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Speaker 6: If you let me ask you something, if that was

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Speaker 6: I gave you an intentional Andy Hart hyperbole, but do

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Speaker 4: I'm not better.

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Speaker 1: Andy called Mahomes a soccer player multiple times during that

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 7: Off season now, Fred, it's off season. You can't eve

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Speaker 7: talk about the super Bowl anymore. We're just we're into

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Speaker 7: the void of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Deuce, it's Alex. Welcome back.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were still with us.

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Speaker 8: Well, I ran out of PTO, so what am I

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Speaker 8: going to do?

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Speaker 4: She took them.

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Speaker 1: Evan's here, falls here, Matt's in the booth and come

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Speaker 1: and seeing a ghost. So we're talking Patriots. Not with

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Speaker 1: that's hand, thank you. Uh, We're talking Patriots for the

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Speaker 1: next two hours and whatever else comes to mind. But

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Speaker 1: I was just walking around today and they're redoing the

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Speaker 1: whole coaching area, like all construction. It's like major major

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Speaker 6: You're walking around the coaching area.

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Speaker 4: Where are Yeah, you get hands on.

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Speaker 9: The culture, no playbooks, building silos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of it. There are doing a

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Speaker 1: and to get ready for the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 9: Really worried about the important things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to watch out. Evan's on edge right now. Evan's

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Speaker 6: What's wrong with him?

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Speaker 4: I'll let him speak for himself.

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Speaker 1: But Jersey Mike's closed again.

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Speaker 9: On the snow day I did, and I was really

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Speaker 7: To the poor people that like didn't get to work

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Speaker 9: and it said not taking any orders and I was like, why.

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Speaker 9: That's that's true. That happened to of course pizza time

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's what he told me.

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Speaker 6: Okay, put him in order and yeah they received.

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Speaker 4: The just went into these They took his money.

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Speaker 1: So what else is bothering you?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know we did this on we did this

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Speaker 7: Tell it's all simmering under the surface right now with him,

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Speaker 9: when we heard from Alex van Pelt. Finally, finally somebody

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Speaker 9: can somebody tell me how the twenty twenty four Patriots

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Speaker 9: Can somebody tell me what's the what's you know.

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Speaker 1: It's February, yes, and they can I do it in

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Speaker 9: Do know that every other head coach that had an

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Speaker 9: pretty anti Dan Campbell, to be honest with you, But

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Speaker 9: What is girod Mayo's vision for this football team? What

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Speaker 4: So that great. You know what I enjoyed.

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Speaker 9: I enjoyed winning, So how are we gonna enjoy How

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Speaker 9: are we going to get back to winning and worry

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Speaker 9: less about silos and bridges and you know, like singing

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Speaker 6: Okay, don't forget collaborative.

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Speaker 1: So in the case of Dan Campbell, yes, right, even

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Speaker 1: And when he talks about building bridges, he's got some

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Speaker 9: Ago, just at least Alex van Pelt yesterday got up

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Speaker 9: there and said, I believe in running the ball.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I believe. So what's the difference between Alex van

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Speaker 9: Experience is that where you're getting exactly he's done it before,

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Speaker 9: so he has some frame of reference to draw it.

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Speaker 9: Worries me. It sounds very corporate to me. I hear you,

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Speaker 9: I hear you, And we'll see we're football.

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Speaker 1: Listen. If if we're still talking about this in May,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. You know, I'm with you. And hopefully

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Speaker 1: kind of team they do want to be by the

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Speaker 1: type of players that they're targeting, but I don't know.

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Speaker 9: The vision worries me.

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Speaker 4: This is all.

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Speaker 6: This is all sork me a lot longer to get

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Speaker 6: you with this spot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is all a work in progress.

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Speaker 9: I mean, are you you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I do understand what you're saying. I'm not as bothered

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Speaker 9: From what we've heard from Gerard Mayo this whole time,

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Speaker 9: Alex van Pel like, oh good, I'm glad somebody is

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Speaker 9: talking about football, Like I'm glad somebody is worried.

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Speaker 6: About run centric. But at least it was a goal.

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Speaker 9: And like of all the things that we can say

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Speaker 9: about Bill, in the end, I didn't agree with any

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Speaker 9: he did have a vision for how they wanted to

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Speaker 1: Sure, and again he had also experienced I think Girard

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Speaker 1: on for that vision, you know, in terms of offense, defense, Uh, right, right,

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Speaker 1: right now, Gerard is you know, he's occupied with building

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Speaker 1: he's working on right now. But he's right now. Alex

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Speaker 1: These guys have they're gonna like.

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Speaker 9: That Fred, you know, well he's the head coach of

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Speaker 9: the team. Like, it's your vision, it's your team.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: I just I was already at this point to an

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Speaker 9: right Raheem Moris gets the job, Zach Robinson's the offensive

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Speaker 9: that was communicated beforehand. That wasn't something that just came

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Speaker 6: Sure, right, you know those are these who was It

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Speaker 6: all gets back to your experience.

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Speaker 1: It does. It all gets back to the experience all

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Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean it's good.

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Speaker 1: No, this is the This is the risk, and we

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Speaker 6: You know, if Robert I understand Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 1: Would admit it's risk when you hire a guy who's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's not like I've seen plenty of guys

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Speaker 6: how they want to do it. I think Evan's a

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Speaker 6: little put off by the fact that we haven't really

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Speaker 6: he wants to do it and just hasn't communicated it

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Speaker 6: I think Evan might have some concerns that he's not

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Speaker 1: Wants to do I'll bet you he isn't good. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I just feel like anything he would say, it's just

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Speaker 1: But is there.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of things that I like about job mate.

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Speaker 1: And it's clear that his stamp is on a lot

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Speaker 9: Right That's that's the one beacon of hope front office ones.

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Speaker 1: I think you're being a little dramatic, and that's fine.

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Speaker 4: This is radio.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have the show opening like that to that.

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Speaker 4: He was steaming a little bit, and I was like,

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 9: It's been brewing.

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Speaker 6: Last time I saw you this matter is when Alex

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Speaker 1: Thee Alex Barth's school of fabricated drama.

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Speaker 9: I know school. This is not a fabricated This has

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you expected.

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Speaker 9: I expected a plan. I don't think they have a plan.

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Speaker 6: You thought that they were going to walk away from

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Speaker 1: Again, you know how many how many other teams when

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Speaker 6: But now you're changing, you're changing the question. Now you're saying, like,

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Speaker 6: But like, what's the difference who you're replacing. You know,

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Speaker 6: That doesn't matter if you I mean, to your point,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that.

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Speaker 6: I know they wanted Gerard Mayo to replace them, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yes, But my point being it's it's not a but

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter who you're replacing. The caliber of coach

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Speaker 1: Absolutely it does.

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Speaker 6: But not in terms of what you're going to do now.

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Speaker 1: I think that you're underestimating the effect of moving on

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Speaker 6: Don't think could have been thinking in December, what do

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Speaker 1: You can't be making calls around the league.

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Speaker 6: You don't make calls. You think about what you want

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Speaker 9: Okay, But the guy in Seattle, Mike McDonald, like what

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Speaker 6: I don't really understand why that matters and what.

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Speaker 1: This is different. This is a guy who's been here

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Speaker 6: I don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: And you're you're moving on with a guy who's never

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Speaker 9: I just look at it. I'm gonna go to Seattle

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Speaker 9: No, he just left that guy. He just left him

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Speaker 9: But what's the point.

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Speaker 6: I don't understand. I just don't understand what the caliber

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Speaker 6: You're walking in you're like, you never want to be

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Speaker 6: Let's let's let's let's not expect him to go and

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Speaker 1: You you don't think the Bill people are waiting for

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Speaker 6: I have no idea what. I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: what's the type of team they're going to be. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna get that's a work in progress, that part of it.

447
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Speaker 1: And it's based on the coach.

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Speaker 4: They shouldn't be a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: It's based on the coaches that he's hired. It's going

450
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Speaker 1: to be based on the quarterback if they draft a quarterback.

451
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknowns.

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Speaker 6: Implementing whatever he wants to do should be a working progress,

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Speaker 6: not what he wants to do. You know, can he

454
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Speaker 6: succeed in doing it? This is where I get to

455
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Speaker 6: the Bill Belichick is relevant part. But she should have

456
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Speaker 6: an idea of what I mean.

457
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Speaker 7: But just because he's not sharing it, with us, and

458
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Speaker 7: you know that he has exactly which is what I said,

459
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Speaker 7: That's what I said at the plot. But I mean,

460
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Speaker 7: I think it's just a valid point of what what's

461
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Speaker 7: sold John Alex van Pelt like, what what made him

462
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Speaker 7: the guy? Was it that you couldn't get anybody else?

463
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Speaker 4: Like? You know, was he the last man standing?

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Speaker 10: I think I think the biggest thing and why people

465
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Speaker 10: are kind of impatient right now is because, I mean,

466
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Speaker 10: you don't know what you don't know. And then maybe

467
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Speaker 10: you thought it was going to be easy, You're going

468
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Speaker 10: to make all these hires, but maybe it was less

469
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Speaker 10: of a desirable job than we initially thought. And I

470
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Speaker 10: think assembling the coaching staff was probably harder than they.

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Speaker 1: Thought that could be. I agree, that's not jern my

472
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Speaker 1: host fault though, no, of course not.

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Speaker 9: These are the types of things that concern me more

474
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Speaker 9: than the fact that he that I think he sounds

475
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Speaker 9: very corporate when he speaks like that type of stuff

476
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Speaker 9: is not here nor there, Like that doesn't necessarily decide

477
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Speaker 9: whether or not he's going to be a good football

478
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Speaker 9: coach or not. I think the problem that I see

479
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Speaker 9: is that a lot of these other you know, when

480
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Speaker 9: you go into these interviews for head coaching job. They

481
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Speaker 9: one of the bigger questions that they ask is who

482
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Speaker 9: are going to be your coordinators? And you're supposed to

483
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Speaker 9: have like a short list of like these are the

484
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Speaker 9: two or three guys, either because you coached against them,

485
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Speaker 9: you coach with them, you know, whatever the case may be.

486
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Speaker 9: A lot of the time, it's well, we played this

487
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Speaker 9: team the last couple of years and they killed us offensively,

488
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Speaker 9: Like this guy really knows what he's doing, and so

489
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Speaker 9: they'll go out and get that guy. I just that

490
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Speaker 9: piece of it worries me a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'll say something that might even worry you more.

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Speaker 6: Oh good, No, what if you're supposed to help.

493
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Speaker 1: What if Mayo had a couple guys in mind, couldn't

494
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Speaker 1: get him? And then Elliott Wolfe says, let me take

495
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Speaker 1: care of it.

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Speaker 9: That that's kind of what Alex was saying about the

497
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Speaker 9: desirability of the job. That's what started this whole spire

498
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Speaker 9: over me. Yeah, is because I think that Zach Robinson

499
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Speaker 9: was their guy. I think they really wanted Zach Robinson.

500
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Speaker 9: I think they made a strong push to get Zach Robinson.

501
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Speaker 6: And I think Nick Kayley was planned B.

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Speaker 9: It was Plan B and they gotten either.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And I think that Zach Robinson was attached to Raheem

505
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Speaker 9: Morris probably when he started to get win that Atlanta

506
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Speaker 9: was really serious about Raheem Morris. He said, let me

507
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Speaker 9: take a step back and see what.

508
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Speaker 1: Were he I'm glad they didn't get Nick Kayley. Nothing

509
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Speaker 1: against him, but I want some experience. And I like

510
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Speaker 1: the idea of bringing in Ben mcado to have even

511
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Speaker 1: more experience as an advisor, you know. I we need

512
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Speaker 1: people who have done it before.

513
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Speaker 6: Because I liked the idea of the position that they

514
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Speaker 6: created for Macadoo. I just don't like that it's Macadoo like.

515
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Speaker 6: I would have been much much happier if it were

516
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Speaker 6: like sometimes in Rainbow, Frank Reich or someone who had

517
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Speaker 6: a monoicum of success as a head coach, didn't like

518
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Speaker 6: spectacularly fail as a hiten.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 1: I know, but we're not asking Ben mackado to be the.

521
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Speaker 6: Hill, but I'm talking about in that role, like someone

522
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Speaker 6: to lean on whatever. I didn't want Josh McDaniels back. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 6: and I love Josh yeah all that, yep, but failed twice.

524
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Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't want him back.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, this is just point

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Speaker 9: number one. You know, I'll save started.

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Speaker 4: I know it's February fifteenth, so I like again I did.

528
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Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with Sam in North Carolina

529
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Speaker 1: says I've been feeling the same way as Evan, and

530
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Speaker 1: I was a big male guy coming in. Mayo has

531
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Speaker 1: done nothing to make me feel better since day one.

532
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Speaker 1: He felt like a corporate guy. I felt like he

533
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Speaker 1: was my boss talking to me about how things will

534
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Speaker 1: be different than the last boss. But everyone just wants

535
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Speaker 1: better football. Cut the corporate bs and give us a

536
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Speaker 1: football coach. So that's and then he's he's, uh, he

537
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Speaker 1: doesn't like Drake may doesn't from North Carolina, doesn't have

538
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Speaker 1: the clutch fact is he from North Caro? North Carolina?

539
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Speaker 9: Shock?

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Speaker 1: I mean it just doesn't that bother you that everyone

541
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Speaker 1: from North Carolina doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Like not even know, because I have a million other

543
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Speaker 6: people that have told me how great he is.

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Speaker 4: So from North Carolina?

545
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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, my buddy Dan my Northeastern and he's a

546
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Speaker 6: huge Patriots guy.

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Speaker 1: Uh fream says Evans having a great hair day, Alex,

548
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Speaker 1: Not sorry, Alex, You're not having a great hair day.

549
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Speaker 4: The donut the donut. Wow, the donut coming in hot?

550
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Speaker 9: All right, I got a haircut yesterday.

551
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Speaker 8: Well, I worked out this morning.

552
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Speaker 1: I might have to go there.

553
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm going to tell him who you are.

554
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't like to give you the shame.

555
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Speaker 9: You don't have to like, you don't have to come

556
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Speaker 9: out and be like I'm Fred kursh like you just

557
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Speaker 9: kind of weave it into the confer little sniff.

558
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Speaker 6: So what does that mean? You end up getting for

559
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Speaker 6: the bagel?

560
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Speaker 1: Do I get a discount?

561
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Speaker 4: Where's this place?

562
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Speaker 6: It's right next to even if you have no hair

563
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Speaker 6: like me, because I need a little track, I'm getting that.

564
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Speaker 4: You'll be You'll be like.

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Speaker 6: Will was uh. Will was like throwing out the flow

566
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Speaker 6: calling it let us the other day the Super Bowl,

567
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Speaker 6: and I was like, just go from the other side.

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Speaker 1: Play that's your kitchen, that's what they call it's actually

569
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Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I think it's pretty this is justin

570
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Speaker 1: and Orlando. I think it's pretty clear that Mayo is

571
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Speaker 1: being set up to fail. Can we give the guy

572
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Speaker 1: any time at all? Before saying he doesn't know how

573
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Speaker 1: he wants the team to play, what could he say

574
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Speaker 1: to alleviate it? Was concerns bite off kneecaps, do your job.

575
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Speaker 1: We're being ridiculous, And I care much more about the

576
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Speaker 1: lack of clarity in the front office than the lack

577
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Speaker 1: of a status the play from the head coach.

578
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Speaker 9: There's no lack of clarity in the front office. Elliott

579
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Speaker 9: Wolf is the facto general manager of the Patriots.

