1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace bombshell in the courtroom. A 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: man just found guilty of murdering and dismembering a beautiful 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: teen girl saw Dave Robinson after their first date in Milwaukee. 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. A Milwaukee man just 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: found guilty of murdering and dismembering a teen girl college 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: student the night of their first date. Maxwell Anderson charged 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: with first degree intentional homicide. Grew up with a silver 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: spoon in his mouth. Now guilty of intentional homicide, dismembering 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: a corpse, arson high, and hiding a corpse in connection 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: with the death of this incredibly beautiful young girl. The 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: jury convicts on all four counts we learned during the trial. 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Investigators believe Anderson murdered Sowday on their very first date, 14 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: dismembered her, and spread her remains all around Milwaukee County. 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Saday last seen alive in Anderson's home. What more do 16 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: we know about the facts. 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Shade's right leg, left foot, torso, and one of her 18 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: arms were found scattered around Milwaukee more than a month 19 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: after her death. A second arm washed up on a 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: Wakegan Illinois Beach. It has now been confirmed as Shade's 21 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: through DNA testing. Shade's head and right leg are still missing, 22 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: preventing her family from laying her to rest. 23 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: They can't even have a funeral because they don't have 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: all of their daughter. We learn that LA law enforcement 25 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: is honing in on dating apps. I mean, if dating 26 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: apps had anything to do with this teen girl's murder 27 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and dismemberment, then they need to be outlawed. I don't 28 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: like saying that, but how many cases do we hear 29 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: about where women, young ladies, teen girls like shardago on 30 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: a date engineered by a dating app and. 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: They're never seen alive again. 32 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: Joining me right now is a very special guest, a 33 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: woman I now consider a friend. 34 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: Sheena Scarborough. This is shaw Dai's mother. 35 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: How do you keep putting one foot in front of 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the other? 37 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this girl. 38 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Was everything, so smart, had her own little apartment that 39 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: she paid for by herself, had her own little car, 40 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: was going to college classes, the whole thing. 41 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: Oh yes, Nancy, this is so challenging daily I don't 42 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: know how to get I'm walking and Shutty's spirit and 43 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: in her grace, I am her voice I have to 44 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: speak an advocate through her. 45 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 5: For others. 46 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: This is not. 47 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 5: Something that just like pulled up. It happened. I don't know. 48 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 6: This is a waking nightmare daily every day I wake up. 49 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 6: I can't believe what is taking place. I am Shaddy 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 6: Robinson's mother. This is very ongoingly tragic. My baby was 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 6: my everything. She's my light, She's my star. She was 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 6: so amazingly beautiful. Like you stated, she was so independent, 53 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 6: so sufficient. She had her whole life ahead of her. 54 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: She worked two jobs. She was dedicated, she was strong. 55 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 6: Two full time jobs the pizza shuttle. She was ranked 56 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 6: up to manage her. She started working in the tenth grade, 57 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: was ongoing, getting promoted dollar raises every six months, so 58 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: they wanted her to be manager. She worked at the 59 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 6: Wisconsin Club part time, the Wisconsin Country Club. She got 60 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 6: her little sister a job there. That was her little 61 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 6: sister's first job. This has been traumatic and ongoing. She 62 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 6: was she was. 63 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: Scheduled. She did receive her Associate of Ours degree in May. Nancy. 64 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 5: Everything has been back to back since. 65 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: The last time I seen you from the. 66 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: Maxwell Anderson that hard and hurt my baby. 67 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 6: I want that individual and this family held fully accountable. 68 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: This is unacceptable behavior. 69 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Miss Tarborough. I'm seeing you and you have deafinite You're 70 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: wasting away. You just I can look at you and 71 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: you have lost so much weight. You're wasting away. How 72 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: are you managing to go forward? 73 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 6: I can't sleep, Nancy, I can't eat. 74 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 5: I'm doing ongoing, you know, therapy along with my youngest daughter. 75 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 7: I have. 76 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 5: Symptoms, physical symptoms. 77 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 6: I don't mean to get in death, but I don't 78 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 6: share this a lot, but since this has happened, I'm 79 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 6: very empathic and I've always been like this. I can 80 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 6: literally feel the symptoms of what this person did to 81 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 6: my daughter. I literally don't move this physically. It's a 82 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 6: lot of different layers of things going on with my 83 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 6: physic wealth. I can't describe it, but I don't know. 84 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 6: Nancy is through the phase. It is very challenging. 85 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: Guys joining me in addition to Miss Sheeniscarborough, who is 86 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: Shawde's mother, who has vowed to be her daughter's voice 87 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: throughout all of this. We are still on the search 88 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: for parts of Shade's body, but we are learning that 89 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: police are focusing now on various dating apps as to 90 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: how this teen girl met up with a much much 91 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: older man. 92 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: The defendant. His dad highly highly successful. 