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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're thrilled to have you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. Fun to be here. It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: Coming from undisclosed locations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at a crazy location.

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Speaker 4: I'm at my new job break and I worked for

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Speaker 4: one of the evil empires, one of the famous ones,

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Speaker 4: like I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not actually so many America. Yeah, this one is, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just for our own conscious we wouldn't rather you not

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Speaker 2: just that much, Chris, I think sleep that part out.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the back of an.

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Speaker 2: Old Navy There you go. It is. That's even funny

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Speaker 2: where you are. I'm in the back of old navy.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry, dude. We're switching out seasons right now, so

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Speaker 2: nobody's gonna miss me. But you are in.

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Speaker 1: The heart of capitalist empire. And the vibes are good.

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Speaker 1: I have to imagine good. They're like they're taking all

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Speaker 1: the money right.

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Speaker 4: I'm on like a camp a campus type thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: where it's like the the you know, like it looks

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Speaker 4: like it'd be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I also know nobody at this place is going to

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Speaker 3: listen to this podcast.

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Speaker 4: These people don't know anything about anything except for like

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Speaker 4: what's wrong with the copy machine? And they don't know

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Speaker 4: that's not that's something they don't know, but they want

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Speaker 4: to ask every you know, like that's one of the

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Speaker 4: main topics, like what is up with.

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Speaker 1: A copying back read the copy machine?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, it's just like fun benefits, whimsical benefits being

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Speaker 2: it's just.

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Speaker 4: Like it looks like it's gonna be fun, you know,

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Speaker 4: and then like it's just I don't know, it's like,

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Speaker 4: uh no matter how much soft ice cream you give to.

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Speaker 5: Of like gulog, like you know, like yeah, it's what

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Speaker 5: ifs had soft serve or fun orange couches glog had

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Speaker 4: Like had like you know something so like said like

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Speaker 4: living your best life or something on the side. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's like fucking it's not you know, And goolog actually

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Speaker 4: would be a funny comedic device if it wasn't like

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Speaker 4: at the.

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Speaker 3: Front of our actual news.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is not a gulog, but it's it's

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Speaker 4: just it is interesting that I've been trying to figure

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Speaker 4: out what's weird about it. It's just like a really

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Speaker 4: fun looking building, but the but there's no no laughs,

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Speaker 4: and it's.

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Speaker 2: Everyone just kind of like eyes straight ahead, like just

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Speaker 2: getting the work done, or like the socializing is very

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Speaker 2: superficial because everyone's I mean, I get it, everyone's toilt

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Speaker 2: the threat of being unhoused and uninsured. So it's just like.

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Speaker 3: I think it's mostly work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they have huge amounts of work, like

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Speaker 4: a real ton of like closely monitored work, like.

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Speaker 2: The love that you're sneaking up to recording podcasts. Right,

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Speaker 2: this is your I guess, and if I got.

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Speaker 4: Fired, If I got fired, I'd be fine with it,

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, I don't care, like I I'm.

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Speaker 3: Doing my job the best I can.

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Speaker 4: And I did find out in the last couple of

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Speaker 4: years that like being freelance as a you know, I

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Speaker 4: don't even know how to discuss this without like sounding

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Speaker 4: like a like I would consider meet myself to be

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Speaker 4: this kind of whatever this is, like you know, is

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Speaker 4: not doesn't pay, you know, it doesn't pay enough. It

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Speaker 4: pays like you know, I'm so grateful for my Patreon

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Speaker 4: I have from my podcast, and and I'm grateful for

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Speaker 4: the occasional thing I'll get like a tour or something

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Speaker 4: like that, but it's not something that you can count on.

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Speaker 4: I had a tour that was supposed to happen last

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Speaker 4: fall that was gonna be a lot of money, you know,

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Speaker 3: But once again, like what I think of is a

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Speaker 4: It's like sure less than I don't want to say

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Speaker 4: So it was like an emergency, like because I had

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Speaker 4: like like, oh, it's true what they say, just manifest

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Speaker 4: your you know, just getting a good mood and and

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Speaker 4: like an offer from some people I like saying, come

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Speaker 4: out and do this thing, and it just didn't And

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Speaker 4: I'm not mad at them. It just got canceled and

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Speaker 4: that's that. But that was the end of Then all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, it was like, oh, I can't manifest

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Speaker 4: so I had to get a job. So I'm at

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Speaker 4: a job, and I'm very grateful to have it. But

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Speaker 4: I will say that there's not a lot of room

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Speaker 4: to move up anymore for anybody. You're sort of in

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Speaker 4: your job, and that's that's what it like. There's not

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like there's much excitement. You kind of know,

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Speaker 4: you have a basic idea of where you're gonna go,

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Speaker 4: and it's not gonna be too far vertically, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Know, I don't think the spirit.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, like there have been a million jobs like this,

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Speaker 4: but but they don't present themselves.

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Speaker 3: As fun usually. I think that's the difference. Like if

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Speaker 3: he worked at like you know, I don't know, there's.

