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Speaker 1: who will be the cornerback opposite Byron Murphy. We'll explain,

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Speaker 1: but first movie news. That's right, Kurt Warner isn't the

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Speaker 1: Cover two, episode four thirty six, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike

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Speaker 1: asy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right,

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Speaker 1: ran across this late last week and I got to

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Speaker 1: there is life after professional football. And according to three

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Speaker 1: Down Nation, a site dedicated to the Canadian Football League,

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Speaker 1: Plumber will start in the movie Kick, which will be

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Speaker 1: grade jump from forty three point six to seventy four

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Speaker 1: point seven. Those are tremendous leaps forward to where now

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Speaker 1: you hope that there is a second leap moving forward

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Speaker 1: to where, yeah, we're not having this conversation next season.

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Speaker 1: We all know that Byron Murphy is the number one corner,

433
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Speaker 1: not just what we're hearing from the coaches. Yeah, I

434
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Speaker 1: mean when you look back at it, I mean the

435
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Speaker 1: fact that he was throwing in the mix from day one.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Kyler Murray, you know, throwing in a mix,

437
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Speaker 1: and you want to slow play these guys, but because

438
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Speaker 1: of a suspension and obviously the Alford's injuries, he was

439
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: throwing the fire and he ended to learn quick and

440
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Speaker 1: he struggled his first year. I'm sure his confidence wasn't

441
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Speaker 1: the same, but I know that he learned a lot

442
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Speaker 1: from Patrick Peterson how to cover receivers when you're at

443
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, make sure you're looking at their legs.

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Speaker 1: He always asked questions and by going through that, it's

445
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Speaker 1: made him a better player. And from that standpoint, he

446
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: feels like, you know what, I can play in this league,

447
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: and I can play at a high level given the

448
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: talent around this team, and on defense in particular, started

449
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Speaker 1: seven games played in fifteen match the team high with

450
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Speaker 1: eight passes, defense had two sacks, and NFL Network analytics

451
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Speaker 1: experts Cynthia Freeland listed Murphy as her most underappreciated player

452
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Speaker 1: on the Cardinals, and a lot of what she does

453
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Speaker 1: is they say inside baseball, But I think it's important

454
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Speaker 1: to point out bird Gang because it does show what

455
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about here. It's not just us, it's

456
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Speaker 1: not just the coaching staff, it's those on the outside

457
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Speaker 1: paying attention to do this as well. She writes of

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Speaker 1: Murphy quote, He's improved his ball tracking, which is measured

459
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Speaker 1: by his hips facing the ball at the second highest

460
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Speaker 1: rate of improvement over the past two seasons. His body control,

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Speaker 1: measured by recovery once contacted avoiding penalties also increased dramatically

462
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Speaker 1: in year two. Again, that's a lot of inside knowledge,

463
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Speaker 1: but it does show you how much he has developed

464
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Speaker 1: his body as far as what it takes to be

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Speaker 1: successful at the pro level. Not just being quicker, stronger,

466
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Speaker 1: faster than everyone else that you get away with in

467
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Speaker 1: high school in college. No, it's about technique and really

468
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Speaker 1: about knowing your body, where your hips are, where your

469
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Speaker 1: eyes are to avoid some of these bad plays or

470
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Speaker 1: bad penalties that are costing your team. And once again

471
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: every player was wearing a GPS and that goes the

472
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Speaker 1: next gen stats, so she's able to get those analytics

473
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Speaker 1: to where he could see the way he covers and

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Speaker 1: how you know he's not able to you know, some

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Speaker 1: of the things that you pointed out that she said,

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Speaker 1: you know, tracking the ball, measured his hips facing the

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Speaker 1: ball at the second level rate. Yeah, there weren't a

478
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Speaker 1: GPS and she has analytics there, So that makes total

479
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Speaker 1: sense versus us just saying, well, he's more physical, he's

480
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: more confident, he's more comfortable. Exactly, there's there's there's something

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Speaker 1: to back up those statements, and that is what the analytics,

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Speaker 1: that's what Pro Football Focus provides us. Here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Covered two presented by Hunday proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