93 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: His dad has a big local business who employed him 94 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: briefly before he was let go. Maxwell Anderson, thirty three 95 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: years old. 96 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what he. 97 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Said to her on this dating app to make her 98 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: think that it was okay to go with him. But 99 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: we're not only learning about a potential dating app connection, 100 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: but we're also learning about an alleged CI, a confidential 101 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: informant that claims this guy, Maxwell Anderson, told him the 102 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: CI that he was going to lure Shade, take her 103 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: to the basement, shoot. 104 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: Her, and dismember her. 105 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Now, who the hey knows something like that and does 106 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: nothing But regarding these newly released warrants, listen. 107 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 8: Eight unsealed warrants are giving new insights into the investigation 108 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 8: of Shade Robinson's murder. Newly released surveillance images show Shade 109 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 8: meeting Anderson at the Twisted Fishermen for their date. The 110 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 8: warrants also revealed police or reviewing employment records and surveillance 111 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 8: from Victor's nightclub. Anderson reportedly worked at Victory's, a club 112 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 8: that one of shaw Day's co workers as they frequented. 113 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 8: Investigators are trying to get a determine how Shawday met Anderson. 114 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Joining US now investigative reporter and anchor at Fox six Milwaukee, Aaron. 115 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: Mabon Aarin, thank you for being with us. 116 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: I've got so much evidence is being uncovered right now, 117 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: specifically as it relates to what we've discovered in those 118 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: just unsealed search warrants. 119 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: What have you learned, well. 120 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 9: I think the search warrants, it's very clear, Nancy. What 121 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 9: the search warrants say is that this was a planned 122 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 9: situation according to this informant who came out days after 123 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 9: all this kind of was revealed. This person came out 124 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 9: afterwards and let investigators know that they went inside Maxwell 125 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 9: Anderson's home. They saw three saws in there, they saw 126 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 9: tarp in there too, and they had information that this 127 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 9: was going to happen. And what's really fascinating, Nancy, is 128 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 9: then nothing came out until after the death. What a 129 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 9: lot of people find really chilling in these unsealed search 130 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 9: warrants too. So you know a lot of people that 131 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 9: we talked. 132 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: About, Wait a minute, let me understand something. Aaron Mayban 133 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: joining US FO six Milwaukee. So the sea I the 134 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: friend of the defendant, Maxwell Anderson goes into Anderson's home 135 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: and he sees all this before shaw Day is murdered. 136 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 9: That's what the search warrens say, that this was seen 137 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 9: before Shade was murdered, and this CI had information never 138 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 9: came forward. Shadday Robinson goes missing. Maxwell Anderson is a 139 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 9: prime suspect, and then the CI informs police about what 140 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 9: they allegedly saw inside of that home. 141 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, you're absolutely correct, Aaron Mayban listen. 142 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 10: Maxwell Anderson had a sex dungeon in the basement of 143 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 10: his West Milwaukee home. According to a law enforcement source. 144 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 10: Cops found a sex sling restraints in handcuffs. A close 145 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 10: friend of Anderson said that on a visit to Anderson's 146 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 10: home last year, he noticed a large hole in the 147 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 10: ground that was about five feet long by six foot deep. 148 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 10: Anderson said he was working on an underground basement, despite 149 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 10: having a large basement in the home already. Neighbors say 150 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 10: the basement in the home had small windows that were 151 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 10: always covered so you could not see inside. 152 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,359 Speaker 3: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 153 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: In the Last Days Guilty, A spoiled brat Milwaukee man 154 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: fed his whole life with a silver spoon guilty convicted 155 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: in the brutal murder and dismemberment of a gorgeous, brilliant 156 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: young teen girl, college student, Saudey Robinson. What happened? This 157 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: so called friend and ci confidental informant knew that all 158 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: of this was going to happen. Based on what you're 159 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: learning from the warrants, Aaron Maybin had Shahday, a teen girl, 160 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: already been targeted as the victim. 161 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 9: You know what the warrant looks like, Nancy, is that 162 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 9: he planned on killing Shade Robinson according to this search warrant. 163 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 9: And again, Maxwell Anderson has not said anything. Attorney not 164 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 9: saying a thing either, And that's just you know, what 165 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 9: we're reading in here is some pretty chilling stuff. But 166 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 9: what's not clear, Nancy, is why exactly she was picked out, 167 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 9: why exactly she was targeted, And that's what family is 168 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 9: likely wanting to know too. 169 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So from what I'm understanding, he actually targeted Shahday specifically. 