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Speaker 1: and get into the bay. Let's go talk to Justin Harrisburg, PA. Justin,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 2: Thanks? Thank you, Paul, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I have a two thousand and five d W Jetta

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Speaker 2: that started throwing a P zero for two zero code.

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Speaker 2: I hoped to toll up to diagnostics and gave me

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Speaker 2: the code. It's related to the catalytic converter. By clear

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Speaker 2: the code out, the code doesn't come back on for

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Speaker 2: sometimes a week, sometimes a month or two.

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Speaker 1: Does your driving pattern change or very whether it's a

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Speaker 1: week or a month, are you still are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you a pretty consistent drive cycle pattern?

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Speaker 2: Very consistent drive cycle? Okay, yeah, it's pretty much used

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Speaker 2: for a work commute and that's about it. Since then,

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Speaker 2: I've noticed that if the car sits overnight and it rains,

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Speaker 2: I start the car up in the morning to go

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Speaker 2: to work. Having sporadic miss fires and it's throwing the

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Speaker 2: p Zier three oh one general miss fire codes both

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Speaker 2: on cylinder one.

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Speaker 3: Three and four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's a four. There's a four cylinder.

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Speaker 2: Justin Yes, a four cylinder two point leader, non turbo.

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Speaker 1: Motor, all right, any other any other diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it only misfires when it's cold out.

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Speaker 2: If I leave the car idle, it'll idle up for

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Speaker 2: about five or ten minutes and then it's good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: doesn't miss fire after that once the cars are warmed

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Speaker 2: up to operating temperature.

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Speaker 1: This is a spark plug, spark plug, wire and singular

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Speaker 1: coil vehicle, yeah okay. And this has the right a

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Speaker 1: coil pack. And and this has the air pump mounted

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Speaker 1: on top of the coil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the secondary air pump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great place to put it. So what's probably going

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Speaker 1: on here is you probably have impending coil failure, which

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Speaker 1: is not uncommon. You know, it's got a misfire. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that first. The misfire. You know, an

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Speaker 1: engine misses why it's not running smooth and in simplest terms,

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Speaker 1: it's going to miss for one of three reasons. Ignition fuel, mechanical.

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Speaker 1: I really doubt this is a mechanical reason, not on

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Speaker 1: an intermittent basis, not related to cold, damp weather fuel. Possibly,

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Speaker 1: but you'd have to give me a reason and support

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Speaker 1: that as to why ignition is the more common denominator.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be willing to bet that if you got

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Speaker 1: a little spray bottle of water, a little animizer fush

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Speaker 1: of the coil when the engine is running good, and

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Speaker 1: give it four to six minutes to soak in water

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Speaker 1: does some amazing things. I bet you it'll start to miss.

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Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I take the air pump off,

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Speaker 1: which you're probably gonna end up having to do anyway.

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Speaker 1: There's I think it's a six millimeter Allan. There's three

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Speaker 1: Allen's on that one two three. They come off, disconnect

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Speaker 1: to pump that slides out. You'll be looking right at

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Speaker 1: the ignition coil. There's a bracket that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: you need a long Alan shank to get that back

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Speaker 1: bottom bolt. But you'll be looking right at the top

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Speaker 1: of the coil. Take a look at the coils where

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Speaker 1: the you know, with of the car, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: I bet you there's a crack in a coil. And

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, it needs a coil assembly. Now

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Speaker 1: you know how many.

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Speaker 2: Miles are on the car, one hundred and seven thousand.

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Speaker 1: Ever, do plugs.

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Speaker 2: I just bought the vehicle less than a year ago, okay,

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Speaker 2: and I don't have any previous maintenance history on it.

