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Speaker 2: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: November fourteenth. And you know this as a big time

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Speaker 2: Jets fan. Your boy was pumping the fist when the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills went down in a spectacular disaster of a

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Speaker 2: Monday night football game. There's a lot to chew on here.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills dropped two five hundred. Yes, the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: now five and five after Josh Allen. We're gonna probably

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Speaker 2: spend fifteen minutes on Josh Allen and his regression. He

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Speaker 2: is not the same guy. Sean mc is it. Sean McDermott. Yeh,

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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott is gonna be in some trouble. They were

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Speaker 2: trailing for fifty eight minutes in this game. They fumbled

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Speaker 2: on their first play and were instantly down like three

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Speaker 2: to nothing, and they never totally got back in the game.

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Speaker 2: And then they scored that late touchdown because Denver missed

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Speaker 2: an extra point off the upright and then totally botch

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Speaker 2: a snap and couldn't even get it off. Just an

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Speaker 2: abomination and special team from Denver. Although the returns were

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Speaker 2: pretty good, just the kicking, and then Denver goes quickly

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Speaker 2: like I didn't understand this. They took a knee and

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Speaker 2: then tried to sprint off the field. They rushed the

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Speaker 2: team on. I don't know why they didn't just spike

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Speaker 2: the ball. That seems stupid. Spiking would have killed the

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Speaker 2: clock and you don't have to sprint off and rush

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Speaker 2: the kicking team on it. Anyways, Buffalo quickly sprints runs

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Speaker 2: their guys on the kick misses and you're like, oh, Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: these lucky bastards are going to move to six and

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Speaker 2: four flag on the plate, twelve met on the field. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you guys can like McDermott, he could have got an

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Speaker 2: extension as he did in what was it the preseason

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Speaker 2: August or September, he got an extension. And folks, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no way when you go from being going toe

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Speaker 2: to toe with the Chiefs in one of the great

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Speaker 2: playoff games this century and all you do is regress.

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Speaker 2: We can blame it on the Deamorrow Hamlin and the

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Speaker 2: schedule with the flights last year and the weather Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: What do you blame it now, Oh, we're gonna blame

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey. He's the problem. He's the reason. Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 2: is the reason Josh Allen cannot hand the ball off

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Speaker 2: to James Cook. Ken Dorsey is the reason Josh Allen's

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Speaker 2: going yolo with two picks. Like if there was a

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Speaker 2: time hold on I wrote this down. There was a

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Speaker 2: moment in the it looks like yeah, early third quarter,

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Speaker 2: fourth and two for Buffalo and you're like, oh, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: is like, oh, we're going for it. They're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: I've watched enough Josh Allen to know this is automatic.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna either get it with his feet or she's

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Speaker 2: gonna get Stefan Diggs wide open. Somebody's gonna be open.

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Speaker 2: This is what Buffalo does. And as soon as Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen drops back to throw, like nobody's open and you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh geez, and Josh Allen's scrambling and he's not like

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Speaker 2: outrunning everybody, and you're like oh geez. And it's incomplete

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Speaker 2: and it's like, what what's happening? This is not the

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Speaker 2: same team that was utterly dominant the last two years.

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Speaker 2: And folks, we could all say and I know this

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Speaker 2: stat nerds like to point out, oh, EPA, EPA is

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Speaker 2: three quarterback this season. Nobody watching football would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: No sane person will tell you Josh Allen, who, by

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Speaker 2: the way, was not great on Monday, the last time

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Speaker 2: they had a night game against Tampa, and he was

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Speaker 2: not great last night. Fifteen of twenty six for one,

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Speaker 2: seventy seven for carries thirteen yards. Like, this was not

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Speaker 2: a great Josh Allen game. This we could say he's

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Speaker 2: you know, thrown an interception now in six straight games.

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Speaker 2: As I look at the game log, like, he just

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Speaker 2: hasn't been great folks, last one, two, three, four, five games,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen has one three hundred yard game and it

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Speaker 2: was against Tampa. Seventy seven percent completions, did have the

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Speaker 2: ugly pick. They didn't cover the spread. For what it's worth,

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Speaker 2: So Buffalo did not cover against Denver, did not cover

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Speaker 2: against Cincy, didn't cover against Tampa, didn't cover, lost to

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Speaker 2: Six straight games. They have not covered the spread since

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Speaker 2: that beatdown of Miami. It's almost like that game and

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be Rob will not kill me for

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Speaker 2: this because he understands how I think. But I floated

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Speaker 2: the Josh Allen had the breakup with the girl, the

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Speaker 2: longtime girlfriend, and then he moved on to like this

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Speaker 2: What are we chalking it up to now? And don't

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Speaker 2: tell me this Ken Dorsey stuff. Oh it's different over see.

