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Speaker 1: about today, and the first thing is, Ralph, I am

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Speaker 1: already sad, Like I am sad, And part of this

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Speaker 1: is bit because I generally have a a like a

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Speaker 1: like I deal with FOMO pretty bad in life. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm looking like I don't want to ruin the

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Speaker 1: rest of the college football season because I'm like, there's

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Speaker 1: How did I have to wait like thirty weeks for

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Speaker 1: college football and now it's already damn near over. What

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Speaker 2: This happens every single time. It's like it's a roller coaster.

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Speaker 2: You it takes two minutes to get up to that top.

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Speaker 2: Drop click click click, click, click, click, click click click.

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Speaker 2: You have all this anticipation, and then once you reach

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Speaker 1: Actually, it feels like a ten minute climb for a

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Speaker 1: forty five second ride. Yes worth it though, yes, oh

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Speaker 1: but and honestly, this season feels more worth it. And

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Speaker 1: I've started to hear a lot of the people who

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Speaker 1: were pushing back on never expansion, they're getting it now.

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Speaker 1: They're getting it because we still have four four weeks

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Speaker 1: left of regular season. Ball five for some for some

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Speaker 1: teams in terms of the number of games, and how

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Speaker 1: many teams would you say are still alive? Thirty in

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Speaker 1: terms of potential to make the college football playoffs and

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Speaker 1: not at an at large bid territory, but for getting

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Speaker 1: a chance to get into their conference championship game, because

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Speaker 1: getting into the conference championship game means that you got

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Speaker 2: Thirty fields high end maybe twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five, Okay, so that means the entire top twenty five essentially,

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Speaker 2: If you're excluding, if you're excluding like Army, Boise State.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a couple that are outside it. Maybe a couple.

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Speaker 2: Like Virginia Tech is not in the top twenty five,

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Speaker 2: it is closer to what you say, Maybe it's closer

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whole point is that it's a lot

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Speaker 1: more than what we've ever seen. And I think that

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Speaker 1: this is good for college football. I think it is

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Speaker 1: about Bruno. And that is that Texas Tech was worried

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Speaker 1: Now that matters because one on one hand, if you

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Speaker 1: My granddaddy had a police scanner. We used to sit

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Speaker 1: Do you believe? And well, that's how Texas Tech probably

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Speaker 1: anybody's helmet communication was was hacked. I actually, actually that's

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Speaker 1: That's not even hacking. That's just like turning it on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So my father in law hid his wife's birthday

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Speaker 1: Oh, you forgot to put him back on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like in the process like it and

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Speaker 2: My question is, how do you do you think they're fixing? Like,

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Speaker 1: So apparently there's been an update sent out and things

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Speaker 1: if they're not encrypted, if they didn't update theirs or not,

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Speaker 1: a couple of calls, right, and then and then say

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Speaker 1: And then I'd be pointing over the other box like sores,

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech's been getting made fun of for this, right,

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, I wanted to. It just looked like he

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Speaker 1: Because it didn't sound like there was any accusations.

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Speaker 2: Level said no, somebody affiliate and this is like we

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Speaker 2: were talking about, there's just people with scanners. Somebody recorded

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Speaker 2: themselves listening to Joey Maguire's play calls into Baron Morton

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Speaker 1: Doing, bro, bro, and people really don't want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what's said on those headsets. I

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Speaker 1: You should not want anybody to hear what the hell

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Speaker 2: Remember who was the oct at Notre Dame that was

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Speaker 2: You can bet they say some pretty negative stuff about

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Speaker 1: For sure. It was like, oh sorry, ass, I can't

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Speaker 2: There's mentions of the portal, for sure that are just

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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, all right. So we got news that

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Speaker 1: and that is for twenty twenty five. Is that Miami

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Speaker 1: has now added Notre Dame and they're going to open

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Speaker 1: the season with Notre Dame next season. I like this

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Speaker 1: because I like teams playing better schedules. So Miami is

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Speaker 1: I do know, and you know that I am a

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Speaker 1: person who will bash terrible college football schedules, Ralph, I

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Speaker 1: approve of this. If you're not gonna play nine conference games,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the interesting thing about this is, you know, yes,

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Speaker 2: Miami's a premiere program. Notre Dame is a premier program,

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Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's part of the Notre Dames

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Speaker 2: kind of one foot in, one foot out thing with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you know my question is, and I

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Speaker 2: love I love one offs, but I also love home

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Speaker 2: and homes. I don't think I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: stadium opener in twenty twenty five, and Miami is not going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah return oh wait, no, no, no, no, no, they do

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Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a TBA. It doesn't have a date yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, So just does TBA also mean that they

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Speaker 2: could back out because I remember Notre Dame had the

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Speaker 2: Arizona State home and home, and once they played that

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Speaker 2: first game, Notre Dame just opted out of the second one.

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Speaker 1: Well, they this is a longstanding thing, so they don't

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Speaker 1: play them in twenty seven, Then they do again in

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, then again in thirty one, thirty two, thirty four,

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Speaker 1: and thirty seven, which is insane that schedules are that

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Speaker 1: far far out in advance. But the thing that I

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Speaker 1: do notice, though, Ralph, is that beyond twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: and the fact that this game is to be announced,

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Speaker 1: this feels like the ACC is kind of and if

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Speaker 1: we see other teams start announcing games, I think it'll

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Speaker 1: mean that the ACC is probably it to nine conference games,

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Speaker 1: or that there's gonna be some sort of more schedule

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Speaker 1: realignment at this at this point, so so I think

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Speaker 1: that that's the Taeiltale sign of that. But the whole

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Speaker 1: point is we are supposed to be getting better college

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Speaker 1: next year they have Montana State, Oklahoma State, and then

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Speaker 1: Oregon State. So you know we'll see enough for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the the Oregon State game. That's like a tweener,

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Speaker 1: Yes, one, and that leads us to the college Football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: I would not mind the promotion and relegation is it

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Speaker 2: So Georgia between having five games left and four games

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Speaker 2: No, you're you're one hundred percent right. Texas is probably

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Speaker 1: and oh they do have Kansas State.