170 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: He wasn't going to lure. 171 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: A woman, any woman to his home, take her down 172 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the stairs into the basement, murder and just remember her. 173 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: It was shahdaycifically that he wanted. 174 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 11: Listen, a friend of Anderson's is now working with law 175 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 11: enforcement as a confidential informant. The CI tells investigators in 176 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 11: early March, Anderson spoke of a plan to lure Schande 177 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 11: Robinson to his home, then forced her into the basement 178 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 11: at gunpoint, where he would shoot her, then dismember her 179 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 11: body and scatter her remains. The CI says Anderson showed 180 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 11: in the basement where Anderson had taped plastic paint protectors 181 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 11: to the walls and floor. The CI says there were 182 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 11: three saws in the preffed basement. 183 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: Brian Fitzgibbons help me. 184 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons, director of Operations for USPA Nationwide Security, who 185 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: leads a team of investigators often looking for missing people. Brian, 186 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: did you hear what? A reporter with Crime Online just 187 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: stated that the CI talk about a day light and 188 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: a dollar short. The friend of Anderson's spoke of Anderson's 189 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: plan to lure shah Day specifically, not. 190 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: Just I'm going to get a woman and I'm going 191 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: to do X Y and Z. It was Shahday. 192 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: He wonted then to quote force her into the basement 193 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: at gunpoint, where he would shooting and dismember her and 194 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: scatter the remains, and he had prepped it like. 195 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: A spider with a fly. 196 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Anderson tape plastic paint protectors to the walls and floor. 197 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: What about it, Nancy? 198 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 12: This speaks to the diabolical premeditation that took place here, Okay. 199 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 12: And it also speaks to the circles that Anderson was 200 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 12: running in the fact that, nearly a month before Shade 201 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 12: went missing, this confidential informant knew specifically about Anderson's plans, 202 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 12: specifically with her. 203 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 204 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 12: So aside from the evidentiary value of this confidential informants 205 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 12: witness statement, you need to it adds a tremendous amount 206 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 12: of color to the life that Maxwell Anderson was leading. 207 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 208 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: See you know what, Fitz Gibbons, you're talking in your 209 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: USPA Nationwide Security Code all right, speak, regular people talk. 210 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 211 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: What did you just say about the color in which 212 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: his environment was painted? 213 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: What are you saying? I think what you're saying. 214 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Let me be so bold as to climb out on 215 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: a limitar that Look at the people he's consorting with, 216 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: people that you say, Hey, I'm going to get this girl, 217 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: this teen girl, shy date. 218 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: She's gorgeous, she's brilliant. 219 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to get her and lure her into my 220 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: basement at gunpoint, force her down there. I'm going to 221 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: kill her, and then I'm going to dismember her and 222 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: leave her body parts around town for people to find. 223 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: And this guy does nothing. 224 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Man, I'd have been on my cell phone as soon 225 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: as I got clear of that house. 226 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying to Gibbon? Speak English? To me, man, 227 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: that is exactly what I'm saying. 228 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 12: So March fifth, this conversation with the confidential informant and 229 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 12: Anderson takes place, and he doesn't come forward for well 230 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 12: over a month, and still thirteen days after Shade was missing. 231 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 12: You know, this speaks clearly to the type of people 232 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 12: that Anderson was associating with. 233 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: But why her? 234 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Why did he target this tane girl, this beautiful girl. 235 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: Why Shawdah, I'm come here today. 236 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 13: This is the hardest thing I would ever have to 237 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 13: do in my life to speak Shaddy's voice. Shadai was 238 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 13: a beautiful soul. She was an amazing girl. Nancy, everything 239 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 13: spoke is exactly what my daughter exerted. I couldn't have 240 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 13: asked for any better daughter. There was things my daughter 241 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 13: did that medi adults not even able, so accomplished in 242 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 13: their life times the son of a so fun daughter 243 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 13: from me. 244 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: That's shaw Dai's mother, Sheena Scarborough. She's with us. 245 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Now, Miss Scarborough, thank you for speaking out. I mean 246 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: from when we spoke then to now, I was looking 247 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: at you on camera before we started our program and 248 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: when you pull your hair back, I. 249 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: Could just see how much weight you have lost. 250 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: And now when we are what we're learning from these 251 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: search warrants that he didn't just plan to pick any 252 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: woman to murder. 253 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: He targeted shah Day. 254 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 6: Why Nancy, I I don't know why my daughter was 255 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 6: chosen to be the voice to speak for individuals in 256 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 6: our community in Milwaukee is very concerning. Milwaukee is a 257 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 6: well known place for other serial killers known as you 258 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 6: know Dahmer and other type of situations. I feel very 259 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 6: unsafe in Milwaukee right now. I'm concerned. As you stated, 260 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: your your babies just started school. My baby, her youngest 261 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 6: sister just started school as well. 262 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 5: Today. 