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Speaker 1: Well, hello everyone. My name is Luke Thomas. This is

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This is our sex scene.

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Speaker 2: We said we would never do this again, at least

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Speaker 2: not on camera, not that part.

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Speaker 1: Hi. This is old school room service diaries where we

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Speaker 1: tread a line.

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Speaker 2: Between unemployment, unemployment and dick jokes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, ye, and I don't know how good they're going

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: Not great, not great because we're a little rusty. But

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Speaker 2: we're on the road and here in Jersey City, New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: which is, to be fair, a shithole, but it is

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Speaker 2: our shithole. And even though you don't have the view

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Speaker 2: to prove it, the Manhattan skyline is like right there,

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Speaker 2: it's actually pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: It is the Manhattan Skyline from here. At one time

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Speaker 1: got up at like right when the sun was just

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Speaker 1: blocked by the skyscrapers on South Manhattan. I took a picture.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite pictures. This is the This

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Speaker 1: is the forty three year old person's story, which is

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Speaker 1: utterly worthless and I should be euthanized for telling a

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Speaker 1: story so stupid, but it is true. It was beautiful

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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was going was somebody getting third worlded,

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Speaker 2: but it was very very wholesome. And then hey, you're

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Speaker 2: my wife got me these socks a while ago. What

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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on them?

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Speaker 3: Fright or died?

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Speaker 2: Chewbacca bro, bro check it out closer. Tupaca. Chewbacca with

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Speaker 2: the Tupaca you know, Kevin Nash.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, no, it's not it's.

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Speaker 2: Cheupacca.

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Speaker 1: That's Chewbacca, who's just dropping the N word at Target

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Speaker 1: at parties.

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Speaker 2: Yo, Chewbacca was right? Stop? Okay, Chewbacca was right or die?

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Speaker 2: This is mixing it with another American hero.

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Speaker 1: No, this guy, this guy is this guy is telling

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Speaker 1: inappropriate in the workplace.

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Speaker 2: Chewbacca's more Kashik American to be fair.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, what was the last time, like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking something debatable, I'm talking like clearly over the line.

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Speaker 1: What was the last time someone did something like wildly racist? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You didn't hear that announcer Glenn Kuiper on the MLB broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, when he was talking about the Negro League. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't use that. I was like, dude, those

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Speaker 1: those are kind of Freudian slips. You're like, man, you're not.

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Speaker 2: Just you better just pack your ship up.

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Speaker 1: You're done at that point, get your staples.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's curtains for you, buddy. We are though

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Speaker 2: here this weekend for some showtime boxing undercards. But I

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Speaker 2: gotta say Fridays in studio show as we record this,

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Speaker 2: this is Friday evening. I don't know when this is

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Speaker 2: going live.

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Speaker 1: When is this going live Sunday Monday. There's a chance

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Speaker 1: it never does.

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Speaker 2: We though today we had Deuces Wild, the Hot Wing Challenge,

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Speaker 2: and we did reverse Wheel of Death and Ray fucking

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Speaker 2: long Ago got on the RSD two point.

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Speaker 3: Ray brought the thunder.

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Speaker 2: He's like, hold on, I got a story about Matt

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Speaker 2: Sarah pulling a guy's eyeball out. Basically, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: He pulled the big John Fury.

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Speaker 2: Right almost Yeah, yeah, he pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Basically, dude, Ray Longo is a treasure of a human being,

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Speaker 1: a treasure, and he told some cool stories. He's old

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Speaker 1: school of shit. Did you get He's like in the

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Speaker 1: sixties now, d those those are exactly the dudes who

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Speaker 1: you got to get their opinion from because they don't

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Speaker 2: About your That's what I was trying to tell him,

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Speaker 2: And I don't think I accurately did that, but I

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Speaker 2: was trying to tell him that, like, you're this nice

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Speaker 2: guy who doesn't give a fuck at all, and you're

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Speaker 2: going to war with anybody in this game at any point.

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Speaker 1: I like that about him. Yeah, he's the best, dude.

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Speaker 1: And then uh watched some bellator.

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Speaker 2: We had this ten wing challenge today?

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Speaker 3: How much did it mess you up?

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Speaker 2: So I ended up with eating three of the ten.

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Speaker 2: You had seven, and I was messed up for a

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Speaker 2: good half hour to an hour afterwards. Lips were numb,

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Speaker 2: whole face was kind of ringing still and pulsating. But dude,

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Speaker 2: you had seven in a row. But you were You

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Speaker 2: were definitely like mcgreg at the end of the second

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Speaker 2: Poorer fight at some points, right, you were just like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I never surrendered, but here's I leaned into the hip.

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Speaker 2: And here's the part that I that I respected. As

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Speaker 2: soon as the challenge was over, like five minutes later,

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Speaker 1: To normal, quick, quick recovery.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with your body that you were able

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Speaker 2: to do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I told you

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Speaker 1: I eat a lot of spicy food, like It's not

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Speaker 1: like that was hot. Don't get me wrong. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say that wasn't hot. That shit was hot as balls.

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Speaker 1: But I've definitely had worse. I've definitely had worse than that,

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Speaker 1: all Right.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed the stress that that brought.

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Speaker 1: During that, I enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: You know, it didn't give me the shits.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Here's here's how bad it was not. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: only mad I didn't get them right. Just to stick

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Speaker 1: it to you. I wasn't upset that I had to

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Speaker 1: eat the wing. I was only upset that I couldn't

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Speaker 2: I was willing to eat all ten.

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Speaker 1: If I had to, it would have been hurt. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that would have been impossible to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, Hey, you want to talk about Twitter

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Speaker 1: in what regard? Do you like musk? Yeah? Do you

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Speaker 1: let me? It was almost like a cult personality around it.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't had chance to talk to people about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm strictly speaking as a user experience.

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Speaker 2: But I don't pay the eight dollars for the star.

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Speaker 1: Like fair enough, fair enough? I know I did it

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Speaker 1: before he got all crazy for that. Here's the only

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Speaker 1: reason why I got it. I think it does give

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Speaker 1: you priority in comments, but whatever. The one reason I

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Speaker 1: got is because if you don't have it, you can

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Speaker 1: only upload videos two minutes and twenty seconds long. And

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Speaker 1: I didn't like that restriction. I wanted to get around it.

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Speaker 1: So I've been paying for Twitter Blue for some time.

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Speaker 2: Like full adult films, I wanted.

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Speaker 1: To be able to put Did you see that someone

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Speaker 1: put like Mario Brothers on Twitter? And it was up

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Speaker 1: insane amount of views before Twitter took it down. People.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I was gonna say, Man, I'm judging purely

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Speaker 1: on user experience. There's some things, and I definitely don't mind.

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Speaker 1: There have been various like I don't like for you feed,

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Speaker 1: but it's very much like taken from TikTok and uh

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Speaker 1: think TikTok is on something. Obviously the Twitter medium is different,

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Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, man's your user experience better

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Speaker 2: Mine's gotten worse since Elon's taken over, To be fair,

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Speaker 2: and I don't care about the check mark. But so

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Speaker 2: that's not part of my analysis. But no, it's been

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Speaker 2: it's not been great. But I'm a little nervous about

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Speaker 2: the larger TikTok takeover on social media. And I don't

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Speaker 2: mean that from a Chinese American political standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Luke, I thought, you're being racist again, man.

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Speaker 2: More like you know already you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We're like this as we fall asleep to bed first

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Speaker 2: when we wake up, we're like this in our bed.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, there's dirt holes. And I know

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Speaker 2: there's probably some MK listeners out there that are this

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Speaker 2: first cigarette under the sheets, right, So I'm just absolutely

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Speaker 2: do you vape before you even get out of bed sometimes,

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Speaker 2: like that's where you know your life is in the.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just giving up.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, honey, I'll come up with those pancakes. Let

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Speaker 2: me just let me just get that water.

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Speaker 1: I've never thought of it. You're right if you can't

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Speaker 1: he really quit.

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Speaker 2: I forgot what I was teeing that up. Oh, I'll

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Speaker 2: get it. So the addiction level, as you already know,

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Speaker 2: first as an adult in this era, we were the

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Speaker 2: last generation to like become a man without the Internet,

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Speaker 2: and then the Internet came full on top of us. Right,

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Speaker 2: pour some sugar us in the name of love. Right.

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Speaker 2: So my point is it's already at crack addiction this

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Speaker 2: And now you're like, bro, I'm killing it on TikTok

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Speaker 2: where it's where it's like, I gotta at forty four, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be forty five this summer. Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 2: draw a line and say some of this shit is

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Speaker 2: not only not for me, but I don't think it

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Speaker 2: rot wiring?

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think that's fair. I would say

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Speaker 1: it's too late. What they're trying to do is all

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Speaker 1: that thing as long as possible, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't want Twitter to become like anything else.

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Speaker 1: I like Twitter, dude, But the ability to go viral

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Speaker 1: on TikTok, I cannot overstate this. Their algorithm really sets

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Speaker 1: you up for success. Like I've gotten a video or

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Speaker 1: the one I did for Izzy on his win the

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Speaker 1: Win over at UFC two eighty seven. There are things

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Speaker 1: that like six point one million fucking views, man, Like, how.

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Speaker 2: Are they not taking you down for violating copyright.

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Speaker 1: Because they have a fairly lax policy regarding that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. It's it's dude, TikTok is remix, culture remix,

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Speaker 1: that's all. It's every if you the more you spend

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Speaker 1: time on there, everything is intertwined with itself, and some

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Speaker 2: But okay, I want to ask you about technology as

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Speaker 2: a whole, Luke, because I say I don't really I

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Speaker 2: mostly use it for I don't really read too often, Luke.