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Speaker 2: Something word yeah at like the Ford Factory in the

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Speaker 2: seventies or eighties or nineties, Yes, and like this will

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Speaker 4: Henry Ford like also like even though he was probably

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Speaker 6: Like action calendar nineteen thirty eight where it showed him

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Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't rub it in like I mean

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Speaker 4: these these guys that are running your company now in

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's like that is not.

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Speaker 4: Like a lot of the jobs that this company require

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Speaker 4: a lot of like ability. But you're serving people who

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Speaker 4: don't even pretend, you know, they don't even pretend that

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Speaker 4: this is this is just a transactional You're just working

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Speaker 3: There's no other thing they're even talking about.

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Speaker 4: They're not even trying to disguise it, you know, except

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Speaker 4: for with the living your best life neon.

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Speaker 3: But even that, it's like, now.

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Speaker 4: That Trump's in office, all that rings completely hollow because

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Speaker 4: all of these oligarchs just lined up, all these guys

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Speaker 3: Because this is what's happening because you got a democratic president. Now,

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Speaker 3: oh fuck fuck all that. Yeah, and that's disheartening.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you know, I mean, you

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Speaker 4: they're not going to trick me into living here or

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Speaker 4: you know, being here forever.

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Speaker 4: And I am not really at an old Navy, but

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Speaker 4: World bank basically somewhere in between old Navy and raytheon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right right right? What is some things are

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Speaker 1: Hell, okay, interesting because most people would say that's the baion.

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Speaker 7: Do you remember when we all were like, I don't

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Speaker 7: I realized, like, okay, not only do I need help

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Speaker 7: We're talking Hell is for a scale we did not imagine, folks.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten bad out there.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder, and I think this is like what

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Speaker 1: it great on a curve? Like if everybody got bad,

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Speaker 1: which is like Old Testament, they don't grade on a curve.

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Speaker 1: They're like, this city got bad, and we're turning everyone

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Speaker 1: to salt in the whole city. It's not like this

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Speaker 1: Everybody's getting touched.

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Speaker 1: Was that we're gonna let one person survive in a

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Speaker 1: So that's yeah, I think that would be My contention

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Speaker 7: Maybe here's what I think. I think Sodom and Gomora,

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Speaker 7: I think what we got there was a disinformation campaign. Sure,

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Speaker 7: I think they all know grizzles and they were anti vacks,

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Speaker 7: and that's actually what happened, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 7: I think it was like probably more of a hygiene issue.

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Speaker 2: I think it could have been an experimental art piece. Right,

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Speaker 2: this is skul. We don't salt and meant to be

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Speaker 2: like will I don't know, they don't turn to salt.

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Speaker 7: I think we don't know. We have to we have

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Speaker 7: to always be aware of disinformation campaigns. Now we can't.

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Speaker 7: We can't look back on history without that lens.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I asked my dad about that, maybe

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Speaker 2: like when I was twelve or something, when I really

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Speaker 2: I remember him saying, goes, how do we know this

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Speaker 2: isn't hell? That's the question? Twelve man? And that ship

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Speaker 2: fucked with me? What do you mean that's like a

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Speaker 2: Buddhist like purgatory. Yeah, that this could be purgatory that like,

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Speaker 2: who's to say whatever this existence is is not? And

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Speaker 2: I just remember, like, but he just said that ship

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Speaker 1: It's going to be increasingly interesting to watch as things,

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Speaker 2: they're like, we got the target, we saw him under

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Speaker 2: his girlfriend's building, and now the building is collapsed, and JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance's responds excellent, like mister burns or some shit, and

441
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Speaker 2: you're like, hold on, you guys flattened a fucking building

442
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: to get one person, And I mean, this should be

443
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Speaker 2: part for the course, because America is not about efficiency

444
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Speaker 2: when it comes to going after targets about of any kind.

445
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Speaker 2: But like, that was just one thing I read like

446
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Speaker 2: that was a little bit like that details like the

447
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Speaker 2: whole building's gone, so we're good, and yeah, that very

448
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Speaker 2: burns the in response. But now because the transcripts are out,

449
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: they can't just do the same thing where they're like, nah,

450
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Speaker 2: they didn't talk about it, and then it sort of

451
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Speaker 2: turned into well, actually, signal signal is actually really secure,

452
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Speaker 2: so it doesn't even matter, and now they're just like

453
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Speaker 2: the fuck am I gonna say? So for starters? Right,

454
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: Trump is so fucking old and senile that he basically

455
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: has no clue what any of this is. And it

456
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Speaker 2: shows when he was asked directly like hey, what do

457
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Speaker 2: you think about this whole signal thing, and he just

458
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: sounds like an old guy where a bunch of young

459
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Speaker 2: people were telling him it's not a big deal, and

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Speaker 2: that's just kind of his energy.

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Speaker 7: Do you think that Mike Waltz made a mistake and

462
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Speaker 7: doesn't need to apologize.

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think he should apologize. I think he's

464
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Speaker 10: doing his best. It's equipment and technology that's not perfect,

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Speaker 10: and probably he won't be using it again, at least

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Speaker 10: not in the very near future.

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Speaker 2: What do you have the sort I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Let's get everybody in the room.

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Speaker 10: Whenever possible.

