made more plans with their friends, reached out to that

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<v Speaker 2>old friend. Basically, they regret not prioritizing those relationships. And

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<v Speaker 2>it made me think about my grandfather because at the

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<v Speaker 2>very end of his life kept talking about his childhood

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<v Speaker 2>friend Maury, who lived down the street, and we kept

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get in contact with him, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>lost touch over the years, but it was so interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to me that that was the one thing he kept

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I was expecting that to be

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<v Speaker 1>the regret that people would think of the most I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the article mention anything about things we can start

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<v Speaker 1>doing today to ensure that we don't have these same

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<v Speaker 1>relational regrets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, The writers spoke with palliative and hospice care experts

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<v Speaker 2>about what they've learned from their patients, and they offered

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<v Speaker 2>this advice, and they're all sort of the platitudes.

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<v Speaker 3>That we would think of.

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<v Speaker 2>It's find joy in the ordinary, don't fret over the

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<v Speaker 2>small stuff, and consider what you've left unresolved. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's a relationship you've always wanted to repair, something you've

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do or see, And if you have a

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<v Speaker 2>wish that's within your reach, they say, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow is just not promised to any of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any relationships that you feel you've left unresolved?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I do, Thanks for asking me that. My relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with my grandmother is really complicated. And she's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eighty eight years old. She's actually coming to La

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<v Speaker 2>to visit. And I see so much of myself in her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of the people who taught me how to

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<v Speaker 2>love the arts and love different cultures and language and travel.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so interesting and she has such a jouad a

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<v Speaker 2>vive and at the same time, she's done some things

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<v Speaker 2>that have really hurt my mom, and so I hold

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<v Speaker 2>on to those and it's hard for me to have

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with her. I don't feel like there's been

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like we've had the I'm sorry. And

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<v Speaker 2>my mom keeps telling me that you can't wait for

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<v Speaker 2>an i'm sorry from an eighty eight year old person.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to like give that to yourself and and

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<v Speaker 2>move on. But I don't know. I do feel complicated

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<v Speaker 2>about that one. Do you have anybody in your life

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<v Speaker 2>that feels complicated unresolved.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some unresolved stuff with my own mom,

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<v Speaker 1>But I've found that I think when I became an

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<v Speaker 1>adult and a mother, I think she found it hard

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<v Speaker 1>to let go of the parent daughter relationship, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was hard for her to accept that she

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<v Speaker 1>can't control what I do anymore. But I've found that

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<v Speaker 1>just being extremely transparent with her and just saying like

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to fly. You know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to control me in this way anymore, or attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to that actually like led to a breakthrough for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's some more work to be done there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, something that we've talked about in the

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<v Speaker 1>past with just family members in general, not even speaking

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<v Speaker 1>about my mom, but it can be hard if like

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to go to therapy but the other people aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have that age old saying that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>person in the family that goes to therapy to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with all the.

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<v Speaker 3>People who won't. That's funny and very accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, the other thing they mentioned was don't fret

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<v Speaker 2>over the small stuff. Do you find yourself stewing over

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<v Speaker 2>like getting cut off in traffic or little things?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it's like I do get stressed

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<v Speaker 1>out with parenting stuff, and I think I'm getting better

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<v Speaker 1>about like letting go of that stress. I think also

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like my kids are getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>easier to manage with time. But you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw this video with Kristen Bell the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and she was talking about this time Share gave

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<v Speaker 1>her this really great advice, and I can't stop thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's like, if it doesn't matter in five years,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. So I'm trying to apply that to

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<v Speaker 1>my life a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>I love in that video that Melissa McCarthy goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish Share gave me advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's such a classic Melissa McCarthy Zinger so good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about the value of meaningful relationships, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we have a lot to learn from our guests today,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Parowski, whether he's transforming the lives of everyday heroes

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<v Speaker 1>as the resident food and wine expert on Queer Eye,

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<v Speaker 1>or traveling the world with celebrity guests taking them on

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<v Speaker 1>a culinary journey across the globe on his new National

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<v Speaker 1>geographic show, No Taste Like Home. I think Antony just

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<v Speaker 1>has this knack for genuine connection and making people feel

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<v Speaker 1>at ease, and that's one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>just love watching him and following his career. So I

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<v Speaker 1>watched his new show, No Taste Like Home with Michael

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<v Speaker 1>and we were both like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, this is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like a combination of like travel shows

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<v Speaker 1>like Parts Unknown, you know, Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it brings in this like genealogy and family history

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<v Speaker 1>re element and he's He's got some really great guests

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, like our girl Isa Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to Senegal together. This is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he is the most lovable, likable person,

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<v Speaker 2>like completely, He's so in His energy is so infectious.

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<v Speaker 2>So to see him travel around looking fabulous because he

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<v Speaker 2>always has great outfits with his great taste with other

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<v Speaker 2>awesome celebrities and like see the world and taste food

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<v Speaker 2>through his eyes and his mouth and his ears.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for this the show. It's like lightning

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<v Speaker 3>in a bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if you're looking for something that's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put you in a good mood at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day.

