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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday erritorist

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Speaker 1: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio studios. We're taking you up till two am Eastern,

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Speaker 1: and we got a lot to talk about. Training camps

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Speaker 1: are open. College football media days certainly provided plenty of content.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of content, stay tuned, we'll be talking Happy Gilmore too.

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Speaker 1: Baby debuted yesterday. We got a lot of thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a spoiler issues.

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Speaker 2: We can't really get too much into it because people

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Speaker 2: haven't had a chance yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this, I know you're not active

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Speaker 1: on social media, but like I don't mean that in

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Speaker 1: a kind of setting way, like you just you're off

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Speaker 1: social media. But I am surprised by the number of

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Speaker 1: people that within twenty four hours have watched this thing.

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Speaker 1: And everyone's got opinions for sure. But we'll try to

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Speaker 1: be spoiler as much as we can, but we'll give

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Speaker 1: at least yeah, we'll give some sort of caveat. But

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Speaker 1: it's been a busy week. First of all, j Martin,

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Speaker 1: how are you, how's the fam? How's how's life? How's everything?

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Speaker 2: We're all right, Everything's everything's pretty good. The youngest one

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Speaker 2: is I don't know, she's in a bit of sleep

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Speaker 2: regression right now, where she's not napping in the daytime

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Speaker 2: at all, and so that can make for some long days.

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Speaker 2: But all is all is fine, All is good. Started

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Speaker 2: the morning watching Qualifying from SPA for F one, and

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Speaker 2: then I watched Happy Gilmore two this afternoon and now

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Speaker 2: here we roll.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's roll and listen. You know, obviously this time

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Speaker 1: we like to leave the show with big, strong, bold

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Speaker 1: opinions and the hottest topic of the day. Yeah. Last

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Speaker 1: week we were basically the first people that were able

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Speaker 1: to react to the w NBA pay us what You

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Speaker 1: Owe us, which obviously became a certainly a hot topic,

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Speaker 1: you know, Sunday Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't work out the way they thought it

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Speaker 2: was going to. I can tell you that because we

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Speaker 2: might have been the first to comment on it, and

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Speaker 2: I think that obviously a lot of folks agreed with

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Speaker 2: us and had very similar takes for days and days afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Everything I saw, basically, for the most part, it was

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Speaker 2: just kind of like yep, yep, yep, pretty much, yep,

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Speaker 2: pretty much. I don't think that's what they thought they

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Speaker 2: were gonna get when they was when they wore those shirts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of funny. We could spend half

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Speaker 1: a second on this and we got to get to

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Speaker 1: a lot of football. I you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: things about this window is we're so reactionary in the

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Speaker 1: moment that I can't speak for you man, but like

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Speaker 1: sometimes I don't feel like I always articulate the things,

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Speaker 1: especially the stuff that we're reacting to in real time.

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Speaker 1: And that was one where I think my biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: in hindsight is exactly what you just said. And we

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Speaker 1: promised we're not starting with a week old topic, but I.

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Speaker 2: Just want to spend two minutes for a second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that I think if I had one big takeaway,

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Speaker 1: I think that they thought that they were somehow going

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Speaker 1: to be sympathetic figures. And yeah, and I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say I would say like ninety five percent of the

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Speaker 1: reaction that I saw was either you're paid exactly what

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Speaker 1: you're owed, which actually was not the majority of the opinion,

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Speaker 1: but mostly it was you have lost money for thirty years.

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Speaker 1: You may have some positive momentum right now, but can

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Speaker 1: you carry it over for like, I don't know, a

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Speaker 1: two or three year stretch before you start demanding stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think that was probably my biggest takeaway in hindsight.

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Speaker 1: I think they thought they were going to be sympathetic figures.

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Speaker 1: And I think even people that feel like, okay, they

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Speaker 1: most people were just like, Okay, even if you are underpaid,

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Speaker 1: don't think they came off a sympathetic figures at all.

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Speaker 2: Noy and just saw through it. And what's funny is

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Speaker 2: most of the response was something to the effect of

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Speaker 2: you're not owed anything. And it's like, this is why

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Speaker 2: you don't do it in front of the public. This

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Speaker 2: is why you do it behind closed doors. If you're negotiating,

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Speaker 2: not earning any money, you're losing money, you're being held

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Speaker 2: And even if you think because of the TV deals

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Speaker 2: as super entitled? I don't. I don't think that they

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Speaker 2: fully even thought that through. They thought that You're right,

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Speaker 2: you said they thought they were gonna go fully sympathetic.

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Speaker 2: No one had sympathy for them because the message that

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Speaker 2: to the watching audience, We're like, excuse me, Like the

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Speaker 2: tone deafness was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. And to put a bar on this

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Speaker 1: so we could talk about more pressing topical issues. By

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Speaker 1: the way, if you missed any of our conversation last week,

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Speaker 1: you can go back and download the podcast. We also

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Speaker 1: had a nice little traction on YouTube, so find us

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports ready at YouTube. But now I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: is that I think there was a thought Listen again,

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Speaker 1: is it Can you make the argument that maybe conceivably

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Speaker 1: do think they're actually under which I think the vast

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Speaker 1: majority don't think. Let's move on because guess what, man,

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Speaker 1: we got some freaking yeah football. Yeah, you know who's

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Speaker 1: not underpaid anybody in the NFL because they actually make

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Speaker 1: a crap ton of revenue. Okay, So when we were

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Speaker 1: reporting if they had not already. Everybody is now officially

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Speaker 1: in camp. There are thirty two teams. We got the

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Speaker 1: next five six weeks to break it all down. And oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we'll do our division by division preview

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Speaker 1: We could take it in any direction that you want.

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Speaker 1: But as training camps open, is there. I know there's

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably gonna sound pretty obvious, but Cleveland, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all eyes on Shudoor Sanders in particular. But there's there's

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Speaker 2: who ninety five percent of the roster is going to be.

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Speaker 2: So really, what you're hoping for is not to see

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Speaker 2: So you're hoping for no injuries, certainly, But I think

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Speaker 2: and usually in the headlines it is. I've already seen

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Speaker 2: and it's Pittsburgh. It's Aaron Rodgers and what is happening there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's storylines everywhere. The Giants is another one

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Speaker 2: be the year that breaks Tomlin's over five hundred streak,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm watching kind of intently to see how

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Speaker 1: Early on, Yeah, you know, it's funny. I actually I'll

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Speaker 1: be real. So the Cleveland thing is fascinating. I think

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Speaker 1: the number one takeaway from all of the Cleveland media

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Speaker 1: don't want a celebrity backup quarterback and people get mad

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Speaker 1: and it's like, because everything Shador does is covered and

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Speaker 1: not significantly above five hundred. Now, I think from there

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Speaker 1: the Steelers finally say, you know, let's just start from scratch,

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Speaker 1: not only at the quarterback position, draft a guy in

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Speaker 1: but then also obviously what would happen with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: most interesting thing that could possibly happen is if the

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Speaker 1: of skewing away from literally everything that everybody else is

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Then I'll tell you this, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: was pretty annoying when there was basically one team that

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Speaker 1: for him to move on. Imagine if they somehow went

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Speaker 1: the divisional round or whatever, win a playoff game. You

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Speaker 1: thought Aaron Rodgers was insufferable this summer, he might be

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Speaker 1: even more insufferable as summer from now if he actually

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Speaker 1: It's totally fair. And yes, I'm sure if some listener

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Speaker 1: ja Mark, So, in addition to NFL training camps opening,

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Speaker 1: today it is week zero. Kansas State, Iowa State. Not

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Speaker 6: Stuff about you know, whether it was a financial thing

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Speaker 2: First s, Stop protecting your family, man, Like, stop whoever

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Speaker 2: Tennessee fans have to understand this, Yeah, they clearly understand

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Speaker 2: now that the problem is he comes across like he's lying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To accuse someone of that, but this statement flat out doesn't.

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Speaker 2: There's no logic here. It like if he was reaching

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Speaker 2: out to old miss it was not about going home period.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say one of my takeaways from this

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Speaker 1: is that everyone is certainly entitled to their version of

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Speaker 1: the truth. And like I said, if we're going to

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Speaker 1: criticize him, and I think it's fair to criticize him,

440
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Speaker 1: credit to him for showing up to big ten media

441
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Speaker 1: days answering questions. Credit to UCLA for not hiding him

442
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Speaker 1: with that said, just because it's his version of the

443
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Speaker 1: truth does not mean that it was actually the truth. Listen,

444
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Speaker 1: there were multiple reports that the family was asking for

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Speaker 1: more money. By the way, I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: you saw this, j Mark, but Kirkhurbstreet did some random

447
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Speaker 1: podcasts this week and he basically said that he heard

448
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Speaker 1: that the family was trying to make demands on who

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Speaker 1: they were recruiting at wide receiver and who they were

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Speaker 1: recruiting at O line. And so I'm with you is

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Speaker 1: that if you just look at the public facts of

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Speaker 1: the case, one multiple reports that it was actually about

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Speaker 1: money that they were trying to renegotiate. That the market

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Speaker 1: for elite quarterbacks and I'm not even saying he's elite,

455
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Speaker 1: but the market for elite quarterbacks had risen, and they

456
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Speaker 1: basically felt like, well, if this guy's getting this much

457
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Speaker 1: as a transfer, then we deserve that much too. To

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Speaker 1: your point, he claimed it was about getting close to home,

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Speaker 1: but he let his camp engage with other schools. Here's

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Speaker 1: the third part. Unless I'm mistaken, I think his entire family,

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Speaker 1: well not his brother, because his brother, of course was

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Speaker 1: playing at Arkansas in the fall or in the spring.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me. I think his whole family was in Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: So it's like his family moved with him. I you know, again,

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Speaker 1: how recently was that. I don't know, because his brother

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Speaker 1: played high school football in the state of California last year.

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Speaker 1: But it just doesn't add up. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we could separate two things. Is that we're not rooting

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Speaker 1: against Nico. We're not anti Nico, but we're also our

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Speaker 1: job is to not let you just say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want without any degree of pushback. And so, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if it was over money, if it was that you

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Speaker 1: didn't feel like you were in the best position, it's

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Speaker 1: okay to say that. Now, of course, the caveat to

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Speaker 1: that is you're not making more money and you're not

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Speaker 1: in a better position at UCLA. Right, But again, just

477
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Speaker 1: because it's your version of the truth doesn't make it

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Speaker 1: the actual truth based on everything else that we know.

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Speaker 2: Listen, here's a rule of thumb for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: If your name is Nico, shut.

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Speaker 1: Up, sure, o Harrison, I didn't put that together, and.

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Speaker 2: Nico Yama leava like, just just if your name is Nico,

483
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Speaker 2: just because every time someone named Nico has talked this year,

484
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Speaker 2: it's gone bad. Except for Nico Hulkenberg, the Great f

485
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Speaker 2: one driver he can talk outside of that, it has

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Speaker 2: gone poorly for anyone named Nico when they have opened

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Speaker 2: their mouth and tried to explain a situation. I just

488
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Speaker 2: I was baffled by this. I was blown away. I

489
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Speaker 2: felt I felt bad for him because of how bad

490
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Speaker 2: this looked and how bad it sounded. It's just like, Nico, buddy,

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Speaker 2: this ain't it, man, Like this is not it. These

492
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Speaker 2: are not the droids you were looking for. We've got

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Speaker 2: to because it's so easy to call this out and

494
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Speaker 2: it's not gonna make Tennessee fans feel better, and as

495
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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, it make them feel worse because

496
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Speaker 2: like now he's trying to blow smoke, Like, what are

497
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Speaker 2: we even doing here? Just you have moved on, move on,

498
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Speaker 2: Just go ahead and own what has happened and go

499
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Speaker 2: play football, because this right here set him back.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yes, and I think to your point one,

501
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Speaker 1: Tennessee fans have moved on to the degree that they haven't.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you to lie about it. Just again,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know, Like, I don't know what he

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Speaker 1: could say, which is the honest truth. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess the only thing he really could say is like yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: I thought I had more leverage than I did and whatever,

507
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Speaker 1: So I guess he to some degree has to save face.

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Speaker 1: I think this is bluntly a cautionary tale for this

509
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Speaker 1: nil era of leverage and what you think you have

510
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Speaker 1: and what you don't have. And I think we can

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Speaker 1: all kind of put bon on this by saying, Nigo

512
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Speaker 1: iamaliavo whatever, the reason was, not in a better football situation,

513
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Speaker 1: not financially in a better place, And it's gonna be

514
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Speaker 1: a tough lesson. He's got a chance to prove us

515
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Speaker 1: all wrong. I don't think it's gonna happen in the

516
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Speaker 1: Big ten this year, but maybe he proves us all wrong.

517
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Speaker 1: But yeah, to the point that we've both made, just

518
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Speaker 1: because it's your version of the truth doesn't mean it

519
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Speaker 1: actually is the truth. Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason

520
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. When

521
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: we come back, another big name making his debut in

522
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Speaker 1: a new place at Media Day. This guy though, it's

523
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Speaker 1: not what he said, but what he didn't say. We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss that next before we do the first time this evening,

525
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Speaker 1: mister UCLA, Steve the second, how excited are you for

526
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Speaker 1: the Nico Iamliava era here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 7: I am more curious than excited. I genuinely want to

528
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Speaker 7: see what this all looks like because they talk like, oh,

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Speaker 7: we got other players we wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Yes,

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Speaker 7: standing behind.

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Speaker 1: This was an element that we set this when Chip.

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Speaker 7: Kelly was here. By the way, we never used to

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Speaker 7: be able to recruit those kind of guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'll say this, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: critical of a guy who I think has been good

536
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Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio. Bruce Felman put out the puffiest

537
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Speaker 1: of all puff pieces on the Athletic the other day,

538
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Speaker 1: and that was one of the references, Oh we got

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Speaker 1: all these guys. We have four four stars signed up,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, so you got guys that are three

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Speaker 1: years removed from Nico and high school that are dying

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Speaker 1: to play with him. Where in theory, if it goes

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Speaker 1: as well as he claims it's gonna go, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go to the draft after this year. Nothing about this

545
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Speaker 1: adds up. It's all smoke. Just say it's smoke and

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Speaker 1: sorry to Segram.

