1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Strange Arrivals is a production of I Heart three D 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: audio for full exposure. Lissimuth had fiends. We know now 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: that in the early years of the twentieth century this 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: world was being watched closely by intelligences greater than man's, 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: yet as mortal as his own. We know now that 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: as human beings busy themselves about their various concerns, they 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: were scrutinized and studdied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: man with a microscope might scrutinize the transient creatures that 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacence, 10 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: people went to and fro of the earth about their 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: little affairs, serene in the assurance of their dominion over 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: this small spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which, by chance 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: or design man has inherited out of the dark mystery 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: of time and space. Yet across an immense ethereal goat 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: minds that are to our minds as always that are 16 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the beasts in the jungle. Intellects vast, cool and unsympathetic, 17 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: regarded this birth with envious eyes, and slowly and sure 18 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: they drew their plans against US. If, like we're doing here, 19 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: you look at the UFO era in the United States 20 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: is a developing modern legend, then one of the protagonists 21 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: is Alan Heinek. Heinik, who he met in the last episode, 22 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: was the consulting scientists for Project Blue Book, and in 23 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: that capacity was deeply involved in the early years of 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: official investigation into UFO reports. But what really makes him 25 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: noteworthy in this context is that he went from a 26 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: vowed skeptic at the beginning of his work too, if 27 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: not exactly endorsing the view that extraterrestrials for visiting Earth, 28 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: certainly making the case that the UFO phenomenon was real 29 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and required scientific scrutiny. I'm Toby Ball and this is 30 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Strange Arrivals. Episode six quicksand In Joseph Campbell, a professor 31 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: of literature at Sarah Lawrence College, published his opus of 32 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: comparative mythology, The Hero with a Thousand Faces. In it, 33 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: he described a type of folk narrative he called the 34 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: hero's journey. Like the US quote, a hero ventures forth 35 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: from the world of common day into a region of 36 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: supernatural wonder. Fabulous forces are there encountered, and a decisive 37 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: victory is one. The hero comes back from this mysterious 38 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow 39 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: man end quote. Campbell thought that mythic tales across cultures 40 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: and time followed basic narrative patterns. One of these was 41 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the hero's journey. I'm not going to make the case 42 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: that Alan Heinik is a hero in the usual sense, 43 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: though I know that many people consider him to be 44 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: just that. But the way that his career has been 45 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: positioned in UFO lore adheres to the hero's journey story. 46 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: He has called from his job in the ordinary world, 47 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: enters the strange world of UFO, encounters and emerges with 48 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: a message that UFOs are real, even if he doesn't 49 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: know exactly what they are. So it's this journey that 50 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,279 Speaker 1: we are going to follow over the next few episodes, 51 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: how Heineck's outlook towards UFOs changed, and how that coincided 52 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: with the winding down of Project Blue Book. Heineck story 53 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: begins in Chicago, where he was raised by his parents, 54 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: who are Czech emigres. When he was about eight years old, 55 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: he had scarlet fever and he was a voracious reader. 56 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: He read every book in the house, and his parents 57 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: would go to neighbors to ask if they could borrow 58 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: books from neighbors author Mark O'Connell, and one of the 59 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: books ended up being an astronomy textbook. So Heinech read 60 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: that from cover to cover and he was completely entranced 61 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: by the world of stars and planets, and he says 62 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: it at a j he was pretty sure that's what 63 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: he wanted to do with his life. And then he, 64 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, he went to college and studied astrophysics and 65 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: became a professor of astronomy, first at the Ohio State University, 66 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: later on at both Harvard and then Northwestern in Evanston, Illinois. 