580
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Speaker 6: And there has been no football talk period. It's not

581
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Speaker 6: about like biting kneecaps. There's been nothing spoken in the

582
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Speaker 6: Times that we've heard from Mayo about football.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 6: I think that's Evan's point. Now, again, it doesn't bother

585
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Speaker 6: me as much as it obviously bothers Evan, But that's

586
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Speaker 6: that's kind of a fact. I'd never really heard a

587
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Speaker 6: guy that intered three press conference not talk about his

588
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 6: football philosophy.

589
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Speaker 1: And well, let me, I don't remember that. But at

590
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Speaker 1: his introductory press conference with the media, did anyone ask

591
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: that specific like what's your football philosophy? I don't remember.

592
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Speaker 9: I've been waiting for us to get him on the

593
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Speaker 9: show so I can.

594
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Speaker 1: Either No, I'm serious, So I hope we have him

595
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Speaker 1: sitting here and we can ask those questions. Why did

596
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: you like Alex van Pell, Why did you like DeMarcus covering.

597
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Speaker 4: Well, that's that's the thing, Fred.

598
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think we're really talking about just the

599
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Speaker 7: offense here. I mean, I think his defensive philosophy is

600
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Speaker 7: going to be the same kind of game plan.

601
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Speaker 4: You know, we're going to just every week. There's a

602
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Speaker 4: thing like, I mean, I assume, but.

603
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Speaker 6: Is it going to be aggressive? Because I can tell

604
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Speaker 6: you they had the same defense with different guys running

605
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Speaker 6: it that were wildly different.

606
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Speaker 4: Did Flora say we're going to be a lot more about.

607
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Speaker 6: But they weren't in a position to do so. And

608
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Speaker 6: Bill doesn't tell you anything, do you know what I mean?

609
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Speaker 6: I just think that's that's kind of what I'm talking about.

610
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Speaker 4: It doesn't only Behoove.

611
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Speaker 6: But I don't know what they're going to do defensively.

612
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Speaker 6: I just think it's.

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Speaker 9: Such a big thing is that we're getting getting sold.

614
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Speaker 9: And I understand it's early and we're way over, but

615
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 9: we're getting sold this like different, this different vibe right,

616
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 9: like this different culture around the building. It's like a

617
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 9: shell game and and I I feel like it's such

618
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 9: a stark contrast. Like Bill was all football, right, like

619
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Speaker 9: it's all football, it's all business, even if you feel

620
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 9: like he didn't give you anything. Like it was still

621
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Speaker 9: we weren't talking about about silos, people up and developing, people.

622
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Speaker 1: Who whoa hold on for a second, like two months ago.

623
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Speaker 1: We're talking about how Bill doesn't understand the modern athlete

624
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: and things need to change and you need guys that

625
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: understand and tell them why and all that and that's it.

626
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: And now he's says that's what he's gonna do and

627
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: you don't like it.

628
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Speaker 9: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, can we

629
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Speaker 9: have a little bit of both?

630
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Okay?

631
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Speaker 9: Like can we have just a little bit of the

632
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Speaker 9: other thing.

633
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Speaker 6: I personally didn't like the fact that Bill continued to

634
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 6: want to try to win games in a way that

635
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Speaker 6: I don't think is doing.

636
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: And that's another And I don't know if.

637
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 6: Believe he agrees with that or not.

638
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, Champions John, which frightens me.

639
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: John says, Evan's all pissed because the new coach hasn't

640
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: let Evan know the direction he wants to take the team.

641
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember Bill giving his vision of the team

642
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: at some press conference. Aside from Dan de Deucee, Campbell

643
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: has done that. This is an honest question.

644
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Speaker 6: I can tell you you go back to Bill's introductory

645
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: press comments. He talked about tough football players and being

646
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 6: physical on both sides.

647
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: He did they don't have a complete staff. They should

648
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: be focused on staff and players now. Then they can

649
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: make sure Evan approves later if they have a plan.

650
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Speaker 1: Why the hell would they tell us.

651
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 9: This is a show where we give our opinions, right,

652
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 9: I like they can give their opinion.

653
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: Correct, That's what I'm just the tone of this, like

654
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Speaker 1: just because they don't agree with you, Evan, you have

655
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Speaker 1: to agree with me, But like I just leave John, John,

656
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: good job, John. They are doing something. They are doing

657
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Speaker 1: something I haven't done in over twenty years. Give them

658
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: a chance. Not only is this new to the coach,

659
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: it's new to every inch of the organization.

660
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Speaker 9: I am giving it a good point I have. I

661
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 9: am giving it a chance. I have concerns. Is that

662
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Speaker 9: not allowed?

663
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Okay, email her.

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Speaker 5: Well can.

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Speaker 1: Account to you.

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Speaker 6: Is that I feel free to call back in John,

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Speaker 6: good job.

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Speaker 4: I'll keep them coming.

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Speaker 1: James Pettig, grew the most interesting Patriots fan of all times, says,

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Speaker 1: I agree with Evan, this has to be the worst

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Speaker 1: off season of coach Mayo's career.

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Speaker 9: See that was funny.

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Speaker 6: If you knew jeans, it's even funnier.

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Speaker 9: Kevin says, I really, I didn't want to go here

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Speaker 9: on it, so sorry you didn't want to go I

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Speaker 9: led with it.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know. I saw him like I saw

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Speaker 4: the steam still coming out of it. I thought two

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Speaker 4: hours of Catch twenty two we would we.

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Speaker 8: Would have worked for Yeah, but they went down to

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Speaker 8: the wires.

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Virginia says, I agree with Fred, it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. The process of moving on from Bill

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Speaker 1: has been sloppy. But why could it be that the

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Speaker 1: Crafts had to move on from Belichick because Bill tanked

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Speaker 1: team so badly on the offensive side of the ball

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Speaker 1: that they felt they had to move on to Mayol

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Speaker 1: before they really wanted to. Fredd is right. All we

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Speaker 1: can do now is see how it plays out and

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Speaker 1: judge the results good or bad after they happen.

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Speaker 4: That that is true.

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Speaker 9: All we can do is but but but for this

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Speaker 9: portion of the off season, this is where we complain.

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Speaker 6: We can complain now, absolutely, that's a theory from my

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Speaker 6: shows that I don't necessarily agree with. What's that the

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Speaker 6: whole waving on faster than they had that than they

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Speaker 6: thought not. You know, Felder is a big proponent of

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Speaker 6: this is a year. I'm not sure of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure of that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see. Louis says, uh, long time listener, first time emailing.

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the show today, and I'm confused about

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Speaker 1: how the show started. Did something change? Why are we

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Speaker 1: talking about what Mayo said two months ago? Seems the

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Speaker 1: Patriots have a plan or a style of offense they

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Speaker 1: want to play. They are hiring coaches that fit that

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Speaker 1: mold or no, we don't see. We don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I will say, we don't know that. What else would

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Speaker 1: we you want him to do at this point? And also,

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Speaker 1: is it's not fair to compare his situations because we

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Speaker 1: all know the Patriot's roster is terrible. So getting a

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Speaker 1: big time off I don't know what that means, big

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Speaker 1: time offensive coordinator to come here is much harder than

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Speaker 1: in Washington or Seattle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because Washington, Washington's loaded.

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Speaker 9: Well, they just they're loaded.

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Speaker 4: I mean they got the first overall pick.

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Speaker 1: And Jared and Vermont says, according to Dwight Eisenhower, plans

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Speaker 1: are useless, but planning is essential.

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Speaker 4: But everybody has a plan until you get punched in

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Speaker 4: the mouth.

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Speaker 6: M Tyson.

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Speaker 1: Good start to the show. Eight five five past five

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Speaker 1: hundred is the eight Stiken Hotline web radio at pictures

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, Alex, welcome back. What's going on in the studio?

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Speaker 4: You know it's so funny.

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Speaker 8: I was literally texting my hair dresser.

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Speaker 10: I was texting my hairdresser before this too, like, hey,

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Speaker 10: any availability for Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Desperately need to come see you guys. Didn't think anyone

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Speaker 8: else had noticed, but I didn't.

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Speaker 1: People, but you notice she put her hair back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I did because I'm self conscious so.

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Speaker 1: My hair.

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Speaker 8: I haven't washed my hair today. I worked out this morning.

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Speaker 8: I'm so sorry. I apologize. I'll be better. I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: go to Janigo Salon this weekend and we'll be good

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Speaker 8: to go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you like the Super Bowl? Did you watch?

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Speaker 8: I did watch. I was happy to see it was

742
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Speaker 8: actually like a competitive game down to the end, entertaining.

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Speaker 8: I was glad I had my prediction correctly.

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Speaker 4: Oh you did? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, halftime was pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean pretty solid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 8: It was good, not great? Said where you guys talked

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Speaker 8: about it?

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Speaker 10: It started slow yes, yes, but I think if he

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Speaker 10: started with the slow jams, but not only that, but

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Speaker 10: he it was like a two second snippet of the

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Speaker 10: slow jams, So it just took a while for the

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Speaker 10: energy to ramp up.

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Speaker 8: But then he brought out like ludacrous.

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Speaker 1: They brought the roller skates.

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Speaker 13: Chris Little John and Alicia Keys came out and okay, yeah,

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Speaker 13: oh I wait. I saw TikTok about the girl that

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Speaker 13: fell and apparently, like you just when you signed up

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Speaker 13: to do acting jobs, you just like say your way

761
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Speaker 13: over qualified.

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Speaker 6: And that's the kind of mister Hollywood explained the whole.

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Speaker 8: On the same side of TikTok.

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Speaker 1: So you're up on the Is it true that Tayla

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Speaker 1: Swift had Kanye West kicked out?

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Speaker 8: I think Kanye himself said that was not true yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I know, I believe everything he said. I know, well,

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Speaker 1: but why would he say that if it was because

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Speaker 1: he's Kanye West. I think he wasn't in a suite though,

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Speaker 1: but he makes fun of her all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 8: I think it was a little bit of maybe like

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Speaker 8: a fabrication or hyper believe that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: You know, the game of telephone. I think Brandon Marshall

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Speaker 8: probably jump the gun.

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Speaker 1: Off, Okay, I don't know, Okay, and the commercials any anything.

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Speaker 8: Stand guys talked about the Duncan one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it.

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Speaker 8: I like because Beyonce fan. But other than that, I

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Speaker 8: don't know. I'm just a hater. Like the writing is

782
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Speaker 8: just bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's just's leaning too much on star power.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, not a creative nothing really move the needle for me.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 4: Nobody reflected though, those guys jumped right into it. That's

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Speaker 4: what version. That was a good review.

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Speaker 6: It was pretty good that like it was like four

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Speaker 6: four and a half minutes, Like there.

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Speaker 4: I love about it, Paul, we talked about sport. It's

791
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Speaker 4: that it's it's like an extraction of that great moment

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Speaker 4: from Boogie Nights where they're trying to record the record

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Speaker 4: and they're all coked out the magic that is on

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Speaker 4: that record, you know, just the guys who are so

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Speaker 4: in their own headspace about what their their music and

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Speaker 4: their art. Like I just I think you were going

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Speaker 4: to go with the diving competition.

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Speaker 6: Oh let me show you what you did it wrong?

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Speaker 7: One of my that's one of my favorite scenes though,

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Speaker 7: is when they're all trying to convince to get their

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Speaker 7: masters back.

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Speaker 4: Boogie knights all right.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five eight five five pasts five hundred is

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Speaker 1: the ag sticking outline web radio at pages dot com.

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Speaker 1: And he knew hiring.

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Speaker 4: We never talked about don't hide exactly coming back, which

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Speaker 4: I thought was we didn't talk about that. We to

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Speaker 4: talk about it. Yeah, but I like the guy too.

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Speaker 4: They brought over from the Ravens. That's Drew Wilkins. That's

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Speaker 4: kind of an interesting one is their outside linebackers guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, didn't they bring a running backs

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Speaker 1: coach in there for the Jets?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he was pretty like a surprise firing party

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Speaker 9: in the ways with the Jets. Obviously, Breecee Hall has

816
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Speaker 9: been great for them, and uh, they they went in

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Speaker 9: a different directions. Been in that Shanahan offense.

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Speaker 4: He's a good like flat form dark beard Tyler Embry. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's got a good look.

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Speaker 1: So are we just waiting on wide receiver tight ends?

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Speaker 9: I mean, they did hire Taekwon Underwood, but it was

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Speaker 9: reported as an assistant wide receiver coach, right, so they

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Speaker 9: have an assistant wide receiver coach, but they don't have

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Speaker 9: a wide receiver coach.

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Speaker 1: I'll bet you no. I'm not saying they're going to

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Speaker 1: run it back, but I'll bet you for craft if

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Speaker 1: the if Rod wants to move on from Troy, it's

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Speaker 1: a tough one.

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Speaker 4: Well it says that, that says there's a role for him,

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Speaker 4: but they don't necessarily know that. It seems like the

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Speaker 4: move to me is is you know, he gets scrambled

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Speaker 4: over to.

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Speaker 7: Coach slash Yeah, returns okay, But you gotta think he

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Speaker 7: you know, Alex Pelts canna want somebody that can teach

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Speaker 7: his offense the way he wants and is Troy Brown

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Speaker 7: going to be that guy?

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Speaker 4: I that's it seems like a little bit of a stretch. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but how do he convince High Tower?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just High Tower seemed like a guy, remember like

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Speaker 4: he did, like did he retire? We didn't even know.

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Speaker 4: He just kind of stopped like showing up, like you know,

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Speaker 4: there was no like real announcement.

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Speaker 8: I think until it was last year at the same

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Speaker 8: time as Devin.

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Speaker 7: And I thought he was done and then you know

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Speaker 7: it just it seems like he was enjoying living life,

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Speaker 7: getting out of football, you know, and of course the

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Speaker 7: famous thing Girod said last year like, oh, when I

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Speaker 7: get my own ship, I'm gonna try.

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Speaker 4: To bring him in.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But I guess somebody told me that high Tower's wife,

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Speaker 7: I get he gave him like the blessing, which is

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Speaker 7: always the big thing.

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Speaker 4: Of that was you know, it was you, So you know,

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Speaker 4: just to go from hanging out with your wife and

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Speaker 4: you know, just post NFL.

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Speaker 8: Conchs a healthy and I felt vacation.

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Speaker 9: I got the vibe that the wife was kind of like,

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Speaker 9: what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: You're annoying.

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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do, like, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of hours put in here.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, your typical job might be like five o'clock,

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Speaker 4: everybody out quit in time.

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Speaker 1: That's how we rolled.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm fully anticipating. Culture well, he said maybe six.

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Speaker 6: I did think it was funny with a lot of

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Speaker 6: these guys are young, sort of up and coming people

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Speaker 6: that not many of us were very familiar with, and

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Speaker 6: it was like, you know, they can't get anybody to come.

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Speaker 6: Like Alex said, you know, maybe these jobs aren't as attractive.

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Speaker 6: And then like Dante high Tower, who's never coached a

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Speaker 6: day in his life, signs on and it's like, whoo,

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Speaker 6: you know we got and believe me, I love Dante

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Speaker 6: High Tower. But like, I'm not necessarily dismissing all these

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Speaker 6: other guys because they don't have any experience, you know,

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Speaker 6: take them on a case by case basis and see

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Speaker 6: who seems like they know what they're doing. But didn't

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Speaker 6: you find that interesting like they did? The people, all,

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Speaker 6: all the reporters all were like going.

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Speaker 4: Gaga, Yeah, analytical coach.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's great, you know you have that connection

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Speaker 1: to the past.

