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Speaker 1: Welcome to money making Conversations. I'm your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess we all have to have different

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Speaker 1: definitions of success we do. For some it's a post

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Speaker 1: sizeable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake up and inspiring

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Speaker 1: them to accomplish their goals and live their very best life.

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Speaker 1: These are my passion. That's what I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: for you. I want you to stop tripping over small

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Speaker 1: challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that

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Speaker 1: life will present to you. My next guest, pit Master

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Speaker 1: Rodney Scott, has been cooking whole hog barbecue over with

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Speaker 1: cold since the age of eleven. Rodney is featuring the

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Speaker 1: Netflix acclaimed Chef Table series. It is barbecue theme this season.

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Speaker 1: In twin and nineteen, Rodney Scott opened his second location

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Speaker 1: in Birmingham, Alabama, The Ham. That's right, The Ham, bringing

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Speaker 1: a whole hog South Carolina style barbecue and his fame

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Speaker 1: famous vinegar based Rodney sauce to another part of the South.

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Speaker 1: Rodney Scott's Barbecue, Pitts, rib cooks, ribs, chicken, turkey, and

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Speaker 1: other classics like colle Grees, cod slaw Ella's Banana putting

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Speaker 1: honor Rodney his mother. In one another outpost of Rodney Scott,

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Speaker 1: Whole Hall Barbecue is set the opening historic West End

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta, Georgia. You know, I can't wait. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm based with another in Birmingham Hes going back to

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Speaker 1: the Ham he just loved. The Ham is due to

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Speaker 1: open later that year. He is all about the Whole

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Speaker 1: Hall Barbecue. Please working the money making conversations, my man,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Scott, Hello, Hello, than to say about you, brother,

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Speaker 1: lots to say about you, man and my son. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan of just food. I'm a foodie.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed to become proclaimed that's an award winning baker.

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Speaker 1: So and every time I look at food or desserts,

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Speaker 1: especially cooking. And I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: So i know Bobby Que Bobby jar in fact, my nephew.

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Speaker 1: He has a He has an award winning barbecue stand

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Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. He cooks for the for the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texas on the weekend. He wanted the top box in

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Speaker 1: the Houston, Texas. So so you know, when when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Bible, he makes his own sausage and everything.

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Speaker 1: So so he's a military veteran from the Army, So

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of what he's a competent. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he called me like a few minutes before this interview started,

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Speaker 1: and I felt that it was it was it was ironic.

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Speaker 1: He called me right before I was about to start

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Speaker 1: this interview with you. So I saw the the Netflix

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Speaker 1: special that's where That's why I became in love with

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Speaker 1: the brand of Rodney Scott. So what is the brand

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Speaker 1: of Roddney Scott before we get started from your point

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Speaker 1: of view? Uh, first of all, hello to everybody out there.

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Speaker 1: Every day is a good day, regardless of where you are. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know the Riding Scott brand it started. It's basically

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Speaker 1: whole hog cooking, which is over hot coals and and

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Speaker 1: it's where we burned our wood down. We turned in

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Speaker 1: the hot coals. We take the hot coals and put

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Speaker 1: it under the hog and we cook it for anywhere

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Speaker 1: from eight to twelve hours, usually around twelve hours. And uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the whole brand is about bringing people together,

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Speaker 1: the inspiring people, you know, through food and music. I'm

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Speaker 1: a music clever. I gotta admit, love me some music. Now,

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Speaker 1: with that being said, when I when I watched these

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Speaker 1: different barbecue shows, you know, it seems like you guys

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Speaker 1: don't do much to the meat for to be great,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I was looking about the house man

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Speaker 1: barbecue seems so complicated at my house. But when I

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Speaker 1: watch your TV, Rodney, just put that child, Just put

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Speaker 1: put the rub on it, put the vendegle on it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: smoke it, and you're done. And then everybody and then

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Speaker 1: it just falls apart. Maybe because I'm not doing the

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Speaker 1: eight to twelve hours sessions. I'm trying to cook mine

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Speaker 1: in two hours, is what's causing the difficult problems. Obviously

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Speaker 1: create a little problem on the side of the proteins.