67 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: So his his whole life was pretty much a straight 68 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: shot between getting that astronomy book when he was sicking 69 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: bed at a j and then going to you know, 70 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: being a really successful and very very well known and 71 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: highly respected astronomer in the fields of academia. But it's 72 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: his work on UFOs that he is best known for. 73 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: Here's Heinik in the radio interview on w i n 74 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: S describing how he came to consult with the Air 75 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Force on UFOs sightings. When how did you get involved 76 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: with UFOs? Price by accidents and by for property. Really, 77 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I happened to be teaching astronomy at Ohio State University, 78 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: which is just a two miles from Dayton. And when 79 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: the science suffer um era really began in seven, the 80 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: responsibility for kicking it out and monitoring it was given 81 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: to the Air Force in the head right field and 82 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: maybe didn't cunomer to help pass the judgment as to 83 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: how many of the reports could be attributed to meteors, 84 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: ours planers, go forth, and I just happened to be 85 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: a handy astronomer, and I, well, you might say, the 86 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: one thing led to another. I became interested in some 87 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: of the really oddball cases that we clearly didn't have 88 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: an astronomical explanation, and my curiosity with the rouses too 89 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: how those might be explained. Heinik was contracted at the 90 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: beginning of the Air Force's investigation into UFOs when it 91 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: was known as Projects Signed. He came in with the 92 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: assumption that the job of explaining away UFO sightings would 93 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: be relatively straightforward word and this turned out to be 94 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: true in the vast majority of cases. As part of 95 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Projects Signed. Heinich looks to this stack of UFO reports 96 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and at the end he comes to the conclusion that 97 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: he's able to explain away about of these reports. They're 98 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: either misidentifications of the planet Venus or the star ar tourists, 99 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: or it's a meteor shower, or it's a sun dog. 100 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: And the leftover he's not too concerned about those because 101 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: he feels like, well, if I had enough time and resources, 102 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: and I had a staff working with me, we could 103 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: probably get to the bottom of those other as well 104 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: and explain them away. Heinik did his work for Projects Sign, 105 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: got paid, and that was it for a couple of years. 106 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: During that time, Projects Signed became Project Grudge, then Project 107 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: blue Book, the name it operated under until the Air 108 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Force officially ended UFO investigations at the end of the 109 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. But in the early nineteen fifties, the Air 110 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Force realized that they needed Heinich again. The director of 111 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Project Blue Book comes back to visit Heineck at the 112 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: university and says, Hey, guess what those UFOs that we 113 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: all laughed about a couple of years ago, They never 114 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: went anywhere. We still have stacks of reports, and because 115 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: you did such a good job with this two years ago, 116 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: we'd like to rehire you too, to do what you 117 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: did last time, go through all these reports and explain 118 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: away as many of them as you can as genuine 119 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: astronomical events and objects. And Heinek accepts the job and 120 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: he starts going through these reports, and again he's able 121 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: to explain away about them pretty handily. But it occurs 122 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: to him that, wow, this is now like three plus 123 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: years since I first started looking at these reports, and 124 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: there's a very consistent year after year that I can't explain. 125 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: This new collection of data showing that cases weren't easily explained. 126 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Changed Heine's thinking a little. He no longer assumed that 127 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: if given time, he'd be able to explain them all away. 128 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: Nick started thinking, well, I need to start looking at 129 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: these in a different way. I need to start looking 130 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: at these as sort of a scientific puzzle and applying 131 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: scientific research methods to, you know, trying to determine what 132 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: these things are. So Heinek decided that he would look 133 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: at those of cases that he wasn't able to explain. 134 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Those became his focus on blue Buck, and he began 135 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: to try to direct blue Bucks resources towards focusing on 136 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: those cases specifically. But these cases were not the priority 137 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: for Heine's bosses in the Air Force. Hinik came to 138 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: feel that his attempts to focus resources on difficult to 139 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: explain cases, we're stymied from above. The exceptions were a 140 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: small number of cases that broke through to the popular media, 141 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: newspapers or the nightly news. There'd be so much pressure 142 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: on the Air Force to come up with an answer 143 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: that they would reluctantly say, Okay, go to Albuquerque, Okay, 144 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: go to ann Arbor, figure out what happened, and take 145 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: care of it. Albuquerque was the Lonnie Zamora case that 146 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: we looked at in the last episode. Ann Arbor was 147 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: an even more confounding case, one that would change the 148 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: trajectory of Heineck's journey into UFO investigations. In March of 149 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, there was a wave of UFO sightings 150 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: that were concentrated in southeast Michigan, but we're part of 151 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a larger wave, almost a three year sort of peak 152 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: of sightings that sort of swept from northeast Ohio all 153 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: the way up to the upper peninsul of Michigan and Wisconsin. 