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Speaker 7: And because his first name, apparently he can't speak anymore.

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Speaker 7: But in Arnie's honor, how about Nico Mannyon for Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I believe a lot of people did. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 1: a lot of people did.

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Speaker 7: Nico Horner comes in infielder. I believe he can speak,

552
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Speaker 7: former first rounder from Stanford. I believe it's okay for

553
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Speaker 7: him to speak. Nick Kertz, does that count? I believe

554
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 7: he can speak. Do you are you aware last night

555
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Speaker 7: what this rookie for the a It was almost said

556
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Speaker 7: the Oakland A's for the A's did.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not actually, to be honest.

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Speaker 7: Four home runs in one game? Wow, a rookie has

559
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Speaker 7: literally never done in the history of Major League baseball.

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Speaker 2: He had.

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Speaker 7: In fact, rookie or not, he's the first player in

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Speaker 7: major league history to have a night where he had

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Speaker 7: four home runs, six hits total, and eight RBIs in

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Speaker 7: the game. What you're saying is that's impressive, unprecedented, so impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I will tell you I was watching Happy Gilmore two,

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Speaker 1: which we will discuss in about an hour from now.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't see this because I was

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Speaker 1: watching Happy Gilmore too.

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Speaker 7: Congratulations, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to it.

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Speaker 7: Did you get the h Dan Patrick segment? Because, of course,

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Speaker 7: if Adam Sandler was involved in anything. He did appear

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Speaker 7: on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I forgot their relationship.

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Speaker 2: N't have to be involved in anything to be on

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Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that is sitting there somewhere. And by the way,

578
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Speaker 7: cal Raleigh of Seattle has homer tonight. That is his

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Speaker 7: fortieth of the season. The Mariners have added some scoring,

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Speaker 7: so they're up six to two at the Angels in

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Speaker 7: the top of the six. Cal Raley is only the

582
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Speaker 7: seventh catcher ever to have a forty home run season

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Speaker 7: and we are still in July. July thirty first is

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Speaker 7: coming up this next week. That's when Baseball's trade deadline

585
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Speaker 7: hits us. The Yankees tonight acquired infielder Ahmed Rosario from Washington.

586
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Speaker 7: Aaron Judge was placed on the jury list with a

587
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Speaker 7: strain and elbow filled it helf. You beat the Yanks

588
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Speaker 7: in New York today nine to four. Toronto is first

589
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Speaker 7: in the AL six and a half games over the Yankees,

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Speaker 7: now Boston seven and a half back. Toronto won at

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Speaker 7: Detroit six to one. The Tigers have lost six in

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Speaker 7: a row. Texas won its fifth straight game, a ten

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Speaker 7: inning win over Atlanta six to five. Kansas City and

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Speaker 7: Cleveland split a doubleheader. The late game has the Mets

595
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Speaker 7: up two to one at the Giants. In the bottom

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Speaker 7: of the ninth, San Diego won three to one at

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Speaker 7: Saint Louis. Boston beat the Dodgers in Clayton Kershaw four

598
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Speaker 7: to two, although sho hey Otani had a leadoff homer,

599
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Speaker 7: his thirty eighth of the year, but the win to

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Speaker 7: All Star for Boston Garrett Crochet. He is twelve and four.

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Speaker 7: The Cubs are tied for first with the Brewers in

602
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Speaker 7: the NL. Central Milwaukee was beaten at home seven to

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Speaker 7: four by Miami, while the Cubs were winners at the

604
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Speaker 7: White Sox six to one. I think we've mentioned on

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Speaker 7: the show before the Colorado Rockies are just not good.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking in your intro, we should do a

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Speaker 1: State of the Rockies, like the three most embarrassing things

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Speaker 1: that have happened this week to the Rockies, Like that

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Speaker 1: should be a segment from the rest of the summer.

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Speaker 7: We have to keep it down to three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you could come. You know, we don't

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Speaker 1: have all night to talk Rockies, but tell us what

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Speaker 1: happened tonight. And it led in my head to we

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Speaker 1: should have like a State of the Rocky segment for

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Speaker 1: at least like five minutes every seady.

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Speaker 7: Let's just go with the good first, because they had

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Speaker 7: actually won three whole games in a row until tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's called a winning streak.

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Speaker 7: It is called a winning streak, and it is now over.

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Speaker 7: They were at Baltimore tonight. Let's be honest. Not a

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Speaker 7: good baseball team this year, Orioles eighteen, Rockies nothing the finals.

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Speaker 7: The Rockies record is now twenty seven and seventy seven.

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Speaker 7: We are not done with July, and they are fifty

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Speaker 7: games under the five hundred mark.

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Speaker 1: Did you get my reference? By the way, it's from

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Speaker 1: Major League one. Lou Brown says, we won yesterday, we

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Speaker 1: can win today if we went tomorrow. That's called a

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Speaker 1: winning streak. It has happened before. So yes, congrats of

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Speaker 1: the Rockies on a winning street this week.

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Speaker 7: So sorry you had me on a Gilmore thing. I

631
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Speaker 7: go back to the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about Major League for a second. There,

633
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Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm mister pop culture. What can I say?

635
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Speaker 2: Lou Brown, the actor passed away a few years ago?

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Speaker 7: Oh really, the manager, I believe, So yeah, that was

637
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Speaker 7: just a salty, crusty actor. That was perfect to play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was working at the tire shops before he

639
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Speaker 1: got the Cleveland Idians. Gig is amazing. Yeah, it looks

640
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Speaker 1: like he did pass away a little while ago. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: all right to say anything else of the Rockies, anything else,

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Speaker 1: anything exciting?

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Speaker 2: Or are you kidding?

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Speaker 7: There's always good stuff on the Rockies. You actually want

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Speaker 7: me to give you one more?

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Speaker 2: Do it? Well?

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Speaker 7: Did I have more? Put it this way? In the

648
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Speaker 7: National League, if at this point of the season, you've

649
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Speaker 7: been outscored by one hundred runs, your manager has been fired.

650
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Speaker 7: So like Washington, they've been outscored by one hundred and

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Speaker 7: five runs at this point. If you add up the

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Speaker 7: runs they've scored in the amount they've given up, it's

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Speaker 7: a minus one oh five. Okay, the Rockies are a

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Speaker 7: minus two sixty four.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's incredible. My god, lost an eighteen to nothing.

656
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Speaker 1: That certainly is a good help.

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Speaker 7: Roughly, they've scored three point fifty and given up six fifty. Roughness,

658
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Speaker 7: that's how bad a year it's.

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Speaker 2: And they still have to play out the rest of

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and they only have twenty seven wins to speak for.

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Speaker 1: Things goodness gracious, all right to Segre, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: More fun Rockies facts throughout the show.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's the gift that keeps on giving, isn't.

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Speaker 1: It, Tony. We'll work that into the show somewhere along

666
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Speaker 1: the way the next few weeks as we ramp up

667
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Speaker 1: to football. But Fox Sports Radio Ertors Jason Martin will

668
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Speaker 1: come back. We'll pay off that tease the coach who

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Speaker 1: said nothing, but we shouldn't be surprised at media Days. Oh,

670
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Speaker 1: by the way, you do have to hear what Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban said. Oh we too. Well, well, we're discussing all

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Speaker 1: of it next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. Busy week actually in college football, where

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the acc head media days. Probably

676
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Speaker 1: the most intriguing thing that came out of Media Day

677
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Speaker 1: was the presence of someone, even if he didn't say

678
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Speaker 1: very much. That of course, was Bill Belichick making his

679
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Speaker 1: you know, essentially his debut is North Carolina head coach

680
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Speaker 1: on a national stage. You know, before we came on air,

681
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Speaker 1: j Martin, I made sure that I didn't miss anything

682
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Speaker 1: super important that Belichick said, he.

683
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Speaker 2: Said on to Cincinnati Aaron, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He said on to TCU, the first time anyone's ever

685
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: said that. I will say, you know, it's it's it's funny.

686
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Speaker 1: Like even Dabo Sweeney kind of referenced, like I still

687
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Speaker 1: get chills being in the same room as him. So

688
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Speaker 1: the name carries a ton of weight.

689
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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have a lot of thoughts on everything.

691
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Speaker 1: We wouldn't be talking about it if we if we didn't.

692
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Speaker 1: But what are your kind of thoughts or expectations for

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Speaker 1: this Belichick at least year one, Because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm curious your thoughts on Belichick as he

695
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Speaker 1: heads into his first year as a college football coach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm certainly fascinated to see what this looks like.

697
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Speaker 2: Their schedule is manageable, That's the one way to put it.

698
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Speaker 2: It's gonna look better probably than it is, even if

699
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Speaker 2: it's not good at all. I mean, it's not like

700
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Speaker 2: Belichick doesn't know how to coach. But when I keep

701
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Speaker 2: seeing this stuff like well, North Carolina football is being

702
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: run like a pro program, Like all right, man, like easy,

703
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Speaker 2: Let's just get to the season and let's see what

704
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Speaker 2: happens here. I don't know how much talent that team has.

705
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they have all that much. I

706
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Speaker 2: just want I want to know what it looks like

707
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Speaker 2: at mid season, if it has gone poorly somehow, if

708
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Speaker 2: they've underperformed, or if it just totally looks like a

709
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Speaker 2: bad fit. Like is he already going to be looking

710
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Speaker 2: for the exits at that point in time. I don't

711
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Speaker 2: think that it will, just because again, the schedule is

712
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Speaker 2: so kind of just unbelievably easy in many respects. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of this yet because

714
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Speaker 2: we know Belichick for one thing, and now he's going

715
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Speaker 2: to do something. It's just a completely different universe. Even

716
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Speaker 2: with sort of the changes in college football, it's a

717
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Speaker 2: completely different universe at this point for him. So we

718
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Speaker 2: stepping into this, We've heard a lot of stuff in

719
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Speaker 2: the offseasons had nothing to do with football, certainly with

720
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Speaker 2: his girlfriend and everything else that's been going on. I'm

721
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Speaker 2: looking forward to it actually getting onto the gridiron so

722
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Speaker 2: we can actually see what Belichick looks like as a

723
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Speaker 2: college football coach. I just assume that the ceiling is

724
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Speaker 2: somewhere around mediocre. Like I just I don't see this

725
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Speaker 2: being some Ohio State, Alabama, you know, Michigan kind of

726
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Speaker 2: deal here. For North Carolina, they don't have a ton

727
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Speaker 2: of tradition. They have won some football games, and they've

728
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Speaker 2: had some talented guys come through there. We know that

729
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: they've had some Hall of famers come through there. But

730
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Speaker 2: at the same time, it's just like, what is the

731
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Speaker 2: ceiling for North Carolina football with Bill Belichick. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think if it goes really really well for them,

733
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be like Spurri or at South Carolina or

734
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Speaker 2: something like that. But I don't sense that that's what

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be. I just kind of assume they're gonna

736
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Speaker 2: be about a seven win team at best, and it's

737
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Speaker 2: gonna be more. More or less, it's gonna be uninteresting

738
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Speaker 2: in terms of the results on the field. Everything's gonna

739
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Speaker 2: be generated by what is said about Belichick more so

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Speaker 2: than what we're seeing on the football field.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what, I do think it's gonna

742
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Speaker 1: be uninteresting because one thing about Bill Belichick, nobody will

743
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Speaker 1: ever say that they stylistically play the best style. And really,

744
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Speaker 1: once you get past they do play an opener on

745
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Speaker 1: National TV, it's the Labor Day night. Remember we get

746
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Speaker 1: five straight days of college football Labor Day weekend Thursday

747
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Speaker 1: through Monday. So the final game of Week one is

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Speaker 1: North Carolina hosting TCU. Then after that, you know, Week four,

749
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Speaker 1: you get Clemson, Week five, you get Clemson, and you

750
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Speaker 1: might not play a ranked team the rest of the year.

751
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Speaker 1: So you know, it's one where I think it's going

752
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: to into the background because it's going to be neither

753
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Speaker 1: that exciting and it's not like there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: bunch of marquee games. Like if he took the South

755
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Carolina job and you're playing you know, Bama LSU, that

756
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: becomes a different deal. So I'm kind of with with you.

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Speaker 1: I think the win loss record might be impressive, just

758
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Speaker 1: because I don't see teams on the schedule that are

759
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: like definitive l's. I just I think it's interesting, it's

760
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: an interesting story. I don't know if it's going to

761
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Speaker 1: be an interesting product really quickly. Do want to talk

762
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Speaker 1: about one of Bill Belichick's former assistant coaches, that's Nick Saban.

763
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Speaker 1: This time last week, j Mart, we were talking about

764
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Speaker 1: the rumors via Greg McElroy that Nick Saban would be

765
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Speaker 1: was at least willing to listen to coming back to

766
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Speaker 1: coaching well. He joined Fox News on Friday and was

767
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Speaker 1: asked specifically about his potential return to coaching. Here's what

768
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Speaker 1: he had to say.

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Speaker 8: I thought about getting back into coaching until two days ago.

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Speaker 8: Miss Terry said, I had to run the sweeper in

771
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Speaker 8: the entire downstairs. So while I was running the sweeper,

772
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Speaker 8: the thought occurred to me, you know, when you were coaching,

773
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Speaker 8: you had a heck of a lot better job than this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when he says run the sweeper, that

775
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Speaker 1: isn't like a half back toss, that's the yes.

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Speaker 2: So I at first I thought that when I first

777
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Speaker 2: started the audio, I thought that's where he was going

778
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Speaker 2: with it. I thought he was gonna try to make

779
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Speaker 2: a pun out of it. But no, indeed, he was

780
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Speaker 2: just like, now, it's kind of boring doing housework.

781
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and is boring doing housework, Nick saban having some

782
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Speaker 1: fun with it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

784
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Speaker 1: He did say some other kind of conversation about basically

785
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Speaker 1: like you know that that he enjoys being in kind

786
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: of an administrative role and you know, being able to

787
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Speaker 1: help college football. From a thirty thousand foot view, I

788
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: do believe the exact quote was something like, there is

789
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: no job that currently interests me. So maybe J Mart

790
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: he learned his lesson from the Miami Dolphins when he

791
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Speaker 1: said there is no way I am taking that Alabama job.