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Speaker 2: When I do read, it's on technology. But I set

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Speaker 2: you that link to that Guardian story where the guy

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Speaker 2: who kind of created the whole AI bust out boom

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Speaker 2: for Google is now saying, hold on, guys, I want

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Speaker 2: to be out of this because this is too powerful. Basically,

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Speaker 2: the new AI is gonna you know, start though, is

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Speaker 2: going to bring on the matrix and then eventually it

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Speaker 2: will lead to the biggest world war, which would be

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Speaker 2: us against the robots. Do you have an intergalactic future?

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Speaker 2: You know, romanticism for future inter galactic wars when we

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Speaker 2: take on the computers that were allowing war and.

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Speaker 1: The machines on Benedict Donald Mofuer.

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Speaker 2: Be like, you know what, machines never hurt me. It's

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Speaker 2: people that I'm okay, but in all seriousness and I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not being super crazy conspiracy weird. But here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: AI can already do your homework. It can already produce

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, dude, dude, jumoka. So look, you're not

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Speaker 2: It's it's definitely a dirt hole move. But but my

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Speaker 1: Great, you've jacked off our fans.

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Speaker 2: That is aggressively dishonest.

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Speaker 1: You've brought them to sexual climax and really maybe emotional

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Speaker 1: I was like, holy fucking shitee. I still can't get

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Speaker 2: We got this thing we call Monday Night Raw get

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Speaker 1: How many involved the inn None of that.

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Speaker 2: None of them at all. I forgot what my setup? Well,

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Speaker 1: Luke? But oh who hurt me?

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Speaker 2: But uh no, I don't, I don't. I guess I forgot.

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Speaker 1: We got some dirt. We got some dignity dirt bags.

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Speaker 2: And you should see that. Have you seen the ship

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Speaker 1: These people still send me stuff to say give this

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Speaker 1: be like Yo, tell Luke to unblock me. That one

437
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 1: is a regular. But don't do that ship where it's like,

438
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 1: you'll give this to BC. No, you give it to BC. Yeah,

439
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 1: he's looking for the attention.

440
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we're not lusking.

441
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,439
Speaker 1: Why was there another video with Chef Kaz in a car?

442
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 2: No, Chef cas dm me a picture of him driving

443
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: with those big.

444
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Talking about the guys he squeezes. It's like looks like

445
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: he's got these fucking like headlights attached to his body.

446
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain it. And he's

447
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 1: shirtless and like some kind of I don't know, jeep

448
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck and he's what was he talking about?

449
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 1: Some ship?

450
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yow yo, shout out to Chef Caz.

451
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: That's my guy, dude. He yo. He's a world class

452
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: nutritionist and fighting chef, and he's a capa wearing master.

453
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 1: Is he yeps hard as ship?

454
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 2: But he's a new father all right?

455
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah man, copa wear as hard as fuck, bro'.

456
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Only anyone tell you all that's fight dancing, right, Yeah, dude,

457
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: that's just like the ones who are good at it.

458
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: That ship is circusle a acrobatic man. It's pretty incredible.

459
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: So I'm very skeptical.

460
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had a whole line of questioning.

461
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: I was opening up a door too, and then I

462
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: just fell apart.

463
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Have you watched anything interesting?

464
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 2: Are you talking?

465
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: What are you?

466
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 2: What category are you talking about?

467
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 3: Netflix? HBO Max.

468
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: So I watched the show with my wife called A

469
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: Million Little Things, and they had their their their their

470
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 2: final finale right after five seasons to wrap it up,

471
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 2: and dude, I didn't I wasn't paying attention to what

472
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: the final episode might be. But it was like this

473
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: dude like dying of cancer in front of like his friends,

474
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 2: and Yo, that ship had ripped me apart, just crying

475
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: like a bit, yo, like I could. I just was

476
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: like just I don't even almost want to turn it off. Yeah,

477
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean I got level. It was like a body punch.

478
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: It was like Javonte to Ryan Garcia and I was

479
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: just like, nah, it's fine, dude. Have you been like

480
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: leveled like that?

481
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: No, not like what like that?

482
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: But I can't watch sad things with kids? Oh my god, all.

483
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't watch I had to stop watching hospital

484
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: shows because flashbacks to being in there with my kids

485
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: when they were young.

486
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: I'm so good that like, yeah, no, thank you. Like

487
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: that ship has definitely softened me. I can't do that

488
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: at all.

489
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: That's PTSD. Yeah, I don't think I've seen anything awesome

490
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 2: in a while, because you know, I watched different things.

491
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 2: I watch a lot of nineties NBA with the volume

492
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 2: down while I'm listening to seventies music Luke on vital

493
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: that's you know, in my office of the basement, that's

494
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: that's like king in the castle ship right there, that's

495
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: my that's my life, okay, and it's now or never.

496
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: That's your happy place.

497
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to live forever, you know what I mean?

498
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: What is to do all any married guy ever wants

499
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: to be left alone? Well, the way I would explain

500
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: it was as follows. They want to be able to

501
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: watch pornography with the volumes stop with the volume on.

502
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: That's the kicker with the volume on.

503
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: How do you know that part of your your tight

504
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: ten you're putting together hair?

505
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: What you know? It's a bit a business, gits and

506
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 1: bit do you have a How how private is your

507
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: setup I set up? I could do a little office

508
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: and ship down there that you fucking what.

509
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: Are you asking me?

510
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: Like?

511
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: This goes yes and no. I have I put to

512
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: proof things all over the wall, all of the ceiling

513
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: because my kids room is above me, and back during

514
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: the pandemic, MK gets really loud in the tiny house.

515
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

516
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: So I got one of those, you know, one of

517
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: those giant, heavy moving blankets that you get in like

518
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: if you run a U haul truck. I got one

519
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 2: of those covering my door.

520
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I had the worst motherfucking experience Adam.

521
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: Okay, you kind of said it, but at.

522
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: A moving company recently, Dude, I was just like, what

523
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: in the motherfuck is this? I had a reservation time

524
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: for eleven am. I was so pissed about this. I

525
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: go in into this lady who's like not even trying

526
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: to help me, right, she hates you away, I can

527
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: go pick.

528
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: Up the keys.

529
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I have a ten foot truck that I had rented.

530
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Will you helping a family member?

531
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: You help a family member move? And so I go

532
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: in there and I had a reservation at like eleven am.

533
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: And I go in there and she like takes forever

534
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: to like work through this this other couple of problems.

535
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: I get to her and she's like, oh, you have

536
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: to go through the check in process, and I'm like, oh,

537
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: fuck me on my phone takes forever. They literally have

538
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: to call another person to like verify your fucking identity

539
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: or something. It's this the weirdest shit. Finally at picture

540
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: Free driver's license, all this stuff, it finally gets through.

541
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: Now it's like ten forty five.

542
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: And they're like, sure, we actually need a semen SAT.

543
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, dude, what in the fuck. So

544
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: I finally go to get my truck. It's not even

545
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: that building, it's across the street. Basically have to go

546
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: get it. I go to get my truck. They give

547
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: me the fucking beater. They're like, yeah, it's in with

548
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: that line there, but mine was behind like three other ones.

549
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: So they have just with the ten inch fucking trucks

550
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: or ten foot ten foot truck. So they move all

551
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: the ship to get my truck out. Then I get

552
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: my dude, they gave me a truck that looked like

553
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: it survived, you know, the ninety one fucking LA riots.

554
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's read.

555
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like people hit it with bricks like it had

556
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: They had the bit where it technically did lock, but

557
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't flushed with the spot. Yeah, And I get

558
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: in there and I turn the light on our I

559
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: turned the ignition and when I say.

560
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: Every dummy light was on, I'm talking check engine light,

561
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 5: no windshill wipe or fluid, the whole bit andtrug And.

562
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: Then there's a fucking there's a fucking thing on the

563
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: dashboard that says left tire pressure low phill immediately, and

564
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm not driving this fucking vehicle cross town,

565
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is this? So I have to

566
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: go back into there. Uh, And I was like, I

567
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: cannot drive this truck. And I was like, oh, by

568
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: the way, I also secure a furniture dolly and they're like, oh, yeah,

569
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: we don't have those. I'm like, okay, okay, right, let's go.

570
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: I understand this. It's now eleven or excuse me, it's

571
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: now nune. I still don't have a truck and I

572
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: don't have a fucking dolly and you didn't tell me.

573
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: They trickier to get the insurance too.

574
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: I get the I've got I've had an issue before

575
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: where like I needed the insurance, so like I pay

576
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: for it.

577
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: I paid.

578
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have your own insurance that has clauses.

579
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: I know, but like I know, I don't mind the

580
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: extra bit.

581
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is then they

582
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: finally get me another vehicle. That one worked great, Still

583
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: don't have a fucking furniture dolly, And then uh yeah,

584
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: I was on my way and I was like, do

585
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: I have to have it back now? Can't you just

586
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: by push me an hour? They're like someone's waiting on

587
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: the vehicle. I'm like, yeah, motherfucker me me. I'm the

588
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker waiting on the vehicle. So they were like, okay, okay,

589
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: you can come back later. So I actually still made it,

590
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: like right around the same time, But dude, what the

591
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: fuck is that? Man?

592
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know, I was like, what the

593
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: fuck is going on?

594
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: It's the worst customer service.

595
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also are at that point in your

596
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: life where you have no patience for other people. What

597
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: was that You told me like one time, like they

598
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: got us a car to go out to dinner in

599
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: which they were paying, and like you were like waiting

600
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: at the meeting point. You were like, Yo, if these

601
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: people don't show up, so I'm just gonna get my

602
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: own car. And I'm like, yo, they just got rented

603
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: us a car to take us out to this dinner.

