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Speaker 1: There's the stage records. We will see you an Welcome

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Speaker 1: to one final Just Baseball Show of the Week, Jack Peter.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you notice that we're sitting

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Speaker 1: I'm not going through him. We're talking in person in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've recorded maybe four hundred I think this is

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Speaker 2: And now that we're in person, we finally get to

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Speaker 2: watch our March March March Madness bracket get.

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Speaker 1: Destroyed, which is fine. That's just fine. It's fine with me, man,

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Speaker 1: as long as we can do it together. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Al West. Today's we continue our divisional previews here.

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Speaker 1: We just walked through the Al East. Peter and Arham

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Speaker 1: did it in about ninety minutes. Arm and I were

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Speaker 1: shooting for about forty minutes on the Al Central and

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Speaker 1: then it ended up being like one ten, So I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm always down to go an hour

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two World Series champion. But you look

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Speaker 1: Hour, right, I think five minutes is good for the A's.

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Speaker 1: we say, hey, Trevor May he's pretty good at playing

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Speaker 1: video games. And then that's it. That's the end of

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Speaker 2: Do you know the A's had a negative two hundred

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Speaker 2: but I would expect the A's to have a worst

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Speaker 1: They get on base, Yeah, they get on base. They

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Speaker 1: get on this all right, non baseball conversation off the top,

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Speaker 1: like our five ish minutes Florida. You landed yesterday, I

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Speaker 1: I will save that story for another time. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: Arm loves love, Arms, like you know, family, everybody that

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Speaker 1: We love that we got. We got the PR in

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Speaker 1: good shit for all of it. Yeah. Great. We've seen

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Speaker 2: the World Baseball class correct. Yeah, maybe Yo Moto might

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Speaker 1: You heard it here. Fy're in the top twenty and

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Speaker 1: The catching tandem right now is Jonaheim and Mitch Garver.

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Speaker 2: Bubba Thompson. While I don't think overall he's that good

434
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Speaker 2: of a baseball player, sneaky, one of the fastest players

435
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Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, up there with Corbyn Carroll and

436
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 2: Bobby with Junior and Trey Turner sprint speed. He's up there,

437
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: but like.

438
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Speaker 1: You know who else is fast as Billy Hamilton.

439
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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy had a six fourteen ops last

440
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 2: year and it's not He's not all world in center either.

441
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 2: And then you have a Doolie Garcia, who is very solid.

442
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 2: I like Adolice Garcia, probably a snub when we're talking

443
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Speaker 2: about corner outfields when we're ranking them in terms of

444
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Speaker 2: honorable mentions.

445
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Speaker 1: He's a very good player, but I mean a three

446
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: hundred OBP for a guy like that, Like, come on, dude.

447
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is Bubba Thompson or Adoles Adoles? I

448
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 2: mean Bubba Thompson's OBP was also three hundreds. It might

449
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: be like two eighty, yeah it was three or two?

450
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, like not good.

451
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Speaker 1: Adoles is actually like a thirty twenty threat, which I appreciate,

452
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Speaker 1: but counting numbers or counting numbers, I understand twenty seven bombs,

453
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Speaker 1: twenty five bags last year. Yes, Adols also has an

454
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Speaker 1: absolute hose all right, Like he's he's a good good Yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: he is a good defensive right fielder. I wish they

456
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Speaker 1: found a spot for Ezekiel Durant like and he can

457
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Speaker 1: hop in the outfield.

458
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Speaker 3: Josh H.

459
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Speaker 1: Smith like, I don't really place much stock in They

460
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: also have a really good system, and like Evan Carter

461
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Speaker 1: is a top twenty five to thirty guy in all

462
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Speaker 1: of baseball, but he's still probably a year and a

463
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Speaker 1: half away. I think Chris Young is aware that they

464
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Speaker 1: have outfield help coming. I think they just did a

465
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: terrible job of finding guys on one year proven deals,

466
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: like Confordo on a one year deal would have made

467
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Why didn't they steal Brantley away

468
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Speaker 1: from Houston?

469
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Speaker 2: I don't know stuff like that, Like maybe Brantley's not

470
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: with DH for Houston, but he can still go in

471
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Speaker 2: and play left, Like there were so many other options

472
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: they could have made a trade. You said it yourself,

473
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Speaker 2: With the farm system they have, with how.

474
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Speaker 1: Many arms they have, why not will Myers man.

475
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 2: Exactly something like that, Why not go get a guy

476
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Speaker 2: like Brandon Drury who can help on the infield and

477
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Speaker 2: then in the outfield, Like, there was so many guys

478
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 2: that you could have gotten, but instead you unloaded on

479
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 2: the pitching stuff, which I like because they needed to.

480
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: But there are just still so many holes on this team.

481
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Speaker 2: But one of those holes does not involve the infield.

482
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Speaker 2: I love this infield we talked about. Corey Seeker is

483
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Speaker 2: the guy who might take the biggest step up when

484
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Speaker 2: it's talking about banning of the shift, like that's almost

485
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Speaker 2: a narrative that's tired at this point. But at the

486
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Speaker 2: same time, but it's just perpetuated by you. Yeah, I'm

487
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Speaker 2: the guy perpetuating it.

488
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 1: Now.

489
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Speaker 2: It's taking a mind of its own right, But the

490
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Speaker 2: reason being is a guy with a two twenty babbub

491
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Speaker 2: who at two forty five last year. I mean, that's

492
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Speaker 2: just not supposed to. That's not what Kry Seger is

493
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: after hitting three hundred in two straight seasons. But again,

494
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Speaker 2: Cory Seger just has to stay healthy. Even if he doesn't,

495
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: like let's say he hits two sixty, it's still one

496
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Speaker 2: of the best shortstops in Major League baseball. Marcus Semion

497
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: one of the best second basement of Major League baseball,

498
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Oh one of the best first basement of Major

499
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Speaker 2: league baseball. And what we expect from Josh Young is

500
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Speaker 2: somewhat of a breakout year.

501
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Like Young, what are you expecting

502
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Speaker 1: from Josh Young? I'll tell you what, Like these projection

503
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Speaker 1: systems expect, they expect twenty one homers, and I think

504
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Speaker 1: that's more than fair. A two forty hitter with a

505
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Speaker 1: four to thirty slug.

506
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Speaker 2: I expect more than that. I expect more than two.

507
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Speaker 2: He's a better hitter than two forty.

508
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Speaker 1: Yes, I think four to thirty slug is on par

509
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Speaker 1: with what he's gonna do. Like, I think twenty homers

510
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Speaker 1: is fair, Yeah, Josh, and that is your fourth best infielder,

511
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: like when you already have Seger, semin and Low.

512
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Speaker 3: That's a great infield. It's just like, why are they

513
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Speaker 3: DH Brad Miller, I.

514
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Speaker 1: Don't know they They needed to get better there, Like

515
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: Mitch Garver should be the DH. Yeah, and he probably

516
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: will be, or like hey, maybe even mix in like

517
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: a Josh H. Smith as a DH. Josh H.

518
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Speaker 2: Smith had a two forty nine slug last year. Yeah,

519
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: but that's horrible.

520
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: It is horrible. That's horrible. I think Yoshi Tutsuga is

521
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Speaker 1: gonna get Bigley get bats for which kind of sacks

522
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Speaker 1: as like a DH.

523
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Speaker 2: Maybe I should take back about the Rangers because the

524
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: rotation I do like on paper, but we know what's

525
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: probably gonna happen to the rotation. I just it's hard

526
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Speaker 2: for me to make a pitch as them being a

527
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: playoff contender when you have the Astros and the Mariners

528
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: being so good, with the Angels having a better roster.

529
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Speaker 2: You look at the Guardians and you think they're basically

530
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: a lock to make the playoffs, and even if they aren't,

531
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be the twins of the White Sox having

532
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: a really good year. Then you look in the East

533
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Speaker 2: and it's the Yankees, it's the Rays, it's the Blue Jays,

534
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: it's the Orioles. Like, there's just too many better teams

535
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: than this Rangers team. Everything has to go right. Seeger

536
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: has to take that massive jump that I've been screaming about.

537
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Semion has to be second half, Semon NATHANIELO has to

538
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: do exactly what he did last year. Young take the

539
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Speaker 2: next step. Every pitcher stay healthy, and there are already falling,

540
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Speaker 2: and they're already falling like it's it's almost it's it's

541
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Speaker 2: a landslide right now, and it's.

542
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Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good. So Odorezi is sidelined

543
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: with arm fatigue right now. So Odoresei is the six.

544
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Speaker 1: If you work up like they're probably gonna start dropping

545
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Speaker 1: like flies, like right he is, I don't want to say,

546
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Speaker 1: like kind of get hurt, but he's the next. So

547
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Speaker 1: if you work one to five, it's probably de Gram,

548
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Martin Perez, Nathan Yuvaldi, John Gray, Andrew Heeny. De Gram

549
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Speaker 1: is de Gram. We know that that guy is as

550
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Speaker 1: sporadically available as anybody on God's Green Art. Martin Perez

551
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: had a year from Heaven with a two ninety ra.

552
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Speaker 1: Does Martin Perez do that again? Does Martin Perez have

553
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: a two eight nine? No? Does he have a three

554
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: to five?