792
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Speaker 1: I guess he's leaving himself a one percent of one percent.

793
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Speaker 1: But I don't think you and I really believe that

794
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Speaker 1: there was that much on the table for him a

795
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Speaker 1: week ago. And it doesn't really sound like much has

796
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Speaker 1: changed out and he spoke no.

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Speaker 2: I think he's having fun at this point. Again. I mean,

798
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Speaker 2: the job on TV and stuff is pretty good. There's

799
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Speaker 2: no reason to jump into a bad job. We'll see

800
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: what happens in a coming years. Maybe you gets see

801
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: it and Terry wants him to do it. But I

802
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: my guess is he's done. I just I think he

803
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: is done with the football experience as a coach.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, Nick Saban talking about his future.

805
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Speaker 1: Tell you what, J Mart, we got two hours left.

806
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Hour one just flew on by. We will come back.

807
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk some NFL. We're gonna talk some happy

808
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Gilmore too. But unfortunately the sports world lost a legend

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Speaker 1: this week. We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Threty Welcome

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Speaker 1: in Everybody hour two towards martin Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 1: are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, taking

812
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Speaker 1: you up till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Fratto

813
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us. Cannot wait

814
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: to hear what Bernie has to say about a busy

815
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Speaker 1: week in sports. We obviously talked a lot in our

816
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: one about the opening of NFL training camps. We talked

817
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: a lot about college football. We'll go back to the

818
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Speaker 1: NFL in about twenty minutes with our preview of the

819
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Speaker 1: NFC North. Do want to go ahead, though, and switch

820
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Speaker 1: gears to a little bit of a serious topic, and

821
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Speaker 1: it's because over the course of the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: we did lose a sports legend, of sports icon, somebody

823
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Speaker 1: who I think kind of transcended sport. That's whole. Cogan

824
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: passed away earlier this week at the age of seventy one.

825
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Speaker 1: You know, I think most people know this. I am

826
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Speaker 1: far from a wrestling expert, you know. You know, I

827
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Speaker 1: don't mean to sound mean spirited about it was just

828
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: never really my thing growing up, But really too, Hulk Hogan,

829
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Speaker 1: I think, as much as anybody was a crossover star

830
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Speaker 1: that I think basically, if you had any understanding of

831
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: essentially pop culture, you knew who Hulk Hogan was. But

832
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Speaker 1: I would also say that there is probably no one

833
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: on this network better equipped to speak about Hulk Hogan

834
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Speaker 1: speak about professional wrestling than Jason Martin. Jason Bartin, you

835
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Speaker 1: worked in professional wrestling for years. So I'm gonna kind

836
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Speaker 1: of mostly lay out to you during this segment because

837
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Speaker 1: we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about an icon,

838
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: and I think you probably have better perspective on it

839
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: than probably anybody on Fox Sports Radios airway, So I'm

840
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna give you the floor here for a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, he was a complex figure, first of all,

842
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: and you know, I am reminded of Aaron Eckhart from

843
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: The Dark Knight saying you either die a hero or

844
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Speaker 2: live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And

845
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Speaker 2: you know, recent history has not been as kind to

846
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Terry Bella. And you know, he had the scandals, and

847
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: he had the unfortunate comments and all the things that

848
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: sort of changed the perception about him. But what can

849
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Speaker 2: never be taken away is the impact that he had

850
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Speaker 2: cross culturally, and I think that's the important point that

851
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Speaker 2: you made, which is if you said pro wrestling anywhere

852
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Speaker 2: in the world outside of maybe Japan, because Japan has

853
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: its own huge, absolutely massive wrestling scene and so they're

854
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: way more in the know, but a lot of places

855
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Speaker 2: in the world and you just walked up to anyone

856
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Speaker 2: random and said pro wrestling, especially in the eighties to

857
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Speaker 2: probably around the mid nineties, the response that you would

858
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Speaker 2: get would be Hull Cogan. If you showed a picture

859
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: of Hull Cogan, they would know who that was. Back

860
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: in the eighties, it was generally it was Hull Cogan.

861
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: It was Rick Flair's Rick Flair down South, and it

862
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: was Hul Cogan for Vince McMahon the WWF after we

863
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: left the AWA. But those were the two icons of wrestling.

864
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Rick Flair was the better wrestler, is the better wrestler,

865
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: all of those things. It didn't matter though, because Hulk

866
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: Hogan was he was different. It wasn't because he did

867
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: various movies and all of those things. It was just

868
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: Hulk Cogan was larger than life. When pro wrestling is

869
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: at its best from a business perspective, you have larger

870
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: than life characters that at least at that point in

871
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: time kids could look up to, kids could look up

872
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 2: to Hogan, And I remember, you know, him putting raw

873
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: eggs into a glass and drinking them on Saturday mornings

874
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: on TV and telling kids to eat their vitamins and

875
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: all these other kinds of things, throwing out what was

876
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: happening in real life and the stuff behind the scenes

877
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: with Hogan and the politics and the way that and

878
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: the one thing that you know, he made money pretty

879
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 2: much everywhere he went for everyone, and he made a

880
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: whole lot of money for himself. And he protected his

881
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: role and protected his spot and protected how he was

882
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: going to be shown off on television. He did that relentlessly,

883
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: and it only grew as time went on, and so

884
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: he got, you know, sort of a he got kind

885
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: of a reputation for not caring about anyone but himself,

886
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: being incredibly selfish in how he never wanted to see

887
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: anybody elevated higher than him and things like that. But

888
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: that I don't think that that makes him much different

889
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: than a lot of the icons in sport. One thing

890
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: that I think you find out a lot about the

891
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: guys that were at their best is they were also

892
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: some of the most fragile sure, and as a result,

893
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: they clung on and held on and did everything that

894
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: they could to stalm down on others if they had

895
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: to along the way. But Hogan drew insane amounts of money.

896
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: He drew insane amounts of fans. You know, you would

897
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: think about the eighties, and if you were thinking about

898
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: just culture in the eighties, you would be thinking of

899
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, you would be thinking about hul Cogan, You'd

900
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: be thinking about mister t you would be thinking about

901
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: There were certain things that defined that decade, and hul

902
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Cogan did that. And then the amazing thing was in

903
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: the nineties, when wrestling had kind of shifted and changed

904
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the athleticism involved, in terms of the

905
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: way the matches were being done, and the page had

906
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: been turned, hul Cogan managed to reinvent himself, agreed to

907
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: do the thing that he had never wanted to do

908
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: because he thought it would hurt his bottom line, and

909
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: that was become an antagonist, become an enemy, become a villain,

910
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: become a heel. And he ended up doing that and

911
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: becoming the greatest heal we had ever seen really at

912
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: that point, and led to monumental business for another company.

913
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: After he had done it for the WWF, he did

914
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: it for World Championship Wrestling as well. His imprint is

915
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: going to be felt forever, and without him, you would

916
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: never have had a John Cena, you would never have

917
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: had a Dwayne Johnson, you would have never had a

918
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: lot of these guys because so much of what they

919
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: do was sort of inspired in some ways by what

920
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan had done before. He was a trail blazer

921
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: as an entertainer because he was one of the first

922
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: pro wrestlers to be featured nationally for an extended period

923
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: of time on television, and as such, he knew his

924
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: role was different than the guy that is at the

925
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: exact same building every single week, performing in front of

926
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: the same audience, where there it gets more personal and

927
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: it's more localized. This had to be national, and so

928
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan became an icon, and he became a symbol

929
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: for the United States. He became a symbol for America

930
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: in the heyday of his career. And again, like Pro

931
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Wrestling WWF, who knows if they even survive if they

932
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: don't find someone like a whole Cogan. And because they did,

933
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: they were able to ride that wave and he was

934
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: able to ride that wave to tremendous popularity, and despite

935
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: the scandals, despite all the things that would lead on.

936
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: And I will say this too. I had heard, and man,

937
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: I pray that this is true, that in the last

938
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: eighteen months whul Cogan found Christ and that it changed him.

939
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: And I had heard that from some people behind the scenes,

940
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: and I read some things in the last couple of

941
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: days that indicated that allowing Christ to become the lord

942
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: of his life had changed things. For I pray that

943
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: is true. Somebody sent me a photo yesterday of a

944
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: lot of deceased wrestlers at the Pearly Gates and a

945
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: joke about how the iron cheek was waiting for him

946
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: when he got up there. And then there was a

947
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: comment made to me in a text message about how

948
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: well only one of those guys is going to be in,

949
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: and my response was, I hope one of them is in.

950
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: I really do. I hope they hope then, quite frankly,

951
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: but I whatever happened later in life for the Holster,

952
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I hope that there was some peace, and I do

953
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: hope that he was able to find Christ and that

954
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: that indeed has put him where he needs to be,

955
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: But in terms of just what he means to pro wrestling,

956
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: pro wrestling in America, I don't think that it would

957
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: have completely died, but it was taken into the stratosphere

958
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: and it was given a long runway with which to

959
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: falter in the nineties and then come out on the

960
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: other end and survive long enough for the Stone Colt,

961
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: Steve Austin's, the Rocks, all of those guys to emerge

962
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: to keep it alive. Hul Cogan was the pulse of

963
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: entertainment based wrestling in America in a way that virtually

964
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: no one else. And if you're not old enough to

965
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: have seen it, what I'm saying is it's not gonna

966
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: land for you because you're gonna think of newer guys.

967
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: But without Hulk Cogan you get none of that. You

968
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 2: get absolutely none of that. He was a game changer

969
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: in the vastest sense of the word, just a media icon.

970
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: You think about Donald Trump before he went into the

971
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: White House, what Donald Trump was again another eighties figure, Trump,

972
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: Mister t Hull Cogan, Michael Jackson. All these guys transcended

973
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: what they did and were even larger than that, and

974
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: Hull Cogan certainly qualifies.

975
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that to me as somebody

976
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: who's not a wrestling fan. I think in my life

977
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: there are four guys that have kind of transcended wrestling,

978
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: and I think even one of them really only because

979
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: of the age that I was when he kind of

980
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: came up. And that guy is stone cold Steve Auston

981
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: is I think the only reason I know about it

982
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: is because I was kind of like in that teenage

983
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: window when all my other friends were wrestling. We're wrestling fans,

984
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: so they So the point I'm trying to make is

985
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: that in my life, I would say it's John Cena,

986
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: it's Dwayne the Rock Johnson, you know, maybe Macho Man

987
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: Savage cause you know, I still remember the slim gyms,

988
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, going too the grocery store and you'd see

989
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: his face on the side of the slim gym. But

990
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: but I would say number one is Hulk Hogan, and

991
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know what it was about

992
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: him or why it was. By the way, Andre the

993
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: Giant I think was pretty much retire Sure, yeah before

994
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I like was around, but like, I don't know what

995
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: it was, but it just was. And I was talking

996
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: to somebody about this earlier in the week, but it

997
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a wrestling guy. But I'm pretty sure, you know,

998
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: my mom's getting ready to move out of her house.

999
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she's cleaning. She's probably found some Hulk

1000
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Hogan action figure or something like that, you know. And

1001
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: it's just like, whether it was movies, whether it was TV,

1002
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: whether it was whatever, he was just one of those

1003
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: guys that transcended things. And I'll be honest, and maybe

1004
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: it's because I'm not so close to it. I actually

1005
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: don't remember a lot of the stuff that went wrong

1006
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: for him the last probably ten twelve, fifteen years.

1007
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 9: Now.

1008
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: I remember the tape because I think it was a

1009
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: sports media story as much as it was a Whule

1010
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Cogan story. But it's not to say that those things

1011
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't be part of the you know, of the full

1012
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: story of Hulk Hogan. But you know, I hate to

1013
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: say it like this because it maybe dismisses some things.

1014
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: But like I think, when guys get older and guys

1015
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: pass away, I think a lot of the negative I

1016
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to say it because I

1017
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: don't I'm not close enough to it. But it's like

1018
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: you can think of other recent athletes where they maybe

1019
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: there were some things they weren't proud of at various

1020
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: points in their lives and it just isn't talked about

1021
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: as much when they pass away. And like with Hull Hogan,

1022
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't the first or the tenth

1023
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: or the fifteenth thing that I thought about, and maybe

1024
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: I should have, and maybe that's on me, but to me,

1025
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: it is the guy that was in movies, It is

1026
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: the guy that was on TV. It was the guy

1027
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: that was identifiable from the goatee and the hair and

1028
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: the yellow shirt, even if you weren't a wrestling fan.

1029
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: And so I'll just leave it kind of there. From

1030
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: my perspective, is I just I think he's going to

1031
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: be remembered as one of the icons for what he

1032
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: did in the ring, but then also beyond that, for

1033
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: just the fact that he transcended the sport in general.

1034
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think there's something to that. I think

1035
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: if you are far enough away, then you haven't met

1036
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: your hero. And I think that if you are really

1037
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: into know and professional wrestling, then you know some of

1038
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes politics that he played and the

1039
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: reputation that he had for holding young guys down and

1040
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: some of those kinds of things, and it just but again,

1041
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people did that. His stories

1042
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: got out a lot. But yeah, in recent years, I

1043
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: mean he had he had some racist stuff, and he

1044
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: had some things that came out that were just very unflattering,

1045
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: and you know, there's nothing he can do to fix

1046
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: those things in terms of making them not be there.

1047
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that they need to be the first

1048
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: thing that you talk about. Look, there were some tributes

1049
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: that were done won by a group that I respect

1050
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: and have even contributed to in the past, and they're

1051
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: doing a series on Hogan as a result in the podcast,

1052
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: and the very first podcast that they did was breaking

1053
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: down the scandals and the race, and it's just like, look,

1054
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be the first thing we talk about. Like that,

1055
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: to me is a mistake. I think that you do

1056
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: that when you're doing a full on biography and you're

1057
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: going in like, yeah, that should be part of the

1058
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: podcast series, but that should not be the lead. This

1059
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: is not O. J. Simpson, you know what I'm saying.