263 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 6: I'm concerned for my baby, my youngest. It's a filling, 264 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 6: it's an edge, anxiety, anxious, constant feeling knowing that there 265 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 6: are serial killers in our community. 266 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 5: This could have been any one of our daughters. 267 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 6: I don't know why God selected us to be the 268 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 6: voice to speak for the other missing and murdered individuals 269 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 6: in our community. 270 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: Doctor Bethony Marshall uh renown Psycho Allen's joining us out 271 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: of l A. 272 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Author of the book deal Breaker. You can see her 273 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: also on Peacock Now. Doctor Bethany Marshall at doctor Bethanymarshall 274 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: dot com Doctor Bethany Why Shadai. I'm going to get 275 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: into the whole dating app thing in just a moment, because. 276 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: This ci, this friend is blowing me away. 277 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: He goes to the perps time who is a rich, 278 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: spoiled brat suspect. He's had a silver spoon in his mouth. 279 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: It's day one. But even if Daddy didn't keep him 280 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: at the office, he had to let him go. I 281 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: can only imagine this. Oh, I can't even stand to 282 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: look at him. Why Shadai? Why did he have to 283 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: pick a teen girl? 284 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 5: I have a theory about why shut A. 285 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 7: Shud Ay is gorgeous, young, successful, She already has her AA, 286 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 7: two jobs, her own apartment. She is at the top 287 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 7: of the world, and compare her to this loser who 288 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 7: can't even hold a job in his own father's company. 289 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 7: I bet he was envious of her, kind of like 290 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 7: in cells where they want to be with the woman, 291 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 7: they envy the woman. They think the woman is above them, 292 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 7: but they want to take the woman down. So there's 293 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 7: destructive envy, there's destructive hatred. I bet he had a 294 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 7: lot of targets, but she just rose to the top 295 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 7: in terms of his selection. And this CI, Nancy, I 296 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 7: bet we're going to learn that Maxwell Anderson was a 297 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 7: part of some underground either drug community or sex community. 298 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 7: And there are more people that knew than just the CI. 299 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 7: He wasn't just bringing to one person. He was either 300 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: a part of a BDSM community, a swinger's community, some 301 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: community with some perversion like pedophilia or something that they 302 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 7: all held in common. 303 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot yes kind of athlete. 304 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: Before I speculate or you laid me down the garden 305 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: path about underground sex clubs, can I talk about what 306 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I absolutely know because I can't put your speculation no 307 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: offense in front of a jury. I care about probative facts. 308 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: If I can't get him into evidence, they don't exist 309 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: to me. But what I can get into evidence is 310 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: what I have discovered of these search warrants. 311 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to Aaron Maybon on that. 312 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Regarding dating apps that he was using and how shaw 313 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Day ends up dead and it's not the first time 314 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: this has happened. 315 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 3: Listen. 316 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 11: Sidney Loof agrees to meet her tender date Audrey again 317 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 11: tomorrow night, sharing with friends how excited she is. A 318 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 11: man is driving when Audrey picks Sydney up, but Sydney 319 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 11: still gets in the car. The next day, Sidney misses 320 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 11: work and isn't answering her phone. Sidney's friend finds Audrey 321 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 11: on tender who police identify as Bailey Boswell. A month later, 322 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 11: parts of Sydney's dismembered body are found discarded in thirty 323 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 11: gallon trash bags trail amidst accidentally strangling Sidney while forcing 324 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 11: her to participate in a porn film. 325 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: I met her on Tuesday. 326 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 14: I want to take her home, and she asked me 327 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 14: to drop her off at a friend's house, so I 328 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 14: did so. I gave her my number. We were planning 329 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 14: to go to the casino that weekend. I mean, I 330 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 14: haven't heard from her since. 331 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 11: Footage from inside the unfinished basement that police have called 332 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 11: a sex dungeon shows it's in disarray. A large hole 333 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 11: has been dug in the concrete floor. A drain in 334 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 11: the floor is stuff with towels. The drain cover marked 335 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 11: with evidence numbers. A door without a handle leads to 336 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 11: a dark closet, and there are several tables, a chair 337 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 11: and exercise equipment. The mattress of a queen bed frame 338 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 11: is flipped on its side and betting is tossed over 339 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 11: a table in the corner of the room. 340 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Sex dungeon and the defendant's basement. He was digging another 341 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: dungeon beneath that. The thought of this beautiful girl, Shawde 342 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Robinson dying here, being dismembered here, her last moments spent 343 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: in