604
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, but I'm going to point in my

605
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: life why I don't wait on anybody?

606
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Why are you making you anti social villain who definitely

607
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: said that it's true?

608
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: Did I You know what, man, I gotta be honest

609
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: with you.

610
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: I have. I got a lot of anxiety, bro, I

611
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of anxiety. It's crippling. Okay.

612
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Where does your anxiety, which we all have but two

613
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: different levels, where does it come out? Where is it

614
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: the most that.

615
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: It screws up your life?

616
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Because mine is work. Travel, Like that's part of when

617
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: you're like when you're like, hey, come out in my

618
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: room and hang out, and I'm just like, dude, we

619
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: were on camera for six hours. We were traveling for

620
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: eighteen before that, Like.

621
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: I know, the only reason why I want to hang

622
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: out is I mean, that's not the only reason, but

623
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: it just feels weird to like only talk to you

624
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: in those circumstances, you know what I mean.

625
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 2: That's why get up a little transactional, you know, in

626
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: that regard. But that is where like I'm not afraid

627
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: of the plane falling out of the sky. I'm not

628
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: afraid of any of the danger, just that chaos of

629
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: being stuck in one spot and being at the mercy

630
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: of other people's timing. It just drives me, Like it's worse, dude,

631
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: because we're traveling more, we're doing bigger shit. My travel

632
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: anxiety is getting worse.

633
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Do that travel. I did you know what that vacation

634
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 3: I went on.

635
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I know it was long. I didn't even really know

636
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: I needed it, And like, honestly, here's the truth. My

637
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: wife was like, she was like, you haven't really planned

638
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: anything for the vacation because we went back to one

639
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: of our favorite places. Yeah, but the truth is, like, dude,

640
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I could barely stumble to the finish line of that vacation.

641
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: It took everything I had, and then all I wanted

642
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: to do was just chill.

643
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do ship else.

644
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: All I wanted to do was run a zoom zoom zoom. Yeah,

645
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: just shake the realm.

646
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, dude, was great, Like I feel better, But

647
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: like what I'm saying, that run right before and you

648
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: went to the tank, Davis one, Like that run right there,

649
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that run, that run whooped me in.

650
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: I had a crazy sequence of like getting home from

651
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: work trips to you.

652
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: The fucking showbox stuff too, man.

653
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's taken. It's taking days and

654
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: years off my life. But you know, I'm trying. But

655
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: here's the deal, though, Like we were always up front

656
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: about our ambitions, Like, dude, we got a small peak

657
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: window here. You know, we're at this point in our career. Luke,

658
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: let's be real, right, or you're.

659
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: On Twitter, No listen to trying not to be frightened.

660
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look, dude, I got goals and dreams, like

661
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: I want to call fights, you know what I mean.

662
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we're lucky to do prelimbs together, and I

663
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: got this showbox thing going. But like, dude, I want

664
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: to be working the broadcast when the fights freaking happened.

665
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: And I'm willing. I'm willing to do whatever.

666
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: It freaking takes to get there me too.

667
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, that's the drug in this game. Forget

668
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: the money, you know. I mean, look, look, if we

669
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: go to that one day full time, would you have

670
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: a different, more relaxed schedule, probably probably making a lot

671
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: more money. But I'm willing to I'm willing to die

672
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: on the road to get there, Luke, because I think

673
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: it's worth it. Because that, I mean, the money's probably great.

674
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: All that's great. What about sitting right there.

675
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Do you think about like broadcasters who've had like the

676
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: best career in terms of you know, longevity in the space,

677
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: the fans like them, steady work for a long time.

678
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: We always talk about Joe Rogan on the MMA side,

679
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: which is obvious, like he's been front Row two. Yes,

680
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: the craziest shit. It's just the most remarkable experience to

681
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: put some respect. And I mean this Al Bernstein, Dude, yeah,

682
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Al Bernstein. Every time I go back and I'm like, oh,

683
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: I wonder what I remember, or catching up on fights

684
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: I missed from like the nineties, the boxing fights there

685
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Al calling shit again, you.

686
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Know, dude, Al I mean I was going back to

687
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: like the early eighties in terms of like the elite

688
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: top level. And I mean, dude, him and Barry Tompkins,

689
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: who I'm so happy to be working with now on Showbox,

690
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: when they did the ESPN Gig, when they had that

691
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: top rank series in the late eighties and early nineties,

692
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: and they aim to do the two guys at a bar.

693
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 2: That was like their strategy, Like, yeah, I might be

694
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: played by play sometimes, you might be played by play

695
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: other times, but we're just calling this like we're hanging

696
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: out Like that's the dream right there, Like they had

697
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: they had something going there, like that was chemistry. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: that's what I want, man, that's what I want to

699
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: be a part of. I mean, do you get down

700
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: with that? I mean, what what I'm actually asking what

701
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: motivates you in the broadcasting side beyond like we said,

702
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: beyond money, beyond trying to get recognition, which we all

703
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: want to be like considered the best and the you know,

704
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: these awards in this podcast make it all fun and

705
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: all that. But like I'm looking at it like that's

706
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: the elite level of this job, and I want to

707
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: compete on that level. I want it to be own

708
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: that I'm competing on this level. What gets you out

709
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: of bed in that regard probably just the money?

710
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah what the fuck? First of all, that wouldn't be

711
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: a bad thing, But no, no, just you know, I

712
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: think it's you just want to be Like, what do

713
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: you want out of a commentator?

714
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: What do you want?

715
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: You want them to be helpful? Do you want them

716
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: to be like a guide?

717
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to you want to literally like help

718
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: educate the audience?

719
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Take them? Well, it's like the truth is I'm educating

720
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: myself constantly, and you know I have just the job

721
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: is not fucking rocket science and just breaking down this

722
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: like this way. Like I don't have any other gifts

723
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: that any other person I think could could have, And

724
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't have like some special blah blah blah.

725
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: I have to write speeches in Washington. Don't count yourself short.

726
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Well, who's what I mean to say. But I have

727
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: time in the day to invest in the looking at

728
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: tape and talking to people in the industry and getting

729
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: feed from coaches and blah blah blah. He goes on

730
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: and on. I have the time and the resources to

731
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: do that. So obviously, over time you do it long

732
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: enough and decently enough, you're gonna pick up some stuff

733
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: along the way. But you know it. That's it.

734
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: That's it, man, That's really it.

735
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Like I would just like to I would like to

736
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: have like the kind of command of the craft where

737
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: people feel like they really get.

738
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Something, you want to enhance their experience. Yeah, that's what

739
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: I want to in similar but other ways I want

740
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: to I want to be on the soundtrack to that fight.

741
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, how many moments and great moments

742
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: we don't fight, but we love the game. We want

743
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: to help elevate it. We want to I want to

744
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: deliver my my part of the job on the call

745
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: that elevates the broadcast so much, and that you say, damn,

746
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: that fight was so great, but that but that announcement

747
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: that that got me in there was like a roller coat,

748
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: like they just took us through.

749
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: They were our guide, right, dude, I'll tell you what though,

750
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: Like where I'm at with stuff, I think about the times,

751
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Like one of my favorite fucking things that's still happens

752
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: all the time is when I listen to somebody who's

753
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: good at it describe what's happening in a fight or

754
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: describe a fighter. And sometimes it can be extremely analytical

755
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: like footplaces, ban blah blah blah. Sometimes it can be

756
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: more narrative driven. But there comes times where someone says

757
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: something about a fighter, usually in a moment of victory,

758
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: but not always, and it's so brilliant you actually can't

759
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: see them the same anymore. Yeah, Like it really is like,

760
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: oh fuck, how did I not see that before? Like

761
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: holy fuck, that is so true. Not to be like

762
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, you can't be the person that delivers these consistently,

763
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: but like you really remember those broadcasts you remember, you remember, like, fuck,

764
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: that was such a great point. And there's so many

765
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: people I want to be clear, like, there's so many

766
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: people who are doing really great work. I don't if

767
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: I could contribute, that would be you're asking what success

768
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: would look like, it would look like something like that.

769
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: But you know, and I still on top of that,

770
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: I still love great interviews. I love being a part

771
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: of them. I don't think anybody interviews like we do

772
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: together on that RSD.

773
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually liked doing interviews like the ones like

774
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: we did today. It was a fun of shit. I

775
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: do need to do more interviews.

776
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: There's an art to that. There's also a rush you

777
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: get in that because.

778
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: I've been too checked out.

779
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you gotta fight the subject. Sometimes you

780
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: gotta kiss up the subject. I mean you've got to

781
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: you've got to play armchair psychologists in a way to

782
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: try to if you're trying to get something out of it,

783
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: and you know you're what your intention is, but you

784
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: also got to be able to read and react on

785
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: the fly. And you know, I never want the subject

786
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: to know exactly what my true intentions are.

787
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: They're not your adversary, they're no exactly.

788
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: They're not my friend, they're also not my enemy, so

789
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: I always want them to be guessing. I always want

790
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: them to be going, wait did it this insult me now?

791
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Or or like wait is this guy a clown or what? Like,

792
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: cause you know you do you realize you know this.

793
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: You've been interview people for years on your shows. It's like,

794
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: especially when you've got a guy or a girl that

795
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: you know is not a great interview and you're like, Okay,

796
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: I'll do it, but like, I haven't had great success

797
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: here when you're able to finally play psychologists or pick

798
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: an angle and it works and you get like the

799
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: first time I got Cowboys Serony to say something that

800
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: was like worth sharing, I was just like, damn that

801
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: was worth it. That was like my seventh interview with him.