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey was like Dables right hand guy. They're not

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Speaker 2: running totally different stuff. If you want to blame McDermott

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Speaker 2: and say, well he wants to run and establish to run, okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean they had kinkaid. They were gonna do the

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Speaker 2: waiting for Stefan Diggs outburst on the sideline. That's what

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for. This ain't This is not a

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Speaker 2: good team right now, Rob, I'm looking at the schedule

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Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills and listen, you know, we're cooking

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Speaker 2: up takes left and right. You know, it's like you're

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Speaker 2: cooking for your family, you're coming in for Thanksgiving, and

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Speaker 2: you're just cooking up takes. And that's every week. And

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Speaker 2: I still think arguably a top five take I've had

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Speaker 2: this summer was the Buffalo Bill's super Bowl window will

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Speaker 2: be closed. And I'm just gonna rattle off this schedule

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Speaker 2: like they have the Jets this week. I think they'll

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Speaker 2: be okay, it's a short week and Jets come in angry.

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Speaker 2: Jets won the first game. I just don't know if

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Speaker 2: That's six. Rob. Are they one hundred percent winning against

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Speaker 1: No way, would I say one hundred percent they're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So I tell you that schedule. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just crazy, Rob. The AFC is bonkers. If you

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Speaker 2: just a I mean, Rob's Raiders are eleventh, Chargers are twelfth.

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Speaker 2: for it. Tannessey's kind of sort of eliminated, Denver's back

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs. But honestly, Cleveland has six wins their six.

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Speaker 2: Denver has four wins, they're fourteen. The distance between seven

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Speaker 2: from just absolute chaos if we're not already there, Robin

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's looking upwards, you know, for my Raiders

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Speaker 1: and your Jets, two teams that were left for dead

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Speaker 1: as recently as what yesterday, So you know, check it out,

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Speaker 1: things might be looking up here on the Straight Fire podcast,

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Speaker 1: look this whole situation with Buffalo. Kudos to you for

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Speaker 1: saying that the window was closed in the offseason, and

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Speaker 1: shame on me for getting this close to the edge

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Speaker 1: of my take about the Buffalo Bills. If you remember,

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Speaker 1: NFL preseason preview, I had your New York Jets winning

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Speaker 1: ten games. And so I was this close to being

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Speaker 1: heavyweight teams that you had in the NFL Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, Niners.

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Speaker 1: I was just it's a bad job by me. But

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Speaker 1: what exactly iss gone down because it can't just be

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Speaker 1: excuse me, when Brian Daball was there in Buffalo, it

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Speaker 1: looked prettier, it didn't look as labored. To watch Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: EPA and Dvoa very comparable. Having said that Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: up the turnovers in six straight games. He now leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL both in interceptions with eleven and turnovers with thirteen, okay,

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Speaker 1: Allen now has ten games with at least three turnovers.

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Speaker 1: The next closest guys behind him in order Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Famous Jamis Winston. Not exactly the company you

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Speaker 1: want to keep if you're an NFL quarterback. Right So,

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermom is going to get fired in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I think that seems pretty clear, barring some miraculous turnaround,

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Speaker 1: has to be what can we do to limit the

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Speaker 1: roller coaster ride that is Josh Allen? How can we

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Speaker 1: make him more Disneyland, you know, just the little peaks

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Speaker 2: In all honesty, we talked about McDermott coaching for his job.

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Speaker 1: out to Russell Wilson, who has been left for dead,

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Speaker 1: Short kings are back, Jason. I know you don't want

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask you. So twenty four of twenty nine

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Speaker 2: It's so fine. I was like, oh yo, do you

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously I couldn't go, but I like to

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Speaker 2: I you never like I asked earlier, what where's this?

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Speaker 2: Man fourteen got to get up out of there. That

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Speaker 2: What acl surgery? Way to put your bro on blast?

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Speaker 2: But it does feel like this ship be sinking. Who

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Speaker 2: It might have been an NFL The ship be sinking.

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Speaker 2: It was hilarious, and it was just like I think

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Speaker 2: But man, Rob, this goes south fast. If Stefan Digs wants.