154 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: Host of the Saucer Life podcast, Aaron Gullias and in 155 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: March of nineteen sixty six, there were sightings in southeast 156 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Michigan centered around the communities of Dexter and Hillsdale, Hillsdale 157 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: College in particular, and the sightings began at the family 158 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: farm of a man named Frank Manor. Frank Manner owned 159 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: a farm in the town of Dexter. On the night 160 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: of March his family saw lights coming from the swamp 161 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: near his house. One night, a farm family saw some 162 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: strange lights in the swamp down below their house, and 163 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: the father and son went out to find out what 164 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: was in the swamp, and they ended up seeing all 165 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: sorts of strange lights that were moving around strangely, seeming 166 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: to hover or lift off and then settle back down again. 167 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: The lights would disappear from one part of the swamp 168 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: and reappear in another part of the swamp. From w 169 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: j R Radio in Detroit, eight four year seven year 170 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: old prime matter of Farmer and his nineteen year old 171 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: son Ronalds said they approached within a hundred yards of 172 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: austrain the object excited last night. They said it lay 173 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: in a swamp of head pole setting lights on each end. 174 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: Manner said it was fitted like coral rock kind about 175 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: the length of the car. He said, it's shapeless, like 176 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: that of a football. Matter said his son then said, 177 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: look at that horrible thing in the craft vanished. They 178 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: called the authorities and the local authorities and Dexter came 179 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: out and took statements. Reports went out to the local newspapers, 180 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: and the next day there were people sort of camped 181 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: out waiting for another sighting. Washington County Sheriff Doug Harvey 182 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: investigated the scene. Although he was unable to find any 183 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: evidence of a landing, the sheer number of reported sightings 184 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: had him convinced that there was something in the skies here. 185 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Harvey talks with newsman William Harris for Detroit radio station 186 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: w j R H was completed the investigation, all of 187 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: seen under fighting life. They're all to be discover We've 188 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: found nothing out there. There's no indication that every not 189 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: a word to come down or the mister manners. So 190 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: they come down where my officers stated in the area 191 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: when it come down, also they got your kind of 192 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: picked up nothing. There was all flap grad flap brodt 193 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: very then to indicate sping in lander Breck whatever. Do 194 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: you have any series of the hoppers might be I 195 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: wish I did. I wish handful man that I I don't. 196 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: I were a little doubt for first way first sighting 197 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: this among the seven teams we sided with first one. 198 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: My men did that again, only eight teens, and then 199 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: last night and now we've got too many people, too 200 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: many train officers. They have also seen that. So I 201 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: my daughter is gone. I know these teens things, what 202 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: are they? They don't know. So while the manner citing 203 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: attracted news coverage, it wasn't a nice lated incident. Others 204 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: had seen lights or even objects. In previous days. You 205 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: had a number of people, including sheriff's deputies, seeing things 206 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: in the sky, not just lights, but also sort of 207 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: structured craft, sort of football shaped things with what was 208 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: described as a quilted surface, almost like a waffle pattern, 209 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: antenna sticking off it, and lights around the edge of 210 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: the craft. And these craft were, you know, like nothing 211 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: the witnesses had ever seen. And then came another sighting 212 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that seemed to erase any doubt that something was going on. 213 00:14:39,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: After the break. In the spring of nineteen southern Michigan 214 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: was hit with a rash of strange sightings, including ones 215 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: with multiple witnesses, but there had been no mass sighting, 216 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: an event witnessed by a large group of people, an 217 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: event that could not be brushed aside as confusion or misinterpretation. 