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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. We've been breaking down

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Speaker 2: the latest story from up in New York City where

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Speaker 2: a forty time arrested individual was put in a choke

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Speaker 2: hold after behaving in a threatening manner and BLM is

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Speaker 2: up in arms over that. We will continue to update

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Speaker 2: you on that story as it plays out. So far,

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Speaker 2: da Alvin Bragg has not come in and we played

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Speaker 2: the comments from the Mayor of New York and we

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Speaker 2: will continue Eric Adams to update you on that as

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Speaker 2: it plays out. But we also want to continue to

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Speaker 2: tell you this story.

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Speaker 3: Bud Light is.

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Speaker 2: Under siege unlike any brand I can remember in recent history.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, Buck, if you can remember a brand that

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Speaker 2: has had basically two months now.

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Speaker 3: Like this, and if you recall.

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Speaker 2: This all started when they sent a transgender influencer a

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Speaker 2: bud Light can with his slash her face on it

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Speaker 2: to honor her on her one year of womanhood as

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament was going on. She he posted the

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Speaker 2: video and it immediately unleashed a title wave on bud Light,

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Speaker 2: and I grabbed this. This was in the Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal yesterday, Buck and I screenshoted this because I can't

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Speaker 2: remember ever seeing anything like this happen. Yesterday's New York

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Speaker 2: Times that they had a graph weekly retail store dollar

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Speaker 2: sales in the US change from a year earlier. Bud

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Speaker 2: Light is down twenty one point four percent. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at this chart, it is staggering. I'll show you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like to look at it. And it's not

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Speaker 2: only that bud Light is down. People aren't suddenly abandoning beer.

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Speaker 2: Miller Light and Core's Light are both up twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: And the story said, there is no comparison like this

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Speaker 2: that has ever been seen where a brand. Remember bud

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Speaker 2: Light cores like Miller lt They've been battling for market

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Speaker 2: share for all of our lives. And suddenly bud Light

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Speaker 2: has lost over twenty percent of its market share, while

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Speaker 2: Core's Light and Miller Lite are surging.

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Speaker 3: And it's become such an issue. But everybody out there

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Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this is not going to be a

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Speaker 3: big deal. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 2: It's become such a big issue that, remember, Budweiser is

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Speaker 2: now owned by a Brazilian company, and they had their earnings,

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Speaker 2: I believe. Yesterday buck and the CEO of Anheuser Busch InBev,

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Speaker 2: this is a Brazilian guy, talked about the calamity that

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Speaker 2: has befallen bud Light. Since so many of you out

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Speaker 2: there listening to us right now, just said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'll change my beer.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he said yesterday.

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Speaker 4: This was the result of one camp. It was not

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Speaker 4: made for production or sale to general republic. It was

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Speaker 4: one post, not a formal campaign or advertisement.

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Speaker 2: So, Bucket, when you get to the point where the

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Speaker 2: CEO of a company this large is commenting on one

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Speaker 2: marketing decision, this is a disaster the likes of which

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Speaker 2: we have not seen in branding in a very, very

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 1: I had tip the New York Post on the headline

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Speaker 1: for this story right now, beer and loathing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's very good. They do very headlines.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Clay, It's interesting to see that this is a

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Speaker 1: situation where the people who are pushing the boycott and

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Speaker 1: that the people who are taking action are really just

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Speaker 1: the beer driggers. Yeah, it's it's the customer base what

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Speaker 1: you usually see and what the left really perfected and

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Speaker 1: unfortunately you used to do very well, really weaponized for

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Speaker 1: a while was using social media to create the perception

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Speaker 1: sponsors of anybody who was on the right and hope

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Speaker 1: the sponsors would panic before they actually even saw Does

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Speaker 1: anyone care? Is anyone who buys the product that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about not going to because you.

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Speaker 3: Know the answer is almost always yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because the conservative person said only women can get pregnant? Like,

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Speaker 1: is this really going to mean that you can no longer,

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Speaker 1: don't think so. But they did this for a while.

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Speaker 1: Now it's people have realized more. It's harder for me

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Speaker 3: This is different.

