1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm Lazar, Lazar Lazar. Hello, everybody 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: nailed it, joined us always buying our Barak David match. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: No really, Chulk here is Evan Lazar and Alex barr 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is definitely like the worst person to get 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: stuck flaying golf with. You made it eight episodes before 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I got into a golf rance. Evan, good job. Hello, everybody, 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Welcome into a new edition of The Patriots Catch twenty two. 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: I've opened Lazar every show we've done together the same 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: way for three years, and it took a golf reference 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: to throw you off of that. Wow, it definitely did 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: throw me off because you know my feelings on golf. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: You also told me that I had to stay focused 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: on the show because Argentina Poland is on right behind you. 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: So I'm trying not to watch that right now because 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: I do want to focus on the show. So that's 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Uh, we are going to creeve 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: you the bills here today. That's gonna be a big 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: part of the show. But I do want to go 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: back and talk a little bit about the Vikings game, 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily get into the nitty gritty because I think 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: it has been almost a week now and we're kind 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: of onto Buffalo around here, Alex, But well, you, I 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: do want to talk a little bit about that game 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: as well, and that's where I want to start. And 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: every show I try to come up with my my 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: one big thing that I need to get off my 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: chest what really grinds my gears about about what's going 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: to the narrative. So the talk around the thank you, 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: thank you, Yes, I knew he had it. And when 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: you come off a game like that in Minnesota last 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night, and I'm not saying everybody, and I'm I'm 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna not saying anybody in particular, but when you come 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: off a game like that on Thursday night, I feel 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: like the conversation immediately for the majority goes to the 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: defense getting shredded by Justin Jefferson and the Vikings, the 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: special teams giving up a touchdown and running into the 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: punter and all of these other factors right that go 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: into losing the game, the referees, and I'm not saying 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that the offense always escapes blame, but I think in 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: this particular instance. I heard a lot of that, right, 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: Like the defense couldn't stop a real offense when they 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: played a real offense. The special teams was terrible, the 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: f's were terrible, and all of that might be true. 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: It probably is true. A lot of it is true. 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: But what I think the biggest problem that I have 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: with why it gets me agitated is because we look 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: at that and we don't We're trying to take away 49 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: blame from the offense, right, And I've had some people 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: that sit here and tell me, oh, well, twenty six 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: points should be enough to win a game. Twenty six 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: points probably wins you a lot of games this league, right, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: It probably wins you a lot of those games against 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: the Lions, or against the Jets with Zach Wilson at quarterback, 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: or the Colt with Sam Ellinger. Like, that's gonna win 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: you a lot of football games at twenty six points. 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: But when the Patriots play teams like Minnesota on the 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: road on Thanksgiving night of another playoff team they play 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo here tomorrow night, the offense has to be able 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: to win you a game. Eventually, Yeah, eventually, the offense 61 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: has to be able to drive the bus. Because the 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Patriots to me right now, Alex and I think the 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: biggest reason why the Patriots cannot get over the hump 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: of being a six and five mediocre average operation is 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: because they can only win games one way. They only 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: have one winning formula, and that is that the defense dominates. 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: They play a clean game across the board, and the 68 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: offense is allowed to just kind of coast to a 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: victory and there's never any real pressure on the offense 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: in a fourth quarter or in a big spot. That's 71 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: how they win football games. When they get into these 72 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: games where the defense doesn't have its best day, the 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: special teams make some mistakes, there's some adversity for the offense. 74 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: They do not have the ability yet to rise above 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: it as an offense and lead this team to victory. 76 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: The Patriots had I'm taking out the last drive because 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: that the last drive to me is last garbage time. 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: It's essentially garbage time. Yeah, the three drives that they 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: had in the fourth quarter they went punt, punt, turnover 80 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: on downs. In the fourth quarter, they gained fifty eight 81 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: yards on thirteen plays, and forty of those yards were 82 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: on a screen pass to Rumandre Stevenson, So that means 83 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: that the other twelve plays went for eighteen yards in 84 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: that game. And I think we remember a lot in 85 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: the Brady era about the Patriots mystique that, oh, they 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: never made mistakes like that, right, Like, oh, they never 87 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: would run into the punter, or they would always step 88 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: out abound Hunter Henry at the two minute warning and 89 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: preserve the clock, right, like they always made these I 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: think on the whole, they made those decisions way more 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: than maybe they are doing now, right, Like maybe it 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: was almost a ninety percent lock that they would do 93 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: those things. But they didn't always play perfect. They didn't 94 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: always have perfect games, but they won so many games 95 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: because quite frankly, Brady would put the team on his back, 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: right and Brady would lead them there. And I'm not 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: putting it all on mac Jones, but I think a 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: lot of it is on mac Jones. And if they 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: are going to compete with Buffalo tomorrow night, and this 100 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: is sort of why I'm bringing this up and starting here, 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: if they're going to compete with Buffalo tomorrow night, they 102 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: are going to have to get that performance from mac Jones. 103 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: They are not going to hold the offense to ten points. 104 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: They are not going to dominate the Bills offense tomorrow night. 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: The Bills offense is going to get theirs right. Right. 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they can hope to make it less efficient, right, 107 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and maybe there's some turnovers mixed in there or something 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: like that. But the Bills offense, I would say, realistically, 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: is going to get to twenty seven points. Twenty seven 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: is where they got last week against Detroy despite having 111 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: a few snaffoos, right, despite having a few turnovers and 112 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: brain farts in the red zone and things like that, 113 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: they still got to twenty seven. Can you score twenty eight? 114 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Can you score thirty? Right? Can you outscore them? Because 115 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: right now the Patriots cannot have not shown I'm not 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna say they can't do it, because maybe they can 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: in the future, but as of right now, they have 118 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: shown us that they can't do it. Well, they just 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: score twenty six, so they're gonna need twenty eight. They're 120 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna need twenty eight, all right, Fine, can they hit 121 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: another field goal? A couple things about what you just said. 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, and I've said that when 123 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: you know, we throw these terms around, good team, great team, whatever. 124 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: A bad team can't win, a good team can win. 125 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Games their way, Right, a great team can win games 126 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: multiple ways, or a great team can win games multiple ways. 127 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: An elite team can win games anyway. And I think 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: where the Patriots are right now, they can win games 129 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: their way. They can win defensive games right, low scoring games. 130 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: They're trying to get from that good to that great column. 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of essentially what you're saying exactly. I don't 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: disagree with your overall points on the offense. I don't 133 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: think it applies to last week a ton just because 134 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: I yes, they weren't great in the fourth quarter, but man, 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: they gave that. When your defense is built the way 136 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: it is, that should be enough. The offense doesn't exist 137 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: in a bubble, right. I just think complimentary football, right 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: for the for the for the offense to have the 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: performance it had, the defense should be able to clean up. 140 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I would come back at you, you know, where was 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: the turnover late in the game, Where was the pressure 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins, any of that? When the Patriots have 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: won these kinds of games, the kind of game even 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: going back to some of the later Brady years we 145 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: called darn harmon the closer for a reason, right, because 146 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: the defense would come up at the end of the 147 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: game and force that one big turnover that would end it, 148 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and that wasn't there. They let the Vikings score ten 149 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and have a big drive 150 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: late in the game that ran out the clock. I'm 151 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: not saying the offense was perfect. They weren't. They weren't, 152 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: But I think your point could be better made about, honestly, 153 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: even a win. Go back to the Jets game, right, 154 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: That's a game where I'm more like, yeah, they won 155 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: and it was great, but man, you needed something more 156 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: from the offense in that one. I just feel like 157 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: you can only win a game with your defense right now, right, 158 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: And this is the big problem to me is that 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: you know you're saying it should have been enough, but 160 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: on that day, it wasn't enough. Right, So on that 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: particular day what you are expected why but because complimentary football, 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Why wasn't it enough? Because you are affecting the defense 163 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: to be not I won't use the word perfect, but 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: you were expecting the defense to be good every single week, 165 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: and in this league, you're not going to be good 166 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: every single the way this defense is played this year, 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and I know people point out the good quarterbacks versus 168 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: the bad quarterbacks whatever, they should not allow thirty three 169 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: points to Kirk Cousins. That to me is the bigger 170 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: issue here. I got backup left, Hime. I disagree because 171 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: I just think that some weeks you're just not going 172 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: to be on your a game, like you know, for 173 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Here's the whole point, right, And when we 174 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: say that about the offense, No, the offense is bad. 175 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: The offense has been bad all year, right, and the 176 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: offense at some point the offense needs to needs to 177 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: hold its end of the bargain. That's my point, right, 178 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is is that when 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: you start to I'm not going to do the whole 180 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: schedule thing and stuff like that, but when you start 181 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: to break down, how does this Patriots team make the playoffs? Yeah? 182 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I think they have to get to ten wins, right, 183 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: which means that they have to go four and two 184 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: in the last six games of the season to get 185 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: to ten wins. We are not going to win four 186 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: games out of this six with this schedule on all 187 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: on the back of your defense. Not in this league, 188 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty two, not with Joe Burrow and 189 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase coming in here in a couple of weeks 190 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: and two and the Dolphins coming in here and Buffalo 191 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: coming in here and then traveling to Buffalo, Like, you're 192 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: just not going to win the games on the back 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: of the defense without the offense winning are stealing or 194 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: whatever term you want to use a game every once 195 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: in a while, And this this is I think a 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: two year trend now at the Patriots two like this 197 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: goes back to Max's rookie season as well, and it 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: goes back to twenty twenty two, but I kind of 199 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: throw twenty twenty out. You look at the last two years. 200 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: This is the only way that they win football games. 