436
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so maybe maybe if they beat Kansas State

437
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Speaker 2: and you have two undefeated teams and it's a decent

438
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: enough game, they would include two. But you and I

439
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 2: both know Iowa State hasn't. They're seven to zero, but

440
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: not real. Yeah, they're the weakest undefeated too.

441
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Yes, agree with you, one hundred percent. Agree with you there.

442
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: And then there is BYU. Do you think they can

443
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: they're eight? No, can they navigate Utah, Kansas, Arizona State

444
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: in Houston?

445
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely and every single day that as So if SMU

446
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: beat SPIT, then we got to start looking at BYU

447
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: as as probably getting into the College Football Playoff because

448
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: their schedule, like Utah is falling apart. Uh. The ASU

449
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: game in Tempe could be tough, but I marked that

450
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: before the season is one, I didn't think ASU was

451
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: gonna win.

452
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

453
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: They would be They would have the least star power

454
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: of any team that made the College Football Playoff, But

455
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: undefeated is undefeated, and if SMU is ten and two,

456
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: that's a really good win.

457
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: For sure, especially if they beat Iowa State or whoever

458
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: they run up against.

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think if I think if BYU,

460
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: if SMU beats Pitt, we have to start looking at

461
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: BYU as a college football playoff team regardless of what

462
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: happens in the Big Twelve Championship.

463
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: That definitely could factor in. How about Clemson because Clemson

464
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: is now in a position where they've rattled off what

465
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Speaker 1: six straight wins after that thirty four to three lost

466
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: to Georgia, They've beaten app State, in C State, Stanford, FSU, Wake, Virginia,

467
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: and Louisville. The best records that they have gone up

468
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: against Ralph are they're gonna play Louisville, who is five

469
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and three. Aside from that, there's no team that they've

470
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: played that's better than four and four.

471
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: I think they kind of have the easiest path because

472
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Speaker 2: they could as long as they just would. They have

473
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Speaker 2: two ACC games left or three.

474
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Speaker 1: They have the Louisville, Virginia Tech, and Pitt, and then

475
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: they got Citadel and South Carolina.

476
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're in a position where as long as

477
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: they win their ACC games, and they could even lose one.

478
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: They could even lose one, like Clemson could lose three

479
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: more times and still make the College football Playoffs.

480
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Speaker 1: Well, as long as they don't lose to Pitt. That's

481
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: the thing. They can't lose to Pitt though, Yeah.

482
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: But they could. They could. Clemson could technically be a

483
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: four lost team in the college football playoffs.

484
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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And I think that we're the way they

485
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: could lose to the That's the thing about it is

486
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Speaker 1: that we're gonna find out, though. Ralph is like, we're

487
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna find out that college basketball understands what's going to

488
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: happen more than college football understands what's going to happen,

489
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: because we're The college football Playoff was expanded to ensure

490
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: that the blue bloods get into the playoff, right, to

491
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: ensure that you know that that the Alabama Georgia situation

492
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: doesn't happen last year, that they both get to go,

493
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: that Oregon and Washington that they both get to go

494
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: despite what happened that last year. You know that they're

495
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: still two of the top twelve teams. That's what it

496
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: was created for. But what happens Ralph. When you have

497
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: an unexpected conference championship loss for a team that's guaranteed

498
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs and now an automatic bid

499
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: is now given away, that's gonna that's gonna cause the

500
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: that's where the drama's gonna come in is when you know,

501
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: a three loss cleansing team beats Miami in the ACC

502
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: championship and you and you're like Miami sitting here at

503
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: twelve and one and you're gonna leave them.

504
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: Does it make you rethink your opposition to them automatically

505
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: going to fourteen in two years or do you think

506
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: that's what they had in mind when they did that.

507
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: I think that that's what they had had in mind.

508
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: That they want to make sure that the top four

509
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: teams from the SEC and the s A seed of

510
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: SEC and Big ten get into the playoffs. That's what

511
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: that's what they want. I mean. And truthfully, when you

512
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: look at the top half of these conferences, it's very interesting.

513
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: So but you and this is where I always talk

514
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: about logos matter, because Indiana at eight and oh is

515
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: number thirteen. If you put Clemson at eight and oh

516
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: with the schedule, they basically played the exact same schedule

517
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: if you take off that Georgia game and replace it

518
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: with anything, and you just change the Indiana name to Clemson,

519
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: who where where are they ranked? Are they ranked thirteenth,

520
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: ralph higher?

521
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Maybe?

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00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: Yes, they're probably rightked six, fifth at eight and oh,

523
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: because it's Clemson. And that's where I wonder how the

524
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff Committee is going to deal with the logos,

525
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: because because in the AP rankings, Indiana is sitting right

526
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Speaker 1: in front of a six and two Alabama team and

527
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: when you look at Alabama's wins, that that Georgia win

528
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 1: obviously sticks out majorly. But outside of that, you can't.

529
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the part that's making it so much

530
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: more difficult. So I'm actually excited to see how many

531
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Speaker 1: teams are going to make it, because these these little

532
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: games that are supposed to be, you know, layups, they're

533
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: not layups. And we're gonna and some teams are going

534
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: to get upset. And I do believe we're gonna have

535
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: some big names left out of the playoff and that's

536
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna get some real people mad. So, uh, Marcelo put

537
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: was it Jason marsh Marcelo Brandon put out a tweet

538
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: about college football playoff voters that being given forty five

539
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: minute versions of games so they can plow through them.

540
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was hoping that that was the case.

541
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Speaker 1: I was hoping that they that they weren't watching games

542
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: with commercial breaks and having to fast forward and everything else.

543
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: They and they do a hard job.

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00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 2: They get them together. They get them together. We've seen

545
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: the Yeah, because Paula Boyven, who I know a little bit,

546
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: was on the selection committee. They fly them in and

547
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: get them together and have them sit in a room

548
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: and watch college football all day.

