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Speaker 1: we continue now a part two of our conversation with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went. So I finished high school, went

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Speaker 1: Tell us about your time in England briefly.

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Speaker 2: So you know, there was a students from Dirham University

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Speaker 2: I have no time for these teenagers.

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Speaker 1: So we need to also say real quick to set

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Speaker 1: this up. I started tearing up when you started tearing up,

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Speaker 1: and I missed, so I screwed up the whole interview.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, all right. He also said there were

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Speaker 1: two things. One you had to go to church and

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Speaker 2: And the funny part of the church is I got.

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Speaker 3: Be Baptist church, so is what I got it Baptist Church.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to say it. I've got a

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Speaker 2: So my job was to reshare the gospel, you know,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so that the Uh, there were students who

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Speaker 3: So it's like can you hang up with them? I

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Speaker 2: when they went back, they're like, we met this guy

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, So while I was mad, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Well, the missions that came to you Ganda where all

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Speaker 2: To fix that? You know, I think for me is

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Speaker 2: You know, for me, it's changing the naalative or the

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So as I'm reading all about

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the same trauma I had to go through

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Speaker 3: Hey, Peter, you got to tell the story about the

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Speaker 2: Yes, So you know, first of all, they brought the kids,

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Speaker 1: So Cain turned into how.

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Speaker 2: Many forty seven?

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Speaker 1: And you are now the father to how many three?

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Speaker 2: And I'm in a prose of adopting the other two.

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Speaker 3: Rolling m rolling does the world?

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Speaker 2: Is the word?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes like short places and the ladies are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely hilarious. We'll be right back. Tell me

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Speaker 2: of them.

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00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: And the other part that I really so my first child.

442
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: Again, it's amazing when you have you want one kid

443
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: and then get to really teach you everything about what

444
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: your journey's about to be. So he gets sick at night,

445
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: so I'm like, social workers don't pick up phones at three,

446
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: you know, no, So I'm like, you know, who do

447
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: I call?

448
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: So I called the mom. I said, hey, your little

449
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: one is wheezing.

450
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: What should I do? And so she said do this,

451
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: do this? So I followed and after that, you know,

452
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: the kid was okay and went to bed. And the

453
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: next morning I got a phone call from the mom.

454
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: She said, Peter, thank you for allowing me to be

455
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: a mom for five minutes. You know, oh you don't

456
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: remember for me coming in. I was seeing them as

457
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: my father, like you horrible parents. You you you you,

458
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: And I remember that one time someone was saying what

459
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: a mother will let their kids be on the streets

460
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: of Campala, and I could remember like, my mom loved

461
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: me so much, but she could run away and I

462
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: couldn't protect her in some way. And in those moments

463
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: when she said that, I was like, you know what,

464
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: now it all makes sense why I am a false parent.

465
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 2: I'm a foster parent to the entire family, and I

466
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: go to owner the mom and the dad and make

467
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: sure they have their kids back, you know. And that

468
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: really helped me to know what's all about forced care

469
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: and what my job in that path was. So I

470
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: decided to say, I will make sure that I come

471
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: alongside and be a resource to their bio parents and

472
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: do the best I can. If that is not I

473
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: want to be their final family. I want to be

474
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 2: the final dad they can have. And that truly has

475
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: been really joy.

476
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: You know.

477
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: Again, That's what forty seven because I and all of them,

478
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm still in touch with each one of them because

479
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: I valued their parents and I did everything I could

480
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: in my powers to give their kids back. You know,

481
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: for me as a male, it's easy to look at

482
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: Mail and I say, it's easy.

483
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: He's what I find.

484
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: I find it's easy for us as male to cast

485
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: the stones to the moms, you know, but we never

486
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: understood what his moms have to go through in so

487
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: many ways that for me, understanding that really helped me

488
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: to say, how can I be a resource? How can

489
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: I be that person who believes in them, that can

490
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: say I know you struggle, but I'm here that you

491
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: wake up one day and you have your kids back.

492
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: And one other course, there's.

493
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: A couple of things I got to get to before

494
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: I open it up to questions, And one is, and

495
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a story of who became your first

496
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: adopted son.