802
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: And I've tried to pis him off. I've tried to

803
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: get him to laugh. I've tried everything, and I finally

804
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: found the inside, because look, you don't want them to

805
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: say what they've already programmed their mind to say. You

806
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You don't want it to sound

807
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: like the other fifty interviews that they're doing.

808
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: You want something they have to tell you, like that's

809
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: an exhausting way to go through interviewing. Here's why I

810
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: disagree with that. Like, it's not that you can't do it.

811
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: You can and I've seen you do it.

812
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: Like you can do it.

813
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: But the way, like the real way to combat that

814
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: is you have to develop relationships with the fighters such

815
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: that the kind of person they view you as is

816
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: the kind of person where they can share those other details.

817
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: That's it's all about you.

818
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: You're not always going to get that or as hard

819
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: as to do it. But I don't care if they're

820
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: giving me eight minutes, which I had when I used

821
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: to cover ww man, I was the king of that.

822
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: You're only gonna give me eight minutes for this guy,

823
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: and I've got to hit these two bullet points. I'm

824
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: still gonna get some sound that's worthful, you know, I'm

825
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: still gonna find that.

826
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: I don't have quite that I don't have quite that same.

827
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: So but I love I almost love that from a

828
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: competition angle or from a challenge angle. When I when

829
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: I'm getting a big name but only fifteen minutes. As

830
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: much as that sucks, that's also a challenge. How quickly

831
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: can I get them to say something that they weren't

832
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: prepared to share either good either bad, either surprising whatever.

833
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: You know.

834
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to gravitate to the ones who are

835
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: already more on the articulate side, typically.

836
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: Not always.

837
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: Did you like articulate women in college too?

838
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: Probably?

839
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

840
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't get the whole part

841
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: where dudes like dumb girls. I was never that guy, man.

842
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: I was never that guy.

843
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Like, if you're actually picked, you get it. I come

844
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: from an area where I'm okay, I'm not talking about like,

845
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, hit it and quit it, fucking escapade that it's.

846
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: Not another rant against suffrage like you were doing earlier.

847
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: That was you you dumb? Then?

848
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: No, quite the opposite. I get the whole part about like, hey,

849
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm it's in between my junior and senior

850
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: year in college. I've got a job in the city.

851
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: I'll date her for six weeks or whatever. I'm not

852
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: talking about that. I'm actually talking about like long term.

853
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: You did it all for the dirty? Yeah, like dating

854
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: someone who's obviously fucking either way, no matter what your

855
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: preference or direction, why would you like be cool with

856
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: a partner who is quite obviously a fucking moron that

857
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: I just don't get that, Like, how can you develop

858
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: a meaningful partnership over time if your interest level and

859
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: the ability to like navigate the world is so differing?

860
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: Answers that people based on how usually how they were

861
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: raised or how faults well the early relationships were have

862
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: different understandings of what a real or what a genuine

863
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: relationship is.

864
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: A smart successful part or is a good thing.

865
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you on that that certainly. I

866
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: feel like I went after.

867
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: These guys date dumb women and then they're like, oh,

868
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: women are dumb. No, No, the women you surround yourself

869
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: with are dumb, right, But there are already any fucking

870
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: super great ones.

871
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: They're already predetermined to try to get themselves into an

872
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: imbalanced relationship either all anyways, So that's the only balance.

873
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: But I'm asking you, man to man, who the fuck

874
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: can make a serious argument that dating a person.

875
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to less than tell you.

876
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: If you have low self esteem and you want to

877
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: be then fix.

878
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: Your low self esteem. That's not a good marriage. Like,

879
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: that's not that's not that's not a high relation.

880
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: Recommend that for finding marriage. No, But you know, hot

881
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: and dumb. That is something that people are looking for, though.

882
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Again short bursts for whatever reason, no judgment, but as

883
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: a long term thing, like just being in a relationship

884
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: with a person who's.

885
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: A fucking more you were more into like hot and

886
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: crazy than hot and dumb.

887
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct. I can't tell I can't tolerate the guy.

888
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: I just know if you're willing to put up with

889
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: a certain amount of crazy when you were single, you'd

890
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: also be able to shop in a higher tax bracket.

891
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: That is accurate.

892
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: That is that's actually it's actually surprisingly accurate. Yes, that's

893
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: actually quite quite true. Well I haven't quite thought of it.

894
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Talk like men do. Yeah, yeah, that is exactly that.

895
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: That's exactly correct.

896
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: That's you know, you're like, what's the front door anyway?

897
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: Right?

898
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: You know most countries don't even have them, look right,

899
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: you know?

900
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's.

901
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: When was the last time you used one of those toilets?

902
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: That's not really a toilet. It's just a hole in

903
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the ground that you talk about from like the Middle

904
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: East and from.

905
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: Like, dude, I know you think that every place other

906
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: than America.

907
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: But I have news Street.

908
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: There's there's many wonderful parts of the world the last

909
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: one I saw. The weird part of dude istan Bull

910
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: is one of these like you know, you used to

911
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: be called Constantinople and all that ship. Like Dude istan

912
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Bull is one of these places. Man, you're in the

913
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: middle of it and it's like you can you can

914
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: just feel the world history everywhere around you. It's crazy.

915
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: So a lot of neighborhoods are really new, a lot

916
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: of ones are really old. From what I remember, the

917
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: Gallata neighborhood was really old, and then the like Bushiktas

918
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: area was a little bit more.

919
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: New shakes as you pronounce.

920
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: Yesk this is also like a soccer club. But anyway,

921
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: in the old Gallada area there was this it was

922
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: like I think about the Gallata tower even there was

923
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: this fucking commode and the dude was I'm not doing

924
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: a bit, was charging one lira to tear out pages

925
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: of a phone book to go wipe your ass, to

926
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: go take a dump in an opening, And I was like, dude,

927
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: come on, Turkey, get it together, and what did we

928
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: do with here? Fellas.

929
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: I saw my first floor commode recently in Canyon Lands

930
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: National Park in Utah. When you go into the bathroom,

931
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: which is like, you know, some cinder block walls on

932
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: a roof outside and they have the regular toilet. They

933
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: also had the the what is that the Asian model?

934
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: So it did have a bidet, did a spray your outday.

935
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: A hole in the floor with railings?

936
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

937
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Fuck all that. We just got a squat like.

938
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: A yeah, yeah, and I had never seen that before.

939
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: I got badger.

940
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: And the area where you drop into is closer than

941
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: it should be to like.

942
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not Yeah, it's not like there's like clean

943
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: separation and no.

944
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you're sitting. You're squatting over a shithole literally.

945
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

946
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when was the last time you used one?

947
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: So that would be well, I guess actually I didn't.

948
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I didn't end up. Oh I urinated in it, so

949
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't really count. Also, squat Marine corps. Marine Corps

950
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: like just having to dig within within e tool, just

951
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: having to dig a hole and take I told you

952
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: about this. So what we did was in artillery. A

953
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: purpose of artillery is to shoot, move, communicate. That's what

954
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: everyone does. That's the whole bit. And uh, what we

955
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: used to do is on the hill that was in

956
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: the school that wasn't actually in my unit where they

957
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: got I can't even.

958
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad your unit didn't give involved. Yeah that's good.

959
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: No, But so what we would do is we took

960
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: a milk crate and we cut out the bottom so

961
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: it's just got the sides, and then we would zip

962
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: tie a toilet seat to it, and then we would

963
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: haul that around in the back of the humbie and

964
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: then dig it behold with the drenching tool, to e tool,

965
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: put that bad boy on top, and it get to work.

966
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: It was great. The only part that was the catch was,

967
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: and this is not a joke. I'm not in any

968
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: way exaggerating. It is one hundred percent true. In the

969
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: space where the ass and the feces will go is

970
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: where they would store the coffee pot. That's a real

971
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: thing that they actually did that I fucking hated, but

972
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: I still put up with because I wanted hot coffee

973
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: in the morning.

974
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: Wow do you go or are you a part of

975
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: any marine reunion email chain?

976
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: I used to do that, you know, and I still

977
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: keep in touch with some of those guys. Funnily enough,

978
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: one of the guys I served with, he ended up

979
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I think volunteering to do a couple of tours over

980
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: in Iraq. I don't think he enjoyed the experience in

981
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: the end, but he ends up so he is of

982
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Chinese descent, and his family, which he now works there

983
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent full time, owns one of the

984
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: most I didn't even notice that. I didn't notice at

985
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: all at the time we were in the same unit.

986
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Owns one of the most like iconic Chinese restaurants in

987
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: the fucking city. Like, dude, Chinese or I think maybe no,

988
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, I want to be careful about this. I

989
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: think Taiwanese dignitaries or people of Taiwanese influence, like they

990
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: go to this place as like a destination. So he's

991
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: doing great, which I'm really happy to see. Dude, a

992
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: lot of them, Man, they got weird at the Iraq

993
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: war Bro, I'm just being honest with you. They got

994
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: real weird. They got they got into the like I

995
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: talked abouts in my life chat, some of them were

996
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: posting art like like you know, phony artwork, but like

997
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: artwork that referenced the Crusades, And I was like, yeah,

998
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're the same people anymore.

999
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Man, do you think any of those guys are proud boys.

1000
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: Now, well, the ones who are my age are probably

1001
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: too fucking old. But I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't

1002
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: be surprised if they were, I wouldn't be surprised.

1003
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: But do you think they made better soldiers because of it? Though?

1004
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: Dude, I had a funny conversation about shit like that.

1005
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I don't know, but I will

1006
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: tell you this, man, you do need to embrace not

1007
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: to get into the Marine Corps, but to really thrive

1008
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: in the Marine Corps. You absolutely have to, in my view, adopt,

1009
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: especially in combat arms. Right, you have to adopt a

1010
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: certain level of personal extremism. I don't mean political extremism.