the basement of a spoiled brat. Thirty three year 344 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: old Maxwell Anderson a grim discover when Saide Robinson's arm 345 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: was found at Waukegan Beach, her body dismembered and placed 346 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: in parks around the area for children to find. What 347 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: a freak her twenty twenty civic found torched the next day, 348 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: and video showed the perp the spoiled brat Anderson leaving 349 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: the scene where the burned car was found. He was 350 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: arrested two days later at a traffic stop. Believe it 351 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: or not, his lawyer, Tony Cotton, with a straight face, 352 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: argued during the trial that no DNA links Anderson to 353 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: the crimes. Wow, I wonder why could it be because 354 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: he torched her car. Cotton did not respond to request 355 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: seeking comment after the verdict. Now we know the perp, 356 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Anderson is facing a mandatory life sentence when he comes 357 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: up for sentencing, But based on what I know, that's 358 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: too good for him. These facts are heinous with me, 359 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: as Shade's mother, Sheena Scarborough. I don't know if you 360 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: have seen the footage of that basement. It's filthy, it's 361 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: dug up, it's covered in debris. And this. 362 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: Defendant picked shah Day out of all the women in 363 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: the area. 364 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: To lure her down to that filthy basement to murder her. 365 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: I just don't understand why her. Have you seen that basement? 366 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 6: It discusses me, Nancy, my daughter, to not deserve this. 367 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: This is unsurrell This is freaking unsurreal. Like, I don't 368 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: know how we were placed in this nightmare. 369 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 6: By this demon, okay demon, and I don't want to 370 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: go there but there's no other terminology for individuals that 371 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 6: move like this, sociopaths, psycho you know, past like type energy. 372 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 5: Again, like I. 373 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: Speaking upon what the individual stated earlier, My daughter was 374 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: very highly achievable successful. 375 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 5: I don't know what the motive would have been. 376 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: I don't know how sociopaths, the cycle paths think like 377 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: this is unsurreal, but this is very concerning for the 378 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 6: Milwaukee community. All individuals and parents in the community needs 379 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 6: to be concerned about your kids right be concerned where 380 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: they're at. 381 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: Shaddy's voice will be. 382 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 6: Heard, and I'm speaking out for all of the other 383 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 6: missing individuals, not just the black and roaln but the 384 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 6: missing individuals there are a young man, there are other 385 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: individuals of all college. We represent all missing individuals that 386 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 6: have not been found. 387 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Aaron may been joining me now, investigative reporter and anchor 388 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: Fox six in Milwaukee. 389 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: I want to talk. 390 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: About how and figure out how he identified Shade. And 391 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure probatively speaking, why this matters so 392 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: much to me that he picked her out. And I'm 393 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: thinking he left a trail digitally on his computer, on 394 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: his laptop, on his cell phone. 395 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: But Victor's bar plays a role in this, and. 396 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Remind me to circle back because I think there's a 397 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: similar transaction a woman that claims she went on a 398 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: date with him and believes that he drugged her or 399 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: put something in her drink. 400 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: Okay, just to start with that, because. 401 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm wondering and I'm going to go to medical examiner 402 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: doctor Kimball Crown's on whether we can determine anything like 403 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: that was in shay Day's system, even though we don't 404 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: have all of her body yet. 405 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: But I think digitally and forensically, it's very important to. 406 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: Prove how the two connected, not just a matter of 407 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: my own curiosity why pick her, but probatively, what can 408 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: I tell. 409 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: A jury, Aaron? What am I going to learn digitally? 410 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: What footprint did he lead as to how he stalked her? 411 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: And what part did Victor's Bar play in this? Did 412 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: he work at Victor's Bar? 413 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, we know that he did work at Victor's Bar, 414 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 9: and that's what we kind of knew from the jump 415 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 9: that he was this guy who worked at different bars, 416 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 9: different restaurants around the area, and Victors was one of 417 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 9: those places. It's not clear exactly when exactly Shade Robinson 418 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 9: came into contact with Maxwell Anderson at Victors. But that 419 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 9: was part of the story really early on, Nancy, that 420 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 9: he was this bartender, this bouncer at Victors and kind 421 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 9: of well known in that area, in that vicinity too. 422 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 9: And it could have been a place, according to investigators, 423 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 9: where he met girls where he interacted with them too. 424 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 9: So that's kind of where police are honing in on things. 