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Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant and this, friends is stuff you
Speaker 1: should know. It's rain and frogs. Hello, do you Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got a lot of those during the search for this.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, during research for this, you've got it's
Speaker 1: raining men references. Yeah, kept coming up and that predictive
Speaker 1: search and really yeah. And then there's a lot of
Speaker 1: um raining different things. Mouse pads out there available, yeah,
Speaker 1: at e retailers like Etsy and Zazzle and stuff like that. Basically,
Speaker 1: if you type something in Zezel will be like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll put that on a mouse pad for you,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And there's an adorable umbrella out there,
Speaker 1: a see through umbrella with with frogs all over it.
Speaker 1: That's cute. Uh no, they're not and they're actually it
Speaker 1: didn't show up there in this article. There's triplets holding them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three times the adorable So um, Chuck, I ran into
Speaker 1: a lot of um descriptions of crazy stuff happening over
Speaker 1: the course of history here on planet Earth. Um, as
Speaker 1: far back as I could see, there was a guy
Speaker 1: named Athanas He lived in the fourth century BC, and
Speaker 1: he was a traveler and writer. And he mentioned that
Speaker 1: in the area that is now Dinar, Turkey, Uh, it
Speaker 1: frequently rained fish and frogs frequently. And not only did
Speaker 1: it frequently do it. Once it rained frogs for three
Speaker 1: days there. He said, wow, ye, and so much so
Speaker 1: that the villagers had to leave because it was they
Speaker 1: were just inundated with frogs. They poisoned the water. Um,
Speaker 1: whenever they tried to cook. There was like frogs and
Speaker 1: their frogs everywhere, and it was raining frogs. Sounds like
Speaker 1: the ramblings of a fourth century BC Greek madman. Right, sure, okay,
Speaker 1: that we'll say that. But what about Bergen, Norway in
Speaker 1: fifteen seventy eight and fifteen seventy nine, when it rained
Speaker 1: supposedly yellow mice and lemmings. It rained lemmings supposedly, Now
Speaker 1: that's been widely discredited. But what about Memphis, Tennessee January
Speaker 1: eighteen seventy seven It rained live snakes, some as big
Speaker 1: as eighteen inches long. And this one was reported in
Speaker 1: Scientific American. Yeah. Uh, Pliny the Elder, which is the
Speaker 1: name of a beer as well. I found out an
Speaker 1: I p. A even Um first century a d reported
Speaker 1: rains of flesh, blood and wool. Yeah, wool eighteen seventy three.
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri, rain and frogs. Australia rain and fish yeah,
Speaker 1: Acapulco night raining maggots you yeah, uh, tadpoles jellyfish and
Speaker 1: Tasmania jellyfish. Yeah, that's scary, scary. The one of squid
Speaker 1: that's b s. It was some guy who found a
Speaker 1: single squid. Yeah. So while we're talking about all these
Speaker 1: are documented cases of it raining, crazy crazy stuff. It's
Speaker 1: rain blood before supposedly when really it was an algae um.
Speaker 1: But it did in India and Russia, and the people
Speaker 1: in Russia found that they had the biggest crop yield
Speaker 1: ever thanks to the blood rain. No weird. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but all these are documented cases and you can for
Speaker 1: the most part throw a lot of them right out
Speaker 1: the window, like the Lemmings one in Bergen, Norway it
Speaker 1: was just a lie. Other ones um like, uh, there
Speaker 1: was a report of rain, I believe in London, somewhere
Speaker 1: in Great Britain. Um. So it's London or the rest
Speaker 1: of Great Britain like that. Um, that's where some guy,
Speaker 1: some doctor came out into his garden and there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of frogs there, and the day before it had
Speaker 1: been dry and he had a high garden wall, so
Speaker 1: the only way they could have gotten there was rain.