484
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Speaker 1: will get into the other corners that are returning for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, but this updates on the Emmy Award winning

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Speaker 1: Cardinals flight plan. The next episode, episode three, titled Winning Recipe,

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Speaker 1: Z Cardinals. All Right. Also back, in addition to Byron

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Speaker 1: Murphy at the cornerback position, Robert Alford, Jace Whittaker, and

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Speaker 1: Picasso Nelson. Now, Whittaker and Nelson were on the practice

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Speaker 1: squad for much of last season. Whittaker did see action

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Speaker 1: in four games. In fact, and I didn't realize this

498
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Speaker 1: at the time, but he played forty eight defensive snaps

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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins in Week nine so there is something

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Speaker 1: to be said about having a Jace Whittaker on the

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Speaker 1: team as far as some depth. I don't expect him

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Speaker 1: to play a lot, but if needed, he knows your system.

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Speaker 1: And he did stand out a couple of times in

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Speaker 1: practice during training camp and you were wondering, Okay, who's

505
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Speaker 1: this kid out of U of A And some players

506
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: recognize him as well Man's. Joseph Even was asked about

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Speaker 1: Jase Whittaker and then kind of had the not a

508
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: backhanded compliment, but it's you know, hey, this is practice.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens when the lights are turned on

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Speaker 1: and things start happening for real. But forty nine defensive

511
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: snaps and how valuable Jase Whittaker was. He was protected

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad twelve times. They did not want

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Speaker 1: to lose him to another team. Well, I think it

514
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: was also a case where they had injuries at that position,

515
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: been Jane between Jalen Thompson and Deontay Thompson, and you know,

516
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Speaker 1: you look at it from that standpoint, but you know

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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting because you know, the Cardinals

518
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: want to get more athletic, they want to get more physical,

519
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: and he's kind of undersized, but you know at times

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00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: they had him playing in some of their sub packages

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Speaker 1: in training camp. We didn't get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, but you know, you look at some

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Speaker 1: of the other guys. I mean, Marco Wilson, the guy

524
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: can play inside and outside, Tay Gallant. So when you

525
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Speaker 1: look at it, what's going to be as stiff as competition?

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Speaker 1: But on paper, if Murphy is your slot guy, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then you got Chase Whitaker, which has some experience,

528
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Speaker 1: and he didn't play on teams and he, as you

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Speaker 1: pointed out, protect it because I think it was more

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Speaker 1: about injuries. And then you got Marco Wilson there, and

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Speaker 1: I got to think, and I guess we'll do a

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Speaker 1: deeper dive when it comes to training camp. You know,

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Speaker 1: how many of these cornerbacks are going to make the roster?

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Speaker 1: I was I was trying to figure this over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: If they go seven linemen, eight linebackers, Niagara Falls Mass says,

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Speaker 1: that's fifteen, right, Yes, they could go ten defensive backs.

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00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Now they will all all dress, but that goes five

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Speaker 1: corners and five safeties. And you know, you've got to

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Speaker 1: be careful when you expose some of these guys to

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Speaker 1: the waiver wire. Again, how much do they play. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into the breaking the roster down as we get

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00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: to camp, but they do have depth at that position.

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Speaker 1: Now do they have enough depth on the outside if

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Speaker 1: something happens to Butler, all Ford or Denard. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Alford because he has been the most talked about

546
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: player amongst us here on Cardinals Covered two presented by

547
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Fans always ask

548
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: about Robert Alford. Well, we haven't seen Alford each of

549
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: the past two seasons because of injury, but he certainly

550
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: was the talk of OTAs and minicamp. Vanch Joseph quote.

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00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: If Alfred is healthy, he's a big part of this defense.

552
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker quote, Alford still looks like the great Robert Alford,

553
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: fresh Robert Alford. And then we heard from Alford himself.

554
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Speaker 1: We documented it. He was released resigned two days later. Quote.

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Speaker 1: I had to come back here. I had something to

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Speaker 1: prove I am the player that they thought I was

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Speaker 1: in quotes and he's referring to when he was resigned, Well,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, when he was signed as a free agent

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Speaker 1: after getting released by the Falcons in twenty nineteen. I

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Speaker 1: was one of the first moves of the off season.

