Speaker 1: Cooper rush with Daell to his left, punch formation white
Speaker 1: after motion rush in trouble, strip shock, Who's got it?
Speaker 2: It's still loose? Touch it, pick it up.
Speaker 3: Here's Barnett on the lawn.
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, ten five touchdown scoop score Derek Barnett.
Speaker 3: Derek Barnett does it all, causes the force fumble, waits
Speaker 3: for his teammate to force another fumble, then picks up
Speaker 3: the ball, goes into the end zone. You know, a
Speaker 3: weird night in Dallas. They're all weird lately. Texans win
Speaker 3: thirty four to ten. That was Mark VanderMeer of Kilt
Speaker 3: little andre Ware in the booth as well, A fittingly
Speaker 3: ugly but kind of fun touchdown on a night that
Speaker 3: was just ugly. It wasn't fun at all for the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys, but it was much needed for the Texans.
Speaker 3: And I'm joined by my friend Nick Schuok. I need
Speaker 3: you with me to make sense of this Monday night
Speaker 3: and make it entertaining for the listeners.
Speaker 2: Uh well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4: I felt massive relief when Jalen Peatree flew in out
Speaker 4: of nowhere and knocked that ball out of Tyler Guiton's hands,
Speaker 4: freeing it for Derek Barnett to recover Scoop and score
Speaker 4: for the decisive touchdown. Because in that moment, I realized
Speaker 4: the Cowboys, who are not a good football team and
Speaker 4: especially in this state, no longer have a chance of
Speaker 4: making this game interesting. It's not that I don't want
Speaker 4: to see an interesting game, It's that I don't want
Speaker 4: to see a very obviously fraudulent team have a chance
Speaker 4: through four quarters in a game like that. So good
Speaker 4: on the Texans for getting that job done. They I
Speaker 4: got some concerns about them, though, Greg, And I'm sure
Speaker 4: we'll get into that here momentarily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, let's just get into it. So that that
Speaker 3: touchdown happened with about twelve minutes to go in the game.
Speaker 3: It made the game twenty seven to ten. You see
Speaker 3: the final score thirty four to ten, you think blowout,
Speaker 3: blow up, Cooper Rush and this Cowboys offense. Ultimately, they
Speaker 3: weren't going to win this game. I don't you play
Speaker 3: it ten times. I think they would have lost all
Speaker 3: ten times.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That said, the yardage ends up being close in this game,
Speaker 3: and it was closer than it needed to be. In fact,
Speaker 3: it was a one score game before Mike McCarthy actually
Speaker 3: took points off the board after Brandon Aubrey hits a
Speaker 3: sixty four yard field goal late in the third early fourth,
Speaker 3: like when that drive was happening and it was going
Speaker 3: to be twenty to thirteen. Instead, McCarthy understandably takes the
Speaker 3: points off the board. They try to score a touchdown,
Speaker 3: they don't go anywhere, and Cooper Rush tries to turn
Speaker 3: the ball over a couple times. The Texans finally stopped them,
Speaker 3: but at that point it's still a one score game,
Speaker 3: and I'm just thinking, and I'm texting with other people
Speaker 3: who love CJ. Straw and I'm watching this game, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, is this offense just not gonna come together?
Speaker 3: Because for them to look so disjointed in CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 3: to look so inconsistent on a night against the Cowboys
Speaker 3: where it just was all laid out for you, it
Speaker 3: does make you wonder if it might not just happen
Speaker 3: for this team despite the being seven and four and
Speaker 3: having a couple winnable games coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a perplexing situation because when you look at
Speaker 4: them based on record, you're like, oh, well, this is
Speaker 4: a good team. This is a team that's going to
Speaker 4: be contending and probably make the playoffs because they're in
Speaker 4: a bad division. But and when you watch the first
Speaker 4: play of the game, you see Nico Collins take a
Speaker 4: screen down the left side of the field for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: It gets wiped out by a penalty.
Speaker 4: But if you watch them over four quarters, you kind
Speaker 4: of get to understand who the Texans are, which is
Speaker 4: a bit of an enigma because at times, like in
Speaker 4: the first half against Detroit the week prior, they looked explosive.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud's dealing, he's got time to throw, he's got that
Speaker 4: quick release, he gets the ball out on time, on target,
Speaker 4: and then you go to this week and it's like,
Speaker 4: where is that? Where is the rhythm of this offense?
Speaker 4: I'm done yearning for last year because I know it's
Speaker 4: not going to happen with this team. It starts with
Speaker 4: the offensive line. They have not protected him well all year.
Speaker 4: They didn't protect him well at times tonight. I mean,
Speaker 4: you let a free rusher through the a gap, but
Speaker 4: a third down where you just got to immediately dirt
Speaker 4: the ball and give up possession. That's concerning. Even with
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons on the field. That's he's not blowing up
Speaker 4: the game to the point where that you know, I'm
Speaker 4: sitting back and watching this line thinking he's the problem.
Speaker 2: They're the problem.
Speaker 4: And I honestly think, and this is not a knock
Speaker 4: on Bobby Slow because I think he's got a tough
Speaker 4: job right now. They their offensive line issues I think
Speaker 4: have like messed with his flow, like his ability to
Speaker 4: call plays in games. There's a third and short situation
Speaker 4: where they hurry up and try to sneak a playoff right,
Speaker 4: and it's a quick pass to the sideline, a tank Dell.
Speaker 4: It's inaccurate, it's incoplete, and then they punt on the
Speaker 4: next play. If you're gonna do that, are you going
Speaker 4: forward on fourth down? Like I know, I'm getting in
Speaker 4: the weeds here a little bit, but it speaks to
Speaker 4: the disjointed nature of the Texans, who at times look
Speaker 4: broken offensively. And that's concerning considering they're probably gonna win
Speaker 4: this division.
Speaker 3: No, I think that was a great sequence to point out, Nick,
Speaker 3: because I'm with you, that was the sign of a
Speaker 3: totally discombobulated offense. They punt at that point too. There
Speaker 3: was a couple of times in this game actually, where
Speaker 3: after failing on fourth down early in the game where CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud was intercepted, they decided to be aggressive. It was
Speaker 3: when they were up seven to nothing and they go
Speaker 3: for on a fourth and two, fourth and three, and
Speaker 3: Stroud just throws a curious pass where it looked like
Speaker 3: he had Nico Collins for the touchdown. Troy Aikman was
Speaker 3: dumbfounded at first. I thought maybe it was a miscommunication.
Speaker 3: He thinks Nico cowns kind of sit down. But it's
Speaker 3: pretty clearly, you know, an inbreaking route and Nico had
Speaker 3: certainly had the right read because it was gonna be
Speaker 3: a touchdown, and Stroud just misses him. And there were
Speaker 3: three or fourth throws like that in the night where
Speaker 3: I think of Stroud's accuracy as being what's most special
Speaker 3: about him, and he's just missing guys and he's out
Speaker 3: of rhythm. I think that's the right word for it.
Speaker 3: And they're talking up that their offensive line. This is
Speaker 3: the second straight week they've had this same group for
Speaker 3: the first time in a while, and they do think
Speaker 3: this is their best five and maybe they will get
Speaker 3: some cohesion. You mentioned that first play of the game.
Speaker 3: That was Laramie Tunzell, who that's the first play of
Speaker 3: the game. You know you've practiced that a million times,
Speaker 3: and he made it easy. He's a legal man downfield,
Speaker 3: and maybe they wouldn't have had the touchdown if he
Speaker 3: wasn't downfield. He did get the block on that play.
Speaker 3: We'll never know. Nico Collins certainly looks one hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 3: That is a great sign, and he absolutely helped them
Speaker 3: out tonight. But Laramie Tunzel's like the worst great player
Speaker 3: in the NFL, you know what I mean. Like he's
Speaker 3: an All Pro multiple times, but he screws up this
Speaker 3: offense so many times. And there's so many moments of
Speaker 3: this game where they're just disjointed. They're wide receivers and
Speaker 3: their tight ends they can't block in the running game
Speaker 3: very well. And that's the difference between them and some
Speaker 3: of these other Shanahan McVeigh tree type of teams. They
Speaker 3: draft and develop guys on the outside in terms of
Speaker 3: their wide receivers and tight ends who can block. The
Speaker 3: Texans can't. So I know we're sounding very negative, but
Speaker 3: I think it's because we see the potential of this team.