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Speaker 4: But he's never done it, and you know, he's got

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Speaker 4: a veteran group.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just going by the way everybody always

889
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: they always talked about him, and that the way that

890
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 6: people talked about Mayo. Mayo, Yeah, like he was like

891
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 6: a coach on the field, and Bubble definitely using that

892
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 6: as you know the reason why I think.

893
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 9: I think by Mayo coming out and saying, if I

894
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 9: ever run my own ship, I'm going to get High

895
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 9: Tower to coach linebackers last year, I mean, that's a

896
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 9: pretty big stamp of approval to be like, this guy

897
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 9: is a good board at.

898
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: The time, he's completely out of the game too.

899
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think High Tower was I talked to him

900
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 9: for that piece that I did with all the linebackers

901
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 9: about Mayo, and I asked him at the end and

902
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 9: he said it was pretty clear that he could be swayed.

903
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 9: Like if you if Mayo made a really good recruiting pitch.

904
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 9: I was like this, this could actually have.

905
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna come in, You're gonna coach guys. You'll be here,

906
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: you'll be working like it's.

907
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 9: It's Juwan Bentley, it's probably Java, like it's guys Acmillan,

908
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 9: Like how much coaching does Juwan Bentley really need in

909
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 9: the system at this point? You know it's gonna be Oh,

910
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 9: I saw this little thing. I saw that little thing.

911
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: Right, and he's just insideline backers.

912
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: That's like the Wilkins and the Ravens will be the

913
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: outside linebackers.

914
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, I like the defensive staff. There you go,

915
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 9: it's something possible.

916
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

917
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 7: I think Scott Peters has some challenging coach fight Club

918
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 7: now with High Tower, though I'd probably go High Town.

919
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 9: I like the Scott Peters higher too, Like I watched

920
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 9: some of his clinics and things like that, and that's

921
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 9: like that's what you want your offensive line coach to

922
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 9: look like and sound like just somebody's just gonna tear

923
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 9: somebody's head off.

924
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 6: Like yes, building building breaking down side.

925
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 9: Like he was doing this thing where he was like

926
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 9: showing guys like technique and like it was like a

927
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 9: beam in his backyard and he like put like a

928
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 9: pad up there.

929
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: It was just like it.

930
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: And I was It's like Pat is getting task.

931
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 9: This is guy, this is what I want.

932
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

933
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: Now he's he's he's one of the He's definitely one

934
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 4: of the positives.

935
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 7: I mean, it's and I like, I mean, all the

936
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 7: concerns we talked about at the top, but I do

937
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 7: think there are some you know, things to look at

938
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 7: that are you know interesting. Just how's it all gonna

939
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 7: come together? I think we're all I mean, I'm really

940
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 7: waiting for those wide receivers coach, those tight ends. I

941
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 7: mean I think those are important. I mean, those are

942
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 7: tight ends. You got no tight end, so this guy's

943
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 7: gonna probably have I mean maybe, I mean I'm all

944
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 7: for bringing back Henry, but kind of a bank blank

945
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 7: slate at that position.

946
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: Uh.

947
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: Nolan and California says, I guess with Van Pelt's plan,

948
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: to run the ball. We're gonna need five running backs.

949
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: I hope we get quarterback with the third pick and

950
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: a good round two receiver with high tower coming back.

951
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: Do you guys see any more formal players come back.

952
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Randy Moss come back. That's not happening,

953
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: just hav An alumni.

954
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, I don't think you know that. Normally

955
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 9: I'm on Paul's side of the street with the whole

956
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 9: running the ball wins championships thing. But if you're you're

957
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 9: running the ball for the right reasons, then all the

958
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 9: good teams run the ball, like you know, San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore,

959
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 9: like those teams all run the ball well. But it's

960
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 9: not running the ball to like run the clock and

961
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 9: ball control and possession. It's running the ball to set

962
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 9: up explosive plays in the passing game.

963
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Right.

964
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 9: So if that, if that's what you mean by this

965
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 9: is our foundation, We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna

966
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 9: play action, we're gonna hunt big plays. Then that's one thing.

967
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 9: If you're telling me you're gonna run the ball so

968
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 9: you can win seventeen to fourteen, then I'm with Paul.

969
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I mean, would have kind of assuaged

970
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 7: some of your concerns if they just said, look, we

971
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 7: want to throw the score and we want to run

972
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 7: to win. We want to throw early and off and

973
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 7: we want to get points, and then we want to

974
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 7: have some tough running backs.

975
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: That'll be able to close things out. I mean, I

976
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 4: did it, But that's a cliche.

977
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 6: Sometimes the cliches are what you need.

978
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: You know, that's just to make calm the nerves. That

979
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: was so what They just handed you the playbook and

980
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: they're like.

981
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 6: But as much as I hate running the ball, I've

982
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 6: never said you can't run the ball like I don't

983
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 6: you need to run the ball twenty times a game,

984
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 6: you know, ish, you know, fifteen to twenty two times

985
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 6: the game. I mean, even the good team, like I

986
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: would not say Kansas City is a running team. Somehow

987
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 6: they found a way to win three titles in the

988
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 6: last five years. I mean, you don't have to quote

989
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 6: run the ball, but that's not like an all or

990
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 6: nothing thing. You have to run it sometimes.

991
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta be a little balanced, Yeah, be able to.

992
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 6: Got to you gotta be good inside the five. You

993
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: gotta be good in short yardage and you gotta be

994
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 6: good in the formnute offense. Yeah, as you said, to

995
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 6: throw the ball to score and run the ball to win.

996
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: Although I do think that most teams believe that it's

997
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: hard to just flip that switch and then all of

998
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're we're gonna run, like you have to

999
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: kind of establish it, especially.

1000
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 6: For those are the teams that I'm not interested, especially

1001
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 6: when they want to establish, especially when you talk to

1002
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 6: offensive linemen.

1003
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 9: It's just it's just you need to There's nothing wrong

1004
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 9: with running the ball. It just has to be for

1005
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 9: the right reasons. Like we were talking arguing about this

1006
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 9: on Cash twenty two, Barth brought up, well, it gets

1007
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 9: cold in the winter time in New England, so we

1008
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 9: got to no, Like, I have no time for that.

1009
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 6: That's why I like Drake May. I think he'll hold

1010
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: up in the winter time. Yeah, yeah, I mean size

1011
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 6: and his arm strength.

1012
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: Do you do you wonder though, I mean, if they

1013
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 7: don't really know right now, like exactly what they're going

1014
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 7: to do, because they don't really have a quarterback and

1015
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 7: they don't really have a running back behind Romandra Stevens,

1016
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 7: you know, Like I mean, I just I wonder how

1017
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 7: much of the offensive philosophy is still fluid.

1018
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: You know, I wonder how much of the.

1019
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Offense is going to be here when the season starts again.

1020
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 4: Who is our offense?

1021
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 6: I don't want to be label this because we talked

1022
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: about it for you know, most of the show. It's

1023
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 6: not about what they're actually going to do come September,

1024
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 6: because that's going to change based on personnel. What do

1025
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 6: they want to do?

1026
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Score points? How depending on who we have, if we

1027
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: have no wide receiver, if man have if Marvin, if

1028
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's on our team, I want him to score point.

1029
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 6: But I'm asking, if you had your druthers, if you

1030
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 6: had the players that you want to score in the

1031
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 6: manner that you want, how do you want to play?

1032
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: I want to have, you know, a modern offense with

1033
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: a quarter back who can extend plays if he has to,

1034
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: but can read deep.

1035
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 6: And they might not have the players to do that.

1036
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 6: Totally understood, Like they don't even I mean they literally

1037
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: don't have a quarterback. I mean that's not even being

1038
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 6: you know, Andy Hardish, that's just they don't have a quarterback.

1039
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 9: But these these three quarterbacks at the top of the draft,

1040
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 9: and I get it, like I'm not asking them to

1041
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 9: tip their hand to who they're who they like, and

1042
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 9: who they want to say. But these three quarterbacks at

1043
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 9: the top of the draft are all stylistically very different.

1044
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 9: So if you have a vision of this is how

1045
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 9: we want to play offense, then that fits one quarterback

1046
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 9: more than it fits the other.

1047
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: So it doesn't it make sense for Alex van Pelt

1048
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: to just talk about running right now and not talk

1049
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: about the kind of offense that I'll tip their hand.

1050
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 9: I loved what Alex van Pelt said. He's the first

1051
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 9: person in two months that ex actually talked about football

1052
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 9: in this organization. Perfect.

1053
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: But to your point, you don't tip your hand on

1054
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: the style of quarterback or offense that you want because

1055
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1056
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 6: Right, But I would just so now you're mad at him.

1057
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: Not he did tip his hand in the style of

1058
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 6: offense he wants to run.

1059
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: He talked about running. Yeah, he didn't focus on the

1060
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: type of passing game.

1061
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: He wants because he wants to run.

1062
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: You're being difficult, No, no, no, I'm not.

1063
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 6: I watched his offense for the last four years. Friend,

1064
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 6: I know how he wants to play offense because that's

1065
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 6: exactly how we said he wants to play it in

1066
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 6: the one minute clip we put on Patriots dot Com exactly, which,

1067
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: by the way, the Boston Globe claimed a video issued

1068
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 6: by the team, like well it was that it's not

1069
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 6: the way they said it was not. That really bugs me.

1070
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: They steal the information all the time, claim it as

1071
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 6: their own, and then they're so dismissive that paper deserves

1072
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 6: everything they're getting with John Henry and the Red Sox

1073
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 6: falling apart, couldn't wish enough bad things on that paper.

1074
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: No, but I think that, like you know, we're feisty.

1075
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 6: They just steal stuff, like you can't say Patriots dot com,

1076
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 6: Like you can't say that video that appeared on Patriots

1077
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 6: dot com, Like that's impossible for you.

1078
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 9: It's it's also just funny when we like do like

1079
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 9: obviously going back to like the podcast with Bill and

1080
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 9: stuff like that, Like we do these things and people

1081
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 9: make such a big deal out of it. Like we

1082
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 9: posted a graphic with like players on it the other

1083
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 9: day and people were tweeting which players were on the graphic,

1084
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 9: like it meant something.

1085
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: I know, I was hidden messages.

1086
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 9: It doesn't mean anything.

1087
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 6: The way it was explained in the Globe story was that,

1088
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 6: and you're the only one that still reads it.

1089
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 12: No, no, no, it was.

1090
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 6: It was portrayed as they got the video from the Patriots,

1091
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: like the Patriots gave it to them, said right about

1092
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: it as opposed to Patriots dot Com had a video

1093
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: with Alex van Pelt talking, We're going to have one

1094
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 6: today with Covington, right.

1095
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, I think so.

1096
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1097
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 6: Secrets Springer too, Yeah, spoiler, you know, we talked to

1098
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 6: all of them. We talked about it last.

1099
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's today, but we'll have all three.

1100
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 6: Yes, I think Covington is today, and that is going

1101
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 6: going on Patriots dot Yeah, it's not, and it's not

1102
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 6: being sent by the Patriots media relations department to all

1103
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 6: the various outlets you could go on. We're right, Like

1104
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 6: I'm not telling you you need to give the Patriots,

1105
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 6: you know, give us credit for like, well, great gat.

1106
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 6: We know it's not a great GAT. We decided to

1107
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 6: have the coordinators available and we talked to them. But

1108
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 6: but I'll Paul, I'm not I'm not looking for my flowers,

1109
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 6: I know.

1110
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: But I'll bet you that the conversation that's going on

1111
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: at the Harold and the Globe right now is you know,

1112
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: they're making an exclusive. We should be able to talk

1113
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: to him too, And that's what they're saying.

1114
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, even if they wanted to say they made him

1115
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 6: available to their in house media, that's accurate. Having it,

1116
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: you know, distributed through the team is not accurate. That's

1117
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 6: not what happened, right like, And it's intentionally derogatory.

1118
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: We're doing it for entertainment purposes.

1119
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 6: We're not doing it for because I'm crazy doesn't mean

1120
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 6: I'm always wrong.

1121
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: We're not doing it for the media's benefit. We're doing

1122
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: it for our fans benefit.

1123
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 7: A lot of grousing today, speaking of flowers policy, what's

1124
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 7: going on?

1125
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 8: I don't know that.

1126
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: I was that yesterday.

1127
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 9: No, you didn't get bet flowers.

1128
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: I got okay from the gas station on the way home.

1129
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: There you go to it's you. We actually the intersection

1130
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: that was selling.

1131
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 6: We do not do Valentine's Day.

1132
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: No, we don't really either.

1133
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 6: The only reason why I did do Valentine's Day this

1134
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 6: year is because of the unfortunate birthday incident of last August.

1135
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's a season.

1136
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 7: Evan's gotta tell his story about about his Valentine about

1137
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 7: about well birthday present, birthday President.

1138
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is a good story. Oh yeah.

1139
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 9: So a couple of weeks ago, Jess tells me that

1140
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 9: she would love to have, uh, We're going to the

1141
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 9: Bruins game on her birthday and she said that she

1142
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 9: would love to have a birthday message on the jumbo truck.

1143
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: So, being being the great maintenance at all, being.

1144
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 9: The great, being the great guy that I am, I

1145
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 9: call in a favor with the Bruins and get get

1146
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 9: it up on it. They want no our ticket wrap

1147
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 9: actually helped me out and I got a birthday message

1148
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 9: up on the jumbo tron. She texts me on Tuesday

1149
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 9: on her birthday as I'm driving into work and she goes,

1150
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 9: you didn't actually get my name up on the jumbo

1151
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 9: tron tonight, did you?

1152
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 12: And I was like, what do you mean?

1153
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 9: She was like, I'm gonna be embarrassed. I don't actually

1154
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 9: want you to do that.

1155
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my god, you told me

1156
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 6: you wanted me to do it, even hire me too late.

1157
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: So then it'd be nice.

1158
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 9: But no, no, no, no, no no no, So just

1159
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 9: to put a bow on it. We we get the

1160
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 9: message was it was the ship had already sailed, so

1161
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 9: the message was already up there. It doesn't say who

1162
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 9: it was from. It just says regards happy birthday.

1163
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 6: Jess ruins, nothing at help front is from Marshy.

1164
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: So so she was like, is is that for me? Maybe?

1165
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: Do you want it to be?

1166
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 13: Well?

1167
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 8: Was it something where you had to write the custom message?

1168
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 9: And I can show you what did email?

1169
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: I literally, yes, I love you forever, Evan. Well, maybe

1170
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: I did not.

1171
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 9: Regards happy birthday, just love Evan.

1172
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: That's not that hard.

1173
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 6: How many's There was no time, there was no room.

1174
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: Thanks for the sex. You didn't.

1175
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 9: Wow, that's my fiance.

1176
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 6: Good thing you didn't go Jesse. Okay, oh no, she

1177
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 6: doesn't like Jessica, but you would have really run out

1178
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 6: of space.

1179
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 9: Her parents are the only ones that call her Jessica,

1180
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 9: and like they say it like Jessica, you know, and

1181
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 9: I'm like, off limits.

1182
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: That's triggering, that's laying and Michael with me. Michael, all right,

1183
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 4: you get a lot of Michael's. That's my personal story

1184
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 4: for if I like mister birthday.

1185
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Let's get down to the keep going there on the

1186
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: age ticket hotline eight five five pats five hundred is

1187
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: the Ace ticket Hotline. We'll start with Nick in Australia.

1188
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 4: What's up Nick?

1189
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: Hey, guys. Good.