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Speaker 2: That was Michael Walt's chief fuck up, the guy who

471
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Speaker 2: did it, and that's why we looked there. Yeah, he

472
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Speaker 2: was basically like, and we probably won't be microwaving any

473
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Speaker 2: glowsticks anymore while wearing a beautiful shirt, and he's like, no, daddy, no,

474
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Speaker 2: I will not be microwaving glow sticks in the microwave.

475
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I know that's bad, and then just kind of dismissing

476
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: it is like it's a technology and a thing and equipment.

477
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: No they don't. This is a fuck you guys. We're

478
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Speaker 2: talking about classified shit and unsecured channels, which normally lands

479
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Speaker 2: people in prison. This is his great genius.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes you find out defects by exactly things like that.

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Speaker 10: But I don't think it's something we're looking forward to

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Speaker 10: using again. We may be forced to use it. You

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Speaker 10: may be in a situation where you need speed as

484
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Speaker 10: opposed to gross safety, and you may be forced to

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Speaker 10: use it, But generally speaking, I think we probably won't

486
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Speaker 10: be using it very much.

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Speaker 1: Dude, gross safety, man, that's safety is nasty.

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Speaker 2: This is like gross safety that you're trying to have

489
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Speaker 2: like operational security for national security whatever.

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Speaker 1: But so when he's talking about like using it versus

491
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Speaker 1: like he does, he just mean like group the group chat,

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Speaker 1: the technology of like having a group chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, because that's Mike. Well, it's like, yeah,

494
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: we'll definitely like get together in person. That's probably better

495
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Speaker 2: than like in a skiff or something good.

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Speaker 11: But also is there I mean obviously so I guess

497
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Speaker 11: signal is not as secure as you would want for

498
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Speaker 11: government war secrets, right, But isn't more important the fact

499
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Speaker 11: that they invited a journalist to the chat. Isn't that

500
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Speaker 11: also part of it? But they're not really addressing that

501
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Speaker 11: part of it at all, right.

502
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Speaker 2: No, because they have to kind of tack onto whatever

503
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Speaker 2: they feel gives them the best chance of defending something

504
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: that is completely they're defending.

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Speaker 11: On the technology instead of being like, oh, he pushed

506
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Speaker 11: the wrong button and like the RST button you could

507
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Speaker 11: possibly push in that scenario.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, this is it's probably good that

509
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Speaker 2: obviously we just played how do you do that clip

510
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: where yeah, Trump is so like this is so far

511
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Speaker 2: out of his depth. He does not have an aptitude

512
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Speaker 2: for technology that these people can just basically give the

513
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Speaker 2: excuses to Daddy and he has no clue. So he's like,

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Speaker 2: I see, I see. So they're just they're tripping. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna he There's almost no chance that he

516
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Speaker 1: hasn't at least asked if he can get Barren across this.

517
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Speaker 1: He's not, you know, he's like, let me.

518
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Speaker 2: Check with We're close. So we're close to this. So

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00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: Michael Waltz, right, he's doing He went on Laura Ingram

520
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Speaker 2: show to and just was doing, like just contradicting himself

521
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Speaker 2: all over. Remember it was him that created the group

522
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Speaker 2: and added people to it, and in most realities that

523
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Speaker 2: would mean the buck stops with him. But his defense

524
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: is very nonsensical. This is him trying to explain exactly

525
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Speaker 2: what happened to Laura Ingram.

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Speaker 8: Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name

527
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Speaker 8: and then you have an and then you have somebody

528
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Speaker 8: else's Right, you've got somebody else's number on someone.

529
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Speaker 2: Else having loser in the group. It looked like someone else.

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Speaker 8: Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in

531
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Speaker 8: some other technical means something we're trying to figure out.

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Speaker 2: This guy just said, so of course I didn't notice

533
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Speaker 2: this loser that you added. This is the guy who

534
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Speaker 2: added who added him, So of course I didn't see

535
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Speaker 2: his lose. He tricked me into doing that.

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Speaker 11: I also have to say, I've never had somebody's number

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Speaker 11: on somebody else's name in my contacts on my phone,

538
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Speaker 11: just just the base level of that. That's never happened

539
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Speaker 11: to me. How is that happened? How is that comment?

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Speaker 2: But he's like a loser, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And then did you see at the end he's like, Oh,

542
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if you probably snuck into the group

543
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Speaker 2: or something. What do you fucking fucking smeegel ass Lodge

544
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: and the Tricksie Hobbits is group chat? Dude, you fucking

545
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: added him.

546
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Speaker 1: So this reminds me of like early podcast ads. We

547
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: talked about this when we hosted the podcast words, but

548
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: like when they were like the post office fucking sucks?

549
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: Am I right?

550
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Speaker 1: And everyone had to be like yeah, like they almost

551
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: brainwashed me into being like, god, the post office is

552
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: the worst place in the world. We all agree on that, right,

553
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: Like they're just trying.

554
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: They're just trying.

555
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: To like make it seem like we're all constantly sending

556
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Speaker 1: groups and like adding people who we don't know.

557
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: Oh, like this happens all the time to all of us.

558
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is you can keep trying, but like,

559
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: this is not a problem that anyone has really run into.