549
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Bro, this is a whole job I would be doing.

550
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I would be watching. I would love to be on

551
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: the college football Playoff committee, and I believe I would

552
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. And I would watch games all

553
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: day and nitpick and everything else. And we're we're starting

554
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: to learn more about their process. So it's actually interesting.

555
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: So Michigan in the University of Michigan, who is having

556
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: quarterback problems. They lost a quarterback and a quarterback commit

557
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: this this week. So Jack Tuttle, who had played this year,

558
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: he has now said, listen, I'm done with football. I have,

559
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, too many concussions. So he's out Michigan lost

560
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: their commit Carter Smith as well. Now this was a

561
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: kid who's ranked the three star right now out of

562
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Bishop rot in Fort Myers, Florida. So I'm wondering what

563
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: was this a de commitment or was this a drop?

564
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: How do you see it, Ralph? And in terms of

565
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Michigan's quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: Well, does it matter? How is it going to be

567
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: spun for the next guy that Michigan's going after? Like it,

568
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: there's whatever it was, and however it's gonna be looked at. Right,

569
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: So you have you have Michigan, I think on the

570
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: season has like six touchdown passes.

571
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it ain't it ain't looking pretty.

572
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: And then they have a quarterback commit de commit and

573
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: now you could say, okay, well the context of that is,

574
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, they they don't need this kid anymore now

575
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: that daddy, Dave Portnoy big Bucks came in said that

576
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: he was willing. But that's for portal stuff. Yeah, but

577
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: you should need chool recruiting.

578
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah yes, oh yeah, yes, unless they believe that they're

579
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna flip some other big name kid for the for

580
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: the money.

581
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Speaker 2: But it would only be for the money because you

582
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: can't at this point you can't commit to Michigan for

583
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: the playing time. You know they're gonna run over. That's

584
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: the same as Oregon. That's the same as any high

585
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: school kid looking at Oregon. You have to look at

586
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: those not just the most recent history, George, but going

587
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: back probably ten fifteen years that outside of Marcus Mariota,

588
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: they do look to recruit high school and from up top,

589
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: and most of the guys from up top either come

590
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: in and start right away, or there's a lot of

591
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: pressure on the person who's in the program to hold

592
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: them off, like with the Tyler Shuck Anthony Brown situation.

593
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: So I would advise, and I don't expect a lot

594
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: of you know, high school quarterback prospects watch this show.

595
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: I would hope that they would. It's good information and

596
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: it's entertaining. But look at minor league baseball. Look at

597
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: minor league baseball, and make that your model. Go somewhere

598
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: where you can play, prove yourself and level up. You

599
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: should be looking at college football. If you're a high

600
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: schooler right now, you should be looking at college football

601
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: as where can I go in and play? And if

602
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: that's Weaver State, that's we State. Even if you have

603
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: offers from uh from big time programs. If you've got

604
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: Iowa State and Weaver State, but you know Iowa State's

605
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: gonna take a uh transfer out of the portal, then

606
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: go somewhere where you're gonna play, because then you're the

607
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: person to come in. And I don't know, I don't know,

608
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: but I think that I would caution any high school

609
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: player who's going to commit to Michigan for the money,

610
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: because you're not gonna be on the field.

611
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Speaker 1: Yep, that's one hundred percent. And I actually think we're

612
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna see some quarterback flips soon. I think that we're

613
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: gonna have uh Jaron uh key ways saga saga Polute.

614
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna flip from from cal Over to Oregon.

615
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have Julian Lewis potentially flip from

616
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: usc to either colorad or Indiana, and then that's gonna

617
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: create a free for all for some of these other kids.

618
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: That's what I think. Now. The the Carter Smith kid

619
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: that just decommitted from Michigan, he's ranked twentieth in in

620
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: the country, so he's gonna and he had plenty of

621
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: other options and offers, So I think that We're gonna

622
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: see some movement in the quarterback landscape because of the

623
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Speaker 1: Michigan thing and because of and because of what's gonna

624
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: transpire in some other spots as well with some de

625
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: commitments because if usc if they lose you to who

626
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: they who's been committed for some time, Bro, that is

627
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: going to send a panic around there. And I know

628
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: that they know that it is possible. So they are

629
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: making contingency plans, but it doesn't look like they've been

630
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: bringing in other a whole bunch of other twenty twenty

631
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Speaker 1: five quarterback recruits. So it's gonna get very interesting, buddy,

632
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: because of Dion pulls one of them last minute flips

633
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: and that puts them in a in a bad situation.

634
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: All them fans gonna go crazy.

635
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: True, very true.

636
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Speaker 1: All right. So the recruiting spending for twenty twenty three,

637
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Speaker 1: this has been a like everybody keeps talking about, oh

638
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, these teams in their recruiting budgets and their

639
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: nil budgets and everything else. So Ralph has the list

640
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: of how much that people have spent and he wants

641
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: me to guess these these school are you ready to go?

642
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you give me a school, okay, or I'll

643
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: give you a school. I guess I'll give you a school.

644
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: And then I want you to tell me what you

645
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: believe they spent on recruiting, just recruiting.

646
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay in the three school year. Okay, give me a range.

647
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: What what what is the top of the list, Like

648
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: what number is at the top of the list, and

649
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: then what number is like at the bottom of the list.

650
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's here's an example. We'll go to what

651
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Speaker 2: we'll do. We'll do your guys first, because you have

652
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: to assume that they're on the very high end of

653
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: recruiting spending.

654
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm saying, tell tell me what the

655
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: number is for the like what's the most money spent?

656
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Don't tell me who? So I can give you a range.

657
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: I I think the most the most money spent is

658
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: bordering on like five million dollars.

659
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: What dude, it was like two. It was like Georgia

660
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago spent like two almost three

661
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: million of people thought it was out outrageous. And then

662
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: what would be a low end number.