555
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: I think so?

556
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Speaker 2: And I think he's figured something out. Does he messed

557
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: with his pitch mix? And I think, like we're even

558
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Speaker 2: seeing him in the WBC right now look good against

559
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: some of the best headers on the planet. I do

560
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: think as long as he stays healthy, he is a

561
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Speaker 2: very serviceable two.

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Speaker 1: Is he a two for a contender? No? Is he

563
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Speaker 1: a two for the Rangers? Yes? And is that bad? No?

564
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Speaker 1: What do you think John Gray is? Because John Gray

565
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: was a four last year?

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Speaker 2: I think John Gray settles in and has a pretty

567
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Speaker 2: nice year. I think he three nine to six last year.

568
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Speaker 2: Give me three to five this year for John Gray.

569
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Speaker 2: I think he settles in. He's got good stuff. First

570
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: year really pitching with the Rangers, and he had to

571
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Speaker 2: switch it up from pitching with Colorado. I think that

572
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Speaker 2: this year might be one of John Gray's best seasons

573
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Speaker 2: to date.

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Speaker 1: Do you think because he's comfortable? I do.

575
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Speaker 2: I think the comfortability matters. I think after you know,

576
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Speaker 2: first season in Texas, adjusting he only threw one hundred

577
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Speaker 2: and twenty seven innings, wasn't full healthy all year. I

578
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Speaker 2: think with a clean slate of health, we see one

579
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Speaker 2: of John Gray's better years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers last year pitch by pitch were

581
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Speaker 1: not terrible, not at all like the slider. The slider's great.

582
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: He throws at thirty six percent of the time, opponents

583
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Speaker 1: hit one fifty six against it. The fastball really eight

584
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Speaker 1: like obviously, you got to take his Colorado numbers with

585
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Speaker 1: a grain of salt, especially when it comes to the fastball.

586
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Speaker 1: But twenty twenty one opponents hit three thirty against his fastball.

587
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two opponents hit two seventy five against his fastball.

588
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: There you go.

589
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Now he's a fifty one percent four seamer guy. So like, yes,

590
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Speaker 1: I understand that two seventy five is a high number,

591
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: and like that needs to go down. Good fastballs major

592
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Speaker 1: league geitters don't hit two seventy five against. But if

593
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Speaker 1: you are mixing the slider in forty percent of the

594
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Speaker 1: time and opponents are hitting up buck fifty against it,

595
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Speaker 1: you feel decent about that. So I understand where you're

596
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Speaker 1: coming from. My big thing is like is he going

597
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: to command an because there are points where he walks

598
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. He had a nine percent walk

599
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: rate in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: He lowered that to seven and a half.

601
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Speaker 1: But if that can get to like seven or high sixes,

602
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: I feel a lot more comfortable in Gray, as every

603
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: fifth day going out there can give me six.

604
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: In Gray is not the problem. It's the bottom with

605
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: Evaldi and Heini. And I'm not saying that those are

606
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: bad starters. I actually think Keeny went healthy right now,

607
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: He's figured something out with that sweeper is a good starter.

608
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: It's just seventy two innings last year for Heini. That's

609
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: been his issue when he was with the Yankees. He

610
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: was getting pelted. Dodgers saw something signed him immediately. Then

611
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: he gets a two year deal.

612
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: With the Rangers.

613
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Speaker 2: He is just he's not a ticking time bomb because

614
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: it's not an automatic that he gets injured. But he's

615
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: one of the players that when we go over division

616
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: by division, team by team, then I'm one of the

617
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: most scared that he's going to have to deal with

618
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: an injury this year with de gram and Evaldi dropped

619
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Speaker 2: in velocity last year. Normally he's ninety nine. Last year

620
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: was like ninety four. That's just not the hard throwing

621
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Speaker 2: Nativaldi that we're so used to. He was also, was

622
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: he hurt, Like that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't it.

624
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Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't healthy. He threw what one hundred

625
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: and seven innings? Yeah, he threw one hundred nine innings.

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Speaker 1: On hundred and nine innings, so he was obviously going

627
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: through some shit. Yvaldi is thirty three years old. This

628
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: guy has had the weirdest fucking career, dude. I mean

629
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: he was well, he was a Marlin and he was

630
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: one hundred, but like, where's it going? Yep? Then he

631
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: goes to he was already a TJ guy. I think

632
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: at that point, I think. So then he goes to

633
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the Yankees, figures out that cutter disgusting, and then he

634
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: figures out the cutter and the splitter. He got that

635
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: Danaka splitter and he's great. H and then he goes

636
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: to the Red Sox and is a hero. And then

637
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: since then, like with a team that has been so underwhelming,

638
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: he was like the one steady force until last year.

639
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: And when Avaldi hit the fan, that's when like shit

640
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: hit the fan for the Red Sox, right, Valdi was

641
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: always that well, at least we have him every fifth day,

642
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: and like Red Sox fans are looking at their schedule

643
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, well, if I can get tickets

644
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: to an Avaldi start, I'm gonna go probably gonna win. Yeah,

645
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna go to that one as opposed to

646
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: a Winkowski start.

647
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

648
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: And then last year it was just like ash shit,

649
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: you've all used a shell of himself, Like, no wonder

650
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: we're fifth in the Al East. Yeah. So I see

651
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: you on Heeny, and I couldn't agree more with you

652
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: on Heeny because that guy, Like there are outings where

653
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: I turn on Andrew Heeny and I'm like this is

654
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: te ball today.

655
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are more outings, or at least last

656
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: year most outings. It was Dodger He was like he

657
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: was pitching it in close to ACE level.

658
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really was.

659
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: When you have one hundred and ten k's in seventeen

660
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: winnings with a three to one, that is ace level stuff.

661
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: I need to find out what sort of deal with

662
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: the devil the Dodgers made to make Tyler Anderson, Andrew

663
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Heeny and Tony Gonsolin really good.

664
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: It's messing with these guys sliders. It's this Dodger way.

665
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: It's they I got I got a I hate text

666
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: about Yan c al Monte from a Rocky fan friend

667
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: of mine. He was just like he fucking sucked with

668
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the Rockies and then he goes to the Dodgers and

669
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: he's like a sub two, like closer to one than two. Yeah,

670
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's classic. It's they do this with all

671
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: the relievers, and but I do think he figured it out.

672
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: It's just he hasn't figured out staying healthy yet. That's

673
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: why this rotation when healthy. When healthy, you have Jacob

674
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: deGrom best pitch for pitch, but you're on the planet.

675
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Martin Perez who maybe he regresses a little bit. Let's

676
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: say best case scenario, let's say he low threes. That's

677
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: like kind of best case scenario. I think at this

678
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: point John Gray does what we're saying, stays healthy. Three

679
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: five era Evaldi regained I would say confidence that he's

680
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: a he's a mid threes guy. Okay, Andrew Hey throws

681
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: one hundred fifteen inings. Then we're looking at the rotation

682
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Speaker 2: with this offense, because while the outfield is weak, they

683
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: have enough guys to at least hit them in where

684
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: you look at the team and you say, yeah, best

685
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: case scenario, this is an eighty five win team. The

686
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: problem is that worst case scenario, you're still looking at

687
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: sixty eight wins. And their best case scenario is nowhere

688
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: close to the Angels best case scenario. It's nowhere close

689
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: to the Orioles' best case scenario. It's just it's not

690
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: enough this year. But at the same time, what you

691
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: were talking about with their prospects is that this is

692
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: not the end.

693
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Right. They didn't spend.

694
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: Three hundred million dollars on an infield or five hundred

695
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: million dollars. They didn't spend three hundred million dollars on

696
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: the rotation for this to be the window and then

697
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: it's over.

698
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Right.

699
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: They have these arms coming. They have guys like Evin Carter,

700
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: who ARM is going to rank very high in the

701
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: top one hundred. This is not the end, this is

702
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I think the beginning, and they're filling the team now

703
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: with established veterans to stay competitive until the window is

704
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Speaker 2: fully open.

705
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and not to mention like, you've got some guys. Obviously,

706
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Degram is in it for the long haul. You just

707
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: signed a five year deal, but Yuvaldi just signed it

708
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: a two year deal. He needs just signed a two

709
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: year deal. So that gives you know, guys that were

710
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: even underperforming last year.

711
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: You know, somebody like a Jacklider Martin Perez is back

712
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: on one year. Yes exactly.

713
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: So like somebody like a Jack Lighter or a Kumar Rocker,

714
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: they have time to get up to the major league level.

715
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: With these veteran guys, you know, maybe they get an

716
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: audition and then they have like their true full season

717
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, like Lighter might just be a

718
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: mid season twenty twenty four. Let's get you up there,

719
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: because he's probably gonna repeat double A and then You've

720
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: got some other guys, Owen White, cole Win, you know, Glennatto,

721
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: like Glenado. How do you feel about Glennauto?

722
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, former Yankee, He's fine, he can get out.

723
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: They have a They have depth here, Antoine Kelly tk Roby,

724
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: like there are.

725
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: Even Dane Dunning is probably gonna throwing for this game.

726
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: He's not terrible.

727
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: It's not good.