201 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: And if you're that one dimensional, then you're an eight 202 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: win team. Then you're good. You're not, You're a good 203 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: not great team, right And in order for them to 204 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: get where they need to get, and and for in 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: order honestly, in order for me to be totally sold 206 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: on mac Joe is the future, like as the franchise 207 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: quarterback that we all want him to be. I gotta see. 208 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Things didn't go well defensively, the special teams made a 209 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: few mistakes, but it didn't matter because mac Jones led 210 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: them to a win. He doesn't have a win like that. 211 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: He just doesn't. He should have against He should have 212 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: two against Dallas and Tampa last year. Dallas, to me too, 213 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: is the same thing. Dallas. He throws a pick six 214 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: and then he comes back the next play and throws 215 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown. If he doesn't throw a pick six, Alex, 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: then they're not in the hole to begin with, the 217 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: only reason why they're all out, then it all that's out. 218 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: I still don't I still don't think that that was 219 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: that was And also let's not forget they had the 220 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: possession in overtime where they had the ball now that 221 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: Nelson Agler draw or was hell sure he dropped it, 222 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: but and they could have gone for it on fourth down. 223 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: To be honest too, I think it was like fourth 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: and three or fourth right, But they didn't lead. They didn't. 225 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: He had the opportunity to lead the drive in overtime 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: and they didn't. And again I'm not just putting it 227 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: all on Mac like the whole offense, right, But but 228 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: this is my point. You're saying you want to see 229 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: this for Mac, and I'm telling you have seen it. 230 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: This is the whole. This is just one example of 231 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: the whole conversation that exists around Mac Jones. Right now, 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: you have seen it in the sense that Mac has 233 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: done what you're asking him to do. The ultimate result 234 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: isn't what you wanted to be, but that's due to 235 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: factors outside of Mac jones control. I guess, man, we 236 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: just can't keep making these excuses. You're right. Look, eventually 237 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: you need to start winning games. You're right. But I've 238 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: said this before on this show. I'll say it again. 239 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not in the top three lists of 240 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: reasons Mac Jones has struggled this year. I don't disagree 241 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: with that, and I think that same concept applies to 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: what we're talking about here again the Minnesota game. It's 243 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: funny we're having this argument now. I actually think that 244 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: there is some validity to the argument you're making. I 245 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: just think the Minnesota game is the best example of it. 246 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: I think the Minnesota game is the perfect example of 247 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: it because the defense did not play particularly well. That yes, 248 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: they probably should have played better against primetime Kirk Cousins, 249 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: no doubt about it, but they did it. They in 250 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: the kicking game. Let me let me, let me turn 251 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: around on you. Then, why is it you need to 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: see Mac play well when the defense doesn't play well, 253 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I would argue because I need Mac to pick up 254 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: the rest of the team. I would, I would. I 255 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: would be more interested in seeing because this is a 256 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: defensive minded team. And even outside of maybe two or 257 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: three years, defensive minded team in the league that is 258 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: all about the last two or three years, even or 259 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, except for maybe two or three 260 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: even when Brady was here, it is a defensive As 261 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: long as Bill Belichick is the head coach, this is 262 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: going to be a defensive minded football team that I 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: want to be able to see them extend leads. I 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: want to see when the defense is on, like look 265 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: at the Jets game. I want to see them be 266 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: able to pull away in that kind of game, not 267 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: have a ten you know, a ten point come down 268 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: to the wire. I've seen map before. Yes, I've seen 269 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: them pull away from mediocre like I mean against I 270 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: mean against a good team. Okay, I mean, but I 271 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: just don't think that it's realistic. Again again down it 272 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: is gonna come in here and drop an egg. But 273 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: but not. It's not a Buffalo point. It's just a 274 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: general point. You want to see Mac Jones play well 275 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: against a good team. I want to see Mac Jones 276 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: win a high scoring game. He has not won a 277 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: game where the opposition scored twenty five points. Okay, So 278 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: here when here's my point, Mike, and it's kind we're 279 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of arguing two sides of the same argument. But 280 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: my bigger point is that's the story of our lives. Right. 281 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: When is the last time the Patriots as a whole, 282 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: like put Mac Jones aside, Yes, when's the last time 283 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: they played a complete game offense, defense, special teams? We 284 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: walked away from it all three units. Hey, that went 285 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: well against not the Jaguars. I was gonna say Cleveland, 286 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: So I guess that doesn't count. Okay, But they've been 287 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: few and far between the last three years because I 288 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: think that other teams get paid too, and you're just 289 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: not gonna walk all over teams like Buffalo Like you're 290 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: just not gonna walk all over teams on the road, 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Minnesota on all over him. That's why you want them 292 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: to dominate in all three phases. You're not gonna do that. 293 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: You can, you can play well in all three phases 294 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: and not can the quarterback win a game for you? Can? 295 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: He can? He put the team on his back. He 296 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: had adversity on Thursday night. There's no doubt about it. 297 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: The special teams gave up a kick return touchdown, Pierre 298 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Strong ran into the punter. The defense gave up twenty 299 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: six points. Okay, he had to win a game. Thirty six, 300 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: thirty three came up short. It's not like twenty sixteen anymore. 301 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: You can win games. You're getting mad at me for 302 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: being like behind the eight ball and how the NFL works, 303 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: right because quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. Yeah, let me ask you this, 304 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: the hot team, the real hot team in the NFL 305 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: right now, they're talking about him right behind us here 306 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: on ESPN, the San Francisco forty nine ers. How many 307 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: of those games is Jimmy Garofolo really won? Okay, but 308 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nineties have Deebo Samuel and Christian 309 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: McCay and George You're right, good, right, But but all 310 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, right there, you can win games by 311 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: just all three units showing up, and it's been few 312 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: like but okay, okay, okay, I agree with you. I 313 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: agree with your point that they can win games with 314 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: all three units showing up. You're not gonna win every 315 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: game like that. You're not gonna get all three units 316 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: a well oiled machine. Special teams play as well defense here. No, 317 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: it's not, it is no, it's not. Alex. Did the 318 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: defense play well in the second half against Kansas City 319 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game in twenty eighteen, they'se gave 320 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: up thirty points, But you know, you know who played 321 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: freaking well, Brady. He put the team on his bed. 322 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: But this is the You need all of it, You 323 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: need all of it. It's it's okay, and win the defense. 324 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: On Thursday night against the Vikings, when the defense picks 325 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: off Kirk Cousins in the first half and Jonathan Jones 326 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: return to the seventeen yard like they wore, they need 327 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: to score there. You're right, they need to score there. 328 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: You're right, You're you're right. But it's just it's it's 329 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: more so it's less Mack that I'm frustrated with, and 330 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: more so what's going on in the margins, right, It's 331 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: the penalty point is is that the that winning on 332 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: the margins every time you go out there is hard. 333 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Every time you go out on the field. If you 334 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: can't have any dumb well, every time you go out 335 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: there as hard. I don't want him to play well 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: every time. I wanted to play well once and he 337 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: did just play well for three quarters. For three quarters, 338 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: he played well. Okay, I want him to go. I 339 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: don't need him to play I don't need him to 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: win every single game for them. Okay, I don't need 341 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: him to be Patrick Mahomes right where he goes out 342 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: there and you win every single game because Patrick Mahomes 343 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: is your quarterback, right, I don't need that. But every 344 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: once in a while, when the defense is having an 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: off game, right, it's like if you're I'm gonna crossports, 346 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: if you roll your ace out there in baseball and 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: he gets knocked around a little bit, you're surprised, right, 348 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: You're like, oh wow, Like you know, justin Verlander gave 349 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: up five runs this this game. That's surprising. That's not 350 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: justin Verlander's game, Right, We're not used to that. Let's 351 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: go out there and score six, right, Like, is that 352 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: that's where we're getting at here? Where that is the 353 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: that has eluded this team, that has eluded this team, 354 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: That when the defense over the last two years, and 355 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: the defense hasn't carried the team to the winners circle, 356 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and all the stuff on the details and on the 357 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: margins that everybody talks about. To me is what you 358 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. That's that good teams need all 359 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that to go right. They need every call they need, 360 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: they need not to commit dumb penalties when they're in 361 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: the two minute drill, the quarterback needs to throw the 362 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: ball away instead of taking a sack to preserve time 363 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: because they need every second of the game, they need 364 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: every scoring opportunity to go correctly. And this team is 365 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: in that position. And that's why last year they were 366 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: ten and seven beating up on bad teams. This year 367 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: there's six and five beating up on bad teams. Is 368 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: because when the good teams come in here, you need 369 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: to actually be able to be better than just the oh, well, 370 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot team, or if 371 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: you do shoot yourself in the foot, you have to 372 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: be able to overcome in But that's how many teams 373 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: in the league. That's two or three teams in the 374 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: league are that good. I don't think that's true. I 375 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: don't think that's true. I think that there are teams. 376 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of playoff teams are like that. 377 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of good playoff teams are like that, 378 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: and right now, that's what you want to be the 379 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl this year especially, I think it's all about 380 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: what's going on in the margins. There's a handful of teams, 381 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: and yes, one of them is coming in this in tomorrow. 382 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: But this Buffalo team is eight and three and they 383 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: don't play well in the margins at all. Exactly interceptions, 384 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and there's still eight and three. But Mac Jones isn't 385 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen one because he throws less interceptions. But there's 386 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: other reasons as well. Mac Jones isn't Josh Allen. So 387 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: if you're a big complaint is Mac Jones isn't Josh Allen, 388 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you that. No, my 389 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: big complaint is not that Mac Jones isn't Josh Allen 390 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: because Josh Allen. I know you're gonna you have your 391 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: chance to talk about Josh Allen, but Josh Allen is 392 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: on a different level. Okay, I'm not asking Mac Jones 393 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: to win every single game. I'm asking him every once 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: in a while when the Belichick stuff doesn't go well, right, 395 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: when the defense doesn't play well, when they don't play 396 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: sound in or you know, they're undisciplined and they take 397 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: these dumb penalties and all this stuff doesn't go well. 398 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: All right, he's got to be able to rise up 399 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and help the team propel the team forward. And on 400 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: Thursday night he played lights out. And I'm gonna give 401 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: him some compliments here now, because I think he deserves something. 