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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey besties.

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Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're giving you a crash

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Speaker 2: course on how to land your dream job. Joining us

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Speaker 2: our LinkedIn insiders and the hosts of the new podcast

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Speaker 2: Let's Talk Offline, Gianna and Jammy are here. They're sharing

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Speaker 2: their expert tips on how to make your resume stand out.

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Speaker 2: The best way is to get noticed by recruiters, plus

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Speaker 2: the top strategies to negotiate confidently.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday, January thirteenth. I'm Danielle Robe and.

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Speaker 2: I'm simoone Boyce and this is the bright Side from

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Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, bright Side, besties. We are going to keep

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Speaker 2: it real with you, as we always do. It has

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Speaker 2: been an excruciating, heartbreaking, terrifying week here in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: with these unprecedented wildfires that are tearing through our city.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, our thoughts are with the first responders

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Speaker 2: who are out there protecting our homes in our city

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Speaker 2: and the families who have lost everything and been displaced

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Speaker 2: by this tragedy. Danielle, I just want to start with

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Speaker 2: a quick check in, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I feel okay. I've noticed that my nervous system is shot.

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Speaker 3: I'm just really tired how are you? Yeah, same, Yesterday

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Speaker 3: was particularly rough. I kind of had an emotional breakdown yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It's exactly what you're saying. You know, my nervous system

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Speaker 2: And for anyone who isn't here in Los Angeles right now,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to describe the sheer panic and

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Speaker 2: fear that's coursing through our veins right now. And as

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Speaker 2: a mom, it's also been really hard because I'm trying

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Speaker 2: my best to just like keep it together for my

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie. It's very difficult to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been thinking about parents a lot during this time,

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Speaker 3: because I think it's really confusing to try and explain

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Speaker 3: what's happening to little kids in particular. I actually did

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Speaker 3: evacuate a few nights ago, and I drove to Newport

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Speaker 3: and I think snagged the last hotel.

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Speaker 1: Room in like one hundred mile radius.

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Speaker 3: It was so hard to get a hotel room and

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Speaker 3: drove back, and you know, the air quality is bad,

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Speaker 3: and I'm one of the lucky people, right Like, my

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Speaker 3: my apartment's still intact, And I guess I want to

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Speaker 3: highlight something that inspired me in the midst of so

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Speaker 3: much tragedy. I think that in the worst of times,

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Speaker 3: you really get to see the best of people. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I grew up in Chicago in a very

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Speaker 3: tight knit community, so community has always been at the

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Speaker 3: very core of who I am, Like I put people

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Speaker 3: over everything, and when I moved to LA, I desperately

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Speaker 3: missed that. I used to feel like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if if I don't have that here or if maybe

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Speaker 3: LA just doesn't have that. It's such a transient city.

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Speaker 3: And for the first time since I've lived here, I

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Speaker 3: Over the past few days, I've witnessed an incredible outpouring

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Speaker 3: of generosity, of kindness and that community. I mean, neighbors

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Speaker 3: Brands and businesses are opening their doors. It's been a

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Speaker 3: really powerful reminder of how resilient and connected we can

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Speaker 3: be when it matters most. And you know, one of

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Speaker 3: the wonderful people that works at Hello Sunshine is named

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Speaker 3: Cassie Lambert, and she reposted something on her Instagram that

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Speaker 3: I absolutely loved. I just want to read it off

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Speaker 3: to you, she said, and this was her repost. I

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Speaker 3: but this city is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: At its core.

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles is a proud, blue collar city with people

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Speaker 3: so encouraged by how generous everyone has been. We will

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it really is.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Simone, you and I both love art

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Speaker 3: I came here to create art. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, La and California in general, we are a resilient city,

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Speaker 2: underscores what we're talking about, Danielle, really underscores like the

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Speaker 2: it's just about focusing on the people in your life

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Speaker 2: that matter most. And the research underscores this.

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Speaker 1: Oh what does the research say.

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Speaker 2: Well, she cites one of the longest running studies on

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Speaker 2: us to see this shift, this marker and time as

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to think about happiness not as just this

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, the US Surgeon General, doctor Vivek. Murphy,

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Speaker 3: he's really talking about a cultural shift to rebuild community

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Speaker 2: else thinks. It could look like upgrading, you know, acquaintance

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Speaker 2: Another way to build some more connection this year could

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Speaker 2: And there's something so intimate about doing those mundane tasks together.