1060
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jump out on that really quick, because

1061
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: I kind of danced around it about two minutes ago,

1062
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: and I'll just say it, like with Kobe Bryant, Like right,

1063
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: there was a very high profile case that he settled

1064
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: out of court, and it's just like that shouldn't be

1065
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: completely dismissed when we talk about Kobe Bryant. But I

1066
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: don't know that it's the lead to the story. And

1067
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: I again I don't know. I just to me, And

1068
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: again maybe it's because I'm not so close to it.

1069
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: It just wasn't the negative stuff wasn't necessarily the first

1070
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: stuff that I thought of when it came to Hulk Hogan.

1071
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Speaker 1: And again maybe I'm wrong for not being enough in

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Speaker 1: the know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. No, I don't think so. And look,

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Speaker 2: I think it's okay, right, Like there's just stuff that

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00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: you don't know, and like you can't know everything that's happening,

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: and you know, it's okay to remember the good things. Yeah,

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00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna hear the bad things. And maybe that changes

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the tenor, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: that that needs to be lost. It. One other thing

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Speaker 2: that I want to mention about Hogan outside of wrestling,

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Speaker 2: it's very very important and it's related to the tape.

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Speaker 1: Hogan.

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Speaker 2: That lawsuit pretty much destroyed Gawker, no doubt, and Gawker,

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00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: to me, was something that didn't need to exist quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: the way that it was being run, in the agenda

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00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: that was going on behind the scenes. Hogan helped bankrupt

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Speaker 2: them and get them out of there, and I think

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00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: that that was good. I mean, there's plenty of week

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Speaker 2: and say about the state of journalism in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: but Garker was not a positive force in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, and that lawsuit kind of changed. It

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Speaker 2: changed precedent and a lot of respects, and it helped

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Speaker 2: move on past something like that. So that's going to

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Speaker 2: be part of his legacy outside of wrestling as well,

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Speaker 2: is how it affected the media landscape in the country

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Speaker 2: as well well.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I said a minute ago, is like

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Speaker 1: that to me was more of a It's something from

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Speaker 1: his personal life. But I think the only reason that

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Speaker 1: story resonated with me is because I work in sports media,

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Speaker 1: and so I just bring that up to just say

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Speaker 1: that again, I don't know, I don't want to speak

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Speaker 1: for every American and I don't want to speak for

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Speaker 1: every whatever. And as a matter of fact, you know,

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Speaker 1: people can tweet us. We're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: open the phone lines right now, but tweet us at

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Speaker 1: Aaron Underscore Torres at Jmartin Radio. I'd be curious, like,

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Speaker 1: is that a factor when you think of Hulk Hogan

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Speaker 1: when you remember Hulk Hogan the negative stories that came

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Speaker 1: out last ten to fifteen years. To your point, jmart

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Speaker 1: I think the last probably three to four to five

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Speaker 1: years were pretty quiet. I mean, he obviously appeared at

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Speaker 1: the r NC last summer, which I think was probably

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Speaker 1: his last like super mainstream thing. That was also why

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Speaker 1: I think it was kind of to me a little

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Speaker 1: bit shocking just to see him pass away because I

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: just saw him on my TV last whatever it was

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Speaker 1: July or August. But anyway, I would be curious from

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Speaker 1: the audience just about that because I just I think

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Speaker 1: if you're unless you're a diehard that lived and breathed

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Speaker 1: every moment of his career, I just don't think it's

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Speaker 1: really on your radar. Again, you could tweet us at

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Speaker 1: Aaron Underscore Torres at JMRT Radio JMRT before we switch

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Speaker 1: gears back to the NFL, any any last things that

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Speaker 1: you want to get and just want to make sure again,

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Speaker 1: this is your wheelhouse. I want to make sure we

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Speaker 1: didn't miss anything big.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think, just on a personal note,

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Speaker 2: as complicated and as you know, as a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a checkered past in some respects and all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff, wrestling has been such a gigantic part

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Speaker 2: of my life. I don't think it would have been

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Speaker 2: without him, I don't, you know. I feel like I

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Speaker 2: was driven more by the National Wrestling Alliance and Georgia

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Speaker 2: Championship Wrestling because of where I lived in a country.

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Speaker 2: But WWFF was available on USA Network and it was national,

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Speaker 2: and hull Cogan was a hero to me, like he

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Speaker 2: was a hero to a ton of other people that

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Speaker 2: I know around my age. And you know, we had

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Speaker 2: the fake wrestling matches, and I hit the big leg too,

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Speaker 2: just like a many many other people did. And just

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Speaker 2: there's so many memorable things about what hul Cogan did.

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Speaker 2: Even though he really only had like three or four

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Speaker 2: wrestling moves throughout the course of his entire career, it

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Speaker 2: didn't matter because he truly did feel like someone you

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: could look up to as a kid, and we need

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00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: those kind of figures. And sometimes you look now and

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00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: you don't see him, and yeah, maybe he turned out

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00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: not to be somebody you would have looked up to,

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Speaker 2: and so in all which respects, but the character that

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Speaker 2: he portrayed in the eighties gave a lot of hope

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00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: and a lot of inspiration to a lot of youth

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Speaker 2: across this country, including me.

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Speaker 1: Huk Hogan passes away at the age of seventy one

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Speaker 1: this week. A lot of people across these airwaves have

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00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: had a lot to say, so make sure to check

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: out Fox Sports Radio, YouTube and podcasts. I know Covino

1158
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: and Rich had had them had him on their show previously,

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: and I think pretty much everybody at this point has

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Speaker 1: shared some thoughts, and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts

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Speaker 1: as well. Jmart tell you what we will come back.

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Speaker 1: We will switch gears to the NFL. We're doing our

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Speaker 1: division by division previews up next, maybe the most intriguing

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Speaker 1: division in the NFL, the NFC North Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: We're breaking them all down next. Fox Sports are you?

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen, love,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Do you want to get

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Speaker 1: to our over underwin total preview of the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do that in just one moment. Fordy, though,

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Speaker 1: let's get over the news desk to Saga what is

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Speaker 1: tray to?

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Speaker 7: And we'll have NFL notes in about fifteen minutes. In

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Speaker 7: that segment. We've got almost all finals in Major League

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Speaker 7: Baseball tonight. They are finishing up the top of the

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Speaker 7: ninth right now in Anaheim, Seattle seven to two over

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Speaker 7: the Angels. Going to the bottom of the ninth. Cal

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Speaker 7: Raley of the Mariners hit home run number forty of

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Speaker 7: his season. This is not only a catcher making this

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Speaker 7: kind of impressive already. It's a switch hitter and he's

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Speaker 7: already hit forty this year. His team has played one

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Speaker 7: hundred and five games this year. The statu is apparently

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Speaker 7: among switch hitters, this ties the most home runs of

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Speaker 7: switch hitters ever hit by this point of a season,

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Speaker 7: tying with Mickey Mantles nineteen sixty one season through one

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Speaker 7: hundred and five game games. Shoeo Tony led off the

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Speaker 7: game at Boston tonight on Fox TV with a long ball,

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Speaker 7: his thirty eighth home run, but Boston did beat the

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Speaker 7: Dodgers four to two. Clayton Kershaw took the loss to

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Speaker 7: win the Garrett Crochet. He's twelve and four ERA two

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Speaker 7: point twenty three, had ten strikeouts of LA in six

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Speaker 7: innings of work. The Mets have won their sixth straight,

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Speaker 7: a two to one victory at San Francisco when he

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Speaker 7: David Peterson, having a good season, went six innings for

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Speaker 7: the win, beating Robbie Ray, who had been nine to four.

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Speaker 7: The Mets are alone and first in the NL, still

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Speaker 7: a half game over the Phillies, who won in New

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Speaker 7: York against the Yankees nine to four. Today, yankstar Aaron

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Speaker 7: Judge was placed on the IL with a strained elbow.

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Speaker 7: The Toronto Blue Jays hit three homers in the ninth

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Speaker 7: to make it a six to one final. At Detroit,

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Speaker 7: the Tigers have lost six in a row, and they

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Speaker 7: blew another good start from Trek scoobl who's ten and

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Speaker 7: three this year had six scoreless innings, seven strikeouts, but

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Speaker 7: a no decision. Texas won its fifth straight, a ten

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Speaker 7: inning win over Atlanta six to five victories for Pittsburgh

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Speaker 7: and Cincinnati wins for the A's and Washington. Baltimore shut

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Speaker 7: out Colorado eighteen to nothing. Miami won at Milwaukee seven

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Speaker 7: to four, while the Cubs were winners six to one

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Speaker 7: at the White Sox. That game was scoreless through six innings,

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Speaker 7: but the Cubs are now tied with the Brewers for

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Speaker 7: first place in the NL Central Kansas City split a

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Speaker 7: doubleheader with Cleveland. San Diego ended a four game losing streak,

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Speaker 7: winning three to one at Saint Louis. Cards had just

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Speaker 7: three hits two WNBA games, Washington at home beat Seattle

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Speaker 7: sixty nine fifty eight and at New York Liberty star

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Speaker 7: Brianna Stewart left early with a leg injury. La won

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Speaker 7: on a layup at the Buzzer one oh one ninety

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Speaker 7: nine Sabrina Yonescu thirty points in the loss. There is

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Speaker 7: a big Caitlin Clark against Angel Rees game tomorrow. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 7: Clark's not playing tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: For next ticket prices down.

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Speaker 7: No timetable for a return with the growing injury, but

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Speaker 7: she has missed twelve games this year, so half her

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Speaker 7: team's games, with three different injuries. After not being injured

1229
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Speaker 7: or see any games due to injuries the previous couple

1230
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Speaker 7: of years. Kansas men's basketball coach Bill Self is out

1231
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 7: of the hospital after a heart procedure this past week,

1232
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Speaker 7: and a reminder of the Baseball Hall of Fame inductions

1233
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Speaker 7: are on Sunday. Five players were voted in this year,

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Speaker 7: including Ichiro Suzuki, also honored at Cooper's Down this week,

1235
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Speaker 7: CC Sabathia, and Billy Wagner. Oddity that Billy Wagner is

1236
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Speaker 7: going to get into the Hall of Fame, a pitcher

1237
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Speaker 7: who literally never started a game. Also, Dave Parker and

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Speaker 7: Dick Allen are in. Those two were elected by a committee.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Seger. Segab

1240
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Speaker 1: be back in just a few minutes with all sorts

1241
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Speaker 1: of stuff that you missed throughout the day. Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio erraitors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio studios. By the way, Jamart, really quickly. We're going

1244
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Speaker 1: to get to our NFC update in a second. But

1245
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Speaker 1: a couple tweets in about Hulk Hogan. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about should the last few years, you know, impact his legacy.

1247
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Speaker 1: Matd Max says a local sports talk radio guy here

1248
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta called Hok Hogan the Babe Ruth of pro wrestling.

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Speaker 1: I assume that means just the original, one of a

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: kind Douglas. I think leans in where I do. I

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Speaker 1: could care less what Hogan did outside of wrestling. He

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: was a human who made mistakes, He had opinions. Who

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Speaker 1: cares who? Who was a hero. He will always be

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Speaker 1: a hero and always will be. Brendan said, Hulk Hogan's

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Speaker 1: legacy is undeniable. Yes, his behavior outside of WWEWCW was questionable,

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Speaker 1: but he appeared to have done one thing that makes

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Speaker 1: him me feel okay. He gave his life to Christ.

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Speaker 1: This happened no later than twenty twenty three. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I am a WWE fan too, so no want to

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Speaker 1: speak for everybody, but it does feel like the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of people can separate the icon inside the professional

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Speaker 1: wrestling ring with you know a couple things that have

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Speaker 1: happened over the last couple of years. Let's switch gears, though,

1264
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: because this time every week from now until the start

1265
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Speaker 1: of the season, we are going team by team giving

1266
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Speaker 1: our over under previews and predictions. Last week we did

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Speaker 1: the NFC East. Today the fascinating NFC North, Mary, give

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01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: us a little bit of music, Brandon, what team are

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Speaker 1: we talking about?

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Speaker 2: First?

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Speaker 10: All right, guys, like you just mentioned last week, you

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Speaker 10: did the NFC East. This week it's the NFC North,

1273
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 10: and of course the Lions have the top wind total

1274
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 10: ten and a half, one seed last year. A lot

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Speaker 10: of injuries already. I know Dan Campbell's already been talking

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Speaker 10: about that. Aaron, what are your thoughts on them? You know,

1277
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 10: whether they'll regress or will they keep this engine going?

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01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 10: The last few years they've been very successful, especially in

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Speaker 10: the regular season, very successful.

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Speaker 1: They were my Super Bowl pick last year. Injuries warm down.

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Speaker 1: I'll be transparent. I love Dan Campbell, I love everything

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Speaker 1: that he's about. I gotta go under here. Listen. It's cliche,

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Speaker 1: but you lose two coordinators to head coaching jobs. One

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01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: coordinator you bring in. John Morton has been in oc

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Speaker 1: and really, frankly hasn't been that successful. The new DC

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Speaker 1: se Kelvin Shepherd was playing in the NFL five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Just crazy to me. And I would add the schedule

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Speaker 1: early is brutal. In the first six weeks of the season,

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Speaker 1: they play at Green Bay, at Baltimore, at Cincinnati at

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Speaker 1: Kansas City that doesn't include Bears at home. Browns at

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Speaker 1: home should be a breeze. So I think you can

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Speaker 1: fall behind the eight ball, and I just think it's

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Speaker 1: hard to play catch up from there. I'm gonna go

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: under a little bit of regression. I still like the team,

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Speaker 1: the talent, and I do like Dan Campbell. I just

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Speaker 1: think it's a lot to replace, especially on the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: all right, J Mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I think that the biggest point is

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Speaker 2: you lose both your coordinators, and even if Dan Campbell

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01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: is sort of the force and he's the culture center

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Speaker 2: which cannot be taken away and cannot be underestimated, there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be some changes. There have to be in that case.