663
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: For the power for a low end number would be

664
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: seven figures, like just barely seven figures, Okay, would.

665
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Be okay, cool, Okay, cool. Now I haven't range between

666
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: one in one in five million, okay cool, But the.

667
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Five million I believe is an extreme outlier.

668
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe. All right, So.

669
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: Let's start with let's start with your boys in the

670
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: big ten twenty twenty three recruiting spending University of Oregon.

671
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Let's go. I want to go like one point nine million.

672
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: Okay, so technically not big ten and twenty twenty three

673
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: they were packed twelve. You say one point nine. The

674
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: actual number is just over three million dollars. Whoah, God

675
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty three recruitings.

676
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: Good job, good job, That money is well spent. All right.

677
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: Let's do a team that everybody.

678
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: Them boys private jetting all over the place. Bro.

679
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: Let's do a team that when people think of when

680
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: they think of this team, they think conservative. But that's

681
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: on the field.

682
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh oh, hold on, I just want to point

683
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: out to people that a lot of these a lot

684
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: of this money is spent, Like when these numbers get high,

685
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: it is on plane travel. It is on private planes

686
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: for coaches, because some of these schools only send their

687
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: head coaches on private planes where and then they send

688
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: their assistance economy and all of that kind of stuff

689
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: where they drive and all this stuff. But for the

690
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: bigger programs, the assistance even fly private sometimes or the

691
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: majority of time.

692
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then very rarely, very rarely, it's on things

693
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: for the actual business, like they're handing kids bags of cash.

694
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: It's that like it's the food at the restaurant. I

695
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: think for arch Manning's recruiting visit, they like booked a

696
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: cruise or like a boat a boat trip and all

697
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 2: the liquor for the adults. Ye, was part of that spin.

698
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: So let's go with Let's go with someone who was

699
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: in the Big ten last year, and when you think them,

700
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: you think conservative. Let's go University of Iowa. What do

701
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: you think their twenty twenty three recruit spend was.

702
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Now that I know that Oregon spent three million, let's

703
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: go with one point four.

704
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: One point four million, okay, two point two four million dollars.

705
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh, so they spent more on that than they actually

706
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: spent investigating their their offense and you know, and try

707
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: trying to put a better offense together. Good.

708
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume that most of that recruiting spind

709
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: went to the defensive side of the ball.

710
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, let's.

711
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: Stay in the big ten, and let's go with the

712
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: team that is known for just having the most wild

713
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: and invested fan base. University of Nebraska.

714
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Oh, I think they spent some bread, bro. I'm gonna

715
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: put them right around my Oregon Ducks, but slightly above.

716
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: Let's go if Oregon was at three million, that's put

717
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: them at like three point one.

718
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: Two point nine to one million dollars. You're pretty close. Okay,

719
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: pretty close. All right, let's jump over to the sec

720
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: where it just means more. Let's go big hitter right

721
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: out of the gate. Let's go University of Georgia.

722
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 1: They are they are number one. O. They were number

723
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: one last time we did this, but I do believe

724
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Texas probably trumped them because they did some wild stuff.

725
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put them at number two at like,

726
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: and you said the five million was an outlier, so

727
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: let's go so I thought, so?

728
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So I thought so I thought five million was

729
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: an outlier, But I just clicked on University of Georgia's profile.

730
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so Georgia. So then we will put Georgia at

731
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: number two then, because I believe that Texas probably usurped them,

732
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: with some ridiculous things that they did, especially with the

733
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: arch manning recruitment. So we will go five point one.

734
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, this is on me for giving you bad information.

735
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: Seven point four to six million.

736
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: You get what though? Fuck? Seven million dollars?

737
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: Seven and a half?

738
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh, what are they doing? Are everybody like Chip Kelly?

739
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: They must be? They must be a lobster right when

740
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: you hop off the plane, a lobster when you get

741
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 2: back on the plane. God, what are those what are those?

742
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Like those eggs?

743
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: Everything? They're only recruiting for the most part in like

744
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: eight states that are bordering what like like the majority

745
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: of recruits drive there.

746
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 2: So let's compare that. Then I'm gonna give you one

747
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: more team from the SEC Alabama.

748
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give them the five point three.

749
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: Four point one million dollars.

750
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird because Alabama is kind of fiscally a

751
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: little more fiscally responsible because Nick Saban kind of recruited

752
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: himself a little bit.

753
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: And also all that money went to Nick Saban and

754
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 2: the boosters paying for his housing and his guest house,

755
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: and you know, eleven million dollars worth five million dollars

756
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: in perks because they knew they'd have to funnel that

757
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: money into recruiting. M all right, let's go acc Let's

758
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: go acc since we haven't done that yet. The big

759
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: boys in the ACCU Miami first and then Clemson second.

760
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Miami, I think that they blew the I think

761
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: they blew the bag. They're well over for that. They're

762
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: in the four million dollars range. Four and a half.

763
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: Well, we don't actually get to know anything.

764
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's a private school. Dammit, that was

765
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: a trick question. I knew that. So Miami USC you're

766
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to know the answer to those.

767
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: We can speculate that it might be around Alabama level,

768
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: maybe more.

769
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: Yes, correct, Yes, that's that's for sure. They christ Baul

770
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: got the pocketbooks open over there. And I just want

771
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: to point out his comment where he was talking, you

772
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: see the trajectory of this team and this bro, you

773
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: got a transfer quarterback, if you get a regular quarterback,

774
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: you ain't Your trajectory ain't looking like this.

775
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, no, came mord is responsible for

776
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: at least three of those wins. Yes, now, and don't

777
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, and this was twenty twenty three, so whatever

778
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: it is, in twenty twenty four. You gotta assume cam

779
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: Ward took up a big jest. But let's go with Clemson.

780
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: Clemson is the other like ACC Juggernaut. Now they don't

781
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: do the portal, so this is just high school recruiting.

782
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: What do you think Clemson's budget.