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Speaker 3: I have a friend named Brooke and we meet at

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Speaker 2: It's a great way for recipe discovery too. I love.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite things to do is just go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bonding.

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Speaker 2: Another way to connect in a real way this year

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Speaker 2: is by throwing a party. This is fascinating. According to

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Speaker 2: the Atlantic, Americans are in a party deficit. So on average,

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Speaker 2: only about four percent of Americans attended or hosted a

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Speaker 1: I've been in a party deficit my whole life. This

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Speaker 2: But that's by choice.

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Speaker 3: No, totally by choice. No, that's four percent. Feels shocking.

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Speaker 3: What do they consider a party? That's a good question,

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Speaker 3: Like is a Shabbat dinner? Does that count?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question because I feel like there have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, when it comes to relationships and connections,

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Speaker 3: so many of us could really benefit from just a jumpstart, right,

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Speaker 3: careers as well. So today we're bringing in two LinkedIn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, online sites like LinkedIn have really changed

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Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about personal brand, and our guests today are

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Speaker 2: I'm always going to listen to what the younger generations

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, our guest today are young and they do know

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Speaker 3: what they're talking about. Gianna Prudente and Jammy Jackson Gadson

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Speaker 3: Gadson is a LinkedIn Community manager and she leads workshops

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Speaker 1: And we're with them right after the break, stay with.

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Speaker 2: Us, Gianna Jamay, welcome to the bright side.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you, thank you for having us so.

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Speaker 2: Jianna, you are LinkedIn's editor focused on early career develment.

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Speaker 2: I know that you report on workplace trends, so as

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Speaker 2: a gen Z or yourself, please please help us millennials

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Speaker 2: out what is gen Z doing in the workplace that

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, what are we not doing?

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Speaker 6: I feel like everyone you know, it's bringing something unique

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Speaker 1: What I love it, including all of your feelings, Jill.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you for validating that.

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Speaker 1: So we need that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, there's a time and place to be super buttoned

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Speaker 6: and I think we're bringing that to the table.

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Speaker 6: So maybe it's something you saw my profile that stood out,

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Speaker 2: I guess I think that's so true. Got to it's

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Speaker 2: put in an ask Jamay, I want to go back

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Speaker 7: Ooh, I love this question. Elements that make a good

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Speaker 2: I made the crappiest, most embarrassing business cards you have

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Speaker 7: What you have on your smartphone can get you started,

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Speaker 7: whatever makes you feel good, whatever makes you feel confident.

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Speaker 5: You do not have to break the bank for any

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Speaker 5: of this.

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Speaker 3: I think you're such a great example of it working

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Speaker 3: because you said you wanted to be a host, you

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Speaker 3: wanted to be a media personality, and now you and

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Speaker 3: Gianna host a podcast for LinkedIn, and each episode tackles

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Speaker 3: a different work related challenge, and there's one that talks

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Speaker 3: about resumes and profiles and key steps to showing up.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of want to go through a few

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Speaker 1: of those. Is that cool for sure?

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Speaker 5: Oats.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people applying to the same positions.

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Speaker 3: How can somebody use their LinkedIn profile to get noticed

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Speaker 3: by recruiters.

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Speaker 1: One thing they can do.

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Speaker 4: I would say, highlight your skills.

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Speaker 6: We know that recruiters are increasingly searching for candidates by

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Speaker 6: skills over experience, so there's options to demonstrate skills and

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Speaker 6: have those flex on your profile.

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Speaker 4: So I think pay a lot of attention to your

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Speaker 4: skills section.

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Speaker 6: I realized I had an update in mind for a

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Speaker 6: while and I was like, ooh, I gotta go back

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Speaker 6: and figure this out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I would definitely add again though that also, like the

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Speaker 7: storytelling is so unique. There are hundreds of hosts out there,

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Speaker 7: there's hundreds of whatever your title is, what's going to

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Speaker 7: make you different? And if you can start to show

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Speaker 7: the receipts because honey, one thing we can't argue is receipts.

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Speaker 5: We can't argue receipts and data.

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Speaker 7: Okay, if you can show the receipts and the impact

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Speaker 7: that you have had in the different places and the

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Speaker 7: roles that you've had, that is what's going to make

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Speaker 7: you enticing to a recruiter. Gianna knows. I like to say,

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Speaker 7: you got to make yourself sexy Okay, you got to

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Speaker 7: make sure everybody wants you.