497
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: Yes, is.

498
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: You really didn't want to know what Dagnham think about him,

499
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: did you?

500
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

501
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: No, I know.

502
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: Tell us So as foster parents, we say goodbye to

503
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: our kids, and most people don't want to force it because.

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't know how I can say goodbye?

505
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: And usually I say, I actually think.

506
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: Most people don't want to foster because they don't want

507
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: to welcome into their homes the trauma and tornado that

508
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: is ultimately a really broken kid, absolutely, and then the

509
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: people that are able to get over that, then they're like, well,

510
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: I develop a relationship with this kid and I start

511
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: caring about them, but my job is to return them

512
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: to their parents, and I don't want to go through that.

513
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: On trauma and my own heart. I think those are

514
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: the two big things, and so you start to get

515
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: guarded against it, and you're like, I don't want to

516
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: know anything about this kid, but I'll take them in

517
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: for a little while.

518
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: Well, I had the two had gone home on Monday,

519
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: so I told my so and say, hey, this is

520
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: really hard. So I need six month breaks, you know.

521
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: So that's what we agreed on, six months, so I

522
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: can now have a little, you know, a.

523
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: Little downtime on Monday.

524
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: She calls me on Friday, she's like, hey, there's a

525
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 2: kid six months there's the key that needs a home.

526
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: I said, hold or old up? Six months, says Peter.

527
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: I promise you, this is just for the weekend. I promised.

528
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: That's what they always said, the people that heard giggling.

529
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: I said no.

530
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: I said no, and then she said he's at the hospital.

531
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: So then I'm like, oh, dang it. Now I can't

532
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: say no.

533
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: You know.

534
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: So I said, yeah, he can come, but I don't

535
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: need to know. I don't want to know anything about him.

536
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: All I need to know is what I need to

537
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: keep my knives, what do I need my water? Like,

538
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: what do I need to keep? Because it was eleven,

539
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, because the kids had left. I just wasn't

540
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: in me. There wasn't something for me to give back

541
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 2: to this kid, you know. So he comes in at

542
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: three in the morning. All my kids by the way,

543
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: coming between three in the morning and four. I don't

544
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: know what, you know, you know what. So he walks

545
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: in and the sushwalker left. So I said, hey, call

546
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: me mister Peter. My last name is long. And he

547
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 2: looks at me and said, hey, but can I call

548
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: him my dad? This is what I said.

549
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 3: I said, hell no, no, no.

550
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.

551
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: No, no no no. He was my number.

552
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: He was my number eleven I had had. I said no, no.

553
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: And many And then he looks at me and say,

554
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: but I was told since I'm eleven, I can choose

555
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: whom my father should be.

556
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: You should be my dad. I said, dude, knock it off.

557
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: First hour, no.

558
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: Twenty minutes, twenty no, no, no, twenty minutes. I said, dude, stop,

559
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: I said, knock it off. You're living on Monday. And

560
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: I had and I had won the social work. I said,

561
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 2: if you don't pick up, if you don't pick him

562
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: up in a Monday, he'll be outside on the porch waiting.

563
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: For That was my warning.

564
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: So I said please, so on my Monday, finally they

565
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: come to pick him up. Now that I signed papers,

566
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: I was like, so, by the way, why was he

567
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: left in the hospital, you know? And the social worker

568
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: told me, well, he came in to fosk get one

569
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: and a half and then he was adapted by the

570
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: family that took him in at four and the same

571
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: family had dropped him at the hospital, never say goodbye

572
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: and never give him the reason why they did not

573
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: want him anymore. And in those moments, I think I

574
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: went back to my ten year old on the bus

575
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: and I said no, no, but also to sometimes we

576
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: ask God to give us something, you know, you pray

577
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: and ask God to give you something, and then when

578
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: it gives you, like not today it was.

579
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: I want that, but just know today, you know.

580
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: And I think for me as a parent, I've always

581
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: wanted to be a dad and he's a kid screaming,

582
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: can I be your dad?

583
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

584
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: You know, so finally, you know, I knew, I knew

585
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: he called me dad, I knew his dad, and I said,

586
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: just give me those paperwork. I was send him to

587
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: school tomorrow. And that's my first adopted son, Anthony to us.