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Speaker 1: Depending on the side, you definitely want to cook it

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Speaker 1: a little while. Um, you know you run the different things, uh,

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Speaker 1: the way that we do it at home. We we

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Speaker 1: do sprinkle our rub on and and and put put

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Speaker 1: our ribs on for example, but you know we don't

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Speaker 1: About three and a half four hours on those ribs

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Speaker 1: just an example. You know, some of the mistakes that

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Speaker 1: you can personalize and this is your problem. So so

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Speaker 1: here's what you do. You have fun with you keep

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Speaker 1: That'll make it a lot easier than having a pressure

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Speaker 1: talk about the Netflix series. What I saw you on? Now,

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Speaker 1: how did that happen? And how were you chosen? Wow?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think we're chosen by word of mouth. Um.

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Speaker 1: One of one of my co workers that was with

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Speaker 1: us the day that I met the guys, I was exhausted.

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Speaker 1: I was out in California cooking. I was exhausted, didn't

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Speaker 1: oh wow, man, I'm excited to hear that. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I think it was word of mouth that said that

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Speaker 1: do something. I'm like, really sure, And before you know what,

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Speaker 1: I got the call Netflix was coming in and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how long did they follow you? How long? What was

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Speaker 1: the time when it was several days a day, a

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Speaker 1: and the back story, to pull that pull that episode off,

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Speaker 1: To pull that episode off, it took us a total

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Speaker 1: of two weeks. Um. It was two weeks hard work.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Oh man, those guys

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Speaker 1: interesting to tell the story of barbecue, something that's so

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Speaker 1: me to be able to tell that story through chef's

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Speaker 1: is is something more than just thinks some people do

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Speaker 1: the same level it's fine dining, to be mentioned on

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Speaker 1: that same level, man, that is huge, huge, and it

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Speaker 1: felt good taping with these guys to tell that story

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Speaker 1: what you're doing the world and not. And I can

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Speaker 1: tell it's one thing about me I would like I

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Speaker 1: When you're good barbecue, you really are the king of

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Speaker 1: you you have a certain honor. You know. You know

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Speaker 1: he can cook because everybody can. I cook barbecue because

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Speaker 1: they you know. So tell me this, Rodney, what what

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Speaker 1: makes a good because you kind of talk about a

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Speaker 1: little bit earlier, what makes a good barbecue person? And

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Speaker 1: what makes a person like me who shouldn't be even

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Speaker 1: I want to took it like a burger. You know,

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Speaker 1: I want my ribs done like a burger. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know that impatience. So what what what makes a good

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Speaker 1: in the story. You're going and you've got the little cold,

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Speaker 1: and a different different flavors that come if you want

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Speaker 1: to smoke it. Because I got it all. I got

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Speaker 1: many others can I call them ovens? Uh? What do

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Speaker 1: you call those things that you cook? The whole hogs?

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Speaker 1: some people call them smokers. You know, everybody has a

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Speaker 1: different terminology. But I call them pits. And uh. In

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and tell you so that our country I would

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Speaker 1: My dad man used to take me the country and

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Speaker 1: come back and you know, we bring it back with

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Speaker 1: hog head cheese. We got the children's you know, we

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Speaker 1: got the ham. You know that hog when he can't

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Speaker 1: we pig feet. We did everything on that hall right

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Speaker 1: at that hallome that that hog didn't walk out that house.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He walked in my house.

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Speaker 1: He was the knuckles were gone, the tails were gone,

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. That house ain't nothing right to

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Speaker 1: chi list with white white rice? What do you eat?

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Speaker 1: Your doing the hot sauce? Oh man? We had the

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Speaker 1: lady that used to make it for us, Miss Margaret.

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Speaker 1: manro down, my good. See that's that's that's the country talk.

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Speaker 1: See Rody and I. If you're not ready for this,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you tune in on money make conversation. We

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Speaker 1: where we are today talking about your success. Correct, correct, correct, correct.

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Speaker 1: You know, a closed doll don't get fed. I'm some

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Speaker 1: of the find of that all the time, tell Nick

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Speaker 1: that all the time. A closed mouth don't get fed.

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Speaker 1: If you don't open up your mouth and say what

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Speaker 1: you want, that opportunity is not gonna be there for you.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're just gonna let it pass you by

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Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're not gonna you're not willing

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Speaker 1: to step out on faith and do your thing and

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00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: stay stay consistent and persistent. You know you can. It

436
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: can clip right by past you. And I refused to

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Speaker 1: let anything to slip past me. And you don't. Now

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Speaker 1: he's about to comment because I wanted to get the

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Speaker 1: comment on people's reaction to this chef table specialtis Arn

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Speaker 1: on Netflix after they saw it. What has been the reaction?