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: And the only thing, the only thing that makes me

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 2: think maybe under is still a little pushing it is

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Speaker 2: that ten and a half's not that much. Like we're

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: not talking about like a twelve or something like that

1307
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Speaker 2: kind of situation. I could easily see this team winning

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01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: eleven games, but man, I do not. I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go against you because we didn't go against each other,

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't think at all last week. So if for

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: no other reason than that I'm gonna go over. I

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: think they can win eleven games. I think that's probably

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: where I would have them slotted. It's gonna be it's

1314
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Speaker 2: gonna be dependent on a lot of factors. That'll be

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Speaker 2: true for all teams. I still like a lot of

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Speaker 2: what this team is about, and so I'll go over

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Speaker 2: just by half game.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this really quick and we'll get back

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: to Brandon. I think I went into my head in

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Speaker 1: my head saying I'm going under without really actually factoring

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: in the number, because.

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01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: Tens, not that I know.

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Speaker 1: Number I know, and that's why I sort of instantly

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: had regret and I was like, they're really losing seven games, right,

1325
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: But listen, I put it on the record, no going

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01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: back now, I'll take the under. I already don't feel

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Speaker 1: good about it. Brandon, who's up next?

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Speaker 10: Well, also, last point there too is the lines under

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 10: is minus hots, the overs plus hots. So just that's

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Speaker 10: an FYI there for you.

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Speaker 2: Aaron.

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Speaker 10: Packers are next that nine point five, nine and a

1333
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 10: half wins, and this one kind of shocked me. Nine

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 10: and a half over the Vikings over the Bears. I

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Speaker 10: don't know why, But what are your thoughts Jamie, are

1336
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 10: you go first on this one?

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Speaker 2: So I'm torn here because again that's a really low number,

1338
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: but I'm down on them going into this year. I

1339
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: just am I don't know about the quarterback right now.

1340
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about Lafleur as a tough like coach.

1341
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: It's a very very tough division. If somebody's gonna take

1342
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: a step back, I think it's most likely to be then,

1343
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 2: because I think the drubbing that they took from Philadelphia

1344
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: that one might take some time to get over. And

1345
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 2: you've seen some guys leave and move on, and you

1346
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: just kind of I just I don't like. Just my

1347
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: feeling about them is kind of sour. Just it's like

1348
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: I need to take a Toms. When I start thinking

1349
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: about the Green Bay Packers, I'm gonna go under, even

1350
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 2: though that nine and a half is and that's not

1351
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna be good if you're a Packers fan. But I

1352
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 2: just I just don't love them this year. I'm out

1353
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: on the Packers. I'm I think that I think under

1354
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: is the play.

1355
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be I'll be real is that I'm gonna

1356
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: take the under as well. And it's funny because I

1357
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: went back and looked, and you know, it's easy to

1358
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: forget they won eleven games. Part of it is because

1359
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: Detroit got the one seed. Minnesota won fourteen games. Here's

1360
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: the truth on those eleven wins, though. They went one

1361
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: in five against the division, swept by Minnesota, swept by Detroit,

1362
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: split with Chicago. Here are their wins Indie, Tennessee, Houston,

1363
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. They swept the AFC North, who was on

1364
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: the schedule, one win against Chicago, who obviously wasn't very good,

1365
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: one win against San Francisco late in the year when

1366
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: the game when they were already tanking the season, one

1367
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: win against New War. I mean, you go through the schedule,

1368
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of great wins on the schedule.

1369
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: They did beat the Los Angeles Rams in LA. That's

1370
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 1: really kind of it though. And so I think, and

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about this, but obviously I

1372
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: think everybody assumes the Vikings will take a little bit

1373
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: of a regression because it's hard to win fourteen games

1374
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: two years in a row. But I just think that

1375
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: you look at who they actually beat, you look at

1376
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: the fact that Chicago, in theory should be better, and

1377
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: you look at the fact that again. You know you're

1378
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: playing the uh, you're playing the cross division games with

1379
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: like the NFC East, which obviously has some tough matchups,

1380
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: and and the AFC West, which of course gives you

1381
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: gives you some teams there as well, so they don't

1382
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: play the whole AFC West, but you get the points.

1383
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: So I'm going under, I'm with you, not a fan.

1384
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: We're running. We're running quick. So we'll be quick on

1385
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: these last two, which is unfortunate because they're two great teams.

1386
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: But Brandon, go ahead, who's next?

1387
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: Vikings eight and a half? Aaron, you go first on

1389
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, So I'll be real Listen. Obviously, JJ

1390
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy not only the biggest question on this team, I

1391
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: think maybe the biggest question in this division or and

1392
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: maybe in the NFL excuse me, you know, and depending

1393
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: on what report you hear, it's you know, it's differing.

1394
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, today he looks good, yesterday he looked terrible.

1395
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: Whatever you said, what'd you say? Eight and a half?

1396
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: Eight and a half, yep, you know, I'm actually gonna

1397
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: take the over. And it's because one, I just think

1398
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: that Sam Darnold was a byproduct of Kevin O'Connell more

1399
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: than anything else. I don't think the drop off is

1400
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: going to be that big. And then also you look

1401
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: at this schedule, you know it's kind of the reverse

1402
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 1: of the Lions. First five games include Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, Browns.

1403
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: By the way, they do have to play two straight

1404
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: games in London, which is kind of weird, but like

1405
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: I looked it up, their first eight games they play

1406
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: one true road game. Again, there's a couple of games

1407
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: in London. I'm gonna go over eight and a half.

1408
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: I think even nine and eight is in play there.

1409
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: See, I'm do you. I'll make it quick. I love

1410
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: the coach and that's the first thing. First thing I

1411
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: look at is just like I feel like he's a

1412
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: stabilizing force for them. I think he's going to be

1413
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: exactly the kind of guy that will keep JJ McCarthy

1414
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: right in line with where he needs him to be.

1415
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: They've got a ton of skill talent there. I thought

1416
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: last year was kind of a bit of a down

1417
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 2: year certainly for them. I think they step back up.

1418
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: I think they will replace the Packers this year as

1419
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: being the other team to really pay attention to in

1420
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: that division.

1421
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 10: Last one be Yep, Bears eight and a half, same

1422
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 10: win total as the Vikings. J Mart, you go first,

1423
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 10: I'm going under.

1424
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: I would like to think they would be better than that,

1425
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: but I just I think there's just a lot of

1426
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: new pieces. It's going to take some time. I don't

1427
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: want to overrate or anything that's happening at Camp. I

1428
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: know it haven't been great for Caleb so far, but

1429
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: I just there's just a lot of new faces in

1430
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 2: new places, and they're all right there in Chicago, So

1431
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: I think it's going to take a little bit of time.

1432
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 2: But I think you're going to see some real positive

1433
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: things from them. But I think I think they're likely

1434
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: to be about an eight win team.

1435
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: I'll differ, just go over, maybe not significantly. If I'm

1436
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: taking the Packers under, I'll take them over.

1437
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: You know.

1438
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: I'll just be quick on this. But you look at

1439
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: the schedule. In theory, they could get off to a

1440
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: reasonably hot start. Do have Vikings at Lions, but then

1441
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: you get the Cowboys, Raiders, you get Saints early in

1442
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: the year, you get the Giants early in the year. Yeah,

1443
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: And I just think it's such a coaching upgrade. And

1444
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: I know Caleb Williams hasn't been great. We could do

1445
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: a whole ten minute, fifteen to twenty minute segment just

1446
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: on the Bears and the mixed reports that have come

1447
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: out of their training camp so far. I will go

1448
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: a slight over because I just think the coaching can't

1449
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: be much worse than it was a year I don't

1450
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: think that in any way could be worse than it

1451
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: was a year ago. So I will say over. So

1452
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 1: it sounds like, let's see if I remember this correctly,

1453
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: I have Lions under Packers, under Vikings over Bears over

1454
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: j mart you have Lions over Vikings over Packers, under

1455
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: Bears under. So good. We different on two We different

1456
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: on the lines, we different on the Bears. We will

1457
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: see what happens next week. We'll be back NFC South

1458
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: interesting division to say the least. We'll preview that next week.

1459
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,919
Speaker 1: But speaking to next, Steve Desager, the extended update, everything

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Speaker 7: We'll get to the NFL in a moment, But sir,

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 7: I do I did find another Rockies item?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, between place.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's mostly a hard place for this team

1479
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 7: this year. We mentioned the Rockies lost earlier tonight eighteen

1480
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 7: nothing at Baltimore. So their record this year twenty seven

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Speaker 7: and seventy seven with no end in sight. At some point,

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 7: they're going to get to the end of the schedule.

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 7: I just it doesn't seem like it's ever going to

1484
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 7: get here. But they had a trade getting rid of

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 7: an infielder, Ryan McMahon from Fame Modern Day High School

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01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 7: in southern California. This week he'd been an infielder for

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 7: almost a decade for the Rockies, gets dealt to the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Stats Inc.

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Speaker 7: Looks up and compares his career stats, because it is

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 7: well known that your offensive stats are better if you

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01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 7: play in Colorado at Corsfield. Okay, well, it turned out

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Speaker 7: that for Ryan McMahon's career, sixty two percent of his

1493
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 7: RBIs came at home. How striking is that they compared

1494
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 7: it with basically everybody else who's ever played baseball in

1495
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 7: the entire live ball era, going back one hundred years.

1496
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 7: They looked at a list of everyone who had at

1497
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 7: least four hundred career RBIs like this guy does. Only

1498
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 7: one other player had a higher percentage of his rbi

1499
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 7: is coming home. Ever, ever, that's crazy, and that one

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 7: other player was a former All Star for the Rockies.

1501
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: Godless, that's funny.

1502
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 7: So this year's Colorado team again truly wretched. I looked

1503
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 7: it up. The batting average at home to sixty when

1504
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 7: they don't get to play at coors Field. The team

1505
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 7: batting average is two toh eight for the season. And

1506
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 7: this guy that was just traded, Ryan McMahon, was batting

1507
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 7: two seventeen overall. This year, even with half his games

1508
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 7: at coors Field and a two forty career hitter ouch

1509
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 7: to the NFL the preseason schedule, guys starts thirst Thursday,

1510
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 7: July thirty. First is almost day, That is correct?

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01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: Whoa the Hall of Fame game? Right?

1512
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 7: Lions Chargers in the Hall of Fame game. Everybody else

1513
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,919
Speaker 7: starts up in August for exhibition games. But the Houston

1514
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 7: Texans this summer did sign running back Nick Chubb. Good thing,

1515
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 7: it turns out, because running back Joe Mixon will miss

1516
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 7: extended camp time with a foot injury. He'll be reevaluated

1517
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 7: closer to opening day in September. Injury for the Titans.

1518
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 7: Today at practice, NFL Network says wide receiver Trailon Burks

1519
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 7: broke his collar bone that he was hurt diving for

1520
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 7: a pass. Jets quarterback Justin Fields returned to limited practice

1521
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 7: today after a dislocated toe this week. All is not

1522
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 7: lost people. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is week to week

1523
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 7: with a bad back and will not return to practice

1524
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 7: on Monday. The Rams backup QB is Jimmy Garoppolo. Bears

1525
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 7: rookie wide receiver Luther Burden missed practice again with his

1526
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 7: hamstring injury. The Dolphins lost Already Burns to a torn

1527
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 7: ACL so they've signed two defensive backs, Mike Hilton and

1528
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 7: Jack Jones. The Vikings gave safety Josh mttellisa three year

1529
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: extension where twenty five million dollars guaranteed a note on

1530
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 7: a game. In Major League Soccer today, most of the

1531
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 7: games in the last couple of years have been streaming

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 7: only because of their Apple contract. It's a league that

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01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 7: has largely disappeared from your regular cable channels. FS one

1534
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 7: had a game and it was with Miami Lionel Messi's team.

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Speaker 1: Today, it's a hot topic in the internet streets right now.

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: So what happened?

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 7: We had the MLS All Star Game this last Wednesday

1538
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 7: and Miami sat two of its stars did not have

1539
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 7: them play in the All Star Game. So by rule,

1540
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 7: the MLS says, if you don't play in our All

1541
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 7: Star Game, you don't play the very next game on

1542
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 7: the schedule for your team. Lionel Messi had to sit

1543
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 7: in the stands with his teammate Jordi Alba and serve

1544
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 7: a one game suspension today. While FS one had a

1545
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 7: game that finished zero zero Miami against Cincinnati. Wow in

1546
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 7: women's soccer, Fox TV as the Eurofinal on Sunday. What

1547
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 7: a matchup noon Eastern Time, Spain, the defending Women's World

1548
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 7: Cup champion against England, which won the last Euro tournament. England,

1549
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 7: amazingly is still alive in this tourney. They won their

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 7: semi finally in overtime against Italy, tying the game in

1551
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 7: the ninety six minute, scored again with a minute left

1552
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 7: in the ot and England in its quarterfinals scored two

1553
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 7: late goals and then one on penalty kicks. Even though

1554
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 7: they were stopped on three of their penalty kicks in

1555
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 7: a row, they still wound up the advancing So it's

1556
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 7: England Spain in the Eurofinal for women's soccer Tomorrow. Also

1557
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 7: Fox TV Sunday has yet another IndyCar race. They're going

1558
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 7: to be on the road course at Monterey in northern California.

1559
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 7: Just four races left in the IndyCar season. PGA Tour

1560
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 7: stops in Minnesota. The PGA's Tour Championship is less than

1561
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 7: a month away. It starts August twenty first, and the

1562
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,480
Speaker 7: Baseball Hall of Fame inductions are on Sunday. MLB Speedway

1563
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 7: Classic is in one week. There will be a ballgame

1564
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 7: at Bristol Motor Speedway next Saturday, Braves against the Reds

1565
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 7: on Fox TV.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. To Sager, covered a lot of ground.

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01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of excitement with that Pristal

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01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway game. So can't wait, Yes, cannot wait a

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01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: week from now, Fox Sports Radio. That was to Sager.

1570
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: I am Aaron Tors of course, Jason Martin joining me.