1011
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean personal extremism a certain for me, certainly, a

1012
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: shattering of limits that would have been in your mind

1013
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: would have been prisons before. You have to go recklessly

1014
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: beyond that. We call it like being gung ho. And

1015
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: I do you see these marines who are super fucking

1016
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: gung ho. Everything is is buttoned up like they first

1017
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: class PFTs and they're fucking this but there and then

1018
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: they're drinking and they're fighting.

1019
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: And the whole thing.

1020
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: You know, uh, I do think it makes some better marines, Yeah,

1021
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: I do. The problem is, you know, it doesn't make

1022
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: you good at fuck all else, Like, it just makes

1023
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: you a complete maniac, you know. And there were some Dude,

1024
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: I honestly like would I don't want to serve around

1025
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: someone who's such a maniac that they can't make good

1026
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: combat real time decisions, you know. But I've seen some

1027
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: maniacs who you know who could.

1028
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: But you saw dude wur in it for the sport

1029
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: and for the rush, in it for the experience, and

1030
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: it for open they go to battle.

1031
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, Like, the person who's like that

1032
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: who's also not intensely patriotic is not as much as

1033
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: you might imagine, like Hollywood likes to paint like, there's

1034
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: the kind of people who are like kind of into war,

1035
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: but they're not patriotic. Nah. The ones who are super

1036
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: patriotic are the ones who are into war.

1037
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: Oh, they watched our show. They were they were there

1038
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: on the steps on one.

1039
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, dude, like like some especially I

1040
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: don't know about the officer ranks. Let me back up

1041
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: a second. These are the ones who go to college.

1042
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: And I was in college, and while while I was

1043
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: in the marine corpse. I wasn't eligible to be an

1044
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: officer in retrospect that I did the way I did it.

1045
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: But I was in the enlisted ranks, where a lot

1046
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: of it is just like gruntwork. Dude, you want those

1047
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: guys to be fucking.

1048
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: The guys on the gunline.

1049
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: We called them gun rocks because, like you know, they

1050
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily the brightest, but dude, they got they attacked

1051
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: the problem like then the most ferocious of ways. You know,

1052
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: you want that shit you want, and it turns them

1053
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: into I think it I you know, whatever their whatever

1054
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: their pre existing political orientation was before all that, it

1055
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: just supercharges it in some kind of weird direction in

1056
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: the end.

1057
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

1058
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: So is football just sporting war softer extension and natural pivot?

1059
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1060
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: We just got grid iron deep. Oh look, did you

1061
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: consider giving your size at all making a run for

1062
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: the football team at either of your high school No, Like,

1063
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't even like a you know it would be

1064
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: you know it probably should. No.

1065
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: No, I didn't like American football while I was in high.

1066
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: School, or Americans or America.

1067
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: I like plenty of parts of America, I didn't like Georgia, Okay.

1068
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: You do protect the flag better than I do.

1069
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, for all the bullshit I get, It's like, again,

1070
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: one of us, one of us did something about that.

1071
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: One of us didn't.

1072
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: You also served our country and I didn't.

1073
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: That's what I was implying.

1074
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost joined the National Guard to try to

1075
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: get the free college.

1076
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: People should have National Guard.

1077
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: They're valuable.

1078
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: They're valuable. I mean, they're you know, they're pathetic, but

1079
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: they're I'm te dude. I know a lot of marines,

1080
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: this is true. I know a lot of Marines whould

1081
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: do like eight so you have to you have to

1082
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: do eight year deal to get money for college. And

1083
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: what they would do is they would do eight years

1084
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: and then they would fucking hate the Marine Corps, Like

1085
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: they would walk out of the Marine Corps in their

1086
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: hands and knees, like barely passing PFTs, like totally checked out.

1087
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: And then what they would do is they would stay

1088
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: in the reserves and they would go into the National

1089
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Guard and then stay in twenty years and they'd be

1090
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: eligible for certain retirement benefits for life doing that.

1091
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: And I would ask them, like, how is.

1092
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: It in the Guard, dude, it's a cake walk compared

1093
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: to all that shit. It's easy as fucking They're all fat,

1094
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, so God bless them, man.

1095
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. I probably would have joined the

1096
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: Army though, because I think I had the image of

1097
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: them being the toughest at the end of the day.

1098
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you can blame military movies on that, Luke. Yeah,

1099
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Pat Tillman was in the Army.

1100
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: No one's really. I mean, the Marines had the longest

1101
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: boot camp and then the longest training for their what

1102
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: they would call the basically trained marine, the same thing

1103
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: as a basical train soldier. It's the longest boot game

1104
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: was thirteen weeks. The Army I think is eight or

1105
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: nine they have. They're the only branch, the military branch

1106
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: that runs three miles for their physical fitness tests.

1107
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: So do you think the Marine makes the best specialists?

1108
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: No, not necessarily. I mean everyone is enamored with special forces,

1109
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: which is like one percent of one percent of one

1110
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: percent of the military. You know, everyone, like the vast

1111
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: majority of everybody else is just a fucking ordinary dude.

1112
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 3: Dude, I will tell you this much too.

1113
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I have seen you know what, well, you know, I

1114
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: want to say I have seen so many people talk

1115
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: about these like extreme personality guys, some of which are

1116
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: military related, some of which aren't, some of which, watching

1117
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: our show, some of was shit. But like, dude, these

1118
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: guys who were like so fucking macho, you know, so

1119
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: fucking macho. Let me tell you man like like those, No,

1120
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: let me give you a different example. I've said this before.

1121
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: Dude.

1122
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: We had a guy, a drill instructor. He was not

1123
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: with my I went to college. So if you go

1124
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: to college in the Marine Corps in nineteen ninety eight,

1125
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: during the summer, what they would do is they would

1126
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: let you skip one week, which is called team week.

1127
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: The paras island is self maintained, so like the recruits

1128
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: cut the grass, the recruits work in the kitchen, it's

1129
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: self maintained, and every troop, all the troops and all

1130
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: the battalions take turns in a week during that process

1131
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: helping to maintain the island. You get to skip that

1132
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: if you go into college, so you don't miss out

1133
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: on important parts of your thing. So instead of being

1134
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: thirteen weeks, it was twelve for me. So I had

1135
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: to change platoons two thirds of the way in over

1136
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: to second Battalion E Company and the first Battalion A

1137
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Company and uh, they had a drum stark over there,

1138
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: dude who had the jump wings and the scuba bubble,

1139
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: which meant he was forced reconnaissance and which is the

1140
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: Marine Corps Special Forces. There's some other ones too, but

1141
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: that's the big one. And dude, this motherfucker was the

1142
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: hot dude. He was the toughest human being up up

1143
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: to that point in my life i'd ever seen. I

1144
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: forget what no, no, dude he was. This guy must

1145
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: have been on steroids because he was enormous and shredded

1146
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And he was a complete asshole like

1147
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: he was so.

1148
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 2: He was like real life rambo bit dude.

1149
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. When we graduated he told us, he goes,

1150
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: I hate you, I hate this job, I hate my

1151
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: wife and kids. When this is all over, I'm going

1152
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: back to recon. I'll never forget that. Dude. That was

1153
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: the coldest shit. I I mean, like he if he

1154
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: had stuck a knife in you. Afterwards, he'd been like,

1155
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: I understand, I get where that's coming from. You know

1156
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: what I mean, what does he mean?

1157
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: Recon?

1158
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: It's like like the Marines Navy seals.

1159
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: It's oh, but he lives for that.

1160
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's back.

1161
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: So you get selected, the Marine Corps will can order

1162
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: you to go do stuff like that depending on your situation.

1163
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: And I guess I guess that they had because he

1164
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: had the he had the jump wings and the scuba

1165
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: bubble and like, dude, he had like you can see

1166
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: someone's rifles, not their score, but their quality.

1167
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: He was expert on pistol.

1168
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: He was expert on the rifle, and he had been

1169
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: expert many times because they had all these awards like

1170
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: in between, like he was as thugged out as you

1171
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: can possibly be. And he was like, I hate you,

1172
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: I hate this job. I hate my wife and kids

1173
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: when this is all over, turning back to recom and

1174
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, these guys don't make great husbands

1175
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: and fathers, like they made me real bad.

1176
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: You know, neither neither do fighters, Luke, That's not true necessarily.

1177
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: It's a fair point the rest of the population. Some

1178
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: are good, some are bad.

1179
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, you backed me into a corner.

1180
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Maybe that was wrong. You know what kind of pornography

1181
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: you watching it? I'm not watching it.

1182
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: This is you know, this is you asking me that

1183
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: it's very really just no, no, no, I'm trying to think.

1184
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh dude, you know what's coming out soon? Tell me

1185
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna get geeked for this. Please Dune too, Dune too,

1186
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Dune too. I think it may still be like under

1187
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: a year away. But so, I don't know if you

1188
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: know this, Louke. But the first Dune book, which I bought,

1189
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: I and I got to get back into it. Look,

1190
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: you know I do read once in a while, like

1191
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 2: once in a long while. But the first Dune book

1192
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: would essentially cover these two movies.

1193
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Hole, so the first.

1194
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: Movie was only one half.

1195
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: Of the book, all right, I tuned you out.

1196
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, a long long time.

1197
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Before that to be Just to tell me when is

1198
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: the second movie coming up?

1199
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: Nine months, six to nine months, something like that. But

1200
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 2: are you fired up? I mean do That first movie

1201
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: was fucking awesome.

1202
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not fired up until you see Black

1203
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Hawk down.

1204
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: You say that compare? Is that the same guy?