402 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: He played lights out for three quarters, reading the field, 403 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: seeing the open guys, coverage, manipulation with his eyes, with 404 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: pump fakes in the pocket third down, even though there 405 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: were only three for ten. I thought he made some 406 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: good plays on thward down as well in the second half, 407 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: like some really good quarterbacking from Mac Jones in this game. 408 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: The throw that he made, the two downfield throws, the 409 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: one to Dowson Agalore between the two safeties. Everyone can 410 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: look at that play and then go watch the player 411 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen hit digs on to set up the 412 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: field goal against Detroit. It's the same coverage, it's the 413 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: same route, and Mac rifles it in there just the 414 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: same as Josh Allen does. Right, Like there's a great 415 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: throw though, a deep ball to DeVante Parker. Great ball, 416 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: great ball, And I thought some of His situational stuff 417 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: was pretty good too, in terms of, you know, more 418 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: management game, you know, to the sticks, types of throws, 419 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily the downfield bombs, some really really 420 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: high level quarterbacking for three quarters. Probably in my mind, 421 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: especially given the spot that you're actually playing a good 422 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: team on the road, I think that that was probably 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: his best three quarters in the NFL. I did so. 424 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: I guess here's where we differ and and we're not 425 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna it's just Is Winders. We're gonna disagree on this. 426 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: We are. You're talking about it like the Patriots made 427 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: some mistakes that every team makes, and they just couldn't. 428 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, every team he could. Every team gives up 429 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: one thirty nine and nine catches to Justin Jefferson. Every 430 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: team does, every team does. But no, but but but 431 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: but what just did it? They just did it. I'm 432 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: talking about the punt return or the kickoff return, those penalties, 433 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: like it was just that was a lot that was 434 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: not your basic overcome. A couple of mistakes that Patriots 435 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: played horrible situational football in that game. Four defensive penalties, 436 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: the punt block penalty. Such brains two drives about what 437 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: I for twenty years, everybody made such a big deal 438 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: at a situational football and no penalties and the clean 439 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Patriots they never beat themselves. Do you know what? They 440 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: had damn good players. And I'm not just talking about 441 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Okay, they had damn good players. Well, you know, 442 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: I first good about a lot of those players. They 443 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: didn't make those kind of mistakes. They were also just 444 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: that's part of all make them good. I just think 445 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: that if you were only gonna win football games like that, 446 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: you're not going to get in the playoffs this year. 447 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get enough wins because for all the 448 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: other stuff to work out perfectly for you. I just 449 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: don't think there's enough games on your schedule to win 450 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: in that and just in that formula, right, Like, if 451 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: that's the formula, it's the defense, it's special teams, it's 452 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: the offense not beating themselves do that. But it's can 453 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: I think I think your ceiling is what because they 454 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: did that last year? Right, So the ceiling is ten 455 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: wins and out in the wild card. Right. But but 456 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: here here's the thing. They they invest so much in 457 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, and look, they had some massive moments 458 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: last year that killed them in terms of bad situational 459 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: football and making late miss Like, don't think they were 460 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: ten and seven because this was all perfect last year. 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: Now suddenly this year it's bad. It wasn't the ceiling 462 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: last year could have been higher if they got some 463 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: of this stuff right. When you invest as much as 464 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: you do in special teams, both when you invest as 465 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: much as you do time wise in the little things, 466 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: which I think is great, you need to get them 467 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: right though, you need to get them right. Yeah. Look, 468 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: I think that they were both right in a way. 469 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 1: But I just again I will keep reiterating how it's 470 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: frustrating to watch a team that can only win one way. 471 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: And I just think if you're that, if you're that 472 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: type of team, it's kind of like your Titans, right, 473 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: Like they also are in the same boat, right where 474 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: they have one way they can where they have one way, 475 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: and how did it go in the playoffs? They have 476 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: one way that they can win a football game, right, 477 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: and in order to for this Patriots team to go 478 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: four and two in the last six, which I think 479 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: is what they need to do to make the playoffs, 480 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: and then I would also piggyback that on in order 481 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to go on a run, a real run. In the playoffs, 482 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: you have to be able to win games multiple ways. 483 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: And I go back to that eighteen run because I 484 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: think everybody points to thirteen to three in the Super Bowl, 485 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: and Perlo is always on this too. Thirteen to three 486 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl is how they won. They won 487 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: because they because they won in Kansas City, right Like, 488 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: that's how they won. And so you're gonna have different 489 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: types of games in the playoffs. Some games are gonna 490 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: be thirteen to three, Some games are gonna be shootouts, 491 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: some games are gonna be somewhere in between, right, Like, 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: that's gonna be how you have four games to glory now, 493 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: because only one team gets to buy. And if you're 494 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna get there, you're gonna have to be able to 495 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: play different You're gonna have to have different fighting styles, 496 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: right like, you have to be able to win fights 497 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: in different Again, there's not a lot of teams that 498 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: can do that. What what you're what you're And yes 499 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: it's again I'll say bad teams can't win. Good teams 500 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: have a way to win. Great teams of multiple ways 501 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: to win. Elite teams can win anyway. How many teams 502 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: in the league right now, are truly great? How many 503 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: teams can win a game in multiple like it's not 504 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: a long list, that's not and it's not the longest 505 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: list ever, I think, And it's a shorter list this 506 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: year than it is other years. I agree with you. 507 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: I think that, and I know this that people don't 508 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: want to hear this, and I feel a little cringey 509 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: saying it, but I'm gonna say it. This is the 510 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: second year of a rebuild. That's very few teams, if any, 511 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: or elite it. Like I've said this for the window. 512 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't want them to be elite at everything. I 513 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: just want them until they win a game, and look, 514 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: until they win a game in the thirties. Right. As 515 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: dumb as this sounds, I don't think you need to 516 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: be elite in the way I'm describing it. To win 517 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, right, you need to be great. I 518 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: don't think you need to be elite, like in the 519 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: sense that if you get the right matchup, you teams 520 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: can beat teams that are better for than them, right 521 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: if if the matchup works the right way. We see 522 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: that all the time in the NFL. I just think 523 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: where they're at right, like next next year is supposed 524 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: to be the great year. Year three with the with 525 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the draft pick quarterback is where it's all really supposed 526 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: to turn on. I guess at this point I'm not 527 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: it's concerning, but I'm not over concerned that they can't 528 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: win these kinds of games because I think there's still 529 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: one more year of what should be significant improvement on 530 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: the way. And again it goes back to, you know, 531 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: why can Josh Allen win these games this way when 532 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: he makes all these mistakes because he has like a 533 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: guy like Stefan. He's a guy likes Stefon Diggs who 534 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: can erase those mistakes in one play? Right, Why can 535 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: Bills the Bills Lions? To watch Bills Lions in the 536 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: morning and then watch the Patriots sputter out offensively and 537 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: the a and the late game on Thanksgiving was a 538 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: perfect It was perfect rightly, because the Bills in that 539 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: Lions game got outplayed for like, yeah, forty what was 540 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: the difference at the end? They they Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, right, 541 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: and look why the Bengals actually play like kind of 542 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: sloppy football, but they can overcome it because when Joe 543 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Burrow can hit Jamar Chase on a one play touchdown. 544 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: It increases that margin fair so much because it extends 545 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: the game. And then we'll talk about this when we 546 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: get in the game plan and like that guy's not here. 547 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: That guy's not here, and Matt can be better on 548 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: his own, but they don't. Who's the guy that's eracing 549 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: mistakes here? Yeah? You know, And I think and that's 550 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: why I don't want to make this just the Mac thing, 551 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: because that's pretty much all I'm saying. It's not like 552 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: because people hear what you're saying and they take it 553 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: to Mac Jones isn't the guy, right, they take it 554 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to it's time to go back in the quarterback Harisel 555 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: and back to the draft and let's start talking with it. 556 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: Like that's all I'm pushing back on because I and 557 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm not pretty sure I know you know that, but 558 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm pushing back on, like the pick. This is not 559 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the team, this is not the core for the next 560 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: five ten years that they're just gonna go try to 561 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: win with it. It shouldn't be that they're just gonna 562 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: go try to win with this group. They're projective anywhere 563 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: from fifty two hundred million dollars in salary cap next year, 564 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: four top one hundred picks. Like, we'll see you ultimately 565 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: what happens. But that's w is Like there's still this 566 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: isn't there's still room to grow for this offense. Sure, 567 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: this team needs to get off the margins. Right. They've 568 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: been on the margins for for three years. And that's 569 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: why they've been a five hundred football team since Brady left, 570 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: because young teams are on the margins. That's what happens. 571 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of these calls, and 572 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: then I want to get into the bills. Scott, thanks 573 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: for hanging on with us. Scott, how you doing? I 574 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: think we might have lost him. He was on for 575 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: like an hour. If he wants to call back, Scott, 576 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: you can call back and we'll we'll get you on 577 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the air. Patty and Aguham, how are you doing? Patty? 578 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: Going on? Guys? Hey, So just to you know, go 579 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: a little bit off topic. Is it too early to 580 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: talk to draft? It's not too early to talk draft, Patty, 581 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: But I will admit that if we go that direction, 582 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: then I have another rant and I'm gonna end up 583 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: going on. But go ahead, Patty. I just wanted to 584 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: get because I know, I know Alex wosn't do a 585 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys. Um, I just wanted to throw three 586 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: names at you. And they're all still positioned guys, So 587 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: it might be like a little bit fun if he's 588 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: looked up on these guys. But m bart definitely has guys. 589 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Dave Flowers out of Boston College, second guy wide receiver 590 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee. And the guy that I 591 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: find pretty intriguing even though his production doesn't wouldn't tell 592 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: you so is Darnell Washington's not at Georgia's a big 593 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: tight end. I wanted to see what you guys thought 594 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: about guys and yeah, just you know when you guys 595 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: think about him. Yeah, we got it, Patty, Thank you 596 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: so much. Appreciate the call. Uh all right, so Za Flowers, 597 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: I've seen a little bit a local guy. I want 598 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: to see how he tests because his general athletic profile 599 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: scares me a little bit, right Like, I don't see 600 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: an overly explosive, fast, you know athlete out there. I 601 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: see a guy that wins a lot of contest more 602 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: stuff fast, Yeah, like that guy from Purdue, David Bell, 603 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: was it he's faster. David Bell, He's not as big. 604 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: He more to me is kind of like and you know, 605 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I get obsessed with these players every year. You know, 606 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Kidarius Tony and then Juan Dale Robinson. You think he's 607 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: like that. He's not quite as fast, but he's maybe 608 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: more shifty. Okay, that's another guy where like those guys 609 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: are explosive. He's gonna need a test really well. Yeah, 610 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: like you said to me, it's um, he reminds me 611 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot of And we do this every year. We 612 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: tier players, right, Like there's the same mold of players, 613 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: the first round guy, second round guy. Um, Jordan Addison 614 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: at USC Yeah, I like him too, right, So Za 615 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Flowers is like, if you don't get Jordan Addison, you 616 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: want that kind of players. A Flowers is probably like 617 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: fringe top one. Yeah, Jordan Addison, So I like him. 618 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: The Patriots traditionally aren't very interested in those kinds of guys. Yeah, 619 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: maybe that changes this year. Um, but we'll see. Jalen 620 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: Hiatt's a really interesting one because he torched Alabama. I 621 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: mean he torched Alabama. So you know he's getting the 622 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: thumbs up. When Bill goes and ask Sabe and what 623 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: about this guy was the issue? Like just a monster day. Um. 624 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: He reminds me of Taikwon a little bit fast. Guy's big, 625 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: not huge, but he's big. He can move. He's a 626 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: little bit uh you know, he's a junior, but he's 627 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna be twenty two by the time next season starts. 628 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: He's it's another guy. We're like, if he runs a 629 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: four four, he's probably like a fringe top one hundred pick. 630 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: If he can get like a high four two, low 631 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: four three, he maybe starts to push his stock little bit. 632 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots obviously like guys like him. They just took Taekwon. 