588
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: He's now nineteen years old going to college.

589
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: Yes, unbelievable. Yes, yeah, I thought a couple couple things

590
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: before we turn it over to the audience. In your

591
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: book book by the way, I guess I need to

592
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: plug the book. I did plug the book, but I'll

593
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: plug it again. Everybody. If you like what you've heard

594
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: so far, you're an absolute goofball. Not to buy love

595
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: does not conquer all, and other surprising lessons I learned

596
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: as a father died to more than forty kids. Remember

597
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: he also has a life. He flips and rehabs houses

598
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: while taking care of all these children and adopting others.

599
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Chapter seven. We don't always like our kids.

600
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I got.

601
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Four children that are as you would call them bios

602
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: Peter's language for a child that you actually birth that

603
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: has your DNA as a bio. Right, well, I got

604
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: four bios and they're biodegrading have to die, and I

605
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: don't like them at all. Sometimes, yes, but I always

606
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: love them. Yes seven tell us tell us what you

607
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: mean by we won't always like her kids absolute.

608
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: I think sometimes as parents we come in with these

609
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: kumbai roses and whatever you call them. You know, in

610
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: fourth case the opposite. You know that there's sometimes when

611
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: they do things or their trauma shows up and I

612
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: don't like it. And that's the genuine valid way of

613
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: saying I'm human, like I don't like it when you're

614
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: putting holes in my in my home, in my wall,

615
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: and there's like number twenty of holes you put in.

616
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: You know that for me to say it's okay. I

617
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: think sometimes we are afraid to say I don't like it.

618
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: You know that people will think we are bad parents.

619
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm like, yeah, some days I just say, son,

620
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: if I had a way, I could drive and I'll

621
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: come back, I would do it. But I can't. You

622
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: know that we don't always have to love our children,

623
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: but we can always be there and protect them and

624
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: fight for them, even in the times when they they're

625
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: not pleasant to be around.

626
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: I laughed out loud when I read this, listen to

627
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: this their body. Over forty foster children and three adoptions later,

628
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: I find myself surprised on a daily basis. I never

629
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: expect to have a child paint the bathroom with poop,

630
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: or destroy a school classroom, or to find eight nine

631
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: year olds making out like they saw people doing homes

632
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: from which they were moved. Nor did I expect to

633
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: find my next door neighbor's video game console in my

634
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: living room. Yet I've discovered the surprises of parenting are

635
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: also opportunities to grow as a human being and as

636
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a dad.

637
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Talk about it, you know, there's a sense sometimes for

638
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: us friends who we think we are doing a favor

639
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: for someone you know. But I think for me, I

640
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: want it to look into what like as much as

641
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: I love them and as much as I want to

642
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: be there for them, that they have taught me so

643
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: much as well that there are some plays says they've

644
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: helped me grow and be a better human being in

645
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: a way. So it's both. It's as you get to

646
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: shaper and be there as their parents that they get

647
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: to do the same.

648
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: More.

649
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: I understand patients like I thought I knew patients You know,

650
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: I thought I knew grace. I was like, man, this

651
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: Christian thing, I'm far from it, you know. But they've

652
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: taught me in a better way that I'm a better

653
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: human being because we both benefiting from each other.

654
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: Now it's not just one way.

655
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: It's not just me being there for them, that there

656
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: are also a source of resilience.

657
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: May we can get as much out of it as

658
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: we more?

659
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely I think I get maybe more, Yes, I think

660
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: I get more.

661
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: Took you seventeen years to become an American citizen, yes,

662
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: but you are now?

663
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

664
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Why seventeen years?

665
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: You know the only system I have.

666
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: You know that I did all they asked me, follow

667
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: the rules, you know, whatever, you know, student from student

668
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: to work, work for work, green cards, green card, you know,

669
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: and funny an American, you know, because I wanted to

670
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 2: fight for the kids. But also I feel like FOSTHK

671
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: is my calling, like truly truly believe every That's what

672
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: I breathe, that's what I talk about.

673
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: That's my life, you know.