728
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: He's not bad.

729
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be kind of bad. Former White Sock,

730
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: you might be kind of bad. Yeah. Fuck all right,

731
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Bullpen jose Lecleric is probably the closer. Brock Burke was

732
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: awesome last year, and then you've got other guys. You

733
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: signed Will Smith on a free agent deal. Smith is

734
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: not that good. No, he's not. He's not. I didn't

735
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: like that, so I thought that was a fleecing of

736
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Will Smith. Oderezi Street, I mean that was crazy. But

737
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: then you've got Taylor Hearn, You've got Joe Barlow, you

738
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: got Jonathan Hernandez, Cole Reagan's.

739
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: It's fine, It's okay, it is okay, And that's the

740
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: nicest thing that we could say about it. Burke was

741
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: excellent last year, and we expect him to be excellent

742
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: once again. La Clerk is very solid, Jonathan Hernandez very solid.

743
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: But then you keep going like Barlow was injured.

744
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: He was closing for them for a little bit, but

745
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: just didn't have that great of a year. You look

746
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: at a guy like Will Smith, who I think has

747
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: really just passed his prime at this point. Taylor Hearn,

748
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: they use him in I guess like every six days

749
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: sometimes and they starts and he gets he gets crushed,

750
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: like I just you know, I remember Ceci Sabathia. He

751
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: was talking up a storm about Taylor Hearn, saying he

752
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: sees some of himself in him, and I'm thinking about hisself, Ceci,

753
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: what are you on right now? Because what do you

754
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: see in Taylor Hearn that reminds him of you? Taylor Heard,

755
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: I feel like just throws a flat fastball down the

756
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: middle and it just gets pummeled.

757
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a five three last year. It's just

758
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't see it.

759
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: He's a six six two d and thirty pounds lefty.

760
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: Like I understand, yea, how you can dreamize Yeah, yes,

761
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: I understand how you can dream on that. But like

762
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: he was, he's been under nine k's per nine like

763
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: his entire career.

764
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: And it's not even about the strikeouts. It's just like

765
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: the stuff isn't that good.

766
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: Remember we're talking about whatever is likeah, you can look

767
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: at the numbers and be like, oh, yeah, that's not good.

768
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: It's just like this stuff isn't that good.

769
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a negative of good future performance

770
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: at all. No, and he sat ninety five, but like

771
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good nat it's a bad ninety five. Right,

772
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand where you're coming from. Again enough

773
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: on Taylor heard, Yes, I think this is the Marlins

774
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: conversation though, where you know, best case scenario they finished fourth,

775
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, they finished fourth in thisvie.

776
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. I think, well, best case scenario,

777
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: let's say the Angels do their Angels thing again, the

778
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: best case scenarios can finish third, but I just doubt it.

779
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Like even the sixtieth percentile outcome for both the Angels

780
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: and the Rangers is completely different. I think the sixtieth

781
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: percentile outcome for the Rangers is like seventy two wins,

782
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: while for the Angels it's like eighty. Yes, best case

783
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: for the Angels is ninety five. Best case for the

784
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: Rangers is not even in the nineties. It's they are

785
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: on a different plane than them, even though they've spent

786
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: more money than them. Yes, but with that said, I

787
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: like that they're trying. This is not a team that

788
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to make fun of for not No, they

789
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: are going for it. They are spending money. Maybe they're

790
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: not all the best moves, but I can respect Chris

791
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: Young and that front office that they are.

792
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Doing things and man like they have a nice ballpark

793
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: that draws a lot of people. Yeah, I mean like that.

794
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: There's something to be said about that. And you want

795
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: to pour money into the product and get more people

796
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: out to globe life. All of a sudden, you become

797
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: a factory and the Rockies profit.

798
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: They're a big cat. Coined this on part of my take.

799
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: They're frisky. There's a frisky team. Okay, frisky.

800
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: Did he say that about the Texas Rangers.

801
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: No, he said it.

802
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: I think about the Bears, who now have the number

803
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: one overall. Okay, yeah, all right, let's move on to

804
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the La Angels this lineup before we get into it.

805
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Good dude, it's so good. I mean it's so good.

806
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: It's so good, Like it is so good on paper.

807
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: I think it is so good.

808
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: There's one problem.

809
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: What's the problem Fletcher at short Yeah, but it's probably

810
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: gonna be your shall I mean it has they have

811
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: him on short they have him on roster resource as

812
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: the starting short stop, David Fletcher. When they have Luis

813
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Renheifo and g Orchelle on the bench, that's just not

814
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Renhifo was good for them last year.

815
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Not great. I was about to say great. He wasn't great.

816
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: He was good.

817
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: Orchella was good last year for the Twins. This team

818
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: has no weaknesses.

819
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Go through it. Let's go where's the weakness?

820
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: Okay, David Fletcher is not gonna be the short stop,

821
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: all right, It's gonna be your shallow or Renifo or

822
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: whatever version they figure out.

823
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Regardless, I think short stuff is the weakness. But o'hapi

824
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: and Stasy is the catch tandem, the newly extended Max

825
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Stassy as of the beginning of last year. Then all

826
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get o Hoppy from Brandon marsh.

827
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: He falls into her hands and it's like, wow, Okay,

828
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: we have our catcher in the future. That is, relatively speaking,

829
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: like without having a top ten catcher in the game.

830
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: That's an A plus catching situation. I agree with.

831
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: You, that is an A plus catching situation. Like it's

832
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: very similar but might be better than the Jonahian Mitch Garver.

833
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: I think it's better because Logan o'hapy might be the

834
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: best out of all of them, even though we ranked

835
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Jonaheim above because we've done it.

836
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done this and we need to see it

837
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: with o'hapi. But I you know, I started a.

838
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: New podcast with Tucker Davidson Left You for the Angels,

839
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: and he's been talking up a storm, obviously about the Angels.

840
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: That's a that's a podcast that all Angels fans to

841
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: definitely check out. We just had Patrick Sandaval on and

842
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: we're having read Debtmers on the next episode, which should

843
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: come out in the next few days. They rave about

844
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: Logan o'happy. They said he's made in a lab, that

845
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: when you see him walk into the ballpark, he has

846
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: an energy about him that they are in love of

847
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: pitching to this guy, that he is one of these

848
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: young catchers in a crop with a lot of good

849
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: young catchers, all one hundred. Kirk with the Blue is

850
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: now Gobert Marno with the Arizona Diamondbacks. You look at

851
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: Adli Richman and the Orioles Logan o'happy will enter this

852
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 2: type of conversation this year.

853
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's probably the step below Kirk and Adlie. Yeah,

854
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: but those are the best in baseball, right A hell Man,

855
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: I think Kirk is a step below a Yeah. Right, so, yes,

856
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I totally understand that. Ohapi. Again, we talked about how

857
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: thin that position is. I think Ohapi can be a

858
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: top ten catcher in the game at the end of

859
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: this year.

860
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: I think, go to our head, we take a Hoppy

861
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: over him next year, Yes, there you go, and Heim

862
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: was number nine.

863
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: On our catchers. And I'll take Stassy over Garver. Yeah,

864
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: I barely.

865
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 3: I would take Garver.

866
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: He's healthy, but I just can't guarantee. Stassy had a

867
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: horrible horble year and was injured too. I don't know

868
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: if I could take Stassy over Garver. Alright infield for

869
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: the third Jared wallaceh at first, damn but.

870
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: Brand sucked last year. But no way, he's that bad again.

871
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: No, it can't be worse. Jonathan Scope can't be worse.

872
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: Bias can't be worse. Brandon Drew, you bias could be worst.

873
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Brandon Drewy at second, people are raving about him, David

874
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: Fletcher Slash, Renhifo slash Or Schella at short, and then

875
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Rendon at third, outfield left to right, Taylor Ward,

876
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: Mike freaking Trout, Hunter Renfro, and of course the King

877
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Otani as the dh that's good.

878
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: That is a good team, and Brandon Drury. So again,

879
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: I asked Tucker and Patrick Sandoval a guy on the

880
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: Angels that they're watching in spring training that fans need

881
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: to watch out for. Immediately, the answer was Brandon Jury.

882
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: They think he's just gonna continue to hit. We saw

883
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: it in Cincinnati. He went over to San Diego and

884
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: he was arguably better than one Soto and Josh Bell

885
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: in their stints in San Diego. Going over to Los

886
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: Angeles getting that contract, he can be used all over

887
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: and he's gonna hit. And then Hucker's answer after we

888
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: talked about Brendon Jury was Hunter Renfro as a guy.

889
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest Hunter Renfro guy because I don't

890
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: think he adds much value other than home runs. But

891
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: I have to also understand thirty home runs is thirty

892
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: home runs yeah, Like, thirty home runs is thirty home runs?

893
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I understand the appeal there. Yes, here was my favorite

894
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: ped Alonzo take. I was told by a buddy that

895
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo his home runs only come like as solo

896
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: shots when they're down four or up four. I'm like, okay,

897
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: but he hit forty five of them.

898
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's also such a lie because he leve

899
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: the legan or realized he died for the leader.