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Speaker 1: Out of this world the reaction, let me tell you

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Speaker 1: the It released at three am Eastern Standard Time on

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Speaker 1: September second, for thirty I think I had messages on

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Speaker 1: my phone. I had messages from Australia. I had messages

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Speaker 1: from uh Russia, ru Germany, Switzerland, the UK, and and

446
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: and everything on Instagram. The message requests, they've they've been

447
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Speaker 1: out of this world. And by the way, I'm not

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Speaker 1: ignoring the request. I'm trying to get to him. I'm

449
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying, but it's been out of this world. Sales

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Speaker 1: at the restaurant line out the door. People have been

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Speaker 1: pushing so much love. They have been grown men and

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00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: women approached me with tears in their eyes and told

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Speaker 1: my story. You told my story. We're going to do

454
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: the same thing. Uh. Weird, weird calls at times, and

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Speaker 1: you don't know me, but I got your number from

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Speaker 1: such and such and I They would say the first name,

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Speaker 1: but they would just say how much the story touched

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Speaker 1: their lives. It's it's been unbelievable all the way around,

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Speaker 1: you know, business wise, personal wise, and and it inspired

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Speaker 1: so many people to come out and say that they're

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00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: having tough relationships with their families and they want to

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Speaker 1: do something about it. So it's it's been, it's been

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Speaker 1: over over the top, man, It's been absolutely great. I'm

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Speaker 1: enjoying every second of being able to see somebody and

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Speaker 1: say that you helped me, you change my life. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you, man, my father was a truck driver,

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Speaker 1: kind of like your father. You know, this way it's

468
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Speaker 1: gonna be. This is why I've been, This is the

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Speaker 1: way we've been doing. This way it's gonna be, and

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Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna be after I lead this

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Speaker 1: because that's where he sat the rules in place, and

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Speaker 1: so I just I'm gonna tell you, man, I I

473
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Speaker 1: watching the show and this just speaking honest. Is that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I just Rodney Scott brand I fell in love with

475
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Speaker 1: the family man. I fell in love with the son.

476
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Speaker 1: I fell in love with the entrepreneur. I fell in

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Speaker 1: the the I don't give up spirit. I'm not afraid

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Speaker 1: to try something new. I'm not afraid to travel, I'm

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00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: not afraid to understand that God has something in store

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Speaker 1: for me, and when it comes to me, I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 1: be waiting and I'm gonna put the work in to

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Speaker 1: make sure it happens. That's what people saw in that story, man.

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Speaker 1: And it's just one of the great, great, um individual

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Speaker 1: moments of watching something on television. You're going, this is

485
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Speaker 1: great storytelling because they told your story right now, They

486
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Speaker 1: really did. Yeah, that that story of my life, man,

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Speaker 1: And and I just hope that everybody that watches it

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Speaker 1: learn from it and stay inspired by it. You know,

489
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Speaker 1: don't feel don't feel down because things are not happening

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Speaker 1: to you the way that you wanted to. You know,

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Speaker 1: your turns coming. Just sit tight now my turn is

492
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Speaker 1: coming because you're supposed to be coming to Atlanta here

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Speaker 1: with some Bob my brother tell us about the expansion

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Speaker 1: talk and uh, how's everything going down in the ham

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Speaker 1: and uh? And why is there a desire to expand

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Speaker 1: the brand? Man? The desire to expand the brands? In

497
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Speaker 1: the childhood dream? Um, I heard I heard T. D.

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Speaker 1: Jake say the Colonel have chicken and he got so

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Speaker 1: blessed and it spread all over the world. And I said,

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Speaker 1: we got hugs, and uh, the brand Man was was

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00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: the personal dream and uh Me and Nick we we

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about expansion and he asked me and

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Speaker 1: I told him, and Atlanta was one of the stops.

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited to come to Atlanta. I remember reading

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Speaker 1: about Atlanta in the eighties and the Everny magazine that

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Speaker 1: the city was growing so fast, and I was like, wow, man, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: where is that? You know? And finally got an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it. And I'm excited about Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Birmingham as well. We're coming into Birmingham expanding that the

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Speaker 1: That place is just one of the most beautiful cities

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It's it's a city, but it feels

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Speaker 1: like a small town. You know, you still receive a

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Speaker 1: lot of love. You can feel a love in that area.