425 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 9: And not only Victors Bar, but and you touched on 426 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 9: this earlier. Dating apps are playing a role in all 427 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 9: this too. In this digital footprint. According to just a 428 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 9: search warrant, he had at least four dating apps on 429 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 9: his phone. You know, not too unpopular for someone in 430 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 9: their twenties and thirties, Nancy, because you know the game 431 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 9: has changed. People are meeting in person, but they're also 432 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 9: meeting on dating apps. 433 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: You're right. 434 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security, Brian, how many cases? 435 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: And I've told a Minia jury this People covet that 436 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: which they see, Okay, like David and Mathsheba. For Pete's sake, 437 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: he looks off as rufin there she is, so he 438 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: has her husband murdered. 439 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: It's as old as the story can be. 440 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: And here there he is working in that bar, got 441 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: fired from his daddy's business, and he sees shaw Day 442 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: and she is his target. 443 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: And he tells his friend, I'm going to get her, 444 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: not like I'm gonna. 445 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Woo her and I'm going to treat her like a 446 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: queen and you know one day will be a thing. 447 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm going to get her. I'm going to 448 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: lure her right here to this house. I'm gonna take 449 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: her down to that base, and I'm going to kill her. 450 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: Now that's what I think happened. How can I prove it? 451 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: How can I prove it? 452 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: Fitz Gibbons. 453 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 12: I think most likely their first interaction was at Victor's. 454 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 12: And then we're hopeful that investigators, through these dating apps, 455 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 12: through these profiles are going to find that probative evidence 456 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 12: that you're looking for to prove Anderson's targeting. Okay, just 457 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 12: to watch his targeting and see it unfold digitally. 458 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 15: Cops are also honing in on Anderson's dating app activity. 459 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 15: A folder in Anderson's home labeled dating contained handwritten logins 460 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 15: to bumble, hinge, OkCupid, and Tender. Those notes also contained 461 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 15: women's names and information about them. A woman who went 462 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 15: on a date with Anderson in February, is convinced he 463 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 15: drugged her drink. 464 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: Is there a similar transaction? 465 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: Are there other women out there that interacted with this guy, 466 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Maxwell Anderson that lived to tell the tale, or are 467 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: there other women who became his murder victims. 468 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: We're trying to piece together everything we know. 469 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Doctor Kendall Crown's renowned chief medical examiner, 470 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: Terrence County, Lecturer at the esteemed Burnett School of Medicine 471 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: at TCU, Texas Christian University, Doctor Kendall Crown. 472 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us and let me hit 473 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 3: you right off the top. 474 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Have you ever analyzed a dismemberment case? 475 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 16: Yes, over the years, I've analyzed several dismemberment cases in 476 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 16: my career. 477 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: How will we be able to tell whether these injuries 478 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: to Shade happened pre mortem or after death post mortem? 479 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: So there's a couple of ways to tell. 480 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 16: Usually, when someone is alive and they're shot or stabbed, 481 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 16: they will be hemorrhage into the tissues surrounding the injuries, 482 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 16: and after the heart stops beating these injuries, these tissues 483 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 16: won't have the hemorrhage in them. If you cause further damage. 484 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 16: So if you're cutting a limb off or something like that, 485 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 16: the cut area will be bloodless. So that's one way 486 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 16: you can tell it. The only problem is is when 487 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 16: those limbs get thrown into water or get rained on 488 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 16: something like that, the water can actually wash the blood 489 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 16: out of the tissues, so it will make it kind 490 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 16: of hard to tell if it had in premortem or 491 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 16: post mortem. But the one main thing is is you 492 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 16: can look for hemorrhage. 493 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: I got to understand what you just said, doctor Kendall Crowns. 494 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: You said to. 495 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Tell if the injuries, the dismemberment occurred before death or 496 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: after death, that you would look for hemorrhaging at the 497 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: sight of the sever where the limb was cut, where 498 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: the leg was cut off. Now what does that mean 499 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: to correct? Did at that point did she bleed? She 500 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: did not bleed. It was post mortem after death because 501 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: the heart was no longer pumping. 502 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Is that what you just said? 503 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct. 504 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Okay. 505 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: Then you said if the body parts, which is a 506 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: leg or an arm, had been in water. 507 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: Or rained upon, it would destroy that evidence. 508 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: In other words, you won't be able to see even 509 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: under a microscope if there had been hemorrhaging. In other words, bleeding. 510 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: Is that what you just. 511 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 16: Said, Yes, that's correct, will wash out the blood out 512 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 16: of the tissues as it's in them. Is it's in 513 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 16: a watery environment for a long period of time. 514 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bob Sheell verdict in the courtroom. 515 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: A spoiled brat convicted in the brutal murder and dismembering 516 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: of a teen college student, Saude Robinson. 