900
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Right, there's no shot that's crest right. Still like better,

901
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: but that's the Renfro thing. It's like, yeah, he h'its thirty,

902
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: But like, when does he hit those thirty you know

903
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: what I mean?

904
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: Like thirty that's.

905
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 2: Fair, that's fair, that's a fair assessment. I mean gen

906
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Carlo Stanton had the little had that thing for a

907
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: while where it's a Mickey Mouse fifty nine homer season. Yeah,

908
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: not that, but I'm talking about Yeah, I understand that.

909
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: It's like when you're looking at win probability added with

910
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: home runs that matter, he might not stack up there.

911
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: But thirty is thirty.

912
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: But again, that's one of the weaker parts of this

913
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: team is Hunter Renfro could at thirty home runs. Taylor

914
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: Ward could be an All Star, or at least was

915
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: close to one last year. Yeah, Mike trout Is, we're

916
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: seeking an All Baseball class. Yeah, he could be an

917
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: All Star if he's healthy. He's the best player in

918
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: the world, but maybe second to Shoho. Tony's also on

919
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: this team. Rendon in spring training looks great so far.

920
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: If Tony two Bags can can stay healthy, he's one

921
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: of the best third basement in baseball. Brandon Jurry, Jared Walsh,

922
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: Logan Ohapy and then you e her In Hephon or Sell.

923
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: There's no real weaknesses outside of Yeah, it's not great,

924
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: but it's still fine.

925
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't a weakness, but it's more of

926
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: a question mark. I want Joe Adele or Mickey Moniac

927
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: to take over that fourth outfield spot so solidly. Brett Phillips,

928
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: he's fine, he's happy, go lucky. He's a pitcher for them.

929
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: I know I would rather have a Deell or Moniac

930
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: over Brett Phillips if like they can achieve forty percent

931
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: of what they can do.

932
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Adele is so much more talented than monya Ye.

933
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, but like Moniac was a one to one guy,

934
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: so you have to understand that the talent is there,

935
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: and like we saw it in spirit, but even in

936
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: high school, I didn't even the talent.

937
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: But like he was.

938
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: He was fine for you know, a couple months at

939
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: a time last year when he was healthy. But obviously

940
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: that guy went through some really frustrating shit. Adele is

941
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: my dream, Like, dude, get good now, Joe Adell. This

942
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: is last chance. Has to last chance you. Yes, this

943
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: is last chance. I'm not gonna say you, but this

944
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: is this is the last opportunity for Adele. I'll say it.

945
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I get it all right, Rotation, it's good. Otani check

946
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Sandoval, friend of the of the program, kind of

947
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: armbarn check Tyler Anderson. On that three year, thirty nine

948
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. I loved that contract. Check check read

949
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Detmer's massive check, especially with the slider, massive massive check.

950
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: He was a three to seven last year. He was

951
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: far better than that. I think he was close to

952
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: three in the second half after we really started using

953
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: that slider, and then Jose Suarez as a five.

954
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Really cool with They're probably gonna go sixty. They're probably

955
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: gonna have Tucker's the six because of Otani, and a

956
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: lot of people are asking me, And I actually want

957
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: your opinion on this too, because I've been giving people

958
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: my opinion on it and I want to see if

959
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: you agree with it. People are saying Otani to win

960
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: Siung plus twelve hundred, and I think to myself, that's

961
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: great value for him, because Corbyn burns in twenty twenty

962
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: one through like what one hundred and seventy innings one

963
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight and won the cy Young over

964
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: a guy like Zach Wheeler that year. But the thing is,

965
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: I just don't know if the innings are gonna be

966
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: there for Otani to end up winning the cy Young.

967
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: With a crowded field in the American League, I think

968
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: it's much more likely he wins the MVP. But that

969
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he does a bitch to a Sion level.

970
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I just say, when you have

971
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole, when you have McClanahan, when you have Framber,

972
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: when you Luis Castillo, when you have Shane Bieber, when

973
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: you have Mackenzie throwing all those innings, you know, Carlos

974
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: Rodon if he ends up coming back healthy. There's so

975
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: much clutter you mention, Noah, I haven't even mentioned no,

976
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: or Gosman, yeah, or Jiraspusen because he suld say yeah,

977
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: it's there's so many guys like even let's say Chris

978
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: Sale stays healthy all year, it's a very crowded field.

979
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 2: So even a Christian Xavier, right, so you know there's

980
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be tough for him to win sy Young.

981
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: But again, splitting hair is just one of your opinion

982
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: on that.

983
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: What I will say is if if you if you

984
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: think Max Fried, like if you see Max Fried's odds

985
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: to win the NLCY Young and you say like, that's

986
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: something that I want to take, I think you should

987
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: look at Otani in the same way because Freed and

988
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: Otani almost identical last year in terms of production, like

989
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: they were. If you were to compare the value that

990
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: sho Heyotani brought, it looks a lot like what Max

991
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: Fried did last year. So if you truly believe that

992
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: Freed should be, you know, considered to win.

993
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: The NLCS better, Atani is better than Free.

994
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: You you pull up Otani stats, I've got Freed stats. Okay,

995
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: So Max Freed last year for the Atlanta Braves. As

996
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: I buy time for myself here, Max Freed had thirty

997
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: starts okay. Otani had twenty eight one hundred and eighty

998
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: five innings for Freed one sixty six Okay.

999
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: That's that's like why that's the difference.

1000
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: But two four eight ERA for Freed, two three three

1001
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: for Otani, okay, two seven oh FIP for Freed, two

1002
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: four oh for Otani okay, one hundred and seventy punchouts shoho.

1003
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: Tani had two hundred and nineteen okay. Freed walk thirty

1004
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: two guys. Otani walked forty four guys. So Tani is like,

1005
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: I think better.

1006
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: I think I do think.

1007
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: It's slightly Yeah, And if you look at x CRA,

1008
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: if you look at X FIT two, Otani wins there too,

1009
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's worth thinking about it plus

1010
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: twelve hundred.

1011
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: But it's worth thinking about I just it's also like

1012
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: you put.

1013
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: Your hands into the human aspect of this. You put

1014
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: your hands into the vote, or you put your money

1015
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: in the hands of the voters, and like voters, I

1016
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: feel like are more deterred from voting Otani for cy

1017
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: Young because like he is runaway MVP favorite, you know

1018
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1019
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: Because if he pitches well enough to win the Si Young,

1020
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna be an MVP, not the cy Young Like

1021
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: he could win both.

1022
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: I as weird as it sounds, he could win both.

1023
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: I actually think it's harder for Otani to win the

1024
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: cy Young than the MVP.

1025
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: I agree, weird, weird, But we're splitting hairs again because

1026
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: Otani is one of the best pitchers in baseball and

1027
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: the Angels have him at the top of the rotation.

1028
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: When you close your eyes and the good show, Hey Otani,

1029
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: do you see him in the bat or the glove?

1030
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Do I see him? You mean on the mound? Like

1031
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: do you see him on the mound or in the

1032
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: batter's box? On the mound? I see him in the

1033
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: batter's box, which.

1034
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: Is so crazy. I mean, he had a one forty

1035
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: six wrs plus last year.

1036
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: It's weird, Like I don't know, I guess it's just

1037
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: the most talented player of all time, correct, I just

1038
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: I see him every night in the batter's box, And like, yes,

1039
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I watch him for two hours on the mound, but

1040
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: I see him for ten minutes every night in the

1041
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: batters box. But how about Patrick Sandoval still in that rotation?

1042
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Sandoval was fantastic last year, he's working on this slider,

1043
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: which he started throwing much more last year, and he

1044
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: has this bread and butter change up. We saw him

1045
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: dominating the World Baseball Classic against a Team USA lineup

1046
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: that was gunning for his head. And they're a fully

1047
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: right handed lineup. That goes to show, like a guy

1048
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: like Sandoval, you have good stuff. You can get lefties

1049
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: and right he's out and he's got that.

1050
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: Dog in them.

1051
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: Can I just say it's got the dog in him? People?

1052
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: Let me just say, Oh, Tony twenty eight starts a

1053
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: two to three ERA last year, Sandoval twenty seven starts

1054
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: at two NINETYRA last year. Tyler Anderson twenty eight starts

1055
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: a two five seven ERA. So you've got three guys

1056
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: in the front of rotation with at least twenty seven

1057
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: starts and at highest a two NINETYRA. So three guys

1058
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: with a sub three four and five. Denver's twenty five

1059
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: starts a three to seven seven. Jose Suarez twenty starts

1060
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: at three ninety six if you're five, and then Tucker Davidson,

1061
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: obviously we know, can put together a sub four and

1062
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: he can make fifteen to twenty starts start game five

1063
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 1: of the World Series of the Braves world Sitaris Champ,

1064
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: He'll wore a series Champ Tucker Davidson. So like we

1065
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: could be looking at five or six guys that start

1066
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: twenty games and have an ERA under four.

1067
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 2: I asked them a question and they were taken back

1068
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: by it a little bit, and they said that it

1069
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: didn't matter. And I agreed with them because I was

1070
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: reading articles about the Angels rotation and it was very

1071
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: negative about the fact that they have one righty at the.

1072
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: Top followed by five lefties.