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Speaker 1: It was sometime in January, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals had that answer, Patrick Peterson Robert Alford, and

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Speaker 1: the past two seasons we have not seen it. Now

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Speaker 1: we hope to. And it's hard not to root for

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Speaker 1: someone that puts in the work each and every offseason

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Speaker 1: and then sees his legs cut out from underneath them,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And that's exactly what has happened to Alford,

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Speaker 1: because I've maintained he was the best cornerback on the

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Speaker 1: team in training camp before his injury. And you hope

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Speaker 1: that this year in twenty twenty one, the Cardinals finally

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Speaker 1: get to see Robert Alfred on the football field. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was released and the Cardinals were able to sign

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Speaker 1: him because he was an unrestricted free agent versus his

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Speaker 1: contract would expire and then you got to wait for

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Speaker 1: free agency to start, So they allowed him to go

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Speaker 1: out there and test the waters. Now, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Alford, it's one of those situations where, yes, the

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Speaker 1: team had to release him because he wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: play it. They weren't going to pay him at that

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Speaker 1: and he said, listen, whatever you need, I'll be back

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Speaker 1: because he wants to prove that he you know, they

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Speaker 1: made a good sign. Unfortunately, injuries are part of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like I don't want to talk about him

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Speaker 1: because not that I'm jinx the guy, but we need

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Speaker 1: to we need to mention it because when you hear

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Speaker 1: a Buddha Baker say he still looks like the great

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Speaker 1: Robert Alfer fresh offer and then he you know the

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Speaker 1: fact that he had to come back and he felt

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Speaker 1: like he didn't have to prove it. When Buddha Baker

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Speaker 1: says that he's there in the meetings with him, he's

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Speaker 1: on the practice field, and that tells me that Buddha

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Speaker 1: Baker had the same eyes that we did in training

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Speaker 1: camp two years ago where he was the best corner. Well,

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Speaker 1: this we can say with certainty. During notts in minicamp,

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Speaker 1: the portion of practice that we are allowed to watch

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Speaker 1: and report on, I saw nothing to say that Robert

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Speaker 1: Alford was showing any lingering effects either from the leg

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Speaker 1: injury two years ago of the torn peck last season.

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Speaker 1: He's moving around very fluid, still talking a big game.

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Speaker 1: That's just part of his style. That's who he is,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited and much like everyone else, it's when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Robert Alford, you don't want to go

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Speaker 1: too far because he's not that he's disappointed you, but

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Speaker 1: you're disappointed for him that he hasn't been able to

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Speaker 1: be on the field, and you don't want to get

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00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: too excited. You just want to kind of hit that

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00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: fast forward button to week one and see him against

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Speaker 1: maybe Julio Jones again the Tennessee Titans or in a J. Brown.

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Speaker 1: You want to see him on the field. You want

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Speaker 1: to see that success story two years out of the

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Speaker 1: game because of injury and then come back and be

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Speaker 1: that guy. He has something to prove to himself, not

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Speaker 1: to anyone else. I just think he has something to

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Speaker 1: prove to himself because he did get questions about you know,

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Speaker 1: did you ever consider walking away and calling it a

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Speaker 1: career and he dismissed that completely. He's like, no, I

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Speaker 1: was not going to go out like that. So there

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00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: was a reason the Cardinals signed him back in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why they brought him back ahead of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Now we just need to be able

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Speaker 1: to see it with our own eyes. And we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this, and so if you listen to the show him.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be redundant, but when guys going

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Speaker 1: on ere, you know a lot of times are coming

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Speaker 1: in for treatment and based on the injury, if you're

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Speaker 1: in a walking boot or it's more severe, they're not

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: going to come on the practice field. He would get

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Speaker 1: treatment in the morning, he would be on the practice field,

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Speaker 1: he would be in meeting. So he was there the

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Speaker 1: entire time. And I get in the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: played in the league, he played in the Super Bowl.