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<v Speaker 3>This show is exactly what the doctor ordered.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I'm so mad I missed this interview, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, ch'elle After the break our conversation with Anthony Parowski.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the bright Side, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for having me. Simone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you here. Okay, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about no taste like home. You were born

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<v Speaker 1>for this show.

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<v Speaker 3>You are so.

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<v Speaker 1>Magnetic on camera. You went to Senegal with Isray, You

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<v Speaker 1>went to the UK with Florence Pugh, Germany with James Marsden.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, talk about a dream job. International travel changes

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<v Speaker 1>me every time, and I'm curious how this show changed you.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it changes like understatement of the Century. I

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<v Speaker 5>think I just traveling in general and diversity, exposure to

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<v Speaker 5>question my belief system, my values, to see what values

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<v Speaker 5>present themselves in other cultures. I think there's just something

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<v Speaker 5>so healing and taking yourself out of your comfort zone

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<v Speaker 5>and being a little uncomfortable and just being like exposed

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<v Speaker 5>to different things. Like it's not yes, the food is

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<v Speaker 5>obviously fascinating, and it's you know, at the core of

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<v Speaker 5>how I, you know, relate to other people and show

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<v Speaker 5>my love and it's it's incredibly important. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>just travel in general, is it does it changes you

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<v Speaker 5>as a person and to feel like a citizen of

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<v Speaker 5>the earth and to understand how the world works is

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<v Speaker 5>so attractive in people that I meet, and it's something

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<v Speaker 5>that I think I kind of like strive for and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just drawn towards And.

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine traveling the world with these array changes

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<v Speaker 1>you as well.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, there are no words to describe just

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<v Speaker 1>how incredible she is. I loved your episode with her

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<v Speaker 1>in Senegal and the way you just like slid right

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<v Speaker 1>in there with the Senegalese aunties.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing is like, throw me in any type of

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<v Speaker 5>kitchen or room in general with any type of auntie,

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<v Speaker 5>grandma or a mom, and I'm like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Moth to a flame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to win their affection and their respect, even

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<v Speaker 5>if I have to be extra self deprecating and play

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<v Speaker 5>like the clown or the good student or the doting sun,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is, I'm up for it. I just like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know just powerful women are just so incredibly

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<v Speaker 5>attractive to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Are what are the conversations, the moments, the places that

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<v Speaker 1>are just hard to shake from this experience, There's.

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<v Speaker 5>So many, but because you mentioned Isa, like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 5>just there's so much in that episode alone that we covered.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was my first time in Senegal and to

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<v Speaker 5>land in San Luis, this beautiful coastal town and old

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<v Speaker 5>fishing village, to learn that their number one value is

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<v Speaker 5>sharing this concept of tadanga where you take what is

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<v Speaker 5>yours and you stay in your lane, and to learn

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<v Speaker 5>that the fishermen there. I believe it was fifty percent

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<v Speaker 5>of what they fish they can use, they can use

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<v Speaker 5>to sell to me, money for the family, twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>percent they consume for themselves, and twenty five percent is

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<v Speaker 5>meant to give to somebody who has less than you

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<v Speaker 5>and where that's like a standard cultural practice that's like

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<v Speaker 5>not written into law, but it's just custom and it's

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<v Speaker 5>respected across the board, I think, especially just with the

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<v Speaker 5>US and what the hell is going on in the

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<v Speaker 5>dumpster fire that we're in right now. Even though I'm

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<v Speaker 5>an optimist at heart, it's just eye opening and it

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<v Speaker 5>just puts everything in perspective and it's like life goes on.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a whole entire world going on there and people

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<v Speaker 5>just doing their best to make ends meet and to

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<v Speaker 5>continue living their lives. It's just like it's for me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like it's a drug. It's inspiring, it's everything. I

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<v Speaker 5>really mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wow, that concept is so beautiful of just sharing

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<v Speaker 1>being embedded into the very fabric of like the business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost so it feels abstract to me because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so radically different from how we live our lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can hear the optimism in your voice as

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<v Speaker 1>you speak. And I also whenever I watch you, I

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<v Speaker 1>just am. I marvel at your ability to connect with

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<v Speaker 1>people and this like deep well of empathy.

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<v Speaker 3>That I feel like you have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm curious, where did that knack for connection come from?

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<v Speaker 3>When? When did that start?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, to quote my therapist, if it's hysterical, it's probably historical.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like a good therapist.