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Speaker 3: What's an example of that, Like I took our sales

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Speaker 3: revenue from X to Y.

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And so honestly, I see that a lot of

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Speaker 7: people where they make the mistake. And I've been guilty

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Speaker 7: of this too. You know how to say what you did?

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Speaker 7: You really don't know how to dial it back to

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Speaker 7: the company bottom line? What impact did it have? Why

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Speaker 7: were you the person for the job. You got to

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Speaker 7: hype yourself up. You got to be your biggest hype boy,

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Speaker 7: hype girl. You got to really be able to show people,

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Speaker 7: like when I step on the scene, this is what

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Speaker 7: I'm able to do. And you can use that through metrics,

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Speaker 7: but you also can use it through your portfolio and

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Speaker 7: more qualitative aspects. I think particularly especially for those who

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Speaker 7: work in the creator economy more or more creative industries

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Speaker 7: as well.

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Speaker 2: It's time for another quick break. We'll be right back

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Speaker 2: with Gianna Prudente and Jimmy Jackson Gatson. And we're back

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Speaker 2: with Gianna Prudente and Jimmy Jackson Gatson.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the about section, this always trips

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Speaker 3: me up personally because I'm like, how much information is

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Speaker 3: too much information? Do you go with a short bio

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Speaker 3: a long bio? What do you guys see as as

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Speaker 3: what works and what doesn't work?

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Speaker 6: I really do think like it's unique to each person,

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Speaker 6: and I think like she was saying back to the

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Speaker 6: personal branding aspect of it, when a recruiter hiring manager

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Speaker 6: sees your profile, they get to see your experience. But

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Speaker 6: the about section is really an opportunity for you to

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Speaker 6: connect the dots for them, so to share. You know,

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Speaker 6: what you do, what you're interested in, about, what you're

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Speaker 6: passionate about, why you're pursuing, what type of career, and

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Speaker 6: what experience you're bringing to the table. You can really

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Speaker 6: articulate that career story right there and begin to sell

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Speaker 6: yourself before the recruiter, even you know, has first contact

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Speaker 6: with you.

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Speaker 7: Sell yourself in the fullness of who you are. Well,

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Speaker 7: people hire you. They're not just going to get nine

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Speaker 7: to five girly Okay, They're going to get all of

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Speaker 7: you in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: What's a big mistake you see people making on LinkedIn

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Speaker 3: that may cost them opportunities?

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Speaker 6: I think your headline is an opportunity to expand on

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Speaker 6: like what job you're actively seeking. If you're actively job searching,

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Speaker 6: your headline is an opportunity to kind of add some

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Speaker 6: flavor rather than just like a job title. What's eye catching,

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Speaker 6: what's something that's unique about you and the work that

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Speaker 6: you do, what you're passionate about. I think there's ways

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Speaker 6: to sprinkle that in in your headline.

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Speaker 7: I would say, I see people get really promotional, and

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Speaker 7: that just doesn't create a good experience. I always like

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Speaker 7: to say, ask your like, do the show, don't tell method,

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Speaker 7: and really just sell the fact that you know what

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Speaker 7: you're talking about, show up as your expert of your life,

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Speaker 7: tap into different types of storytelling formats, and really, if

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Speaker 7: you position yourself as an expert, others will also follow.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to sell them on that. It will

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Speaker 7: just naturally come out in the wash.

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Speaker 3: I'm so curious if you cause you guys did an

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Speaker 3: episode on work best friends. Are you pro besties at

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Speaker 3: work or anti besties at work?

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Speaker 4: I love this comment.

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Speaker 5: I think you would know the answer.

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Speaker 7: I think that was one of the first episodes gian

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Speaker 7: and I had very contrasting a bit.

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Speaker 5: Well, Gianna, what's your thoughts?

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Speaker 6: So I am very pro work bestie and like I'm

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Speaker 6: literally in the market for friends, like totally open to it.

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Speaker 6: I think in general, a lot of ways people approach

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Speaker 6: friendships at work is based on the time you are

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Speaker 6: in your career. So when you're starting out, whether you

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Speaker 6: moved away and you're starting a new job or it's

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Speaker 6: this weird POSTCRAD transition, and a lot of us experience

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Speaker 6: loneliness during that time, so you kind of are at

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Speaker 6: work so much of your time that you look for

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Speaker 6: friendships in those spaces.