560
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: The dude, the excuses get worse. So then he's trying

561
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: to be like, I don't know, like we gotta we

562
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: gotta get to the bottom, like they're doing the hot

563
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: dog car sketch right now, and he's like, well, what

564
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: the fuck happened? So this is him going on about no,

565
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: we got we're gonna really look into this. You've got

566
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: some smart people looking into this. We're going to get

567
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Speaker 2: to the bottom of it.

568
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Speaker 8: We have I just talked to Elon on the way here.

569
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Speaker 2: We've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened.

570
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 8: But I can tell you added to him.

571
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Speaker 2: I don't know this guy.

572
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 8: I know him by his horrible reputation and he really

573
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 8: is the bottom scum of journalists, and I know him

574
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Speaker 8: in the sense that he hates the president.

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Speaker 2: But I don't text him. He went on my phone.

576
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: He wasn't on my phone. He was just having to

577
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: diet coke man and he was just bothering me. Like

578
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: this guy, he goes this guy from the by the way, technical,

579
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, you fill Baltimore, Like we need the

580
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: technical minds looking into this your fucking fingers. Well, why

581
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: do you think this guy was invited?

582
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: How?

583
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: How what do you think happened? He's from Boynton Beach, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Jack, Yeah, wanting on I don't know because he want

585
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: on his phone. So it's kind of crazy how you

586
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: get in the group chat when he wanted there?

587
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Like I think I think the most the easy response

588
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: here is that he is so bumbling and in nept

589
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: that he doesn't even have the wherewithal to double check

590
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: who's on a fucking group thread when you're talking about, yeah,

591
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: like a military attack in Yemen. That sounds like the easiest.

592
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Other people like maybe he was trying to leak it

593
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: to the Atlantic or something leak what yeah for d

594
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Speaker 2: Chess of completely called the classic to the press as

595
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Speaker 2: that one guy did his mulleny bit the other.

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Speaker 1: Day, although now it sounds like the joker. It's a

597
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to do a good mulleny.

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Speaker 2: I feel yeah, without crossing it over into Keith Ledger's joker.

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Speaker 11: John John Mullaney does a great Millennie, one of my

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Speaker 11: favorite mulleniey.

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Speaker 2: John. But yeah, so right now, I think Trump said

602
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: it again. He announced that Michael Waltz will be leading

603
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: the investigation, and what happened with his own fucking hands.

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Speaker 1: I mean it does like maybe somebody else added him,

605
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: thinking they were adding somebody else. I don't like that

606
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: is a question. Does he have a name that is

607
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Speaker 1: similar to somebody who would like plausibly have been there,

608
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: or like a number.

609
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Goldberg I think in the article said it may

610
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: have been this other person with the same initials, but

611
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: they don't have the same name.

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Speaker 11: Maybe maybe he was like, maybe he's like, okay, these

613
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Speaker 11: are the people to add, these are people to definitely

614
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 11: not add, and then he accidentally added, yeah.

615
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very very very very sad and dumb,

616
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: and it says and I think that's the thing at

617
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: this point, it's just so clear that these people don't

618
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: know what they're doing at all, like to the point

619
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Speaker 2: where they can't even they're just using signal for their

620
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 2: for all this shit, like they work at some techn copy.

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Speaker 11: Has anyone in the military commented on this, because I

622
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Speaker 11: feel like people who are like putting their lives on

623
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Speaker 11: the line, you know, in the line of duty, It's

624
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 11: like they're the people I feel the should be the

625
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 11: most mad about this, because it's like you're looking at

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00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 11: our lives essentially as like a game that you're playing

627
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 11: on this group chat and you're inviting journals. It just

628
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 11: feels very disrespectful to like people who are taking this

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Speaker 11: seriously and are actually like out there fighting for our

630
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Speaker 11: country or something. I don't know, it's out like a

631
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Speaker 11: hardcore military supporter, but it feels a little bit like

632
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 11: disrespectful to that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. That is the take of

634
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: everybody who's just like, are these people like serious? Right right,

635
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: You're already asking poor people to enlist in the army

636
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: to do lence on behalf of the American empire, and

637
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: then time that you're not even a fucking try and

638
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: keep them safe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know,

639
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: but he's he's come back to Michael Watson, like Hexath

640
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: and Night. We're veterans, we get we very much understand

641
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: what here. We just don't know how to fucking text

642
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: or none of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, military people are also some of the best

644
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Speaker 1: at not talking about superior.

645
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: People outside like it's all retired people who are Like

646
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: some person said that the details that were like in

647
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: the in that like that signal thread were like rise

648
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: to like being court martialed in any normal instance.

649
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Speaker 1: Well, that's has a person as high up as the

650
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: vice president ever like openly, like that's against international law,

651
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: isn't it to be like he just walked into his

652
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Speaker 1: girlfriend's house and then we leveled the house?

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Speaker 2: Excellent?

654
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Like that feels jazz, feels like a killing of an

655
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Speaker 1: innocent person.

656
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Speaker 2: Jack, what are you talking about? This is America, man,

657
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Speaker 2: We don't I know, you know what I mean, But

658
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: like watch collapse on innocent people and the media can't

659
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: be fucking bothered one, I know, I know.