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<v Speaker 5>She's Carol's the best. I don't think she likes it

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<v Speaker 5>when I use her full name, but awareness, I think

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<v Speaker 5>that I mean the connection for me when I look

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<v Speaker 5>back on like childhood memories and like the positive ones,

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<v Speaker 5>because I came from I would say, arguably like a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty dysfunctional household. The best moments that we had were

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<v Speaker 5>always at the dinner table or when my mother was

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<v Speaker 5>cooking and we were all kind of in her periphery.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's where that human connection happens. So my tide

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<v Speaker 5>to food definitely comes from there.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like I traveled with my dad this summer and

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<v Speaker 5>we went on a hiking trip, and like I thought

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<v Speaker 5>I was obsessed with people, but like with him, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's so pathological, Like he'll talk to any Uber

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<v Speaker 5>driver and tell him his entire life story within three minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love people. I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been on a journey of figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 5>like just be comfortable and like really enjoy being on

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<v Speaker 5>my own. But it's I love getting to know people,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it's you know, personally, professionally, friends, relationships, all of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I just like I adore hearing other people's stories. I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like we're just meant to connect to other humans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>during this short amount of time that we have here,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like it's what inspires me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could not relate to that more. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same way I grew up. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>only childs for most of my life, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>that and I also moved around a lot, so I

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<v Speaker 1>found that connecting with people, whether that was through humor

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<v Speaker 1>or vulnerability or trying on different identities, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>just became like a part of me and a part

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<v Speaker 1>of me that, as you said, can you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>the cause of a downfall. Let's say, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>lean into that too. But it also is like so

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<v Speaker 1>life giving to.

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<v Speaker 5>Men, the trying, like you said, trying different identities, there's

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<v Speaker 5>like a Taylor Swift line about like you're trying different

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<v Speaker 5>lives on. Yeah, I've never really thought of that, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's something that definitely moving around a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>I can relate to that. I went back and forth

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<v Speaker 5>between Canada and West Virginia when my parents split up

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<v Speaker 5>twice and got back together, and so it was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like I never really felt like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>the experience, but I feel like it's kind of relatable

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<v Speaker 5>to like an army brat syndrome of like moving around

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<v Speaker 5>in that sense and trying to to assimilate, especially when

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<v Speaker 5>you're an immigrant coming from another country. It's like you

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<v Speaker 5>shed the clothes, you pick on whatever is there just

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<v Speaker 5>so that you can fit in. You figure out how

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<v Speaker 5>to become a chameleon. And I used to like be

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<v Speaker 5>hard on myself for that part, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like that was the best that I was doing

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<v Speaker 5>at the time, just to figure out how to just

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<v Speaker 5>how to like assimilate, and in the end, you end

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<v Speaker 5>up I think, finding out who you really are, because

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<v Speaker 5>there are parts of it, like in any relationship that

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<v Speaker 5>you take on that you take with you, and there's

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<v Speaker 5>other stuff that you shed that you're like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 5>is like this isn't serving me anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you mentioned that you are the son of immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>and as I was watching this show, I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I would love to see you do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode about your own family history, like you be

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<v Speaker 1>the subject of one of these episodes and No Taste

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<v Speaker 1>like home, what do you think you would discover or

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything that you want to discover about your

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<v Speaker 1>own family history?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that I knew so much about myself and

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<v Speaker 5>my family going into this, and I realize with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously what you're dealing with, Uh, with No Taste, It's

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<v Speaker 5>like we have a research team. They spend three to

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<v Speaker 5>six months on every single episode. You can tell like

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<v Speaker 5>they do a deep die.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's impressive.

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<v Speaker 5>And it kind of made me realize like why, Like

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much that I don't know, Like why the

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<v Speaker 5>hell's cabbage so prominent in Polish cuisine? Where the hell

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<v Speaker 5>did perogis come from? We definitely didn't invent dumplings, like

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<v Speaker 5>we use crapes and so many things like that's clearly

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<v Speaker 5>French influence, so like where did that come about? And

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<v Speaker 5>then in terms of family history, I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 5>that both my grandfather as Catholics, were in concentration camps.

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<v Speaker 5>I know my father's mother fought in the Warsaw Uprising

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<v Speaker 5>in the Warsaw Ghetto during World War Two. There's like

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<v Speaker 5>his great uncle was a secretary to the Polish Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like kind of like our everyone's got like the

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<v Speaker 5>whole like royal family tire, like the famous Marie Antoinette story.

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<v Speaker 4>That's ours.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's not much else that I really know, and

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<v Speaker 5>so I think that there's definitely a lot to uncover

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<v Speaker 5>there because it's even making me think of Like with Isa,

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<v Speaker 5>I was a little nervous in that episode because she

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned like she goes to Senegal every year, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, shit, like we're gonna have to like

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<v Speaker 5>really find out some stuff that she doesn't know. But

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<v Speaker 5>to her point, she was like, when I come here,

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<v Speaker 5>I go to my aunties, I go to relatives. Like

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<v Speaker 5>you're sitting in people's homes and they're just stuffing you

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<v Speaker 5>with food and love and adoration and catching up a nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not actually out there in the streets sort of

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<v Speaker 5>like exploring the culture, getting to like understand how everything

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<v Speaker 5>works there and the same is the case for me

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<v Speaker 5>when I go to Poland. It's like we go from

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<v Speaker 5>one relative to another's and it's just like pickled hairing

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<v Speaker 5>after pickled haring, until you're just like a pickle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, well we everyone has a story, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and like everyone's family has a story. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of we kind of take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't often take the time to really do the

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive and understand whose shoulders were standing on.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's which are like ESA's words of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the episode with the Griot, with

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<v Speaker 5>this person who travels from town to town and like

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<v Speaker 5>recites your whole family history through oral tradition, like what

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<v Speaker 5>a what a beautiful thing. And I think a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people, I mean, there are a lot of reasons

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<v Speaker 5>why people don't, but I was thinking even the James

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<v Speaker 5>Marsden episode where we were in San Antonio, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>say that he was embarrassed about it, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>very humble about like mine's chicken fried steak, Like I

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<v Speaker 5>had a single mom, she had to feed the kids,

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<v Speaker 5>and like that was like cheap and cheerful and like

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<v Speaker 5>filled our bellies after like practice sports games.