Speaker 1: So it rain frogs in Great Britain that year. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of stories like that. People are just stupid.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that that. A lot of the stories
Speaker 1: were people didn't actually witness it, but they just assume
Speaker 1: there's tadpoles all over my car, so it must have
Speaker 1: rained them exactly. Um, you know, it's not the most
Speaker 1: illogical conclusion. Even one of my personal heroes, Charles Fort,
Speaker 1: through his goofy hat in the Ring forty Times is
Speaker 1: the greatest magazine ever created. Um, Charles Fort said that
Speaker 1: there was something called a super Sargasso Sea that was
Speaker 1: suspended above the earth, and every once in a while
Speaker 1: this it would dump some of its contents in the
Speaker 1: form of rain on the earth, and that's how you
Speaker 1: got raining frogs. Yeah. That was from the Book of
Speaker 1: the Damned. Yeah, and by damned he meant excluded. I
Speaker 1: found out, Yes, I didn't realize that. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: either until today too. Um with a snakes one that
Speaker 1: wasn't scientific American man live snakes foot and a half long.
Speaker 1: I caught a snake the other day in my yarn
Speaker 1: from the sky. No, no, no no, I was just doing
Speaker 1: the weeds and I saw and he was a copper head.
Speaker 1: He was oh wow, it was deadly. But I picked
Speaker 1: him up like Steve Irwin, and Emily was very impressed.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. Then I took him across the street
Speaker 1: and displaced him. Displaced him with extreme prejudice. No, I
Speaker 1: just you know. I did the trick, and I snuck
Speaker 1: it behind him and I grabbed him behind the head
Speaker 1: and took him away. The poisonous snake popped his head
Speaker 1: clean off. He was fine. Field dressed him and ate
Speaker 1: him on the spot. He wasn't that big. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna get some mail for letting a poisonous snake go
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. It was already in the neighborhood. I
Speaker 1: just moved them to a to a empty wooded open
Speaker 1: wooded land. But you didn't exercise extreme prejudice and to
Speaker 1: kill him. That's what a lot of people are going
Speaker 1: to say they're crazy. So anyway, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: crackpots and cooks and dummies out there who say that
Speaker 1: it's rained frogs, it's rained squid. That squid one just
Speaker 1: irks me. Um, it's rained a bunch of crazy stuff
Speaker 1: people not named Pete Anderson. Yes, um, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: I finally saw there will be blood yesterday day before. Yester,
Speaker 1: you've never seen that. What do you think? There was
Speaker 1: a lot? Okay, Um, that is one word of you
Speaker 1: a lot two words. It could be too, It depends. Uh.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is if we're finally going to get
Speaker 1: to the point here, it actually has rained things like
Speaker 1: frogs before that. This really has happened, not just people saying, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of frogs everywhere. They couldn't have possibly
Speaker 1: come from anywhere else but the sky. There have been
Speaker 1: people who have reported frogs specifically falling from the sky
Speaker 1: in the middle of a storm. And it's true. It
Speaker 1: happened is recently two thousand five, Yeah, and was that
Speaker 1: the Serbia where people there was a big old storm
Speaker 1: and people saw and heard frogs raining down from the
Speaker 1: sky hitting their roofs and basically apparently what like you
Speaker 1: were saying P. T. Anderson and magnolia what he depicted.
Speaker 1: It's probably a lot with something like that would look
Speaker 1: like I would imagine. So, uh, there's an explanation for this. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. We're gonna go
Speaker 1: into that. It's not one of the plagues biblical plagues,
Speaker 1: although we'll get into that. Uh. First explained by French
Speaker 1: physicist Andre Marie Empire in the early nineteenth century. He said,
Speaker 1: you know what this is. This is water spout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a tornado that forms and then goes over the
Speaker 1: water becomes part of you know, partially water. It picks
Speaker 1: up these little light things from as deep as what
Speaker 1: like three ft for a big one, and uh picks
Speaker 1: these things up because they're obviously lighter than you know.
Speaker 1: It might not be picking up like a great white shark,
Speaker 1: but it'll pick up a little fish or a little
Speaker 1: frog or a tad bowl and then as it dies out,
Speaker 1: it spits them back out when it gets over land
Speaker 1: because it decreases in pressure. Yes for filler. Since you
Speaker 1: just explain the whole podcast, let's just talk about how
Speaker 1: water spout forms. Okay, so you've got two kinds of
Speaker 1: water spouts. You've got tornadic which is just like a tornado,
Speaker 1: and it starts with a vertical clockwise turning column of
Speaker 1: air that eventually goes down, so it's cloud to surface, right.