660
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Have we technically ever had them, Like yes, we've seen

661
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: like the wiki leak stuff where like people like entire

662
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: wedding party parties are bombed and they're like Roger, but

663
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: you don't have like Biden on the on Wax being

664
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: like excell yeah, brother, yeah, like say excellent as a

665
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: response to like he just walked into his girlfriend's place.

666
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: Now it's leveled and excellent. Just feels like a new

667
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: level of like you just did you just did it.

668
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 11: That's yea, you're the that's not a slow down, slow down,

669
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 11: you're turning me on.

670
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's easy, easy, don't touch, just don't move, don't move,

671
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: don't move, don't move. Okay, all right, just give me

672
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: like twenty minutes.

673
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh shit, all right, so we'll see see where they

674
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: he gets to the bottom of.

675
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: His own fuck up, my own ascinating. Yeah. I mean

676
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: they have. I mean they have started to be like

677
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: it's it must have been a low level official like

678
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: there they've there's been mentioned of some other person either way.

679
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, there's people who have

680
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 11: an aptitude for computers and there's people who don't.

681
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Yep, And if Baron's not in charge of it, I

682
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: can't be blamed. You know, you're playing with fire if

683
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: you're not running everything back Baron even an.

684
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: I message, you know, it'll be like Jack added Andrew

685
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: to the group chat at eight thirty nine, people be like, Okay,

686
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: you know I'm talking about that sort of thing. Yeah,

687
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: my parents, Yeah exactly.

688
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 11: I mean I've definitely had friends who have like been

689
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 11: talking shit about someone and they accidentally texted to that person,

690
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 11: you know, to that person.

691
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing I always hear about that thing.

692
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: I always hear about someone saying thing about someone and

693
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: there's like a weird like wiring in the brain where

694
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: you just like send it to that person. I heard

695
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: multiple people, but I've never heard somebody just randomly adding

696
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: the wrong number to a massive thing. But except for

697
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: on Fox News over the past three days, where they're.

698
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: All like, I do this all the time.

699
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Jesse Waters is like hypothetical of like we've

700
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: all added grandma to the bachelor party thing and suddenly

701
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: she's getting twelve consecutive dick pics because that's what we

702
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: do with our bachelor party.

703
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Bros.

704
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 11: Just watched the movie from like ten years ago with

705
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 11: that exact plot point of texting the wrong person.

706
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: When you're talking about them.

707
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 11: It was The Intern, the movie.

708
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: With Vince Waugh.

709
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, the Intern is Robert de Niro and

710
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway and Hathaway.

711
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 11: So Anne Hathaway is talking about her mom and she

712
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 11: accidentally emails it to her mom, and then Robert de

713
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 11: Niro has to break into her mom's house and get

714
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 11: into her computer and delete the email. So this is

715
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 11: something we covered fifteen years ago. And in the de

716
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 11: Niro movie, Yeah, you can't be inviting the wrong person to.

717
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: The group check. Yeah. Yeah, and that's probably their favorite

718
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: movie her mind.

719
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: Hathaway's mom does come back from Robert de Niro has

720
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: to kill her.

721
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it turned into a different kind of movie. Get

722
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up.

723
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: The deleted scenes from both that movie and uh, Meet

724
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: the Parents, just the bodies that he's leaving in his way.

725
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 11: Am Adam Devine has to help Robert.

726
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Process the corpse.

727
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll

728
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: be back.

729
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: And we're back.

730
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: We're back, and Chris, as we do about this time

731
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: in every episode, would we like to ask our guests

732
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: something that you think is overrated?

733
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: Well overrated? And I'll make this I really will make

734
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: this quick.

735
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: For everyone.

736
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: What made me think of this was what made me

737
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 4: think of this whole Republican thing. And Pepperoni is like

738
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: deep knowledge of music is also like pepperoni to them,

739
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: like it's like too exotic, Like we.

740
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: Just need the normal bands.

741
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 6: I don't need to know about a million bands. I

742
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 6: need to know about Pearl Jam I need to know

743
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: about the Allman Brothers and government mule. I need to

744
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 6: know about quality, good bands. I just need about four

745
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: bands to get me through. Four standard bands that go

746
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 6: with my goal. Yeah, to go with my pants and

747
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 6: my general attitude. Bands to be hacked, right long music bands.

748
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: That are too cool to be hacked.

749
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: So anyway that this, I had this radio show on

750
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 4: college radio and a Republican kid who went to Vanderbilt, Kate,

751
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 4: had a show after ours and it was called the

752
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: Cocktail Hour and it was mad, but they put it

753
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: on at eleven am. Our show was on like eight

754
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: to ten or something. Best of Bread got it and yeah,

755
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 4: it was on from two thousand and five to two

756
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: thousand and nine. At some point in there, most of

757
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: the students at Vanderbilt, you know, don't aren't aren't interested

758
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: in college radio, so the whole schedule was wide open.

759
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 4: So we had a whole the whole schedule was like

760
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: locals and this. But this kid was for Vanderbilt and

761
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: he was a preppy kid.

762
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 8: You know.