1073
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 2: And I asked them about it and they were like, yeah,

1074
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: we have five lefties who pitch really well. Doesn't matter

1075
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: what hand they throw with, And I said no, And

1076
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: I also fought back with them, saying, if it was

1077
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 2: a lefty at the top followed by five righties.

1078
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: No one would say anything. Correct.

1079
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: But it's just the fact that they throw left handed,

1080
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: which shouldn't matter if you can just get out, which.

1081
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: If you're facing the White Sox and if that sucks,

1082
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: But like, it's much different also when your bullpen is

1083
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: all lefties or something, when yeah, but the rotation, all

1084
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: five of those lefties can get outs and then you

1085
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: have showing Otani.

1086
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: This could be. It is a much higher floor than

1087
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 2: the Rangers, and the upside is fantastic. If Tyler Anderson

1088
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: looks like he did on the Dodgers and Sandoval looks

1089
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: like he was last year, and then you still have Otani,

1090
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't even matter what you get from Debt Meurs.

1091
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: But Debt Meurs could be back in that range with

1092
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: Santoval and Tyler Anderson is one of the better lefties

1093
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: in the American League. And then Swarez and Tucker, like

1094
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: those two guys at the bottom of your rotation is great.

1095
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Not to mention, you've got Chase sil Seth who's kind

1096
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: of sitting there as a seven. And Silseth in a

1097
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: brief cameo looked really good. That looked really bad. Then

1098
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: we didn't see him again. So like, I do have

1099
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: faith in the Silseth change up like that that just

1100
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: mastered the world by storm. Yeah, but I mean he

1101
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: was fresh out of college. I understand why that happened.

1102
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: They just lack a true closer like that is the

1103
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: only flaw in this bullpenk because they've got a bunch

1104
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: of seventh inning guys that I feel really good about,

1105
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: really good about it. I feel good about five of

1106
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, Carlos says Toez, I don't feel that

1107
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: good about Jimmy Hurgan. I feel good.

1108
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: You don't feel good about his status.

1109
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: No.

1110
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: On the Rockies he had good he has good stuff,

1111
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: but he's actually he's going to translate well to Los Angeles.

1112
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: He didn't strike out as many guys as I wish

1113
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: he did, and he walked a lot agains.

1114
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: But on the Rockies, whereas stuff, it's like his stuff

1115
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 2: doesn't match up that well to cores and he's still

1116
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: pitched very well. I think he settles in in a

1117
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: much nicer role with the Angels.

1118
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he's y Almante. He's sat ninety eight with his fastball,

1119
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: so it's gonna play regardless, Like you've got a righty

1120
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: sitting ninety eight.

1121
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: Got Jimmy Hrget who who's a completely different look, and

1122
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: the Weird eight. Yeah he's good last year Weirdo.

1123
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: I want you guys to get him on the arm

1124
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: mark because I'm just like, yeah, why do you?

1125
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 3: Why are you the way are you?

1126
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: What's your deal? Man? Question one? What's your deal?

1127
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: Matt Moore t Para.

1128
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Matt Moore was a great free agent pick up. I

1129
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: mean that guy is top starting pitching prospect turned really

1130
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: good starting pitcher turned failed starting pitcher turned really good

1131
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: reliever that had a sub two in seventy four innings

1132
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: last year. And earn Loop is good. Loop was good

1133
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: in twenty one. He was not good last year. But

1134
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: like Andrew wants could be okay, Kihada could be okay.

1135
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: Hime Borea was solid last very good. Like they have

1136
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good players, they just lack a true closer.

1137
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: And to hope that somebody steps up and herget he

1138
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have the fastball to be a true closer.

1139
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't think no.

1140
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: And I think a Stepas is going to be their closer,

1141
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: and I have faith in him.

1142
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: I think he can be a good reliever and even

1143
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: maybe Matt Moore continues dominating, he ends up being a closer.

1144
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: And I give you a name, sure, Ben Joyce. Ben

1145
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: Joyce could be one oh five from Tennessee. Remember him

1146
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: on Pitching Ninja, You remember him?

1147
00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: Could be the guy come all star break. That's what

1148
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: they need.

1149
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, arm and I were talking about, like make one

1150
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: trade of the deadline for a big time closer and

1151
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: bring up Ben Joyce and then we'll look at this

1152
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: bullpen and say, there's a lot of good players here.

1153
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, he makes a lot of sense for Anaheim

1154
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: is Rice Iglesias.

1155
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Angels fans are probably so pissed up hearing that.

1156
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, like, you just extended him. Why moved him?

1157
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: That was a weird That was a weird thing.

1158
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: And the fact that you know, they got Tucker, which

1159
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: was great, but who was the reliever that they got.

1160
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: He's been in the league for.

1161
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: Seventy years, Jesse Chavez and now he's back in the

1162
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Braves or he was back in there. Yeah, like I

1163
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: understand making the move for a starter like Tucker, but yeah,

1164
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: it's n Yeah, and you could have gotten more, Yes, exactly,

1165
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: all right, Seattle, Seattle.

1166
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait before we move on to Seattle, what

1167
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: do you realistically expect from the Angels this here. Let's

1168
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: address that at the end because I'm gonna ask you

1169
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: for predicted over a finish.

1170
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: Okay, catching tandem cal Rally and Tom Murphy, cool with it.

1171
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: Cal Rally's a top ten catcher the game.

1172
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good catching tandem because they have Calroly,

1173
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: Tom Murphy.

1174
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Whatever. I have no problem with the catching tandem because

1175
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: of that starter, which you're exactly right, Ty France will

1176
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: play first. Colton Wong after the trade, will be at

1177
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: second base. That was a great deal they traded from

1178
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: a surplus. JP Crawford will be at short Auhineo Suarez

1179
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: at third, Jared Kelnick in left, Julio Rodriguez in center,

1180
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: Teoscar Hernandez after the deal in right, and you've got

1181
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: a j. Pollock as the DH. The other bench bats

1182
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Dylan Moore, Sam Haggerty, Tommy Listella. This lineup is flawless.

1183
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: I love this team's flawless. I love this team. Where's

1184
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: the weakness?

1185
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: You could say JP Crawford is the weakness, but I

1186
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: call him Dansby. Used to be the average shortstop barometer.

1187
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Then he had that great year and has been playing

1188
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 2: better and better. Now it's JP Crawford. That's the weakest

1189
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: position on your team. They needed a second baseman, who

1190
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: do they go get?

1191
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: Colton Wong?

1192
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: They needed a big bopper in a outfielder who they

1193
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: go get to Oscar Hernanez. And they gave up from

1194
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: areas of strength from that bullpen, from guys like Jesse Winker,

1195
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Auhano Swarz. We're seeing him in the WBC. He still

1196
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: got it. And if Jared Kelnick continues to do what

1197
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: he's been doing in spring training, this team is a

1198
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: World Series contender. I truly believe that the window is

1199
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: fully open GM. Jerry Depoto makes all the right moves.

1200
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: He also makes deadline moves. We saw them make the

1201
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: move for Luis Castillo. And when I look at the offense,

1202
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: there is no weaknesses. It's and then but there's they

1203
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: they have such a high floor, but they have so

1204
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: much upside. Like if Kelnick is that good, Pollock has

1205
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: like this platoon.

1206
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: Bat is great.

1207
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Kelnick has looked awesome in the spring, And yes, Pollock

1208
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: is a platoon bat is great. And they have j

1209
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Rodd and they have Jay Rudd. Sam Haggerty is a

1210
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: great switch hitter to have on the bench. Like I mean,

1211
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Lostella on your bench is great. Listella in the starting

1212
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: lineup is brutal, but Lostella on the bench is solid. Great.

1213
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: He screams bench bat and he's a great bench bat. Yeah,

1214
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: great bitch.

1215
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of like the Robbie Grossman. It's like I,

1216
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: depending on what role you're in, I may love you.

1217
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: I may love you, and I love Tommy the stellon

1218
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: a bench roll.

1219
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah sucks that. Taylor Tremmell is a handmade issue.

1220
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he I feel so bad for him

1221
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: just in general because he's moved teams like six different

1222
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: times and he's just waiting kind of.

1223
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: For his opportunity to see. You're three in Seattle.

1224
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: I think you're a home.

1225
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he deserves to. I hope he stays there. Yeah

1226
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: he won't, Taylor, He'll get dealt for something. Come on, man,

1227
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: buy a home in Kennewick, Washington. Get out to the burbs. Yes, Can,

1228
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: Luis Castillo, Logan, Gilbert George Kirby, Robbie Ray, Marcogans.

1229
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: It is so freaking good. It might be the best

1230
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: in baseball. It is top five.

1231
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Bryce Miller and Emerson Hancock aer on the way.

1232
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I love this rotation. As soon as Miller or Hancock

1233
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: can displace Marco and like Marco gets out. We were

1234
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: just talking about that before we recorded. There was one

1235
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: qualified pitcher with a war under one, and it was

1236
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,479
Speaker 1: Marco Gonzalez, who, in one hundred and eighty three innings

1237
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: struck out one hundred and three guys.

1238
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: And what fifty.

1239
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: This is a fun thought exercise to what we were

1240
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 2: doing pre record name and we won't do it well.