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00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 14: I another question for Evan and mine been something that

1191
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 14: we don't talk enough about the pass rush. So I

1192
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 14: don't know about the draft that I keep up with

1193
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 14: it too much, But is there anyone in the draft

1194
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 14: that we should look at getting or free agency because

1195
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 14: Jon's only getting older and I don't think that pass

1196
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 14: rush is ugly that good. So just wanting to get

1197
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 14: your opinion on what direction.

1198
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: That you go with edge rushers pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's important.

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00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 7: I think you could, you know, find I gotta admit,

1201
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 7: like I get a little bit tempted by I know

1202
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 7: Evan doesn't. But the Darius Robinson guy who is down

1203
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 7: at the senior ball, who's who's pretty badass.

1204
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he'd be a great fit for

1205
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 4: what they do, but he's probably late round one, early

1206
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: round two kind of guy. So I don't know. I

1207
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: think it's always bring built back.

1208
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: I'm sure he could take him.

1209
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 7: I no, right, but I just I think it's a

1210
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 7: long term important position. And you know, we we did

1211
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: a little mock draft video for fun there that I

1212
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 7: think will be out probably tomorrow, I guess.

1213
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: So it's just something to think about. Everybody's so distributed

1214
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: that will be distributed to them.

1215
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Speaker 11: I like.

1216
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 9: So this is actually something that I've been thinking about

1217
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 9: with free agency because we do our previews and I

1218
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 9: was I do offense and duced Do's defense, and I'm

1219
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 9: looking at the offense options and for the most part,

1220
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 9: the guys especially that are going to get tagged, are

1221
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 9: going to be out of the picture. T Higgins, you know,

1222
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 9: things like that. And I would just kind of rather

1223
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 9: than spend the money where the talent is right, like

1224
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 9: don't go chasing Nelson Agile or two point zero again.

1225
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 9: And you actually look at this edge rusher class and

1226
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 9: free agency is absolutely loaded. I mean, whether it's Bryce Huff,

1227
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 9: Josh Types or obviously Brian Burns and those guys at

1228
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 9: the top. But this edge rusher class and free agency

1229
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 9: is really.

1230
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Really bir It's the guy from Carolina that.

1231
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 9: You know, but like Jonathan Greenard, Brian Burns, Josh changed,

1232
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 9: not from Jacksonville, josh.

1233
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: Allah, what change?

1234
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: It used to be that Brian Burns is the baby

1235
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 6: who was complaining. Now it's that Mac Jones.

1236
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 9: I said, yeah, it's a really good free agency class

1237
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 9: at edge rusher, and I look a couple of years ago,

1238
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 9: Juden was easily their best signing. So like, my, maybe

1239
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 9: they reducts that again and they signed one of these

1240
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 9: edge rushers instead of paying a receiver.

1241
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I saw somebody say it's really hard

1242
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 7: to rebuild your offense through free agency, especially, so it's I.

1243
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: Like what Evan's saying.

1244
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 7: I think that those those positions should really be looked at,

1245
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 7: you know, retaining like just they need some long term

1246
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 7: stability along the defensive line because after this year, it's

1247
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 7: it's gonna be everybody's going.

1248
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 6: It's interesting to me, I think we could make a

1249
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 6: good case study about that. Is it harder to rebuild

1250
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 6: on one side or the other?

1251
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Now?

1252
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 6: Maybe specific when you need everything that the Patriots need

1253
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 6: an offense, you can't fix that in free agency. I mean,

1254
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 6: that's it's a non starter. But like, how many teams

1255
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: added a an alpha receiver and completely remade their offense.

1256
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: Including the Patriots Randy Moss.

1257
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 6: Right now, the Patriots added a lot. I mean, that's

1258
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 6: a great example of completely rebuilding your offense through free agency.

1259
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's an example though, Fred. I think of the

1261
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 4: ones that we just don't know, Like, you know, when

1262
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: you go get Moss and you know he's a distressed

1263
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: asset for another team that isn't actually on the free

1264
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 4: agency market. And yeah, you know I've had some, but

1265
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 4: I was Brown. Yeah, no right now. And that's but

1266
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: Fred's is just trying to figure out those moves. It's

1267
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 4: so hard to do. Those are somebody suggested Jack Conklin.

1268
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's building through veteran right.

1269
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 9: But my point, I guess is that someone in that

1270
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 9: receiver market is going to get disgruntled and become available.

1271
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 9: Last year wasn't quite you know, DeAndre Hopkins was probably

1272
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 9: the best one. It wasn't quite as big of a

1273
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 9: year for that. But over the last four or five years,

1274
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 9: whether it's Digs, you know, the guys, you guys named A. J. Brown,

1275
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill, whoever, someone's gonna not get someone's gonna get

1276
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 9: pissed off, and someone's gonna get traded.

1277
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 6: It's just a matter of you can hold rather than

1278
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 6: just take T Higgins or whoever.

1279
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: You know, Brandon Ayuk.

1280
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 6: You know, there's good receivers that Mike Evans, there's good

1281
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 6: receivers that are going to be on the free agent market.

1282
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 6: But I don't think it matters in terms of I'm

1283
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 6: with Fred. If you acquire a big time player and

1284
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 6: then you're gonna give him money, that's the same as

1285
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 6: a free agent.

1286
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1287
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 9: No, I agree with that, you know what I mean.

1288
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 6: And I don't really agree with the notion that it's

1289
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 6: harder to do that on offense, yeah than defense.

1290
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: I agree with that.

1291
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 9: I just think that you don't know who is available

1292
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 9: via the trade, right right, Yeah, Like I wouldn't want

1293
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 9: to try to remake my offensive line by signing like

1294
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 9: Tyron Smith.

1295
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 6: Right yeah, yeah, that's and that's I don't I don't

1296
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 6: think that makes a lot.

1297
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: Somebody in the mail bag had suggested Jack Conklin, who

1298
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: just signed a big deal with the with the Browns.

1299
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: But then you know, Devon Jones is kind of pushing

1300
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: him off the rock, you know, so could that be

1301
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 4: again he's a Browns guy, you know, those kind of

1302
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 4: moods that aren't enough of that kind of conjecture. I mean,

1303
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: we said everybody wants to just jump right into the

1304
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: third overall pick, but there's you know a lot of things.

1305
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine is with their list of

1306
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: stars that they have. At what point did these guys

1307
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: start you know, falling? You know, and it's super available.

1308
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 9: Brandon Yuka's getting there, so he's you know, his fifth

1309
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 9: year options next year, so they have him under contract

1310
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 9: for one more year. What about like Bosa, No, he's

1311
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 9: signed big money for a while. But the interesting thing

1312
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 9: about Brandon Nyuk is like he's more of that natural

1313
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 9: type of receiver, like a traditional type of receiver. Do

1314
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 9: they look at it and say we'd rather him than

1315
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 9: Deebo Samuel And does Deebo Samuel become available?

1316
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: It's interesting.

1317
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, I think the forty nine ers are

1318
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 9: just going to try to keep everybody, but at some

1319
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 9: point I agreed, at some point someone is going to

1320
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 9: get loose and isn't going to be able to be resigned.

1321
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, as much as I love him, I'm starting to

1322
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: think that way too. He's just too hurt too.

1323
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 6: There's a lot of wear and tear and what what

1324
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 6: do you think he was so upset about all those carries?

1325
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1326
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, right, Well, and the problem with him is

1327
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 9: that he needs to play that way to be effective.

1328
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 9: So if you're not giving him the ball on the

1329
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 9: on the jet sweeps and things like that.

1330
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 6: I'd take it. Oh, don't get me like, I think

1331
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 6: he's a good player, really good player, but I don't

1332
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 6: know how much longer he's going to be that now.

1333
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 6: I wouldn't thought, to be honest with you, I would

1334
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 6: have thought very similarly about Tyreek killing. He's kind of

1335
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 6: making that look look bad. He's had two amazing he

1336
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 6: said this next year is last year. No, but I'm

1337
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 6: just saying I would have thought that when Kansas City

1338
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 6: let him go, you probably had seen the best of him,

1339
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 6: and you didn't. You had two great years, Miami.

1340
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 9: This is for all these reasons. This is you know

1341
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 9: why I wonder if the Niners priorities Ayuk, who's more

1342
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 9: of that longevity, traditional you know, type of route runner,

1343
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 9: type of receiver, versus a guy like Deebo who might

1344
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 9: be starting to wear down a little bit. So I

1345
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 9: don't know. I just look at free agency trying to

1346
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 9: learn from the lessons of the lot of a couple

1347
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 9: of years ago of why some of the things didn't

1348
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 9: exactly work out. I think a lot of it is

1349
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 9: because they paid top dollar for like C plus talent,

1350
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 9: so I'd rather than pay Antoine Winfield junior.

1351
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 6: Do you see what they're gonna have to pay in

1352
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 6: this class.

1353
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 7: Again, like the one class you kind of like, oh,

1354
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 7: you look back on that with like romantic eyes and like, oh,

1355
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 7: you know, they got a bunch of like mid round

1356
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 7: mid you know, they filled a bunch of holes. But

1357
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 7: after twenty twenty one, it feels like get the talent,

1358
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 7: you know, like use free agent to get guys like

1359
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 7: Jude On who you know are going to make I mean,

1360
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 7: and Hunter Henry even for what.

1361
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 6: Boy like my boy's all growns up your family. You

1362
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: finally get it.

1363
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: Well, it took five years of watching the Patriots.

1364
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 6: Horses horses over pony s, as Tony says.

1365
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 7: Well, at least in free agency, you know, and it's

1366
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 7: it's that's I mean, use those draft picks, use those

1367
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 7: late round draft.

1368
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: Picks to you know, take those kind of swings on

1369
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 4: those of those kind of guys.

1370
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 6: Just take any other day. You know, the fifty year

1371
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: option thing, it's just a first round picks. What do

1372
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 6: you would you think it would make any sense if

1373
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 6: instead of just first round picks they said you could

1374
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 6: use that on one member of the draft class. Hmm,

1375
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 6: instead of it having to be a first round pick.

1376
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 9: Well, how much is it? Does it pay relative based

1377
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 9: off of their production for the first four years or

1378
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 9: does it continue on the same wage skill? Yeah, because

1379
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 9: it's not fair to the player at that point. Like

1380
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 9: I think it's ridiculous. You know, the workI wage scouts.

1381
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 9: I can't believe the NFLPA agreed to that to begin with.

1382
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 6: But it's terrible.

1383
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 9: It's terrible.

1384
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 6: I'm terrible players union, it really is.

1385
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?

1386
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 6: But I hadn't thought about the details of how they

1387
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 6: get how that shifty year off.

1388
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 11: Hey Fellas, Hello, he heard your rent this morning?

1389
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 9: Which one I'm glad are you? And it about everything.

1390
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 14: I had to draw the line, bro, we have to

1391
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 14: draw the line.

1392
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: I watched him to get to scouting and.

1393
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 9: That's come out great.

1394
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Mate.

1395
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 15: You watch him when you comes to scout.

1396
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: Get ready for the combine or get ready for the draft.

1397
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 14: We watch them every weekend because either week.

1398
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 11: Cooking out or way at the bar, and what we

1399
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 11: see is what we see.

1400
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 9: You love them because his size and a strong arm

1401
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 9: and okay, so so only people from Los Angeles are

1402
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 9: allowed to have an opinion on William.

1403
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 6: I've watched him play plenty of games. I'm very impressed

1404
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 6: with them. Listen, that doesn't mean I'm right. There's a

1405
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 6: lot of guys that I've been wrong about over the years,

1406
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 6: but it's not because I didn't watch them play so right.

1407
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 9: That's like, I think my point is elder and I'm

1408
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 9: like being an a hole. I realize that, But my

1409
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 9: point is is that we all watched the same We're

1410
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 9: all watching the guy play, We're all watching the same games.

1411
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 9: We've all watched him play. We all have different opinions.

1412
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 9: That's fine.

1413
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 6: We're not all required to see everything the same.

1414
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know we're not.

1415
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 15: But will it make a bit with you, Evan, I'm

1416
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 15: gonna make one with Paul wished them out a bit.

1417
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: You know.

1418
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 6: If I owe you something, send me your address. I'll

1419
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 6: send it to you. I don't have Matt Morrell send it,

1420
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 6: though I can vouch for Matt Morell. He showed me today,

1421
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: set out numerous multiple.

1422
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: You're all getting your six shirt today if we draft them.

1423
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give I gave you about nine games, and

1424
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: you see what we're talking about. If you're right you.

1425
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a little I'm

1426
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 6: gonna be a little stubborn though more than I need

1427
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 6: to see him quarter I'm not gonna saddle him. Like

1428
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 6: if he gets stuck here with nothing around him, I'm

1429
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 6: not gonna blame that just on the quarterback.

1430
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 9: I just think, Okay, we'll be fair.

1431
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 15: I did I give him a year?

1432
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 14: Give you a year?

1433
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 6: I think how about three? Can we Can we wait

1434
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 6: three years for a draft?

1435
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 4: For three?

1436
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 6: You're not going anywhere, bigie.

1437
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, you're watching your phone and you're driving your truck.

1438
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 6: I mean that's come on now, No, seriously, you gotta

1439
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 6: give him a couple of Like okay.

1440
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 14: On the.

1441
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

1442
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 11: I told you year you won't get rid of.

1443
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 15: And I told you the people to get drafted before him,

1444
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 15: and he was.

1445
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 6: And I said that that Nikhil Harry would be better

1446
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 6: than the guys that were drafted after.

1447
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: Him, to.

1448
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: Harry's good.

1449
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 15: But I said, the guys are drafted after Harry and

1450
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 15: before Harry a whole lot better than he will be.

1451
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 6: If I owe you something, Eldred, I'd be happy to

1452
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 6: pay up. But I like, I literally referred to Harry

1453
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 6: as a bust in ot as ot as before he

1454
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 6: before he got to his first training camp, I said,

1455
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 6: this guy can't run routes, he can't get open.

1456
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 9: I just think one thing that you have to do

1457
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 9: with the draft, and this is why I picked fun

1458
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 9: at the people from North Carolina. The college production and

1459
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 9: winning and losing in college does not make you a

1460
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 9: good NFL prospect. It doesn't make a difference. So if

1461
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 9: Jaden Daniels won the Heisman Trophy, that doesn't guarantee that

1462
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 9: he's going to be a good NFL player. I think

1463
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 9: it's a good prospect. I'm just saying that college production

1464
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 9: and college success and the stats that you put up

1465
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 9: in college, that's not how That's not what we're doing here.

1466
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 6: Well it's not the only thing, but I like this,

1467
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 6: it's almost nothing.

1468
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: I like to see people succeeding well.

1469
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 6: They've all succeeded. All three of those guys have succeeded well.

1470
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general, I'm not just talking about

1471
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: those three guys. I mean it's good to see guys

1472
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: have production.

1473
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 9: When you draft based off of college production, you get

1474
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 9: into trouble.

1475
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 6: I'm but I would just say that. And again, Tim

1476
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 6: Boyle excluded all college quarterbacks that are up for the

1477
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 6: NFL Draft succeeded. They had stats fill in Eastern who

1478
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 6: threw more picks than touchdowns. Because I couldn't believe it

1479
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 6: when I when I was reading that stuff about I

1480
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,479
Speaker 6: didn't know anything about Tim Boyle. That game that he played,

1481
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 6: the Black Friday game. He he was uh, you know,

1482
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 6: they were talking. He's like, he wasn't even good in college.

1483
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 6: How was he even in the league. I think he's

1484
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 6: Rogers's buddy. He's another one of those guys.