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Speaker 7: I'm always down to make a friend, like obviously, like

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Speaker 7: Jaan and I've gotten so much closer even in working

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Speaker 7: on the podcast. You just need to always know where

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Speaker 7: to place people. There are some people who are going

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Speaker 7: to become your friends at work, and they're going to

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Speaker 7: become lifelong friends, Like there are people who I've made

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Speaker 7: friends with who were in my wedding or who.

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Speaker 5: I go out with.

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Speaker 7: But then there's also a number of people between the

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Speaker 7: hours of X and Y we are cordial, but then

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Speaker 7: that's kind of where the buck stops. And then there

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Speaker 7: are some people where you have to know like where

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Speaker 7: to do it, and I think honestly it allows you

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Speaker 7: to text yourself. We also have other episodes that deal

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Speaker 7: a lot with boundary setting and like ensuring that you

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Speaker 7: set your boundaries early on so that people don't violate those.

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Speaker 7: And I think, particularly as a black and Latino a woman,

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Speaker 7: I have seen throughout my career in many ways, people

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Speaker 7: like to violate boundaries if you don't set them firm enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what you mean in terms of violating boundaries

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Speaker 1: at work? How have you experienced that?

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Speaker 7: One that Gian and I talk about a lot is

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Speaker 7: some people they like to send a slack or a

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Speaker 7: team's message after work hours. And on the one hand,

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Speaker 7: you're like, I've already said that, you know, after a

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Speaker 7: certain amount of time, I don't want to really respond.

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Speaker 7: I would like to disconnect. But then you're in the

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Speaker 7: additional pressure of, well, this is an executive, so like,

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Speaker 7: how do I, you know, navigate that conversation. Other boundaries

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Speaker 7: can just be you know, invisible labor that we you know,

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Speaker 7: we've constantly seen and being discussed, particularly when it comes

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Speaker 7: to marginalized communities, and how do you stand up for yourself.

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Speaker 7: The more we can learn how to respect each other's

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Speaker 7: boundaries and how we can learn how to articulate them,

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Speaker 7: particularly when we first enter the workforce, it'll be great.

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Speaker 7: I did not set boundaries when I first started working.

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Speaker 7: I couldn't, or at least I felt I couldn't. My

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Speaker 7: mom always told me, you are a black girl, You're

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Speaker 7: gonna have to work two three times harder than everybody

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Speaker 7: else to get half as much as what they got.

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Speaker 7: You don't get the privilege of saying no. And the

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Speaker 7: sad reality is that's what happens to so many people,

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Speaker 7: right And I mean this supersedes outside of race. This

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Speaker 7: happens to women all the time. This happens to people

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Speaker 7: from just different marginalized communities. And I would just push

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Speaker 7: back on that by saying, what, regardless of what the

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Speaker 7: statistics show, regardless of the challenges that you will face,

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Speaker 7: you have to come home to yourself every day.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, coming home to yourself. I love the sound of that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do you think is the biggest misconception that people

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Speaker 2: have about gen Z.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of rhetoric around gen Z being lazy

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Speaker 6: at work. Even on a more granular level, it's gen

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Speaker 6: Z wants to cut corners. This is the narrative that

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Speaker 6: has been percolated for some time. And I think what

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Speaker 6: happens when it comes to this idea of gen Z

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Speaker 6: cutting corners. We're entering the workforce at a time where

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Speaker 6: we're finding more efficient and effective ways of doing things.

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Speaker 6: Like those traditional ways of working, we could probably do

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Speaker 6: things a little bit differently, and so the way that

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Speaker 6: we'll get from point A to point B in our

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Speaker 6: careers will likely look different than our colleagues who came

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Speaker 6: before us. But I don't think that's cutting a corner.

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Speaker 6: It's just finding a more efficient way to do something.

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Speaker 6: So hopefully people can embrace that and be willing to

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Speaker 6: learn from our ways of working.

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Speaker 4: And I'll be the first to admit we have a

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Speaker 4: lot to learn too.

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Speaker 6: So many people I know who are gen Z and

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Speaker 6: the data supports this, are hustling. Nearly the majority of

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Speaker 6: gen zs have a side hustle, whether they're pursuing a

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Speaker 6: passion project or working multiple jobs to make ends meet.

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Speaker 6: We're not expecting to get a hundred fulfillment out of

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Speaker 6: our nine to five jobs. So at five o'clock, I

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Speaker 6: got to go to my next get kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm dying to know this.