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<v Speaker 4>And that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and as we start doing a deep dive, we

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<v Speaker 5>kind of learn that the history of just meet in

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<v Speaker 5>that part of Texas where his family emigrated to from Bavaria,

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<v Speaker 5>from Germany. The German immigrants were anti slavery and the

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<v Speaker 5>freed slaves. They kind of sort of like joined forces

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<v Speaker 5>because the Germans were excellent butchers, they couldn't cook for shit,

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<v Speaker 5>and the freed slaves were excellent pit masters, and both

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<v Speaker 5>of those forces joined into what is known today as barbecue,

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<v Speaker 5>which is the most iconically American thing. Nothing is really American,

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<v Speaker 5>it's all everything is on the shoulders of immigrants, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>And then taking a journey to Bavaria and noticing like duh,

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<v Speaker 5>of course chicken fried steak is a very close relative

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<v Speaker 5>of schnitzel, which is beloved here. So with anything, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the messaging there is sort of like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care how simple or how humble, or however your

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<v Speaker 5>emotional tie is to what a dish is. When you

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<v Speaker 5>start to do a deep dive, you'll realize that it's

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<v Speaker 5>so much more complex, and there's such a wealth of

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<v Speaker 5>knowledge of what was going on culturally, socially, politically when

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<v Speaker 5>you start to do that deep dive. So I just

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<v Speaker 5>encourage people to like and even myself and my friends

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<v Speaker 5>to just like get curious. Start asking the older people

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<v Speaker 5>you know at your family reunions who are like off

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<v Speaker 5>sitting in a corner while you're like socializing with your cousins.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, get those stories. Tell those stories. We have

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<v Speaker 5>to continue to tell them, especially if you're the child

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<v Speaker 5>of immigrants or even two generations away, because if we don't,

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<v Speaker 5>sorry to get like all into like current affairs, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, if we don't tell those stories, we start

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<v Speaker 5>to repeat the same patterns that we start to see

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<v Speaker 5>in corporation leaders up on stages making like certain hand

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<v Speaker 5>gestures and shit, and seeing that like we have to

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<v Speaker 5>to to make sure that we don't make those same mistakes.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like we have to continue preserving those stories in

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<v Speaker 5>those traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, curiosity is everything, everything everything. Yeah, It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>driving force of my career. When I think about the

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<v Speaker 1>dishes that define my childhood, you know, I think about

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's wild mushroom soup. I think about my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>apple cobbler, a recipe that's been passing.

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<v Speaker 4>Wild mushroom soup talking me through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish my mom was here so she could do

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<v Speaker 1>this justice. But it's like several different types of mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>some dried, some not dried, and you blend it up

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<v Speaker 1>and you add cream, and the soup looks terrible antony,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like concrete, but it is so rich and delicious,

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<v Speaker 1>and the final touch is a bit of sherry.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait did you go foraging when you were a kid? Like,

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<v Speaker 5>what was the deal? Why the love of wild mushrooms?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what? I did not go foraging.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think this story is like not as

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<v Speaker 1>romantic as I think it is. I'm sure my mom

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<v Speaker 1>just discovered it like through like Emerald, probably because he

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<v Speaker 1>had us in a choke hold.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, agreed, same, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now it becomes MyH of course, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's like that childhood memory, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you have that you can look back on,

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing that your mom made for you with

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<v Speaker 1>love and also like wild mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Suit, the sherry is perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to send it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the recipe We've got to take a quick break,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't go anywhere. We'll be right back to our

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Antony Parovski. And we're back with TV host

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<v Speaker 1>and culinary expert Anthony Perovski. Okay, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a jump here. I've read the story of how you

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<v Speaker 1>were cast on Queer Eye, but it's so wild I

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<v Speaker 1>almost don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hear it from you.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you don't believe everything you read? I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. I have to fact check it with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you tell me the story of how it all happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't talk about this for a few years because

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like it was kind of too fresh, and

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<v Speaker 5>I had this like weird fear when I got the

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<v Speaker 5>job that I was going to lose it somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Really like an imposter something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I try not to use it because Martha Stewart recently

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<v Speaker 5>was asked about imposter syndrome and she was like, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe in imposter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that is the most boss answer ever. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>forget about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Meanwhile, the entire introduction to my first cookbook is about

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<v Speaker 5>imposter syndrome. But whatever, but we grow, we changed, We

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:06.919
<v Speaker 5>evolved or we stayed the same. Who knows nature nurture,

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<v Speaker 5>But basically with Queer Eye, it was the type of

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<v Speaker 5>thing where I always wanted to be an actor. I like,

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<v Speaker 5>that was like kind of what I had my sight

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<v Speaker 5>set on. I moved to New York, I went to conservatory,

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<v Speaker 5>graduated after two years, and then all these years went by,

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<v Speaker 5>I worked as a waiter in different restaurants, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I started working as a personal assistant to Ted Allen,

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<v Speaker 5>Who'szog food and wine expert on Queer Eye.