1485
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Fill in Eastern North Carolina. I'm a very long time

1486
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: listener since right around when the show started. Probably I've

1487
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: been in North Carolina since about the time, and I'm

1488
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: blown away by the idiots down here talking about Drake

1489
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: May The people from here saying he can't play are

1490
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 1: no doubt North Carolina State or Virginia Tech fans. Both

1491
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: fan bases hate UNC with every fiber of there being.

1492
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: They spend more time talking about UNC than their own teams,

1493
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: especially North Carolina State. Drake is a great kid, a leader,

1494
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: and talented. He and Sam Howell struggled the last three

1495
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: years behind a very poor pass blocking line and limited

1496
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: skill talent. He has plenty to work on, especially his footwork,

1497
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: but he should be our number one choice. Oh there's

1498
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: there's a North Carolina vote for it.

1499
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 6: I like all three of those guys. By the way,

1500
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 6: there's just I think Evan said it about a half

1501
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 6: hour ago. Just there's a lot of differences between the three.

1502
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 6: They're not all the same style.

1503
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just not even allowing myself really to invest

1504
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 7: in Kayleb Williams because I just I just can't see

1505
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 7: it the way one.

1506
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 9: Or two And he cried that one time and he

1507
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 9: totally out on him, just like, why can't I just

1508
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 9: wish Kayleb Williams that the conversation was because he does

1509
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 9: have flawses as a player, like there's no perfect prospect,

1510
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 9: but we don't like here people talk about those things

1511
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 9: because it's all about the crying and all, you know,

1512
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 9: his attitude and this and that and the other thing.

1513
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 6: If I had the people like these North Carolina people

1514
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 6: calling me about Caleb Williams talking about how he holds

1515
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 6: the ball too long and tries to extend every play,

1516
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 6: plays hero ball. It doesn't play within the structure of

1517
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 6: the offense. I would take all of that, yeah, over

1518
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 6: that he cried after the Utah game or the Washington whatever,

1519
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 6: And all of those.

1520
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 9: Are legitimate knocks I would say about Caleb Williams.

1521
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 6: And he's a little smaller than i'd like. He's six

1522
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 6: to one.

1523
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Willson Cranston.

1524
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 5: What's up?

1525
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: Well?

1526
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 16: How are we doing today?

1527
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: Fellas?

1528
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1529
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: Well, hey lady, Hey, hey lady.

1530
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 16: I want to touch on the three quarterbacks today.

1531
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 6: Oh.

1532
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 16: I think Caleb Williams. He is the best talent in

1533
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 16: the right now, but I'm a little bit scared of

1534
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 16: him to play in our market, considering how quick we

1535
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 16: were willing to do away with Matt Jones. Oh, but

1536
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 16: I think I'd be happy with either Drake may or

1537
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Speaker 16: Jayden Daniels. But the question I had today is, would

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 16: you guys be more comfortable with Drake may or with

1539
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 16: Jadon Daniels, Because what makes me nervous is that Jaydon

1540
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 16: Daniels had Elik Neighbors as the safety blanket, and he's

1541
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 16: one of the best receivers in the NCAA right now

1542
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 16: as well. So would you guys rather have somebody who's

1543
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 16: kind of isolated as far as known talent.

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01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 11: With Drake May or would you guys rather.

1545
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: Go Jayan Daniels whoever Ben McAdoo wants, That's who I want.

1546
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 9: But I think that's the point that I'm trying to

1547
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 9: make is that next, well, comparing Drake May's stats in

1548
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 9: college to Jayden Daniels is not Apple's Orange. It's not

1549
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 9: a fair because not only does he have Leake Neighbors,

1550
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 9: he also has Brian Thomas, who's also going to go

1551
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 9: in the first round at receiver from LSU, and Michael

1552
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 9: Pennix has like sixteen guys that are going to go

1553
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 9: get drafted on his offense. So if you had put

1554
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 9: Drake May in LSU's offense and he's throwing them Elik Neighbors,

1555
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 9: he's throwing to Brian Thomas, and he's got all these

1556
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 9: weapons around him, like, you don't know.

1557
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: How it would have looked.

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 6: I think there's also a lot of intangible factors involved

1559
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 6: with that kind of stuff. With the amount that is

1560
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 6: on Drake May as compared you know, like this year,

1561
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 6: the amount that and this would be a red flag

1562
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 6: to me on Caleb Williams, like he had the great

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: year where he won the Heisman and he's the guy

1564
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 6: he's in the spotlight and he didn't handle the spot

1565
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 6: He didn't have as good a year his last year

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 6: as he did two years ago. That would be a

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 6: red flag for me. But that's football, like he you know,

1568
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 6: maybe he wasn't ready for that amount of scrutiny. He

1569
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 6: sort of put himself in that spotlight with the you know,

1570
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 6: the stuff he did with Notre Dame on his fingernails

1571
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 6: and things like that, and then he played by far

1572
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 6: his worst game against Notre Dame. Like that would worry

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Speaker 6: me a little bit.

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Speaker 5: And we're back with another edition of the Halftime Show.

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Speaker 5: I am joined by a new potential co host. Is

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Speaker 5: this the audition? Does he stay a long time? We

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Speaker 5: got Chris Cassidy say hello, what's up? I snagged this

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Speaker 5: kid right from his desk. He wasn't ready for it,

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Speaker 5: so I'm putting him on your gun here. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: all right. We're gonna start with some Trivia's always Chris

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Speaker 5: don't answer? All right? Question one? Who was the halftime

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 5: performer for Super Bowl thirty six?

1606
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 5: Question two? What number was Patriots receiver Michael Floyd. All

1608
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 5: he's known for is that big block. And then number three,

1609
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 5: who caught the first pass for the Patriots of Super

1610
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 5: Bowl forty nine. All right, send your answers in the

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 5: web Radio Patriots dot com. Chris, I switched it up

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01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 5: on your little there. Yeah, yeah, and forty nine, forty

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 5: nine and Chris, we are gonna do some start bench cuts,

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 5: all right, and your task for the day was come

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 5: up with some start bench cuts. Let's discuss them, all right.

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 12: Let me thank here for a quick moment.

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01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: For you.

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 12: Let's doo.

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01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 18: I'm gonna start with three super bowl all right, all right,

1620
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 18: first one super Bowl I think it was thirty nine.

1621
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 18: Start super Bowl thirty nine, super Bowl forty nine, and

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01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 18: super Bowl fifty one.

1623
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 5: It's easy money y, spice it up a little. I'm

1624
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 5: going to start forty nine. That's like one of the

1625
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 5: bad best pass teams of all times, and I think

1626
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 5: they played one of the best teams like that defense

1627
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 5: leading to boom all time bench fifty one, cut thirty nine,

1628
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 5: like good team.

1629
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 12: I just wasn't was it thirty ninety nine? It was

1630
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 12: a thirty eight.

1631
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: I get a mixed up too. We won so many yeah,

1632
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 5: I think thirty nine. It was yeah, yeah, alright, well yeah, yeah, no,

1633
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 5: you agree. What's your what's yours for me?

1634
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 12: Thirty nine, forty nine, fifty.

1635
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 5: One, fifty one?

1636
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 4: Three?

1637
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 9: Correct?

1638
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 5: Okay that I.

1639
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 18: Would start that one, all right, forty nine, I would

1640
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 18: bench that one, and I would cut thirty nine.

1641
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 5: See'd start fifty one.

1642
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 12: I would start fifty one. Okay, okay, okay, I bench

1643
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 12: forty nine and I cut thirty nine.

1644
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 5: The real question is how old are you in thirty nine?

1645
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah?

1646
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 12: That was three years old. Three years old.

1647
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: You watched three games of glory for that one day.

1648
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 18: I did.

1649
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 12: Oh, I remember, Oh you should thirty six, thirty six.

1650
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 12: I was not even one yet.

1651
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 5: You're gonna scare the listeners.

1652
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 12: Not even one yet.

1653
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: All right?

1654
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 5: What you got next? Next?

1655
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 18: I would say, top three. I'm gonna list three receivers.

1656
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 18: Are three big catches from previous games, all right, and

1657
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 18: you're in at the start bench cut all right. First

1658
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 18: Edelman's catch against the Falcons.

1659
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 12: And Super Bowl fifty one. There you go, there you

1660
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 12: go get my Super bowls right.

1661
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 18: Second, Camberl Tompkins overtime sorry, end of the fourth quarter

1662
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 18: catch against the Saints. Third one is Gronk over the

1663
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 18: middle against the Broncos, and I think it was twenty thirteen.

1664
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds about right. Ye see, yeah, that's right. All right.

1665
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go star Edelman. And this is just because

1666
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 5: the moments, the Super Bowl big moments, you know, and

1667
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 5: you're gonna bench Kemberrill Tompkins. I remember I was in

1668
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 5: college for that one great great day that that Also

1669
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 5: the best part about that catch was just the drive

1670
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 5: by Brady's throwing that I meet the Kemberll Tompkins and

1671
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 5: Austin Coley, so that one and then got to cut

1672
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 5: the Gronk catch although it was great with this robotic arm, So.

1673
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 12: I agree with that.

1674
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 18: I think it's a really close toss up between Kemberle

1675
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 18: and Julian to be honest with you, all right, I

1676
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 18: feel that way because I don't know, it's just obviously

1677
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 18: the Super Bowl big moment. You have to start that

1678
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 18: one for Julian. But for me, with that Cambervill catch,

1679
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 18: I just remember as a fan, like a young fan.

1680
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1681
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 12: Like again, I think that was also twenty thirteen season.

1682
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 12: Just crazy how it just sticks in my memory.

1683
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 5: It will be interesting if you put like go at

1684
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 5: the edeline and catch be out. If it wasn't in

1685
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl exact, then then then then we have

1686
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 5: a discussion there. Yeah, agree to the moment the moment,

1687
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 5: I agree. All right, let's get one more.

1688
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: And one more?

1689
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh god, it's a lot of pressure tastes.

1690
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 18: All right, well, I'll just let's do one not sport. Really,

1691
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 18: I'm gonna do something crazy dinner foods.

1692
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 5: Okay, you know I love food.

1693
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 18: All Right, we'll start Sorry, no, I'm not starting, but

1694
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 18: we'll go chicken, and we'll go steak, and then we'll

1695
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 18: go let's go haddock.

1696
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 12: Let's start haddock in there?

1697
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 5: Do you want to just do fish?

1698
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1699
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 5: Either is a type of chicken when we do it

1700
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,759
Speaker 5: like chicken tenders?

1701
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 18: Sure, however you want to, all right, let's do let's

1702
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 18: do primary, let's do chicken tenders, and let's do let's

1703
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 18: do I don't know, fried trip.

1704
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 12: Trip all right, right, totally random.

1705
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 5: I'm starting tendies, okay, like, let's starting tendies and I'm

1706
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 5: benching the prime rib and I'm cut in the shrimp,

1707
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 5: cut the shrimp. It's tough though it's close.

1708
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 18: All right, I would start see, I would start that

1709
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 18: prime rim. Like if you get a good piece of

1710
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 18: prime rib and you're you're eating that, it's so good.

1711
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 18: You got the juices and stuff. I'll bench the tendees.

1712
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 18: I'm cutting the fried trimp. I'm actually allergic to shrimp tease.

1713
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: Now I know.

1714
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 12: There you go. That's why I'm calling it all right.

1715
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 12: Thanks for joining.

1716
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 5: Remember I said your trivia answers to the web of

1717
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 5: Patriots dot com. Man. Let's get back to the show.

1718
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Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

1719
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Speaker 19: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

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Speaker 19: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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1722
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Speaker 6: And now great moments in.

1723
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Speaker 4: History?

1724
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 20: Am I allowed to call out other PU listeners slash callers?

1725
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 20: If so, I would like to call out Todd in

1726
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 20: North Carolina for being a fraud whoa a week or

1727
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 20: two ago, you called him out for all the.

1728
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 4: Background noise when he called into the show. He claimed

1729
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 4: he didn't know why there was so much noise, and

1730
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: then he might have been doing dishes or something. I

1731
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 4: have a hard time believing this story. Why would he

1732
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 4: know well, why would he not know what he was

1733
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 4: doing when he called the show.

1734
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Speaker 20: It seems like something you remember, Love you Todd, just

1735
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 20: having fun and then he calls us out for our

1736
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 20: background noise.

1737
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Speaker 1: So let's go to Todd in North Carolina. Todd, if

1738
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: you called it.

1739
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 6: Perfect, If you did that on purpose, that was good,

1740
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 6: well done, my friend. No, I don't think you did

1741
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 6: it on purpose. All right, that's another great moment.

1742
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1751
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: England Patriots. So big President's Dale's President's Day Sales. When

1752
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: is that Monday?

1753
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 4: Monday?

1754
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: Okay, head down to Bob's, but be here it's it's

1755
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: on a holiday.

1756
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 6: I was just about to say that I'm careful, Oh, Flora,

1757
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 6: next week the South where you're going college visits, college

1758
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 6: visits so exciting, hoping to get recruited.

1759
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 4: You're gonna go by UNC Chapel Hill.

1760
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 9: Do you still have eligibility?

1761
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 17: We are?

1762
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 4: Are you stopping and see Drake may there?

1763
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 6: Although there was a kid at be you that played

1764
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 6: like six years, so I think they are a little

1765
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 6: lenient on the baseball side of it. By the way,

1766
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 6: we think you play three years for Suffolk three years

1767
01:16:59,680 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 6: would be.

1768
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: We would be remiss if we didn't mention what happened

1769
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 1: in the chiefs prayed yesterday.

1770
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 5: That's awful.

1771
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 6: That's a good point, Freddie.

1772
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the count is now, but

1773
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: I know at least one person died and a few

1774
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: people are in critical condition.

1775
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 7: And it sounds like three people were arrested and that

1776
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 7: it was just kind of like a beef beef between

1777
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 7: these three people.

1778
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were just I guess shooting everywhere.

1779
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 4: You know, No, it sounds like you know, one one

1780
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: woman DJ there lost your life. I think everybody else

1781
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 4: is expected to make a full recovery. But yeah, I

1782
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 4: wish I could say I'm surprised. This is what happens now.

1783
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it sucked, you know, because it was a

1784
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: day of celebration and then it ends in tragedy and

1785
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: that's not good. Nope, Yeah, it's sad, all right. Eight

1786
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: five five pass five hundred is the ace ticket? Hutline,

1787
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: Pat in Agawan, No, that's that's not the one. I'm sorry, Pat,

1788
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: I'll get to your a little later. But Speed writes

1789
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: in speak he said, I emailed before the Super Bowl

1790
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: saying I was rooting for Kansas City for the petty

1791
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: reason of not wanting the net neutral quarterback idea to

1792
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: gain traction, which I'm glad it didn't. And what was

1793
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: a pretty sure test of it. You look at this

1794
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: century for average quarterbacks who won it all, and there's

1795
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, maybe the Wentz Folks duo, although

1796
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 1: I wonder if Wentz was above average, and the injury

1797
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,520
Speaker 1: that year in stalled his career. But those are exceptions

1798
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: to the rule that net neutral quarterbacks don't generally win

1799
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowls? Right? How does Barth handle such facts?

1800
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 9: Well, when you go to overtime at the Super Bowl

1801
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 9: and you're like three plays away from winning, are you

1802
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 9: really winning the argument?

1803
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 6: Speed. That's what I said on Tuesday. If I believed

1804
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 6: in that side, nothing that happened on Sunday, would.

1805
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 4: You just look at who won and you said, this

1806
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: is the truth, this is the way to do it. Again.

1807
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 6: If you do it that way, why do you bother watching?