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00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: He extrays out there he can help young guys and

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00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: he did everything in his power to be around the team,

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Speaker 1: and that speaks volumes of the person. Robert Alford. Well,

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Speaker 1: here is cornerbacks coach Greg Williams on the Big Red

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Speaker 1: Rage this offseason, asked about Robert Alford and Williams went

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Speaker 1: to tenacity level. This guy is energy in a bottle

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00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: and quotes kind of like what we hear from Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 1: Players feed off that energy and you lose it and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you lose a little bit

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Speaker 1: of your identity. The Cardinals don't know what they have.

642
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: And Alford because as again, yeah, he hasn't shown it yet,

643
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: but I'm excited what a healthy Robert Alford could mean

644
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: to this cornerbacks, this secondary, in this defense overall. So

645
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: he is back with a huge spotlight on him. The

646
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: newcomers in that cornerbacks room Malcolm Butler, dark Was Denard,

647
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, Tay Gowan, Lorenzo Burns, and Tay Hayes. Burns

648
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: and Hays Burns an undrafted rookie free agent out of

649
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: you of A and Hayes was signed following rookie mini camp.

650
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: He participated on a tryout Basis does have some experience

651
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: six games with the past two seasons. But there was

652
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: a reason why dark Was Denard was signed because he

653
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: is a seven year veteran, eighty five games worth of experience,

654
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: thirty starts, and someone that is familiar with coach Bands Joseph.

655
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Joseph was Denard's position coach with the Bengals in twenty

656
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty fifteen. But I think all eyes really

657
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: amj are on Butler and then the draft picks Wilson

658
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: and Gowan. Let's go one by one and Butler We've

659
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: talked a lot about him. I thought it was a

660
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: steal considering how much cornerback was discussed. And then all

661
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden week at the news, Malcolm Butler is signed,

662
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: and he only he signed for one year, and I

663
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: think it was what six million dollars plus incentives, which

664
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a lot compared to the top corners

665
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: on the market. And it was just one of those

666
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: things that it just lined up right for the Cardinals.

667
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: The Titans needed to make a move to get under

668
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: the salary captain. They had to say goodbye to Malcolm Butler,

669
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: which I don't think they wanted to, but they were

670
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: forced to. And Butler comes in and signs with the

671
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and yes, he will wear twenty one, which

672
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: is the one number he wore with the Patriots and Titans.

673
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: So you will see twenty one on the field this season,

674
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: once again playing defense. And you know, I'm glad that

675
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to wear that jersey. I'm sure there's

676
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot of respect between Patrick Peterson and Malcolm Butler.

677
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Patrick moved on, he's changed his number. You know, to me,

678
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: this was a great signing at the time, and you know,

679
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: you look back and you know eighty four starts in

680
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: his career. He's played in all sixteen games, as you

681
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: pointed out, in the five of the past six seasons,

682
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: and we know that last year he had a hunter tackle.

683
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the ideal situation because

684
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: he did have four interceptions. So I'll take the four interceptions,

685
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: especially if he's your number one or two corner. He

686
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: brings a lot of leadership here. He's played a lot

687
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: of big games, so again, I think he's kind of

688
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: hitting that reset button on his career. You know, if

689
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: the fact that the Cardinals money talks and fit. But

690
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: when these guys we interview them, you can see that

691
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: they think that's team's on the rise. And I think

692
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: it all starts with Kyla Murray knowing that they can

693
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: score points. And then you have a Chandler Jones, and

694
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: then you have a DeAndre Hopkins and AJ Green comes

695
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: in and now all of a sudden, you got, you know,

696
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: two really good inside linebackers. They got to prove it

697
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: on the field, though, So I think I think there's

698
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: an excitement to where a lot of these guys feel like,

699
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, I've been around good teams, but you need

700
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: good players, and the Cardinals have good players. Now it's

701
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: about coming together, building that foundation and the groundwork going

702
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: into the season. But I think he's going to be

703
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: a good addition in the locker room too. I'm sure

704
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Butler had other options other teams calling, but to hear

705
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: Butler describe why he chose the Cardinals quota was an

706
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: easy decision. I just felt like it was a perfect fit.

707
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: End quote. Obviously, MJ. There was a need at that position.