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<v Speaker 4>Not knowing that I was literally.

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<v Speaker 5>Preparing myself for the role that I would eventually get

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<v Speaker 5>because there was no word of the the show was

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<v Speaker 5>still like a few years away from being rebooted, and

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<v Speaker 5>so I had friends of mine who kind of suggested, like,

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<v Speaker 5>you should like really consider the food space. And that

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<v Speaker 5>was something that was like very sacred and personal that

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<v Speaker 5>I never wanted to pursue in a professional way. And

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<v Speaker 5>then finally someone reached out and they were like Queer

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<v Speaker 5>Eyes being rebooted for Netflix. They wanted to be a

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<v Speaker 5>lot more documentary style, like would you consider doing this?

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, shit, I'm like food in a

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<v Speaker 5>professional way, I'm not a chef. I'm a home cook,

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<v Speaker 5>confident at what I do, but like I have friends

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<v Speaker 5>who are chefs, and it's like, you know. And the

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<v Speaker 5>other part was like my sexuality was something that was personal.

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.119
<v Speaker 5>I was in a committed relationship at the time, but

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 5>I kind of it was in a lot of rooms,

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 5>I was just assumed to be straight and I didn't

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 5>necessarily correct people either way. And then I decided to

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<v Speaker 5>audition for it anyway because I wasn't getting any younger

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<v Speaker 5>and I was tired of having literally three jobs going

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.360
<v Speaker 5>on at the same time, struggling actor, a personal assistant

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 5>and waiter and a manager at a sushi restaurant. And

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<v Speaker 5>I like went in. It was a big pool of

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 5>us in LA the pool got smaller and smaller, and

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<v Speaker 5>then they put me in a room with these four muppets.

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<v Speaker 5>This was the first time that I had that chemistry testing.

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 5>Chemistry testing is where they basically see how you gel

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 5>on camera, and we were like completing each other's sentences.

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 5>We were like really simpatico, like it was there was

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<v Speaker 5>like a good connection there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, could you kind of feel it in the room?

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<v Speaker 5>One hundred percent felt it, not only from the energy

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 5>of David Collins, the show creator, running around behind us

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 5>like excited, and I was like, oh, I'm like, this

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 5>is what I've never been able to accomplish in any

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 5>single audition. The year's coming too. I'm like, this is

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.159
<v Speaker 5>what it's like when it feels good. And so the

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 5>next day they slashed like two thirds of us, gave

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<v Speaker 5>us calls. We came back, they gave us notes. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>what to work on, what to do more of, less of,

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 5>and they narrowed it down to ten of us, and

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 5>it was like they told us that we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>do like a mock episode. They outfitted an suv with

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of go pros. They put me in the

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<v Speaker 5>car with four other guys that I'd never even chemistry

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 5>tested with, and they were really nice guys. And the

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 5>four that I was in the car with, they were like, guys,

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 5>pretty sure it's us. And I was like, in my mind,

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 5>i was like, I'm like, they say they want a

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 5>diverse cast. I'm like, we're all white, Like what's happening here.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm the most ethnic one and I'm like a super

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 5>white dude. I just have a Polish name. That's as

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.719
<v Speaker 5>close as we're getting to the diversity part here and

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 5>we like went and did the thing and recorded, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I went back to New York and then I

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 5>got a call from an incredible casting agent at ITV

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 5>who I adore, and she was like, look, you didn't

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 5>get it.

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 4>You didn't not get it.

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Which is the worst thing that you could as.

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<v Speaker 5>She was communicative, because you have many hundreds of auditions

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I've gone for where they never even gave me feedback.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 5>Tell me I was shit, tell me that I wasn't good,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 5>tell me that my nose wasn't right, just telling me

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 5>so that I can work on or maybe I don't

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 5>have to work on it. And it's just I'm not

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 5>what you were looking for, right, And so I was like, okay, great,

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 5>and she's like, so we're going to wait a little bit.

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 5>So we waited a few weeks and then she contacted

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 5>me again and Ali, I just said her name Ali, whatever,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 5>it's fine, Well, I love her.