1205
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I don't think so. But Black

1206
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe you went on like I'm gonna watch

1207
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: military movies and you haven't seen black which was by

1208
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: the way, is the thing that like actually happened.

1209
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh so you think that movie is like supered to

1210
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: the other military.

1211
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Movies, Like, I think it's not the best military movie,

1212
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: but I definitely think it's better than military movies you saw.

1213
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it can't be better than The Deer Hunter.

1214
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: No, it's not better than The Deer Hunter. That's a

1215
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: better movie. But but those are like film films that,

1216
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm talking war movies where like

1217
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more action ORIENTEDO.

1218
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: What was that Bradley Cooper won in the Goal for

1219
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: I like that one a lot.

1220
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: Not her Locker, No, but dude, her Locker is real good.

1221
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Herlocker is excellent. Yeah, damn, Saving Private Ryan is good.

1222
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's good in like a Disney type way, right, Well.

1223
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: Except for the first fea.

1224
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess like they commercially went after that's that's

1225
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 2: an all star game cast.

1226
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a big budget Yeah. Yeah, yeah, dude,

1227
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm still a letter for.

1228
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: For a letter from Ewojima.

1229
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: Guy, dude, you got me watch that. That was really good.

1230
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: But why why don't you rep nineteen seventeen? I mean,

1231
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: come on, you overstate how good that that movie is great?

1232
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: It is great cinematography. It's great extreme in that movie,

1233
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: it is excellent. It made it look like a one

1234
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 2: camshot the whole time.

1235
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: I agree it's well made. It's very well made, but

1236
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: it's still not that interesting relative to something where they

1237
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: can really slow down and dissect the plot.

1238
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: The journey Man, the twist and turns and the journey

1239
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: unique for.

1240
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: That reason, but it's not better for that reason. There

1241
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: wasn't any pornography.

1242
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: How about that scene where they sang.

1243
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: I want I want nothing, but these to be episodes

1244
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: where we talk about pornography.

1245
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: You just won't take.

1246
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: The baby, no, dude, you know that's part in that

1247
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: then and the movie when they're in the woods and

1248
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: they're singing, but yet everyone's just like so beaten down

1249
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 2: mentally for war like and the looks they give each

1250
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: other like those are moments you know.

1251
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah again, you should see the scene where the guy

1252
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: has to go looking inside the arm of another guy

1253
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: for his split vein. That's a movie you're setting me

1254
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: up for. Yeah, black Hawk Down. Oh god, it's it's grosse,

1255
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's grewsome okay, dude. Also that Pat

1256
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Tillman documentary where I told those ladies to shut the

1257
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: fuck up. They still make me angry about that shit

1258
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: gawking at him?

1259
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh mom, did you threatened suffrage taking that away?

1260
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Look at them or what listen? That was? That was

1261
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago. Like times have changed a little bit.

1262
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: You know, you can't quite just tell women to shut

1263
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 1: the fuck up in public as easily. But they deserved it.

1264
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: They that was very misogynist of you, right, No, no, dude,

1265
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: fuck them. I'm sorry. So no, don't be going there

1266
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: gawking on a dead man like that. Don't be doing that.

1267
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Ship Just keep it to yourself. You know how much

1268
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: how many times you, as a sexual fucking pervert gauk

1269
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: at women in your head and you just keep it

1270
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: to yourself.

1271
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: Luke that Nan was a hero and his country let

1272
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: him down.

1273
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: Who that's mean?

1274
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're not doing the pet toeman.

1275
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: They are we We were on that Greg Kelly interview.

1276
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: I think I gotta call my wife and kid. Dude,

1277
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: hold on, we gotta talk about this real quickly. Uh,

1278
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: the commanders bro it's official? Did you see it?

1279
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: So?

1280
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 3: Chefter reported it?

1281
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: But then Dan Snyder Josh Harris, which is one of

1282
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: the primary but not the only new owner. They all

1283
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: put out a statement being like, uh, we're selling. We're

1284
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: selling to the Josh Harris Group. It's official. We look

1285
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: forward to a swift transaction and to wish them well.

1286
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: It's official. Dan Snyder has said he's on the way out.

1287
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: It's not exactly completely one hundred percent done, but this

1288
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: is the first time that he has obviously ever. Dude,

1289
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: it's not just that the There was a tweet from

1290
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: Graham Paulson, like all the former employees speaking out about

1291
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: the abuse, all the media work to like shed a

1292
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: light on what a fucking crook this guy was, you know,

1293
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: everybody in between and who helped to do it, Like

1294
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: it was such an awful thing. It was such an

1295
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: awful thing. I just can't tell you man, Like I.

1296
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Is he a dirt bag on the Weinstein level or

1297
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: more like a James Stolen level.

1298
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 3: It's really hard to say.

1299
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: He's trying to indemnify himself from a the what's a

1300
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: and Joe White, who's got a big report coming out

1301
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: on him as well on some other I think work

1302
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: work bost issues, Like it's just fucking awful, dude. They

1303
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: ruin that fucking team they when I was a kid

1304
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: in the nineties at the time, the Redskins they were

1305
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: fucking god.

1306
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the I mean the Hogs, dude, they weren't

1307
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: cool though they.

1308
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Weren't you wear a Giants fan they were Giants fan.

1309
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: You know, the Hogs were not cool. I mean that

1310
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: ninety one team was great, but they weren't like cool, dude,

1311
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: there are a bunch of fat people with pig mess.

1312
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well in DC they were fucking cool, so

1313
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: fuck off.

1314
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you never had My point is our

1315
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: whole time as kids, you didn't have someone on the

1316
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: Redskins that was like cool ass ship or monk.

1317
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Fuck you was not cool as ship. A monk was

1318
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: like you mean like the Icky Shuffle.

1319
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you don't have Bo Jackson, Dion Sanders. You know,

1320
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: you don't have like Flair. You don't have a star

1321
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: Luke Flair. You don't have a star. I mean Charles

1322
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: dexter Manley dude, he did a lot of drugs.

1323
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: Dexter Man loved cocin. Dude. Briefly in a different career

1324
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: path I crossed paths with his wife, who worked for

1325
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: a luxury jewelry retailer. I worked for for a brief split.

1326
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: As a security guard.

1327
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: Armed. She was lovely armed security guard. No, no, well

1328
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: the other guy was, I was why not? I just

1329
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: do New York licensing? In was the two thousand and

1330
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: two to get a weapon was? I don't know what

1331
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: it is today, but even then, it's really fucking difficult.

1332
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: And place Cole Buris got one? Who plex to Cole Burris?

1333
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: Did he though? Did he have I mean he had one,

1334
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: but he he shot his himself.

1335
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: I understand.

1336
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like I know that he had one,

1337
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: but should he have had one? No? No, you know,

1338
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: in the end, I don't.

1339
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: Think he did himself any favors.

1340
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Did he No? Imagine shooting yourself and then having to

1341
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: go get prosecuted.

1342
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: For Okay, so are you going to go to the

1343
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: theater to see doing too? And like imax? Are you

1344
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: going for it?

1345
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: I have never seen a movie in an Imax theater.

1346
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: Itadass.

1347
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: I've seen like DC has Imax theater, like the when

1348
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: like the Air and Space or whatever the place is.

1349
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: And I've seen like I've seen like like short movies,

1350
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: like forty five minute movies, but I've never seen like

1351
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: the New Top gun or whatever.

1352
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I saw Creed three and IMAX and was

1353
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, and I saw the Second Sonic in

1354
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: iMX that was real good.

1355
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: Dude. You watch a lot of bad movies. Crazy.

1356
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a father, I'm a you know, three

1357
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: of my kids like that stuff.

1358
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Three sucks.

1359
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: It didn't suck. It just wasn't great. And it it

1360
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: They led you to believe, didn't the trailer lead you

1361
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: to believe it was going to be great? It did that.

1362
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: It was one of the best.

1363
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: Trailers I've ever seen.

1364
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: Maybe, And it wasn't bad, dude. It just wasn't great.

1365
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1366
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: It's just Yeah, it wasn't bad. But I just never

1367
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: bought in. You know, Michael Jordan's pretty cool though. I

1368
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: like Michael B. Jordan. I like him. He's a great actor. Uh,

1369
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: got a great chemist, clearly. Yeah, he's on I mean

1370
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: so not even not even better at him. Just just

1371
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: just jealous, just jealous, that's it. Just jealous.

1372
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: He must his d ms must be just I mean, can.

1373
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Imagine, Yeah, just the absolute poon hound he's probably.

1374
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: Been, yeah, parlays Poonani, Yes, yes, indeed, indeed, Yo. We

1375
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: never talked about James cross anymore.

1376
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of that I'm talking about.

1377
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: Yo. Do you think like you're real talk already? Second

1378
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: half of twenty twenty three? Is the UFC going to

1379
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: be good? There is going to be more bullshit?

1380
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: Dude? Did you see whether a profit margin was up

1381
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: to Yes, just a few years ago it was twenty percent.

1382
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Their profit margin has grown to thirty four fucking per dude.

1383
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: They are printing money, printing.

1384
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: Money yet yet they're watering Yeah.

1385
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: Yet there, Yeah, dude, the two are related. They gotta

1386
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: pay people people. People think they're making money despite that. No,

1387
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: they're making money because of that. They're they're they're Some

1388
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: of it is growth in advertising things like that. But

1389
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: the point being as part that is because they have

1390
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: so much inventory to sell, right, there's so many hours

1391
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: on so many events that they have to sell and

1392
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: fill with ads, and there's other ways of course they

1393
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: do this, not just that, but that's a big component

1394
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: of it. Do people think it's like, oh, how are

1395
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: they making money despite watering on the product? Dude? They're

1396
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: taking the product and spreading it a thousand different directions,

1397
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: tie in contracts to that, and then selling it. That's

1398
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: how they're just selling more things than they were selling there.