1241
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: This will be for for you to do.

1242
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: After the podcast if you want to homework. Homework the

1243
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: ten pitchers who had what below a one point five war?

1244
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Left below two below qualified starters one hundred and sixty

1245
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: two innings. Name them in your head. Who were this

1246
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: ten starters who had below a two war? Who qualified? Remember,

1247
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: it's very easy for us to just say, yeah, Austin

1248
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Gomber through what one hundred and two innings and like

1249
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: a six cra that's not the answer the question. Guys

1250
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: throw one hundred and six two innings. You have to

1251
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: throw a ton and not accumulate.

1252
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: The war numbers.

1253
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: And Marco Gonzaltz was last, even though that's why war

1254
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: is not a perfect stat for pictures, because it's it's

1255
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: a lot about strikeouts and walks, and he had a

1256
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: four to one.

1257
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: Marco Gonzalz strikes out five guys per nine. He strikes

1258
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: out five. He watched two and a half. But but

1259
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: he gets.

1260
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Out and he's been getting outs and he always outperforms

1261
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: these numbers.

1262
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: And then if.

1263
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't work out, let's say this is fine with

1264
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: the other regresses. You have Chris Chris Flexen, you have

1265
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, you have Emberson Hancock.

1266
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: Potentially it's like.

1267
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: The eighth guy, right and the eighth guy, Emberson Hancock.

1268
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: If he finds what he has, he could be a

1269
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: three four right now. No, he's like a top five

1270
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: caliber pick.

1271
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: He was. He was I think fourth overall, maybe out

1272
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: of Georgia. No, I know he was out of I

1273
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: think it was either fourth or sixth. I think it

1274
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: was sixth. And then the bullpen is top three in baseball.

1275
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: I don't remember a freaking good And they traded Eric

1276
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: Swans because they didn't even need him.

1277
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 1: Seawald, Munos, Castillo, Brash, Penn Murphy got fested like, yeah,

1278
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: how about.

1279
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: They move Brash in the rotation if the world starts

1280
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: to end? Yes, and they can, Yes, And he's been

1281
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: working on this offseason. And but like Diego, Castillo is

1282
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: kind of the underrated bullpen guy. He was a closer

1283
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: because you think about Munos and we think the world

1284
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: of him. Seawald is there, I guess the stats closer

1285
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: at this point because he's awesome.

1286
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: Pen.

1287
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: Murphy's great, But Dio Castillo with the Rays. Was there

1288
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: closer and a very good closer at.

1289
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: That Castillo career three to one era.

1290
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: Guy, really good, great stuff. Remember that deal? What was

1291
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: that deal? The deadline that they made where they got

1292
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo and traded Kendall Graveman and.

1293
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Traded Diego or the Traveman to get Diego Castillo, And

1294
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: everyone was like, what are we doing breaking up the

1295
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: band because Graven was so good and yet Castillo is

1296
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: just like, we got a trust in Jerry. He knows

1297
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: what he's doing, and Graven was gone. Right, Like, they

1298
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: got Castillo for four years, they controlled, Yes, they got

1299
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Castillo for four years. They rented out Graveman to Houston.

1300
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly they got from Houston. Was that

1301
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: Odorezi that they got from Houston? Maybe it's all over

1302
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: my head. Regardless, like they shipped off Kendl Graven and

1303
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: then in a separate deal they got Diego Castillo. Kendall

1304
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: Graven is no longer with the Houston Astros, and Diego

1305
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: cast is still there and still throwing really well, really

1306
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah. So and even the addition of Trevor

1307
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: Gott for the Rowers, he's good too.

1308
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: It is good.

1309
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: So this is I think the second best team in

1310
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: the AL West because it is flawless now, I think, yes,

1311
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: they're the second best team in the American League. Oh

1312
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: I do. I think they're the second best team in

1313
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: the American League. Hear me. I'm getting a call with

1314
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: like a bunch of weird numbers in front of it,

1315
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: and that's Toronto. It's like a Canada thing.

1316
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you and arms super high in Toronto.

1317
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 2: And I'm still like, let's see it the pitch.

1318
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: The Mariners beat the Blue Jays last year in the

1319
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: playoffs and are now better than they were. Yes, and

1320
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: the pitching is objectively stronger for Seattle. My worry is.

1321
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: From top to bottom, from the number one starter down

1322
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: to the last bullpen arm, and they can bang with Toronto.

1323
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 2: They're not gonna have the goudy LPs numbers that probably

1324
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: Toronto has, but it's not that far off.

1325
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: And I bet on pitching. And like in this series

1326
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: like this, let's say it's Gosman, Manoa, and Bassett verse

1327
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: these four like they're winning three of those games. You

1328
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: say from the one and two, like I think I'm

1329
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: taking I think I'm taking I'm taking Manoa and Gosman

1330
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: that tandem over the tandem of Castillo and Gilbert.

1331
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes, but this they faced each other and we already

1332
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: saw the Mariners win, so correct, it's tight.

1333
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm and I.

1334
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: Personally think the rais a bed in the Blue Jays,

1335
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: and I think the Yankees are better than the Blue

1336
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

1337
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: That's we'll talk about it for another day.

1338
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: We have a big projection wind Totals, betting predictions episode

1339
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: coming next week.

1340
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I will lean Manoa Gosman over Castillo Gilbert.

1341
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: But three through five in the rotation, and the entirety

1342
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: of the bullpen, no doubt, in my mind, goes to Seattle,

1343
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: and that's why they have the advantage there.

1344
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Robbie raised your four, yes he want a

1345
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: sign for the Blue.

1346
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Fanais, but he also sucks out. Yeah, you're a hater.

1347
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: Of the and I I get it.

1348
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: But like he is.

1349
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: If he's a three to eight guy who throws one

1350
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: hundred ninety innings with two hundred and twenty strikeouts.

1351
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: He was bad at three seven last year. If your

1352
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: bad arm is three seven, congratulations you have a great

1353
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: bad army. Yeah, we'll talk projections quick at the end,

1354
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: but Houston just flying through. Martin Maldonado and Corey Lee

1355
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: are the catching tandem. Christian Vasque has made them look better.

1356
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: Maldonado obviously is not getting moved. Jim Crane loves Martin Maldonado.

1357
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: I wish the catching tandem was better, but I don't

1358
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: think the Astros.

1359
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: This is the best team in baseball.

1360
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Jose Abrady would first over Juli Garyell is a massive,

1361
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: massive upgrade three year sixteen.

1362
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: Looking at this roster right now as we sit here

1363
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: and I'm on my laptop just looking at it, It's

1364
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: so good.

1365
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. Jose l two Va future Hall of

1366
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: Famer at second, Jeremy Paaneya the World Series MVP at short,

1367
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, who is a perennial All Star candidate at third,

1368
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: Chas McCormick and left likely Jake Myers and center Kyle

1369
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: Tucker in right, Jordan Alvarez as the DH with Michael

1370
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: Brandley on the men right now the bench, Corey Lee,

1371
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: JJ Mattiyevich, David Hensley, who had a really nice start

1372
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: to his Big League.

1373
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 3: Do you see him in the World Series?

1374
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: He was he was started and then Mauricio Dubon as well.

1375
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: The bench leaves some to be desired, but this offense

1376
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: is relentless.

1377
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year they finished as a team seventh in OPS,

1378
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: and I think you can argue they might be better

1379
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: when you slot in Jose Brayu instead of Juli Guriel.

1380
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: You have year two of Jeremy pina chas McCormick only

1381
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: seems to be getting better. You put Michael Brantley back

1382
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: in this lineup two. This feels like while they were

1383
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: one of the best offenses last year, they're even better

1384
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: this year. Like that seventh in OPS, I bet that

1385
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: moves to three or four. And we haven't even gotten

1386
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: to the pitching yet, which is all world. I mean,

1387
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: they are just Jordon's gonna go crazy again, Bregman's gonna

1388
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: go crazy. Tucker it could be a potential MVP candidate.

1389
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: And he hit sixth. He hit sixth in this lineup.

1390
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: He hit sixth for the tmusa lineup.

1391
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: Can I give you a depth name. Yeah, Justin Durdin

1392
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: is a depth name that you should know. He's twenty

1393
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: five years old, kind of like like Enoughing. Nobody knows

1394
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: where he came from. He was a non drafted free agent.

1395
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: I do believe ten games so far in spring training

1396
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: he's five for fifteen with a double, two homers, four

1397
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: walks and six k's and twenty played parents That's a

1398
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred OPS in ten games so far. Durden last

1399
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: year between double and Triple ninety two games in Corpus

1400
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Christy thirty two games in sugar Land, which is the

1401
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: Triple A affiliate, So one hundred and twenty four games.

1402
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: The guy hit three h two with a nine to

1403
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: forty two ops, forty doubles, twenty four homers, one hundred

1404
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: and one driven in twelve for fifteen in the solar

1405
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: past department.

1406
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 3: Where when's his next MVP again?

1407
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: So these guys, they can come out of nowhere sometimes.

1408
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: And everybody fell in love with Mervis, I think justin like,

1409
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I love Nervis.

1410
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not taking anything away from Murray. You're just

1411
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: saying they might have another one of him.