Speaker 3: I had this team in the conference championship before the season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm actually not out of hope yet, how about you,
Speaker 3: only because I've watched enough NFL seasons to know sometimes
Speaker 3: if you just hang around and hang around, and you
Speaker 3: have good players and the schedule's easy enough, sometimes it
Speaker 3: really can click at the very last second, like it's possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's the key, because at seven and four,
Speaker 4: you have a little bit of leeway. You're not in
Speaker 4: a good division, so you can kind of work out
Speaker 4: the kinks. I'm getting impatient because they've spent so much
Speaker 4: time not working out the kinks. But the idea of
Speaker 4: continuity with that offensive line and this potentially being their
Speaker 4: best five, that does encourage me. I like to compare
Speaker 4: them to another team that I still have hoping that's
Speaker 4: in a much worse spot, and that's the Cincinnati Bengals,
Speaker 4: who we talked about last night, who have the inverse
Speaker 4: of their record at this point and need to basically
Speaker 4: win out to have a shot. The Texans aren't there.
Speaker 4: They have a little bit of breathing room to figure
Speaker 4: it out. But I also need them to prove it
Speaker 4: to me to a degree, because like we talked, you
Speaker 4: just talked about how they don't block the run. Well,
Speaker 4: Joe Mixon still goes for a hundred and yards on
Speaker 4: twenty carries and scores three rushing touchdowns. Like he's been
Speaker 4: fantastic for most of the season, especially when he's been healthy,
Speaker 4: and yet that's overcoming some struggles up front. So the
Speaker 4: potential is there. It's just you have these remaining seven
Speaker 4: weeks to figure it out. Are you going to figure
Speaker 4: it out? Because the glimpses we've seen it, we just
Speaker 4: need to see it over four quarters for me to
Speaker 4: truly believe. I had them in the Super Bowl, Greg,
Speaker 4: I know it was going out on the limb a
Speaker 4: little bit. I had Lions Texans in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I would love to see that, But right now I
Speaker 4: don't quite believe in.
Speaker 3: Having it's having I mean, I'm saying I'm holding out hope.
Speaker 3: I just have seen too much of NFL football where
Speaker 3: it can just surprisingly come together at the end for them.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's winning a playoff game or two. You just
Speaker 3: never know. I'm feeling great by the way. I went
Speaker 3: back to look at my predictions today, and man, I'm
Speaker 3: feeling great about those conference championships. I have Lions over Eagles.
Speaker 3: That's pretty good. And then I have Bills over Texans.
Speaker 3: Don't feel good about the Texans, but I do like
Speaker 3: my MVP, Josh Bill. Bill's winning the Super Bowl stack
Speaker 3: right now, feeling good. So you never know, let's go.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're on a heater.
Speaker 4: This was a game that look like we talked about
Speaker 4: this last night, We thought it was going to be
Speaker 4: a blot, right. This is a game where if you're
Speaker 4: actually of that caliber as the Texans, you prove it
Speaker 4: in a matchup like this, and they didn't. I mean
Speaker 4: they did, but they didn't.
Speaker 3: So defense, did you know they're not totally healthy upfront,
Speaker 3: Will Anderson, They've they've been missing pieces there. Derek Stingley
Speaker 3: was fantastic covering Ceed Lamb tonight, so it gives him
Speaker 3: some credit. Seventeen routes run on Stingley by Lamb, two catches,
Speaker 3: nineteen yards, three pass breakups and an interception. He was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I think he's been a little up and down this
Speaker 3: year actually for a guy who he thoughts is going
Speaker 3: to be a super duper star. Mix Agan Mixon is
Speaker 3: a top five running back right now. Twenty two touches
Speaker 3: for one hundred and fifty three one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: three yards excuse me, and three touchdowns, and you're right,
Speaker 3: it's not getting blocked up very well. I looked at
Speaker 3: the end of the game at the success rate because
Speaker 3: I I just was wondering he's running so well. There
Speaker 3: were a few runs where he got three yards and
Speaker 3: it should have been negative two, or he got seven
Speaker 3: and it should have been one. And it makes sense
Speaker 3: when you look at his runs. He had a forty
Speaker 3: percent success rate, which is solid. It's not amazing, it's
Speaker 3: not as good as the numbers would indicate. But he
Speaker 3: also got stuffed, which means a negative run or at
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage four times, which that's a lot
Speaker 3: like good running games don't have that happen. And you
Speaker 3: see that week after week with him. So that's disappointing
Speaker 3: and that that's the offensive line, and that's the part
Speaker 3: where it's hard to imagine them getting it fixed. And
Speaker 3: it feels especially annoying tonight because you know they're going
Speaker 3: against a team that, yes, they're totally different with Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons back, it's obvious, but there's still not a good
Speaker 3: run defense, like they should be able to run better
Speaker 3: against this team.
Speaker 4: I will say, despite everything that we just said about
Speaker 4: the offensive line, their struggles throughout this season, I do
Speaker 4: give a big typical Captain Casario for jumping all over
Speaker 4: the idea that Joe Mixon's available for a seventh round pick.
Speaker 4: I mean, what a steal. He doesn't have a long
Speaker 4: life ahead of him. He's approaching thirty. He's gonna be
Speaker 4: twenty nine in the summer. But man, for the position
Speaker 4: they're in right now, where they have money to spend
Speaker 4: in roster spots to occupy, what a move man that's
Speaker 4: paid off and he droves for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pro bowler. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: AFC all pro. Well, there isn't such a thing, so
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm talking about. It All pro
Speaker 3: is gonna be tough for Mixing to pull off. But
Speaker 3: daneil Hunter in this game had two sacks, nine pressures,
Speaker 3: three quick hits. And yes it's all coming against the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: but it just points out who the players are. I
Speaker 3: do worry a little bit about Mixing because with the Bengals,
Speaker 3: his issue was he would always start off the season
Speaker 3: running so hard. I think no one runs harder on
Speaker 3: a per run basis, especially for a guy that's been
Speaker 3: in the league this long, But he just would wear
Speaker 3: down physically and not be healthy by the end of
Speaker 3: the year. With the He had a little injury early
Speaker 3: this season. So the key for him is just to
Speaker 3: stay healthy. And yeah, I mentioned Nico Collins. We haven't
Speaker 3: really done like the stats. He ends up four for
Speaker 3: fifty four, but he had thirty seven yards after the catch.
Speaker 3: Looked explosive. That was really important. Takedow made a couple
Speaker 3: of plays. He makes more sense a little further down
Speaker 3: the order. John Metchi looks like he's kind of developing
Speaker 3: into a nice third receiver. He also had a nice
Speaker 3: tackle on a fake punt. That's how you know the
Speaker 3: Cowboys were desperate. They called a fake punt and threw
Speaker 3: it short of the sticks on their very first possession,
Speaker 3: Bones fossil, you know, going nuts and Mike McCarthy did
Speaker 3: not look happy after the game. Yes, in the first
Speaker 3: three possessions alone, here's what happened. You had the touchdown
Speaker 3: that was almost eighty yards called back by penalty. You
Speaker 3: had the CJ. Stroud interception, You had the fake punt
Speaker 3: disaster by the Texans. Like that is how we started
Speaker 3: this game, I mean by the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Rather, we knew, we knew we were in for a
Speaker 4: weird night, and we got a weird night. It Luckily
Speaker 4: it ended as it should have with the Texans running
Speaker 4: away with it.
Speaker 3: But all right, I forgot. I forgot. Cooper rushed through
Speaker 3: an interception the very next the very next drive as well,
Speaker 3: So like that, and.
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Bulleck dropped one that could have been another interception.
Speaker 3: Should we talk a little bit about the Cowboys, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we have to. They have trailed all their home games
Speaker 3: by at least seventeen points. They have been outscored in
Speaker 3: their five home games, most of those with Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: by one hundred and eighteen points. Oh, that is the
Speaker 3: third largest point differential in NFL history for your first
Speaker 3: five home games. So if you're a Cowboys season ticket
Speaker 3: holder that's gone to each one of those games, you
Speaker 3: have seen the third worst performance by a home team
Speaker 3: in NFL history. I mean we're talking about like the
Speaker 3: winless Brown We're talking about like the Bucks with McKay,
Speaker 3: like we're talking about all the worst teams in history.