783
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: Was Clemson, Clinton spends money. They spend money recruiting. They

784
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: are in that high four million dollar territory four point

785
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: eight four million dollars. You nailed it, absolutely high as hell. Yes,

786
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: because he like, we're gonna spend all the money on

787
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: high school recruit we spend it no money on a portal.

788
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: Very true. Let's go one last one. You give me

789
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: the school one that you think, one that you think

790
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: is maybe a lot higher than people would realize.

791
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: TCU TCU, Yeah, all right, I think they're higher than

792
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: I think TCU and not not not Baylor, but uh,

793
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: I think TCU is higher than people would probably think.

794
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: TCU is another one of those that we don't get

795
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: to know. I forget because they're there. Christian School, although

796
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: you've got you had, Texas was in there last year,

797
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: Oklahoma was in there last year.

798
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma spent less than people probably would.

799
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: Think Okay, you think Oklahoma is under four below Nebraska.

800
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: Nebraka below Oh no, no, no, no, no no, I think

801
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: they're above Nebraska. But yeah they're under four million. I

802
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: give them under three and a half million.

803
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready?

804
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: Yep?

805
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: Five point six.

806
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't know shit, I don't know anything clearly, clearly.

807
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know. I don't know. I don't know

808
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: anything clearly.

809
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: For anybody who wants to look this stuff up, it's

810
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Knight new House Data dot org. Night like Knight in

811
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: Shining Armor, new House Data dot org.

812
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: Perfect. All right, h can you tell me about this

813
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger article as it related to Pittsburgh.

814
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so pitt is seven and zero and when you

815
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: get to this point in the season and you're undefeated, Uh,

816
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: people start to wonder how did this happen? Narratives will

817
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: get narratives will get spun. Uh. People want to know,

818
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: right And Pat n er Dutsi's an interesting guy because

819
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: he's been very outspoken on the portal on tampering. You know,

820
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: he he didn't he had the opportunity to replace his

821
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: oc with Brennan Marion. He didn't like him or his

822
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: vibe and he said no, and and after not bringing

823
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: in Brendan Marion, he had an offensive staff that he

824
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: wasn't super impressed by. So ross Ellinger interviewed patn R

825
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: Duty and the leadoff quote in this is is pretty wild.

826
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: So the title of the article is howd pattern or

827
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Duty turn around Pitt nil cuts, tough conversations and an

828
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: offensive overhaul. The lead quote from this is patn Er

829
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: Duty said, shit, I have to clean house. Yeah, so

830
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: he got rid of his entire offensive staff because they

831
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: won three games. He said they had a structure where

832
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: everyone was getting paid and that didn't work for us,

833
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: so we changed it. That that's Chris Bigle, a tech

834
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: entrepreneur in pitt Booster who founded the school's collective and

835
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: donated twenty million of his own money. So he said,

836
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: like we were paying everybody. Patn or Duty got rid

837
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: of the offensive staff. They changed the way that they

838
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: were compensating. And Patner Duty said, money's not what gets

839
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: you a championship. If it did, all these teams that

840
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: have spent all this freaking money would be good. Then

841
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 2: he name dropped Florida State and Michigan has spending money

842
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: and not winning. He said, I'd rather have hungry players.

843
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: You want to know how he got from three to

844
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: nine to now, that's how hungry players?

845
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Bro, that is crazy. That is crazy that he actually

846
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: said that. Now there's a lot of coaches who believe that,

847
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: but actually saying it is diabolical.

848
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: Yep. And he brought in Cade Bell from Western Carolina

849
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: with a motion, filled up tempo scheme, all purpose back,

850
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Desmond Reid obviously Eli Holstein from Alabama, and so you know,

851
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: they changed up the system. And yeah, I mean that's

852
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: you know, and some of these wins have been comeback,

853
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 2: which is interesting. Do you feel like do you feel

854
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: like because it's not like Pitt's been dominating, they've been winning,

855
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: you get credit for winning. All that matters is the

856
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: end result. I believe that. But the way in which

857
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: they're winning. Do you get to go out and call

858
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: out Florida State and Michigan when you do that?

859
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: No, No, when.

860
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: You're the back kid, when you're the cardiac Panthers.

861
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: Well listen, bro, you Pitt has not done enough, honestly

862
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: at this point in time, to be calling out anybody.

863
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: They got wins over Kent State, Cincy, West Virginia, Youngstown,

864
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: a bad North Carolina, Team cal and Syracuse. That's what

865
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: they got. They got the meet of this schedule coming up.

866
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: They got SMU, Clemson, Louisville, Boston College, and Virginia. They

867
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: could lose three games and finish the season eight and three. Yes,

868
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: it'd be a huge turnaround. But that ain't enough to

869
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: be talking shit.

870
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: But they did so, But it is. It is important.

871
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: I think for a lot of the people who run

872
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 2: collectives or affiliated with collectives that you can't just pay

873
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 2: everyone correct.

874
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: And people panic when they're talking about money. They get like,

875
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: oh my my god, this If we don't give a

876
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: given more, he's gonna leave. Leave, Then FAM leave And

877
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm of that same cut from that same cost. Here

878
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: is what we got for you. Here, Here is where

879
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: you rank with the with the rest of our players.

880
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: If you want to leave a good situation where we

881
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: love you, you're utilize all of these things for an extra

882
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: We're paying you five hundred thousand dollars. You want to

883
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: leave for six twenty five and have a questionable situation,

884
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: have at it, FAM, have at it, because we got

885
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: to keep these things in line where how our highest players,

886
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: our best players are making the most money. And then

887
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: we tear down from there.

888
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: But how do you tell? How do you tell if

889
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: somebody is about money and somebody's about process. I was

890
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: listening to an interview the other day with jud Apatow, right,

891
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: producer for all these major comedy films. He has no hobbies,

892
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: he spends no money. He's like, the cool thing for

893
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: me is if I if I want concert tickets, I

894
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: can get them. That's cool for me. But he's he's

895
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: probably got well over one hundred million dollars in the bank.