517 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 17: Many of these body parts of this gorgeous girl were 518 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 17: left out in the open, Aaron Mabon very quickly, investigator 519 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 17: reporter Fox six Milwaukee. 520 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: Her body parts of this girl were left all over town. 521 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 3: And that was his plan. 522 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: He told the CEI his friend, Like the devil can 523 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: have a friend. He tells his friend that he's going 524 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: to lure her, take her down into the basement ie 525 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: sex dungeon looks like a filthy basement, and they kill 526 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: her and then dismember her and leave her body parts 527 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: all over town. 528 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: That was his original plan. Aaron Mabon, isn't that true? 529 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 9: And Nancy, when you look at the map that we're 530 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 9: looking at right now, that's something because you have to 531 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 9: realize that those body parts were left or other people 532 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 9: to find. So people walking on the beach and they 533 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 9: just find a severed arm. They're walking through their neighborhood 534 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 9: near a playground, Nancy, and they are finding body parts too. 535 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, according to. 536 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 9: The CI, that was a goal to dismember the body, 537 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 9: sprinkle it throughout town. We know from police that there's 538 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 9: surveillance evidence of him on different bus routes him all 539 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 9: over town. And they have piece it together like this 540 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 9: right here with the backpack. They piece it together that 541 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 9: he was just dumping body parts all over the place. 542 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 9: One part even left the state of Wisconsin. It went 543 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 9: to Illinois. It washed down the shore to Illinois where 544 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 9: someone else found that body part. 545 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: Laban, Laban, making my stomach physically hurt right now, actually 546 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: making my stomach hurt. 547 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: Doctor hold on, doctor Kendall Crowns, because I. 548 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: Got to talk to you about how difficult it is 549 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: to actually dismember someone, and how I'm telling you this 550 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: ain't this guy's first time at the rodeo, all right, 551 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: because he planned this whole thing out. Hold doctor Crowns, 552 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, you gotta help me right now, because 553 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: this was his plan all along to get this girl, 554 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: not any girl, shah day as I said, the jewel 555 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: in the crown, the gorgeous girl sitting at his bar 556 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: at Victor's. He gets, sir and all along. He told 557 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: his friend up front he's going to get her, lure her, 558 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: take her in the basement at gunpoint, kill her, and 559 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: dismember her and put her body parts all over town. 560 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: What is that? 561 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: Why would you put this girl's body parts where other 562 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: people can find them. 563 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 7: You know what's interesting, Nancy is he doesn't seem to 564 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 7: be scattering her remains in order to not be ided. 565 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 7: He's scattering them because he wants to have power over 566 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 7: the community. He wants to terrify and terrorize everybody. 567 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: Big guys, I don't even know what you're saying. He 568 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: wanted to have power over the community, terrify the community. 569 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, tell you right now, that's not what happened. But 570 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: I know he didn't do this to have power. 571 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: Over the community. I've never heard anything like that, but 572 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: this reminds me a freak. He is a devil straight 573 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: from hell, That's. 574 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Why he did it. But there's got to be most killers, Bethany. 575 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: They want to hide the body. They bury it, they 576 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: put it in the ocean, they weighed it down with 577 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: smit Brooks like Scott Peterson did Lacy. This guy left 578 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: her remains in public parks for children to find. 579 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: Now shrink that focus focus well, I. 580 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 7: Think somehow that was sexually exciting to him, just like 581 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 7: sexual sadism. You and I often talk about where the 582 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 7: perpetrator inflicts cruelty in order to increase sexual arousal, that 583 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 7: this is just prolonging the crime, and it's sort of 584 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 7: exciting to scatter these parts all over the community and 585 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 7: to imagine what their reactions will be. This is a 586 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 7: little guy who can't get a job at his own 587 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 7: father's store. He's small in life, he's small and stature, 588 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 7: he's small psychologically, and this is the only way he 589 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 7: can get excitement. Is this form of thrill seeking. It 590 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 7: actually reminds me Nancy who free I. 591 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 3: Got to go to Miss Garborough, Miss Garborough. 592 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: Just the thought of this devil after what he did 593 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: to Shah Day then taking her body part and lee 594 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: what on a kid's slide at the playground and somehow 595 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: enjoying that. I don't understand how anybody can be so 596 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: evil And he's not crazy. 597 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 3: He's not crazy, he's sane. 598 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 5: It's a sex son of a I'm sorry, excuse my language. 