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Speaker 1: Out, well, you know what's funny about this whole situation

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Speaker 2: but before I get to that, Rob, So I have,

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Speaker 2: So Belichick, you know, was like an older guy. He's

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? They were living together, traveling together,

425
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Speaker 2: like life together, fifteen years, sixteen years, and then all

426
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: of a sudden they break up. And now it's like

427
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: football season and it's like, of course things are gonna

428
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 2: be different. And this whole Belichick disaster, I don't know. Man, Listen,

429
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: this schedule's not easy the rest of the way. Rob,

430
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: this Craft situation, it doesn't look good. Man. You never

431
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: want to hate on guys or try to get a fire,

432
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Speaker 2: But talk me through how Belichick saves his job. Hey,

433
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: you know what, we're trash Jack Jones, who we loved

434
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: last year, he's gone. Now we just cut him this week.

435
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: Jac Jackson's next. He doesn't want to show up to

436
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Speaker 2: practice on time. Yeah, but you know what, Rob billionire Rob,

437
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 2: Rob Kraft, Bob whatever he calls him. Uh, what do you?

438
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Speaker 2: Let me make the pick at number two? I have

439
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: been a train wreck in the last I don't know

440
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: ten fifteen drafts. I can't get anything right. Let me

441
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: just take our guy at two. Okay, let me make

442
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: the pick. We'll start the new regime. Let's just start over.

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Speaker 2: Are you letting him do that?

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Speaker 1: Rob?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, not negatory.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of buryed the I feel

449
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: like single Bill Belichick, you know, might be my favorite

450
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: thing we could have talked about on that podcast. Imagine

451
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: him showing up to Spago here in LA with a

452
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: cutoff hoodie.

453
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably roll in and you know, hang out with

454
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Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian on FaceTime or whatever. Your jokes around about

455
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: not knowing what Facebook is. But I don't know. It's

456
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: just like you just hear you hear this stuff, and

457
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 2: you just start thinking, like you could see him completely different,

458
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 2: Like you've worked with people who maybe have gone through

459
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Speaker 2: something tough and you could tell their behavior is different.

460
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, then they tell you

461
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 2: what happened. You're like, oh, I got it, you know,

462
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: like I'm not saying that's why Belichick and the Patriots stink. Dan,

463
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: you know Mac Jones blows. We get that, but Rob,

464
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: it's just it just feels off in New England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not something that's unusual, Like you know,

466
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Speaker 1: you started off this podcast communa full circle, Josh Allen,

467
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, leaving his girlfriend and date some actress. I

468
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: don't even know they're still together. But people think that

469
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Speaker 1: athletes and entertainers and actors and singers and all this stuff,

470
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Speaker 1: that they are kind of like robots, that they're just objects.

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Speaker 1: They're not really people. They don't have real emotions, they

472
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Speaker 1: don't have real issues. Anybody and any walk of life,

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Speaker 1: if you have a personal issue that means anything to you,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a family friend, a close friend, a wife, spouse, kids, whatever,

475
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Speaker 1: and something traumatic happens, no matter how big on the

476
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Speaker 1: spectrum it is, it's going to affect your work performance.

477
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Speaker 1: And as much as you expect these professional athletes to

478
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Speaker 1: compartmentalize and just focus on the field, and because that's

479
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Speaker 1: what you're worried about, you came more about your team

480
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Speaker 1: than they do apparently, But that kind of stuff matters,

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Speaker 1: Like how do you expect a quarterback like Josh Allen

482
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Speaker 1: to focus on the cover two robber scheme that the

483
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos run on third down or anything within seven

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Speaker 1: yards when let's say hypothetically he gets home and he

485
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Speaker 1: and his wife are having a knockout, drag out argument

486
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Speaker 1: or his girlfriend for three hours. Just like if that

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Speaker 1: back and do a show the next day, we're probably

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Speaker 1: not going to be, you know, at our peak performance

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Speaker 1: if we didn't get sleep that night before, like real life,

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Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 2: Tell, you could, you could tell by Monday showing was

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Speaker 2: not my best effort, but hey, it happens, you know,

494
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Speaker 2: like I'm rebounded, went to bed early on Monday night,

495
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Speaker 2: rebounding here strong on Tuesday, feeling great, But it happens,

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Speaker 2: all right, rob I got, I got some hot takes

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Speaker 2: this video and it's weird, like listen, you know that.