Speaker 3: This Cowboys team at home is as bad as any
Speaker 3: of them. I mean, they get a Cavante Turpin sixty
Speaker 3: four yard touchdown where he has the fastest time next
Speaker 3: Gen stats all season for a ball carrier. So you
Speaker 3: got one highlight in this game. But Cooper Rush is
Speaker 3: all over the place. He throws the ball fifty five
Speaker 3: times and he was sacked at at least five, So
Speaker 3: that's like sixty drop ecks in the game, and they
Speaker 3: got seven more games.
Speaker 4: Shook, I know, And that's what I wrote in what
Speaker 4: we learned. You can check out on NFL dot com.
Speaker 4: Where do they go from here? Like this is it's
Speaker 4: not Yeah, he looked better than he did the week
Speaker 4: before because he was completely ineffective in his first start.
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush was But you don't want to ever ask
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush to drop back, to throw fifty five or
Speaker 4: drop back sixty times in a game and think that
Speaker 4: you're gonna win. There's no support in the running game.
Speaker 4: Even the game situation didn't really call for it until
Speaker 4: essentially the fourth quarter for them to be throwing that much,
Speaker 4: yet that's where they found them. And also to add
Speaker 4: on to that stat that you listed, it gets even worse.
Speaker 4: They've trailed by twenty plus points at home in six
Speaker 4: straight games dating back to the Super wild Card weekend
Speaker 4: lost to the Packers.
Speaker 2: That's where everything kind of fell apart.
Speaker 4: They had a quiet offseason and now they're paying the
Speaker 4: price for it with seven weeks left to go.
Speaker 3: It's one of the most depressing seasons I can remember.
Speaker 3: There was a play when when they were driving, and
Speaker 3: that was after they took the three points off the board,
Speaker 3: and they're trying to really make this a game. At
Speaker 3: that point, it's a ten point game. You get a
Speaker 3: touchdown there, it's down to three late third, early fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: and on the fourth down play, Troy Aikman just with
Speaker 3: disdain in his voice, looking at the route that Ceedee
Speaker 3: Lamb and the tight end was it wasn't Ferguson right
Speaker 3: because he left with a concussion, and he just said,
Speaker 3: he just said, I don't know what's going on over here,
Speaker 3: knowing like just with the stage, I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going on over here, like someone messed up. They should
Speaker 3: not be in the same place. And then here comes Mingo.
Speaker 3: He's actually doing a good job for his quarterback, but
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush just throws it over his head and Troy Aikman,
Speaker 3: they were trying to put a good face on this
Speaker 3: game for a while, and by the end he was
Speaker 3: just like he was sick of that his Cowboys are
Speaker 3: this embarrassing.
Speaker 4: He even commented on the fact that the Cowboys fans
Speaker 4: had made a mass exodus out of eighteenth He's stadium
Speaker 4: by the fourth quarter. He goes, the amount of red
Speaker 4: in this stadium is kind of overwhelming, Like, wow, they,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to spin it like Texans fans traveled.
Speaker 4: No Cowboys fans left because they that's.
Speaker 3: True, But the Texans fans were loud as hell in
Speaker 3: the first quarter when Scout hit that touchdown. I should
Speaker 3: have mentioned after, you know, the penalty that called back
Speaker 3: the long touchdown, they still went down the field and
Speaker 3: had a great drive. It was the one drive all
Speaker 3: night where you thought, ooh, we're gonna get the Texans,
Speaker 3: like the perfect play calls mixing ends up getting a
Speaker 3: forty five yard touchdown. Hell, let's listen to one of
Speaker 3: the better moments of the night.
Speaker 1: At the forty five yard of Dallas first and ten handoff,
Speaker 1: Mixon starts white, cuts back left, has room thirty twenty
Speaker 1: five twenty fifteen ten five rock and roll touchdown Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon forty five your TV run Monday Night.
Speaker 3: Mixon love that Monday Night mixic and he ends up
Speaker 3: with three touchdowns on the night, So he lived up
Speaker 3: to that name. Yeah, the tech the Cowboys are going
Speaker 3: to be in primetime. I was going to have this
Speaker 3: conversation later as part of the news, but let's have
Speaker 3: it now, all right. The Bengals and Cowboys are slated
Speaker 3: for a Week sixteen primetime game and they cannot be flexed.
Speaker 3: Do you know why they cannot be flexed week sixteen?
Speaker 2: It's not a Monday Night or is it.
Speaker 3: It is a Week fourteen game. It's Troy and Joe again.
Speaker 3: It's in just a few weeks. They cannot flex it
Speaker 3: because it's the Simpsons watch along game. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've seen anything about this. Oh it was a
Speaker 3: toy story last year.
Speaker 2: It's the Simpsons now.
Speaker 3: It's the Simpsons now, and all the pre production work
Speaker 3: that goes into that, including the voiceovers and everything, like,
Speaker 3: they're putting too much work into that. They're not doing
Speaker 3: that on the fly. They're doing that work right now.
Speaker 3: So we got to keep Bengals Cowboys in primetime on
Speaker 3: Monday Night football.
Speaker 4: Well, I think we'll all come away with the same thing,
Speaker 4: the same feeling and quote Bart Simpsons, Bart Simpson in
Speaker 4: that moment eat my shorts.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. It's funny though, because ESPN they
Speaker 3: wouldn't flex the Cowboys out anyways. They would be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can't do it because it's the Simpsons, but they
Speaker 3: don't want to do it anyways because it's the Cowboys
Speaker 3: and they get the ratings at least for the first
Speaker 3: half of these games. I do think they'll get flexed
Speaker 3: out in Week sixteen. That's a Tampa Bay Dallas game,
Speaker 3: so I don't think that one is going to be
Speaker 3: on the schedule, But yes, that Bengals game will stay there.
Speaker 3: We'll talk a little bit more about flex in a second.
Speaker 3: Just a couple of final thoughts of this game. Did
Speaker 3: you happen to see the commercial where it's a part
Speaker 3: of the Salute to Service initiative that they let you know,
Speaker 3: servicemen play against Michael Parsons on Madden and they put
Speaker 3: it up on the JumboTron in Jerry World. And do
Speaker 3: you know where I'm going with this?
Speaker 2: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Did you see the score of the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was fifty to seven.
Speaker 3: It was fifty to seven. Michael Parsons put it on
Speaker 3: this dude. You gotta honor this man by getting putting
Speaker 3: on fifty to seven. And they tried to fake us
Speaker 3: out by showing Michael Parsons all upset about a play
Speaker 3: that happened. First of all, great job by Parsons that
Speaker 3: he was that upset that he even gave up points
Speaker 3: to this bum. If you're gonna have a serviceman play
Speaker 3: Madden on the big board in Jerry world, let's get
Speaker 3: one that can compete a little bit.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get three. Let's get someone that can
Speaker 2: compete one on a jumbo tron.
Speaker 4: Was a childhood dream of mine because I saw cecis
Speaker 4: a Bathia do it at Progressive Field back in the day.
Speaker 4: So good on the serviceman for being able to do
Speaker 4: that with Michah Parsons too. That is the type of
Speaker 4: competitor Micah Parsons is that he was upset that he
Speaker 4: gave up any points, and that's exactly why he put
Speaker 4: fifty on him.
Speaker 2: And three actually three a.
Speaker 4: This reminds me of when Cardil Jones, the former Ohio
Speaker 4: state quarterback, went to a hospital and played Madden against
Speaker 4: the kid and destroyed him even worse.
Speaker 2: And three B.
Speaker 4: I played against the best Madden player on the planet
Speaker 4: for a story a couple of years ago. His name
Speaker 4: is Henry Leverett. He's won like six Madden Bowls. Nice kid,
Speaker 4: and he dominated me by about the same margin.
Speaker 2: So I know how that feel.
Speaker 3: That's the best one in the world. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: hear you. Let's just pick a guy that that can
Speaker 3: compete a little better, that's all. Yeah, I mean Madden,
Speaker 3: it was a knight of no mercy. Parsons like body
Speaker 3: slammed Robert Woods at the end of this game. Uh,
Speaker 3: let's actually look at the tweet that the Texans out
Speaker 3: towards the Cowboys, and they said look out below with
Speaker 3: a big fat L on it, and then showed the
Speaker 3: piece of metal roof that fell from the Texans stadium.