896
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 2: He has nothing, He has no things that he like

897
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: hones in on that, like money has changed his life.

898
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: How do you tell when a kid is like, okay,

899
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: with the fruit of their labor sitting in their bank account,

900
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: but it's not going to make them softer? How do

901
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: you tell?

902
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: You can tell by the way they work. You can

903
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: literally tell by the way they work. There are some

904
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: people when you give them a little bit of money, right,

905
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: it changes the way they work it. And it's obvious

906
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: to everybody who can see it. It's obvious. And and

907
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I've seen it many many times in the in the NFL,

908
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: and you guys have seen it too, Ralph, there are players,

909
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: how many times have you seen a dude get get

910
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: paid and you're like, oh cool, Like like, for instance,

911
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: let's look at T. J. Watt, who just signed one

912
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal like a year or two ago,

913
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: good example. Has that changed anything? Do you do you

914
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: believe that the organization even wondered like I wonder if

915
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna change change things?

916
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: No, but I bet you San Francisco forty nine ers

917
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: wondered about Brandon Ayuk. You know, you've pointed out, even

918
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: though you've pointed out that he what he did.

919
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: To get to this point was exactly what.

920
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, but he was very in the contract renegotiation.

921
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: He's very focused on the money.

922
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yours. When it's about the money, it's supposed

923
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: to be about the money. There's time for play and

924
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: there's a time for pay. But it's always obvious, Ralph

925
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: when you give a kid to money, because you give

926
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: him a little bit first, and then you're like, oh, okay, okay,

927
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: I see this hasn't changed anything. Like, for instance, I

928
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: would be terrified at this point in time, not of

929
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, because he's nowhere near extension worthy well extension time,

930
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: like he can't even get one for it until at

931
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: least another two seasons. I would be terrified to give

932
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors any money right now, despite how good he is.

933
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: Terrified because he's a baller on the field. But he

934
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: did stuff like not wearing the team issue gear when

935
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: he was inactive, went to a concert when he was

936
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol, like just stuff like that and was

937
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: kind of flippant about it. That scares me because if

938
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: I now give you thirty million dollars a year and

939
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: you know I'm married to you, now you'll be like ah.

940
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: But he still has time to mature past that. But

941
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm cautious of that. I'm always because

942
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of something first

943
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: test you out. Like, for instance, I know that there's

944
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: a so here, here's a story. There's a kid on

945
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: a current college football roster making seventy thousand dollars a month.

946
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: He was in a classroom. Teacher was talking to him,

947
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: didn't really have a positive experience, and he was like, bro,

948
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: you can't say nothing to me. I make way more

949
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: money than you do. Oh no. And now the kids

950
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: are absolutely ball are on the field, but every now

951
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: and then he does some he does some crazy stuff.

952
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: So the question is though, and now that particular coaches like, nah,

953
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: now it's time that it's time to get him up

954
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: out of here, despite him being a baller.

955
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think but that if if money is your

956
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: true north, once you get it, what's your motivation? Right?

957
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: So that's why that's why you don't see this with

958
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that often, because it's hard to be a poor

959
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: quarterback and make it through junior high, high school, college

960
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: and not you know, not have had the opportunities to

961
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: go to camps. Now I've had the opportunities to. You know,

962
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of a privileged like being a quarterback is

963
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: as close as you can get as being like a

964
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: baseball player, like your parents have to have the the

965
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: financial freedom and ability to get off work to go

966
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: to six games in a week, right while you're a

967
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: baseball So you know that a lot of quarterbacks, it

968
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: kind of weeds itself out over time because they didn't

969
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: really want for anything. So the ones who are about

970
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: the process, they rise to the top. Not every other

971
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: position on the football field is like that in my opinion.

972
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: And so you know, a defensive lineman, you know, what

973
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? When you actually take that hunger away,

974
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: that five thousand calorie day hunger goes away because they

975
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: can afford it, you know what happens, And so I

976
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: don't know, it's it's it's a really really interesting time.

977
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: But for for Pat and our duty to say like, no,

978
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know, we're gonna focus on who's hungry,

979
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't always result in going from three to nine

980
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: to seven and oh right away. Sometimes there's some growing pains.

981
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: That's a fact. All right. Now, let's get to the

982
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: picks in the games this this weekend, and there's a

983
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: bunch of games going on. We got the line has

984
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: moved on somebody these games. But we will start with

985
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: the Penn State hosting Ohio State nine am kickoffs. So

986
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna know the ending to this one easy. It

987
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: started out as a four point spread last Sunday and

988
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: now it's down to three for Ohio State. So that

989
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: appears that Drew Aller is going to play four Penn

990
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Penn State. Who do you like in this game? Ralph?

991
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm spooked by what USC did to to Penn State.

992
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: I thought they were this impenetrable defense and maybe at

993
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: home they will be but when I look at like

994
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: talented skill position players, Ohio State is above USC not

995
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: a quarterback everywhere else? Yeah, well debatable, right, There's those

996
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: are two good quarterbacks yeah, Will and Will Yeah, better receivers,

997
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: better running backs. And so I'm gonna take the buck Eyes.

998
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Buckeyes too. I will believe Penn

999
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: Steak can win this game. When Penn State wins this game.

1000
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: How far would you be willing to go? Because I

1001
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: think three is an easy take. It wasn't four at

1002
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: one point. How far would you be willing to go

1003
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: with this spread and still take the buck Eyes? A six,

1004
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe five and probably five and a half. Probably five

1005
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: and a half is about as far as I would go?

1006
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: How much hell is the losing coach gonna get in

1007
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: the media on Sunday Monday?

1008
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean, dude? It if if Ryan Day

1009
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: loses this football game, Ryan Day like his job is

1010
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: going to be on the line in that Indiana game.

1011
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: He will be fired if they lose. That is a

1012
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: if they lose to Penn State and then lose to Indiana,

1013
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: he has won one hundred percent getting fired because then

1014
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: they are going to miss the Codge football playoffs, he

1015
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: will be fire. They won't wait till the end of

1016
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: the season. They will wait till the brackets come out

1017
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: and then be like, ah, gone.