633 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: And this is, by the way, all very poliminary. I 634 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: haven't done a super deep dive. It's just the initial read. 635 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: But I don't like it feel a little redundant. Now 636 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: they drafted. They've made such picks before. They drafted Anthony 637 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: Jennings and Ronnie Perkins in back to back years, similar players, 638 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: So that doesn't rule it out. But Jaalin Hyatt Tennessee 639 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: certainly in name for Patriots fans to know. Now Darnell 640 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Washington the tight end out of Georgia, so he loses 641 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot of attention. They have two tight ends who 642 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: are going to be first round picks. There's Brock Bowers, 643 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: but he's not draft eligible yet. He's a true sophomore. 644 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: Darnell Washington's number zero if you're watching the games, six eight, 645 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: two sixty five, and he can move up. Until this point, 646 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: they really only used him as a blocker. They've started 647 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: using him as a receiver this year and he's been 648 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: pretty good. Now, there's a lot of good receivers on Georgia. 649 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: He's not getting a ton of coverage attention, obviously, but 650 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys, right He's twenty five catches 651 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: for four hunt or three yards. He's one of the 652 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: those guys that you watch him move and you don't 653 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: understand how a guy that big moves that well. Really, 654 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: when I watch him, I'm not sure how much of 655 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Like he's never going to be like an explosive down 656 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: the field threat. But and we've talked a lot about 657 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the red zone with this team. Yeah, and this is 658 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: a guy at six eight that you can run scheme 659 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: touch plays with. Kind of He's almost like, I just 660 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: don't know back right, I just don't know where the 661 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: room on the roster is for another tight end. Because 662 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Johnny Smith is going to be here when right, That's 663 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: what I was building too, is yeah, if john HU 664 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: Smith and to me, he's more of a John U. 665 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Smith comp than a Hunter Henry Camp. Yeah. Also, he's 666 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: projected to be a borderline first round pick right now. Yeah, 667 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 1: so I don't know that they're investing that. But if 668 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Johnny Smith is in the last year of his deal, 669 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: would be all over this. I don't He's a great 670 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: football player. And at the end of the day, I 671 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: say this all time. At the end of the day, 672 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: the drafts about adding talented football players to your roster. 673 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's really hard to see where he fits. 674 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Given right, if you take him in the fifth round 675 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: and you sit him for a year and then those 676 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: tight end contracts are up perfect and there's guys like 677 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: that who's that are called Patty, Yes, Patty, keep an 678 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: eye out for m Luke Schoonmaker for Michigan because or 679 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Cameron Latt too Malabama. Those are similar players you can 680 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: get later sit and then they come in in year 681 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: two where you're gonna have to draft Darnel Washington. He 682 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: needs to play year one. I like high it a 683 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: lot from Tennessee. I think he's a good player, but 684 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: I worry about usage with him. And if look who's 685 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, right, because the coach is a defensive guy, right, 686 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: he's a saving Josh Eifel. Yeah, let me pull it 687 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: up real quick. Their offensive coordinator, he's got it going on. 688 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: That guy knows what he's doing, and he gets hired 689 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: a lot of free releases, stacks, bunches, you know, things 690 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: like that, and they get a lot of free release 691 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: so that he can use that speed right down the field. 692 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: So the other thing that's going to be interesting offense 693 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: About all the Tennessee guys we talk about, and I 694 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: know you want to move on, I'm just I'll leave 695 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: you with this now. Yes, and I'll find out who 696 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator is. A guy named Alec Golisch. He's 697 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: in his second year. Spent a lot of time at Illinois. 698 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: So there you go. M I the one thing about 699 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee you talk about this a lot with Ohio State. 700 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: The offense they run is so different. It's very unique. 701 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: And yes, I think that's sort of what I was 702 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: getting at. I think Tennessee's offense actually will be in 703 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. I think that that's a that's a development. 704 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: That's one of those like RPOs right the way they 705 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: really and when I say spread the field, I mean 706 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: there's guys on each sideline. They make you defend every 707 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: blade of grass east to west that's coming to the NFL. Like, 708 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: that's something NFL teams are going to use. It has 709 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: some arraid elements too, it does, but right now, that's 710 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 1: a that's a pretty stark adjustment. All right, Sean and Vancouver. Sean, 711 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging on. How you doing good? You know, 712 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: I don't have any expectations, or I haven't had any 713 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: expectations for the Patriots to beat the Bills make the 714 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: playoffs this year. I'm looking for growth and there's like 715 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: three specific things that I'd like to add. I like 716 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: the way the offense has improved the last week especially. 717 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: I liked them to add a couple of things like 718 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: Klan Thornton, maybe put them in motion, let him try 719 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: and build with his team, and also score touchdown in 720 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: the red zone. On offenses that I'm looking for, we 721 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: saw Marcus Jones replaced Miles Bryant returning kicks and punts. 722 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him replace them. And on defense 723 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: as well, see him do some of the Nickel coverage, 724 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: especially with Mackenzie coming up. Yeah, it's a good point, Sean, 725 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: and when we we were going to get to here. 726 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call on Buffalo is how they match 727 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: up and how they're going to match up defensively. The 728 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: point first point quickly, I think the red zone conversation 729 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: is interesting and how they get things going there. I 730 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: wish I could sit here and say, like, this is 731 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: the problem with their red zone offense, right, but it's 732 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: really a collection of several different things that are happening 733 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: in Each individual sequence or individual play kind of has 734 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: its own issues, right, Like it's kind of hard to 735 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: just pick them out. I think protection has hurt them 736 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: in third down situations where they haven't really held up 737 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: on deeper third downs in the red zone so that 738 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Mac really has a chance to throw the football down 739 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: on the field and those spots, and play calling I 740 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: think is also rears its head. And maybe even play 741 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: design in general just having unique designs down in the 742 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: red area has kind of alluded them as well. But 743 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: to get to Buffalo, because I really do want to, 744 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: I can I make one point on the red zone 745 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: real quick, because this is something I've noticed really going 746 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty and the Cam Newton year, as 747 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: much as we talk about them struggling in the red zone, 748 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: and they do, they're actually pretty good. Like inside the three. Yeah, 749 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: if they can get the ball inside the three, they 750 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: whether I guess Damian Harris is hurt, but Ramond Ray 751 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: or whoever. Going back to twenty twenty with Cam, they 752 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: just pound the ball in the end zone like, pretty 753 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: good at that unless they run it out of shotgun, 754 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: unless they were The issue has been getting the ball 755 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: inside the three. And it's almost to the point where 756 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: I watched them and again this goes back to last year. 757 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: How many times have they thrown the ball just into 758 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: the end zone? How many times is the ball in 759 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: the air crossed the goal line? It almost feels like 760 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: they're they're in their own heads about it. Where all right, 761 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: we know we can score from inside the three, so 762 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: let's just focus on getting inside the three and then 763 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: go from there. Right, And it's almost compounding the issue, right, 764 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: it's making it worse, they see him, right, because the 765 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: issue isn't from the five and in it's from like 766 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: the five to like the twenty five. Right, So I 767 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: just I want to see them be more aggressive. I 768 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: think that's the issue. They're trying to do it so 769 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: incrementally in the red zone. Right, we're gonna get from 770 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: the twenty of the fifteen, fifteen to the ten, the 771 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: ten to the five, the five to three and then 772 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: HB dive and we score. Right, just throw the ball 773 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: in the end zone from the fifteen yard long like 774 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: that's that to me is the biggest thing where attack 775 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: from the high red zone and don't even worry if 776 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: you get down to the one, great awesome, don't eat 777 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: like that. Shouldn't the plan should just be get the 778 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: ball in the end zone. Yeah, no, I'm with you 779 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think a lot of the good offense, 780 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: I hate to keep phrasing it like that, but a 781 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of the elite offenses that you see around in 782 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: the league to attack the end zone from either the 783 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: fringe red zone or the high red zone more than 784 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: anything else. Right there, if you look at a lot 785 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: of these offense, we'll look at the Bills. The Bills 786 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: suck in the red zone, so they've decided to just 787 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: skip it. And that's from the twenty five, right, and 788 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Bill Belichick said at the podium yesterday 789 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: when you or maybe it was on on Monday or 790 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: Sunday or what I have, whatever day it was. Uh, 791 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: if we can skip the red zone like we did 792 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: a few times against Minnesota, then that's good too, right, 793 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: And and I think that's where we're at with them 794 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: as well, is shot plays from the high red zone 795 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: or the fringe read zone, whatever frame the terms you 796 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: want to use, like those I think need to become 797 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: their best friends. All right, Eldred, what's going on? Hey? 798 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: Hen everybody? How y'all doing? Hey good? How are you? Yes, sir? 799 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Earlier you earlier you see about flitting his zones against Buffalo? Yes, 800 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: full safety. So I wonder who do you take off 801 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: the field? You use the full safety five corners or 802 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: three or whatever, three corners, two linebackers, will you take 803 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: off the field? Yeah? Good question is thanks for asking, 804 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: because I will. We keep on trying to talk about Buffalo, 805 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: We keep getting away from Buffalo. So this is I 806 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: my thing with this game with the Bills, my big 807 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: thing with the Bills, and it starts on defense, and 808 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it also pertains a lot to the offense too. Clearly, 809 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: what you did in the two games last year to 810 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: the end of last year, which were the win game. 811 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: You gotta throw out like the win game doesn't count. 812 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: The two games that counted were the game the day 813 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: after Christmas and maybe a little bit the playoff game. 814 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: But really the game that I focus on is the 815 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: middle one. That the middle one is the one because 816 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: remember in the playoffs, I mean DeVante Bosby's out there. 817 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, it was, Yeah, it was in that 818 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: game too. You just you were happy to be there. 819 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: They were focused to try to go on a run. 820 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: And it looked like two teams that were in totally 821 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: different mindsets going into that game. I felt it. I 822 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: think I texted you about it from the press box 823 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: and I could fill the energy on the Buffalo sideline 824 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: and their warm up was just so different than the 825 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: Patriots energy and focus. So let's go. I want to 826 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: go off the Week sixteen game last year because to me, 827 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: that's the game, right, that's the game. This game is 828 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna most mimic, I guess is the way to put it. Sure, 829 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: And that game what got you beat is that you 830 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: just played your brand of defense right, like you played 831 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: your early down zone stuff, and then he played man 832 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: on third down, and they killed you in man coverage. 833 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie versus Miles Bryant j C versus Stefon Diggs. 