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Speaker 2: And I've talked about this a lot. November's my toughest

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Speaker 2: month for NFL gambling historically, because you start thinking about Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: the holidays, you're doing family stuff, Christmas card photos, all

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Speaker 2: I totally missed this but on let's see what day

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Speaker 2: it was. Damn it. I didn't even write the day

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Speaker 2: down early last week. I'm sorry. Last week November eighth.

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Speaker 2: That looks like against Minnesota, Zion Williamson missed the game

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Speaker 2: for personal reasons. Did not even see it, didn't notice it.

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Speaker 2: Like I guess, Zion is kind of fallen so far

533
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: that people aren't like if Zion misses a game, it's

534
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: not like, oh, Zion miss a game, what's going on?

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00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: Remember over the summer he had that baby daddy drama

536
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: where Zion was like, I don't know, dating a porn

537
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Speaker 2: star and then got a stripper pregnant on the side

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00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: and then she's a nightmare and he you know, he

539
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: had like the baby gender reveal, and in the middle

540
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: of it, you know, the porn star is like putting

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00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: all this stuff on social media about Zion, really really

542
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: ugly stuff like this. The end is near for Zion,

543
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: Like this is tough to bounce back from personally, not professionally.

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00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: Obviously he could play ball, and she talked about like

545
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: how she was helping him lose weight. It's just an

546
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: ugly saga. But you know, the NBA season starts. They

547
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: start four and one, and Zion looked good early. You're like, oh, okay,

548
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: and then you know, the first NBA is weird because

549
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: the first like ten days, two weeks, you're in you're

550
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: tracking it, and then maybe you're following your team or

551
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: your fantasy players or superstars or whatever, but it's mostly

552
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: college football, NFL. Yeah, the World Series was wrapping up.

553
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: It's just it's a busy time in sports. So Zion

554
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: missed this game for personal reasons and I didn't even

555
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: notice it. And then all of a sudden, they lose CJ.

556
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: McCollum to this collapse lung and it's like, oh, that's graphic.

557
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: That stinks, and they what had started is four and

558
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: one for the Pelicans, suddenly they've lost five in a row.

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00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: They can't get stops. I mean, the defense is an abomination.

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00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: And after a loss to the Mavericks, Zion Williams this

561
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: was the last loss, I guess. Sunday night, Zion Williamson

562
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: sitting at the podium and he's like breathing heavily. Like

563
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, if you guys know when you like overweight

564
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: people or out of shape people, if you know, sometimes

565
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: they're breathing heavily. I'm not knocking out of shape over

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00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: with people, they just breathe heavily. And Zion's at the

567
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: podium like breathing heavily. And this is like, well, after

568
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: the game, he clearly had showered everything, and he just

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00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: didn't look or sound great, and he said, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: my best to buy in right now. And he's a

571
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: little fidgety, and you're like, oh, geez, what the hell's

572
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: going on? And he's like not complaining, but he's being

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Speaker 2: honest and kind of revealing. You're like, oh, okay, what

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00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: do we have here? And then you start looking into

575
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: it and you're like, well, let me see how Zion's

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00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: doing with his numbers. And then I looked at that

577
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: Mavericks game and they're getting blasted. I mean they're down

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Speaker 2: twenty four points heading into the fourth quarter. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just a bloodbath. But then I look at the

580
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: starting lineup and I'm like, wait a minute, is that real?

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00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Hawkins, the rookie from Yukon is starting, and Dyson

582
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: Daniels is starting. No wonder they can't get stops. But

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Speaker 2: then it gets worse. I started looking at Zion's numbers.

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Speaker 2: He's only he didn't play that much. Twenty eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: He took eleven shots. That's it for Zion Williamson. He

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Speaker 2: had six turnovers and seven baskets. Okay, he's not rebounding

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00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: his rebounding numbers. I've just fallen off a cliff. But

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00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: here's what's trouble. Zion took eleven shots. Jordan Hawkins, a

589
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Speaker 2: rookie playing in like what his tenth game, took thirteen shots.

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Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels, I think he's the G League guy. He's

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: a young kid, he played a little last year. Took

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Speaker 2: twelve shots. Zion took fewer. So now you've got Zion

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Speaker 2: saying I'm trying to buy in. You've got a super

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: young Clearly not ready backcoard, can't get stops. Then I

595
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: drilled down a little more on Zion stats. If you

596
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: guys remember coming out of Duke Man, he was a

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00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: marvel to behold, awesome shot blocker, just unstoppable near the rim.