1808
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 6: Just wait to see who wins? And that's the opinion fact,

1809
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 6: Like school board, Felger right, So board, a couple.

1810
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 4: Two plays go in different way, the result changes, it

1811
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: changes all the sudden.

1812
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 9: We should build our team with the seventh round pick.

1813
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 6: And again, you know when you just get clouded by

1814
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 6: wins and losses. So again, like Evan said, the game

1815
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 6: easily could have gone the other way. I said out

1816
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, like if I was Alex and I believed

1817
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 6: in that net neutral thing, nothing that happened in the

1818
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 6: game would. But I would say if I didn't believe

1819
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 6: in the net neutral thing, like I don't, I would

1820
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 6: point to the luck factor of winning the first two

1821
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 6: games in the playoffs, largely because your quarterback wasn't ready

1822
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 6: to play in the first half of both of those games.

1823
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 6: He played well when he had to. To his credit,

1824
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 6: he came up big in the fourth quarter. But we said,

1825
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 6: if they can. If they play the same way, they're

1826
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: probably gonna lose to Kansas City, And they kind of did.

1827
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, no trivia? Oh okay, we's all right.

1828
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 6: It's my favorite time.

1829
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: And I was just wondering if you had trivia you

1830
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: want to just read it?

1831
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 6: Don't you just read them out?

1832
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: You could be part of the show. You have to

1833
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: print it out. I know you're having printer troubles in there.

1834
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: Who was the halftime performer for Super Bowl thirty six?

1835
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 4: You too too?

1836
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 6: Come on, get out, Yeah, come on, let's.

1837
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: Make what number did Michael Floyd?

1838
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 6: Fifteen?

1839
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, fifteen? I was gonna say eighteen. I knew that

1840
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: wasn't right. I think I should say what number was

1841
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 4: Michael Floyd?

1842
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 6: Fifteen?

1843
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: Fourteen?

1844
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 4: Fourteen, fourteen?

1845
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: And who caught the first pass for the Patriots in

1846
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty nine?

1847
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: Which one was that?

1848
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 4: Brandon Lafel, Yeah, forty nine?

1849
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: With which one?

1850
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 9: Shane Veren?

1851
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: Is that that the Seahawks?

1852
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1853
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 1: No, Jules, it was Julian Jules.

1854
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 4: I got Gronka for an answer that makes sense? How

1855
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 4: could that be?

1856
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 9: Well, we guessed everybody else, So all right, winners will

1857
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 9: get their T shirts.

1858
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 6: I kind of went into that question thinking that you

1859
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 6: know it was an obscure. Yeah, Rod Rutlicks.

1860
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 11: You know.

1861
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: Robert, speaking of games l has won from Wisconsin. This

1862
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: is an either or game. Uh, Either or take a

1863
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: quarterback at three and end up with a J. Cutler

1864
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: level player, or trade down and leave the first round

1865
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: with only a left tackle Jake Cutler.

1866
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1867
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: I guess j Cutler.

1868
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 4: I guess.

1869
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 6: I mean it's a good Cutler level player has some arm,

1870
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 6: but yeah, I'll take the left tack.

1871
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 4: Does he have his kind of like attitude smoking Jacobs?

1872
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 9: Well, that's different, he said player exactly. That's why I

1873
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 9: said Jake Color.

1874
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: So he has J Cutler's ability. He's really funny, Jay

1875
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 6: Cutler with good mind.

1876
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: So you're gonna use your third round pick and you're

1877
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: gonna end up with a J. Cutler level player.

1878
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 6: Talent, Yeah, talent.

1879
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 9: Jake Color is definitely talented.

1880
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: If you're gonna tell me he has JA Cutler's work ethic,

1881
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 6: then I'll take the tackle.

1882
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: Well that's what I think he meant.

1883
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 4: What he said football. That's a good it's a good

1884
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 4: it's a it's a really good example.

1885
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Right, let me rephrase it you're gonna have the type

1886
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:52,759
Speaker 1: of career Jay Cutler.

1887
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 6: Hell, I'm still kind of going with I can get

1888
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 6: a tackle anywhere.

1889
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: All right, to make it make it to nine, I

1890
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: went round.

1891
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 6: Tackles are pretty good.

1892
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll try to read this question.

1893
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 4: Just have another conversation.

1894
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: Make it to nine wins next year, scraping by to

1895
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: barely beat only one playoff team, or have another top

1896
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: three pick next year.

1897
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 9: Top three pick.

1898
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, top three pick.

1899
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 18: I think.

1900
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: So we're going to have to listen to the tank

1901
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: it all year from.

1902
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 4: How about like you do, but you win like you know,

1903
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: two or out of your last three and you show some.

1904
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take the nine wins.

1905
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: Me too.

1906
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 6: I'll take the nine wins, but that means because that

1907
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 6: means they've made some additions to the roster that worked.

1908
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 6: I'll take the nine wins.

1909
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1910
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 4: Next year, I want I want to start.

1911
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 6: You tell me that you wouldn't think that that was

1912
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 6: amazing to win nine games?

1913
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 4: You're expected. But he wants, yeah, get it all at once.

1914
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: I know, question I want to start.

1915
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: I want to start.

1916
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 6: I don't know about your recent hires, man, they're way

1917
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 6: too You.

1918
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: Want to start developing a winning culture. Not a losing culture.

1919
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 9: I don't think. I don't think I count as a

1920
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 9: recent higher No, I.

1921
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 6: Mean, listen to me.

1922
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 4: I think Paul's right though, like something had to go

1923
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 4: right and they were, you know.

1924
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 6: So they like, so if that team's gonna win nine

1925
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 6: games next year, that means they hit on some draft picks.

1926
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 6: But that wasn't hit on some free agency and Gerd

1927
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 6: Mayo was pretty good.

1928
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 9: That was I would take that. That wasn't exactly what

1929
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 9: the question was.

1930
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: He said, making the nine wins scraping by to barely

1931
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: beat only one playoff like.

1932
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 9: A bad nine win team, I'll take.

1933
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 6: But that means all of those things happened. They are

1934
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 6: not capable right now of doing that.

1935
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 9: That's not the way I took the question when you

1936
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 9: say scrapping by. But I'm just looking at you finger

1937
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 9: and brought. But you're going from four they last year?

1938
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 9: Have I agree?

1939
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 6: They lost to the backups last year. That's why they

1940
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 6: went from seven wins to four.

1941
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 9: That's twenty twenty two. Like, I don't need another twenty

1942
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 9: twenty two.

1943
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's all dominate the regular season, but choking

1944
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs like Baltimore or have a ten point lead

1945
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But Kyle Shanahan is your coach?

1946
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 9: Z strays for no reason?

1947
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 6: I know, got how about your guy? How about your

1948
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 6: guy firing his defensive coordinate?

1949
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 4: It's pretty fun pretty funny.

1950
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 9: There's there's more to that story.

1951
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, of course there is. Bill Belichick's going to

1952
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 6: replace him.

1953
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 9: No, No, they had already. He had already taken over

1954
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 9: some of the defensive game planning and stuff like that.

1955
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 6: Showed couldn't stop it that they had some issues, had

1956
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 6: some issues.

1957
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: Christian in North Carolina says, why isn't Jayden Daniels a

1958
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: fit for a VP? Isn't Lamar Jackson's offense now very

1959
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: play action heavy and run based. I don't get why

1960
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be a fit in an A v P offense.

1961
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1962
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson under center a lot.

1963
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 9: Now they run pistol, which that's how you get your

1964
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 9: play action, which we've talked about in the past, is

1965
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 9: a way to adapt it.

1966
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 5: You know.

1967
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 9: Van Pelt's offense is traditional under center, hard play action.

1968
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 9: Off of that, it's just you're not not really a fit.

1969
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 4: It's just a officer, right, I mean, it's perfect for

1970
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco.

1971
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 6: That's like what he did, and even then he threw

1972
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 6: one hundred interceptions.

1973
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: I like Flacco, it is what it is, Jordan writes

1974
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: in I know there was talk or a report out

1975
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: there that said it's likely the Patriots are trading Mac Jones.

1976
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: We know that there was interest from the forty nine

1977
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: ers when Mack was coming out. Do you think it's

1978
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: a potential landing spot for him? If not the forty

1979
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: nine ers, where do you think Mack could end up?

1980
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 7: I don't really think the forty nine ers, just because

1981
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 7: brock Purty seems so contemporary to him. It just seems

1982
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 7: like a weird kind of combination.

1983
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 6: Can I just guys pick at that again?

1984
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 4: Sure, Like, do we really believe that that that the

1985
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 4: forty nine ers really wanted Mac?

1986
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 11: No?

1987
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 6: No, because you know, I just they they moved up

1988
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 6: from twelve to three and took another quarterback. Is that

1989
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 6: just because of John Lynch? That's what everybody's saying, Like

1990
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan wants to fight John Lynch still to this

1991
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 6: day because he didn't do that. Like, I just don't

1992
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 6: believe it.

1993
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: I don't believe it. I'll just say what I don't

1994
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 4: see is I don't see the way they got back

1995
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: party planning. I don't see Mac Jones plan that way.

1996
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 4: Like Ma mac Jones, they will rolling out and you know,

1997
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 4: doing bootleg stuff like that's not mac Jones.

1998
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 9: Brock Party definitely has more mobility than Mac and like

1999
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 9: mobility that he can actually tap into. Like I think

2000
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 9: if they ran a race then maybe it would be

2001
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 9: pretty close. But you know, actual in game mobility, Brock

2002
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 9: Parties definitely moves around better.

2003
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 6: I mean, I just I just pushed back on the whole,

2004
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 6: like push. Kyle Shanahan wanted mac Jones, that's why they

2005
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 6: moved up, and John Lynch overruled him.

2006
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: It's possible.

2007
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 4: I just don't why is that.

2008
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 6: I didn't even have to move because I don't think

2009
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 6: you make a move that high in the draft for

2010
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 6: a specific guy and then don't take that guy. Well

2011
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 6: maybe I don't think that makes any sense at all.

2012
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 4: And there was no buzz. He was tough three guys.

2013
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. See, maybe the part about Shanahan liking

2014
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: mac Jones is true, but maybe they moved up to

2015
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: get Trey Lance.

2016
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's fine. I'll accept that. Yeah,

2017
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 6: that's not the story though. The story is that Shanahan

2018
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 6: was pissed because he wanted mac Jones, but he was written.

2019
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 9: Maybe they didn't want to do the trade.

2020
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 4: I don't believe that you liked Lancelie. I don't think.

2021
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't think guy.

2022
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, because it would have taken him.

2023
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't his call. Yes it is.

2024
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 6: You can't be the god. Sorry, you can't be the

2025
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 6: god of football and not have a b.

2026
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 11: No.

2027
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: But like, okay, so in any organ say you get

2028
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 1: to draft, I apologize, you get to draft, and there's.

2029
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 6: This huge argument and you know, listen, Fredett, Well, Fred,

2030
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 6: you're right. I don't know. I don't know for sure.

2031
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 6: I just don't believe it. I don't believe that you

2032
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 6: go from twelve to three to target a guy and

2033
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 6: then change your mind and not take the guy. I

2034
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 6: don't believe.

2035
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

2036
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 6: But that's the way it's written.

2037
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: I can I can see Shanahan liking mac Jones because

2038
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: he's that net neutral quarterback coming out of and in

2039
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: my se I think, and in my system. And then

2040
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: I could see Lynch liking the guy with more intangibles

2041
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: and more skill, and then the owner saying, we're gonna

2042
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: go with Trey Lank.

2043
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: You can't trade up the three. It's taking that neutral

2044
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 4: guy though, right, Like, No, I don't know, that's part

2045
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 4: of it.

2046
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 6: May not be accurate, but that's the but that's the story.

2047
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 6: That's what we're pushing back on.

2048
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 9: I think the forty nine Ers trade up was it

2049
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 9: didn't work out, obviously, but the idea behind it was

2050
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 9: really smart because they already had Jimmy Garoppolo, so they

2051
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 9: had the average quarterback and they took a big swing

2052
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 9: on getting somebody that had a little bit more ceiling

2053
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 9: and it didn't work.

2054
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 4: And I think that the the.

2055
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 6: I don't know, the attraction for Shanahan, if it was

2056
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 6: true to mac Jones, is that he had the team

2057
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 6: already and he was the most quote unquote NFL Right.

2058
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: I agree, and that's why I I that's why I

2059
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: can see Shanahan liking mac Jones.

2060
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 6: I Evnan just told you why that was irrelevant because

2061
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 6: you didn't need a guy that that year.

2062
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: Well, Garoppolos always hurt and maybe they just didn't think

2063
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: he had it.

2064
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 6: I agree with Fred that there's a I know that

2065
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 6: mac Jones didn't.

2066
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 9: I think there was really they didn't.

2067
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Nobody knew it at the time.

2068
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 9: That the forty nine ers would have your would have

2069
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 9: taken mac Jones at twelve if they had never traded up.

2070
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 4: That's different.

2071
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 9: I think that there's a really good chance that he

2072
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 9: would have been the pick there.

2073
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 6: But the story, and I agree with Mike, is that

2074
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 6: mac Jones was his guy, Like I have my choice

2075
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 6: of these five guys, mac Jones is the guy, and

2076
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 6: I don't believe that because I think he would have

2077
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 6: taken them. That's all. That's all. That's that's the only

2078
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 6: part of it that I disagree with, not whether or

2079
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 6: not they felt like he was ready or not.

2080
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I could see them, I could see them being.

2081
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 6: I don't think Kyle Shannahan thought he was the best

2082
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 6: quarterback in the draft and then didn't take him at three.

2083
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Well, assuming it was all his decision, him and Lynch

2084
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 1: worked that way, Okay, But wasn't part of the story

2085
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 1: that Lynch disagreed. No, No, they all liked mac Jones. No,

2086
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: so they didn't like mac Jones.

2087
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 6: No, Shanahan liked mac Jones. Okay, I don't believe that.

2088
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 6: That's the part I don't believe.

2089
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: You don't believe.

2090
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 6: I think they were in agreement.

2091
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: Okay, oh, okay.

2092
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 6: I believe that he wanted me.

2093
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 9: I believe that he liked Mac Jones. I don't know

2094
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 9: if he liked him at three, But you just look

2095
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 9: at the quarterbacks that they they've had play there, Jimmy Garoppolo,

2096
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 9: Brock Purty like Mac Jones, and again brock Percy.

2097
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 6: I'm say, I don't know what the what the actual

2098
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 6: truth is. I'm just telling you that's from afar. It

2099
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 6: makes no sense to me.

2100
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I could see ship.

2101
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe that is what happened. Maybe you're

2102
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 6: exactly right, and Lynch overruled him.

2103
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't like.

2104
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 6: I just don't believe that story.

2105
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Craig writes in about Jayden Daniels, if he was twenty

2106
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: five pounds heavier, all things being equal, would your evaluations

2107
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: of him changed?

2108
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 11: I like.

2109
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: Daniels has likely always been the skinniest guy in the team.

2110
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: Do you think he has learned how to elude hard hits?

2111
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky was the weakest, skinniest player one hundred and

2112
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: seventy pounds. Opposing players say he was impossible to hit

2113
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: hard because he was like checking a rope.

2114
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 4: Because Daniels had.

2115
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 6: The greatest super player of all time.

2116
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 9: We talked about this a little bit on Catch twenty two.

2117
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 9: But the concerns about Jayden Daniels's frame and like taking

2118
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 9: big hits, I don't have those, Like I I have

2119
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 9: concerns about him.

2120
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 6: As a pass I have a little of those concerns.