674
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: Falth care that truly, truly is a place for us

675
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: to make a difference. You know, I tell people you

676
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: know who are fighting, you know, six traffic I'm like,

677
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: that's so cool, But you're coming in tu late in

678
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: some way. You know that sometimes I wish you came

679
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier when they are thirteen and come alongside.

680
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: You know that, yes, we get to hold people homeless,

681
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: help people on homeless, but sometimes I wish we could

682
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: have come a little earlier when they are fourteen. You

683
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: know that I feel, as a male who lived that life,

684
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: that truly I can be a voice to sometimes in

685
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: a place where there's less men as well, to really

686
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: show that men we have the same resuppose, but as

687
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: moms do, to be there, to be tender, and to

688
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: be on our knees, to truly take care of the

689
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: list of this.

690
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Alex. The producer drives me absolutely nuts,

691
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: and any regularistor will know that I often just tell

692
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: him to be quiet and sit in a corner, like

693
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz does behind that carden, you know,

694
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: because the producers are paint in the body. But he

695
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: does have lots of value, both personally and professionally. This

696
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: is something he has said to me over and over

697
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: and over again, and for everybody listening out there, and

698
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: those of us who joined us here they're over four

699
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: hundred thousand kids and foster care in the United States.

700
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: There's one hundred and fifteen thousand of them whose parental

701
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: rights have been terminated and could be adopted today. Meanwhile,

702
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: there's four hundred thousand houses of worship in our country.

703
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Between churches and synagogues and mosques, there's four hundred thousand

704
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: houses of worship in the country. So if just one

705
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: person out of one of every three houses of worships

706
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: served like Peter did, there would be no orphans in

707
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: our country. And when you have a streat kid that

708
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: grew up in Uganda, who couldn't even dream of anything

709
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: other than one mill a day, who it took nineteen

710
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: years to become a citizen of our country, having served

711
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: forty seven foster children, adopted three and it's in the

712
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: process of adopting three more. What does it say about

713
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: our apathy towards the most needia among us. If we're

714
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: really going to be an army and normal folks, guys,

715
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: there's got to be a calling. There's got to be

716
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: people listening to me right now who have a passion

717
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: for children. And one of these big old houses that

718
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: you talk about, Peter one of three, one of three

719
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: of all these houses of worship, and Peter so rightly cited.

720
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Too much has been given, much is required. So it's

721
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: really not a nice thing to do to step up

722
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: and do this work. It's responsibility.

723
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: It is a scietal responsible And there's.

724
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: Two million people waiting for adoption, and we are trying

725
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: to say why, wait, you know, maybe change your perimeters

726
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: instead of wanting a toddler, maybe a seven year old,

727
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: maybe a nine year old, maybe a teenager. They are

728
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: my favorite human being. Why because they can dress themselves,

729
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: they can tell me their feelings, and they're just fun

730
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: to be around.

731
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to end with asking you to tell me

732
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: a story, and I'm going to open up for questions

733
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: for the last few minutes we have together. Yes, Joseph

734
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: and the Answer. Can you tell me the story of

735
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Joseph and the Answer and what we can learn from it?

736
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 5: Joseph Andy, Yeah, the story about.

737
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: There's an an invasion in your home?

738
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Peter, Oh, yes, yes, there you go. You know, Yes,

739
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: holding is part of our kids.

740
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Come, it's not a disease, it's not a it's not

741
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: a bad thing. When you know, just was me when

742
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: we would steal food and hide it, you know, and

743
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: sometimes we will lose it because we're hiding it, because

744
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: you know, you can't eat all the food you're hiding

745
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 2: to our kids. Yes, the idea that food, it won't

746
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: be there today in the United States, it is there

747
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: that some kids go to bed hungry and they try

748
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: to make sure that they can provide for themselves. And

749
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: that is holding. So my kids will take the food

750
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: and hide it. And I knew, so I knew how

751
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: I can help them. So one time he took the food,

752
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: you know, so I said, hey, this make a deal.

753
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: You know.

754
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: No, so there was food there, so I said, hey,

755
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: why is the food there?

756
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: And he looked in my eyes and said, well, it

757
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: walked here. I was like okay, So I said, okay, cool.