Speaker 3: What a picture, by the way, that someone caught apparently
Speaker 3: or they superimposed this, I don't even know, yes, but
Speaker 3: before the game they opened the roof and a huge
Speaker 3: piece of metal fell. I'm almost surprised that Texans sent
Speaker 3: this out, not because they're putting that l on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: This is a real rivalry. Props to those Texans fans
Speaker 3: enjoy this win. By the way, your team want to
Speaker 3: combine like six games over two seasons, and two years
Speaker 3: later you got a couple of nimrods like us honking
Speaker 3: that they didn't look good enough while they're beating the
Speaker 3: Cowboys thirty four to ten in Dallas to get to
Speaker 3: a seven and four record. You've been through it. Enjoy
Speaker 3: these moments, like, don't worry about us, but the fact
Speaker 3: that they're making fun of this. Texans are making fun
Speaker 3: of the Cowboys for their building the fall apart. It's
Speaker 3: kind of funny because if that metal had hit some
Speaker 3: dude on the or woman on the sideline, like I
Speaker 3: don't know, like we could have like a decapitation or something.
Speaker 3: That thing thing looked scary.
Speaker 2: I mean it was floppy sheet metal. I don't think
Speaker 2: it had a lot of weight to it.
Speaker 4: But it was good on the Texans for taking two
Speaker 4: pieces of sheet metal making it into an l that's
Speaker 4: great social media work out of their.
Speaker 3: Team's real That's true, it wasn't the real thing, but
Speaker 3: that's excellent. Okay, you're saying floppy sheet metal wouldn't hurt you,
Speaker 3: but from that high up with the velocity, I guess
Speaker 3: it was kind of swinging back and forth with like
Speaker 3: a leaf. But like, I don't know, maybe I'm stupid.
Speaker 3: Like a football, if it hit you from that far
Speaker 3: up would hurt like hell.
Speaker 4: I mean, Gronk once caught a pass dropped out of
Speaker 4: a helicopter and he was perfectly fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're paying attention. But I'm just saying, if that
Speaker 3: that's true, hits you in the head. My last thought
Speaker 3: on this game is just I'll remember the facial expressions
Speaker 3: in this game Stroud's face after he threw that first interception.
Speaker 3: I already was worried that, like, oh man, this he's
Speaker 3: in his head a little bit, because after that, I
Speaker 3: don't know if he totally got out of it. He
Speaker 3: was so mad, so just frustrated already after that first interception.
Speaker 3: But the glare that Ceedee Lamb gave Cooper Rush after
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush threw behind him on a second down play
Speaker 3: was I would say withering. It was withering. The very
Speaker 3: next play, by the way, Cooper Rush throws a go
Speaker 3: ball that wasn't open at all to Ceedee Lamb almost
Speaker 3: to apologize, and Ceedee Lamb has to have an offensive
Speaker 3: pass interference and that like knocks him out of field
Speaker 3: goal range, like that is the type of night it was.
Speaker 3: But the Cowboys offensive players on the sideline, They're like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe we got to play with this dude
Speaker 3: for another few weeks or a guy that's apparently worse
Speaker 3: than this dude Trey Lance, Like what are you thinking
Speaker 3: if you're Trey Lance right now?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a humbling moment for him. I got
Speaker 4: a text that it was like, is Trey Lance really
Speaker 4: that bad that he can't replace him? I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 3: We will find out. We will find out he will.
Speaker 3: He will be playing Titans Texans next week. Texan's got
Speaker 3: to play better. I said, this is a perfect schedule
Speaker 3: for them because they can beat up on the bad teams,
Speaker 3: get to nine and four, and then the tougher part
Speaker 3: of their schedule comes. They have Miami, they have Kansas City,
Speaker 3: they have some tough games down the stretch. But you
Speaker 3: gotta play better, like even the Titans. I'm not counting
Speaker 3: that as a w necessarily.
Speaker 4: No, I would agree. The Titans can be a frisky bunch.
Speaker 4: Their defense is not as good as I think people
Speaker 4: thought they were earlier in the season. But if Will
Speaker 4: Levi is gonna played turnover free football. It could get interesting.
Speaker 4: They made an interesting over the weekend this past weekend,
Speaker 4: so we'll see. Uh, Texans do have to start to
Speaker 4: find a rhythm though maybe this is the first step.
Speaker 3: Yes, I hope so, and yeah that that post by schedule.
Speaker 3: If they can get past Titans Jaguars the next two weeks,
Speaker 3: they'd be nine and four at that point, about the
Speaker 3: three seed most likely in the AFC. And then you
Speaker 3: have a bye, then you have Dolphins at Chiefs Ravens
Speaker 3: your next three games after that. So they are gonna
Speaker 3: be a big part of the story. And I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I believe in you.
Speaker 2: C J.
Speaker 3: Stroud. I believe we're gonna make this show. Sing, Nick Schuck.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna do some news.
Speaker 3: We're gonna hand out our Captain Morgan Captains of the Week,
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna say goodbye. And reached right after
Speaker 3: this break back on NFL Daily, we got some jaunty music.
Speaker 3: We don't have some jaunty news here. Let's let's get
Speaker 3: over the obvious story was coming. We've been waiting for
Speaker 3: it for a week. Giants fans were waiting for it
Speaker 3: all season. A couple seasons, Daniel Jones will no longer
Speaker 3: be the starting quarterback of the New York Giants. It
Speaker 3: would be a big upset. I think if he ever
Speaker 3: plays for the New York Giants again, he's not only benched,
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the third string quarterback. Drew lock will
Speaker 3: be the backup. We talked about this, We put this
Speaker 3: out in the ether on the preview show a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. We said, just put in Tommy DeVito
Speaker 3: just for Thanksgiving, give it, Give that to us. That'll
Speaker 3: be better than Drew Locke. And we're not just getting
Speaker 3: him for Thanksgiving. We're getting them in week twelve and
Speaker 3: then five days after that. Yes, against these Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Nick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tommy Cutletz. He was the source of inspiration and
Speaker 4: in otherwise dark season for the Giants.
Speaker 2: Last year.
Speaker 4: He was so big. He got a I think it
Speaker 4: was a pasta sauce ad. His agent dresses in pinstripe
Speaker 4: suits and fedoras. He became a sensation on the internet.
Speaker 4: That's kind of almost all that he's worth. He did
Speaker 4: have a few nice performances, but at this point the
Speaker 4: Giants are just well, you know to keep it in
Speaker 4: the Italian theme to throw from get at the wall
Speaker 4: and seeing with sticks, and they know that Daniel Jones
Speaker 4: doesn't stick, so why not go to Cutlets and have
Speaker 4: Drew Lock as your backup. Drew Lock, by the way,
Speaker 4: did not look good in his appearances with the Giants
Speaker 4: this year, so no, he.
Speaker 3: He was so bad that I don't really buy the
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory that Florio's thrown out there, that like, hey,
Speaker 3: it's some red meat for your fans because they just
Speaker 3: will be entertained and they like Tommy Cutlets that and
Speaker 3: it's just to make them happy, keep them interested, and
Speaker 3: also increase their chances of losing games and trying to
Speaker 3: get a high seed. First of all, Daniel Jones is
Speaker 3: doing a perfectly good job losing games on his own.
Speaker 3: Drew Locke would do a perfectly good job of that too.
Speaker 3: I just think there Brian Dabeles not into Drew Lock.
Speaker 3: I think Brian Dabele is absolutely in job saving mode
Speaker 3: here yep, and that it might not be his choice
Speaker 3: to bench Daniel Jones, although it is obviously time. It
Speaker 3: was obvious to everyone, including to him. I just think
Speaker 3: he truly believes Tommy DeVito gives them a better chance
Speaker 3: to win. And in the off chance that they're all
Speaker 3: there next year, Drew Lock's not going to be on
Speaker 3: this team. There's a chance Tommy DeVito's on this team
Speaker 3: as like a backup or even a third stringer again,
Speaker 3: and they want to do it. I truly believe they
Speaker 3: just think he gives them a better chance to win games.