599 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 6: I can that this is I don't even know how 600 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 6: I'm present to be able to be here and discuss 601 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 6: these things with you. But again, my community needs to 602 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 6: be aware and they need to know what's going on. 603 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 6: They need to be watching out for their kids. Look 604 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 6: what type of individual justice? Why would you harm my baby? 605 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 6: She hurt nobody. She was angelic, She put out good energy, 606 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 6: She helped others. He was there for the community. She 607 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 6: was there for the elders, the young people, her peers. 608 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 6: She was constantly giving back. There is something deeper into this, 609 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 6: but the truth is going to be told. 610 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 5: We are worthy for a jury, the trial dury. I 611 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 5: want justice for Shutte. I want the truth to be told. 612 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: Now we are learning this spoiled Bratt Maxwell Anderson, aged 613 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: thirty three, working part time and to get pick up 614 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: a job, turned his cell phone off. 615 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: Wow. 616 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: Sounds a lot like Brian Koberger at the same time 617 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: Shai Day was murdered. Let me go very quickly to 618 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: doctor Kendall Crowns before I get off on the cell phone. 619 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: And what it means that coincidentally, he turned his phone 620 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: off at the exact time Shaide was killed. Doctor Kendall Crowns, 621 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: How difficult is it to dismember a human body? 622 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: I mean, this was his plan all along. He told 623 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 3: the CI that and he did it. 624 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 16: So it depends on how you dismember the individual. If 625 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 16: you cut at joint spaces, like along the wrists or 626 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 16: the elbow or the shoulder, you can actually pull the 627 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 16: limb off quite easily. But if you start cutting in 628 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 16: the midshaft of the bone itself, it's very hard to 629 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 16: get through the bone. So if you know what you're doing, 630 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,479 Speaker 16: you can dismember an individual quite quickly. But if you're 631 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 16: focusing on. 632 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Wait, if you know what you're doing, did you just 633 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: say that I'm sorry? 634 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 12: Yes? 635 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: Did you just say If you know what you're doing, 636 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: you can dismember a human very quickly. 637 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: Okay, well let's just go Let. 638 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: Me just again go out on a limb and pretend 639 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: this is his first time dismembering someone. 640 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 3: How do you know what he's doing, Well, if. 641 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 16: He has any background in hunting or cooking or anything 642 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 16: like that where he's worked with chickens, if you understand 643 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 16: where the joint spaces are you can dismember an individual 644 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 16: quite quickly. But again, if you don't understand that, and you. 645 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 3: Say what do you mean by quickly? 646 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: I thank you, and I are in two different time 647 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: space continuums. What do you mean you can dismember a 648 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: body relatively quickly? 649 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 16: Again, you can take the if you go for the 650 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 16: joint spaces, you can take each arm off. 651 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: Each What is quickly? What is quickly to doctor Kendall Crowns, 652 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? How quicker can you 653 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: dismember under an hour? Wait, I'm not talking about Dexter. 654 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: It takes an hour for one one episode of Dexter, 655 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: and that's starter to finish Alpha omega. 656 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 3: Soup to nuts. 657 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: You're telling me a body can be dismembered by an 658 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: amateur in an hour. 659 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 16: Well, by an amateur, it'd probably take over an hour, 660 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 16: maybe longer, maybe several hours. Again, it's just what is 661 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 16: their knowledge base for taking a part limbs? 662 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm going to go with what you just said. 663 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshall. The dismemberment of this little girl was 664 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: part of his fantasy. 665 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I bet you he dragged it out. 666 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: The placing of the body parts on the kid's life. 667 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: So it's almost more than I can take, can't. I 668 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: hate to even say it in front of miss Shehena Nacy. 669 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 3: I didn't want to say this in front of missus Robinson. 670 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 7: I don't want to be offensive. 671 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: But this was a sexually motivated crime. 672 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 7: This is a beautiful young woman, and torturing her, dragging 673 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 7: this out, dismembering her, all of those acts of cruelty 674 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 7: were to enhance his sexual arousal. But Nancy then placing 675 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 7: the body parts around, shocking other people, it's the element 676 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 7: of shock that made him sexually excited. So this guy 677 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 7: is just prolonging the crime, and he probably built up 678 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 7: to it for a long long time. Even in terms 679 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 7: of the dismembering. I would look at his computer and 680 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 7: see if he googled how to do that, because he 681 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 7: was already planning to do it. 682 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of sentencing. Can't these sentences be 683 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: stacked life plus twenty plus twenty plus twenty life for 684 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: the murder, twenty for the arson, twenty for tampering with 685 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: the corpse, and so on and so on. I want 686 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: to make sure he never sees the light of day again. 687 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds, and God bless the family 688 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: of Sunday Robinson. 689 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: Goodbye friend,