758
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Can we make a deal next time you see it walking,

759
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: can you say, Dad, it is walking in my room

760
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 2: and I will come running and I'll make sure I

761
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: make it. Go back says sure, you know, and we

762
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: would do it over and over. I found, in a way,

763
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: by believing his white lie, he really learned to trust that, hey,

764
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: you know what, it would be food for me. So

765
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: then we began to put food nearby way he can

766
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: help food that won't bring ants in a home, you know.

767
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: And also we also so for me on a pint

768
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: of milk in my in my fridge, I put everyone's name,

769
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: you know why because when they see their name one,

770
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: they know this portion of the milk that is mine,

771
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: so they're not worried that milk is going to go

772
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: the next day, you know. And that truly helped me

773
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: to know how I can be there for my kids.

774
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: Not yes, ants, I don't care, but in a way,

775
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: if I can help my kid know like it's okay,

776
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: there is food tomorrow. And if I can do that

777
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: to every child at wom's mind. For me, I had

778
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: to do it in Africa. There was no food to

779
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: me in a country where we throw food every day

780
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: that should not be for the kids who need a meal.

781
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: The point of that whole story is there really is

782
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: no rule book. No, these kids don't show up with

783
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: instruction manuals. I owe kids don't show up with instruction manuals.

784
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: And a little while a little patient's a little understanding,

785
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: a little creative creativity, and an understanding that every kid

786
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: ticks different and there's not one size one rule fits all.

787
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: But if you're willing to be patient, creative, you can

788
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: address it all and you have done so. Wow, Peter,

789
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: what a story, What a legacy you're leaving. What an

790
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: inspiration you are. Your book is chocked full of stuff

791
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: that people have got to read. I could do this

792
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: with you two hours, but Peter, I'm told by my

793
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: producer Alex the Pain of the Butt that we don't

794
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: have that much time. So that's Peter. Would anybody here

795
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: like to there he is? You might as well ask

796
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: him if you have any questions. Yes, yeah, it's coming.

797
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: He likes to play like old Phil Donaho. If you remember,

798
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: he likes run around with a microphone.

799
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 6: Thanks Peter for your story, Thanks for coming all this

800
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 6: way to Memphis. The one question I want to ask you,

801
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: did you ever go back to u Ganda to see

802
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 6: your mother and your relatives after kind of college or

803
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 6: even being here in the United States for a while.

804
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: Yes, so at nineteen So I went back to at

805
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen nineteen for the sake of my mother. You know,

806
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: I loved my mom and I wanted to have the pride,

807
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: the pride of her walking the vida and saying.

808
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: My son made it.

809
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: But it was also another way of giving my father

810
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: a middle finger, like hey, you wish the best wish

811
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: for me? He's I'm gonna I'm making it like I

812
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: and for us as Africans, like I think we have

813
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: to face on our challenge because there's no way out,

814
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: you know. So by going back, I wanted to say,

815
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: you know, you wish the worst for me, but hey,

816
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: I forgive you. And I hated him so much, like

817
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: I if it was someone who wanted to hamm was

818
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: my father, you know. And I realized too, like wait

819
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: a minute, he's still ruining me even him not being there.

820
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: So by me facing him and saying, you know, I

821
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: out let you go, was away that I did not

822
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: want my childhood affect.

823
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: What my future was going to be. So I said no, Yeah, so.

824
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: I went by, but I have a good rest ship

825
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: with my mom and him, you know, And I went.

826
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: I went back not to seek for a father, but

827
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: to forgive a mind that didn't care.

828
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: She said she had the same question. Oh, exactly, same question.

829
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: Anyone else have a question?

830
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: Hello? Thank you hear me, Yes, thank you so much.

831
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: For that's that's not for here, that's for the cameras.

832
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: Oh thank you so much for being here with us

833
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: and for sharing as I shared it with you earlier.

834
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 4: I follow you so I love the opportunities to see

835
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: you and your children. I love the one where your

836
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: oldest son went back to Uganda with you and you

837
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: introduced him to all of your family and you showed

838
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: him your culture. I love that. Thank you so much.

839
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's we get to see this, you know,

840
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 4: we get to see the American side if you would.