1399
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean, did you see Holly holmemade event against Bueno Silva, Like,

1400
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: do they are aggressively just like not giving a fuck

1401
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: aggressively like we don't care? So, I mean, do they're

1402
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: not building something here?

1403
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: They're not building cards, They're just building calendars.

1404
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's something deeper here with the stain Away

1405
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: Contender series. Maybe I'm watching too many of those investigative

1406
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: conspiracy guys on on YouTube, but like, dude, they are

1407
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: bringing in there's like there's like clone Trooper, you know development.

1408
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean, like they are bringing in hungry, cheap guys

1409
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: and that's how Like, Luke, do you know how many

1410
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: of those guys are managed by the same people too?

1411
01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1412
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there's a pipeline here.

1413
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: And who gets the least amount of scrutiny in the industry,

1414
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: it's managers. They get the least amount of scrutiny because

1415
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: for a lot of media outlets, that's the gateway to

1416
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: get access to the fighters. That's not entirely true, that's

1417
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: not always true, but it's generally true. People think it's

1418
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: mostly like Ali because I know he's got some famous

1419
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: fews with people, But it's not like it's like most

1420
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: of these Any manager that's got like several hundred clients,

1421
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: for sure, they're gonna act in like.

1422
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: A gatekeeping com Okay, I want to ask you an

1423
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: important question.

1424
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: Huh.

1425
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: You'll think it's unrelated, but it is. Lando Calrisian did

1426
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: he have no choice in the Cloud City when he

1427
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: let Darth Vader in and he set up his friends.

1428
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: He didn't have no choice, but he made all things

1429
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: being what they were, he made the right choice not

1430
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: to betray. But what I'm saying is he had a choice.

1431
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: He could eive like I'm gonna fight Darth Vader to

1432
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: the death, certainly gonna lose, certainly going to lose. Or

1433
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: he can go along with this scheme and hope to

1434
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: wiggle out of it later, which is risky and shitty

1435
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: and awful, but it's better than instant death. Okay, then,

1436
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: because in the end, Han lived, Laya lived, Luke lived,

1437
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Chew we lived, C three PO lived, R two, D

1438
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: two lived like everyone lived, So like, clearly it was

1439
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: the correct choice.

1440
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: Was a bitch, dude?

1441
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: R two was.

1442
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: R two had some spot, dude.

1443
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: How are you this fucking neurotics.

1444
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: As a side, Yeah, all right, but back to this,

1445
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: so are the managers like because we all look, when

1446
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: I get deeper in this, I watched all the m

1447
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: m ai stuff. Dude, he's got something going here with this.

1448
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: How he's framing the way the manager's role is that

1449
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: that they are surviving by becoming the pipeline from the

1450
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: regional scene to the UFC. They're not out there fighting

1451
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: Dana Way. They're not Luke. It doesn't seem like they are.

1452
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: No, they can't. How could you fight Dana White if

1453
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: you have three hundred clients but.

1454
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: Their promotion?

1455
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: How how could you make money if you if you

1456
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: have that many clients and you don't have access to

1457
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: the UFC, you couldn't actually make enough money. You couldn't

1458
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: employ enough guys to get commission checks to make it

1459
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: worth your while.

1460
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: Tight and deeper, it's keeping the regional scene alive because

1461
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: they're all getting in the UFC contract Fight Pass contract.

1462
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: But it's been creating a funnel system, which is not

1463
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: a problem unless you look at this with a critical lines. Say,

1464
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: the manager's job is to get the most money in

1465
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: the best situation for their fighters. Are they actually doing

1466
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,479
Speaker 2: that or are they just surviving and keeping and keeping

1467
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: both relationships going.

1468
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I think again. I just here's what it

1469
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: needs to be explained to me. Someone explained to me

1470
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: how the business model not of boutique firms or which

1471
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: have you know, a small amount of clients or you know,

1472
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Nate ds famously like the guy who reps him only

1473
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: reps Innate, like he doesn't anybody else. You know, I

1474
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: think those things obviously work. And you know, there's going

1475
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: to be some border line cases or whatever, and we

1476
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: can all debate them. But the ones that have like

1477
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: hundreds of clients, like that model doesn't work but for

1478
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: compliance with UFC, And you're like, oh, they could take

1479
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: their clients elsewhere, dude, know the fuck they couldn't. Actually

1480
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: know they couldn't. There's not enough other places that could

1481
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: employ them to make that worth their while. Also, that's

1482
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: the most lucrative end, so like even if you could

1483
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: get them jobs, you would be like vastly undercutting your

1484
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: own ability to get wealth. Like, I don't understand the

1485
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: ethics of that business model, so perhaps I'm missing something

1486
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: about it, which is possible because it's hard to get

1487
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: any manager on the record actually like defend the business

1488
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: model as such, like you know, anything where you're that

1489
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: leveraged just by the virtue of the relationship, it's just

1490
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: impossible for me to believe that that's the best way

1491
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: to get things for each client. It doesn't mean it

1492
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: literally doesn't make sense.

1493
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they're Lando's and there's just

1494
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: surviving them same or if this is just another ridiculous

1495
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: obstacle that the average fighter in twenty twenty five he

1496
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: still has to deal with.

1497
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, just think about it.

1498
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: Like if you wanted to get sideways with UFC and

1499
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: you're a manager and you have like, you know, let's

1500
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: say fourner clients or whatever, three hundred clients, Like, uh,

1501
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: you're actually more leveraged by having more clients, right, Like

1502
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: if you had one client and they told you go

1503
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: pound sand, you know, they can't hold the fate of

1504
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: the other ones against you. And you know, imagine if

1505
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: you have one person who's kind struggling or a bunchall

1506
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 1: that are kind struggling and buncheolly are doing pretty great,

1507
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: and you know you need to account for all of

1508
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: those needs. Are you in a position to make sure

1509
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: that you're getting the custom results that each person's individual

1510
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: situation would necessitate when you're having to leverage risk from

1511
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: one relationship to the next, one's risk in reality is

1512
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: to the next where they could be in vastly different situations,

1513
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: vastly different needs from the promotion, and in fact, in

1514
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: fact those needs could be in conflict with one another.

1515
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the optimal business model for well, I.

1516
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: Don't understand who had an aggressive manager. While you can

1517
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: look at Francis and it got so it got to

1518
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: the point where it became so caustic that they had

1519
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: to break up.

1520
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: Right, So this is the point, like I don't you know,

1521
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: going hard in the paint against them. I don't know

1522
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: that works necessarily either. Like I'm saying, if they're that powerful, seriously,

1523
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: answer to the question, if they're that powerful, what leverage,

1524
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: even under the very, very very best of circumstances do

1525
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: you actually have. There are some ways to get some,

1526
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: but dude, it's just not fucking much. It's just not much.

1527
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: And you know, dude, like here's the thing, man, Like

1528
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, I know sometimes people in the UFC see

1529
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. It's like, well, here's what I

1530
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: want to tell them. It's like, dude, you won, you won,

1531
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: You won Like I watched all those battles, man, I

1532
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: watched all those fly by Night promotions. I watched the

1533
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: Death of Pride. I watched it happen in fucking real time.

1534
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 1: I watched it. They won, They won, They beat everyone else,

1535
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: and some of that they bought them out, like Strike Force.

1536
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: Some of the ones they just out competed, like they're

1537
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: really good at what they do. They consolidated the market.

1538
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: They are the clear competitive winners, and obviously those victories

1539
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: entitled them to a certain amount of fucking spoils man,

1540
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: like they earned it. But the problem is, dude, they've

1541
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: gotten so fucking big inside the space that now I

1542
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: think it's starting to work against them a little bit.

1543
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, is it? Is it? It's chea. You can just

1544
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 2: like lazily say they've gotten greedy, but is it? Is

1545
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: it not greedy? And I'm wondering is it? Because look,

1546
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: they just acquired WWE. This is the same Like they're

1547
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: still paying off that from acquiring UFC, you know what

1548
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean that at like extreme amounts. So the whole

1549
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: point is this, even though they're doing great financially, like

1550
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: we're watching it get watered down maybe or possibly or

1551
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 2: most likely for the sake of the parent company's bottom line. Yes,

1552
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 2: when the company's thriving in every other.

1553
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Possible it is being It is clearly, I think, to

1554
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: some degree, being manipulated, like they're cutting them.

1555
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: They're cutting themselves to like to like to say more

1556
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: like I don't.

1557
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: Even know are you can ascribe to that problem whoever

1558
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: you want, whoever's masterminding it. But whatever the case may be,

1559
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: they are taking a quality product and diluting it in

1560
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: such a way where it's like sometimes difficult to find

1561
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: the like the like where it's good or distinct or

1562
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: in keeping with the brand's typical standard of historical excellence.

1563
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: It is troubling. It is troubling, and I love the

1564
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 2: people that have the to hut up and just you know,

1565
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: it's fine. It's troubling though, it is.

1566
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: I just worried that like it's like I don't know,

1567
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: like we just haven't had a We've had a lot

1568
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 1: of really good stuff because I haven't had that blockbuster,

1569
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: man like Davis Garcia. Even on vacation, man, it felt fucking.

1570
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 2: Easy and it felt enormous. Man Like when I land

1571
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: in Vegas, few had asked me how big do I

1572
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: think this fight would be I would be still hopeful,

1573
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't have anything to prove it do that

1574
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: way in was out of control. Look, there were hundreds

1575
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: to thousands of people that couldn't even see, like they

1576
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: were so far back around the corner in crowds and

1577
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 2: they were packed in there to just like listen to that.