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00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Like maybe he's a little heavier, but this is the

599
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: number that scared me. Zion has one block shot this season,

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Speaker 2: so he ain't playing any kind of interior defense. He's

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Speaker 2: not getting in to the line like he used to.

602
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: His shooting percentage he was putting up like around the rim,

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Speaker 2: he was shooting like shack prime shack, like sixty sixty

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Speaker 2: five percent. He's just automatic, a bucket. He could just

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00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: plow through or over anyone. He's down in like fifty

606
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Speaker 2: percent shooting fifty one percent. So like it hasn't really

607
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: gotten any pub but it's very clear that things are

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00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: not going well in New Orleans. You guys don't have

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00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: this big Zion Williamson fan. The NBA is a better

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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: place when Zion Williamson is a monster. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that he's ever going to get back to what he

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Speaker 2: was when he was an unstoppable force at Duke and

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00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: came into the league and he was like setting the

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Speaker 2: world on fire. I don't know that he's ever gonna

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Speaker 2: get there, and that's really really crappy, especially when you

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Speaker 2: consider the other guy who came in with him, John Morant,

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: just hasn't done anything off the court that gives you

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Speaker 2: any pause like that he's going to be a superstar,

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Speaker 2: Like John Moran's a nightmare. He's just a train wreck

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Speaker 2: off the court. He's just spend it for the first

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Speaker 2: twenty five games. By the time Memphis gets back, or

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Speaker 2: by the time Job returns to Memphis, Memphis gonna be

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Speaker 2: out of the plaoff bits, if they're not already. It

624
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: is really ugly. Like I know, we're talking football and

625
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Speaker 2: we do a lot of gambling and too pot committed

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Speaker 2: to the NFL in football right now, But folks, did

627
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Zion Williams the story very underplayed. They need CJ. McCollum

628
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: back badly, badly, And I know people are laughing at

629
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Speaker 2: James Harden and everybody's focused on the Sixers who are hot,

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Speaker 2: and obviously Lebron's always a story. But like this Zion

631
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Speaker 2: thing is a massive deal. And the other leg to

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Speaker 2: this is and I forget who I was talking to

633
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Speaker 2: about this but if you look at the best players

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Speaker 2: in the NBA right now, obviously Jokic is unstoppable, Jannis

635
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: is a machine, Luka Doncic just playing at an MVP

636
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: level to start the season. And then you've got Victor Wambinyama,

637
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: who everybody wants to take a look at. Now. Spurs

638
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: have kind of fallen a bit here in the last

639
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 2: week after that hot start, but you know, the bottom

640
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: line is the four must see guys are all Europeans

641
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: who didn't play a second of college basketball. The NBA

642
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: had been hoping that the two American stars, Jah Moran

643
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: and Zion Williamson would be able to maybe have next

644
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: and they very clearly don't have necks. Like, sure, Joel

645
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Embiid is looking good and he's a good story. Tyrese Maxie,

646
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's still kind of a two. He's been

647
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: amazing fifty points the other night, But like, the NBA

648
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: really could use Zion Williamson, and it's just sad how

649
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: him and Ja Morant, guys who were spectacular dunkers, are

650
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: starting to I don't know, they're not. Neither of these

651
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: guys is even like twenty seven years old, and none

652
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: of them looks like the future of the league or

653
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: even close. Not great for the NBA. All right, I'll

654
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: wrap up with Jim Harbaugh and Michigan because I saw

655
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 2: what I thought was, you know, one of the great

656
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: Jim Harball, and is he trolling? Is he being honest?

657
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Is what's the move when you take to the podium

658
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: the Monday after you got suspended, and you know, you

659
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: look to medi in the eye and you basically say

660
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: we're America's team. That's what Jim Harball is saying, Hey,

661
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: you know, we kind of got kind of busted and

662
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: people are coming after us. And it was almost, dare

663
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: I say political, the way he dug his heels in,

664
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: looked up and just tried to act like, hey, we're

665
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: not at fault, we didn't do anything. How are we

666
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: catching easier? Right? That, to me was the vibe that

667
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Jim Harball gave when he met the media. It was

668
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: one of hey, man, like you're either with us or

669
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: against us, you know, And I don't want to get

670
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: too political here, but it felt very trumpion when he

671
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: stands up and is essentially saying, hey man, we're America's team,

672
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: America's team, Like this is how you addressed the potential

673
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: three game suspension with your stacked team. Now, Listen, we

674
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: can all disagree on the suspension and and and you

675
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: know whether or not he should have got it. Listen.