218 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: But that changed. On the night of March one, there 219 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: were a number of young women in a dorm at 220 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Hillsdale College not too far away who saw some strange 221 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: lights in the sky. And you know, it was one 222 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: of these mass sightings where you have dozens of people 223 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: seeing the same thing at the same time. So you've 224 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: got like eighty seven women in this dorm, all looking 225 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: out of their windows at these strange lights in the 226 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: swamp down below, and they call in the county Civil 227 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Service agent and he takes one look at these lights 228 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: and says, well, that's obviously a vehicle. That's obviously a spaceship. 229 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: Of course, he had none he had no basis for 230 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: saying that, but that's what he said, and that was 231 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: the you know, that was what the story became, was, Wow, 232 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: we've had these multiple sightings of spaceships in Michigan. That 233 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: County Civil Service agent was William Van Horne. Here he 234 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: is talking with w j R News. To be on 235 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: the surface of the earth, on the ground However, I 236 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: don't feel that it was, because it moved very freely, 237 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: uh from left to right and right to left at 238 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: various times which it would be impossible great type of 239 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: vehicle on we os or on the ground to move 240 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: that moves because of the boggy maggy note than the 241 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: marching port in there. But at the time that I 242 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: first observed it would say that on the right was 243 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: the quite a dem orange new colored light and to 244 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the left was quite a kind of dem quite light, 245 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: and it was a approximately twenty five feet in between 246 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: the two lights. Uh. Now I was observing this with binocuvers, 247 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: and at this distance after darkness, pretty hard to estimate 248 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: the distance there. It would at time rise from its 249 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: position just over the surface, and I'm a rising lights 250 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: to become more brilliant. And at the time from our 251 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: minute airport here we had a beacon which was throwing 252 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: out a beam or light as a beacon does around 253 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the area, and the vehicles seem to go up and 254 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: as it would get up to a type of approximate 255 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: heard gun fifty here the moudemn mort beam a light 256 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: be keep staying there and then would descend back down. 257 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: In other words, it was appeared to me that it 258 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: was attempting to stay out of this beam a light 259 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: that was coming around. Among the eighty seven student witnesses 260 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: at Hills l College was Josephine Wilson, an eighteen year 261 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: old from Cleveland. Well, I never leave, That's when I thought. 262 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: And I saw this. It wasn't anything horrendous. I mean 263 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: nothing that's like a big ball of fire in front 264 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: of your eyes. But it was very sat and after 265 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: lot at the two hours and seeing it however around 266 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: and change light and seeing it glow. Um, I don't 267 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna plan so much in our and say definitely, definitely, 268 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: you know such thing as remember in last week's episode, 269 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: when the Robertson panel expressed concern about the possible psychological 270 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: effects UFOs might cause. They were also concerned that the 271 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Soviet Union might be able to use UFOs to manipulate 272 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: the American public to instill panic. Here in Michigan seemed 273 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: to be a case where these concerns might become a reality. 274 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: With this many people seeing UFOs in a small area 275 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: and over a small period of time, how would the 276 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: public react. There is a long history of public officials 277 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: being afraid of public panic. My name is Jesse Walker. 278 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: I worked at Reason magazine. I wrote The United States 279 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: of Paranoia of conspiracy theory, and I also wrote another 280 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: book about the history of radio. And the interesting thing 281 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: is that in that Cold War moment, I mean a 282 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: little bit later than what you're talking about, I think 283 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: some sociologists went to investigate how people behave I mean 284 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: natural disasters, you know, sort of the classic time people 285 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: expect mass panic, and they found that panic is rare. 286 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: People sort of moved towards cooperation. Crime declines usually as 287 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: opposed to like the orgy of looting. I mean, there's 288 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: a few times there's been like looting and stuff that's 289 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: basically amounts to a disaster coinciding with a riot. And 290 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: the further follow up studies looked at as another context, 291 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, like you technological disasters and so on. In 292 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: other words, studies eventually showed that a full on public 293 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: panic was a very unlikely outcome, regardless of the circumstances. 