763
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: Look he dressed like a golfer or whatever, and he

764
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: and he and he came in and he was like

765
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 4: and he played. First of all, he's like man I

766
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: wanted the show is called Cocktailer. I was hoping they

767
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: put it on at five, but he didn't understand, like

768
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: you don't get to choose. Like he's like, they put

769
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: me on at eleven am. Kind of ruins the concept.

770
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: And we were like, yeah, it's a great concept, but

771
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: yeah it's ruined.

772
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: Cool, it's a crazy.

773
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 2: And it used to be called happy Hour.

774
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: So anyway, here's the thing about Republicans.

775
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 4: It's like very much like choosing a commercially available app

776
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: to transmit war plan or not having pepperoni on your

777
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 4: pizza because you think it's communist. These guys, this guy

778
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: played normal music on college radio. He played like we

779
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: listened to his set as we were driving away in

780
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: the car. He played like honky Tonk women Wow, And

781
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: then he played Pink by Aerosmith.

782
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: It is my favorite rick color.

783
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: And then that's like Sander that was in two thousand

784
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: and five to two thousand and nine. That is what

785
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: is on most radio stations.

786
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Republicans are idiots.

787
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't see it.

788
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: Because they convinced themselves like, yeah, I don't need I

789
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: don't need to go crazy and find out about every

790
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: band when there's a perfectly good band called the Rolling

791
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: Stone and ladies and gentlemen anyway, So he played, he

792
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: played fucking honky talk women on goddamn college radio.

793
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: That's what Republicans do.

794
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I'm playing. Yeah. I don't know if

795
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: you guys heard this little banger from Ario Speedwagon, but

796
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: we're playing Can't Fight This fea. I think it's the

797
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 2: first time anyone's heard this one.

798
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're not gonna believe this.

799
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: It's a live version off Ario Live from nineteen ninety seven.

800
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: But he doesn't even know. It's like with all the

801
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: wrong all the.

802
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: Wrong band members the original Ario.

803
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: So that's it. That's it.

804
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, that's I don't know if I

805
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: proved my case, but I think Republicans are so stupid.

806
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the Cocktail Hour that it is Republican DJs.

807
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: That guy probably has the number one podcast in America

808
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: right now.

809
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: And obviously both parties are horseshit. But I mean, like,

810
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: in general, like being a Republican has always been like

811
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: bragging about knowing nothing and thinking everything was going to

812
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: work out just because you fucking you know, use the

813
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: right because you use ivory soap and it drives your

814
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: fucking skin out right.

815
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: I don't need moist skin it, I don't need moist skin.

816
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: You liberal fucking don't even know their skins right up right,

817
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: it's just flakey. Let's talk. Let's talk about a news story,

818
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: shall we. Yeah, over the past couple of weeks, we've

819
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of legal residents of the United States

820
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: and students being disappeared because they either looked like gang

821
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: members or they had the decency to speak up against

822
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: a genocide. Yeah, and they're getting like in some cases,

823
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: they're just like people in masks are coming up to them, and.

824
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say almost all cases, these people are hiding

825
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: their faces and like the tattoo. And I was just

826
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: reading about a guy who had an autism awareness tattoo

827
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: for their little brother, and they use that as grounds

828
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: for being gang tattoo. Another added soccer ball. Anyway, and

829
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: now we're seeing more students, you know, they're than like

830
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: even students who weren't like necessarily like as if as

831
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: if organizing a protest is worth having any kind of

832
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: attention on you from authorities. But like, there's another student

833
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: at Columbia named Ra Johnny Srinavasan who left to Canada

834
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: because they were just like, oh they found out that

835
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: she found out her visa was being revoked and had

836
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: ICE agents knocking on her door, and she was just like,

837
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: I wasn't even participating in the Hamilton Hall protest. I

838
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: mean I have, like I have openly supported the Palestinian cause,

839
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: but I wasn't necessarily at the rallies or where's your

840
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: problem there speaking at them? But yeah, she left because

841
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: she was just like this is fucked up. Then, like,

842
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: there's so many stories like this. Another we also touched

843
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: on Unsea O Chung, who's like another student from South

844
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: Korea who's been here in the US since she was seven,

845
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: but again deigned to have any kind of opinion on genocide.

846
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: We've seen this with lectures at universities, and one of

847
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: the most recent ones was like this disappearing of this

848
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: PhD student, Romesa oz Turk, who was at Tufts University.

849
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: And again she's getting a lot of attention because of

850
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: her brazen daylight kidnapping that was caught on fucking video

851
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: and it looks like some shit out of a movie,

852
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: like she's walking on the sidewalk She's on her way

853
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: to a friend's house to break her fast, and one,

854
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: one by one, massed agents pull up, start pulling badges out,

855
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: start clawing at her, taking her backpack off, putting their

856
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: masks on, and throw her in the back of an suv.

857
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: And you know, like we see all these things, we

858
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: see what's happening with the government, and I think a lot.