708
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: Whether he's starting and or playing a lot of snaps,

709
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna see Malcolm Butler on the field a lot.

710
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: And then you add to it the obvious storyline in

711
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Week one at Tennessee his former team, so you know

712
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be fired up. And I like what

713
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: you said about his numbers and the hundred plus tackles.

714
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: It does speak to what was asked of him in

715
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: that Titans defense. Same thing can be said about Buddha Baker.

716
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: You don't want your secondary to have a lot of

717
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: tackles because that means while the ball carrier is getting

718
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: into your secondary, you much rather have the second line,

719
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: even better, the first line of defense rack up the

720
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: tackles not a Buddha Baker in the backfield, unless, of course,

721
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: it's a safety like Baker who is playing closer to

722
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But yeah, the hundred tackles, I'll

723
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: be fine with half that mini, but with the four

724
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: or five six interceptions or passes defense correct and that's

725
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: where he's And again, press coverage, he's got great size.

726
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: He will he will fight you at the line of scrimmage,

727
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: will be physical. And then the run support, he'll be

728
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: able to release off the receiver and come in for

729
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: run support. And again, I know Patrick, you know, a

730
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: lot of the notion was that he didn't like to tackle.

731
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: I get it when you're a finesse player. I don't

732
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: think Dion Sanders didn't like to tackle. But this is

733
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: a different player. And again he's going to bring her

734
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: a lot of experience in leadership and hopefully, you know,

735
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: some of these young guys can learn from him. But

736
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I think it all starts with, you know, Buddha Baker

737
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: being more vocal in that secondary. And I have no

738
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: problem with Buddha Baker. If he's going to get tense

739
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: tackles the game he plays all over. It wasn't a recently.

740
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: He has over four hundred tackles in the last four years.

741
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: It sounds about it, right, and number one in football.

742
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: So from that position, it's a little bit different. He's

743
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: covering one side of the field, you know what I mean,

744
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: Like he's covering a wide receiver. But it also tells

745
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: you he was come up and run support in getting tackles.

746
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: I'd love to know, and this would be a really,

747
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: really deep deep dive. But when you list ten tackles,

748
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: twelve tackles in a game and at the end of

749
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: the season, all right, tell me where those tackles are

750
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: happening on the football field. Are they within the first

751
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: three to five yards of the line of scrimmage or

752
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: are they ten to fifteen yards beyond the line of scrimmage?

753
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Because I think that would speak more to all right,

754
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: the Titans defense needed Malcolm Butler to make those tackles

755
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: because it was a defense that was leaking a lot

756
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: of the times. Buddha Baker maybe not so much. Maybe

757
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: most of his tackles are coming within five to seven

758
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage versus tackling deep after

759
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: a long game, whether it's a run or a pass.

760
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: But Yeah, that's that's going through every single play and

761
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: then figuring out, all right, where is Buddha Baker when

762
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: he makes the tackle and my guesses and don't hold

763
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: me to it, bar gag. But I would guess that

764
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: it is more likely than knots that I wouldn't say half,

765
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: but maybe close to half of his tackles talking about

766
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker are in that five to seven range, five

767
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: to seven yards of the line of scrimmage. Well, I

768
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: think there's a reason why the Cardinals drafted Zamon Collins.

769
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we all liked Jordan Hicks. I thought he

770
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: was a good addition. I think he provided great depth

771
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: if something happens to Collins or Simmons in this case,

772
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: even though they're kind of playing two different positions. But

773
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: let's be honest. I mean, you can't just blame the

774
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: inside linebackers if you're not getting push up front, and

775
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: we know the Cardinals have had trouble with certain running

776
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: backs around the league. Well, he's got to make the tackle.