294 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: But this wasn't known when the Robertson Panel issued its 295 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: report in ninety three. In six while studies of the 296 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: sociology of disaster were underway, the conclusions were not well known. 297 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: The fear of mass panic was still real. A lot 298 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: of books also at that point still believed the myth 299 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: of mass panic. After the War the World's broadcast, so 300 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: in n Um there was a special Halloween edition of 301 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: the Mercury Theater on the air, which was Cource and 302 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: wells Is radio drama program, and they did an adaptation 303 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: of War of the World. The enemy is now inside 304 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: about the palace sades five five great matines. First one 305 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: is crossing the river. I can see it from here, waiting, 306 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: waiting the Hudson like a man waiting through a brook 307 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: bullets and has handed me Fran. Cylinders are falling all 308 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: over the country, one outside of Buffalo, one in Chicago. 309 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: They Lewis seemed to be timed in space. Now the 310 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: first machine reaches the shore, it is widely believed that 311 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: it's set off a mass panic. You know, people are 312 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: running out in the streets being afraid that the you know, 313 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: the world was coming to an end. Basically, several people 314 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: reported to St. Michael's Hospital in Newark, New Jersey for 315 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: shock Baltimore Mare and died of a heart attack. Car 316 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: accidents panicked people in the streets. None of these things happened. 317 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: The story of the reaction to the program is an 318 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: urban legend, the one that was briefly promoted by the 319 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: popular press. Now later on scholars went back and found 320 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: that no, most people did understand that it was a 321 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: work of fiction that they were listening to on the radio. 322 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: Of the people who did miss the announcement at the beginning, 323 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: and that it was a play, and who thought they 324 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: were listening to a real broadcast, most of them thought 325 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: it was an invasion of Germans, not Martians. It got 326 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: sort of played up a lot, I mean, in part 327 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: because it was newspapers who like losing audiences to radio 328 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: and wanted to be able to cast radio is this 329 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: uniquely new threat. And in part, you know, it just 330 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: sort of fed people's fear of the masses in general, 331 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: and this idea that people were just easily manipulated by 332 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: a demagogue within microphone. And of course ours In Welles 333 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: was happy to have this story going around that he 334 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: was such an amazing storyteller. He had you know, the 335 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: country panicking. I mean, I mean, in addition to being 336 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, a great popular artist, Orson Welles he understood 337 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: show business as the stories of the Michigan sightings made 338 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: it into the national press. The questions began, what is 339 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: the government going to do about it? Are they going 340 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: to investigate in this environment? Alan Heinek pressed his boss, 341 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: Captain Hector Quintinilla, the head of Project Blue Book, to 342 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: be sent to Michigan to try to determine what was happening. First, 343 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: his boss at Project blue Book said no, we're ignoring this, 344 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: and Heineck was very frustrated. Well, a little while later 345 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: he gets a call from his boss at the Air 346 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: Force again he says, all right, go to Michigan. The 347 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: press attention had made not investigating an untenable position. They 348 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: were embarrassed by their inaction, and so they decided they 349 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: had to do something. So they send Heineck to Michigan. 350 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: And in Michigan, Heinik encountered the case that would be 351 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: the turning point of his career, the confrontation in his 352 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: hero's journey that would eventually bring him back to the 353 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: public with a new message next time on Strange Arrivals. 354 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Strange Arrivals is a production of I Heeart, three D 355 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: audio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky. This episode 356 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: was written and hosted by Toby Ball and produced by 357 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Miranda Hawkins and Josh Thame, with executive producers Alex Williams, 358 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick, and Aaron Manky. 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