Speaker 3: They are two and eight. They play the Bucks this
Speaker 3: week and then at the Cowboys and the Saints. So
Speaker 3: that's a pretty forgiving schedule of opposing defenses relatively, But man,
Speaker 3: two and eight Giants, it feels so late, so early
Speaker 3: for these teams. Nick. There's so many of these two
Speaker 3: win teams like the Cowboys that, like this Giants team
Speaker 3: has seven more games to play, and we're talking Tommy
Speaker 3: DeVito already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and the schedule, like you just mentioned, you know,
Speaker 4: there's some workuple defenses, but it doesn't really lighten up
Speaker 4: all that much. But again, this is an example of
Speaker 4: what you just said, which is job saving mode. And
Speaker 4: he's going to a guy that he has experience with.
Speaker 4: You know, he's at least seen him perform capably enough
Speaker 4: to lead them to victory or at least exciting finishes
Speaker 4: in his time as a starter in a time of
Speaker 4: need for them.
Speaker 2: So that's why he's going there.
Speaker 4: But it is going to be a painful, and it
Speaker 4: feels kind of more like there are more of these
Speaker 4: teams in these situations than the years past. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: just recency bias. Now this painful November to December were
Speaker 4: a lot of these teams who are not only watching
Speaker 4: the draft board, they're like, all right, where are we
Speaker 4: landing this week?
Speaker 2: Because we know we have no hope. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm glad he brought that up because it
Speaker 3: was something I wanted to talk about during the Monday
Speaker 3: Night recap. But it just fits well here. This was
Speaker 3: the first primetime game I think of the season with
Speaker 3: a truly dead team, and I should have just gone
Speaker 3: and looked back at the last couple of weeks. I'm
Speaker 3: sure there was one team that There's been teams that
Speaker 3: we know weren't doing anything like many of these Giants games.
Speaker 3: But the difference is now we're getting close to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: You see the number of losses that are on there,
Speaker 3: We're getting to like the mathematically impossible. We're just playing
Speaker 3: out the string portion of the season, and this was
Speaker 3: the first prime tame games were really hit to me
Speaker 3: that like, oh, their season's over, over, over, but there's
Speaker 3: going to be a lot more because of all these
Speaker 3: two and three win teams that are out there, and
Speaker 3: it's bad for the product. And like, your Browns are
Speaker 3: in primetime.
Speaker 4: I just saw that Week thirteen, and that's just Week thirteen.
Speaker 3: It's four times coming up the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: They are in primetime this week against the Steelers, so
Speaker 3: at least it's like a team that's relevant that they're facing.
Speaker 3: There are a handful of other games you can flex
Speaker 3: out of Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football, and now
Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football. There's a Browns Bengals Week sixteen Thursday
Speaker 3: Night Football that I think could be did we have
Speaker 3: we ever had a Thursday night Football flex? But that
Speaker 3: one could be flexed out. And there are a number
Speaker 3: of games, but it's unavoidable on some level, Like there's
Speaker 3: a Saints Packers Monday Night Football that we might have
Speaker 3: to watch the Saints in prime time. There's a Raiders
Speaker 3: Falcons Monday Night Football, and there's a Brown's Broncos Monday
Speaker 3: Night Football in week thirteen. Now they can only flex
Speaker 3: Thursday Night football twice down the stretch, but Monday Night
Speaker 3: Football they can as much as they want, So keep
Speaker 3: an eye on Tuesday. I am curious how active they're
Speaker 3: going to be flexing these games Brown's Broncos. Is that
Speaker 3: flexworthy to get the Browns off our screens when they're
Speaker 3: scheduled to be there four times in the next few weeks.
Speaker 3: They actually would have to make a decision on that
Speaker 3: on Tuesday or maybe Wednesday, So we'll find out early
Speaker 3: if they're starting to flex some of these Monday and
Speaker 3: Thursday night games. They really haven't done that in the
Speaker 3: pass much. In the Thursday night flex, that's a new thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at some of the candidates here for
Speaker 4: that week and it does get a little ugly, like
Speaker 4: the prime to the Sunday night games between the Niners
Speaker 4: and Bills that week, which is gonna be nice because
Speaker 4: the Niners are gonna have the backs against the wall
Speaker 4: to a degree, but we also know who the Niners are.
Speaker 2: Eagles Ravens.
Speaker 4: In the late window on Sunday, maybe we get a
Speaker 4: little bit of a swap there and then another swap
Speaker 4: to get the Browns out of the late window there,
Speaker 4: and there are possibilities, There are opportunities, but it's gonna
Speaker 4: become a bit of a puzzle making exercise.
Speaker 3: Just going to watch in those games get protected. There
Speaker 3: are different games that are protected. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 3: if Eagles Ravens for instance, is protected. For instance on
Speaker 3: the Bengals, but not everything's protected in the Bengals Cowboys
Speaker 3: week there was a Cardinal Seahawks game, which now is
Speaker 3: just a better game that they can't move into that
Speaker 3: spot and those that's a game that wouldn't have been protected.
Speaker 3: So just something to watch this week. If we can
Speaker 3: get the Browns out for Week thirteen, we would thank you,
Speaker 3: because two weeks from tonight, Nick, if that doesn't happen,
Speaker 3: we're doing Browns Broncos and the brown The Broncos are relevant.
Speaker 3: At least you got one relevant team you need at
Speaker 3: least one. There's gonna be a lot of games like
Speaker 3: that this week. For instance, there is not a single
Speaker 3: game on Sunday, Nick, between two teams with a winning record.
Speaker 4: Oh god, oh oh wow, you're right. Oh, it's like
Speaker 4: a murderer's row of unbalanced match.
Speaker 3: It's just unbalanced and there. Look, the NFC West teams
Speaker 3: are interesting, and we got a rams Engles game that's interesting.
Speaker 3: We have a forty nine ers Packers game that's interesting.
Speaker 3: We have a Cardinals game that that's Seahawks game that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So there's some interesting games. I don't want to totally
Speaker 3: poop on the schedule, but yes, no, no game between
Speaker 3: two teams with the winning record coming up this week.
Speaker 3: Just one last thing, Like the Giants stay bad because
Speaker 3: they don't stay aligned and they don't self scout. We've
Speaker 3: been over. We've talked about Daniel Jones enough. We don't
Speaker 3: need to, I think, go into much depth. But the
Speaker 3: original sin here was giving him that contract in the
Speaker 3: first place and not understanding the player that you had.
Speaker 3: And I really felt like Dabel never fully bought into
Speaker 3: it either, and they didn't draft him. Gettleman drafted him.
Speaker 3: So was Shane and Dabel totally in on him or
Speaker 3: was it ownership forcing it on him and then getting
Speaker 3: the emotions of it, And now ownership is sane. We're
Speaker 3: standing behind Shane and Dabel and they're really putting it
Speaker 3: out there strong that they're doing it, and I believe
Speaker 3: it because I don't think this has been Dabel's fault.
Speaker 3: And yet I think if they lose at a certain level,
Speaker 3: he's going to be the one to go, and that
Speaker 3: they keep Shane because Jones wasn't his quarterback, but he
Speaker 3: was the one who actually did sign him to this
Speaker 3: awful contract, and that goes up to ownership. And then
Speaker 3: if they do fire Dable but not Shane, then it's
Speaker 3: like they didn't come in at the same time. And
Speaker 3: this is just how bad organizations stay bad. I'm sick
Speaker 3: of talking about Daniel Jones. It's really not his fault.
Speaker 3: He his level was obvious. He should be someone's bridge
Speaker 3: quarterback or backup, not making forty million, and then everyone
Speaker 3: wouldn't hate him. And oh, by the way, he's coming
Speaker 3: back from a major injury and he just doesn't even
Speaker 3: look as good as he looked previous to those injuries.
Speaker 3: He's got back issues.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's two elements that the Giants are paying
Speaker 4: the price for. First, they're paying the price for their
Speaker 4: success in their first year with Brian Dable because that
Speaker 4: gave everybody the false hope that Daniel Jones could be
Speaker 4: the guy. But if you look at him statistically, the
Speaker 4: numbers were not great. It's that they won with scheme
Speaker 4: and players around him playing well and Jones doing enough,
Speaker 4: but it also came in a contract time where he
Speaker 4: had to make a decision, and they made that decision.
Speaker 4: And we found a lot of teams in this situation,
Speaker 4: even the Jaguars, you know, a different situation but had
Speaker 4: to pay Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Now because different.