834 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't a fair fight, right, They just 835 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: killed you in those situations. I think this is a 836 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: big Belichick game to me because for twenty years, we 837 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: talked earlier about all of them. The other stuff that 838 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: bugs me right about the Belichick mystique, But the one 839 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: thing that's been absolutely true is that for twenty years 840 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: and big games, Bill Belichick has always had something up 841 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: his sleeve. He has always had a creative plan. And 842 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: I go back to the eighteen run because I think 843 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: it's a good one. In the eighteen AFC Championship game 844 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: against Kansas City, they were eighty percent man coverage. They 845 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: played man coverage with the whole game. And then they 846 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl and they played nothing but 847 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: zone coverage against the Ramps. Right. Like those types of 848 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: week to week game plan type of teams, This Patriots 849 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: defense I think has the talent and the depth to 850 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: be that. Like. I think they can go week to 851 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: week and change it up if they have to. They've 852 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: also had an entire off season to get ready for 853 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 1: this game, like everything you did in the off season, 854 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: both from like you know, coaching and kind of going 855 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: over yourself and scouting yourself and figuring out how to 856 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: get better and all that kind of stuff from a 857 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: coaching perspective, and although it might not be these splash moves, 858 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: I think from a personnel perspective, the mac Wilson's of 859 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: the world, the Jabriel Peppers, like, those guys are the 860 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: two young corners, the rookie corners. Those guys are work 861 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: here because that's where you were deficient against Buffalo. You 862 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 1: didn't have enough speed at linebacker. Your corners were getting 863 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: beaten man coverage. So you went out and you got 864 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: different guys, right, So in this game, I want to 865 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: see one of those Belichick game plans that film nerds 866 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: like me on Friday breakdown and are like, look at 867 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: what Bill did against Josh Allen, like this is incredible, right, 868 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: and to put my Bill hat on for a second 869 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: and think really outside the box and away from their 870 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: typical structure. A four safety dime package is sort of 871 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: what I've landed on, right, So I think you gotta 872 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: get the safeties on the field because those guys can cover, 873 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: and they can obviously tackle, and that's the biggest thing 874 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: is tackling. And if you're gonna play for safety, to 875 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: Aldred's point, okay, who are you taking off the field? 876 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: So I would play for safety dime, which means you 877 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: only have two true corners on the field. So your 878 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: corners are probably gonna be Jonathan Jones and Jayleen Mills. 879 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: So that means that the guy coming off the field, surprise, surprise, 880 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: is Miles Bryant, right, And I would roll those four 881 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: safeties and I would play all different types of zone 882 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: against him, right like I would really in the dial 883 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 1: of zone coverages, play some three, play some four, play 884 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: some two, maybe play some six like it just completely 885 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: try to blur those zone lines completely. And but most 886 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: of the time I would try to keep two safeties 887 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: up up right, because you don't want to get the 888 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: big place. If I'm the Patriots, if Buffalo runs the football, 889 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: like every single Devin Singletary handoff to me is a victory, 890 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: right like if you like go ahead, It's kind of 891 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: like how they used to play Peyton Manning, right like, 892 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: if you want to hand it off to no Sean 893 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: Moreno forty times in this game, go for it, go 894 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: right ahead. So that's how I feel about them. Defensively, 895 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: you look at the Buffalo stats and as you would 896 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: probably expect if you play post safety, like if you 897 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: play one in three against them, one is obviously man 898 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: forget it, like you know, like it's just it's a 899 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: death sentence. And that's exactly what they did last year. Now, 900 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: the other big part of my master plan here. You 901 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: got a pass rush, right and I'm not talking about 902 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: the mush rush like trash compactor, like push the pocket 903 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: and contain no no, no, no no. You have to 904 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 1: get after Josh Allen like I want to see Matthew 905 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: Judeon and Dietrich Wise and Josh j pin their ears 906 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: back and pressure Josh Allen because I think the two 907 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: biggest things that kill you with Josh Allen. I think 908 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that kills you, honestly is one thing, 909 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: and that is when he's able to hold the football 910 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: and just turn it into a playground game, right, Like 911 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: he's so good on extended plays, he's so good with 912 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: his legs, he's so good outside the pocket. So what 913 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: I want to try to make him do is make 914 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 1: decisions whether he's throwing or he's taking off, just decide 915 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: to do something like don't let him just sit there 916 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: and dictate the terms of the game. You have to 917 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: force him into things. And that's why I think zone 918 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: would help, because if he takes off, then fine, then 919 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: you just come up, you rally to the football, and 920 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: you make the tackle. So that's the number one. Number two. 921 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: If they wanted to play some man, which I'm sure 922 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: they will, mac Wilson or if it's Jabriel, maybe it's Gabriel, 923 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: but I think it will end up probably being mac 924 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: Wilson just because of the size of Josh Allen. I 925 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: think asking Jabriel Peppers to tackle Josh Allen one on 926 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: one is a tall task for a two hundred and 927 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty pounds safety. So maybe it's mack Wilson, but you 928 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: obviously I think you got to have a dedicated spy. 929 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: I do, yeah, so I I have some similar thoughts. 930 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: Actually disagree with some of that. Um. The biggest thing 931 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: is you can't, like you said, the Bills are gonna 932 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: get their's right, You're not gonna win every place. That's 933 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: why I want them to be aggressive because maybe you 934 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: will make some plays that way, right, like they might 935 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: make some plays too, but at least you will make 936 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: some play. So so, here's the thing about the Bills. 937 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: The Bills are a globetrot or offense. And there it 938 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: comes to his spiel about the Bills and how they're overrated. 939 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: No yet, just do it. People mistake this for calling 940 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: them overrated. It's wild. It's they're not perfect. The Bills 941 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: aren't perfect. There I said it. Okay, the Bills are 942 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: not a perfect football team. What are you talking about? 943 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: Are the Bills very good? Yes? They're not new the Bill. 944 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: There's been teams like this book. Okay, what's your point. 945 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: Here's my point. The Bills are gonna get theirs right. 946 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: If you try to pick apart every single little play 947 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: with the Bills want to do. They want to score quickly. 948 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: They want to be on and off the field. One 949 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: play eighty yards to find digs. It's over. That's all 950 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: they want to do, and they're very good at it, 951 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: and when you let them do it, they will kill you. 952 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: You have to take that away. You have to make 953 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: them methodically march their way down the field. There's two 954 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: reasons for that. One. They turn the ball over a lot. 955 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: It's not just Josh Allen. Those receivers fumble, they turn 956 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: the ball over a lot. At some point they're gonna 957 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: give one to you, and the Patriots have to capitalize. 958 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: But that's what they tried to do last year. There's 959 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: not all right, all right, all right. The other thing 960 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 1: is they're not good in the red zone. They struggle 961 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: because again they want that deep shot, and the deep 962 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: SHOT's not there in the red zone. It's almost a 963 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: twofold thing. Something you said that I agree with his 964 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 1: huge is if Josh Allen, if they're running the ball, 965 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: you win. I think that even applies to Josh Allen 966 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: scrambling inside the twenty two, inside the tent. I think 967 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: people way overreact to him scram I would I agree 968 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: with you. I would just don't give him that deep shot. 969 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: If he's gonna run for fifteen yards from the forty 970 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: five to the thirty. Yeah happened, Oh well, so be it. 971 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: That's a wine. But but the thing you have to 972 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: do is once you get in the red zone, that 973 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: mentality flips. Josh Allen's turn over to interception ratio or 974 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio on the red zone is almost one 975 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: to one. It's eight to seven. Once you get in 976 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: the red zone, then it becomes about making him throw 977 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: the football because he can't or he struggles throwing the 978 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,959 Speaker 1: football in those tight windows. As good as Josh Allen 979 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: is and then he can finish. He is as a 980 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: runner as good as he is. He's averaging six point 981 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: nine yards of carry, which leads the league. Yeah, he's 982 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Show he's averaging seven point nine yards per 983 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: pass attempt. So it's still better to have him run, right, 984 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: But except in the red zone accepted. So that's why 985 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: it almost has to you almost just hold on for 986 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: dear life until you get down into the red zone. 987 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: And if he turned last year. But here's the thing. 988 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 1: When these teams step up and try to fight aggressive 989 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: with aggressive, they get in your whole plan. Basically, your 990 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: whole plan is predicated on the idea they can cover 991 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. Obviously the last couple of years they couldn't 992 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: do that. Now this is where it's really interesting. J 993 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: Stevon Diggs had J. C. Jackson's number. He just did 994 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: you see that? With matchups sometimes like Davante Parker had 995 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: prime Stephon Gilmour's number. Remember Malcolm Butler used to lock 996 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: up prime Antonio Brown, like every time they played. It 997 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: was just one of those matchups that jac Jackson didn't 998 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: have it. Jonathan Jones may or may not. We don't know, 999 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: but I think he does too, because we'll see I 1000 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree with you. Quickness. Yeah, Josh 1001 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: Allen's pass away and the run element is totally a 1002 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: factor here. But let's just take him as a passer 1003 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,479 Speaker 1: for a second. Josh Allen's passer rating when he throws 1004 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: his Stefon Diggs is one twenty one and a half. Yeah, 1005 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: that's astronomical. That's massive. Josh Allen's passer rating throwing to 1006 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: everybody else is eighty nine. That's pedestrian. That's it's like, 1007 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: that's not It's not as stark as Kirk Cousins throwing 1008 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: to Justin Jefferson versus everybody else. But in the big thing, 1009 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: of his eleven interceptions, ten have been targeting players other 1010 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: than Stefon Diggs. So good stats. You had. Your plan 1011 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: works as long as they can take Stefon Diggs away. 1012 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: But that's why I got a guy underneath him and 1013 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: a guy over there. But here's the thing. They had 1014 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: that on Justin Jefferson last week, and it didn't work 1015 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: every time. They played a lot of man though, I 1016 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: just think your plan works. Is a big picture thing. 1017 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a certain they're gonna get. There's 1018 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be certain drives where you just have to 1019 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: don't let the big play beat you. Hold on for 1020 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: dear life, get down into the red zone and then 1021 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: make Josh Allen throw the ball in the red zone. 1022 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: I would be with you one hundred percent. And I 1023 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: the big play thing is obvious, right, like God, you 1024 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: can't give up the big plays. But I think that 1025 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: and Bill said this yesterday about sitting there and watching 1026 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: him throw it, and that to me is what that 1027 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: is a little bit too much, right if you're just 1028 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: trying to get him to make mistakes. So let me 1029 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: just say, I think you're you're gonna be sad. I'm 1030 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: because I don't think he's gonna make as many as 1031 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: you want him. I'm still I wouldn't be so sure 1032 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: that he leads against us, not against you. I think 1033 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: against other teams. He's he's had some brain starts. I'm 1034 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: talking he's got your number, right, and that's fair. I'm 1035 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: talking about the coverage. Yeah, your thing about the pass 1036 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: rush and go get him is true. You gotta hit him, 1037 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: you got to make him uncomfortable in the pocket. Yeah, 1038 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if, if, if you're gonna rush that 1039 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: aggressively and you're gonna try to jump routes and things 1040 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: like that, all he's gonna do is throw it over 1041 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: the top just to find dicks. No, I don't want 1042 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: to jump routes. I want to play really sound too 1043 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: deep zone. So so here's here's my question for you. 1044 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: Because you say I'm mimicking the plan from last year, 1045 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying the plan from last year a little bit. 1046 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: Did the plan from last year not work because it 1047 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: was a bad plan or did it not work because 1048 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: they didn't execute it? Well? It didn't work because he 1049 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: had all day, all freaking day to throw. So answer 1050 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: my question. Did it not work because it was I 1051 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: think then, or did it not work because they didn't 1052 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: execute it correctly? I don't know if the back end 1053 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 1: was necessarily a bad plan, the rush was a bad plan. 1054 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: So this is so, this is basically what I'm saying. 