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Speaker 3: What is the single best piece of career advice each

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Speaker 3: of you has received. Wow, I know I'll share one

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Speaker 3: of mine if it gets the wheels turning. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: like a few that come to my mind, but one

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Speaker 3: is one of my mentors, Steve Carlston said to me,

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Speaker 3: if you don't build roots when you're young, you'll tip

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Speaker 3: over when you're older. Oh, and you so a lot

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Speaker 3: of times that hard work and sacrifice when you're young

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Speaker 3: is so required in order to feel the fruits of

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Speaker 3: your labor and have some sturdiness later in life.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really big one.

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Speaker 7: And I yeah that because now I'm just thinking of

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Speaker 7: myself as a tree and I can't get swayed if

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Speaker 7: I have my roots. Yes, exactly, that's a prophetic word.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 7: I would say you are the prize. Always remember that

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Speaker 7: you are the prize.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that. There's so much crossover between dating and LinkedIn.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love it Today's favor and I love you here.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go in.

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Speaker 5: Truly you are.

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Speaker 7: And I think that, particularly when you're starting out, do

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Speaker 7: you think the prize is getting the job or getting

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Speaker 7: the money, or getting the accolades. And don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 7: all those things are great, but at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day. You have to remember you also offer something.

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Speaker 7: This is an exchange of goods and services. You offer

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Speaker 7: them something unique. And if you always remember that, I

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Speaker 7: do believe you will know how to enforce your boundaries.

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Speaker 7: You will know when to walk away when it is

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Speaker 7: no longer serving you.

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Speaker 5: You are it. So yeah, don't let anybody ever convince

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Speaker 5: you otherwise.

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Speaker 1: I love that one.

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Speaker 6: I think mine is something I've learned from Jimmay, honestly,

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Speaker 6: which is that you are in control of your career.

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Speaker 6: And it's something that I've been sitting with a lot lately.

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Speaker 6: I started my career three years ago, I was like,

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Speaker 6: I will do whatever to get the job. I will

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Speaker 6: not negotiate because I don't want to lose this offer

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Speaker 6: when I'm in that first few days or weeks of

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Speaker 6: a new role. But Jimmy has really reminded me that

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Speaker 6: you have agency in your careers. We are all bringing

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Speaker 6: so much more experience and value to the table than

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Speaker 6: we actually realize, which is why I'm so passionate about

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Speaker 6: helping people starting out really realize the experience they have,

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Speaker 6: even if it's not considered traditional work experience, and being

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Speaker 6: able to articulate that so you feel confident in those interviews,

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Speaker 6: in those networking calls.

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Speaker 1: I agree, you're making me think of something existential.

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Speaker 4: I love Heart's.

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Speaker 3: Sarious well, I love etymology. And the word conspire gets

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Speaker 3: sort of like a bad rap. It has like a

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Speaker 3: negative connotation, like you're plotting or conspiring to do something.

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Speaker 3: But the Latin root really means to breathe together, con

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Speaker 3: to inspire to breathe. And I think of all relationships

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Speaker 3: work or otherwise as this two way street you're conspiring together.

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Speaker 3: Both of you spoke to that in that it's really

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Speaker 3: a two way street and you're both bringing value and

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Speaker 3: learning from one another. It's some thing I did not

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Speaker 3: do as a millennial entering the workforce.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that gen Z is doing that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and also just a plug like, we have an

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Speaker 7: amazing episode all around negotiating, and I think what was

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Speaker 7: one of the biggest eye openers was that negotiating is

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Speaker 7: just a conversation. So whether it's negotiating your job or

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Speaker 7: your responsibilities, start to look at that as like a

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Speaker 7: conversation that you're just having with another human being. And

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Speaker 7: when you really approach you from that, it takes so

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Speaker 7: much pressure off of you because I do think that

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Speaker 7: you're looking at more as a collaboration and a partnership.

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Speaker 7: This is really a two way street. So yeah, I'd

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Speaker 7: really embraced that a lot more in my life.

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Speaker 3: That's so beautiful, Jimmy, I agree, you're conspiring.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you both so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. It's so nice to meet both of you.

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Speaker 5: You as well, This was so fun.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having us.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: Gianna Brudente and Jimmy Jackson Gadson are the hosts of

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Speaker 2: LinkedIn's podcast Let's Talk Offline.

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