1412
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not saying that like Dirden was better

1413
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: than Nervis, because Nervis was better than Durton last year.

1414
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: But if anybody was, you know, in the same breath

1415
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: as Mervis, where it's come out of nowhere. No one

1416
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 1: saw it as coming. It's Justin Durden. He's proving it

1417
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: in spring training. I think Justin Durden should be get

1418
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: given every chance to make camp here or here. I

1419
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: think Justin Durden should be given every opportunity to make

1420
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: the roster out of camp. In these final two weeks

1421
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: of spring training.

1422
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: Houston Ashers fans another homework consignment, talk to Cubs fans

1423
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: about what they expect from Matt Nervis and say, we

1424
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: have a ninetieth percent outcome of him that we don't

1425
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: we don't expect anything from That's how good the Ashros are.

1426
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: It's a guy like Matt Mervis, who was projected to

1427
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: be a big help for the Cubs this year, hit

1428
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: the ground running, hit a ton of home runs, and

1429
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: the Ashers just have one of those guys just sitting

1430
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: here behind a Jose bray You. It's not a Matt

1431
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: Nervous sitting behind a Trey Mancini or a Eric Cosmer.

1432
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: It's sitting behind a bray You. We look at the

1433
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: DHL right now, it's your on. He could play some left.

1434
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Brandlely and like David Hensley was hitting in

1435
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: the World Series. There is no breaks. You can say, Oh,

1436
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: Martin Maldonado can't hit, Look at me. I'm all smart

1437
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: and I know that he can't hit. It doesn't matter.

1438
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: He is not there to hit. Just put that, put

1439
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: that away. If he goes over next year, I'm pretty

1440
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: sure the ashos won't move off him. He has this

1441
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: special relationship with the pitchers. We see him in the WBC.

1442
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: We see how teammates even around the communication. It is

1443
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: say what you want about him. I know we can't hit,

1444
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: but there's reason guys like Austin Hedges Martin Maldonado continue

1445
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: to get jobs. The catching position defensively is so important,

1446
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: and Martin Maldonado is all worlded.

1447
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 1: It still yes. Rotation from Bert Javier, Luis Garcio Jose

1448
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: or Katy Hunter Brown no notes one weakness or Katy

1449
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: sucks or Keaty does suck, but he was a sub for.

1450
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter because they have it does like

1451
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: he's the five and he is the six if.

1452
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: Because Brown's gonna be great, he just sucks. To see

1453
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: what happened to mccolors.

1454
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: So I was tipped off about this. Shout out Jake Hazen.

1455
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be helping us out on the gambling side.

1456
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: He looked into Luis Garcia because you know how Luis

1457
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Garcia with the with the new pitch clock he's got,

1458
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: he's got a quicker up the wind up right, Louis

1459
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: Garcia with runners on base last year was elite.

1460
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: Why why does that matter? Right?

1461
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: Because he can't do the big bunch. He didn't do

1462
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: the salsa bullshit.

1463
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: So what he's saying, he is betting every single Luis

1464
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Garcia prop to either go over, whether it be strikeouts

1465
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: or e ra a, whether to be go under. It's

1466
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to find edges when it comes

1467
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: to betting. But he is such a believer in Luis

1468
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: Garcia with this wind up change, and he's already looked

1469
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 2: good in spring and he's looked amazing in the World

1470
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: Baseball Classic so far.

1471
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 3: So he's a guy.

1472
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: While we talk about Christian navierre gonna be amazing, we

1473
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: talk about franber Is gonna be amazing, Luis Garcia is

1474
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: a guy that nobody's talking about. And he's already been

1475
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: solid for the Astros. He could develop into one of

1476
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: the better threes too. Like they are just there's nothing

1477
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: else to say. Hunter Brown's gonna be great for them,

1478
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: and they're just so damn good.

1479
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I can't watch Louis s garcias or I couldn't watch

1480
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: Louis Garcia starts because of this Alsa bullshit, and he

1481
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: is the pace of play Satan, but but now has.

1482
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: And it's not like this thirty five year old who's

1483
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: stuck in his waist. He's still really young, like that

1484
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: was his thing. He changes it up, and the numbers

1485
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: say he's better when he changes it up.

1486
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: And now that he had to change it up, he

1487
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: is a lot more watchable. And I'm excited to watch Louis.

1488
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: Have you seen him in the WBC looks? Man, I'm

1489
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: gonna be tuned in to at least part of every

1490
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: fromber Javier Garcia and Hunter Brown start.

1491
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to watch the Astros every day?

1492
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean they're just sifter katy starts, but like, I

1493
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: don't even know how many starts are Key's gonna have.

1494
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is the Astros probably know, all right,

1495
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: we gotta hit today, we got to turn it on.

1496
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna win an eight six game, and they'll win

1497
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 2: that game like her, Katy probably finishes with a twelve

1498
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: and seven record, Like it won't matter to compare pitchers,

1499
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: but it's just he'll probably end up with the good

1500
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: record is there is gonna be four to five, but

1501
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna win games when.

1502
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: He pitches, right.

1503
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then because then the bullpen, let just get

1504
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: five out of her, Kety, he gives up three runs

1505
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 2: in five, no runs are gonna be scored from the bullpen,

1506
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 2: and the Ashes are gonna put up seven themselves.

1507
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. And it's best bullpen in baseball. It's

1508
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: best bullpen in baseball. He already ranked the best bullpen

1509
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: in baseball. Presley Montero, Brian Obrey, Ryan Stanek, Hector Naris

1510
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: film May time, Like I was watching Narris pitch in

1511
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: the WBC and I was like, oh, man, like I

1512
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: kind of forget where Hector Naris is and I look

1513
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: it up and I'm like, oh my god, he's like

1514
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: the eighth option for the frickin' Astro's the fifth inning

1515
01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: guy for the Astro.

1516
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 2: Ryan Stanek didn't pitch in the playoffs last year and

1517
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 2: finished the year with a one one five.

1518
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not fair. Fifty four innings.

1519
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: They got Raffael Montero from the Mets, who sucked, and

1520
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: then now he's They sent him to a three year extension.

1521
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: The Houston Ashros, who they don't even have that much

1522
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: money and they're so strategic without they use it, gave

1523
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: Rafael Montero a three year deal.

1524
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: At first I hated it, but then I'm realizing, who

1525
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: am I to hate it if he's gonna be amazing, right.

1526
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: And Brian Abray, he gave up no. Eleven innings, four hits,

1527
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: nineteen k's in the playoffs, one nine during the regular

1528
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: season ninety eight.

1529
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: They're if you guys were watching Puerto Rico in the

1530
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: DR on Wednesday night, you saw Brian Abray, you make

1531
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: havee Bias his bitch like it was Shane. It was

1532
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: it was like, how do you beat Hobby Bias?

1533
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: Slider aloon and away Brian braids the perfect measure to

1534
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 2: get out of you.

1535
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: Ye, he just kept on ripping it. It was like,

1536
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm doing right now. Like I'm

1537
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: sure he could have trash talk and been like slider low,

1538
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: don't swing, and Bias still would have swung. And like

1539
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: that was a dominating a bat from Briana Brady. So yeah, man,

1540
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: I mean, like, no flaws on this team projected order

1541
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: a finish go.

1542
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 2: I think the Astros won one hundred plus again. I

1543
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: think the Mariners win ninety five. I think the Angels

1544
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 2: win between eighty eight to ninety. I'm very high on

1545
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: the Angels. I know I'm high on the Angels every year,

1546
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: but this year feels different. I'm speaking with Tucker, you know,

1547
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: once a week and texting back and forth asking him

1548
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 2: about players. Everybody looks good and that's all it takes

1549
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: for the Angels is everybody to look good if they

1550
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: stay healthy. They have a very good team the Rangers.

1551
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 2: The more we talk about it, the more I'm down

1552
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,520
Speaker 2: on them that I thought maybe even going into this episode,

1553
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a seventy five win team and the

1554
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: A's will be lucky to crack sixty. I think it's

1555
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: gonna be the exact same standings as it was last year,

1556
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 2: but with improvements from the Mariners and the Angels, mild

1557
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: improvements for the Rain, and a worst year for the

1558
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: Angels or the A's than last year. So those six

1559
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: wins that the Ashers won, I think they're down to

1560
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 2: one hundred. But with that said, because how are you

1561
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: going to replicate Verlanders one seventy five. You're not going

1562
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So I think they still want

1563
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: one hundred. They're the best team in baseball. But those

1564
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: six wins, like three of them, give them to the

1565
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: Marite three of them, give them to the Angels, and

1566
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: I would and then take two away from the A's

1567
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: and give them. But they're gonna obviously with the schedule

1568
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: changes they're gonna be facing different teams now. The Angels

1569
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: don't have to face the Ashers all that much. The

1570
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: Marriagers don't have to face the Ashers all the time.

1571
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: I think that we're going to see a crazy wild

1572
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: card set up.

1573
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: I think this might be not the best division in baseball,

1574
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: but clubs.