Speaker 4: But you find yourself between a rock and a hard
Speaker 4: place with quarterbacks specifically, and the Giants because they came
Speaker 4: off of that sneaky good year where they won a
Speaker 4: playoff game, then suddenly had to make a decision that
Speaker 4: they probably were never prepared to make. But it's also
Speaker 4: the of being a quarterback focused league in that if
Speaker 4: you don't have one, you don't have a chance. So
Speaker 4: you take a swing on a guy in the first
Speaker 4: round like Daniel Jones out of Duke and think, well,
Speaker 4: maybe he's got the upside because the physicals are there,
Speaker 4: but the rest of it was never there In hindsight's
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, sure, but.
Speaker 3: They had him for four years in the building. That's
Speaker 3: what gets me about the organization. Yeah, and the only
Speaker 3: reason they were successful that year was because Dable limited
Speaker 3: his weaknesses he basically coached around him. He just had
Speaker 3: him dinking and Duncan for most of that season and
Speaker 3: then caught a little fire with an easy schedule against
Speaker 3: bad defense, and that's what I mean. They started believing
Speaker 3: their own hype. And even then he wasn't really pushing
Speaker 3: the ball down the field. What was interesting and promising
Speaker 3: about Daniel Jones in the first couple of years of
Speaker 3: his career, when he was in a much worse situation,
Speaker 3: was he actually did make big time throws. He got
Speaker 3: that nickname Danny Dimes because even though he wasn't a
Speaker 3: good decision maker, he was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: slow processor maybe getting through his reads and stuff, he
Speaker 3: would he would throw it. He was aggressive and he
Speaker 3: made some nice plays, some nice throws, and that led
Speaker 3: to variants. I was much more interested in that version
Speaker 3: of Danny Dimes. And then it all caved in on him.
Speaker 3: Everything was bad. He clearly can't lift up a bad team.
Speaker 3: Dable comes in and coaches around him and gets him
Speaker 3: to not take any chances. He hasn't taken any chances
Speaker 3: in three or four years now. He's like injury prone.
Speaker 3: But how can you if you can't evaluate a guy
Speaker 3: that was in your building for four years. It's all
Speaker 3: because I think John Mara, their owner, thought he was
Speaker 3: a nice guy, like, oh, this is the guy that
Speaker 3: could marry your daughter.
Speaker 4: Like that's oh, that's a sin that's always going to
Speaker 4: hurt your franchise. You don't sign guys because they're nice guys.
Speaker 4: You sign hm because they're That's.
Speaker 3: Why they drafted him. They're like that. He reminds me
Speaker 3: of Eli manning'schise. He'sy a draft pick actually because you
Speaker 3: need quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: That's not morant.
Speaker 3: They somehow got Dexter Lawrence with seventeenth pick. The sin
Speaker 3: is not just moving on to three, you know, drafting
Speaker 3: another guy two three years later. Okay, that is the
Speaker 3: last Daniel Jones Giants conversation. We will ever have an
Speaker 3: NFL Daily, I promise the listeners, Well, we'll have that conversation,
Speaker 3: but we won't like revisit at all. We got to
Speaker 3: remember this Nick, you know, text me on that day.
Speaker 3: We won't revisit all. We'll talk about what's next for
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, what's next for the Giants in that moment,
Speaker 3: but we will not revisit the original sin.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move right.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of injury news today, which was really good.
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, it's a light day. Oh, that
Speaker 3: means there's not a lot of injuries. There's also not
Speaker 3: trade rumors anymore, but there were some. DJ Turner, who
Speaker 3: was starting at cornerback for the Bengals, had stepped in
Speaker 3: and actually was playing pretty well for them, is believed
Speaker 3: to have a fractured collar bone. Or that is really
Speaker 3: tough news. That's from Ian Rappaport. So Cam Taylor Britt,
Speaker 3: who's been in and out of their lineup, it will
Speaker 3: be back in their lineup. Gabe Davis is also out
Speaker 3: for the season. He has only thirty five yards. I
Speaker 3: looked in his last four games. That was a free
Speaker 3: agent signing that has really not worked out for them.
Speaker 3: And the reason I wanted to stop here for a
Speaker 3: second is you know who announced that gave Davis is
Speaker 3: out for the season. Can you guess it wasn't Rapaport?
Speaker 2: Was it Gabe Davis?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, it was an important figure in that organization. It
Speaker 3: was his coach Nick Shook.
Speaker 2: Oh well that's why would I guess that? Of course,
Speaker 2: but I don't things.
Speaker 3: Maybe wouldn't get it. On Monday, Doug Peterson had a
Speaker 3: press conference Monday where he's talking about Gabe Davis's injury, like,
Speaker 3: are they just busy? What is happening? Are they not
Speaker 3: firing him? Just to get back at the people that
Speaker 3: kind of said he was gonna get fired, and then
Speaker 3: everyone started saying they're they're poorly run. I don't know,
Speaker 3: or is it just gonna happen later in the week
Speaker 3: like the Daniel Jones benching, you know, a week later
Speaker 3: during their bye week. I just I just was really
Speaker 3: surprised Doug Peterson was out there doing that press conference
Speaker 3: because if they do fire him later in the spy,
Speaker 3: it's like, why did you just make him go? Do
Speaker 3: that just be decisive?
Speaker 4: Well, we haven't checked off the most important box on
Speaker 4: the path to a Doug Peterson firing, which is showing
Speaker 4: up on a Monday morning radio show and telling the
Speaker 4: host that he's pissed off.
Speaker 3: That is very true. The other injury news that came
Speaker 3: out on Mondayfanu Melafanu of the Lions, who they were
Speaker 3: hoping would give a nice jolt to their secondary not
Speaker 3: that they need another great safety, but they do like
Speaker 3: playing three safeties, and he made big plays for them
Speaker 3: down the stretch last year. He was one of their
Speaker 3: better defensive backs. At the end of last season, he
Speaker 3: had an injury. He's been out all season essentially, and
Speaker 3: then just got hurt again. Is going to be out
Speaker 3: for a while. According to Dan Campbell, nick Bosa will
Speaker 3: be evaluated throughout the week. I think that's a really
Speaker 3: important injury to watch because that defense just does not
Speaker 3: have enough juice without Nick Bosa. You could see the
Speaker 3: drop off after he got hurt against the Seahawks on Sunday,
Speaker 3: and then John Harbaugh said he is going to monitor
Speaker 3: Roquan Smith's hamstring injury. Which injury Nick Bosa or Roquan
Speaker 3: Smith would concern you more as a fan of those teams,
Speaker 3: because they're both pretty huge.
Speaker 4: They're both pretty huge, Yeah, they're They're both massive. Those
Speaker 4: are key players in both of those defenses. I would
Speaker 4: lean Bosa because the pass rush disappeared after he left.
Speaker 4: That was a big reason why they lost that game,
Speaker 4: was because he disappeared and the pass rush disappeared. I'm
Speaker 4: also concerned about the nature of the injury. I'm not
Speaker 4: a Twitter doctor, but he was grabbing at his hip
Speaker 4: and his side and it looked pretty debilitating. Which makes
Speaker 4: me worry that it's a multi week thing. We'll see obviously,
Speaker 4: it's you know, we're a monitor for a week right now,
Speaker 4: but we'll see whereas Roquan you can kind of cover
Speaker 4: up because so many teams play sub packages. Now, he's
Speaker 4: obviously a massive part of that defense, but they do
Speaker 4: have talent around them. I feel a little bit better
Speaker 4: about the Ravens chances than I do about the Niners
Speaker 4: without Nick Bosa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you couldn't pick wrong there because they're both
Speaker 3: just huge. Smith I believe, never missed the game. This
Speaker 3: makes me wonder if he's been struggling with a hamstring
Speaker 3: injury all year, because he hasn't looked as explosive, and
Speaker 3: yet when he went out in that game, they immediately
Speaker 3: started targeting Darnault Washington over the middle of the field
Speaker 3: and started making some plays. And I think it's a
Speaker 3: pretty big drop off, and that defense is already having
Speaker 3: its issues. I think if you take Rokewen Smith out
Speaker 3: of it, that would be a big problem. So something
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on this week. We already talked flex,
Speaker 3: but we did not talk Christmas Day. Nick Schook Beyonce Texans.