777
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: So Jordan Hicks was a guy making tackles three to

778
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: five yards down the line of scrimmage, and at the

779
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: end of the year he had a thousand snaps and

780
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: he had over one hundred tackles. So to me, if

781
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: you're within two yards of the ball carry or the

782
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: receiver and you hit him, they can't control if it's

783
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: a ten yard pass. The thing is you don't want

784
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: yards after catch, so it all starts up front, and

785
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: I believe on paper they should be better at front,

786
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: where Collins and Simmons and maybe some of these outside linebackers,

787
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: including Buddha, will make tackles by the close to the

788
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, which then one to three yards. I'm

789
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: sure there's a stat from one to three yards, four

790
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: to six or seven and then seven to ten. Again,

791
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: if you're two yards next to the ball carrier or

792
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the receiver, it's your job to make that tackle. It's

793
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: another good distinction the ball carriers in front of you

794
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: after catching a pass. You weren't in coverage, but there

795
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: he is, and okay, you're wrapping him up within a

796
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: yard or two. He's not breaking your tackle. There's another

797
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: way to kind of measure just how effective of a

798
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: tackler you are, not just based off Hey, I've got

799
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: a hundred tackles for four straight seasons. Just how effective

800
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: are those tackles. How meaningful are those tackles? All right?

801
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: The last point here on the cornerbacks are the two rookies.

802
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, the fourth round draft pick out of Florida Cardinals.

803
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Remember moved up in the draft and a trade with

804
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens to make the selection of Wilson and then

805
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: take Gwen sixth round draft pick out of Central Florida. Certainly, Wilson,

806
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: based off the fact that he was a fourth round

807
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: pick they moved up in the draft. He has the

808
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: experience coming out of SEC, certainly seems to have more

809
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: of the upside a sape meaning maybe more of an

810
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: impact this season. He is another one of those guys

811
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: that can play both outside and in the slot. Cornet

812
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Vans Joseph Wilson quote has been a really, really nice surprise.

813
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of scheme end quote talking about

814
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: the games against opponents in the SEC. He started as

815
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: a true freshman. He's got a lot of experience. Now.

816
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: The question is, and this goes for the entire rookie class.

817
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: All Right, your talent is one thing, but how do

818
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: you know the playbook and how do you transition from

819
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: the classroom out onto the football field. I like both

820
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: of her sides. You look at Marco Wilson, he wears

821
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: number twenties five eleven, one eighty seven. And look at

822
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: Tay Gowan, he's wearing number thirty two. You know a

823
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: lot of history there at that position. He's six two

824
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: eighty five. But they're both athletic. But playing in the

825
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: s SEC, you're going against. You know, this probably the

826
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: toughest competition. I don't know about the quarterbacks in the conference,

827
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: but when it comes to wide receivers and running backs

828
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: and dbs, that is the best conference. And that's the

829
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: reason why the SEC dominates the first three rounds. So

830
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, but I want to see

831
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: more in camp because they're intrigued with both of these guys,

832
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: and that's why I mentioned earlier. You know, you can

833
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: sit here and say, well, they're only gonna keep four corners.

834
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I think Denard's a wildcard. He's gonna if he wins

835
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: that fourth spot, who gets that fifth spot? And then

836
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: you try to slide one in the practice squad. But

837
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: I want to see these guys play. And it's always

838
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: great to have a position flexibility, and you can do this.

839
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: You can play inside and outside, but at some point

840
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: you got a key on what your natural position is.

841
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: And if he's an outside guy because of that speed

842
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: and his athleticism and his forty is a vertical I mean,

843
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: he's intriguing guy. But again, those are all measurables. And

844
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: one thing we got to learn about these guys. They

845
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't They weren't as healthy as you like coming out.

846
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: But you're not drafting them what they did in the past.

847
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: You're draft which you think they can do in the future.

848
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Wilson at his pro day ran a four three seven

849
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: forty and then out jumped the VerTech. It goes as

850
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: high as forty three and a half inches and he

851
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: jumped above that. So yes, the athleticism is there. Gwen

852
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: ran a four four seven forty at his pro day

853
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Speaker 1: and the wrinkle would Tay Gowan is because he opted

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Speaker 1: out last season. He hasn't been a lot or hasn't

855
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of action, so that might have been

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Speaker 1: why he lasted all the way to the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: He still has I think the best quotes of draft

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Speaker 1: weekend quote. I feel I'll be the Tom Brady of

859
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Speaker 1: corners end quote. And then he's given thirty two which

860
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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker war, which Tyrn Matthew wore. And he is

861
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Speaker 1: very vocal on social media, is very confident in himself,

862
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: very comfortable in his skill sets. So now again it's

863
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Speaker 1: all right, you were drafted because of your athleticism, but

864
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Speaker 1: you don't be successful in the NFL based off of athleticism.