859
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm definitely all the time just sort of like internally

860
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: and outwardly saying shit like, oh my god, me like

861
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: what is this? Like Nazi Germany, and a lot of

862
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: people do say this kind of thing. But I was

863
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: just reading this piece by Daniel Besner, who's like a

864
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: historian and he's been on Zeitgeist before. He wrote a

865
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: piece in Jackman that kind of gave a little bit

866
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: like some perspective that I really needed. He sort of

867
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: points out that while this is all very disturbing and

868
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: terrible and not normal by sort of like what we

869
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: believe to be the everyday comings and goings of you know, America,

870
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: it isn't some kind of like freaky fascism that is

871
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: happening here that comes from like European history. This is

872
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: all actually very American, and the laws being used are

873
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Speaker 2: not coming out of thin air. They are American laws,

874
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: and that just sort of gives a lot of these

875
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: examples to sort of help recenter like what we're fighting against,

876
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: cause I think it's it's very easy to be like,

877
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 2: this is some foreign malady that's landed on our shores,

878
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: and what do we do about this, rather than giving

879
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: ourselves a little bit of historical perspective and understanding that

880
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: the way out of this is truly like through reckoning

881
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: with how we actually how our own laws are constructed,

882
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: how our own systems of oppression are constructed. Like talking

883
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: about presidents that act you unilaterate laterally without Congressional oversight,

884
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, you point to the fact that while typically

885
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: Congress was the body that was empowered to officially declare war,

886
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: the last time Congress did that was nineteen forty two,

887
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: and since then we've threatened or used direct force over

888
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: two hundred times at the behest of the president.

889
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: Or a These weren't officially wars, you know, so we

890
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't officially lose them either.

891
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: That's the undefeated. And like illegally detaining and deporting people,

892
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look, we've seen it in World War two,

893
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: with what we've done to Japanese American people. This is

894
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: also happening during Woodrow Wilson's presidency, and it goes on

895
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: and on and on, and I just think, again, his

896
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: point isn't that we just need to sort of chill out,

897
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: because this is all just very par for the course

898
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: of the United States. But again, like to frame it

899
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: as this thing that isn't uniquely American, is not is

900
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: counter to like effective resistance when this is truly also

901
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: about reckoning with what has been constructed in the United

902
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: States and actually figure out how to dismantle those things

903
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: as well.

904
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's hard for Americans to like the

905
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Israeli quote unquote settlers who attacked the Oscar winning filmmaker

906
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Speaker 1: and like they had masks on as they did it,

907
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: and it was like people were like, oh, that's like

908
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: the clan again. But right then, when there's these asked

909
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: police officers or whatever, these mask ice agents who are

910
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: kidnapping people off of American streets for having the wrong opinion,

911
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: they like, I feel like people aren't as quick to

912
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: make that connection. Even though the klu klux Klan is

913
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: the origin of American police thing, you know, it's.

914
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Definitely entrenched in it. And also thinking about the people

915
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 2: who were of high status, which is why they even

916
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: covered their faces when they did that, because they couldn't

917
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: they knew this was something they couldn't they couldn't reconcile

918
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: that with their outward personas or identities. But yeah, it's

919
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: just a I mean, I think the point being too

920
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: is like, because I think a lot of people are like, oh,

921
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: we just got to get rid of Trump, but if

922
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: we don't get rid of the rule set that we

923
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: just have in the United States, Democrats use these same

924
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: laws to justify these same kinds of actions as well,

925
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Speaker 2: So it's not I think that's like a larger point

926
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: that we really need to think about and also really

927
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: take a second to really sort of settle with that,

928
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 2: because right now it's students who are who have visas

929
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Speaker 2: who aren't technically United States citizens that they're you know,

930
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: mistreating with impunity. The logic in history only suggests that

931
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: this will then extend to actual citizens of the United

932
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Speaker 2: States too. And to think that maybe this is like, well,

933
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna it'll certainly stop there and it won't come

934
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: to us, I think is really really dangerous and we

935
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: really need to look at what's happened, like especially with

936
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Speaker 2: this student at Toughs like I think the only again

937
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: charged without any without a crime, at no crime, that

938
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: she wasn't charge with any crime. They're just like material

939
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: support for Hamas. And I think the only thing they

940
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: can point to is that she was in a byline

941
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: in the university paper that doesn't even mention Hamas. It

942
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: just asks the the administration at the school to recognize

943
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: what is happening. That the International Court called this place

944
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: the situation of Gozit for a high risk of genocide,

945
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: acknowledging that and divesting as appropriate, and this is what's happening.

946
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's very fucking scary. It's very frightening

947
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: and sadly very American.

948
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Speaker 4: This this this, this is the moment we have to

949
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: move beyond the two party system or we have to

950
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: abandon both these parties. At this moment, I don't know

951
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: how we're going to do it, but I think most people,

952
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: well not most people, but a lot of people realize

953
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: that we're appealing to the Democratic Party at this point

954
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: is is pointless and and all you have to do

955
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: is look at the history of the Democratic Party for

956
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 4: the even the last like twenty years or fifteen years.

957
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: You know, Obama. I cried and Obama got elected. That's

958
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: how invested I was in party politics back then.

959
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: And that wasn't that long ago. And I and I

960
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: and I and I really thought something good was going

961
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 3: to happen.

962
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: And then they told us something was going to happen.

963
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, no, Isaiah, I got you know, transparency.