Speaker 3: Let's go We're getting Beyonce on Netflix. You know, we
Speaker 3: need the streaming to work, but we're getting Beyonce in
Speaker 3: our hometown of Houston. That's next level. Like you think
Speaker 3: at CBS and Dallas goes big on Thanksgiving. They always
Speaker 3: have a pretty good musical act for Thanksgiving halftime. You
Speaker 3: get Creed, you get someone out there. I'm so good
Speaker 3: we're going. We're going Beyonce on Christmas. That sets an
Speaker 3: incredibly high bar for the future of Christmas programming and
Speaker 3: kind of lets you know, like Netflix is not messing around.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're they're spending some of that Tyson money on Beyonce. Like,
Speaker 3: imagine how much it must cost to get Beyonce to
Speaker 3: play your halftime show.
Speaker 4: As somebody who is admittedly going to see Creed on
Speaker 4: Friday night in Cleveland, very fired up about Beyonce hosts
Speaker 4: doing the halftime show in a game involving the Houston Texans,
Speaker 4: her hometown of Houston. Now, Greg, I bring this to
Speaker 4: you real quick, just for some levity, some fun favorite
Speaker 4: Beyonce song.
Speaker 2: Of all time, Go.
Speaker 3: You Go, because now I forget like the names of Mine.
Speaker 2: Is going to be off.
Speaker 4: The eponymous surprise released album of twenty thirteen. I think
Speaker 4: it was rocket great track on that album. Okay, Love
Speaker 4: on Top also good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm clearly not like that huge a Beyonce fan.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I listened to Lemonade like NonStop all that year.
Speaker 3: Like Lemonade, Lemonade is my I would say, I would say,
Speaker 3: hold up, maybe it might be my favorite.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, awesome, there we go.
Speaker 3: No cowboy going to get buried for that, that choice, Sorr.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm an old man. You know who else is an
Speaker 3: old man? Amari Cooper, at least in football years. He
Speaker 3: is in Buffalo. Sometimes the transitions don't work, and he
Speaker 3: is loving life in Buffalo. Let's listen to some comments
Speaker 3: he had after their big win against the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: First time in a long time that I've actually actually
Speaker 5: felt joy, you know, from from winning this game, from
Speaker 5: you know, just the way we played, from having so
Speaker 5: many guys on the team who you know, are playmakers,
Speaker 5: and they come up and they show up when they're
Speaker 5: when their number is called, uh, you know, collectively as
Speaker 5: a group, it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the guys here.
Speaker 5: It's just kind of a from place to Buffalo here
Speaker 5: some of the other places I've been to, so a
Speaker 5: lot of the guy it's a tight knit group. I
Speaker 5: would say a lot of the guys go out together,
Speaker 5: they hang around each other at twenty four to seven,
Speaker 5: and it truly shows up on the field.
Speaker 3: It truly does. That was deep. That's the first time
Speaker 3: he's felt joy in a long time playing football. I'm
Speaker 3: just thinking, like Joe Flacco might be watching something and
Speaker 3: be like, I thought we had some fun last year.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, first off, I can relate to Mari, But secondly, hello,
Speaker 4: do you remember playing with Joe Flaco and making the play?
Speaker 4: I know you got blown out in the playoffs, but
Speaker 4: I mean that was a pretty magical run. I understand
Speaker 4: you were a little upset with Dallas by the time
Speaker 4: he left, and the Raiders experience was pretty rough by
Speaker 4: the time they got rid of there.
Speaker 2: But hey, man, Joe Flacco catching stray? So what's going
Speaker 2: on here?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about Joe. Maybe it was more. Look,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's been fun. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why right off the bat, before I even saw
Speaker 3: what Deshaun Watson looked like. Again, as a professional, I
Speaker 3: question that pickup, not just for like the morality of it,
Speaker 3: but that the entire rest of the organization are they
Speaker 3: having fun right now? Like going through that first off season?
Speaker 3: And I don't mean like right now, I mean even
Speaker 3: that first off season when they made the trade, Like
Speaker 3: was that experience fun up to the moment that he
Speaker 3: even got to play football? Because it seemed miserable for
Speaker 3: everyone in that entire building and it obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: didn't get any better when he did start playing. And
Speaker 3: so maybe that's informing what Cooper's talking about of just
Speaker 3: like with what was going on organizationally, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: just can't imagine that even when Flacco was playing like
Speaker 3: it maybe it just wasn't the best vibes in the
Speaker 3: in the world. But I just I just thought it
Speaker 3: was cool too that like he was just being honest
Speaker 3: and vulnerable in that moment. It was like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't really feel much joy playing football all
Speaker 3: the time, because he seems like a player player that
Speaker 3: needs to be enjoying himself and confident to have a
Speaker 3: good time, because you kind of see it when he's
Speaker 3: not having a good time.
Speaker 2: He's a stowic guy.
Speaker 4: And he also played with five different starting quarterbacks last year,
Speaker 4: so I think the turnstile that was the quarterback position
Speaker 4: probably contributed to that as well, which obviously Deshaun Watson
Speaker 4: had a hand in. There's also a strange amount of
Speaker 4: like unnecessary pressure in Cleveland for a small market regarding
Speaker 4: only the Browns, and he probably felt that, especially as
Speaker 4: their season unraveled quickly this year.
Speaker 3: Hmmm. I mean, I feel like people are just gonna
Speaker 3: gonna get on me for the whole Beyonce thing. You know, Hey,
Speaker 3: you know what you already shot shot And yet that
Speaker 3: was like that was the song I was. I think
Speaker 3: it's just like not a song that you remember like
Speaker 3: the name of for some reason. All Night is a
Speaker 3: banger too, but a different kind of banger, you know,
Speaker 3: but but definitely a banger off of that jumping off
Speaker 3: the joy thing. I'm putting you on the spot here
Speaker 3: the first time that he's felt joy in a while.
Speaker 3: Our first episode of NFL Daily, it was with Jordan
Speaker 3: rod Reeg and Patrick Claybon. That was our topic, what
Speaker 3: were looking forward to in the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 3: What's gonna give us joy? Like, what's bringing us joy?
Speaker 3: Just to think about? So I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 3: the spot. If you want me to go first, I can.
Speaker 3: If you want some time to think about it. What's
Speaker 3: what's been bringing you some joy in the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four season. I'll go first because I was ready for this.
Speaker 3: Ye well, first of all, like it hasn't been a while,
Speaker 3: hopefully that's coming across to the listeners. I'm really enjoying
Speaker 3: this season. You know, I enjoy every season anytime that
Speaker 3: I'm not connected to the game and it happens, life, job,
Speaker 3: whatever it is. I've found over the years as I
Speaker 3: got older that the key for me is to go back.
Speaker 3: And it's so freaking corny to just like watching the
Speaker 3: actual like whenever I get further away from actually just
Speaker 3: watching the tape that to be a dork, but like
Speaker 3: watching during the week and drilling down on what I
Speaker 3: find interesting, like emotionally or intellectually, like then that's where
Speaker 3: I find the love. That's that's where it comes from. Hell,
Speaker 3: last week, I just had a lot going on, not
Speaker 3: like it was stressing me out, but I just was
Speaker 3: taking off my usual preparation and I came into that
Speaker 3: preview show last week being like, oh man, I didn't
Speaker 3: get into the tape as early in the week as
Speaker 3: I normally do, and I felt it I missed it.
Speaker 3: I didn't have as much joy talking about the games
Speaker 3: because I didn't have that basis so I always have it,
Speaker 3: so it's not hard for me to go back and
Speaker 3: find like, when's the most recent joy. Hell that Sunday
Speaker 3: was pretty joyous to have that Gino Smith run right
Speaker 3: after that Drake May performance, followed by the way that
Speaker 3: Josh Allen run happened, and Chris Rose is on the
Speaker 3: desk right next to me waiting to start his post
Speaker 3: game show and we're watching it and just screaming and
Speaker 3: knowing that's a moment we're gonna remember at the end
Speaker 3: of the season live like that's what I absolutely live for.