2121
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 6: I don't think Googler this morning, and he maybe have

2122
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 6: even more concerns.

2123
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 9: He's he's reckless as a runner. He thinks that he's

2124
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 9: Josh Allen and he's going to lower his shoulder and

2125
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 9: run people over. But he'll learn, like I have no doubt.

2126
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 6: I think Lamar does the better job of that. And

2127
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 6: Lamar is a lot bigger to me than he is,

2128
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 6: but helps when you can run like the wind. But

2129
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson skips out of bounds a lot now and

2130
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:26,560
Speaker 6: he didn't used to do that.

2131
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 9: So if if Jade Daniels is the guy I like,

2132
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 9: I like to get coached out of them.

2133
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 6: I mean I like May too, But I mean this

2134
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 6: is not an anti Daniels thing.

2135
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 9: No, I like Daniels too.

2136
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: Ryan and Lincoln Nebraska has some criticism. He says, are

2137
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: you all aware that when you go to eat a

2138
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: couple of goobers? Take over your radio waves and talk

2139
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: about things like prime rip being worse than chicken tenders.

2140
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: Thought you should know. I did not know that. I

2141
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: thought we were running. People are actually talking.

2142
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 9: That was that was they did.

2143
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 8: I didn't know that they did a because a halftime

2144
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 8: charge they did do.

2145
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 7: They hijacked the show, like what do they They did

2146
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 7: like a cut bench start kind of thing, and they

2147
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,480
Speaker 7: had like three foods.

2148
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 9: They cut for chicken fingers.

2149
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 4: No, I think I thought. I thought shrimp got cut?

2150
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 9: Who was it? That's fair?

2151
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 11: Who was.

2152
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 4: Chris Chris Casside making his illustrious debut on the halftime?

2153
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 4: I got intern.

2154
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: On a football note, if the unexpected happens when they

2155
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: rolled qbs currently under quarterback or under contract, they should

2156
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: say who best fits what we expect a VP's offense

2157
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: to be, so they stick with what they have. Who's better?

2158
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 9: Please? I don't know to entertain the question.

2159
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 7: I know, well, I mean and probably feeds into this

2160
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,919
Speaker 7: latest mac Jones report of the toxic locker room quarterback

2161
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 7: room that Bailey Zappi.

2162
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 4: Was watching film reportedly watching film with the receivers.

2163
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 6: I don't know, is that that old?

2164
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2165
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 6: I guess the Wickersham thing.

2166
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 4: Essentially something.

2167
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 8: It was essentially Albert mail bag today.

2168
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's from a Wickersham thing.

2169
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 4: Oh it's like one of those Albert Bear things right.

2170
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 6: Well, if in a mail bag. Yeah, he was presenting

2171
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 6: it as his own story that he was distributed off of,

2172
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 6: you know, Patriot's MUTI relations amazing.

2173
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 4: I like this.

2174
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 9: I love it.

2175
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: He's got to be in his bonnet for the Globe.

2176
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Alex from Mount Holly,

2177
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: I just want to say I echo evans concerns as

2178
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,640
Speaker 1: a young fan. But yes, Paul, I still believe in

2179
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Santa Claus. So I think Gerrod Mayo and this new

2180
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: staff will be built the right fifty three man roster

2181
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: with smart, tough football players. That was sarcasm in case

2182
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Fred Butcher's is delivery. More importantly, I was curious if

2183
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 1: that map next to Paul has ever been hung in

2184
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: the wall. I've watched the show for a while now

2185
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: and I feel it has a permanent home on the ground.

2186
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 4: I'm coming up on five years here. I have never

2187
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,560
Speaker 4: seen us put a pin in that thing. No, it

2188
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 4: ended we don't do that anymore.

2189
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 11: Eric.

2190
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 1: It's the opposite because Dean the no we someone would come,

2191
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: someone would call the show from a country, you know,

2192
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: a new country, and then I'd have Paul Eric. I mean,

2193
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: I'd have Eric put the pin in the show with

2194
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Speaker 1: ground to a hat because he didn't know where the

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Speaker 1: country was. And yet he claims to be this you

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Speaker 1: know bon vivant, you know, international traveler, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: know where Romania is.

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Speaker 9: Every time you guys talk about Eric, I'm like that

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Speaker 9: guy sting nod.

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Speaker 6: Somebody had to you guys the map to answer the question.

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Speaker 6: The map was on the wall before you put all

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Speaker 6: the like the soundproofing and stuff. Yeah, studio is going

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01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 6: to get a makeover soon too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working on that finally. As someone who was

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Speaker 1: born and raised in North Carolina, and I think I

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01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 1: think they hate for Drake May comes from a lot

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01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: of people having hatred for UNC and compare him to

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01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 1: the type of guys like Daniel Jones and Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 1: coming out of college when none of the locals felt

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Speaker 1: either of those guys played well in college. I've seen

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01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: this stuff happen several times times, So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's a good player. I think if Drake May is

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Speaker 4: there at three put the card in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what about Daniels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say any of the I'm just

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01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: about there with him.

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Speaker 6: Too, but me too, I think the guy yells at

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Speaker 6: me all the time.

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Speaker 4: I think is Yeah, it's so.

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Speaker 9: If you want the electric playmaker, that's Jayden Daniels. If

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01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 9: you want the more traditional but still has some of

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01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 9: the new stuff of mobility.

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Speaker 6: Homes, it's May Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: That's what they'll no.

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Speaker 9: It really is, I mean, it really is.

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Speaker 6: That's what you have to hope something like that.

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Speaker 7: I just think you're kind of victim to your circumstances

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Speaker 7: of what we kind of experienced the last couple years

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Speaker 7: at the quarterback position here. And there's just, you know,

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Speaker 7: something intriguing about Jayden and Daniels having crazy athleticism. I

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01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 7: don't know how exactly it would translate, but I know

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Speaker 7: that he's always going to be a super athlete, so

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Speaker 7: I'm at least willing to watch how that goes. We

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01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 7: kind of watched the high floor guy for a while.

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Speaker 6: You think he's always going to be that, huh, Well,

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01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 6: I mean until he gets to year ten. And I'm

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Speaker 6: with you, but it's amazing how many emails. We get

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01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 6: now that style doesn't hold up, you know, like they're

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01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 6: waiting for Lamar Jackson to fall apart. Still, yeah, like

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Speaker 6: that like that already his And I just look at

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Speaker 6: the Mahomes. Mahomes won't be able to.

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Speaker 4: Just I just watched Mahomes where like it's not like

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01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 4: Mahomes has to run the ball for their offense to work.

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01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 4: It's just he waits till the right spots and then

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01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: all of a sudden they run.

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Speaker 9: You know him, you know, he just keeps it and

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01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 9: goes and gets what he needs to do.

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Speaker 4: You know what. That's that's what's appealing to me.

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Speaker 7: And I think, you know, with Daniels, it's the potential

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Speaker 7: of like explosive plays off those It's not just Mahomes

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Speaker 7: weaving like he does, you know, to get the first downs.

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Speaker 4: It's like, no, if this guy is able to go,

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01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 4: he might take it to the house.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 9: That's there's something incredibly intriguing about actually playing eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 9: where like the quarterback's legs are something that the opponent

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Speaker 9: has to game plan every single week, like we you're

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01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 9: gonna come into every game and whether it's design, run, scramble, whatever.

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01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 9: Jayden Daniels can take off and run forty yards at

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Speaker 9: any point in time, and that's something that'd be fun.

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Speaker 4: We've never really had that, Michael Bishop.

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Speaker 21: We've never really had because they got by the time.

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Speaker 21: We've never really had that by the time they got Cam. Okay,

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01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 21: we did have it once. No, sorry, put the neck

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Speaker 21: roll on.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen rushing touchdowns one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but like Jaden has a different Oh, of course,

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Speaker 9: this is that we're talking about evolution now.

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Speaker 4: Falling apart on them.

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Speaker 1: Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean, Sean, Hey, Sean.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, everyone, you know, in terms

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Speaker 22: of the complaint, you know, about the lack of details,

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Speaker 22: in terms of what type of offensive philosophy is going on.

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Speaker 22: I'm with Mike in your hopes that, you know, maybe

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01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 22: it's about these players and let's see who they're gonna

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01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 22: they're going to bring in because and then let's set

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01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 22: this pop because I don't want them to be you know, Okay,

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01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 22: we're set in the Cleveland type of offense. We've got

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Speaker 22: to find our inn a joker player. We've got to

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01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 22: find our Nick Harris. You know, we've got to find

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Speaker 22: these specific type of guys, and that's what we're gonna run.

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Speaker 22: I'd rather see. Okay, these are the players who we get.

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01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 22: We don't know who we're gonna get with the third

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Speaker 22: pick is if it's going to be May, then yeah,

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Speaker 22: maybe we can build around that. But if it's Daniels, Okay,

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01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 22: let's let's try and build the system around that. Because

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Speaker 22: he's not going to fit into that Cleveland system that

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Speaker 22: we were running before.

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Speaker 6: So then what are you going to do? Like just

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01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:32,480
Speaker 6: out of curiosity?

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Speaker 9: Is so like why I don't agree with this point?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if if Daniels can't run a system that your

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01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator wants to run, well, then what do you

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01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 6: do with your offensive system?

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01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 22: You're going to alter it and put in the plays

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Speaker 22: that he can run.

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01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 4: You're gonna but what if what if?

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Speaker 6: What if Van Pelt isn't comfortable with that?

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Speaker 22: Well, that's what I'm hoping he is. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 22: he can adapt to.

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Speaker 6: Now, I now I agree with you, Sean, and I'm

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Speaker 6: playing a little devil's advocate, but I think I think

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Speaker 6: Evans point is you you kind of pigeonholed if you

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Speaker 6: do it that way, and just would kind of like

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Speaker 6: to have an idea of the kinds of guys that

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Speaker 6: you're not specific players, but the style of player that

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Speaker 6: you're sort of interested in to see you know, what

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01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 6: would fit best. I don't think that you could just

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Speaker 6: plug any quarterback into any system. But yeah, if you

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Speaker 6: get Jayden Daniels, you're not going to ask him to

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Speaker 6: just play like Tom Brady and stand in the pocket

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01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 6: all day. You have had to sort of do you

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Speaker 6: had to go forbid. I just I look at I

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01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 6: look at it that that was worse than my if

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Speaker 6: you got to the goal line comment.

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Speaker 9: I look at it differently, honestly, because I think that

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Speaker 9: they have they have a blank canvas. They don't have

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Speaker 9: any players that you have. We need to build around

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01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 9: this guy on our team because they don't have any

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01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 9: good enough players. So if you have this blank canvas,

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Speaker 9: I would much rather Alex van pell and Elliott Wolf

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01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 9: and mac Ro to sit down and say, a VP,

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Speaker 9: what how do you want to play? Who are the

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01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 9: types of players that you want? What does an Alex

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Speaker 9: van pel X receiver do? Like, what is his rout tree?

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Speaker 9: What are his sweet spots in the offense? What are

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01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 9: what are you gonna do with this player? And then

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01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 9: have the scouting staff sit there and say, here are

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Speaker 9: the ten guys that we think do it right, and

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Speaker 9: then draft one of those ten guys. If you start

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01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 9: to look, if you think Jayden Daniels is so talented

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01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 9: that you just it won't matter, he'll transcend, then fine.

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01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 9: But if you feel that he's not that good, then

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01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 9: I worry about trying to take a player that isn't

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01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 9: a transcendent talent, and now we're putting him in an

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Speaker 9: offense he doesn't belong in, and we're asking a coordinator

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01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 9: to coach an offense he's not familiar with coaching. I

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Speaker 9: would much rather take Michael Pennix and because we think

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01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 9: he fits what we want to do than to try

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01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 9: to pigeonhole somebody into something that they're not.

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Speaker 6: And for the individual players other than quarterback, it's not

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01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 6: like Amari Cooper or David Najoku have this individual skill

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01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 6: set that's impossible to find right good players now they're

2344
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 6: high caliber players, but you can get guys that can

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01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 6: play the X by get like Evan said, or you know,

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01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 6: work and tight end and be athletic enough to block

2347
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 6: in runn You can find that to fit a system

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01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 6: like you don't have to like be stuck in a

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01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 6: system because you can't get those players that play in

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01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 6: that system. There's a lot of players that play in

2351
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 6: systems like that. Now the quarterback is different, like quarterbacks

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01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 6: have different skill sets.

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Speaker 9: I would just I understand that it sounds great in

2354
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 9: theory that the offensive coordinator would be able to be fluid,

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 9: that he could just check.

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01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 6: But that's not how it is.

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01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 9: It's usually not how it is unless you have a

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Speaker 9: really really good coach.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I got a really good bead right

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01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 4: now on what you would want to hear. Can we

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01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 4: can we roll play this a little bit like.

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01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: Very Actors Workshop, a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Hollywood. I'm sure, man, okay, And and see Evan please.

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01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 9: How did how did the New England Patriots play football

2365
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 9: under Dorod Mail?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Well, I appreciate the question, Evan. You know, obviously,

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01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I'm pretty happy with you know,

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01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 4: what our defense has done over the last couple of years.

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01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 4: But you know, I just I think as the team

2370
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 4: comes together, we just offensively the game has evolved, you know,

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01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 4: we have to find.

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Speaker 1: A way to just be better on more explosive.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that's exactly gonna look like right now, Evan,

2374
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 4: because you know, we're still putting the team together. And

2375
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 4: but my hope is that we can build an offense

2376
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 4: that's gonna take us to the next level. That's what

2377
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 4: needs to be done here. And I'm not sure exactly

2378
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 4: how it's gonna come about, but that's how we're gonna

2379
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 4: put it. And he told you nothing.

2380
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 9: See how that's my point.

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01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to say any that's gonna make you

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01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,759
Speaker 1: feel better. You're a fraud, a fraud.

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm a fraud.

2384
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: All you want is a bottle, have a baby that

2385
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: wants a bottle, a pascifier.

2386
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,759
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about.

2387
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 9: At least he talked about football. At least.

2388
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: Been talking about a power.

2389
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 9: He said that he was gonna get an explosive offense

2390
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 9: that hunts for big player.

2391
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 6: I disagreed that he said nothing. Whatever he said, he

2392
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 6: talked about the need to get more explosive, more modern.

2393
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 9: More explosive.

2394
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 4: These are these are vision No no team wants that.

2395
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Every team wants that we want, we want, we want.

2396
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 6: The previous regime was not.

2397
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 4: Interested in that.

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01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 1: Now, let's go to the actor. What was your goal there?

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01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 4: O My goal was just to you know, limit evans

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01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 4: concerns and just to let him know that we have

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01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 4: a plan and that you know, we understand that offensively

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01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 4: been good enough. I don't ask for much, all right,

2403
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm not asking he told you nothing.

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01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 9: I'm not asking for the you know you to come

2405
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 9: out with the presentation about what exactly you're going to

2406
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 9: do this offseason and who you're gonna draft and who

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01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 9: you're gonna sign.

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01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for mine.

2409
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: I guarantee.

2410
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 9: Don't sound like a CEO from optim sound like a

2411
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 9: head contract guarantee.

2412
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 4: I guarantee.

2413
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee once Gerard does his first you know, real

2414
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: press conference or at least gets to sit with us,

2415
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: he will say that and more.

2416
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 4: I hope, so Ford, please, we gotta get a down

2417
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 4: with him on the board, and then Evan will be like,

2418
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 4: it's all good, that's fun, that's good.

2419
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 8: Was that a little at the beginning, a little y

2420
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 8: homage to Stephanie. It was awesome.