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Speaker 1: This is the people that are the actual customer base

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Speaker 1: of bud Light who are saying enough is enough. And

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Speaker 1: I think this is something that will send That is

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Speaker 1: sending a message to a lot of other companies now

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Speaker 1: because the customer base that just believes in traditional America

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Speaker 1: if you make decisions this is not a hard decision,

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Speaker 1: by the way, right, I'm not not trying to cast

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Speaker 1: aspersions on the beer industry, but to me and I

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Speaker 1: can't drink beer anymore because I have Celia disease, but.

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Speaker 3: I love beer and they drink it free beer.

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Speaker 1: And yes, Clay likes beer, but you know, beer tastes

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Speaker 1: like beer. Like if I told somebody who's a Heinneken

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Speaker 1: they even do?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying this for a long time. I don't

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Speaker 2: think the average person. And the wine people got mad

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Speaker 2: I don't think the average person can tell the difference.

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Speaker 2: If you're at a baseball game and you ask for

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Speaker 2: a Bud light and they bring you a Miller light instead,

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Speaker 2: or you asked for a Cores light, I don't think

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Speaker 2: the average person on a taste test could tell the difference.

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Speaker 3: No way by the.

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Speaker 2: Average person, I understand some of you out there like

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Speaker 2: I'm the greatest beer drinker of all time and I

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Speaker 2: can tell a huge difference. I think if you're having

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Speaker 2: know the difference. If somebody brings you again, not with

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Speaker 2: an Amstell light, or like.

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Speaker 1: Some of those things like that's like you know, a

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing is And that's why I thought that

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Speaker 1: aren't stopping drinking beer. They're just saying, hey, when I

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Speaker 1: cors Light or Miller Light. And I cannot even imagine

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Speaker 1: if you are a Budweiser distributor right now. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are people driving trucks around right now who'd

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Speaker 1: listen to us and work it Anheuser distributorships because you

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Speaker 1: one rule of marketing is it should be don't f up.

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Speaker 1: Don't give people a reason to hate your brand. Because

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Speaker 1: you've spent what billions of dollars to build up the

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Speaker 1: bud Light brand, and with one advertisement you now have

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Speaker 1: torpedoed that. Now they're saying, buck, They're going to spend

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Speaker 1: But the way that they're doing it now is so transparently.

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Speaker 1: They had a country music song and they put the

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Speaker 2: You know, you got a guy in wrangler jeans dancing

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Speaker 2: around talking about how much he loves bud Light while

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Speaker 2: the position where it's so transparent what they're trying to

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Speaker 2: do that they're gonna get ridiculed on that side too.

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a lesson that

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Speaker 2: what not to do.

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Speaker 1: But it's also so obvious, right, I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: If you're trying to pick.

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Speaker 1: The thing is They finally went after a brand with

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Speaker 3: A lot of people people have been saying, oh, but what.

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Speaker 1: About They've done a Dylan Malveny campaign, a lot of libs.

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Speaker 2: Buy a lot of Nikes, super woke young people are there.

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Speaker 2: Found that that doesn't work as well.

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Speaker 1: Coacht Nike can do first of all Nike's you know,

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Speaker 2: Filling also talking a good point on Nike. They abandoned

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Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick really quick. They didn't release a Colin Kaepernick shoe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's fine. They they finally, you know, crossed.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to have to worry about who's making

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Speaker 1: But you're all in it now, meaning you know yes.

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Speaker 1: So there are some companies that choose not to be

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Speaker 3: If you keep supporting them, they.

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Speaker 1: Have more reach for more ads that spit in the

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Speaker 1: I mean we were talking about bud Light, Disney. I

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Speaker 1: you don't get to have the Dei suite. Just make

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Speaker 1: Speaking of keeping the heat on, talk about Anheuser Busch

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Speaker 3: How are you going to keep the heat on your food?

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Speaker 2: Travis, Buck Sexton show. A lot of you want to

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Speaker 2: take some of your calls. It also just feels like

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Speaker 2: This is a great email from one of our VIPs.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like Joe who just emailed this, there

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Speaker 5: Hey man, I absolutely think we should keep the heat on,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to end up like that. And that's

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Speaker 5: the only way that we right the ship. If we

437
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 5: just let them up too. Earlsgo go, oh, we'll just

438
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 5: wait them out and it'll be fine.