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Speaker 1: There's more to it than in fairness to him, it

866
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Speaker 1: was because of COVID correct, and he opted out because

867
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Speaker 1: of his family. He got COVID nineteen and he had

868
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Speaker 1: a young daughter. So I applaud him for the tough

869
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Speaker 1: decision that he had to made. And it might have

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Speaker 1: cost I don't think it might have. It did cost

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Speaker 1: him to hear his name called Day three in all

872
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Speaker 1: the way into the sixth round. But you know, again

873
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Speaker 1: that's behind him. Now what do you do moving forward? Exactly?

874
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Speaker 1: Because I mean guys had to make decisions based on

875
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Speaker 1: their family and if he got an infant and he

876
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: got your grandmother around, etc. I'm not going to bring

877
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: grudge a guy. It's just difficult to evaluate because you

878
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: like to see three years of film. But the Cardinals

879
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: have scouted this guy over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: They have intel and so that's the reason why they

881
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Speaker 1: picked him. But again they didn't take him in the

882
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Speaker 1: fourth round. They took him in the sixth round. Early

883
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Speaker 1: impressions Wilson and Gowan by Greg Williams, the Cornerbacks coach

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Speaker 1: on The Big Red Rage this offseason about Gwen. We

885
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Speaker 1: talked about how much, how vocal he is on social media,

886
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: how confident he is quotes. This is Williams now quote.

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Speaker 1: It's not just talk. He has what it takes to

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Speaker 1: actually walk the walk. End quote. Now that's again small

889
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: sample size, rookie mini caamp, OTA's mini caamp they're not

890
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: going full speed. What happens when you do go full speed?

891
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Speaker 1: Come training camp. Here's what coach Williams had to say

892
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Speaker 1: about Wilson. It's just a matter of getting consistent, because

893
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Speaker 1: according to Williams, Wilson was one of the top rated

894
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Speaker 1: corners on their board. But it's flashes, and we've seen

895
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: several players over the years that flash, and it's that's

896
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: great eye candy. But hey show up every single week,

897
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: every single Sunday. That proves to us that you can

898
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Speaker 1: have not just a one two year career, but a

899
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Speaker 1: lengthy career in the National Football League. Yeah, and to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's why I'm thrilled that they had offseason

901
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: workouts and the rookies got their own little rookie mini caamp,

902
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Speaker 1: then the OTA's and then you know, they came to

903
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Speaker 1: an agreement with the coaching staff and the players when

904
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Speaker 1: when it came to the mandatory mini camp. But now

905
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Speaker 1: they're going to get a full training camp and we

906
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: know you can't hit as much, but they're going to

907
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: get three preseason game. That's gonna go a long way

908
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: because we know from college to pro football, what's the

909
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: biggest thing that they talk about speed and it is

910
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Speaker 1: how physical and how these guys two hundred and sixty

911
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: pounds can run you down on an angle. We see

912
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: that with Kyler Murray. And so you go from practice

913
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Speaker 1: now to the preseason and you're going to see different speed.

914
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Speaker 1: And then you go from the preseason to the regular

915
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Speaker 1: season and it's even faster. So you hope that they're

916
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Speaker 1: in their playbook. You hope that you know, they get

917
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: picked on a little bit in camp. You know, I

918
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Speaker 1: want to see Kyler Murray target. I mean, I challenge

919
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Speaker 1: these guys because the next time they play is going

920
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: to be in a real game. But the fact is

921
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Speaker 1: they had the entire offseason. I think they'll be further

922
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Speaker 1: ahead of the curve than a lot of the rookie

923
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Speaker 1: class last year. And let's be on a several a

924
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Speaker 1: lot of rookies that played very well, and I think

925
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: a lot of has to do with disc I mean, like,

926
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Speaker 1: you know, you look at some of the guys like

927
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Speaker 1: Chase Young, I mean he's rushing the quarterback. You look

928
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Speaker 1: at some of these, give Justin Jefferson a lot of credit.