2421
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 9: The next question would be Evan, I don't like silos.

2422
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: Now what's up?

2423
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 11: Brent?

2424
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, come, I'm not sure how to order this is,

2425
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 15: but can you guys run down really quick on the offensive?

2426
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 15: Side of the ball, which of these guys you'd keep

2427
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,640
Speaker 15: and which ones you'd like to see go? And then

2428
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 15: I'd like to see I'd like to see I'd like

2429
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 15: to see Evans mock draft as well, other than Drake

2430
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 15: May and I'll take him off one.

2431
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Thanks.

2432
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 6: Well, they're not going to tell us the guys, the

2433
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 6: guys who are the guys, the whole offense.

2434
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 4: The whole guys like free agents or people that are

2435
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 4: still there. You left us hanging there.

2436
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 6: And Stevenson, I'll pem' k.

2437
01:44:58,840 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 1: David Andrews.

2438
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 6: David Andrews.

2439
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I know you've fallen off the day when you trained,

2440
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: but there was a time where everybody in this room

2441
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: is like, you got to keep big Mic.

2442
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm not on that train.

2443
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 9: No, okay, I'm a big Mic guy still, all right,

2444
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 9: I don't think you absolutely.

2445
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 6: I won't be upset if they keep them, but I'm

2446
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 6: not on the pop Douglas. I'll take Tomorrio, Yeah, okay.

2447
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne born again, I'll come back player of the year.

2448
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 4: Can upgrade upgrade them, upgrading free agency, go get somebody

2449
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 4: better than him.

2450
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 7: Well you can still, I mean, yeah, but you don't

2451
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 7: need a log jam with dudes, you know, like, well,

2452
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 7: I don't.

2453
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 6: Want all those guys back.

2454
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: Well what about just those two pop Douglas and Kentrick Bourne.

2455
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 6: So now what are you doing with Devonte Parker and

2456
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 6: Juju Smith Schuster? Okay, so how are you gonna get

2457
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 6: someone to replace them?

2458
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna draft and you're gonna get through free agency.

2459
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 6: How do you guys feel that a lot of money

2460
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,560
Speaker 6: you're wasting on the cap that you think is irrelevant.

2461
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Well, we're building a new culture here, Paul. We're not

2462
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: going to be exploded.

2463
01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 9: We have money to burn.

2464
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Which is the funny. He said that I would I

2465
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 4: would upgrade that Born spot this year.

2466
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 7: I you know, I'm said a hundred times I'm resigned

2467
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 7: to Parker outside at I mean, assuming that Van Pelt.

2468
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 4: Even plays that way?

2469
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Because do you keep Hunter Henry?

2470
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 4: I do for me. That's he's a priority.

2471
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 6: You're just running back the same offense.

2472
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,960
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I just there's.

2473
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 9: There are some options in free agency end like Dalton Schultz.

2474
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

2475
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 9: I like Gerald Everett.

2476
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 6: I love Gerald Everett.

2477
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 9: He's not he's never really produced down the field. Like

2478
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 9: it's it's all those like scheme touches. Around the line

2479
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 9: of scrimmage. But that's this offense, Like if you're going

2480
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 9: to be running a lot of bootlegs and stuff.

2481
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 5: Like that.

2482
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: Forever, I'd like I take him. Jay'son defense intelligence, Thank

2483
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: you for your service. What are your thoughts on the

2484
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 1: Patriots trading for fields and then picking up needed help

2485
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: throughout the draft and free agency?

2486
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it, but I

2487
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 4: don't really want it, you know.

2488
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 7: I just I'd rather start with someone new and somebody

2489
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 7: who doesn't already kind of have a bad give you know, good,

2490
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 7: I mean some good things, certainly.

2491
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean we saw him here used to maximum the fact.

2492
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you could get Justin Field's twenty twenty

2493
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,839
Speaker 4: two against the Patriots.

2494
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, that poor game, just like remember when he did

2495
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 9: that to us?

2496
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 12: Oh my god?

2497
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 7: Well and it was funny because I mean that game

2498
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 7: sticks out to me so clearly, because I remember talking

2499
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 7: during the week and literally saying, why don't they run him?

2500
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 7: Why don't they use him like the Ravens use Lamar?

2501
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden surprise they did, and

2502
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 7: it was great. And I don't know, you know, what

2503
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 7: what went wrong from there? And why they couldn't stack

2504
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 7: that and build off of that and to build that guy.

2505
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 9: The Bears and Justin Fields are exactly. My concern with

2506
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 9: the Patriots and Jayden Daniels is that if you don't

2507
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 9: know how to use a guy like that, then you're

2508
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 9: you're taking away his superpower.

2509
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Sure, and it wastes right.

2510
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 9: And if you can't play to that strain, then he's

2511
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 9: not good enough at the other things to make up

2512
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 9: for it.

2513
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 4: Do you know, would you know how to use him?

2514
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 5: Of course he does.

2515
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 4: It's just like.

2516
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 6: No, I will say this, Okay, So go back to Baltimore.

2517
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 6: When Lamar got there, it was a great fit, even

2518
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 6: though I don't like this guy as an offensive coordinator,

2519
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 6: to have Greg Roman who had experience doing that with

2520
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 6: San Francisco and Kaepernick, and they brought him in and

2521
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 6: that was perfect for Lamar Jackson. Now I think he

2522
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 6: outgrew Greg Roman because Greg Roman's not really interested in

2523
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 6: trying to throw the ball in any kind of a

2524
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 6: sophisticated manner. They had, by all accounts, some of the

2525
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 6: most simplistic passing concepts that you can't win with in

2526
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 6: the NFL, and that's why they made the change and

2527
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 6: their offense went to a different level, you know this

2528
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 6: year with Monken. So to your point, there are different

2529
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 6: guys that are better suited to use that kind of guy.

2530
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 4: Now.

2531
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 6: I think Fields was a lot better this year in

2532
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 6: the games than he played than he was after that

2533
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 6: Patriots game last year.

2534
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, Calvin says. My fear with picking the

2535
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: quarterback is don't you think all the teams that passed

2536
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,799
Speaker 1: on potential higher ceiling eyes like Lamar or Mahomes believe

2537
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: they didn't want them because their choices were better scheme fits.

2538
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 1: I think the talent upside high ceiling is more important.

2539
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: Take a shot, go for Daniels, and I hope the

2540
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: presence of McAdoo talks an a VP out of best

2541
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: fit over transcending talent or upside.

2542
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 4: Well, I like the theory.

2543
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know necessarily if it's true

2544
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 6: with the individuals that we're talking about, but I do

2545
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 6: like the take a swing if you think a guy

2546
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 6: has a higher ceiling a higher upside.

2547
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 4: I like that theory. I agree to. That's why there's

2548
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 4: not really any of those guys like I feel like

2549
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 4: later in the draft. I think people aremating skilled five guys.

2550
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it.

2551
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 9: Shocks me Paul that Drake May isn't more universally liked

2552
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 9: because he the skills that he has are the modern quarterback.

2553
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 9: He's six ' five with a huge arm, with great

2554
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 9: running skills, with some of that offscript magic like he's

2555
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 9: he's basically Josh Allen.

2556
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 6: I think people are so spooped by Trubisky with him, and.

2557
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 9: People want it, don't see don't see it that way

2558
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 9: they see Daniel Jones or Trubisky or something like that.

2559
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 9: I thought that Jaden Daniels would be the lightning rod

2560
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 9: of this draft. I thought that he was going to

2561
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 9: be the one and everybody was going to say, is

2562
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 9: justin fields you can only run? You know that has

2563
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 9: done not good enough as a passer, And instead it

2564
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 9: really seems like Drake May is the one that's the

2565
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 9: unpopular pick.

2566
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: Uh Trent writes in I don't understand that Justin feels interest.

2567
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: He's always proved, he's already proven, he's not a franchise quarterback.

2568
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: Why not take a shot on a guy who hasn't

2569
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 1: failed in the league yet. Even if you don't love

2570
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback at the third spot, Trade back. Draft a

2571
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in the second or third round with potential and

2572
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: see if you can develop him. And Paul, it's not

2573
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: only that Caleb Williams cried, is that he cried, paints

2574
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: his nails, has a weird relationship with both his parents,

2575
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: and none of his teammates went to his birthday.

2576
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 4: There I love when I love when none of his

2577
01:50:51,360 --> 01:50:54,879
Speaker 4: teammates went to his party. Line comes out for any quarterback.

2578
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 6: Like again, all that stuff is worthy of except for

2579
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 6: the birthday. All that stuff is worthy of being on

2580
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 6: the evaluation. Absolutely. I just want someone to tell me

2581
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 6: why they don't like him as a football player. Tuesdays,

2582
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 6: I am with Dane Brugla. I think he's the best

2583
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 6: football player in the draft.

2584
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 9: Me too.

2585
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: Tuesday, Evan was saying he likes how millennials are the

2586
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: target demo for Super Bowl halftime shows nowadays, because growing

2587
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 1: up he didn't know and had to ask his dad

2588
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: who the performers were. Who didn't you know, Evan? You too,

2589
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,919
Speaker 1: Tom Petty, Paul McCartney, Springsteen. I would say, stick to football,

2590
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: But your football takes are just as bad as your music,

2591
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: Oh Spider, like that see this show? Go shine your

2592
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: shoes your catch twenty two people.

2593
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 6: You know these go home and.

2594
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 9: True statement In two thousand and one, I was actually

2595
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 9: at the Super Bowl Super Bowl thirty six with my

2596
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 9: dad and did ask him who Paul McCartney was. I

2597
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 9: was eight, so you know that I was very up.

2598
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 4: So you know about the Beatles, right, I do?

2599
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Now it's Audrey says, I'm totally with Evan that the

2600
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: corporate speak is so meaningless and certainly doesn't instill any confidence.

2601
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 1: But it's only February, and please, two words I never

2602
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 1: want to hear again. Collaboration and de facto.

2603
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 4: De facto.

2604
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 6: Well, I don't mind a de facto, but the collaboration

2605
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 6: I've had enough of.

2606
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 4: You know what I hate more than collaboration, collab?

2607
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: Collab.

2608
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna collab collab with them. That's another one that's

2609
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 4: not not so much for the football team.

2610
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 6: That's more just likes don't generally work.

2611
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna do a collab with them.

2612
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 9: I don't think this as much of it.

2613
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 1: Let's go to Todd in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

2614
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I was gonna call in and rattle Evan's cage,

2615
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 11: but somebody already did that. I was just thinking that,

2616
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 11: you know, Evan, you're a little spoiled. You've been so

2617
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 11: lucky with the team that you've gotten all the good stuff.

2618
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: You haven't had to live.

2619
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 11: Through some of that older stuff. And trust me, you

2620
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 11: mean when you cheer for the team in the seventies

2621
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 11: and the eighties, there was spots you could cheer, but

2622
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 11: there were times when you're like, oh, dear.

2623
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: Lord, and you just we're going through that now.

2624
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 14: Well that's what we're going to go through.

2625
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,640
Speaker 11: And I think that this is the way teams go.

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01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 11: They cycle, and I you know, I kind of like

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01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 11: the fact that Crap likes whom he's got as a coach,

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01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 11: and I'm kind of hoping that they work together and

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01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 11: they surrounded themselves. And I'm glad that Wolfson and I'm

2630
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 11: glad that there's people there that will give some guidance

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01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 11: and kind of find a direction. I think that's what

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01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 11: we got to wait for. And I know Evans, one

2633
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 11: of these guys has got no patience. He wants to

2634
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 11: see everything now and know what's going on because he's

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01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 11: young and there's nothing.

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01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: Wrong, because he's a generation millennium.

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01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 11: You know, that's what happens.

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01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,640
Speaker 9: They haven't won a playoff game five, how it.

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01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 11: Comes out, and you know, be pleasantly surprised if you

2640
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 11: can be.

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01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 9: I'm not allowed to be to want them to be

2642
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 9: good again, all right now the straight but you're.

2643
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 11: Not allowed to want them to be yeah, amazing in

2644
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 11: their first.

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 6: The problem is we have to do a show every day.

2646
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 6: You know, it's like the Felgrim mass thing, like you

2647
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 6: got to do a show, like we can't wait to

2648
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 6: see what happen happens? What will you need us for?

2649
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 4: Right?

2650
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: Well?

2651
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 6: Like I can just tell you what happened. I don't

2652
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 6: know if you know this, Alex, but the Chiefs won

2653
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl?

2654
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: Did you know that?

2655
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 4: Picked that happened?

2656
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 9: She watched the game?

2657
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 11: Like, Yeah.

2658
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 6: The problem was we had to sort of talk about

2659
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 6: what we think the Patriots are doing, and before we

2660
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 6: do it, we have to talk about it and sort

2661
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 6: of give our thoughts and opinions on what they what

2662
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 6: we think they're doing.

2663
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 4: And overreacting and overreactings and overreacting is a huge part.

2664
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 1: Of that, Johnny and matdtown says Fred, you should do

2665
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: off season picks with other sports or maybe even stupid

2666
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: award shows like the Oscars. Low Steakes just for fun.

2667
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Could be a dumb idea, but I miss hearing. We

2668
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: got a hurry on Thursdays and Alex, you have your

2669
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 1: hair look great, keeping awesome. And I've been to Chapel

2670
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: Hill once. Do I qualify to have an opinion on

2671
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 1: Drake May on this show?

2672
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 6: Yes? So now I'm going to come back in two

2673
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 6: weeks because I am going to spend some time in

2674
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 6: Chapel Hill and I'm just going.

2675
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 9: To They were right, you know you should bust out

2676
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 9: your little pole.

2677
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, leave my little poll alone.

2678
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 4: A little pole down there? What they think are on

2679
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 4: the campus?

2680
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: May?

2681
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, your name portable pole? Did you see Paul's little

2682
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 4: pole when he had a fact?

2683
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 6: Anybody will like it? South Carolina, I'm going there too,

2684
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:18,879
Speaker 6: Ryan Atlanta.

2685
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: We'll end with this email. I don't know why these

2686
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: North Carolina people are so down on Drake May. I

2687
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 1: saw him live versus Georgia Tech, which by my standards

2688
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: makes me an expert in all things Drake May, and

2689
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with him. He was athletic, ran Well,

2690
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: had great accuracy on the field, very active with his

2691
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: teammates on the sideline. In terms of motivating making adjustments

2692
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 1: and talking with coaches. Also in terms of clutch factor,

2693
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: he was leading a game winning drive until Tess Walker

2694
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: fumbled on the Georgia Tech twenty five yard line.

2695
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, he doesn't have it.

2696
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I would be thrilled to get him at number three.

2697
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 9: I've seen it since high school and these stinks.

2698
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 6: Yeah he did. That's Jayden Daniels is coming off a

2699
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 6: great year, whereas Williams and May are coming off Compared

2700
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 6: to the previous year, it was role reversal. It was

2701
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 6: Daniels was okay, then great, and Williams and May were

2702
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 6: great and then okay. So I don't know if you

2703
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 6: think that's a trend. I don't know. What do you think, Freddy,

2704
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 6: I have no idea.

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01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 1: All I know is that that's it for this edition

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01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: of Patriots Unfiltered. Everybody have a good weekend. But before

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Speaker 1: we go, I want to remind everybody that tomorrow the

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 1: first two episodes of Patriots Dynasty drop, and that means

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01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:40,400
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Speaker 1: and so we'll be recapping the first two episodes from

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: our point of view. I thought it was really good.

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01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: We recorded it the other day. I think you'll enjoy it,

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01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: and we'll do that every Friday with the two episodes

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01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,320
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