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Speaker 1: All right, So if it's you're gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: and the wires are underneath the intake planum, right right,

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Speaker 1: pretty simple to do. There's a minimum amount of things

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Speaker 1: need to buy a long Alan socket set. The two

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Speaker 1: I actually have two Alans. I actually have two long

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Speaker 1: But my point is what I'll do is I'll break

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Speaker 1: to change plugs and wires, which I would recommend doing

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Speaker 1: you determine the coil's bed, I use those two alans

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Speaker 1: to hold the screws in the manifold. Just the weight

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Speaker 1: a pain in the neck to put back in. All right,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to be mindful that when you lift

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Speaker 1: the planum off, you've now got an open area directly.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is like let's go play with hand

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Speaker 1: this open planum that if one of those screws falls out,

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Speaker 1: guess where it goes? Right into the motor. See. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, then that's done. So what I'll do is

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Speaker 1: I'll bury gently lift it off. I take a piece

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Speaker 1: worried if something, you know, falls drops, I've got some

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Speaker 1: security there. The gasket that separates the two is probably

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Speaker 1: good enough to reuse. They're usually rock hard and they

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Speaker 1: don't change shape. If you want to get one, get one.

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Speaker 1: They're not expensive. And you know, plugs, wires, and a

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Speaker 1: coil pack. Make sure you use a good quality OE

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Speaker 1: plugs from Denso there there are iridium TT's if they

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Speaker 1: make it for that car work really well. I've used

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Speaker 1: them on some of the other volkswagons. Good part number.

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Speaker 1: Just just things to be mindful of and and that'll

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Speaker 1: resolve the misfire, all right. So that's the misfire side

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Speaker 1: of this equation. The catalytic converter fault. Catalytic converter faults

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Speaker 1: by definition of the law, has to reduce emissions seventy

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Speaker 1: now working twice as hard with a miss that's been

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Speaker 1: developing over time. Chances are you may have to put

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Speaker 1: a catalytic converter in this car first. But let's fix

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Speaker 1: the misfire fire first, all right, justin and then we'll

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Speaker 1: does that work?

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Speaker 2: That works for me?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but you know where to find me, you know

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Speaker 1: what's going on. That should give you enough to work on.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, Oh you're very welcome. I hope

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Speaker 1: I didn't I hope I didn't draw this out too long.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a it's a it's a simple procedure

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Speaker 1: that's just got a lot of detail to it. So

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure you got it. If

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Speaker 1: our next caller in Chico, California, with some questions about

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Speaker 1: changing trans fluid on a twenty thirteen F one to fifty. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Card Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Ron, I really really enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm just confused on when to do that. I've gotten

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Speaker 3: three different recommendations from the Ford dealer, and then I

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Speaker 3: just wanted to find out what you would recommend What.

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Speaker 1: Do you think? What are some of the recommendations you're hearing.

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Speaker 3: Well, one he's got thirty one thousand on it now

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Speaker 3: and I have it the oil change. That's a dealer.

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, said oh, we should do

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Speaker 3: to he said, oh, we should do it about sixty thousand.

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Speaker 3: I know my book says something about like one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand, right, And I used to have before

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Speaker 3: every thirty thousand. Yeah, I'm just confused.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me see if we can unconfuse you here.

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Speaker 1: First of all, this is not normal transfluid. It is,

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Speaker 1: but it isn't. This is mercon LV. This is their

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Speaker 1: extended life fluid. It's not cheap, but it's not expensive

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Speaker 1: when you compare it to the price of a new

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Speaker 1: vehicle or transmission. The one hundred and fifty thousand mile

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Speaker 1: change your transmission fluid concept, yeah, is ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that for a variety of reasons. Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Let's be practical. If this truck has fifteen thousand miles

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Speaker 1: Would you would? Would you would?

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Speaker 1: Let's see, if you're doing how many miles a year?

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Speaker 2: Do you go?

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand, fifteen thousand, fifteen? Okay, so in ten years

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have one hundred and fifty thousand miles on

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Speaker 1: it in ten years. Would you spend three four grand

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Speaker 1: in today's money to put a transmission in that truck?

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Speaker 1: Or would you go buy a new truck.

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Speaker 3: I'd buy a new truck, right, so ergo.