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: We're taking you up till two a m. Eastern, and boy,

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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: oh boy, do we have a lot to discuss in

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01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: out We mentioned golf by the way, well tell you

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: what We're gonna be talking nothing but golf at the

1575
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: top of the next hour, Happy Gilmore two. If you

1576
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, cover your ears. But we have a

1577
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: lot to discuss with the movie that has certainly the

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: hour three tours in Martin, Fox Sports Radio. We are

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Two hours

1580
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: in the books. If you missed any of it, we

1581
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: talked Hulk Hogan last hour rest in piece at seventy one.

1582
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: Lot of NFL including our NFC North official predictions. We're

1583
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: going division by division and and a little bit of

1584
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: college football as well. So we still got an hour left.

1585
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: We're taking it up till two am Eastern. Bernie Friddle

1586
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: follows us and should mention if you missed any today's show,

1587
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: you can always check out our show and all the others.

1588
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radios YouTube channel a ton of great videos

1589
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: from all of our shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1590
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video

1591
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you

1592
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: always have ins and access to our Fox Sports Radio videos.

1593
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. All right, j Mart, Uh,

1594
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: something interesting to talk about, so, and I should give

1595
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: the caveat maybe potentially some spoilers here in the next

1596
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,879
Speaker 1: few minutes. So if you have not seen Happy Gilmore

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01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: Too yet, Happy Gilmore To dropped on Friday on Netflix.

1598
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people have watched it, just based on

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: the reaction that I've seen in my social circles. Whatever,

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01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Happy Gilmore Too. We're gonna be talking

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01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: about it over the next few minutes. If you have

1602
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: not seen it and you do not want spoilers, hate

1603
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: to say it, it's going to be kind of hard

1604
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: to avoid them, so maybe turned just listen. You won't

1605
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: miss too much. But obviously the first movie came out

1606
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, there had been no follow up.

1607
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: We talked about this last week. I actually thought the

1608
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: fact that they waited this long when clearly they could

1609
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: have done it five years after the first one, ten

1610
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: years after the first one, fifteen years after the first one.

1611
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: I was hoping that it would work out well and

1612
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: that the movie would be pretty good. I enjoyed it.

1613
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 1: I have a lot of reasons why. I will explain

1614
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: them momentarily, But what was your take. I know you

1615
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: had a chance to watch it on Saturday.

1616
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 2: Afternoon, So last week I said, just prepare to be disappointed.

1617
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 2: And I think that's a smart way to approach something

1618
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: like this, especially after twenty nine years. If you go

1619
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: in expecting this to be better than the first one,

1620
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: or even as good as the first one, you're going

1621
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: to be disappointed. There was not going to be a chance.

1622
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: And there have been a lot of these where they

1623
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 2: have tried to make a sequel way after the original,

1624
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 2: and it's been a dumpster fire. It's been an absolute disaster.

1625
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber being an example of one. The Mask

1626
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: was an example of one. I just named two to

1627
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey movies. But there are a lot of other

1628
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 2: examples of this. This is not one of those. I

1629
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: do not think this is great by any means, but

1630
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's decent, and it's fan

1631
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 2: service for those with nostalgia for the original because and look,

1632
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm one of those. Like I told you this earlier,

1633
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: I told my wife this too today. I was a

1634
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: massive fan of the original. Actually, that and Billy Madison both.

1635
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: I owned them both on VHS, yes, kids, that's a thing, videotape.

1636
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 2: And I had friends and we would watch Happy Gilmore

1637
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: probably twice a week for years. Wow. I mean I

1638
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: watched it. I knew the think by heart, like top

1639
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 2: to bottom. We watched it more than Billy Mattison. Actually,

1640
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 2: the sports tie in was more more my bag, as

1641
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: it always has been. But I loved the film. I did.

1642
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: I thought that it landed. I remember watching it at

1643
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: the theater that I worked at. As a matter of fact,

1644
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: I worked at the movie theater that ran Happy Gilmore

1645
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 2: when I was in high school, and just I remember

1646
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: seeing it being blown away by just it was better

1647
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: than I thought it was going to be, and it

1648
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: was just super entertaining, and so I did not go

1649
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: into this like feeling like this was going to be just,

1650
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, out of this world. But at the same time,

1651
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: I just thought, all right, just do the original film

1652
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: justice in terms of don't give us a bad feeling

1653
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: about Happy gilmore long term, because sometimes you can watch

1654
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: something and it can completely ruin how you felt about

1655
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: the original. Probably the most recent example of this is Joker,

1656
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: the Todd Phillips film with Joaquin Phoenix. The first film

1657
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 2: was I mean, it changed a lot, it changed a

1658
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: lot of perceptions, and it was an incredible movie in

1659
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: a lot of respects. And then the sequel, which I

1660
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 2: don't think Todd Phillips even wanted to make, you know,

1661
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: really dumped all over the first one and wrecked everything

1662
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: about the original movie. So it's a thing that can

1663
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 2: be done. I can very gleefully tell you that's not

1664
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 2: the case here. While I don't think this is a

1665
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: film I'm going to rewatch a million times or anything

1666
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: like that from the first one, as long as you

1667
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 2: go into it with measured expectations to shut your brain

1668
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: off and just enjoy it and kind of maybe take

1669
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: you back to a time where comedy didn't have to

1670
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: make any kind of sense. It wasn't trying to make

1671
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: any kind of statement. It was just trying to be funny.

1672
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 2: Not every joke lands, but not every joke in virtually

1673
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,799
Speaker 2: any comedy that's ever been made lands. The one critique

1674
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: and then I want to hear some of what you

1675
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: have to say. The one thing that they did try

1676
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 2: to do virtually every joke that they did from the original,

1677
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 2: and they tried to show flashbacks of everything so you

1678
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: would remember, and then they would say, oh, yeah, so

1679
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: this is why we're doing this again. A little bit

1680
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: on the nose for my taste, Like I kind of

1681
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: wish there had been a little bit more original stuff

1682
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: as opposed to continually trying to play every single hit,

1683
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Like not every hit on the album needs to be played,

1684
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: just a couple with all the shows. But outside of that,

1685
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: it was just entertaining. I think the best way to

1686
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 2: say it is just it was an easy watch, Aaron.

1687
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: It was easy to watch. I laughed a few times.

1688
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: It was cool to just kind of see all the

1689
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: people that popped up in various roles. The cameo list

1690
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: is outrageous, as you would expect. It's Adam Sandler and

1691
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: his friends. That's what his movies have been for a

1692
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 2: long long time. But this could have been far worse

1693
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: than it was. Like, I'm glad that I saw this,

1694
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 2: and I don't think that it it wrecked the legacy

1695
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: of the franchise, all right.

1696
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: So I kind of have the same perspective that you did.

1697
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 1: I think the way you put it, and it sounds negative,

1698
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: but it isn't of it could have been a lot

1699
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: worse than it was. Is I don't think sounds as

1700
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: bad as it is. And what I would say is

1701
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: I feel like anyone and again I mentioned this off

1702
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the top, Jmard, I know you're not as plugged into

1703
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:24,719
Speaker 1: social media anymore whatever, but it was like I would say,

1704
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: probably the reaction that I've seen is probably sixty five

1705
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: percent of the camp of you and I and I

1706
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: would say about thirty to thirty five percent of worst

1707
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: movie ever.

1708
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's ridiculous.

1709
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 1: And it's like, what were you if you came in

1710
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: expecting Casablanca or Sound of Music or the Original Godfather

1711
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 1: or you know, AMC top five movies of all time? Yeah,

1712
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: you're going to be disappointed, but you probably should have

1713
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: watched the old Happy Gilmore before you tune this on.

1714
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: The original Happy Gilmore was a lot of things. It

1715
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: was very funny, it was whatever. It wasn't casablaca or

1716
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: a sound of music. It was goofy and it was whatever.

1717
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: And I think so many of the things that you

1718
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: said were my takeaways. Is one. I just it reminded

1719
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: me of a nineties comedy that doesn't get made anymore

1720
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: of it's really goofy. Listen. There was a lot of

1721
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: sophomore humor, if that's what you want to call it.

1722
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: But guess what, Happy Gilmore is kind of a you know,

1723
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: sophomore guy. I mean, I don't think he's a you know,

1724
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: reading Shakespeare in his free time. The last time that

1725
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 1: I watched Happy Gilmour one, So I just I thought

1726
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: it checked all the boxes. Is It wasn't the greatest

1727
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: thing ever, but it was really goofy. It was a

1728
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: nineties comedy. Not everything made perfect sense, Not everything had

1729
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: to make sense to your point, every joke didn't land.

1730
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: That's okay, by the way, when you said that, I

1731
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: thought of we didn't even get a chance to talk

1732
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: about it last week. But the Shane Gillis monologue at

1733
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: the Aspies, right, It's like every joke didn't land. Guess what,

1734
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: anyone who has literally ever been to a live comedy

1735
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: show knows that not every joke does. It doesn't.

1736
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, not every radio segment lands, dingo. Not not

1737
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: every take works. Sometimes something sound better in your head

1738
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 2: and then you accidentally say them out loud and you realize,

1739
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: oh no, that was not That was not what I

1740
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be. Like Nobody's bat in a

1741
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: thousand here. Yes.

1742
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: What I really liked about it was a couple of things.

1743
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: Is one, it stayed true to what it is, goofy stupid,

1744
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe too stupid at some points. Whatever doesn't totally you know, crow,

1745
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a perfect, you know, example

1746
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: of what would happen in real life. But it's not

1747
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I think, listen, I don't want to

1748
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: go too far down this road. But there seemed to

1749
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: be no other agenda other than making you laugh and.

1750
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: N There absolutely was not that you're not there's not

1751
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 2: a seems to be like no, this this was when

1752
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 2: movies were there. You know what the best movie this

1753
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: year is?

1754
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: I don't want it's f one, Okay, I haven't seen it.

1755
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 2: It's because it's like Top Gun was a couple of

1756
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 2: years ago. Even if you're not, and I've become a

1757
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: huge F one fan, but even if you're not, it

1758
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You go to that movie and you're like, man,

1759
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,839
Speaker 2: I felt like I just watched the movie from the eighties.

1760
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: I felt like I just watched the movie from the nineties,

1761
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 2: even the early two thousands. Like you just go You're entertained.

1762
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: It's fast paced, it's fun, you got characters to root for,

1763
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 2: and it's not trying to push anything down your throat.

1764
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 2: There have been some other good movies this year that

1765
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: have been able to do that as well, but F

1766
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 2: One is the best film of the year when it

1767
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: comes to just being what a movie is supposed to be.

1768
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 2: And the only reason I mentioned that in this conversation

1769
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 2: is because what you wanted Happy Gilmore Too to be.

1770
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 2: If you remember what Adam Sandler did back in the

1771
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: early days of his post SNL career, that's what this is,

1772
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: for better or worse. There's some things about it I

1773
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 2: wish weren't there. There's some things about it that I'm

1774
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: glad were there. Some decisions that they made that I

1775
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 2: really liked, and some things that made me roll my eyes.

1776
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. Man. Here's what it was,

1777
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: not grown ups and grown ups too, and the Coming

1778
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: to America retread and all that stuff like. There are

1779
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: really a ton of examples of the aging stars, like

1780
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: fifty eight year old Adam Sandler and things like that.

1781
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: Even his friends who've come out and tried to make

1782
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: other movies and they've just stunk out loud. This doesn't

1783
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: And a lot of the people from those films are

1784
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 2: in this because they're his friends. But I do think,

1785
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 2: without trying to pick nits on it, this was just

1786
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: a return to when movies were there simply to entertained.

1787
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 2: Their purpose was to entertain the person who bought the

1788
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: ticket or in this case, had the subscription and used

1789
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: their time for two hours to sit down and watch something,

1790
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: and they had one goal in mind, and the person

1791
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 2: that sat down had one reason to watch this, and

1792
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 2: those two things were in sync. Now, if the jokes

1793
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: don't land for you, they don't land for you, but

1794
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 2: they're there, and they're not presented mean spirited, and they're

1795
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: not presented to do anything else but make you laugh.

1796
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Yes, a couple other things that stand out to me

1797
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: that I really liked. Without giving away too much, essentially

1798
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: every prominent golfer probably that is alive right now outside

1799
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: of Tiger Wood spoiler alert is in the movie. I

1800
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: won't give away too much of who was in or

1801
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: what they did, but I thought that was awesome, and

1802
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: I you know, I was thinking about this, and I again,

1803
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to make Happy Gilmour too

1804
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 1: into something that it wasn't. But I thought it was like,

1805
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: weirdly a celebration of golf in a strange way. But

1806
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: then also I think you could tell what this movie

1807
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: meant to current actual golfers that they wanted to be

1808
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: part of it, you.

1809
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1810
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: It's like I'm guessing all of the guys that were

1811
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: in the movies, you know, pick a prominent golfer. We

1812
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 1: don't have to name names, but probably somewhere in like

1813
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 1: the twenty eight to thirty eight year old range, like

1814
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 1: that's where the best golfers in the world are. Their

1815
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: prime is kind of early thirties whatever. They all probably

1816
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: grew up with this original and they were probably all,

1817
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, tickled sounds like something my grandma would say,

1818
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: but like they were probably like really excited.

1819
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 2: To say, American one thing you do want to include it?

1820
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: Your guy's fair fair fair. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't really

1821
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: thought of it from that perspective, but that's fair. But yes,

1822
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: pick the prominent current American golfers and even some of

1823
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: the historically great ones. They are in it. But I

1824
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: felt like it seemed to me like something that these

1825
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: golfers were excited to be part of. Does that make

1826
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: sense to you? Like, and that to me is kind

1827
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 1: of a cool thing. It's just they're there. You know,

1828
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: they're there real selves, but they're being a goofy version

1829
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: of themselves because they're in this goofy movie. And I

1830
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: really enjoyed that part of it as well.

1831
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think everything he said is right.

1832
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 2: Like I do think they all have some nostalgia for

1833
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 2: it and wanted to be a part of it. And

1834
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 2: all of them played their roles. Some had larger roles

1835
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 2: than others, certainly, but uh, it just there was definitely

1836
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 2: a sense that nobody was phoning it in for a cameo.