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 4>Why am I being anonymous? Hey? Ali, Hey, Alie, we

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 4>love you.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 5>And she was like, so we want you to come

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 5>back to LA and you're going to audition against for

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 5>new food Experts. And I was in my mind internally,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I was like, no, they don't want me. I'm going

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 5>to stay here. And my partner at the time thankfully

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 5>looked at me and he was like, you, dude, like

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 5>you need a perspective shift. He's like, you're going into

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 5>this defeatus, Like they're all up against you, external locus

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 5>of control. It's like all their fault. He was like,

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.199
<v Speaker 5>maybe they just haven't had an opportunity to see you

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 5>and they saw something. If they're going to be flying

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 5>your ass back to La, so just like go fight

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 5>for it. And then my pathological competitiveness kicked in.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I went in.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd already had a group chat with the five of

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 5>us because we had like a really strong connection. And

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 5>I went in there and I did the thing, and

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 5>I made some I remember what we did, like a

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 5>mock episode, and I made pasta carbonera. Knowing that Tan

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 5>doesn't eat pork because he's Muslim, like an asshole, I

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 5>put panchetta in so it's just like bacon fat, you know,

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 5>like smelling up the kitchen. And he was such a

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 5>sweetheart about it and didn't eat it, but he was

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 5>really gracious. And then I ended up getting the part

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 5>like two weeks later.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it fun?

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>How life works, like you put so much energy and

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>time into this dream of becoming an actor. Yeah, and

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>then when you least expect it, quere I comes along.

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<v Speaker 5>A completely different medium, Right, I get it. Some people

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 5>are like, oh no, but like you got the entertainment

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 5>industry job, like you got the thing that you were

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 5>looking for, but it wasn't that wasn't it. And I've

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 5>said this before, but it's like, I feel like I

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 5>got the job that I needed and not the job

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 5>that I wanted, because it led me to leaning into something.

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 5>It was already my own internal low hanging fruit, my

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.679
<v Speaker 5>passion and my obsession for storytelling through food, which has

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 5>now evolved into other different projects, whether it's cookbooks, public speaking,

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 5>and now no tastes like home. Yeah, I just kind

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 5>of like I stopped. I had to stop fighting myself.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 3>So where are you at with the acting dream now?

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Is that something that's still in your heart?

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 5>It's apples and oranges to me, it's definitely still something

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 5>that like I still have the itch. I've done little

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 5>things here and there, like fun, meaningful projects. Sometimes it's

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 5>just something that I really love And there's there's a

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 5>really good one in the pipeline that I'm really excited

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 5>about that. I'll tell you when we stop recording. But

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm about to see Yeah, but it's fun. But it's

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 5>like it's it's it's definitely something that I still really enjoy.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 5>But I actually don't know because on one and it

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 5>was a dream for such a long time that it's like,

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 5>did I just not mourn the loss and it's my

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 5>muscle memory or is it something I really want to do.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.959
<v Speaker 5>I still think it's something I really want to do,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 5>but I think when the time is right, it's going

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 5>to happen. Yeah, I'm definitely you know, knock on wood

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 5>on the busier side right now and very grateful and happy.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean I'm patient.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 5>And what I've learned is like sorry for the culinary reference,

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 5>but it's like I want to low slow burn in

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 5>my career. I just want to kind of keep doing

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 5>a version of this for a really long time and

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 5>until I'm a wrinkly old raisin.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>And that's kind of the goal.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>And there's always room for reinvention. It's I'm never too late.

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you light up when you talk about it. So

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope this dream comes tru free.

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Thank you.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>From the outside, it seems like you've had this like

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>midas touch with your career right like ever re overnight

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>success is ten years in the making. But when people

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>see you on the outside, like you said, you're busy,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>You've got all these you've got a pack schedule. But

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that there are failures. There are so many

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>disappointments along the way. I don't know if you've seen

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>this trend on social called museum of failure. People talk

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>about like what's in their museum of failure. It's like

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a resume of failures, almost as opposed to a resume

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of successes. What would be in your museum of failure?

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>What are the the missed opportunities that come to mind

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>or the disappointments or failures along the way.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 5>I just want to clarify, like, and I know this

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 5>isn't what you're leaning towards, but I want to be

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 5>clear that when I say failure, I don't mean regret,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>because I genuinely even if sometimes I regret things in

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 5>the moment when they don't work out, and I get

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 5>like pissed off with myself in the end, like they

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 5>truly are. I can't believe I'm quoting Kim Kardashian, But

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 5>she's like everything is a is a lesson in life

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 5>or whatever it is that she says, and I.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Like really believe that.

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 5>But I would say the one that I keep on

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 5>because of, you know, my obsession and as a hopeless

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 5>romantic is it's relationships. Yeah, like I get, you know,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 5>it makes me a little emotional thinking about it because

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 5>it's like, I'm so grateful for all the ones that

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 5>I have, but it's like I fall deeply and I

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 5>try to give all of myself in every capacity and

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 5>when it doesn't work out, and it hasn't worked out

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 5>for a multitude of reasons, and it's never black and white,

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 5>it's always complex. I you know, it's that thing of

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 5>where it feels like a failure and where I kind

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 5>of have to reconfigure my thinking and shift my perspective.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 5>Is that I realize that the hardest thing with any

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 5>relationship ending, even with friendships, I would say, and even

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 5>with family members, because I have family members that I'm

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 5>no longer in contact with who are part of my

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 5>immediate family growing up and they were there every single

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 5>day and now we have nothing, and it's longing for

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 5>all the things that never came to be. I am

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 5>a nostalgic person. But it's all the plan. Whether there

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 5>were plans that that you shared with this specific person

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 5>or not doesn't really matter. It's also like my own

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 5>imaginative brain and my heart and the stuff that I

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 5>kind of envision for the future and mourning that where

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 5>it's sort of like, so that's the closest thing I

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 5>would say, where the thing that yeah, the thing that

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 5>I have to actively work on.