1055 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the coverage. Yeah, you're like, and I 1056 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: also think that leaving Isaiah mckenn thing that was Yes, 1057 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: that was bad. When they drafted Marcus Jones, well that 1058 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: was going to be my last point. Yes, all of 1059 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: this is right. Get get on Josh Allen, make him uncomfortable, 1060 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: takeaway the deep shot. That all works as long as 1061 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same option open repeatedly in the 1062 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: short and intermediate area of the field. Yeah, Myles Bryant 1063 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: struggled at the beginning of this season. He's had a 1064 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: good couple of months. But I learned one thing from 1065 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: those matchups last year. Said he does not have the 1066 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: foot speed to keep up with Isaiah McKenzie. They turned 1067 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 1: it into a foot rate. It wasn't this complicated scheme 1068 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: or anything like That field was faster than you. Not 1069 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: your game, Miles. When they drafted Marcus Jones, Evan is 1070 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: he my first thought, me too, But is he ready? 1071 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: I He's shown me enough that I'm I'm willing to 1072 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: try it out and find out. My fear is that 1073 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: they won't get there until Isaiah McKenzie has already beat 1074 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 1: that drum like six times, right, Like I think he's 1075 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah, and look, they didn't adjust out of 1076 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: it last year. Now, the personnel made it difficult to adjust. 1077 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: They didn't have these so many guys were hurt. That's 1078 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: why I like their chances better this time. Marcus Jones 1079 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: has played sixty seven coverage snaps this year. He's been 1080 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: targeted six times. He's allowed to catch on two of those. Yeah, no, 1081 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,839 Speaker 1: he's been fine. I I here, here's the Bills are 1082 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 1: better than the Patriots. There I said that the Bills 1083 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: are better than Patriots. You're gonna you're gonna have to 1084 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 1: take some risks to win this game. Would you disagree 1085 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: with that? If you're the Patriots, You're gonna have to 1086 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 1: take some risks to win this game. That's seeing if 1087 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Jones can cover Isaia McKenzie is a risky. Think 1088 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: it's a good risk to take as long as you're 1089 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: willing to adjust out of it if it doesn't work. 1090 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: But like, that's something to start the game. I want 1091 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: to see that because I think he might be up 1092 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: to it. And if he is up to it, it 1093 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: changes the dynamic. So I think we agree more than 1094 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: we disagree. But I think the biggest thing to me 1095 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: is that I think you're just scared of Josh Allen. 1096 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of Josh Allen as much as I 1097 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: am afraid of Josh. The way that they played him 1098 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: last year allowed Josh Allen's raw talent to take over 1099 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: the game. And that's what that's what he can't do, right. 1100 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: So to me, what I think they need to do, 1101 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: and this is why I got into some of the 1102 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: pressure stuff, which I think is key. So I would 1103 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: call him like fire zones right blitzay because I think, 1104 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: to me, what you need to do is make him 1105 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: beat you in structure, right, like when he has to 1106 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: hit the top of the drop and make a decision 1107 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: with the football, and because he's got a guy, you know, 1108 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: pressure coming at him and he's got to throw the 1109 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: football and he's not running around and he's not standing 1110 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: back there for six hours every single time he drops 1111 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: back the past like you need that. If they can win, 1112 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: if they can get him to make the majority of 1113 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: his throws and that two point five to three second range, right, 1114 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: then I think they have a really good chance to 1115 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: hold up in struct And I guess what I'm saying 1116 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: is I think and again we're just talking about that 1117 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 1: matchup here last year because the playoff game was different. 1118 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: So many guys are hurt. I think they were maybe 1119 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: closer to that last year than people realized. But because 1120 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie was so constantly open as a quick outlet, 1121 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: the rest of it just didn't show up. And that's 1122 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: not to excuse it again. This all you have to 1123 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: cover isa McKenzie's time. He just but that that was 1124 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: the game that Stefan Dicks had the least impact. They 1125 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 1: were able to take him away, and there were a 1126 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: couple of moments in that game where Josh Allen panics. 1127 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 1: Remember he threw one right to Jase Jackson at the 1128 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: end of that game in a five point game that 1129 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: might have turned it. Yes, But for every time he 1130 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: was panicked, there were five times where he had that 1131 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: safety outlet and Isaiah McKenzie with nobody near him. And 1132 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that Marcus Jones is blanking isa McKenzie, 1133 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: but Kenny at least forced Josh Allen to fit the 1134 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 1: ball into a window. He's got enough footspeed because we 1135 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: know he can run with That's the thing. Some of 1136 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: those throws tri za mckenzion. Again, this is where I 1137 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: get criticized for being too harsh, but it's right. Go 1138 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: back and watch it. Some of those throws Isa McKenzie 1139 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: had to go get They weren't They weren't horrible throws, 1140 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: but they weren't necessarily right between them, he made one 1141 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: throw on a crossing route, just one nice throw. Yes, 1142 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: but no some of those some of you remember McKenzie 1143 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 1: had to go up on the jump ball, there was one. 1144 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: He had a couple. But Isam McKenzie's also like five 1145 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: to seven, So a jump ball for him is you know, 1146 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily. But you're taking as a guy that is 1147 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 1: not very tall. By the way, I'm not taking any shot. 1148 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: You're talking about forcing Josh Allen to play in structure. Yes, 1149 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: isn't part of that forcing him to fit the ball 1150 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: into windows? Yeah? They didn't do that last year. How 1151 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: often last year when he's throwing, say McKenzie, did he 1152 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: have to fit the ball into a window. That's fair. 1153 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 1: I also think you can bat him right, Like I 1154 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: think that some of the interceptions that I've seen on 1155 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: his tape recently are because he's so damn greedy, Like 1156 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: he thinks that there's not a single throw on the 1157 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: planet that he's don't think react quarterback. He just thinks 1158 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: that there's he just thinks his arm strength is going 1159 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: to get the ball into every window right right, So 1160 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: there's instances there where if you can close those zone gaps, 1161 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: then you can get some plays on the ball. All right, 1162 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: we got two more callers and then we got to 1163 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,959 Speaker 1: wrap it up. All right, spee, let's go twelve rounds. 1164 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: What do you got? Great? No, you guys are you 1165 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: guys are killing it today. This is an excellent discussion. 1166 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: I love I love Myles Bryan on the bench and uh, 1167 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, think that'll be that'd be great. No, it's thoughts. 1168 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to get back to stuff that you guys 1169 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier because I was oddly kind of 1170 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: agreeing with everything that Evan was saying and kind of 1171 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: disagreeing with Alex pretty good across the part. But like 1172 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, um, you know, Alex, your net 1173 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: neutral idea. Yeah, and I want to and this is 1174 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: just better suited for this show than pictures Unfilder, because 1175 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of a data driven thing. Like a while ago, 1176 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: I went back and looked on over the cap for 1177 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: just at at cap costs and cash costs for all 1178 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in nineteen ninety one through twenty twenty one, 1179 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 1: and if there's just an overwhelming theme when you look 1180 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: at all these so like, um, you have to have 1181 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl winning team is what I'm talking about. Sorry, 1182 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't cleared. So basically, you need to have a 1183 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: quarterback who's either Hall of Famer or borderline hall of 1184 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: Famer on a team friendly deal. So like, only twenty 1185 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: three percent of those quarterbacks super Bowl wining quarterbacks were 1186 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: top five in league in cap and only thirty two 1187 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: percent we're top five in cash. So I just think 1188 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: that you're you're I mean, if this is this kind 1189 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: of harkens back to your discussion earlier today with Evan, 1190 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: where I think Evan was just knit completely right. Like 1191 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: you look at a mac Jones. Do you need him 1192 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: to be somebody who's gonna pull the team up by 1193 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: the bootstrops from the fourth quarter at some point to 1194 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: win it all? You need a quarterback who can do that. Well, 1195 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: you're preaching to the choir here, spe I think that 1196 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: that's I think we're Alex and I, or maybe I 1197 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't explain myself articulate myself as the best is I'm 1198 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: not expecting him to do that every game right, But 1199 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: when the when when things go poorly like they did 1200 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving night for the defense and for the special teams, 1201 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: the fact that that game is like almost like an 1202 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: automatic l at that point if we tell you that 1203 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly how the game is going to play out 1204 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: and the defense is not going to play very well, 1205 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson's gonna go for nine for one thirty nine 1206 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: in a touch and special teams is going to give 1207 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: up a touchdown, and you're we all could have written 1208 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: the story before the game even started and say that 1209 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose, and that that's the part that gets 1210 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: and I guess I just more more my point. No, 1211 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: I would just like, like to the point you're making. 1212 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: And I know this sounds like a cop out, but 1213 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: averages don't mean anything to the individual, right. Most of 1214 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, like you said, so, I don't know what 1215 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: you defined as a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback, but 1216 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, hall of Fame quarter caliber 1217 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: quarterback on a team friendly deal. There's been expensive quarterbacks 1218 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: that have won Super Bowls. There's been non Hall of 1219 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks that have won. Telling you that most of 1220 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: the case, the times they are not as expensive as 1221 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: as the other top quarterback in the league. So so 1222 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: you're saying it's more about contract than ability, which would 1223 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: back to my point about the Brady model. Think about 1224 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 1: the Brading model, right like, and that's and that basically, 1225 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: even though Brady is special, it is a unicorn. That 1226 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: model does generalize back in ninety ninety one. Right, So 1227 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: so you're green with that. But that agrees with my point. 1228 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: That makes my point, except except that it's not. These 1229 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: are not in that neutral quarterback They're good. They're they're 1230 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: like Hall of Fame or Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks 1231 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: who have basically allowed enough money to be spent elsewhere 1232 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: to be able to shore up. But so, so okay, 1233 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: so here's my point. So so this is where where 1234 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: we diverge. I'm I'm throwing my idea out as as 1235 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: the way the league is trending, not the way it's gone. 1236 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as one give me one data point, 1237 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,959 Speaker 1: give me one data point. With the day the league 1238 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: trending that way, when zero quarterbacks who fit that description 1239 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: of bonus title, well, because it's trending that way, it 1240 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Yet here's what I here's what I would say, Well, 1241 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: all right, all right, hang on, here's what I would 1242 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 1: tell you. The concept of a good, affordable quarterback doesn't 1243 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: exist anymore. Every single deal these quarterbacks sign breaks some 1244 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: sort of record. It wasn't like that for a while. 1245 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: It's been that way the last three four or five years. Right. 1246 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: The quarterback you're describing. The only way to get that 1247 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: quarterback now is going to be through the draft. Right, 1248 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: So that in essence sort of mat we're just discounting 1249 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, right, I'm not just I just also, is 1250 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is? Is Matt Stafford special? Yeah? I wouldn't 1251 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: put him in that. You're talking about Hall of Fame 1252 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: caliber quarterbacks. He led the league in picks last year. 1253 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: I think Matt Stafford is a great example, honestly of 1254 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 1: what my point. Yeah, yet won a title for a 1255 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: team that didn't go He won a title for a 1256 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: team that was stacked, right, But he was affordable. He 1257 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: was like exactly, he was affordable. So all right, So 1258 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's him, right, I don't understand. Yeah, 1259 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying that he's a good don't know when 1260 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: did he sign that deal? When did he sign that deal. 1261 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: He's a he's not allow he's a Hall of Famer, 1262 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 1: maybe because of his his inflated numbers by Matthew Stafford 1263 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. No, my point is getting in Afford, 1264 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,479 Speaker 1: like you can't draft a quarterback, develop and then signed 1265 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: him in Like, if you have a good quarterback, you 1266 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: can't afford all the other bells and whistles in the 1267 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: modern NFL. I got this. I mean this is Bill 1268 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Barnwell wrote a column about this like a few years ago, 1269 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: and that's where the thought kind of first occurred to me. 1270 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: And that's what I did this analysis. But I just again, 1271 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm trying to find the middle 1272 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 1: ground between your take and the empirical reality of the 1273 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: quality of these quarterbacks. We are winning everything. They're just 1274 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe you're saying things shifted in recent history, and I'm 1275 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,959 Speaker 1: saying they're shifting in that direction. This this theory doesn't 1276 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: apply to nineteen ninety one, to two thousand and one, 1277 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: even to two thousand and eleven. This is a very 1278 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: recent recent you know, it's really only been the last 1279 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: two or three years you've seen teams go like all right, 1280 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Penney Sewell and J. C. Horne being drafted ahead of 1281 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Justin Fields doesn't happen three or four years ago. Like 1282 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: even as recently as three four, five years ago, that 1283 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: doesn't happen. That's a relatively new phenomenal think. I think. 