1018
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: I just had the most insane thought. What dude, No

1019
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 2: one in the world had ever heard of what Chip

1020
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: Kelly did until he did it, leaving UCLA over five

1021
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: million dollars a year to go run an offense somewhere.

1022
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: What if he knew? What if he knew that by

1023
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: the end of the season he was gonna be the

1024
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: head coach of the Ohio State Buck guys.

1025
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: But there's no way, There's no way, There's no way,

1026
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: because it would be his his offense that wasn't scoring

1027
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: that would have led them to losing though too, not

1028
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: against Oregon. It wasn't Yeah, true, true, they put up

1029
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: thirty one points.

1030
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we talked about you know you I

1031
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: It was.

1032
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: Like, and if they lose like thirty five, thirty eight

1033
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: in this game and then lose the Indiana game like

1034
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: forty two, forty forty five, that that could actually happen.

1035
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: The biggest complaint for Ohio State fans right now is

1036
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: their defense. Yeah, they don't believe Ryan Day has the

1037
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: ear of his own defense of Larry Johnson and gymnoles.

1038
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: M Ralph, I'll just go with interim interim. Yeah damn,

1039
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 1: that'd be crazy. Yeah. So, but so Ryan Ryan Day's

1040
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna be under a massive heater, like he's going to

1041
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: be on an ejecto seat. It'll go from warm to

1042
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: ejecto seat if they lose to Penn State, because like

1043
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: it'll turn that Indiana game into an ejective, like like

1044
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: they will tarmac him if he loses both of these games.

1045
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: But then for James Franklin, he's not gonna be fired

1046
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: if he loses close game. He's been recruiting. Well, they're

1047
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: like he'll be under fire from the national media. But

1048
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: but Penn State fans are just gonna be like, look,

1049
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: we just need to make some tweaks, which is probably

1050
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: the most reasonable answer, right because Jim Harbaugh couldn't get

1051
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: it done until Jim Harball could get it done. Even

1052
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: though he had some help, he couldn't get it done

1053
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: until until then. So all of these expectations that your

1054
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: coach is gonna be in the playoff every single year

1055
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: when national championships and every like, people are down on

1056
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 1: Dabbo right now. They had a good run and maybe

1057
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: he can rekindle it at some point in point in time.

1058
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: But firing a great coach is silliness to me. A

1059
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of times that you need an

1060
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: extended period where it's not happening. And Penn State, I

1061
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: think is actually in good shape with him. He's just

1062
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: got to figure out, you know, some explosive offense. If

1063
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Pence they get some explosive offense, they are going to

1064
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: be able to beat anybody every single year.

1065
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they they They got to feel at

1066
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: this point like they're a playmaking quarterback away from having

1067
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: having a generational rut from being what Georgia has been.

1068
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, Old Miss at Arkansas. This game started out

1069
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: on Sunday as Arkansas plus six. Now it's up to

1070
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I like Arkansas at seven and

1071
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: and at seven and a half because they've been losing

1072
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: games by one score games and that gives me. And

1073
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: it's not like Old Miss has just been out here

1074
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: just tearing the cover off of things. They yes, they

1075
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: beat up South Carolina bad, but then they lost to

1076
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: LSU and they beat Oklahoma, who's got no offense, by

1077
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: eight points. Arkansas can hang in this game, as long

1078
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: as they don't give up long touchdowns and force Old

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: Miss to try to score in the red zone because

1080
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,520
Speaker 1: they are terrible scoring in the red zone.

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: I personally feel like Ole Miss only has one problem one.

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: What's that they can't finish? That's it. Otherwise you're the

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01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: perfect football team to me. Really, Yeah, they're.

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01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: Their offense gets stagnant some sometimes where they they're not

1085
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: able to run the football. Lam Kiffin is always going

1086
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: to be able to put up yards passing like that,

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to stop.

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: But if you if you could design the perfect if

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: you could design the football team with two things being

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: top five in the Cuntree, two things being top five

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: in the country, would you not pick passing game and

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: uh and run defense?

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01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a top They're a top eight passing offense

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: and a top like they're like the top run defense

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01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,839
Speaker 2: in the country, aren't they? They're top four scoring defense?

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 2: How do they have two losses.

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: Ralph because they've played Furman, Middle Tennessee State and Wake

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: for Is, which they gave up a total of nine points. Too.

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01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: They only gave up three in South Carolina. The data is.

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: Less about them, and it's more about but even in

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: their losses, the data includes their losses passing yards.

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01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, but they also get four free they got

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: Furman Middle Tennessee State Wake in Georgia Southern. And then

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: Kentucky's offense is bad too, yeah it's and Oklahoma's offense

1107
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: is bad. They haven't played any good offenses.

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01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so then forget all that they have scored. They

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01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 2: have stopped other people scoring. Let's go on talent alone.

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: Does this bring us back to the hunger conversation? They did?

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: They take away some people's hunger.

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 1: No. I think that they built a collection, that there's

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: still a team that is jelling, that that they built

1114
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: a collection, that they built a roster and not a team,

1115
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: and that and now that Georgia game literally is probably

1116
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: for all the marbles, because if they have losses to Georgia,

1117
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: LSU and Kentucky on their roster, bro the the playoff

1118
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: could be toast.

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: I have to believe all miss can win by ten.

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01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: I have to, and I know that I don't always

1121
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: have to. Yeah, I'm a writer die and sometimes I die,

1122
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: So we'll miss by ten.

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: All right. Oregon started out at fourteen and a half

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: point favorites at Michigan. Now that line is the exact same.

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01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: I got the Oh I didn't. I didn't even tell

1126
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: you the old Miss game. Oh I said, I got Arkansas.

1127
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: This time, I got the Ducks minus fourteen and a half.

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01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: I would probably take this up to about seventeen.