439
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Speaker 3: This is thanks for the call, Buck.

440
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Speaker 2: This is the most successful conservative boycott of a brand.

441
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: Tell me if you can think of one that's even close. Nothing,

442
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: nothing like this before.

443
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: And and I just think, look, if one thing would

444
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Speaker 1: be interesting to play. Okay, you're the you're the CEO.

445
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: Let's say you're the CEO of Vannheuser Busch in BEV. Yep,

446
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: now he's this Brazilian guy whatever. But let let's let's

447
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 1: say you're an American base. Let's say you're the American. You're

448
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: the American CEO, right, so, so the the guy out

449
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: of Saint Louis Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think at this

450
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: point what you do is, you know, you put us

451
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 1: saving for everybody just says we, uh, you know, we

452
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: love our brand, we love our customers, and we just

453
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Speaker 1: want to serve you great beer. And this was obviously

454
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Speaker 1: a mistake, This will never happen again, will be cognizant

455
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Speaker 1: going forward to the kind of values.

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Speaker 3: You know.

457
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Speaker 1: I think honesty in this would be a better move

458
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Speaker 1: for them.

459
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Speaker 3: Then, Oh it wasn't outside at it. We didn't even know.

460
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 3: This came out of nowhere.

461
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Speaker 1: I mean, aren't there mulveny cans, Like there's bud light

462
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: Mulveny cans. This wasn't some intern who was operating the

463
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: Twitter account for five minutes who made a mistake. So

464
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 1: I think it they'd be much better off if they

465
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Speaker 1: would just come forward and say we messed up, maybe even.

466
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Speaker 3: Use a different word. We won't do it again.

467
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Speaker 1: We are sorry, and you know we take responsibility here

468
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Speaker 1: and going forward, you can trust that this brand is

469
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Speaker 1: going to represent traditional Americana and stick to making.

470
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Speaker 3: Not so expensive a watery beer.

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Speaker 2: I just say, I think the challenge they would run

472
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Speaker 2: into then is then they get attacked on the left aggressively.

473
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Speaker 2: If I were advising them at this point, I would say,

474
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Speaker 2: and I'm not just saying this because of our show,

475
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: I would say, you need to go out and actively

476
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Speaker 2: spend money with people on the right.

477
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Speaker 3: You remember out back in the.

478
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Speaker 2: Day Jesse Jackson had whatever it was, the Rainbow Coalition,

479
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: and the Rainbow Coalition was basically insurance against being called racist.

480
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Like remember they would show up and they would boycott

481
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Speaker 2: and they would protest.

482
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Speaker 1: And then yeah, it was it was almost like a

483
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Speaker 1: racketeering operation. It was like it was like paying protection money.

484
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: It's like, you bet you better pay them and have

485
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Speaker 1: them show.

486
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Speaker 3: We're going to call you racist. YEP.

487
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Speaker 2: I almost think that bud Light has to do that

488
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Speaker 2: with conservative media now, meaning you go out and you

489
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: sponsor Sean Hannity's TV show on Fox News, and you

490
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: should be the presenting sponsor for several months of Clay

491
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: and Buck, and you should go out to OutKick and

492
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: be like, hey, we want to be the beer of

493
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: out Like all of the people that you have insulted,

494
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Speaker 2: I think you have to go back and market directly

495
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: to them, But I don't think you publicly apologize. I

496
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: think you just open up your pocketbook and spend in

497
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: a way that reflects who actually consumes your product, and

498
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: you stop worrying about trying to appeal to people who

499
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: will never drink your beer. Right, if you watch football,

500
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: you'll probably drink a bud Light that's who you should

501
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: be advertising to. You shouldn't be trying to advertise to

502
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: a community by and large that even if they started,

503
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: like if even imagine Buck, Imagine if people watch the

504
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: Dylan mulvany clip and every trans person in America suddenly said, man,

505
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: I love bud Light. I'm only gonna drink bud Light. Now,

506
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: what do you increase your sales by zero point one percent?

507
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 3: Right?