1284 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the disconnect in our discussion 1285 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: about this is that I think you're kind of talking 1286 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: about getting the okay ball and I'm talking about winning 1287 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, like and maybe that's just too stringent. 1288 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: The criteria is something, but you, I think all are 1289 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I think all Alex's point is, and I agree with 1290 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: most of it, is that there is a path to 1291 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl without having Patrick Mahomes on your roster. Right, So, 1292 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: I guess here's what kills me. If the Niners had 1293 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: won in twenty nineteen, I'm a genius. But they didn't 1294 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: lose because of poor roster construction. They lost because their 1295 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: coach blew the game. Why were they throwing the ball 1296 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garb It could have run out the clock, 1297 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: But that's the point, that's the point. Why would they 1298 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: throwing the Sorry problem, you have a quarterback. You can't 1299 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 1: make that thrill. That's part of the problem. He was 1300 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: wide open. They didn't need to throw that. It's not 1301 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: like they were down to It's not like they were 1302 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: down two scores. It's not like they were down two 1303 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: scores and Jimmy Garoppolo couldn't lead them back. Okay, man speed. 1304 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the call man. Anytime you want to 1305 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: call in the floor is yours to argue with Alex, 1306 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 1: which I really appreciate. And then he always brings up 1307 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Jimmy Garoppolo and ignores that forever ignore is 1308 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the fact that he missed a wide open touch. They 1309 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: didn't need to throw the ball because they didn't need 1310 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: a throw ball. Ben and Maryland wrap us up here, Ben, 1311 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: what do you got? Hey? Y'all? This has been my 1312 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: favorite podcast episode yet. I have to say thank you. 1313 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 1: I have to say that I've agreed with Alex most 1314 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of the show, darn it. But anyway, be watching the 1315 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: All twenty two from last year, it felt like the 1316 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Patriots really like never blitz Alan and let Alan Alan, 1317 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, extend plays on food, down, both down, all 1318 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. So I want the Patriots to blitz lots, 1319 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: to bring in Jude on Wise all of that, and 1320 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 1: also wondering if you just as signed a player like 1321 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, Mac Wilson to follow him all night quarterback 1322 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: spy kind of thing. But yeah, that's it. Yes, love it, 1323 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: love it, Love it, Ben. That's I think exactly what 1324 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: we were trying to get to. And thanks for the call. 1325 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Is that put some pressure on him, dial up some 1326 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: blitzes when you do play man coverage. Then a guy 1327 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: like Mac Wilson's the perfect spy, right, And I think 1328 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: what's cool about some of the things that they do. 1329 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I I got into this rabbit hole, and when I 1330 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 1: was writing up my game preview, I didn't fully go 1331 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: there because the Patriots don't do a ton of it. 1332 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: But Georgia and the Sabin Tree runs this front called 1333 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: Odd Mirror, which is a three down front, and there's 1334 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: a fourth guy who's kind of like a free player. 1335 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: And basically the whole design of the front again it's 1336 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: called Odd Mirror, is that those three guys are let loose, 1337 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: like they have the freedom to just beat the guy 1338 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 1: in front of them. Just do whatever you want. Don't 1339 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: worry about rush lane integrity, don't worry about the mobile quarterback. 1340 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Just go get the QB. And that fourth guy who's 1341 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: usually standing up on the line of scrimmage is the 1342 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: is the spy, right, So what they do that really 1343 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: really well is they funnel the quarterback in one direction 1344 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: so that the spy is not trying to spy him 1345 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: from sideline to sideline, but instead he has an idea 1346 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: of where exactly they're leading the quarterback to. So, for example, 1347 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: if like they want to let Judeon you know, just 1348 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: loops on the edge, like maybe it's like, okay, I'm 1349 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna rush him from the backside on the left tackle 1350 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: who happens to be a backup because Deon Dawkins isn't 1351 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: playing in this game. So mac Wilson, you know, that 1352 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: non armed side is where Josh Allen's going to escape 1353 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 1: the pocket from, which is what you want to do. 1354 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: And I think mac Wilson played that role the right Alabama. Um, yeah, no, 1355 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 1: that that's a great That's the key. The key to it, though, 1356 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: is as much as you're letting the rushers free, they 1357 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: have to still rush within that structure. Yeah. I would 1358 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: also say Alabama in recent years to struggle against mobile 1359 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks like the Patriots have. You know, yeah, they have. 1360 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: You saw what Hendon Hooker did to them extending plays 1361 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. So, uh, you know against 1362 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the guy, this was more. I believe this is more 1363 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: of a Kirby thing, Like I think this is more 1364 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: of a Georgia that would make sense. Yeah, No, I 1365 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: know Alabama runs it, but I think they've I think 1366 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 1: it's more. I think Georgia doesn't were an Alabama. Maybe 1367 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Georgia does it better. Well, well, I mean you look 1368 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: at who they had, like some of the guys they've 1369 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 1: had the last couple of years, Play Walker into Kobe 1370 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Dean with with those guys they've had up front, Jordan 1371 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: Davis like, come on, get out of here that. Yeah, 1372 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: they've they've had just unbelievable talent upfront. Um, we didn't 1373 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 1: touch too much on the offense. So yeah, I at 1374 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: one point on the offense, and I pretty much make 1375 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 1: this point every time the Patriots play a high flying 1376 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: off offense on the other side. And I talked about 1377 01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 1: it for the Billy Bucks last year the Cowboys. The 1378 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing the Patriots offense can do in this game 1379 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: other than score points. I know you want them to 1380 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: score points, really is shorten the game? Shorten the game 1381 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: You're going old school on me. Keep the clock, but 1382 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: it works even it works, keep the clock running. Limit 1383 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: the number of plays, limit the number of drives. Because 1384 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about the Bills margin for error. 1385 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 1: They turn the ball over a lot, but they can 1386 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: make up for it. The way to shrink that margin 1387 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: for error. You look at where they've won a lot 1388 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 1: of these games. The last couple of weeks. They've won it. 1389 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,600 Speaker 1: People say, oh, they're winning games in the fourth quarter. No, 1390 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: they're winning well, they are, but they're winning games on 1391 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 1: the tenth, eleventh, twelfth drive of the game. If you 1392 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,560 Speaker 1: keep that clock running, might be the fourth quarter. But 1393 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: that tenth drive is not gonna come right. Last year 1394 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: against Tampa, I said, I said, they have to keep 1395 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: Tampa to under eight drives or eight or under drives. 1396 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Tampa scored a game winning touchdown on the ninth drive 1397 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: of the game. Now, shortening the game, that means ball control, 1398 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: It means converting third downs, it means extending drives. These 1399 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: are things that the Patriots they're you know, third down percentage, 1400 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: average drive length, average drive time, average rise per game. 1401 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: They're in the bottom ten, you know, bottom third of 1402 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: the league, and all of that so this is this 1403 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: is all well, here's the thing. We're just talking about 1404 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 1: what they need to do. It's all much easier said 1405 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: than done. But if they can find some sort of 1406 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: rhythm offensively where they keep it moving, that's how they're 1407 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Can I give you the one 1408 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 1: sliver of hope on this. I know you say they're 1409 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: not great with this. Yeah, the Bills are one of 1410 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league and covering tight ends, 1411 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and it's been especially a big problem for them since 1412 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde went on irm as you would expect. Great 1413 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: way to extend a game is run the ball. Run 1414 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,600 Speaker 1: the ball, run the ball. When they come out to 1415 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: take that away, go play action, throw it to the 1416 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 1: tight end. I know this is something we've called for 1417 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: for two years and hasn't happened, But if there was 1418 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: ever a time to do it, and the kicker. The 1419 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 1: Bills are also one of the worst tackling teams in 1420 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 1: the league. They don't tackle well in the open field. 1421 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 1: This is such a game where play action. Hit your 1422 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: tight ends in the flat, let them run with the 1423 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 1: ball after the catch. This is such a game for 1424 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: that con sept. Will they do it? We'll see it's 1425 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,719 Speaker 1: not the first time if somebody sat here and called 1426 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: for it, but this is a game where that that 1427 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 1: sort of game plan could serve them very well. So 1428 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the Lions actually did well off play action. But for 1429 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: the most part, the Bills have been really good play 1430 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: action defense. But I think the main reason why they've 1431 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 1: been so good is because a lot of play action. 1432 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: This is gonna sound counterttuitive to everything that I've said 1433 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: all year, I admit that, but a lot of the 1434 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: play action concepts that teams run aimed to attack the linebackers, 1435 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: and they're linebackers are excellent in coverage, right Jamaine Edmonds 1436 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 1: and Matt Mulatta is probably the best coverage duo at 1437 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. So what the Lions did was 1438 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: they ran a lot of those like seven eight protect 1439 01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 1: big drop play action against them where they got those 1440 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: corners Dan Jackson, you know guy a Xavier Rhodes. I 1441 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 1: don't think he played in that game yet, but that 1442 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna play it tomorrow night. Like those guys were 1443 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 1: on islands against the moder Ross Saint Brown a lot 1444 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: of the game and that's how they did it. So 1445 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: I think that those the play action concepts. We've actually 1446 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: seen them run a lot of more with Bailey Zappy, 1447 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: but then a little bit with Mac over the last 1448 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: two weeks. I think those, ironically, because I've been saying 1449 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: ditch them, right, I think those actually came back, come 1450 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 1: back to in play. And I think the biggest reason why, 1451 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: to kind of my overarching point with the offense is 1452 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 1: that just like the defense, you gotta do something different, 1453 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,040 Speaker 1: right like what you what you're They know your bread 1454 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: and butter. Teams are selling the run and teams they 1455 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 1: know they know you're gonna try to run gap at 1456 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 1: them because that's what you did in the win game 1457 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and we're so successful with you know that they know 1458 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to run gap at them, and they 1459 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: know that you want to throw the ball to in 1460 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 1: breaking rats over the middle of the field, right like 1461 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: they know that that's your bread and butter. So last 1462 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 1: year they played more man coverage than they usually do 1463 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 1: in that Week sixteen game, and they played a lot 1464 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: of inside leverage. Right. The corners were taking inside leverage 1465 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 1: instead of outside position to try to take away and 1466 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 1: cut off the middle of the field. So on top 1467 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know having some compliments or 1468 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: having some tendency breakers to those types of things where 1469 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Jakobe Myers runs a ten yard out 1470 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: instead of a ten yard dig or something like that. 1471 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: I think that these bigger drop back, you know, bigger, 1472 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, deeper play action plays that they've developed this 1473 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 1: year is something that Buffalo has not necessarily seen you do, right, 1474 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: because you've always been so caught up in the second 1475 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 