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01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: Oregon's margin of victory is twenty one this year, and

1130
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: their competition has been pretty good, and that includes only

1131
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: the one point win over Ohio State. Right, So, I

1132
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: don't know what two quarterback systems from Michigan you think

1133
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: that could work.

1134
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: Well, well, I don't think it can work, especially when

1135
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: you know that one of them ain't gonna throw the football.

1136
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Alex Orgy's not throwing the football unless it's trying to

1137
01:11:54,960 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: surprise you. So when he comes in the game, you

1138
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a run play or some

1139
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: sort of Trickim Dickham pass play. And when Davis Warren

1140
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: is in the game, you know it's like a regular offense.

1141
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: And if you can confuse him, he will throw you

1142
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: the football happily, or he will just hold on to it.

1143
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: This is an optimal scenario for Oregon as long as

1144
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: they don't turn the football over and it'll give him

1145
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: a good hostile road environment because Michigan's fans are going

1146
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: to be turned up hoping for an upset, and then

1147
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: about halftime things will settle down a little bit.

1148
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: I worry that Dylan Gabriel turns the ball over a

1149
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: little too much. It's not that much, but it's like

1150
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: the only problem with the offense that exists.

1151
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had those two weird picks in the

1152
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: end zone against Michigan State and then the pick six

1153
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: at UCLA.

1154
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a contrarian on this

1155
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say I'm gonna take Michigan. But I

1156
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: do believe it'll be four I'm like, right in there

1157
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: on that edge of that half point is what I'm

1158
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: counting on. I think a fourteen.

1159
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: Point so the could be like thirteen or fourteen point win.

1160
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I because I keep thinking back to

1161
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: that drive that Michigan went on to beat USC Yeah,

1162
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: where they took ten minutes off the clock. If that

1163
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: happened once and that that kind of like. But I say,

1164
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: I would say no change. I would put my house

1165
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: on Oregon winning.

1166
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told I totally agree, totally agree with that,

1167
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: all right. We got Texas Tech plus fourteen and a

1168
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: half when it opened at Iowa State. That game is

1169
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: now down to thirteen, and I have for Iowa State.

1170
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand this line, so I'm taking Texas Tech, uh,

1171
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: because this makes no sense to me. I do not understand.

1172
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: How like when you watch Iowa State, nothing about their

1173
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: offense says we can We can score a lot of points.

1174
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: So it's like, yes, their defense is good, but Texas

1175
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: Tech can can score. I don't understand. If UCF put

1176
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: up thirty five, Baylor put up twenty one, how are

1177
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,919
Speaker 1: we thinking that this is gonna be a two score victory.

1178
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: I do not understand, Ralph, I.

1179
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: Don't I Iowa State has not impressed me yet this year.

1180
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: They got a really good shot out of ten wins,

1181
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 2: and I'm rooting for it personally. I want to see

1182
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: it happen. You do, But yeah, I mean, it's like

1183
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: the Cubs winning the World Series. It's got nothing to

1184
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: do with me. It's my team wasn't playing in that

1185
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: World Series. So yeah, I want to see the streak ends,

1186
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: you know. Same with the Red Sox. I would love

1187
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: to see one hundred year streak.

1188
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: In for well, one of us wants Texas Tech to

1189
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: win this game, and for a certain reason, even though

1190
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: totally out of the challenge.

1191
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 2: True, true, that's the team you stole from me. Texas

1192
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: Tech winning makes ASU look better. I suppose I think

1193
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: that I don't know Iowa State could win this game.

1194
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're as good as their seven

1195
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: and zero record. They don't they don't defend the run.

1196
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: They're passing defense, and they haven't played anybody they could pass,

1197
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: not a single team, not one yep. So that those

1198
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: numbers seem skewed to me. And while they move the

1199
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: ball on offense, they don't move the ball like keep

1200
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: up with somebody who's going to score forty yep. And yes,

1201
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: I am aware they just won a high scoring game.

1202
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: But correct, I don't know. This is way too big

1203
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: of a spread for me. Give me Texas Tech.

1204
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: All right. We got Pittsburgh plus seven and a half

1205
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: at SMU. Now that line is still the same text

1206
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: SMU's favorite by seven and a half at home. Excuse me,

1207
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: not at pitt at SMU. I think that pitt Last

1208
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: week when they played Syracuse, it felt like that they

1209
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: were listening to Syracuse's calls pre snap and knew exactly

1210
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: what they were gonna do. It was the most unbelievable.

1211
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: I have never seen defense play like just perfectly every

1212
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: single play. And I think that they are going that

1213
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: Pitt that the glass slipper falls off this weekend. Is

1214
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: Kevin Jennings healthy?

1215
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

1216
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's SMU's quarterback. So if he's healthy, give me SMU.

1217
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm checking real quick. But then, why do you Kevin

1218
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: Jennings medically cleared for pitch down?

1219
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: Yay, I'll take them seven and a half points, but

1220
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be right on the custer.

1221
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: This is either gonna be a seven point win or

1222
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: a ten point win for SMU.

1223
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 2: SMU did lose their best receiver.

1224
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: No matter they come, a diamond doesn't.

1225
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: And Kevin Jennings, if he is banged up, he does

1226
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: a lot of running. That could slow him down a

1227
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: little bit.

1228
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think Pitt's gonna come in overconfident after

1229
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: last game. They got the whole shark thing going. They

1230
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: think that hey they you know, they issue don't stink

1231
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: right right now, and they gonna catch that fade. They

1232
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: go catch it hell.

1233
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm I'm gonna give a piece offering

1234
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 2: to my least favorite online fan base, and I'm gonna

1235
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 2: pick pitt.

1236
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: All right. Well, you guys, those are the picks for

1237
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: this weekend. And you guys, this is the Unafraid Show.

1238
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: Make sure that you guys like, subscribe, share, tell a

1239
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: friend about the college football apostles. I'm George Reiser, He's

1240
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: Ralph Amsdon peace out. Catch you guys next week