Speaker 1: Those are really scary ones and they're associated with storms.
Speaker 1: There's another kind called a fair weather water spout, which
Speaker 1: can whip up on a sunny day and they go
Speaker 1: from surface to sky. But in both cases, a water
Speaker 1: spout is an example of warm air forming a low
Speaker 1: pressure area which is formed by low rising air and
Speaker 1: as it goes up, remember, cold air comes in to
Speaker 1: fill the void. And those two things interplaying the low
Speaker 1: pressure warm air rising and the cold air um dropping
Speaker 1: high pressure dropping form of vortex which creates section in
Speaker 1: the middle and the low pressure area the difference in pressure,
Speaker 1: and that's how you can suck something up up to
Speaker 1: three ft beneath the surface, or if you're a tornado,
Speaker 1: you might suck up a dog or cow or a
Speaker 1: cow or a car. And we didn't do how tornadoes worked.
Speaker 1: We just did what it like in the eye of
Speaker 1: a tornado, which is pretty awesome. It was good. So
Speaker 1: are we done? I don't think so. Um. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just a few dozen frogs. Sometimes it's hundreds, sometimes it's thousands.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's pieces of animal. Sometimes they're frozen solid yeah,
Speaker 1: and hail. Um. And all that is the water spout
Speaker 1: got high enough into the atmosphere there it reached an
Speaker 1: area that was beneath zero. Sometimes it's not just animals.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's tomatoes or coal or coal. There's a guy
Speaker 1: in Manassas, Virginia who got a frozen ten thousand Deutsche
Speaker 1: mark note. Really yeah, wow, yeah frozen? Was this after
Speaker 1: they converted to the euro? I don't know you can
Speaker 1: still trade those in it? I'm sure are they completely
Speaker 1: out of circulation? I wonder I hope not for this
Speaker 1: guy's sake. Um, So frozen is one way that they
Speaker 1: come down, which would be kind of really interesting if
Speaker 1: a frozen frog landed on your car, right, shredded like
Speaker 1: you were saying, because of the the violent wind speeds,
Speaker 1: right yeah. Um. One thing that always kind of sticks
Speaker 1: out to me, and I'm sure the answer is is
Speaker 1: because it's just not the case. But why is it
Speaker 1: that it's always just one specie. I know you're going
Speaker 1: to say that an answer, Well, I don't have an answer, um,
Speaker 1: because I wondered the same thing. Uh. There is a
Speaker 1: professor at UM Washington University that says, um, you know,
Speaker 1: it just makes sense because they're similar size and weight,
Speaker 1: they might be all hanging out together at the one
Speaker 1: point where this thing goes down. That still didn't explain
Speaker 1: it to me though. I mean, the water spout goes
Speaker 1: down over water, it's gonna be spitting out fish and
Speaker 1: frogs and whatever else. And it's always almost always reported
Speaker 1: to be one one thing. It's like it's raining frogs
Speaker 1: or it's raining fish, and fish supposedly are the most common. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: old rains fish in Australia like every day. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: like they're like yeah, of course, Um, but yeah, why
Speaker 1: why they're not mixed together, or why they're not reported
Speaker 1: to be mixed together is the weirdest thing that is weird. Um.
Speaker 1: There's another professor from Southern Illinois that theorizes that it's
Speaker 1: not just water spouts. He said, it can be any
Speaker 1: kind of unusual updraft. Um, anything like at a speed
Speaker 1: of sixty miles an hour plus can pick up light
Speaker 1: objects and deposit them elsewhere, So not necessarily just a
Speaker 1: water spout, although it has been observed by like you
Speaker 1: know bona fide people. Okay, like this one professor in Louisiana,
Speaker 1: he worked with the Department of Wildlife. He was eating
Speaker 1: breakfast in he saw like an average of one fish
Speaker 1: per square yard raining down. So that's that's a significant
Speaker 1: amount of fish depending on the side of the fish.