508
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean the market that they're trying to Playcate is

509
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: almost nonexistent, and in so doing they're alienating their base.

510
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Speaker 2: It's one of the worst decisions I've ever seen Saint Louis. Chris,

511
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: appreciate all the people listening in Saint Louis, the home

512
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Speaker 2: of Anheuser Busch.

513
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Speaker 3: How is this playing there? Chris?

514
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I totally agree with you, guys. It's like we

515
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 6: need to keep hammering them, make an example. It was

516
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: like that you don't do this. It's like they've they've

517
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 6: mainly made this more of a political thing, even though

518
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 6: they're trying to backtrack now and say, oh, we didn't

519
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 6: try to do anything like that, you guys. I mean

520
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: when when they first for soold the MBV, It's like

521
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 6: a lot of us weren't happy about it, and I

522
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 6: actually stopped drinking a little bit. I started drinking other

523
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: products then not I mean, I still drink my butt

524
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 6: light every once in a while, but after this mess,

525
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 6: I'm totally done. I mean, I am not drinking.

526
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you raised a really interesting point too.

527
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: And this also, uh, thank you for calling in. And

528
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: this also goes to what Clay was saying, how long

529
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: before people, you know, just the notion like like for

530
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: the next few months. If I'm out with Clay and

531
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Speaker 1: he's drinking a beer and he just asked the bart

532
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: hen and just give me whatever you have on tap,

533
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden a bud light shows up

534
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: or something, right, it comes in a bud light glass.

535
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a joke to Clay.

536
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: Last hid at dinner, one of our advertisers, when I

537
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: ordered a beer, was like, oh, you sure you don't

538
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: want to bud light. I said that, you said that.

539
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was one of the efforts with me

540
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: you were making. You were making.

541
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the I knew I

542
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: was being made fun of.

543
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: To your point, how many guys out there when you

544
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: sit down with your buddies at the bar are making

545
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: that joke you.

546
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Don't want to bud light or.

547
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: You know, if you're out with your buddies and like

548
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: one of the mess tog you know, is like, oh man,

549
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: the wife says, I got to get home early.

550
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: Whatever.

551
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: They're like, we got a bud Light drink for a long.

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: It's like this has kind of become a punchline for

553
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: people too. And I just wonder how long that lasts,

554
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: how long that continues on Laurie in Asheville, North Carolina,

555
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: which is a place that's going through some communist madness.

556
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 5: What's going on, Laurie, Oh, I'm not over here in Ashville?

557
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: How are you?

558
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: We're good? Well? You think we keep the heat on

559
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: with bud Light, Absolutely, keep the heat on, absolutely, because

560
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: I think it's about time the conservatives of.

561
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: Making a stand, you know, and.

562
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 6: Something, and we need to keep making a stand and.

563
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: Maybe this will start a trend that we could make

564
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: a stand and and other things and just stand up against.

565
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: These people, you know.

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Speaker 3: I agree. Thank you for the call, Laurie.

567
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: I think it's the brushback pitch value is strong here

568
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: because I guarantee you bud Light is panicked. But how

569
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: many other brands out there, Buck are having secret meetings

570
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: where they're.

571
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Like, do not do this right?

572
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: If you run a brand that is appealing to seventy

573
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: percent men. Let's say, if you are running and I'm

574
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: just talking bass Pro Shops, if you own brat bass

575
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: Pro Shops, I bet seventy percent of their population is male.

576
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: I bet it's a very similar overlap. I'm guessing with

577
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: bud Light. If I ran bass Pro Shops, I would

578
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: be sitting down in front of my marketing team and

579
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: I'd be i would be like listening here, and There'd

580
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: probably be a bunch of expletives. I'd better not wake

581
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: up one morning and find out that you knuckleheads have

582
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: lit our brand on fire by deciding to go after

583
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: people who are never going to shop in our place

584
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: in the first place. And this is I bet there

585
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: are brands Cracker Barrel, whoever they are, like.

586
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: Whoever the brands are.