1837
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 2: Like the guys that were representing golf showed themselves really

1838
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: well and were willing to take a joke about themselves

1839
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: in some cases really really effectively, or playoff or real

1840
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: life events really really effectively. There were a couple of

1841
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 2: really nice gags and a really like really good one liner,

1842
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: but again, like, yeah, if it's an American golfer that

1843
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 2: has existed over the past twenty five years, there's a

1844
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: good chance that they're in this film in some kind

1845
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: of a noteworthy role. And then like if you go

1846
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: through and you look at the credits, you see like

1847
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 2: Chris Shellios, the famous NHL or is just in the

1848
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 2: crowd in one of the shots and things like that.

1849
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 2: And then of course, look, you want to go pro

1850
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: wrestling real quick. I mean Maxwell Jacob Friedman plays one

1851
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 2: of his sons, and then Becky Lynch is on the

1852
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Maxi Golf team. That's a WWE wrestler and an ae

1853
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: W wrestler in the same movie. So that's a thing

1854
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 2: that you can also point to. But there's I mean,

1855
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: there's just a million things, and there's some Easter eggs

1856
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 2: and things that you don't pick up maybe originally, and

1857
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: then you kind of look at it again and you

1858
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 2: can see it. But yeah, I mean there's definitely who's

1859
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 2: who here, and I do think a lot of it

1860
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: is like it's almost more about how many people are

1861
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: in it than it is anything that's happening. Stories, you know,

1862
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 2: not particularly deep, nor does it have to be. I

1863
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: think that there will be some varying opinions on the

1864
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: choice that they made at the beginning, Yeah, to kind

1865
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: of set the stage to kind of reset everything to

1866
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 2: where there's something we're happy to go after. Again, I

1867
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 2: don't know how I felt about that. I like, through

1868
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the day I've seen like I understand

1869
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 2: why they did that in order to set up everything

1870
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: else that was going on, but I'm not sure. Like

1871
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: it was watching that where I did think to myself

1872
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily think that this film, well not necessarily.

1873
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 2: I know this film didn't need to exist. Like you

1874
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: go back to the original, you can see I mean,

1875
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: it had a great ending and it leaves you on

1876
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 2: that happy note where you can see the future for

1877
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 2: Happy and his family and everything that's happening, and you

1878
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 2: can envision that and you can play that out in

1879
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: your mind forever and not have to see it played

1880
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 2: out in front of you and unfortun you know, that

1881
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of comes crashing down early in the film, but

1882
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: at the same time, you get a redemption arc later

1883
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 2: that is absolutely phenomenal. And anybody that remembers the Shooter

1884
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: McGavin character at all, let's just say, without saying anything else,

1885
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 2: that Christopher MacDonald might be the highlight of the entire film.

1886
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Like he is absolutely perfect. He like that character goes

1887
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 2: down the analys. The Shooter McGavin character is as one

1888
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 2: of those that you're just never gonna forget if you

1889
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 2: were alive during that time frame. He was such a

1890
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: great antagonist. And he comes back and it's just it's awesome,

1891
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 2: and he just he plays it to a t. It's perfect,

1892
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 2: and that to me really helps out the movie. Like

1893
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 2: I think it goes above being just mediocre to be

1894
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 2: in you know, it's it's decent to pretty good. If

1895
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 2: you go into it with the right expectations and you

1896
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 2: have the right frame of nostalgia and you remember when

1897
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 2: movies were movies and they weren't trying to force anything

1898
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: down your gullet.

1899
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: Well, rap give it a grade. I'll just I'll say

1900
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: really quick, I just give it a solid B plus. Again,

1901
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: if you went in expecting a cinematic masterpiece, probably not

1902
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: for you, but you're probably an idiot. For thinking that

1903
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: it was going to redefine cinema as we knew it.

1904
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: So I love the cameos, I love the goofiness, I

1905
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: loved I loved the I actually liked the callbacks to

1906
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: the original because I'll be honest, I haven't seen the

1907
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: original a while. And listen, there are you know, characters

1908
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: that obviously the real character has since passed away, and

1909
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: they figure out a way to work in a friend

1910
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Speaker 1: or a relative or this or that. But but even

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Speaker 1: some of the things like that, I actually enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: flashbacks just to kind of reset my brain as well.

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Speaker 1: But I give a solid B plus. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you know. I'm gonna run home

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Speaker 1: and watch it for a second time the second that

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Speaker 1: we get off air, and I'll watch it a third

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Speaker 1: time this week when I have nothing going on. But

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Speaker 1: it was a fun Friday night. And I'll wrap by saying,

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Speaker 1: I hope we get more movies like this. Not not

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Speaker 1: necessarily happy to go more three, but just hey, it's

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Speaker 1: okay to just be stupid and have fun and crack

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Speaker 1: jokes and don't worry if one joke doesn't land and

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Speaker 1: you offend somebody. I had a fun Friday night with

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Speaker 1: my wife. You know, we made some popcorn, we put

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Speaker 1: down our phones. I had a fun Friday night. How

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Speaker 1: would you grade it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I think the way you just

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Speaker 2: phrased it kind of makes me think even more positively

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Speaker 2: about it. I was probably in the sea range. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's average to pretty good somewhere in that neighborhood. But

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna give it a B minus because

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Speaker 2: I think that have fun, you know, laugh, don't worry

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Speaker 2: about every little thing clicking and all those kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: How much of it lands for you? How much fun

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Speaker 2: can you have spotting everybody and being shocked by a

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Speaker 2: couple of the people that pop up at least in

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Speaker 2: the roles that they show up in, and all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and when you leave it, or you

1939
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Speaker 2: just like what a waste of time? No, you don't,

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Speaker 2: because I do think that, as you said, it's a

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Speaker 2: fun Friday night. It's not trying to cure disease or

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Speaker 2: change anything.

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Speaker 1: It's just tell you how to feel about global warming,

1944
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Speaker 1: exactly whatever, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: The agenda is simply to be fun and as long

1946
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Speaker 2: as you don't go into it toostodgily. I think it

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Speaker 2: accomplishes that goal, so it gets a higher grade for

1948
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Speaker 2: me than I anticipated weeks ago. I thought, yeah, this

1949
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Speaker 2: is probably really going to turn out to not have

1950
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Speaker 2: been a grand idea. I pull back on that, and

1951
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Speaker 2: I think a B minus is right around or B

1952
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Speaker 2: minus somewhere in that neighborhood. I thought it was fun

1953
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Speaker 2: and there's no reason to really poke so many holes

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Speaker 2: in everything anymore. Let's be a little optimistic out there.

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Speaker 1: There you go. We somehow got through twenty one minutes

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Speaker 1: without really giving away any spoilers.

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Speaker 2: We certainly tried.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we did it for you the audience. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we mentioned earlier with Hulk Hogan. If you

1960
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Speaker 1: have any thoughts, you can tweet us in at Aaron

1961
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Speaker 1: Underscore Tour as I'm twitter at Jmart Radio. What the heck,

1962
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Speaker 1: I'll give out the phone number two if anybody's got

1963
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Speaker 1: any hot takes on on Happy Gilmore. The phone number

1964
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Speaker 1: is one eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one

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Speaker 1: eight seven one eight seven seven nine nine six six

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Speaker 1: three six nine Again one eight seven seven nine nine

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Speaker 1: six six three six nine one eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine on Fox. Brand to make sure those phone lines

1969
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Speaker 1: are open. We'll come back. We'll take some of your tweets,

1970
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Speaker 1: your calls. We will get to a little bit more

1971
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Speaker 1: of a serious topic. Jamar. This is one that you

1972
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Speaker 1: brought to my attention, as Kendrick Perkin turns uh. Perk

1973
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Speaker 1: has had a lot to say about a lot of people,

1974
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Speaker 1: but just depends on the day what you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: out of them. We'll discuss that next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1977
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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 3: listen live.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aertris Jason Martin broadcasting

1981
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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. You won't believe

1982
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Speaker 1: what what NBA analyst had to say about Luca don

1983
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Speaker 1: Just actually you probably will. We'll get to that in

1984
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Speaker 1: just a moment before we do. Though. Final tome this evening,

1985
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Speaker 1: Steve the Seger, what is.

1986
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Speaker 7: Trending something up in the Atlanta Braves game today tonight?

1987
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 7: I should say they did lose in ten inning, six

1988
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 7: or five at Texas Rangers have won five in a row.

1989
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 7: Michael Harris of the Braves had four hits. When he'd

1990
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Speaker 7: had three hits, he'd had a double, a triple, and

1991
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Speaker 7: a home run. He only needed a single in the

1992
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Speaker 7: last at bet to hit for the cycle. He hit

1993
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Speaker 7: it to left field. The left fielder tried to make

1994
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Speaker 7: the catch running up and missed it, and in a

1995
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Speaker 7: tie game, of course, Michael Harris didn't stay at first.

1996
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Speaker 7: He wound up with a triple as the ball went

1997
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Speaker 7: toward the wall. Turns out, it's actually statistically much more

1998
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Speaker 7: difficult to finish a game with two triples and a

1999
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Speaker 7: homer than it is to hit for the cycle. He

2000
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Speaker 7: finished with a double, two triples, and a homer. Turns out,

2001
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Speaker 7: going back to the year nineteen hundred, guys hit for

2002
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 7: the cycle over three hundred times in Major League history,

2003
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 7: but this two triples and a homer seventy three times,

2004
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Speaker 7: so take that. Rangers d h Jock Peterson will return

2005
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 7: Sunday after a broken hand. Dodgers lost four to two

2006
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Speaker 7: at Boston, but Mookie bats Dodger Alfielder ex of Boston,

2007
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Speaker 7: did not start again, but returned. He'd been out for

2008
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Speaker 7: personal reasons, apparently a death in the family. He did

2009
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Speaker 7: arrive during the game came on as a pinch hitter

2010
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Speaker 7: in the ninth and struck out to end the game.

2011
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Speaker 7: By the way, if you hadn't heard, Fenway Park's food

2012
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 7: workers are on strike there this weekend. Dodger reliever Blake

2013
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Speaker 7: Trining will be activated by Monday. Dodger starting pitcher Blake'snell

2014
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Speaker 7: at Triple A tonight four and two third, scoreless innings,

2015
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Speaker 7: no hits allowed. He had seven strikeouts, four walks. Garrett Crochet,

2016
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Speaker 7: Boston All Star pitcher, got the win against LA four

2017
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Speaker 7: to tonight twelve and for his record, he struck out

2018
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Speaker 7: ten and six innings. Clayton Kershaw the loss. Shoey Otania

2019
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Speaker 7: bell I did have a leadoff homer, his thirty eighth

2020
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Speaker 7: home run of the season, but the Dodger lead in

2021
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Speaker 7: the NLS, down to five games over San Diego, was

2022
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Speaker 7: a nine game lead just a few weeks ago. Padres

2023
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 7: ended a four game losing streak with a victory at

2024
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Speaker 7: Saint Louis three to one, Cards with just three hits.

2025
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Speaker 7: The Mets won their sixth game in a row, two

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Speaker 7: to one at San Francisco and still a half game

2027
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Speaker 7: lead over the Phillies, who beat the Yankees in New

2028
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 7: York today nine to four. The big news from New

2029
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Speaker 7: York not the acquisition of infielder Ahmed Rizzario, although that

2030
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 7: did happen from Washington tonight. Baseball's tread deadline comes up Thursday.

2031
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 7: Aaron Judge, Yankees outfielder, was placed on the injured list

2032
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Speaker 7: with a strained elbow. The late game tonight had Seattle

2033
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Speaker 7: winning seven to two at the Angels. Cal Raley of

2034
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Speaker 7: the Mariners hit his fortieth home run of the year.

2035
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Speaker 7: The record for most home runs in a season by

2036
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Speaker 7: a catcher is forty eight, set by Salvador Perez four

2037
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Speaker 7: years ago. Cleveland and Kansas City had a game rained

2038
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Speaker 7: out yesterday, so doubleheader today. In the first game, Kansas

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01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 7: City hit a three run homer in the tenth to

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Speaker 7: win against The Guardian's closer, Emmanuel Class, but Cleveland took

2041
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Speaker 7: the nightcap and Classe got the save. The Cubs won

2042
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 7: in a game that was scoreless through six. They won

2043
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Speaker 7: six to one at the White Sox, while Milwaukee was

2044
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 7: beaten at home by Miami seven to four. So the

2045
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Speaker 7: Brewers and the Cubs are tied for first in the

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Speaker 7: NL Central and Miami, by the way, has won twenty

2047
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Speaker 7: of its last twenty eight games. Toronto has won nineteen

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Speaker 7: of its last twenty three. Toronto won six to one

2049
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Speaker 7: at Detroit, and it's been a horrendous couple weeks for

2050
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Speaker 7: the Detroit Tigers and they've lost six in a row.

2051
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 7: This is a game that with Trek Scubel on the metal,

2052
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 7: was scoreless through seven, six to one for the visitors.

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Speaker 7: Though the final, the Tiger offense went two for twenty

2054
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Speaker 7: nine with thirteen strikeouts. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati each won Baltimore

2055
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 7: eighteen to nothing over Colorado. The Rockies offense was two

2056
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Speaker 7: for twenty eight at the plate. Colorado's record twenty seven

2057
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Speaker 7: and seventy seven wins for the A's and Washington in

2058
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 7: the NFL TI and Swide receiver trail On Burks, according

2059
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Speaker 7: to NFL Network, broke his collar bone in practice today.

2060
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 7: Texans running back Joe Mixon will Mis extended camp time

2061
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 7: with a foot injury. WNBA wins for Washington and for

2062
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 7: La on a layup at the buzzer at New York.

2063
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 7: Breonna Stewart of New York left early with a leg injury.

2064
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Speaker 7: A reminder. In women's soccer, the Eurofinals on Fox TV

2065
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 7: Sunday noon Eastern Time, Spain against England, and we do

2066
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 7: have the live golf stop in the UK ready for

2067
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,759
Speaker 7: its final round not too long away. It's Joaquin Neeman

2068
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 7: leading by six. Fox TV has Sunday's IndyCar Race in Monterey,

2069
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 7: Northern California's road Course and a reminder of the Baseball

2070
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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame inductions are Sunday five players in this

2071
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Speaker 7: year back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Steve Sagar, have a great evening,

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow, back as always. Okay, Arnie Spanier, he'll be there,

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Speaker 1: Chris Plank, Mark Willard Ephraim yep, okay, perfect, wel we'll

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Speaker 1: take back to normal, back to normal, whatever normal is?