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Speaker 1: We now know why the marketing department decided one hundred

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Speaker 1: In a perfect world, an engineer can design a fluid

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Speaker 1: So the one hundred and fifty thousand that's out the door. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first trans fluid change, first fluid change of any kind.

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Speaker 1: I like the thirty thousand mile rule, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why, point blank. Okay, is the truck still under warranty? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, how long is the warranty?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was an ionic used with thirteen thousand, and

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Speaker 3: it's a factory certified, so the drive train goes to

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Speaker 1: Okay. So if there's a problem with this, I'd rather

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Speaker 1: catch it early, all right. So if there was something

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Speaker 1: new means never ever worked. I just like to know early,

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Speaker 1: all right. I vote for changing. I vote for changing

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Speaker 1: the transfluid at thirty all right, okay, or thirty five,

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Speaker 1: whatever your next schedule changes. I also vote for changing

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Speaker 1: the transfer case and the differential fluids for the same

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Speaker 1: exact reason, all right. Differential and drive line fluids other

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Speaker 1: than transmission are kind of like the Rodney dangerfield of

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Speaker 1: it's a case that those fluids, he'll do an awful

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Speaker 1: the road in the straight and narrow. You know, what

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Speaker 1: breaks down seals is contaminant. What creates contaminant is lack

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Speaker 1: that's maintained is the vehicle that doesn't have the problem

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll finish this up. I'm running. Ay in

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Speaker 1: the car doctor, we are back right after this. A

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars card ain't worth nothing. Hey, welcome back. Why

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Speaker 1: don't they mean? In the car doctor, We've got Jesse

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Speaker 1: on the line from Chico, California. We're gonna finish our

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Speaker 1: conversation here. Jesse, are you still there? You and you're

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Speaker 3: I am ron, thank you, so you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would do the first fluid drive line,

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Speaker 1: fluid change trans transfer case, both differentials. Thirty thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: It's a good number. It gives you a baseline to

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Speaker 1: work from. All right. The other rationale is in your case. Okay,

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Speaker 1: powertrain warranty five years, sixty thousand miles. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you waited until the sixty thousand mile mark, and you

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Speaker 1: max in a lot of cases, you know, g Jesse,

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Speaker 1: We're sorry, but you know, we pulled the pan down

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Speaker 1: at sixty two thousand. It could be sixty thousand three

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Speaker 1: which isn't supposed to be there. Gee, it's too bad

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Speaker 1: you're out a warranty. If you'd gotten in at fifty

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Speaker 1: nine thousand mills, we could have fixed this for you.

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Speaker 1: And how many times does that conversation happen? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's so ounce of prevention, pound to cure. Do

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Speaker 1: it at all? Do them all at thirty All right,

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Speaker 1: use the proper fluid and trust me, I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying this trying to sell a trans service. I've done

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Speaker 1: this transmission. This is the six R eighty. You know

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Speaker 1: where the dipstick is for this transmission?

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Speaker 3: No, because I can't, I don't think right.

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Speaker 1: The genius has put it down next to the exhaust

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Speaker 1: pipe on the right side, just before the catalytic converter.

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Speaker 1: So you need to get into like a thermal body.

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Speaker 1: Suit so you don't get fourth degree burns, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're trying to check the fluid level with the

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Speaker 1: engine hot. It's just absolutely ridiculous. And the whole rationale

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Speaker 1: of dipstickless transmissions and hard to get through. That's a

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Speaker 1: conversation for another day. Let's just suffice it to say,

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Speaker 1: change the transfluid. Now, keep an eye on it. I

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Speaker 1: would tell you at your fifty five thousand mile oil change,

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Speaker 1: have them pull that stick, what color is the fluid,

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Speaker 1: and if the fluid is still pink and rosy, roll

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Speaker 1: the dice. My vote is to change the fluid every

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Speaker 1: thirty to every thirty to thirty five thousand miles, and

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Speaker 1: chances are you won't have to put a transmission in

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Speaker 1: it and you'll enjoy it for the life of the vehicle. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm running ding in the car, doctor,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 3: See you