929
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Speaker 1: I mean, he put up unbelievable numbers, similarly an Crumbolton.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm not saying every rookie didn't,

931
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Speaker 1: but we watched Isaiah Simmons slow play, slow play, and

932
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Speaker 1: then he got a chance to play. He's going to

933
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: be a different player this year. So these guys not

934
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Speaker 1: that they are lucky. I'm just glad it worked out

935
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: because the learning curve is not going to be as

936
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Speaker 1: steep going into the season. If you're in your playbook

937
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Speaker 1: and you stay to your assignment and you don't make

938
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Speaker 1: mental aires, some is better than none. And this rookie

939
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: class got some offseason work compared to the year prior,

940
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Speaker 1: and they got none and that certainly showed a lot

941
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Speaker 1: on film. In twenty twenty, Cardinal fans again, season and

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Speaker 1: All right, so we look at the five or six

949
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks Deniard signed in June. As we always talk about teams,

950
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: take a look at you know, their OTAs and in

951
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: their mandatory mini camp and they say, we got we

952
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: gotta fill this hole. And clearly the Cardinals feel comfortable

953
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: taking two corners. They got Butler, Robert Olford, Byron Murphy.

954
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Speaker 1: You think denis a wildcard for that fourth cornerback spot

955
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: just based on experience in his relationship with Vans, Joseph,

956
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: I do he you needed in some more veteran experience.

957
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Speaker 1: Not so much the veteran that's so much that he

958
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: played seven years, just the experience, the eighty plus games

959
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: of experience, starting experience. That's what was lacking in that

960
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Speaker 1: room because yeah, you have Byron Murphy, you have Malcolm Butler,

961
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: but you just need a little bit more considering what

962
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: this game is now about. It's about the passing game.

963
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Speaker 1: Everyone is throwing the football, so you need guys that

964
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Speaker 1: can cover. And that doesn't go just for the cornerbacks,

965
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Speaker 1: but some linebackers as well, some safeties that may be

966
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Speaker 1: asked to be a play up closer to the line

967
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage. So I'm a lot more comfortable about the

968
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Speaker 1: cornerback position now than I was in January, in February,

969
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Speaker 1: in March and April. But that's what the offseason is about.

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Speaker 1: It's about improving. It doesn't happen overnights. You can't just

971
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Speaker 1: wake up and say, hey, we're ready to play. It's

972
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Speaker 1: a process. And we know the Cardinals, I mean, you know,

973
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Speaker 1: you look at the depth chart, and you know if

974
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Speaker 1: they feel like they got to add another corner, it

975
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me. And I think you got

976
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Speaker 1: to let it play out and could come. Now, there's

977
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Speaker 1: two cutdowns this year, correct, correct, So usually the first

978
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Speaker 1: cutdown could be veteran guys, allow them to get latch on,

979
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Speaker 1: and then you get to the final cutdown, and they'll

980
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Speaker 1: have their scouts at preseason games where you couldn't do

981
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Speaker 1: that last year, and that means, you know, no scouts

982
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Speaker 1: can come to our practice, etc. So that again whoever

983
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Speaker 1: the last guy is. But you also want to develop

984
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: these rookies, but you know you're going against Ryan Tannehill,

985
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. The first couple of weeks I can get

986
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Speaker 1: say if you can give it a list, So it'll

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00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: be interesting to see. But they'll definitely try to show

988
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: our positions that maybe they think they're good at now.

989
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: But as Steve always tells us, your needs in March,

990
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: April and may are a lot different than in September October,

991
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Speaker 1: and I think they want to be prepared for that.

992
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: And that's why when we start talking about the sixteen

993
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: member practice squad, we're going to see where they're going

994
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: to load up at position so they don't have to

995
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Speaker 1: go out and try to get a street free agent,

996
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Speaker 1: get a guy that's spending your system, whether it's a

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Speaker 1: year or two. A lot of this conversation can be

998
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Speaker 1: had with our next position by position breakdown, the players

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Speaker 1: that cornerbacks are asked to cover. That's ahead later on

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