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Speaker 1: Is there ever normal? When Arnie Spaniers on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think we all know the end.

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Speaker 7: I think that's Roman numeral fifty two. Ever normal.

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Speaker 1: I like how we can make that joke. But the

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Speaker 1: audience also gets it because Arnie tweets out his rundown

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Speaker 1: every single week.

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Speaker 7: So if handwritten Romo numerals on a yellow legal.

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Speaker 1: Fan, once we get past V I I that's seven.

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Speaker 1: After that, I'm a little bit lost.

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Speaker 9: Arnie.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why I thought that maybe the Super Bowl

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01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 7: by this time would go with actually numbers that we

2088
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 7: know they had a chance at fifty once they didn't

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Speaker 7: do it there, I guess, I guess they're never going

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Speaker 7: to do that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you to Segrev A great evening.

2092
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Speaker 1: We'll listen to you tomorrow with the Fellas. Let's switch

2093
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: gears because we got to talk about someone. I don't

2094
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Speaker 1: know how to say this, but I don't even know

2095
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 1: how to set up this this sound. But I've said

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Speaker 1: it a million times, you and I on air when

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01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic and a Seger was here with us, and

2098
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Speaker 1: when Luka Doncic was traded from the Dallas Mavericks to

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers, just you know, obviously a stunning move.

2100
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 1: The takes started flying, and the takes frankly never really stopped. Well,

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Speaker 1: one guy who's never afraid to say what he has

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Speaker 1: to say. I don't really know what to make of it.

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Speaker 1: It's Kendrick Perkins. So Kendrick Perkins obviously a front facing

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Speaker 1: member at ESPN if you watch ESPN at all, pretty

2105
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Speaker 1: critical of Luka Doncicz throughout the playoffs, throughout his entire time,

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Speaker 1: and basically when the Lakers lost, kind of put all

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Speaker 1: the blame on him anyway. I want to play some

2108
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: sound both from during the NBA playoffs, but then also

2109
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Speaker 1: what Kendrick Perkins had to say about Luca this week. Mary,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, play us the first sound from Luca. Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Perkins on Luca during the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Luca, a lot of people may whisper behind your back,

2113
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Speaker 9: but damn it, I'm gonna say it to your face.

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Speaker 9: It's time for you to stand on business.

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Speaker 1: Tom, for you to stand on business. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say it by in your back. I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 1: to your face. That was what Kendrick Perkins was saying,

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Speaker 1: what three months ago.

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Speaker 2: And he went on to talk about how he's slow,

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Speaker 2: he's out of shape, he didn't play defense, and this

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Speaker 2: was after he had had like thirty some points in

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Speaker 2: the game that night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was Perk was very much in the

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick Championship shape. You know, can't blame anything on

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Speaker 1: Lebron part of the narrative. Well, it's funny how much

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Speaker 1: things have changed for Kendrick Perkins. Remember Luka, Doncis has

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Speaker 1: not played a game in three months. This this week

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Speaker 1: is what Kendrick Perkins had to say about Luca.

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Speaker 9: I'm betting on Luca Doncis to win the MVP next season.

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01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 9: This is the type of commitment that I want to

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Speaker 9: see from a great player like Luca. I want to

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01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 9: see the videos of him working out. I want to

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01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 9: see that he's taken accountability for us losing weight and

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Speaker 9: getting in shape.

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Speaker 1: So that was Kendrick Perkins three months apart, zero games

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01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: played in between from Luca. You gotta stand on business too.

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Speaker 1: He is the MVP of this league. I'm putting it

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Speaker 1: on the record right now. What do you gotta say

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Speaker 1: about that, Jim?

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Speaker 2: I mean I alerted you to this because it was

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Speaker 2: just another example. Is like, dude, Kendrick, which one did

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Speaker 2: you mean? Like? Which one of them was true? Which

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01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 2: one of them was? You? You know, help him protect

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01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 2: your guy? And we all know who that guy is,

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01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: because he's got plenty of people seemingly protecting him right now,

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01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 2: saying all sorts of things to help his legacy out

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01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 2: and all these kinds of things cover for certain things

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01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 2: that are happening in his career and all that kind

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Speaker 2: But like Luke was out of shape and now he's

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Speaker 2: in shape. Is that? Is that what we're hearing or

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: whatever like this.

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01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 1: Like Ben Simmons made two threes in a row in

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: a work summer workout video, so now he's awesome. Is

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01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 1: that the equivalent of this?

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01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially. Yeah, it's like I guess like JaMarcus Russell,

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01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, threw again off his knees in shorts, and

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01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 2: so now he's going to win, you know, twelve games

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01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: this year for the Raiders. I don't I don't understand

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01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: any of this, like it just I hate the fact

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Speaker 2: that you have to keep on saying like if you

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01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 2: want to know why us being overexposed as people, there's

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01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 2: here's a prime example of it. Like, first off, Kenderick

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01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 2: Perkin is not very good anyway in my opinion, just mine. Look,

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01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: don't be grudging for making money. If they want to

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Speaker 2: put him on TV, that's that's that's their decision to make.

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01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: And good for him for maximizing the opportunities that you're getting.

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01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 2: But you you're on TV so much that you completely

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Speaker 2: go against your own point within three months because it's

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Speaker 2: like with no information said this other thing, with no

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Speaker 2: new information, no new information at all, like nothing nothing

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 2: to indicate anything, Like I'm picking him for MVP. You

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01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 2: mean the guy that you wanted to make sure he

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01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 2: stood on business three months ago, the guy that you

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Speaker 2: said was a defensive liability and it now made sense.

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Speaker 2: And like you you actually that night were basically saying

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Speaker 2: that it made sense for Dallas to want to trade

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Speaker 2: him away. That's the guy that you're saying is gonna

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Speaker 2: be the MVP. Because the dude that's gonna be the

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Speaker 2: MVP of the league's probably not somebody that you should

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Speaker 2: be arguing it was a good trade for that team

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01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 2: to make. And this was not this was he said

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: this the night of. He didn't say this after they

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01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 2: won the lottery and you get Cooper Flagg and then

2184
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: you could start talking about, well, maybe with Cooper Flagg,

2185
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a lot of things change that No,

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01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 2: we can't even go there. Man like Kendrick Perkins is

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01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: just another example of this. He's not the only one.

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01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're taking this shot at him right now,

2189
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 2: but that's just because we just played two pieces of

2190
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,799
Speaker 2: audio separated by about ninety days where he went from

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01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: he's the reason why Lebron can't win right now to

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01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the MVP of the league this year. Like,

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01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: what are we doing. How can if I listened to

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: that first thing, why am I listening to you at

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01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 2: all at that point? Like I know, at that point,

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01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 2: I'm just watching someone talking that doesn't even believe what

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01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 2: they say, because you can't be that hypocritical that fast.

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01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,959
Speaker 2: You just can't be. But we see it all all

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Speaker 2: the time in media right now.

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01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Well, and I'll just put a ball on it by

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Speaker 1: saying I was out on Ketrick Perkins after and I

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Speaker 1: think I've told this story to you on air, but

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01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: it was Luca related. It was we all spent three

2204
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 1: months trying to figure out the Luca trade and how

2205
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: it made sense and how do you get a star

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01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: in his primarily giving up one first round pick for

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: the brutal Anthony Davis, And no one could figure out

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01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: how the trade was so one sided in the favor

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Speaker 1: of the Lakers, And so the Lakers lose to the

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01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,879
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. And again, can't blame Lebron

2211
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: for you know, he kind of looked like a forty

2212
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: year old kind of a forgettable series. And so I'm

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I remember watching one of the shows and Kendrick Perkins

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Speaker 1: the day after the the day after the Lakers got

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01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 1: eliminated had the audacity to say something to the effect that,

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01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing of the Lakers didn't get enough in the

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Speaker 1: Luka doncicch trade.

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01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he.

2219
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,679
Speaker 1: Was like, well, how come they couldn't get Daniel Gafford

2220
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 1: in the trade? They needed another big guy And it's

2221
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: like what and like, I'll say this, like when everyone

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01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: else on set, I mean everyone was like stunned. I

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01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: remember watching it and like I don't want to call

2224
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: people out, but stephen A was like, I can't believe

2225
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: this guy just said this on air. Like I forget

2226
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: who the other, whether it was Legler or Windhorse or whatever,

2227
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 1: but it was like, did he really just say that

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01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers didn't get enough? And I think his argument was, well,

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01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the MAVs called the Lakers to gauge interest in Luca

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01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, you had the leverage, you could

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01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: have gotten more. And everyone on set was like, I

2232
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: can't believe this dude just said this on National TV.

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Speaker 1: So another glowing week for Kendrick Perkins. In the media,

2234
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: he says that he Luka Doncic is his preseason MVP.

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01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: This after not playing any games in three months and

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01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: oh by the way, basically crushing Luka Doncic at every

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01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,160
Speaker 1: chance that he got throughout the time that he was

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers. Fox Sports radio er Tors Jason Martin,

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01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, will come back,

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Speaker 1: put a bow on the show. One segment left. We

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Speaker 1: still got a lot to discuss. Welcome back, everybody, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. One segment left. Bernie Frado will

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Speaker 1: follow us ten minutes from now two am Eastern. Cannot

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Speaker 1: wait to hear what Bernie has to say about a

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01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: busy week NFL training camps, open college football. I know

2247
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: Bernie's got a ton of good stuff on all of that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, speaking of us, if you missed any

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, and you'll see today's show

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Speaker 1: posted after we get off air. All right, want to

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01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: wrap the show. By the way, earlier in the show

2258
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: we did talk Happy Gilmore two got an interesting text.

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01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he would mind me sharing it, and

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01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: if he does, well, you know what, I'll talk to

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01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: him off air. Iowa Sam, Hey, look at that texted me.

2262
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I gave Happy Gilmore To a B plus. By the way,

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01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 1: we talked about it. Make sure to download the podcast.

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01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 1: He said, B plus question mark. It was dog expletive

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01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: and I had low expectations going in. It was boring

2266
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: and bloated, didn't need to be made. Turned it off

2267
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: with thirty five minutes left. When you turn it off

2268
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: because it's over, you know, it's bad, waste of time.

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01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't funny. F Iowa Sam. I've never heard Iowa

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01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: Sam like be mad about anything. Like nicest person in

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01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: the world. Hated Happy Gilmore too. I don't know. I

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01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: just it's it's just it's hard for me. I just

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01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what people were expect like.

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01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 2: I actually, look, I agree, I agree with one thing

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01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: that he said, and I said this too. It didn't

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01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 2: need to be made. I mean, there's there's no question

2277
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: about that. It was not a film that needed a sequel.

2278
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 2: It had a good open ending where you your imagination

2279
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 2: can take it where it needs to, like We're Happy

2280
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: goes off into the sunset with Virginia and you know

2281
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 2: everything else. It did not need to be made, Like,

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01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: I don't know that Happy Gilmore Too justified its own

2283
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 2: existence either. I gave it to be minus on the

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01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 2: merits of just being what it was. But again, if

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01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 2: you go into it with any kind of expectation, even

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01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 2: of living up to the first one, then you're gonna

2287
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: be disappointed. But if you go into it with nostalgia

2288
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 2: glasses on and with the brain shut off, just to

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01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 2: see what can be entertained and remember a couple of

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01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 2: things maybe from your childhood or for me my teenage

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01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 2: years or whatever like that, I think that you get

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01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 2: that I do. And I'm trying to think in the

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01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: last thirty five minutes, if I was Sam might have

2294
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 2: missed a couple of things that would have been worth

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01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 2: it to him. And I think probably so, even though

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 2: the ending was just kind of like when the ending came,

2297
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 2: it was just sort of over, and I was kind

2298
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 2: of hoping it was going to hit a little harder

2299
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 2: than that. But yeah, you know, it was what it was, man,

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01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 2: It came and went, but it was not like a

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01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 2: disaster or an embarrassment, which I think it easily could

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01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 2: have been.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Our sentiments have been shared on

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01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 1: Happy Gilmore too. If you miss that, you can download

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01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 1: the podcast jam or. I don't really got much else.

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01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we do have a Hall of Fame game Thursday.

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01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: Will you tune in for at least half a minute

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01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: Chargers Lions. I don't expect Justin Herbert to be throwing

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01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 1: thirty five passes in this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, I haven't watched the Hall

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01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 2: of Fame game in years. Arnie says he absolutely loves it,

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01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 2: which tells me that probably explains why I don't watch

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 2: it all that regularly.

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01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: Arnie probably hated Happy Gilmour too, That'll be my guess.

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01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: As well.

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01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 2: He hated Top Gun Maverick, and I don't know anybody

2317
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 2: else that hated Top Gun Maverick, but he he like

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01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 2: went off on Top Gun Maverick for some reason. By

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01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 2: the way, I had somebody at church last week come

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01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 2: up to me and say that they had heard me

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01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 2: with Arnie the week before, and they were just I

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01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 2: just can't with his voice. I just appreciated that, unfortunately

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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 2: from a distance.

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01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I just can't his voice. Yeah, I can't.

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 2: It's just like his voice. And I was like, how

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01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 2: do you do it? And I was just like, well, man,

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01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 2: he's a good dude.

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01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 1: I just can't take his takes. That's that's the part. Yeah.

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01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 2: I was about to say, it's not his voice, it's

2330
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 2: what he says. It's the content of the voice.

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01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 1: Yes, no, Well you can hear Arnie and play tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But Jay mart we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Do want to thank the crew, Mary Mack, producer Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Great job from both of you. A lot of sound today.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys getting all that together. Steve Disager,

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Speaker 1: of course, is done for the evening. For my partner

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Speaker 1: Jason Martin, I'm Mare Torres. Make sure to download the

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Speaker 1: podcast fun episode j Martin a lot of ground covered.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to stay tuned. Also, Bernie Fratto, He's next

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Are you