841
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 4: But for you to tell the children that you adopted

842
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: and to take them to Uganda to share that side,

843
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: and for your family there and friends there to be

844
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: able to meet them, that was rich. So I just

845
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 4: want to say thank you for that.

846
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, my kids sometimes they will tell their

847
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: their school at school they're like, yeah, you know, I'm African.

848
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: They're like wait, what how what do you mean?

849
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: You know, But because they are proud of their father

850
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: in a way that when people meet me they're like, oh,

851
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: now that makes sense, you know. And also it's really

852
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: unique that my kids have never said, oh, I have

853
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: a black dad.

854
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: They're like, I have a dad. And it's usually when.

855
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: People meet us, they're like, how come you didn't say

856
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: it was black and you know, like, no.

857
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: He's my father, Peter, that's all.

858
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: And that's say you have white children, no, well sometimes

859
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 5: you know, don't put my child in the sun.

860
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Just make sure they.

861
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: Okay the police. You don't think of them as white

862
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: children and black.

863
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're my children.

864
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: But also I have to I have to know that

865
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: in order to be the best friends I can be.

866
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: You know, there are you know, and you learn, you

867
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: do things and you I took them the park and

868
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: it was like one hundred and ten. So when they

869
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: were walking towards me, I was like, these are all

870
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: my children because they had ten red so I was like,

871
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: oh Sian screening.

872
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: You know.

873
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: So by me learning of who they are and their culture,

874
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: it really helps, you know, that also helps me to

875
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: marge their culture and my culture.

876
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: You know, any food they are so picky.

877
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: But if I say this is African food, they're like, okay,

878
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: sure I'll try, you know, but if I didn't say that,

879
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: they won't try. So in some way that they've really

880
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: you know, taken on that culture of this is who

881
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: our dad is and that's part of who we are.

882
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: In a way makes me. Probably the hardest part is

883
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: when we call people call police on me often, you know,

884
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: and that's the hardest for them when someone is questioning

885
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: their father, like what do you what do you mean?

886
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, we go to cast go often and you

887
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: know the samples, you know, every time we go, someone

888
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: will The rule is they can all video child unless

889
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: the parents is there, you know. But most some they

890
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: will say can you go get to your mom and dad?

891
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: And they're like, he's right here. What do you mean?

892
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: You know? Uh?

893
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: And then they're the ones who kind of really want

894
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: to raise their voice. I'm like, hey, no, you know,

895
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: we get to teach this person change their nulative. And

896
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: usually we say, you know, hey, next time, do not

897
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: assume I'm standing there.

898
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: Just say are you their father?

899
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: And I will say yes or no, you know, And

900
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: most of my turn around I say, if I wasn't black,

901
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: would you have asked the same question? They say, no,

902
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: why because I see the other families often and I've

903
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 2: never seen any like yours.

904
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in fairness, let's not villainious people. Absolutely, you know,

905
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: if I watched you walk up with two kids, I

906
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: would not naturally assume you're their father. That is not racist.

907
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: That is just a culture recognition, right, it's the reaction

908
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: to that yes that tells you everything. Yep, it is

909
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: okay to not have a natural assumption. It is reaction

910
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: to the reality that we'll tell you everything.

911
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: Ask yes, or sometimes picked them up from Dick. If

912
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: the person who I drop was and they like children,

913
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you have children. I am like, yep,

914
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: five of them over there?

915
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: Oh it was five? Anybody else any other questions at all?

916
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Come on, why are you the most eligible bachelor in America?

917
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: What's wrong with all these women?

918
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 3: Yes?

919
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: My phone number is here.

920
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: Well, so you know. So remember I went to school.

921
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: I was sixteen, so that means at sixteen I was

922
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: in grade one. You know, at seven I wasn't great too,

923
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: So for me, I had to catch up in order

924
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: to be somewhere. So even when I came to our states,

925
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: I've always you know, always been behind. So you know,

926
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm the oldest of five, so I wanted all my

927
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: siblings have gone through university, are doing well. It's amazing

928
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: when we do one how it changes the entire family.