Speaker 3: But I also been feeling joy on these Monday nights
Speaker 3: with you, Nick and obviously throughout NFL daily, but just
Speaker 3: speaking about this show in particular, like some are better
Speaker 3: than others. I think that's true of games, it's true
Speaker 3: of performances, but a lot of times I've come out
Speaker 3: of that these Monday nights and they've been really good
Speaker 3: games for the most part on Monday nights, and I've
Speaker 3: thought like, oh, we kind of nailed that, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I hit all the things I wanted to see or
Speaker 3: oh that was surprising, and I leave feeling here like
Speaker 3: this is good. This is what I wanted NFL Daily
Speaker 3: to be. I think we're getting somewhere. I think it's
Speaker 3: getting better. And it's almost like hard for me to
Speaker 3: go to sleep afterwards, because it's what I've been working
Speaker 3: for for twenty years to do stuff like this. I
Speaker 3: was doing it when we were around the NFL, and
Speaker 3: I still really appreciate it and love it now. So
Speaker 3: that's some of my long winded reasons for joy of
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season. Now, is this show going
Speaker 3: to reach that level of some of those high games.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can only get to where the game gets to.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this game let us get to
Speaker 3: our very best, but I think we've done well with
Speaker 3: what we were given.
Speaker 4: Nick, Yeah, I would agree. I would say I've found
Speaker 4: joy and two things short term and long term. Short
Speaker 4: term the turnaround of the Washington Commanders and watching all
Speaker 4: these Commanders fans who have been not in hiding but
Speaker 4: just not proud to talk about their team. Suddenly they
Speaker 4: find a reason to believe again. And turn on the
Speaker 4: TV every Sunday and watch their young quarterback and their
Speaker 4: exciting team that may be overachieving based in terms of
Speaker 4: roster strength, but is a really fun watch in most weeks. Grant,
Speaker 4: they've had a couple of tough games recently, but they're
Speaker 4: still a very fun watch because of Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 4: So I really enjoy watching those people find happiness, much
Speaker 4: like I watched Browns fans around me last year enjoy
Speaker 4: their run of the playoffs. Because when a football team
Speaker 4: is succeeding, it's really fun to be in that community
Speaker 4: and watch everybody get on board and rally around it.
Speaker 4: Because there's there's so many things that divide this country
Speaker 4: right now, but at the same time, we can all
Speaker 4: rally around a sports team in a special moment. I
Speaker 4: experienced that with the Guardians this year as well in
Speaker 4: the Cavs fifteen to now. But I would say the
Speaker 4: joy that I found in football because you're right, the
Speaker 4: grind every week is long. Getting QB index done. It
Speaker 4: takes a lot of work from Sunday to Tuesday night,
Speaker 4: but I always get it done, and sometimes you lose
Speaker 4: it when you're grinding through games and everything else it
Speaker 4: takes until you step back, like you said, to really
Speaker 4: enjoy football. But there are moments. Sometimes it's watching Geno
Speaker 4: Smith scramble for a touchdown in the final fifteen seconds
Speaker 4: of a game. Sometimes it's somebody getting blasted on a
Speaker 4: condensed game the next day. But the joy I find
Speaker 4: the most is as soon as we are done here,
Speaker 4: I get up and I feel invigorated.
Speaker 2: I feel fulfilled doing this podcast with you.
Speaker 4: I've always been very grateful that you know, you brought
Speaker 4: me into this group, you brought me into NFL media
Speaker 4: a decade ago, and I love doing this show and
Speaker 4: I can't wait to continue doing it for however long
Speaker 4: we go, because it's been last and I thank you
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: Well, that is very nice, Nick, It's been really cool.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't planning to have like a mid season
Speaker 3: check up on how NFL Daily's going, but it is
Speaker 3: the coolest to have this group of people, and it's
Speaker 3: obviously different than around the NFL, but to have you
Speaker 3: and Steve and Colleen and Jordan and Patrick, that's just
Speaker 3: it's just part of the mix and get to know
Speaker 3: them in a different way, like more regularly and just
Speaker 3: sometimes life changes and it's been it's been a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's very nice of you Nick Shook ten
Speaker 3: years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Bro, the only thing I missed now is not being
Speaker 4: out there with you guys. That I missed the camaraderie
Speaker 4: the newsroom and being in studio.
Speaker 3: But that is part of it. I do like, I
Speaker 3: do like going into the office. We've gone on too long.
Speaker 3: I feel like I had one more thing I had
Speaker 3: to say, but I'll remember it after the show. And
Speaker 3: it really wasn't that important anyways. You know what, it's
Speaker 3: not as important as it's not as important as the
Speaker 3: Captain Morgan Players of the Week. It's time for Captain
Speaker 3: Morgan's Captain's Corner, presented by Captain Morgan. I'll let you
Speaker 3: start this week. We're going to mix it up, all right.
Speaker 4: As much as I am a known hater, self professed hater,
Speaker 4: especially on yesterday's show, Taysom Hill is my Captain's Corner
Speaker 4: pick of the week because I mean, my god, he
Speaker 4: carried that offense to a victory. He's breaking tackles left
Speaker 4: and right, He's putting Browns defenders in the Superdome turf.
Speaker 4: He goes for a career high one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: eight rushing yards. He tied his career high with three
Speaker 4: rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 2: It was a day for what is he?
Speaker 4: Thirty four years old? The thirty four year old had
Speaker 4: his moment in the sun after grinding in a number
Speaker 4: of different positions for years. He is the guy who
Speaker 4: ends up on the roster is number fifty three and
Speaker 4: works his way up the ladder to the point where
Speaker 4: no matter the regime change, he's still on the team
Speaker 4: and he comes through in a big spot. So you
Speaker 4: are my captain of the week, Taysom Hill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pride of Indiana football who's having a moment
Speaker 3: right now and gets mentioned every week by Joe Buck
Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football undefeated. Shout out to Rhet Lewis too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big Indiana, big Hoosier.
Speaker 3: Who's your crowd? Former wide receiver, didn't know that about
Speaker 3: rep for a little while. I'm going somewhere different for
Speaker 3: captain's corner. But man like, I feel like we've we've
Speaker 3: gone pretty heavy on Saints or ex Saints in this case,
Speaker 3: I am going to show you some a clip of
Speaker 3: Jamis Winston hugging all of his teammates after the game.
Speaker 3: What got me about this clip was there was a
Speaker 3: huge line of Saints coaches and players. First it's Taysom
Speaker 3: Hill and to Mario Davis, and it goes on and on,
Speaker 3: and you could see there's some different New Orleans staff
Speaker 3: and they're all just waiting and there's all just so
Speaker 3: much love for the four years that they spend with
Speaker 3: Jamis Winston. And it's so damn genuine. And it's every
Speaker 3: different section of the team too. It's offensive lineman's defensive linemen,
Speaker 3: it's special teams, it's it's linebackers. Like to Mario Davis,
Speaker 3: the leader of the team, you can tell it's personnel
Speaker 3: that you know, I don't know who they are, that's
Speaker 3: just behind the scenes for the Saints. And it goes
Speaker 3: on and on like that video could have been like
Speaker 3: five minutes long, and it just shows you, you know,
Speaker 3: he's a backup, he's a number one overall pick that
Speaker 3: maybe it didn't all work out like he wanted it
Speaker 3: to in Tampa, but life's about more than that. And
Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. How many people love hit them some
Speaker 3: Jameis Winston. How many lives I have a feeling that
Speaker 3: he's impacted and people that love to be around him.
Speaker 5: So that is a W.
Speaker 3: That is eating the W.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 4: It's important to impact people's lives positively and clearly Jamis
Speaker 4: has done that even with all the pre game By
Speaker 4: the way, Greg his pregame speeches on network television have
Speaker 4: been hilarious, like fantastic stuff the last few weeks. I
Speaker 4: very much suggest you tune in for those. But great
Speaker 4: to see him love by so many people.
Speaker 3: That was the Captain's Corner presented by Captain Morgan. It's
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Speaker 3: trying to improve as a host. For instance, I should
Speaker 3: have told you about the whole question about asking you
Speaker 3: about the joy. Yeah, I should have told you that
Speaker 3: ahead of time. We want to get better, we need
Speaker 3: to be better. No, it is we are better. We
Speaker 3: are getting better. I mean Jamis Winston. He's bringing joy
Speaker 3: all around the New Orleans countryside. If I had really
Speaker 3: thought about that, I was going to eat a W.
Speaker 3: I should have practiced it because it's just like, well,
Speaker 3: that was disturbing this is awkward. My fingers are like
Speaker 3: dripping now, I don't know if that's the right way
Speaker 3: to end this show.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you know when your fingers are dripping, Football's back.
Speaker 2: I don't know.