964
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm going to prosecute the bankers. Maybe I'm going

965
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 4: to prosecute the war criminals from the administration. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

966
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: I mean, and anyway, and that was like quite the

967
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: opposite with Obama. I don't know the stats, but I

968
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 4: know he was doing tons and tons of drone attacks,

969
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: you know, accidental weddings, and deporting and going after whistleblowers.

970
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: So this is the thing.

971
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: Whistleblowers haven't been deported because they're American citizens. And maybe

972
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 4: maybe that's like a bridge too far, or it was then,

973
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: but they did everything short of deport They ruined their lives.

974
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: Like the people that broke the story that the CIA

975
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: was still collecting Americans phone data or you know, like

976
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: illegally the NSA, CIA.

977
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 3: Those guys are like.

978
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: Hey, there's a whole room in this building where they

979
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: just have this thing that's copying the whole Internet, and

980
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: they said they stopped doing that.

981
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Those people all were ruined.

982
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I forget the name of the guy

983
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: I whish I had on the tip of my tongue,

984
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: but that was a American citizen guy well snowed and

985
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: had to leave. I mean, reality winner, anybody who tries

986
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: to do the right thing generally, yeah, gets fucked like hard,

987
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: not just Democrats by Democrats, just as hard as Republicans.

988
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: So that if we really want that to change, you

989
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 4: know that there has to be and we may be

990
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: able to pull out like an AOC or a Bernie

991
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: out of the We might be able to pull some

992
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: like greatest hits out of the Democratic Party to start

993
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: a new party, but I'm suspicious of even that. But

994
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: I mean, we really need a third party or just

995
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: I mean those parties are done in my opinion. Yeah,

996
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 4: we have seen the absolute failure appealing to Democrats now

997
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 4: is just like anyway, so.

998
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think because we still look at like America

999
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: as like this house that like we still want to

1000
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: live in, and it's like we're nostalgic for it without

1001
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: really realizing how dilapidated, rotten and violent it is. And

1002
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: we're like insisting that it can be fixed, and we're

1003
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 2: but we're all we're all living under this same sort

1004
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: of oppressive cage and trying to think that like, well,

1005
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: maybe if we can just refer form this, it'll work,

1006
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: rather than like what activists have been saying foring like

1007
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: you can't, we can't reform our way out of this,

1008
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: like this has to be left behind because we're seeing

1009
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: what the status quo for both of these, both sides

1010
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: of this political spectrum, how that plays out, and it's

1011
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: not beneficial to normal people at all. It's basically two

1012
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: flavors of oligarchy. Yeah, and one one has like better

1013
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: marketing and the other is just more in your face

1014
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: with how fucking just brazen it is. So I think, yeah,

1015
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: to your point, it's every time people are like, I mean,

1016
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: like so many people are like god, what the fuck

1017
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: are they doing? Like we can't even fuck, like these

1018
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: people don't even want to have a fight. We have

1019
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: that energy has to kind of extend to also realizing

1020
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: we cannot let these people, you know, continue to try

1021
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: and convince the rest of America that like they are

1022
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: the solution to this problem that they are also the

1023
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: cause of.

1024
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 10: That.

1025
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, dude, you running is amazing. Kat Abu

1026
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Gazle running in Illinois ninth District to against Jan Schakowski,

1027
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: that's great. The homie that is running for mayor in

1028
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: New York, Zorn Mamdani, who is just again talking that

1029
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: real shit about like we are leaving normal people behind

1030
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: and we are emphasizing the well being of corporations over

1031
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: really simple shit like being able to afford to get

1032
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: around the city or pay your bills or eat food.

1033
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: And whatever free speech we have left, we've got to

1034
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: use it. I mean, like right now, you can still

1035
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 4: run for office. It's not even hard, and you might

1036
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: not get elected, but you will get to speak to people.

1037
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 4: That was for me, like just getting invited to events

1038
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: where they gave me a microphone, right, you know, that's huge.

1039
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: Like being on a podcast is also huge. The fact

1040
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: that you guys are talking about this stuff fearlessly is huge.

1041
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: I'm so excited every time I hear someone telling the

1042
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: truth because it's dangerous right now, but it's a risk

1043
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: that has to be taken. You know it has to

1044
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: be and and you know I I anyway, Yeah, what

1045
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: you're saying is correct.

1046
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, uh.

1047
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm just as I mean, I'm still wishing the Democrats

1048
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: would would do something because I grew up in this country. Yeah,

1049
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: so I'm like, God, Chuck Schumer really dropped the ball,

1050
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 4: Whereas there's a lot of people are like, he's a profisient.

1051
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's his job is to drop the ball.

1052
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: You know, did you forget what you said yesterday?

1053
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: You know, because you keep wanting to go back to

1054
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: because everyone just wants to have some fun and like

1055
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 4: raise their kids.

1056
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: They don't want to deal with all this fucking bullshit.

1057
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: He's like the Washington generals. The Democrats more and more

1058
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: just seem like they are intentionally there to have their

1059
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: pants pulled down as the Harlem Globe trotters like put

1060
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: spin the ball on top of their Yeah, either confetti

1061
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: on their head. Yeah. It's literally called controlled opposition exactly.

1062
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist.

1063
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Speaker 1: Please like and review this show if you like, the

1064
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: show means the world de Miles.

1065
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Speaker 2: He he needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.