929
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: And that's how my family changed. It wasn't because yes,

930
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: I could send them to school, but it was more

931
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: of if Peter can do it, we can do it

932
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: as well, and that's the joy when we help one

933
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: child who comes from the same family that looking from

934
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: my father able to believe so so so for me,

935
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: I really really really always behind. So in some way,

936
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: you know, dating can be a little difficult when you

937
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: live on the opposite side of the way you do things,

938
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: you know. For me, I wanted to be a Fosse friend.

939
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: Either I have I'm married, or I'm not. Like this

940
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: is my calling. And also I realized that it's my calling,

941
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: but not necessarily a calling for everyone, you know, some

942
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: time for people who are public places like us, people

943
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: will admire you, but they admire you as a dad,

944
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: but they forget about Hey, the kids I have and

945
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: as normal as the kids you expect, like they have trauma,

946
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: and I want to make sure that your trauma informed,

947
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, in order to ever even have a day.

948
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: But I have six, like you know, how do every

949
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: time I go on a day, I bring all my

950
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: kids and usually they never come back again. It's really

951
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: my call, and I'm trying to really show people, especially

952
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: men like hey, and and single women as well, like

953
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: we wait, we're waiting for someone to come so we

954
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: can have a farmer, and I'm just saying, while you're waiting,

955
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: could he be a mom? Could he be a dad

956
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: to a kid who needs? And when they come, they

957
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: get to know your passion and get to know what

958
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: you love, but don't divit to what you're passionate about,

959
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: because waiting for someone who will never come or will

960
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: come and never understand what you're passionate about.

961
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: From a tiny village that had to walk four miles

962
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: to get water back and forth to now a college

963
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: graduate doing all you're doing, and all of your siblings

964
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: have now gone to university. And it all started because

965
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: one day, one person asked your name? Yes, how hard

966
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: is it for us to exact some measure positive change

967
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: on people around us every single day? This whole story

968
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: started because a man saw you as human and just said,

969
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: what's your name?

970
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: Yep, he saw potential and that's all he looked at.

971
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: And if we can do that for others when we

972
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 2: see the potential, not see the behaviors, but really focus

973
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: on that potential. I know they have behaviors, but I

974
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: know where it's coming from. The empathy in how we

975
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: respond is different because we know where it's coming from,

976
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: you know, But that's not going to detest us from

977
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: seeing potent shorting people.

978
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: Is the foster dad Flipper. He's the foster dad forty

979
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: seven kids adopted father or three and three more in

980
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the oven, baking them up, about to get them out.

981
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: He's the author of the new book Love Does Not

982
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: Conquer All and all the other surprising lessons I learned

983
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: as foster dad the more forty kids. He's from Charlotte,

984
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He is hilarious, and he is a great

985
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: human being. Peter MUDBAZZI don't say it right again.

986
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: Yes, Peter so actually is my father's name. After forgiving him,

987
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: I really wanted his last name, because, you know, just

988
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: so he can know that I'll leave a different legacy

989
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: than he lived through his name in a way. So

990
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: that's why I called him. My previous last name was Happy.

991
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm a gift given to me by God. In my village,

992
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: for every one hundred children were born, sixty would die

993
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: before the age of two. So my mom waited until

994
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: I was who I snimmed me a gift given to

995
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: me by guy.

996
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: Peter. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for telling your story

997
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable and inspirational, And for those of you who want

998
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: to hang around and get a copy of his book,

999
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: He's going to sign it for you. Peter, thank you

1000
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you all right, that's it, every body,

1001
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining and uh, Peter's here if you

1002
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: want to book and want to say.

1003
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Hi, oh you got that out of man man, thank.

1004
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: You, thank you, thanks, and thank you for joining us

1005
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: this week. If Peter Mudabasi has inspired you in general,

1006
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: or better yet, to take action by fostering kids, adopting

1007
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: a child, helping out foster and adoptive parents in your community,

1008
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: or something else entirely, really, y'all let me know. I

1009
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: want to hear about it. You can write me anytime

1010
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: at Bill at normalfolks dot us. If you enjoyed this episode,

1011
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,960
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1012
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,879
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1013
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,239
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1014
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: will help us grow an army of normal folks. I'm

1015
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: Bill Courtney. Until next time, do what you can