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you for sharing that.

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I know that's really painful to think about the things

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>that you envisioned with someone that didn't come true. What

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>do you envision from love in your life? Like?

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 3>What what do you want?

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Damn, let's fucking go.

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I I wanna. I want to make sure

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 5>that I feel loved and that I don't have to

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 5>question it. And that's not about the person, whether it's relationship,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 5>family member, or friend, but it's also my own side

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 5>of my own abandonment issues and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 5>where I just feel like safe and love and comfortable

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 5>enough to be my own person. And the most important

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 5>thing for me that I've learned. I think in the

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 5>past decade, I've been going to therapy since I was seventeen,

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 5>But the past decade, I'm realizing that I've kind of

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 5>acknowledged the fact that it is so paramount for me

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 5>to make sure that I feel seen for who I

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 5>really am.

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>That's all we want, that's all everybody wants.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 5>If I get mischaracterized or misjudged, And that's been a

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 5>massive lesson having a public facing job where people make

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot of assumptions about you, and even in my

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 5>personal life with people when someone doesn't see me for

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 5>who I really am or my intentions. And I'm not

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 5>saying that I'm perfect, and I make mistakes all all

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the time. But when I'm when I'm seen for who

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 5>I really am, that's when I feel the most safe.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 5>And I have that with very close friends of mine

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 5>who just like never question my intentions. Yeah, and there's

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing more beautiful. And that's like a warm cup

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 5>of like brown tea in front of a fireplace, you know,

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 5>on like a soft blanket, Like there's nothing that feels

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 5>more comforting and nurturing than that.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I look back on my life and I when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about the times where romantic love wasn't present, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful for the friendships that showed me that unconditional love.

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<v Speaker 3>And you kid, you're a judgment of.

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<v Speaker 5>Course, of course, yeah you can be. I call it

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<v Speaker 5>my board of directors.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so good. That's so good.

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<v Speaker 5>My good friend Anna taught me that one. She's like,

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<v Speaker 5>if I have like a life situation, She's like, consult

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<v Speaker 5>your board of directors. Yeah, that's my advice that no

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<v Speaker 5>one asked for. It is like, make sure you have

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<v Speaker 5>like a solid ass boarded directors. Those people are going

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<v Speaker 5>to keep you in check, keep your ego in check.

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<v Speaker 4>The ones who are going to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Brutally honest with you no matter what, even if it's

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<v Speaker 5>a little even if it's a little painful.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's what we should aspire to in our lives.

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<v Speaker 5>It's less about the specific romance or the family or

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 5>the friends, but it's like a mix of all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>How big is your board of directors? You tend to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it small or I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Say it's probably about like I have like five or six,

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<v Speaker 5>like a solid perfect size.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's also the perfect dinner party size.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing drives me more crazy than like making dinner for

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<v Speaker 5>ten people.

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<v Speaker 4>Is thank you, Mi Zerre six max.

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<v Speaker 5>Unless it's like two different types of pasta, that's fine,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 5>but like dinner table conversations, you end up having multiple

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 5>conversations going on simultaneously. I don't like going too restaurants

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<v Speaker 5>unless it's like a work thing where it's like more

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<v Speaker 5>than six people.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Same because you like you'd lose, you lose.

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<v Speaker 5>The plot, and then you have to focus on the

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<v Speaker 5>person on your left for the first course and then

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<v Speaker 5>on the right for the If you're following Tiffany's Book

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<v Speaker 5>of Manners like, it just becomes a dumpster fire.

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<v Speaker 4>No. No, it's too overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so weird about my birthday. I'm like, no large

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>parties six people max. Yeah, and I'll do like three

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>separate parties of like four to six people. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to connect, correct from my opinion. To

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<v Speaker 1>wrap things up today, Anthony, I want to do a

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<v Speaker 1>taste test with you. It's not your average taste test, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not hard to tell that you know your

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<v Speaker 1>way around a set of dumb bells, right. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that we both love our protein forward snacks, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>brought a few for us to try today and rate together.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I'm shopping for protein snacks, I have to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they pass the gag test, like, because a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of them they just well, yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like protein bars.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, ninety nine point nine percent of them are mealy

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<v Speaker 5>and like they leave your stomach feeling weird afterwards, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's like I'm getting the protein, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>a mess afterwards.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the point. What's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I've brought some of my favorites and then

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<v Speaker 1>some new ones that I haven't tried.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm curious how many I know and how many

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So our right side bessies who listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>show know how much I love my chicken chips.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Look sit me cross eyed when I bring up these

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 5>wilds same they gaslight us because it makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, is it like, is it like poor cracklings?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>I know these intimately I have. I'm in a long

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 5>term relationship with whoever runs their social media. They send

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<v Speaker 5>me the new flavors when they try them out.