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Speaker 1: And and and I just I drive to Birmingham all

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Speaker 1: the time and not just for work, and I just

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Speaker 1: loved the area. Well, I gotta get you more, Bore

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Speaker 1: Ricky smile that Rickie spoiling country there Birmingham. That's big. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I gotta put him on the radio show. But we

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Speaker 1: get Spiler man, he probably don't know you in the hand.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta hook this up, man, because my

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Speaker 1: own thing that is that is as a brand and

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Speaker 1: watching you grow as a as a business year James

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Speaker 1: Beard Award winner. You know your your barbecues outstanding. You're

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Speaker 1: expanding that. Tell us a little bit about your partner.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned his name several times, because he was really

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Speaker 1: key until you becoming a brand that you are today.

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Speaker 1: And how did that relationship come about? That relationship relationship

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Speaker 1: with my partner, my brother came about in two thousand

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Speaker 1: h I think it was ten nine or ten. We

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Speaker 1: met and uh, we're introduced by mutual friends and and

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Speaker 1: we we did an event together called the Smoke Dimmer

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Speaker 1: here in Charleston for Charleston Line and Food. And that

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00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: night we talked and I said, this dude's really funny man,

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Speaker 1: you know the great conversation. Seems to be a smart businessman.

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Speaker 1: And we just we we formed a relationship from the

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Speaker 1: first night that I did this event up until current day.

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Speaker 1: You know you're talking about this is my best man

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Speaker 1: at at my wedding. You know, this is the guy

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00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: if I need to talk to somebody, I can call

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00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: him up. And he mentioned these opportunities to me and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Yeah, you know, dude, I know you. I've

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00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: seen your hard work, I've seen your efforts, I've seen

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00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: your success. And yeah, I guide me, show me, tell

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: me what you know, and I'll tell you what I know.

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00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: And together, man, we we we learned from each other constantly.

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00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: We listened to each other constantly. He shows me things,

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00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: I showed him things, and we're constantly talking and communicating.

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Speaker 1: He's been a very very big part on me opening

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00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: the first Rodney Scott here in Charleston, right right right

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Speaker 1: down the street. Well, you know, my whole thing is that, Um,

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Speaker 1: you're a pitt Master, You're keen pitt Master. If you

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: haven't seen the special on Netflix, it's called The Chef's Table. Um,

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00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: they have a trailer. They have a number of other

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00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: really good episodes, But I'm only here to talk about

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Speaker 1: Rodney Scott. That's the episode to change my my take

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Speaker 1: on what it means to Bobbecue. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of great bobbyca my boy Kevin Blood, so he's

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Speaker 1: my boy out of l A Lesse. Bobby got my

559
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: nephew down in Houston, Texas. He's a bad Bobbecue. But Rodney,

560
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: this guy, Neither one of them are James Beer an

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00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: award winning pit Masters. Okay, congratulations brother, and uh, you

562
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: know when you come to Atlanta, you know we're gonna

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00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: keep this relationship going and all that and everything. But again,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring you on my show, My

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation, tell your story. We're gonna promote this

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Speaker 1: a lot and get the word out. Do you have

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Speaker 1: do you do you ship your meat or do you

568
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: shipping your food or it's everything just at the stores.

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Speaker 1: We're not shipping right now everything that the stores. We're

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Speaker 1: shipping our retail products were Um, we're shipping our sauces,

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00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: our T shirts, has our rubs, we're shipping those right now.

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00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: And uh, we're we have a book coming out spring one, Um,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Scott's World of Barbecue. Every Day is a good day.

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Speaker 1: Uh that's do. You can pre order that on Amazon

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00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: and uh we we we were excited to share what

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00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: we got with the world. Right now you have to

577
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: come and see us. But hey, we're working on you're

578
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: trying to put one in your back. When you know

579
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: you and your Australia man a Russian, they won't want

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Speaker 1: something besides a little T shirt there by, friend, But again, beget.

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Speaker 1: You always got me excited about that sauce because you

582
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: know your boy don't know nothing about no boques. So

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00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: at least I can start with that sauce and get

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00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: and that rub that you're selling down there and get

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Speaker 1: that right on my meat and we can get rollers

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Speaker 1: and dude, at least get that egg working right and

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00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: then then take my time. Take my time, Take my time. Yeah,

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00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: take your time on that egg. Take time track to

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Speaker 1: talk about halfway and get that baby at about two hundred.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I love talking to an expert. Rodday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling Money Making Conversations. I appreciate hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the interview. Man, it's also talking to all mine,

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Speaker 1: all right, Thank you, Thank you, my brother. If you

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