587
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: If you did like a float chart and you and

588
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: you thought to yourself, Okay, if you drink bud Light,

589
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: you probably shop waar Walmart. You probably eat and I'm

590
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: just sketching out here, probably eat at Applebee's and Cracker

591
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Barrel and like I would say, if you make those decisions,

592
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: they are lighting themselves on fire. We better not do it.

593
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: Mac.

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00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: By the way, in North Branford, Connecticut, what you got

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: for us?

596
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 7: Hi actually Branford, Connecticut. But I'm just I'm just wondering,

597
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 7: is the obviously the bud Light problem, but as Budweiser,

598
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 7: is that going through all the other brands, it's still

599
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 7: the same company and are they getting a reflection on sale?

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00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: That's good, that's a good question because they own a

601
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different brands, and so if

602
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: somebody's switching from bud Light to Stella Artois, guess what

603
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: money's going to the same company. That's a good question, Mike.

604
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, we'll look into that a little bit. Appreciate you.

605
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: The data, by the way, Bucks shows that they're going

606
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: to Miller Lite and course like, so they're not staying

607
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: inside the same brand.

608
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: There you go. Clay had the answer ready for you.

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00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of folks out there, this

610
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: is what range day is like. You go to the range.

611
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen this, saw this last time I

612
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: was out there. You go to the range, you're you're

613
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: in a line of people and you're shooting. You know,

614
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: you you pop off a few rounds. You know, the

615
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: range instructor says, all right, everybody, go get your targets

616
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. Are you getting any better? I mean, really

617
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: ask yourself this when you go shooting. Do you want

618
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: to get better? Do you want to improve your skills?

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00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if the answer is yes, if you want

620
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: better shooting mechanics, you want to enjoy shooting more because

621
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: you're refining your skill set, becoming more confident with your shooting.

622
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: You've got to check out the Mantus X system. I've

623
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: got a mantis X at home. It comes, it's in

624
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: a little pouch. It's so straightforward. You set it up,

625
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: you put it on your existing farm, you put it

626
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: on your on your side arm, and you download the app.

627
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: And what it will do is give give you data

628
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: based on your technique. It's fire practice. This data will

629
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: tell you are you pulling down left when you shoot?

630
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: How is your trigger pull? Are you steady on it?

631
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: Dry?

632
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: Fire practice at home, we're at the range is the

633
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: best way to get better without spending a lot of

634
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: money on Ammo. By the way, so I do this

635
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: in home. I sit in my chair in my office.

636
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I set up with my MANTISX system. I've got my

637
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: side arm, I attach it right to it, and I

638
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: get better at shooting. So now I want to go

639
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: to the range. Guess what My target grouping is better,

640
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: my basic shooting mechanics improve. It's all data driven. I'll

641
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: give you a score out of one hundred. Get a

642
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: Mantis X system for yourself. It attaches to your firearm

643
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: just like a weapon light. It's so straightforward and about

644
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: ninety four percent of shooters get better just from using

645
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: this one time. You're gonna improve a little bit, and

646
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: the more you use it, the better you get. You're

647
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna see this for yourself and you go out to

648
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the range, so you know, look, I'm all about it

649
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: getting out there to the range when you can. But

650
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: if you want to be getting better, if you want

651
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: to be improving your skill as somebody, as as a marksman, guy, girl,

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Speaker 1: That's the website you go to get yourself a MANTISX

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Speaker 1: system then, and by the way, it's a great gift

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Speaker 1: for people too. If you know somebody who's big into

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, this is gonna help them. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're not trying to pick Getting a firearm can be

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Speaker 1: more complicated. You're not trying to pick out a firearm

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Speaker 1: for them. Get them a Mantis X system. They can

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Speaker 1: attach it to their existing firearm and improve their skills.

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Speaker 1: It's m A and TI s x dot com. You

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Speaker 1: don't know what's you don't know right, but you could.

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Speaker 2: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: In the next hour, we're gonna talk to you about

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the border and what expectations are

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Speaker 1: for next week. When we're coming up on the end

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Speaker 1: of title forty two, there's already journalists who are getting

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Speaker 1: to get out in the field and show everybody how.

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Speaker 3: Crazy things are going to get down there.