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<v Speaker 4>Wild. May I open these? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>We're cracking open some wild protein chips. This is actually

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<v Speaker 1>like my airplane snack. If they have them in the

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.879
<v Speaker 1>in the airport, I usually buy these or I bring

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<v Speaker 1>up with me. My two favorite flavors are Buffalo or

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville Hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you're a spice girl, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what they slap?

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 3>Here's through like four or five in his mouth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>left Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 4>I eat them like pringles.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you tried National Hot?

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<v Speaker 4>No, try National Hot? Okay They're not too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're not okay, Yeah, but the Buffalo, I would say,

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>is like a great entry point for anyone wanting to

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a good dry heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, have you tried these? These are peetos?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, These I will say are not as the macros

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>aren't as strong.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got about four four grams of protein.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, so these are petos A jam of junk

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 5>food tastes. Its plant based, crunchy, cheese less puffs.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I need a little more cheesy essence

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<v Speaker 3>in there.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, the flavor intensity is probably like a solid six

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<v Speaker 5>out of ten. Yeah, but what I'm impressed with is

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 5>the texture. It's light as light as it's light the

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 5>way crappy junk food is. And it's airy and it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't feel too mealy, you know when they feel melli

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 5>and there's like that grit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not terrible. Would I would five out of ten.

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<v Speaker 5>He's going back to a har mag of these on

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<v Speaker 5>a flight, I wouldn't complain.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. It's true. I would take that on a fight.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not extremely high in sodium, which is great. Mm

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 5>hmmm because that I always checked for. Yep Pa and

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<v Speaker 5>lentil flour are good. I like it when they mix

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 5>it with with fava bean as well, because just pee

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 5>alone will like mess up your stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of really good ingredients. There's no like weird

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 4>fillery stuff. Wow, Oh you're teaching me things. I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Next we're getting into a no cow bar chocolate caramel

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>peanut protein snack bar. I am a dairy free girly,

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>so I only buy like plant protein.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're gonna try it by to this. Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Now it's a no for me.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's gonna accuse us of being delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't pass the gag test.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that mealiness.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I know. Can you make can you make a protein bar?

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<v Speaker 4>I have tried the one.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I'm one of these like TikTok shops

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 5>right now. But the one that i've actually the taste

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 5>is okay, but it has a shocking I think it

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<v Speaker 5>has thirty or forty grams of protein in it and

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<v Speaker 5>the lowest amount of calories, and for what it is,

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't have a shocking amount of ingredients.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you heard of David Bar?

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you know RX bars?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I like started our X bars, sold the company

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 5>and now he started as David Bar and it's the

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 5>bar on the market with the most amount of protein.

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<v Speaker 5>Full disclosure, I've never had a delicious protein bar where

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, damn, Like I could really use that protein

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 5>bar right now. But sometimes it's like I'm eating a

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 5>salad I didn't have time to like cook salmon or

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 5>whatever it is, and I need to get my protein

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 5>and I like finish off with that because it kind

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 5>of feels like a dessert. Yeah, that bar is really

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 5>good because it gets like your protein fix and you

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<v Speaker 5>stay full for longer. Okay, wait, can I tell you? Okay,

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 5>since you like you like sweets dessert? Yes, have you

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 5>heard of Gselle's Bakery No vegan, gluten free, dairy free,

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 5>and something else free.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>It's here in La.

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<v Speaker 5>Here in La they sell it. She has her shop.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know where it is. I've ordered it freeze dried,

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<v Speaker 5>like freezer packed to New York. There's an oatmeal, peanut

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 5>butter and jelly bar. There's a Keto chocolate fudge brownie,

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 5>really good macro. She has a protein bar that I

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 5>haven't tried yet. It's delicious and it's surprisingly like really

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 5>good for what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I can't wait to try this, considering.

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 5>There's no like like dairy fat and all that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff incorporated.

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<v Speaker 3>I love cake so much. Cake is like part my identity.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's your favorite, like birthday cake, describe it. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>making you one and I'm bringing it to you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom, Oh my gosh, Sweet Lady Jane. Their triple berry cake. Okay,

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that has like it's just white cake but berries in

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the middle, and then like that really light whipped cream. O.

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<v Speaker 4>Love that.

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Also Susie Cake celebration cake. Have you had Susie Cake? Oh,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you have to try Susi Cakes so good.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And then red velvet. Those are my top three. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the diet of like an eight year old child.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I love it? Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about balance. For me. It's vanilla and strawberry for.

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<v Speaker 5>A cake of vanilla cake with like a good little

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<v Speaker 5>like a crempat situation and just like a good strawberry

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 5>jam or even fresh preserved strawberries like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>We covered so much ground today, Anthony, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me. This is we

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<v Speaker 5>really did cover everything you really did.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Barovski is an Emmy winning producer, TV host, culinary expert,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and New York Times best selling author. His new show,

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<v Speaker 1>No Taste Like Home is out now.

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<v Speaker 3>On That's it for today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>all about her new docuseries Denise Richards and her Wild Things.

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