1: level play action plays. So I think that's a big 1476 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: part this secondary for the Bills, and now that they 1477 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: don't have Von Miller, which I think is huge, This 1478 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: secondary for Buffalo is banged up. They are not the 1479 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 1: same secondary that they've been that that safety tandem is 1480 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: now broken right because Mica Hide's not playing, Jordan Poyer 1481 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: has been in and out of the lineup. Ddavious White's 1482 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: supposed to play more this week, but he's still coming 1483 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: back from that acl and they've had a lot of 1484 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: issues at the second outside cornerback spot. They've revolved the 1485 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: revolving door there. Dame Jackson I mentioned that Ben Ford, 1486 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: who's now on injured reserve Kayer Elam, their first round pick, 1487 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,599 Speaker 1: has kind of been a bus so far. So they 1488 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,680 Speaker 1: are really struggling to find consistent play out of their 1489 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,560 Speaker 1: cbe two spot. So those are the areas that I 1490 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 1: think you can attack this Bills defense, and without von Miller, 1491 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: maybe you have some more time to do it. I 1492 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 1: just had this lasting image from the game last year 1493 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: here where they're Patriots from that condensed formation. Nelson agiler 1494 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: is out wide. Yeah, everybody else is condensed. The Bills 1495 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: had one corner standing out with Nelson Agilor, and then 1496 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: they had ten guys in the box. They didn't have 1497 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: a deep safety. They weren't, you know, they they were 1498 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: just waiting for it. Yea. And I would expect the 1499 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Bills to give the Patriots a similar look again until 1500 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: they prove they can beat it. So you have to 1501 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 1: prove you can beat that look. And I go back 1502 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,040 Speaker 1: to play action and are you you're looking for the 1503 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: deep shots. To me, it's the tight ends they've They've 1504 01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 1: allowed the fifth most catches to tight ends in the 1505 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: league this year. You've got especially tight ends out of 1506 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: some of their spread looks. You gotta spread out, you 1507 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: gotta spread spread out. The play action stuff for is 1508 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: me attacking Milano and Edmunds feels like you're attacking this, 1509 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not necessarily saying play action to attack those guys. 1510 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're expecting you to run. Their gonna 1511 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: come out and expecting you to run. Maybe you can 1512 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. But especially John hu Smith, you 1513 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,800 Speaker 1: got a team that can't cover tight ends, that's bad 1514 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: at tackling after the catch. That should scream John. And 1515 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: look they have gotten them more involved the last two weeks, 1516 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 1: John who had six touches against the Jets, and then 1517 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry had the big game last week. Right, it's 1518 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: not close to what we were looking for coming into 1519 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the season, but they are starting to get a little 1520 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: more involved here. So I will say this, Alex, it's 1521 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: a good time to play the Bills. Like if you 1522 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: have you're gonna have to play the Bills twice a year. 1523 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: You can't, you can't avoid playing Buffalo. No, it's a 1524 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: good time to play the Bills. They have some guys out, 1525 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: starting left tackle out, Von Miller out, Micah Hide out 1526 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: for the year, Tredavious White still working his way back, 1527 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,720 Speaker 1: Edmonds has been banged up a little bit. So if 1528 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 1: you're this is as good of a situation to play 1529 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo as you're gonna get that other than Josh Allen 1530 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,320 Speaker 1: not playing in the game, right, all all I had 1531 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 1: did and this is kind of my big point on 1532 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: the whole game. And then I know we're running long here. 1533 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: I have to get this one out. U. I when 1534 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: I watched the Bills this year and really going back 1535 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: to last year, I've texted you about this a lot. 1536 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think teams respect the Bills too much. 1537 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: And what I mean, listen, listen, I don't mean that 1538 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: the Bills are overrated or anything like that. When the 1539 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 1: Ravens used to come in here. You see, I give 1540 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 1: the spiel. People say I'm hating on the Bills, and 1541 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: I can care them the Patriots, right, I think Judan's 1542 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: got a little bit out. He's no, he talked about it. 1543 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: So yeah. The reason the Ravens were the one team 1544 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: that always gave the Patriots fits is they were the 1545 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 1: one team that consistently when they played the Patriots. Whatever, Man, 1546 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 1: we're NFL players, they're NFL players, will figure we're gonna 1547 01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: do what we do because we believe in what we 1548 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,719 Speaker 1: do and we're gonna trust ourselves. When the Patriots played 1549 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Brady last year, Matthew Jude I don't remember exactly what 1550 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: it was, but it was something to the effect of, yeah, 1551 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,479 Speaker 1: he's Tom Brady, but he's human. He's an NFL quarterback. 1552 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 1: We faced NFL quarterbacks before and they almost beat him. 1553 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean take them lightly, but what it means 1554 01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 1: is Patriots. I know people are down on them. They 1555 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 1: made the playoffs last year. The ove these guys are 1556 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL for a reason, right, just just kidding. 1557 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying run the same stuff 1558 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: they always, but like, don't reinvent the wheel. I see 1559 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: so many teams they play the bills, and they diverge 1560 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 1: so extremely from what they usually do, and they come 1561 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: up with these super intricate game plans and it's like, 1562 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: all right, in theory, that's a nice idea in theory 1563 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: that will work, but you don't have the personnelity execute 1564 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: it to do things they can't do right, Gotta do 1565 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:35,839 Speaker 1: something different, do something different, but operate within your strength. 1566 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Don't like a perfect example last year, Miles Bryant just 1567 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,600 Speaker 1: wasn't fast enough to cover Aza McKenzie. It was again, 1568 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily hate the coverage plan they had last year, 1569 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 1: but they didn't have the players to execute it. You 1570 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 1: can't just go reinventing the wheel because the Bills are 1571 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 1: this big scary offense. I think you still at the 1572 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 1: end of the day, any and this is about any matchup, 1573 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: you have to play to your strengths. If you don't 1574 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: play to your strengths, you're not gonna win the game, 1575 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: regardless of who you are as a team, regardless of 1576 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: who you're playing. You know who does a great job 1577 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 1: of playing to their strengths. The Bills, they almost do 1578 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 1: it to the other extreme. They almost do it to 1579 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 1: a fault. The Wind game, they did not adjust because 1580 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 1: they said, we don't run the ball. Well, we have 1581 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, so we're just gonna throw because that's what 1582 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 1: we do well. I think so many teams, so many 1583 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: teams get away from so many teams get away from 1584 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 1: their identity against teams like the Bills, against teams like 1585 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: like this isn't just the Bills, the old Patriots. You 1586 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: see it against the Chiefs, although you see it a 1587 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 1: lot less now. And look that's what's happening. The Chiefs 1588 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: are in some more rock fights. You can't get away 1589 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 1: from your identity in this game. You just can't do 1590 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: it because that's how the game will get away from 1591 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 1: you quicker than anything else. Okay, so my two things. 1592 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: I want to wrap this on three things. Two things, 1593 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: three things whatever. One. Number one I need I need. 1594 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: I need a Bill game plan out of this, right, 1595 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Like I need some old school like this is like 1596 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 1: we're putting it Thurman Thomas in the Hall of Fame 1597 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,560 Speaker 1: because Bill took them out of the Super Bowl, Like 1598 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: like I need this. But that's my point Bill, this 1599 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 1: like Bill needs to get in the lab and be Bill. Yes, 1600 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: that's that has to be. You are only gonna win 1601 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: this game if after the game on Thursday night early 1602 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 1: Friday morning, when you and I are in the press box, 1603 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 1: were like, holy crap, that was a hell game plan 1604 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: by Bill, right, Like that's the only way that they're 1605 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,559 Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Number two, I'm gonna go back 1606 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 1: to my quarterback thing. The other way you're gonna win 1607 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,760 Speaker 1: this game is if Mac Jones makes some plays in 1608 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Like you're not gonna avoid that, Like 1609 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be up two scores in the fourth quarter. 1610 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: So the quarterback's gonna have to make some plays in 1611 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter as well. And if you can get 1612 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 1: those two things and one of them, I mean both 1613 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 1: of them kind of have eluded them a little bit here, 1614 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 1: especially more than before with Bill. I would say, if 1615 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 1: you can get those two things checked off, and I 1616 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: think that you have a good chance in this game. 1617 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 1: And the last thing I will say. I'm not gonna 1618 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: preface this very carefully because I do not want them 1619 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: to purposely try to injure Josh Allen. That's not this 1620 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,120 Speaker 1: is I was. I didn't want to say it. I'm 1621 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, but thank you Mac Wilson and Jabriel Peppers. 1622 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Is a message for both of you, if you have 1623 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,759 Speaker 1: a chance to line him up, line him up, okay, 1624 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 1: because everybody else that you see play against this guy 1625 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it. So they don't want to 1626 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 1: put their shoulder into him because he's two hundred and 1627 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: fifty pounds and he's a beast. Okay, But I see 1628 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: those two guys lay out big who I think would 1629 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 1: definitely respond to that message. Matthew jud Yeah, this goes 1630 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: back to me. But he's important, So like I don't 1631 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: want to because if they because what's gonna happen as 1632 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,679 Speaker 1: as soon as they lay him out all the flags 1633 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: are in the air, and now all of Buffalo is 1634 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna want the guy ejected from the yards here. Okay, 1635 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: here's the thing. This goes back to their spec thing. Yeah, 1636 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: players don't want to tackle Josh Allen. I don't know 1637 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: if it's because he's big or it's got don't want 1638 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,759 Speaker 1: to be the guy. I don't want you to tackle 1639 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 1: him where like he runs you over and then he's 1640 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 1: flaxing on you and stuff. I don't want to see anything. 1641 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I forget who it was who said it this week. 1642 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 1: It might have it might have been wise, It might 1643 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 1: have somebody said it. Yeah, when he runs the ball, 1644 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: you got to make him feel it. Yeah, absolutely, and 1645 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,560 Speaker 1: again sank try to hurt him. No dirty place. But 1646 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: now when this is a talking place. As long as 1647 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been scrambling going back to fran freakin Tarkington 1648 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: as I know you hate going back, but this is 1649 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: will you Sammy by listen, I did he run? I 1650 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: think this is something we can agree on. That's an 1651 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: old school football talking point, and there aren't many of those. 1652 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: When the quarterback decides to become a runner, Yes, you 1653 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: need to make him pay for it. You need to 1654 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: make him feel it that it's as true now as 1655 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 1: it was in the days of slinging, said luckman, I 1656 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,080 Speaker 1: think it was slinging Sammy ball or whatever. You know 1657 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 1: the point, you know the point I'm trying to make here, 1658 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 1: would you disagree? Disagree? I watched their games all the time, 1659 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 1: and I watched Josh Allen. He runs over a defensive 1660 01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: back and then he's flexing on him and thank him. 1661 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 1: But he in a blanket as they escored him out 1662 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,640 Speaker 1: of my own And that's how they get him all 1663 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: fired up. Like that's how he gets into the game, right, 1664 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 1: That's how he gets his juices flowing. It's that hockey 1665 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,960 Speaker 1: mentality where like every team, like you know, when Pasta 1666 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: gets hit too hard, there's like six bruins that like 1667 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: come to his defense, right, Like that's that's what they 1668 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: gotta be able to do it. I think that goes 1669 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,800 Speaker 1: to your point of not over hyping the bills in 1670 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 1: your hands, right, like that getting too That's a better 1671 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: way to say it than teams respect the bills too much. 1672 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 1: But I like the reaction when I say, all right, well, 1673 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 1: we appreciate Marine Mad for hanging on for twenty five 1674 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: extra minutes on the Five here today and uh Alex 1675 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and I will be back next week, same time, same place, 1676 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 1: hopefully talking about how Bill Belichick did a great job 1677 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 1: of stopping Josh Allen and just like slimming Sammy Barr 1678 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: or whatever said luck then Otto Graham they leave him. 1679 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to everybody who We'll talk 1680 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: to you next week. 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