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Speaker 1: Mayor Eric Adams of New York, for one, is essentially

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Speaker 1: begging publicly to not have any more migrants sent to

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Speaker 1: his city, which is so strange because all migrants do

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Speaker 1: is just make everything better for everyone with no cost,

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Speaker 1: no downside whatsoever. Illegal migrants just make us all wealthier

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Speaker 1: and happier. That is what we have been told all along.

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Speaker 1: So it seems odd that all of a sudden there

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Speaker 1: are some Democrats who have to answer to their constituents

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Speaker 1: who are saying no more. But speaking of Democrats, Clay

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Speaker 1: who have angry constituents, Flouchy is still out there, and

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Speaker 1: you know people have been paying attention to his masks.

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Speaker 1: Work on the margins maybe ten percent, but another area

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Speaker 1: where there's a lot of outrage because you know, Randy

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Speaker 1: Weingarten was up on Capitol Hill and she was just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, we.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to open the schools, but no, you didn't. You

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Speaker 3: did not want to open them.

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Speaker 1: You're the primary force in opposition to school reopening was

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Speaker 1: the teachers' unions and the Democrat apparatus that they control

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Speaker 1: these major cities. But anyway, Fauci is out there, who's

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Speaker 1: trying to say, we got to stop the Monday morning

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking play twelve? What are the real takeaways, the real lessons?

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Speaker 3: I think, yes, I think.

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Speaker 8: We have to get away from the blame game because

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Speaker 8: so many of the things that you have mentioned were

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Speaker 8: unknowns at the time. It's so easy. And I made

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Speaker 8: that comment in my response to one of the questions

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Speaker 8: that Davis Wallace Well asked.

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Speaker 1: Me, and this is in the New York Times profile,

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Speaker 1: in the New.

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Speaker 8: York Times profile, and I didn't mean it as an

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Speaker 8: affront to him, but I said, you know, this is

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Speaker 8: really big time Monday morning quarterbacking here, which is what

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Speaker 8: it is. So rather than have a blame game, and

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Speaker 8: that's one of the things that we have to stay

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Speaker 8: away from.

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Speaker 1: Click, can I just just real quick here? They didn't say,

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Speaker 1: we're not sure, but we think this is a good

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Speaker 1: way to go. What do you guys think Fauci and

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Speaker 1: the rest were shut up, We have the answers.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to hear it. We will lock you

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Speaker 3: up if you disagree and don't obey.

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Speaker 2: You can't get away from the blame game when you

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Speaker 2: are to blame. Now, that's a good argument for married

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Speaker 2: guys out there. Hey, you were supposed to take the

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Speaker 2: garbage out and you forgot.

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Speaker 3: Well, can we just get.

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Speaker 2: Away from the blame game for a minute.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Work very well because you screwed up. When you screw

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Speaker 2: up and then you say, can we get away from

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Speaker 2: the blame game? As you're opening argument, it's not a

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Speaker 2: good one. Also sports analogy, Monday morning quarterbacking occurs when

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Speaker 2: you lose a game and on Monday people come back

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Speaker 2: and they say, well, on Sunday, we should have gone

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Speaker 2: for it on fourth down.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't have settled for the field goal.

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Speaker 2: But everyone who is listening to this program right now

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Speaker 2: was criticizing doctor Fauci. In real time, we were saying, no,

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Speaker 2: you're making poor choices. That's the opposite of Monday Morning quarterbacking.

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Speaker 2: We knew, Buck, mass didn't make sense. The data reflected

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Speaker 2: that the COVID shot wasn't going to eliminate COVID. We

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Speaker 2: knew that taking kids out of schools was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: We knew all of this, so we weren't Monday Morning quarterbacking.

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Speaker 2: In real time. We were saying, you're making poor choices.

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Speaker 2: And what did they tell us when we made that argument.

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Speaker 2: They said, you're trying to kill grandmas. No, we just

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Speaker 2: want our kids.

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Speaker 3: To be in school.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about this in the next hour. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the data, Buck, Only thirteen percent of kids have

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Speaker 2: a competent score in United States history in this country

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Speaker 2: now the lowest on record. Nobody knows anything reading math, history,

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Speaker 2: all of IT disasters, Fauci's to blame yem