Speaker 1: Like people say fish, Are they talking about guppies? Are
Speaker 1: they talking about crap? Are they talking about do you
Speaker 1: say crap? Is it crappy? Crappy? Are they talking about
Speaker 1: you know, swordfish? Those are really dangerous when they raigne.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I mean I think they're light because that's
Speaker 1: the whole point. Even an updraft from a water spolled
Speaker 1: to two isn't going to be picking up you know,
Speaker 1: great white sharks. Right, that's that's a movie for you,
Speaker 1: raining sharks. What about Piranha Parana two? They flew and
Speaker 1: made it on the land, right, the original parity so
Speaker 1: not the new Paranha three double D. Is that what
Speaker 1: it's called? Jez? I know? So I guess um Acam's razor,
Speaker 1: uh teaches us. In this case, the simplest explanation is that, um,
Speaker 1: this is Satan's work, Okay, Um, what a water spout
Speaker 1: forming supposedly and just picking up things then dropping them
Speaker 1: over land. Okay, right, um, and raining frogs is explaining it,
Speaker 1: I guess is part of this larger trend that's gripped
Speaker 1: the scientific community lately. Um, which is explaining biblical phenomenon phenomena. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought this was pretty interesting. You dug up this
Speaker 1: article on the biblical plagues. Yeah, the ten plagues of Egypt,
Speaker 1: one of which was frogs. Yes, but it didn't rain frogs.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think that it's supposedly rain frogs. Now,
Speaker 1: what supposedly happened was apparently it's like where you know
Speaker 1: dinar and Turkey is now, they were just overrun by frogs. Um.
Speaker 1: And I guess I can imagine. There was another horror
Speaker 1: movie from the eighties about that. It was just about
Speaker 1: giant frogs and lots of them, right. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like the birds, but with frogs. And a frog can
Speaker 1: be kind of unsettling when it's staring at you, especially
Speaker 1: if it's surrounded by thousands of its companions judge you yeah, um,
Speaker 1: And they'll kind of get all over everything, and they'll
Speaker 1: get underfoot and you'll step on them, and things get
Speaker 1: slippery and mucky real quick, and that was one of
Speaker 1: the plagues of Egypt. It wasn't the first one though, No,
Speaker 1: So should we explain this away? Yeah, again, it's in
Speaker 1: vogue right now to explain away the plagues. And the
Speaker 1: cool thing is that these um, these researchers figured out
Speaker 1: or they suggest that all of these things were linked.
Speaker 1: It was a series of events of amazing events that
Speaker 1: um became what we know as the Ten Plagues of
Speaker 1: Egypt that eventually caused Pharaoh to say, hey, Moses, you
Speaker 1: guys can go back your stuff and leave. Yeah. Uh, yes,
Speaker 1: you dug this up from the Telegraph, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite publications. And Richard Gray, the correspondent the Telegraph. You
Speaker 1: can tell these the science correspondent, look at that hairline.
Speaker 1: So they have some evidence that what kicked this whole
Speaker 1: thing off was a climate change, a climate event that
Speaker 1: happened way back in the day. Um. There was a
Speaker 1: city called um pie Rameses on the Nile Delta. It
Speaker 1: was abandoned about three thousand years ago, which they think
Speaker 1: this explanation works in concert with that abandonment of the city.
Speaker 1: And they said that there was a dramatic shifting climate
Speaker 1: towards the end of the second rain of Rameses, Rameses, Rameses,
Speaker 1: and uh, we had a goat name ramesay. Uh, you
Speaker 1: can't just say that things like that, sure I can. Um.