1578
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Dude, Like, I gotta be honest, Like I love going

1579
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,440
Speaker 1: to like boxing. It's just it's been really my relationship

1580
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: has really grown. But I love it when MMA is

1581
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: in a position where it has fucking huge fights like

1582
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: that and the thing is this too. It's like, dude,

1583
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: Connor has given us.

1584
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 3: Let's be real.

1585
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: Connor has given us in terms of like big fight feels,

1586
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: so many fucking gems. But it'd be cool if he

1587
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like we weren't just fucking reliant on him.

1588
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the last I'm saying, Let's be let's be

1589
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 2: honest here, what's the last non Connor related like UFC

1590
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: Blockbusters where it was one fight and that's all you

1591
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 2: needed and the whole sporting world has taken notice.

1592
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 3: So Bib McGregor is.

1593
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but non Connor, when's the last non Connor, Are

1594
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: you going all the way back to the to rousies

1595
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:54,919
Speaker 2: first couple of title defenses?

1596
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they are maybe maybe Jones DC maybe maybe.

1597
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a great maybe.

1598
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what about Lesner is two hundred? But like, do

1599
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: Lesnar fucking That's what I mean. I remember when he

1600
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: came into sport, dude and jolted that ship. Yeah, I

1601
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: was shocked at the electricity he just fuck or.

1602
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: No on that level, maybe I was shocked up with

1603
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: that rematch, man.

1604
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, dude, Like I feel like we're

1605
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: just you know, it feels like everything's I don't know,

1606
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: like it's the kind of buzz you get from a

1607
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: mandatory in boxing, Like, yeah, it's fine.

1608
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's the fear, dude. That's the

1609
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 2: That's the fear of any product, whether it's your favorite

1610
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: beer or anything, or your favorite band. You know, when

1611
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: they give when they become too popular and they have

1612
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: too many resources at their hands and they lose the

1613
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: creativity or they lose the drive. UF has not lost

1614
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: the drive to dominate and succeeds to.

1615
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: They don't have to, yes, they have only because no,

1616
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: but there's nothing left to rail against do they have

1617
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: utterly conquered the industry? They are they are? Do they

1618
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: are the industry? They are the industry. You know they

1619
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,520
Speaker 1: have complete Do I remember a much more diverse industry

1620
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: even fifteen years ago. I meane, more different kinds of players,

1621
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: different kind of power centers. The UFC has fucking absolutely

1622
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: taken over.

1623
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that'll just last six months and it's

1624
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: just let's, you know, pinch pennies for a little bit.

1625
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: Let's let's bring this number to this point. But all

1626
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: will be forgiven with big fights. But I just need consistency, man, equality,

1627
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: And I'm just talking about as a fan, Luke, Okay,

1628
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: Like it's just weird, man, And it's so unexplained, Like

1629
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: no one's gonna ask Dana that anyway, Like no one's

1630
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: would be like, hey, data was.

1631
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: The quality people I've done it too, or people bag

1632
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: on the people who are there. But it's like, bro,

1633
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: like dude, that job that they do, like it necessitates

1634
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: being there, right, otherwise the job doesn't exist. So yeah,

1635
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: of course you can push data a little bit, but

1636
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: you can't do it to the point where like they

1637
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: have to like you're not allowed in the building anymore.

1638
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: And they got somebody else and you're like, oh, well

1639
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: then don't take those jobs. But it's like dud, They're

1640
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: like these people are just feeding their families. Like I

1641
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think trying to what you should to me.

1642
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: I've always felt the problem was that the media company

1643
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: has never empowered you to like make choices like that,

1644
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: and so all the all all of those companies will

1645
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: cave and so like your your job would be imperiled,

1646
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: like they would just get.

1647
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: Rid of you.

1648
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: So uh they you know, you just have to understand

1649
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: where that situation, like Dana has. You know, Danta does

1650
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: like this interesting like podcast circuit now where it's like

1651
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: I think he still does like Jim Rome and stuff

1652
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: like that, but in general he goes on like a

1653
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of like a sports oriented Barstooley kind of podcasts

1654
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: and stuff. He still does Aaron Bronsenter and TSN because

1655
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: I think I'll say, you know that they're the Canadian

1656
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: partner and whatnot, but he doesn't really have conversations at

1657
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: all with any kind of a skeptical or otherwise inquisitive audience.

1658
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: I know Aaron does his best, and I.

1659
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: Think people that do their bad.

1660
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's again if Aaron went in there and

1661
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: been like you know, you know, Angrily got eversarial with him.

1662
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: The TSN is the partner. TSM will tell Aaron to

1663
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: go pound.

1664
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: Sand Yeah, yeah, yeah they will.

1665
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: They're not going to get us back. I've seen this

1666
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: battle like they're just these companies don't do that. They

1667
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: fold immediately, you know, so so too. Let's like he

1668
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: doesn't have to answer for anything.

1669
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, but you can't. Like, I mean, it's easier

1670
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 2: for us to be a little bit more freer and

1671
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: open and honest because we're not reliant upon them on

1672
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: the day to day access that keeps our show aflow.

1673
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: Are we all reliant upon some lead MMA promotion doing

1674
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: great business so we all thrive. Yeah, you know, we're

1675
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: all kind of in that together in that regard. But

1676
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: we're also fans and we want better quality whatever. Dude,

1677
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: who cares. I'm covering it anyway because I love this game, Luke.

1678
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have to like good or bad.

1679
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: I gotta be there, so I want.

1680
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: To be there anyway. I mean, I'm a boxing fan.

1681
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: To stay a boxing fan, you have to want the

1682
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: marriage to work, Luke.

1683
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I only feel the heat in terms of like

1684
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: there's just not been blockbuster events that you could like

1685
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: David David Garcia was big for us, But in terms

1686
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: of MMA like huge events, there just hasn't been one

1687
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: in a really fucking long time, or it just feels

1688
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: that way anyway. All right, dude, it's some really good ones.

1689
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: But what's your field level for Hanni Lomachenko.

1690
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: I have a feeling Haney's gonna win very fairly in

1691
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: a competitive fight where Lomachenko just looks.

1692
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: Old, looks old, or will it showcase like well Hani

1693
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: get the credit under that scenario. Yes, yes, dude, I'm

1694
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: really excited about that fight. I'm really excited.

1695
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: I am most excited about the news about Spencer and.

1696
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: But but I mean, we haven't heard much, but that

1697
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: might be a good thing.

1698
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: Seems like it's pretty good.

1699
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: It seems like it's coming. Though. Heavyweight things weird only

1700
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 2: if you believe there's money.

1701
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm so checked out on the heavyweights in boxing, dude.

1702
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: It seems like Josh, but it does. But I know,

1703
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: I guess Ruiz is now in then out.

1704
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: Of the root to heavyweights, Like all these motherfuckers are

1705
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: not fighting each other. That's what I know. I know,

1706
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: I see a lot of reports about in fights that

1707
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: aren't actually happening.

1708
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like a j and Wilder want

1709
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: to fight each other. So hopefully in something I mean

1710
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: that's a stadium fight in England.

1711
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: It would be great.

1712
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and just jerk off

1713
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 3: over like more.

1714
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: You know, it could happen.

1715
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: It'd be great if dude, that's how boxing fandom works.

1716
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 3: That's the most copium.

1717
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: How else you gonna It's a broken marriage, but we're

1718
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 2: we We still chase.

1719
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: In the draft he likes to date dumb women, Like,

1720
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: of course, no, I'm not.

1721
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 2: The guy who likes to date that. You were like,

1722
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 2: I could.

1723
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: Totally see that.

1724
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, why why would you want to want to

1725
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: put that you found boring to talk to?

1726
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: Basically, I'm saying I understand what people are looking for

1727
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: when they look at that, but I'm telling you that

1728
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 2: they're they're looking for imbalance based on them being imbalanced,

1729
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm not saying that like

1730
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: that's the way you should.

1731
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: But you mean like that if they feel like they're

1732
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: not smart, they also want someone who's not smart.

1733
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: They can feel like, here's what I'll say the one

1734
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 2: in control.

1735
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 3: It does.

1736
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: It's not a certain absolute level. You just want someone know,

1737
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: either right around your intelligence level, maybe want someone slightly

1738
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: higher as like a whatever, roughly around where you're at.

1739
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: As long as you're somebody, you meet somebody roughly around

1740
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: where you're at. Again, I think that could be great.

1741
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the ones who clearly want to step

1742
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: down because all they care about is the other things.

1743
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 2: I know, but I do get that idea. When you're

1744
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: a broken person, you tend to reach down in your pursuit,

1745
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: maybe out of some deep insecurities, you know what I mean,

1746
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: if you want it. That's why. That's why guys along

1747
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: to date younger people a lot.

1748
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: Look.

1749
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 2: Okay, they could be, but no, dude, I chased, I chased.

1750
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,919
Speaker 2: I'm married up. I mean my wife is She's fearless,

1751
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: and that's my favorite quality in a woman.

1752
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: My wife's ability to detect bullshit is absolutely next level.

1753
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: I have tried all my fucking kung fu mastery as

1754
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: one not worked.

1755
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: Plos were running out of recording time.

1756
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: So I don't you know, I thought, you know, we don't.

1757
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: Really drink on these anymore, so they're a little more boring,

1758
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: but you I don't.

1759
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: I think that was an enjoyable talk between I want

1760
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: and I wanted to say, two friends but were really

1761
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: not that close to me. I met three the people

1762
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: at home watching. Don't you want to make them feel

1763
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: like they're here on the couch, but you don't actually

1764
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: want them? Oh God, all right, Luke, I'm getting at it.

1765
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: I'm everyone