676
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: I've gone back and forth on this, and obviously I'm

677
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: going to have my opinions on what the heck I

678
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: should think about Jim Harball and the saga, and I'll

679
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: do my own research. I'm do my own research guy

680
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: on Jim Harball, and it's weird. I feel like I've

681
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: wavered now the other way. I've gone back to thinking

682
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: that maybe there is something here, and I got it

683
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: from one of my buddies. I'm not going to really

684
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: say what he's in, but he's in like he knows

685
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: college football really well because of some of his background

686
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: and what he's done for work. So obviously I asked him.

687
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I need your thoughts on Harball. He's

688
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: a narcissistic maniac who chose to win at all costs

689
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: approach because he was tired of getting his ass kicked.

690
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: And here we are getting humiliated annually by rivals and

691
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: having to accept a pay cut, willing to do anything

692
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: to win. Oh, I told my buddy, that is good. Now,

693
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: this guy not affiliated with Ohio State or Michigan Sat

694
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 2: or any of those, any of those schools, he did

695
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: go to a very prominent college college football power and

696
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: he's plugged in and there it's weird. My initial counter is, well,

697
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: they're really dominating now and they're playing their best football

698
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: the last two years because they finally have a quarterback.

699
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: They got JJ McCarthy. He couldn't figure out the quarterback

700
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: wherever they were, like Shay Patterson, the kid from Ole

701
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Miss and they were like bouncing around and they couldn't

702
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: find a guy. So now Jim Harball, who knows quarterbacks,

703
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: finally gets his quarterback. But there is That was my

704
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: thought process, like, I don't think this cheating is like

705
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: really helping Jim Harball, Right, It's almost like the deflate

706
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: Gate thing with Tom Brady, like he would prefer the

707
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: ball a little bit deflated. Is it the end of

708
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: the world, of course not. Is it bending the rules? Yeah?

709
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: Is it spygate? I that's it. I don't know. Now

710
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking out loud, is Harball as bad as Spygate?

711
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: Because the Patriots I think were sneaking or got caught

712
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: sneaking into a Super Bowl walk through or a practice

713
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: that the Rams had before the Super Bowl, and they

714
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: were caught videotaping it. That's a little different than going

715
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: into a stadium with seventy thousand people and simply recording

716
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: the signals they're doing. I mean, there's ten Jabbroni's on

717
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: the sideline holding up pictures of Jessica Simpson. I don't

718
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: know why. I just thought of Jessica Simpson, Britney's beeers

719
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: whoever tailor swift whatever, and like a corn on the

720
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: cob and a buffalo, you know, and we're supposed to

721
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: decipher that this idea that Stallions and the Michigan code

722
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: breakers were somehow deciphering exactly what I don't know Indiana

723
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: was doing, and they were stealing Indiana signs like they

724
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: would even need to. I mean, to me, it just

725
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: seems silly, like is he trying to get an edge?

726
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: Of course, of course he's trying to get an edge.

727
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Who doesn't try to get an edge. If you're not

728
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: trying to get an edge, you're probably falling behind. Now,

729
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to be cheating. It's a

730
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: fine line. It like it's just it's a tough situation.

731
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: But for Harbaugh to now take all of this, face

732
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: the music, and then say we're America's team. I'm watching

733
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: everybody blasting us on TV. Yeah, well everybody should be

734
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: rooting for us what we're dealing with. And it's almost

735
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: like and again I said Trumpian, and I know some

736
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: of you guys that will DM me about the politics

737
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: and you don't like it. And it's not like it's

738
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: a knock. That's just how he operated. That's how politicians

739
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: are operating. Now. I'm not gonna face the hard questions.

740
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say, you know what, here's my side.

741
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: You with me or you against me? And that seems

742
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: to be what Harball's doing here. Now. I don't really

743
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: have a problem with it. I thought it was extremely

744
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: ballsy of Jim Horbaugh to take the podium and go

745
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: that route. It seems like he's ready to have World

746
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: War three with the Big Ten and their commissioner. I

747
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: saw a story that Michigan's threatening to leave the BI

748
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: ten over this. That seems a little irrational. But I

749
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: have no idea what to believe. I don't know what's

750
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: going on in Michigan and crazy college football. It's just

751
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: a it's a wacky sport with a lot of craziness happening. Ultimately,

752
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: I think this is good for the sport. And you know,

753
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if you know. Cowherd's theory

754
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: on air was that essentially Harbaugh said, we've got the lead.