Speaker 1: So they found that the end of the rain um
Speaker 1: coincided with a warm, wet climate and then switched over
Speaker 1: to a really dry period, and that was not good
Speaker 1: news for the nile. It kicked off the first plague,
Speaker 1: which was the nile turning to blood. So how did
Speaker 1: that happen? Well, the nile supposedly dried up um and
Speaker 1: became kind of this muddy, mucky, slow moving mess, no
Speaker 1: longer vital and prime for this type of algae that
Speaker 1: we know was around back then. It's still around today
Speaker 1: called uh burgundy blood algae, and basically it sucks the
Speaker 1: life out of a mucky area, which would have caused
Speaker 1: the second plague frogs. Right, Well, then, what did you
Speaker 1: say the name of the first plague? The river turns
Speaker 1: to blood, and so frogs suddenly infesting where the people
Speaker 1: were living because there's no place to be in the river, right,
Speaker 1: It's suddenly turned lifeless. Right, and so now the frogs
Speaker 1: are everywhere, um, which would have they're everywhere but the river,
Speaker 1: which would have led to the third, fourth, and fifth plagues, right,
Speaker 1: third and fourth, third, and fourth, which were flies and lice.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the frogs are around to eat
Speaker 1: these things, so you're gonna have a lot more lice
Speaker 1: and flies. Yeah, okay, so far, so good. Now what
Speaker 1: well after that, all everybody's itching and like swatting and
Speaker 1: like trying not to slip on all the dead frogs
Speaker 1: that they've stepped on. Um, the following plagues were disease,
Speaker 1: livestock and boils, which you're gonna have if you've got
Speaker 1: lots of flies and lies and mosquitoes spreading disease, spreading disease. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's that's okay, that's I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But that's not like the oh yeah, of course. Um.
Speaker 1: After that we have the seventh, eighth, and ninth plagues hail, locusts,
Speaker 1: and darkness, which they think was coincidentally caused by the
Speaker 1: eruption of a volcano at Theara on the islands of Santorini,
Speaker 1: which happened thirty years ago and which they found evidence
Speaker 1: of in Egypt. Excavating some uh some locations in ancient Egypt,
Speaker 1: they found pumics volcanic stone from the Thera volcano. Like,
Speaker 1: there are no volcanoes in Egypt. Yeah, how could there
Speaker 1: be pumas exactly? Well, they looked and they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's from Santorini. Wow, it's kind of big. Um. So
Speaker 1: you have the um, this volcanic eruption, huge, huge volcanic eruption. UM.
Speaker 1: The ash mixing with the clouds over Egypt would have
Speaker 1: caused hail worth writing down in the Bible. UM. And
Speaker 1: then it would have also um created locusts because it
Speaker 1: would have raised the humidity and the temperature right right,
Speaker 1: which locusts love. I thought that was a little tenuous,
Speaker 1: but it's still made sense. But then the darkness volcanic
Speaker 1: ash blotting out the sun, which we've heard could happen.
Speaker 1: Ever heard of a nuclear winner. That's right, same thing.
Speaker 1: And so there you have it. All the plagues explained,
Speaker 1: sort of except for the last one. John, This one
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be connected to anything. It was kind
Speaker 1: of free standing if you ask me. But the tenth
Speaker 1: plague was the death of the first borns Um. The
Speaker 1: firstborn sons, I should say um in Egypt were suddenly
Speaker 1: dying mysteriously as a plague, and I think that possibly
Speaker 1: there was some sort of grain fungus that killed the
Speaker 1: firstborns who would have had first DIBs on food, so
Speaker 1: they would have been the first to die. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a little hanky. A couple of these were
Speaker 1: little hanky, but I thought it was interesting to read,
Speaker 1: for sure. But I mean, yeah, they weren't going to
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we're gonna get front page exposure in
Speaker 1: the Telegraph by saying we've explained eight of the ten
Speaker 1: plagues of Egypt. You have to go for ten, and
Speaker 1: you got to fudge apparently if you are a researcher
Speaker 1: looking to get media coverage. So we don't know if
Speaker 1: they budged. Still that was that was not the greatest link. Well,
Speaker 1: that's it. That was a we weird, weird episode all
Speaker 1: over the place. We talked about raining frog that was
Speaker 1: based on an article on the website. Can it really
Speaker 1: rain frogs? It can? But I have to say that
Speaker 1: just a little bit of skeptic in me says I
Speaker 1: would have to see that one to believe in me too.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'll just watch Magnolia very frequently. If
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