1575
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: I think the NL East is going to be slightly better. Yes,

1576
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: I think the AL East is probably better too, But

1577
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be you know, I

1578
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: think it's better than the L West. Yeah, yeah, because

1579
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: there are two great teams in the West, and they're

1580
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: like San Francisco, man, yeah, on an exciting bit, man, yeah, man,

1581
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one from the AL Central

1582
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: and I do think it's gonna be two from the

1583
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: Al East and two from the Ale West. I'm gonna

1584
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:14,440
Speaker 1: go exact same water. I'm gonna go Houston, Seattle, Anaheim, Texas, Oakland.

1585
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: Oakland is the worst record in baseball, Like I can

1586
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: see like fifty five wins there, I really could, but

1587
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: tech now, knowing the A's, they'll probably win like seventy. Correct.

1588
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: My only worry. The only thing that makes me think

1589
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: that the Angels can finish second in Seattle third is

1590
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: if the injury bug strikes the Mariners. They don't have

1591
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: much offensive depth at all, Like yeah, at all. They've

1592
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: got Haggarty and Dylan Moore and Listella, but how much

1593
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: does that get you to replace these guys? You know

1594
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like if Suarez fingers crossed the thing

1595
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: is happen.

1596
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: Look at their team right now, who's injury prone?

1597
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't like doing that because anybody can get into

1598
01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: you're right.

1599
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: You're right, but it's it's it's different when you have

1600
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: guys with history of injury concerns and you need the depth, of.

1601
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: Course, but like say cal Rawley takes a ball off

1602
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: his thumb, what happens? Then, Yeah, it's the Tom Murphy Show,

1603
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: which sucks. That does suck. If au Hanneo Suarez like

1604
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: it's hit in the hand, what happens.

1605
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: Then you move Listella into the infield. Yeah, I mean

1606
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: it's you know what I mean, there are problems. The

1607
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: depth goes away. That's a good point. So that's my

1608
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: old Yeah, fucking who is who was David Hensley?

1609
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: Justin Durden is the second most famous Durden in human history.

1610
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: Tyler Durden shout out fight Club the most famous Durden

1611
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: in human history. But yeah, man, I'm slightly slightly worried

1612
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: about the depth. But I think that Seattle's pitching is

1613
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: a lot better than Anaheim's pitching. And I think Anaheim's

1614
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: pitching is good. I just think Seattle's is, you know,

1615
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: top five, top three in baseball when you combine rotation

1616
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: and bullpen. So yeah, I go with the same look

1617
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: real quick before we wrap the Edwin DS thing. He's

1618
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: out for the entire year. He tore his pateller tendon

1619
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: in his knee. That's surgery. It's looking like he's out

1620
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: for the year. Per passing. I don't like it sucks,

1621
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: and you know we're not gonna get into the WBC

1622
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: is a fake ass tournament. It's not a fakes turn.

1623
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: Dumbest take I've ever seen it. You see people like

1624
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 2: ripping the World Baseball Classic. They are they either don't

1625
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 2: really care about baseball, they just liked the Mets or

1626
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: the form of the game.

1627
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: It's amazing game.

1628
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: This is and I said at the beginning when we

1629
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 2: were doing a World Baseball Class preview, I was like,

1630
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: this might be the best baseball that we see all year.

1631
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: The atmosphere is incredible. You guys were in like it

1632
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: was you and arm But I can see it on TV.

1633
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: It looks like the place is buzzing for pool play games.

1634
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: Imagine in the quarterfinals on the Semis, and it like

1635
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: we've seen Kendricks Morales stomp on home plate after a

1636
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: home run, tears ACL, We've seen Paul Jo Temusa Scrimmage

1637
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: break his leg. These things happen. They are freak. You

1638
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: can't blame an entire tournament. It happens, right every time

1639
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: you go play a sport. You you know that an

1640
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: injury is possible.

1641
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: You know that.

1642
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: But for to hate the entire World Baseball Classic because

1643
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz had a freak injury while celebrating. I get it.

1644
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: You're upset right now. If you're a Mets fan, I

1645
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: can hear you. I see you. It's upsetting. It's okay

1646
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: to say like, oh, the Mets season is ruined and

1647
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: all that, and it's like that.

1648
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: But it's not though. That's the thing with the Mets.

1649
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: He's like they're still loaded, you know, Steve Cohen with

1650
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: his but if a player was gonna get injured, the

1651
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: team with an owner that's worth twenty billion dollars is

1652
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: maybe the one who had happened to Yes, But also

1653
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I understand the frustration and let

1654
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: it out there like fuck us, you know, like yeah,

1655
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: I get that angst, like.

1656
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a white Sox guy like Luis Robert gets

1657
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: he tears his AC for Cuba in the WBC Suck

1658
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 2: Yankee fan Glabor Torres tears his ACL with so say

1659
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: fuck us, don't say fuck The WBC agreed that it's

1660
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 2: not fair to anybody because I don't think you understand,

1661
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: and like we can only understand by talking to some

1662
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: of these guys, like we've both been lucky enough. You

1663
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: talked to Patrick Sanderbal on a separate podcast on our network.

1664
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: I talked to Rob's Stris and who started that game

1665
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: for Canada on a separate network or on the same

1666
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: network on a separate show. Yes, we're together because I'm

1667
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: working out my contract. That's like pretty brutal, but no,

1668
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean like we're in a lifetime contract.

1669
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking to these guys and it's just obvious

1670
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: how meaningful it is to throw for their country. So like,

1671
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: don't shit on Edwin Diaz for choosing to throw for

1672
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: his country. That's just mean and it's not fair.

1673
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: And he's also twenty eight years old. The career is

1674
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: not over. He'll be out for this season. He's gonna

1675
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: come back here one hundred and two with the slider

1676
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: and the rumpets, and it's gonna be like, remember that

1677
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 2: shitty thing that happened, don't.

1678
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: Blame the WBC.

1679
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 2: We're about to watch some of the best baseball that

1680
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: we're gonna see all year and for the next couple

1681
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: of years. Because if I'm seeing Puerto Rico versus Dominican

1682
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: Republican pool play and like decibel records are being broken

1683
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: in pool play, Yeah, imagine what the quarterfinals are gonna be.

1684
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: Mexico Venezuela, Japan. In those games, the atmosphere is gonna

1685
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: be nuts. Cuba y in Miami.

1686
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: The first time the Cuban professional team has ever played. Oh,

1687
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: I cannot wait u and and Moncott is gonna strike

1688
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: out three times? Yes, we already, Like, don't worry everybody.

1689
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: I had the white Sax fan, but the Cuba's gonna

1690
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: pitch for guys. I've never heard of that third idea, Yes,

1691
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: exactly in Japan and all that stuff. So yeah, man, Like,

1692
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear anybody say fuck the

1693
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: WBC because regardless of how electric Mets Braves could be

1694
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: with Edwin Diaz coming out for the night, I understand

1695
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: that is like the most electric environment in Major League Baseball.

1696
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: I don't believe that does more for baseball than the

1697
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. Agree. I think the the WBC, more

1698
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: so than like the World Series, honestly in recent years,

1699
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: is the most meaningful thing to grow the game because

1700
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: it's so exciting and this is like the perfect, the

1701
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: perfect thing to you know, funnel into new baseball with

1702
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: the pitch clock. This was make or break for Major

1703
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: League Baseball. Having the WBC right now go into a

1704
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 1: better product with the shift rules and the pitch clock rules,

1705
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: I think is like the perfect chance for Major League

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01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: Baseball to like recapture an audience. And you don't do

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: that without the best players playing in the World Baseball

1708
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 1: Clay Japan VERSUS Korea. Half the TVs forty six percent

1709
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: of tea of households in Japan were tuned into that game.

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: Think about Shoyo Tani is now at three million Instagram followers.

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01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: I think he's gained a million since the WBC as

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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: a newt bar went up like two.

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Speaker 2: Jared Kerrab has actually had a really funny tweet. It's like,

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: who are these people just now finding out about showing

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01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: on TONI imagine if you didn't really know baseball and

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01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: he just turned on the TV. It's like, this guy's

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01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: pitching it hitting, this guy's crazy. Yeah, So did I

1718
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: mention he's fast? Yes, he's really fast. All right, that's Peter.

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01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm jack Happy weekending. Everybody we're going to be at

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01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: both the quarters.

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: Stay locked on all the social media's for live coverage

1722
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: and you know, just like good edited video coverage if

1723
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic and get yourself some just baseball merch.

1724
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm rocking the tea. Jack's not a company man. We're

1725
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 2: working out his contract.

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01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: I get it. He's on a holdout, fucking hate.

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Speaker 2: What I would suggest is clicking on the link tree

1728
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: in our episode description. That's all the different types of podcasts,

1729
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: just college hoops, just basketball. If you're getting bored of

1730
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: the baseball stuff, but you better not be, because this is

1731
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: just baseball and I'm having a blast. But we're talking

1732
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: WBC stuff. We're going to continue talking about it so

1733
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: much social stuff. We'll be doing, you know, in game,

1734
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 2: not in game interviews. I wish it in game interviews.

1735
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking about in the game with fans as well

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: as we'll be in the press box. We're credentialed, which

1737
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: is a great thing for us over here, just baseball media,

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01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 2: very whole career milestone for us, a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of exciting stuff. Stay tuned in with that. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: nob