755
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: I want to make this game ugly. I want to

756
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: run the football. I want you guys to run the

757
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: football every down. In the fact second half, I mean,

758
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy barely through the football, and it was like,

759
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: we want to stick it to the big ten. We

760
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: want the product to be ugly. We're gonna win anyway,

761
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: and it's setting up Michigan Ohio State to be basically

762
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: the game of the year because the winner will go

763
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: to the playoff. And when you've got all this surrounding drama,

764
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: who turned in Michigan. Michigan has a quarterback, but they

765
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: don't have a coach, you know, like it's kind of

766
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: sort of fascinating what's happening in Mischigon, and I just

767
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: it's weird. I've gone back and forth on Harball on

768
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: do I like him or not. I think this certainly

769
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: has to push him to the NFL. There's no reason

770
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: he needs to deal with this crap in college. You know,

771
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of worn out his welcome. According to

772
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: some people at Michigan, he's everywhere he's gone. He stayed

773
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: like three, four or five years, and then he moves

774
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: on because he wears you down. He's a tough guy

775
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: to handle, and it just feels like he's going to

776
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: have his pick of the litter in the NFL of

777
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: where he wants to go. I cannot see him staying

778
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: in Michigan. I do think it would be awesome if

779
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: he won the title and walked off with the double

780
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: middle fingers. I'm out see bitches, you know, like just

781
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: real jerk about it. I think that would be kind

782
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: of cool. So yeah, I don't know this. The Jim

783
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: Harball stuff is because when you really dig into the

784
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: cheating and the scandal, and that's in air quotes, it's like, Okay,

785
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: a guy was in the state recording with his iPhone

786
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: the signals to the bench that the bench was giving

787
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: the quarterback, and it's like, Okay, well that probably happens

788
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: a ton a and b if you watch the game,

789
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: you could do pick up the signals the same way

790
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: at Like again, it's not it's bending the rules. I'm

791
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: trying to find an analogy to, you know, when I

792
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: coach youth sports, but I don't coach football. I didn't

793
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: sum my kid up for football. I never actually played

794
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: football as a kid. I just you know, backyard football

795
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: like Caleb Williams and football in the street, two hand touched,

796
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: you tackle, all that. But all the guys I know

797
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: who coach football, man, they watch a ton of tape

798
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: they're scouting. Are they stealing signs of like middle school

799
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: for I don't know if it gets that in depth.

800
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised if this happens in college football. I

801
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked if it that. But in the NFL,

802
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean we hell, we've seen the Patriots get busted.

803
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just I kind of like

804
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: this drama. I don't think Michigan's in any trouble this weekend.

805
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: I think the Ohio State game. Man, oh, I'm very

806
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: stoked for that one. All right, So we have a

807
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: big week. We got a really good Thursday night football game.

808
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Although a lot of injuries for Bengals Ravens. It's wacky.

809
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: Anytime I have a good week, I fire a lot

810
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: of bets early in the week. Anytime I don't have

811
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: a great week, I'm holding off five double digit spreads

812
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: this week, haven't bet? Well, you know what I might have.

813
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Let me just quickly double check. I think I was

814
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: either on the doorstep of firing on Washing. Yeah, I did.

815
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: I did. I'm sorry. I took just a nibble, Just

816
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: a nibble, not a lot. Danny DeVito's kidnap, not Dandydavito, Mike,

817
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Tommy Davito getting ten against Sam Howell and Washed. Yes,

818
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: just a little bit, not a significant amount, because frankly,

819
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't think I could stomach losing backing Divito. I

820
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: just I don't think you can lay points with Sam Howell,

821
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: and especially not double digits. This guy Washington favored this

822
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: year zero and three against the spread, two outright losses.

823
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: I could see the Giants defense showing up after get

824
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: getting kind of humiliated by Dallas and making a player too.

825
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: So I think this game will be interesting. Remember this

826
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: is a Washington team that lost at home to Chicago. Okay,

827
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: so let's stop gassing up, sahow. I think the only

828
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: side you can play there is the Giants. It's not

829
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: a significant play for me, not a whale player whatever

830
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: they call it. But that was my first NFL But

831
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: this week just because I had to fire something. All

832
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: right back tomorrow