Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Its way up at Angela. Yeah, I'm excited for this
Speaker 2: one because Blast is here in the building with me.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: You know I've been wanting to get you on this
Speaker 1: show for a while.
Speaker 2: My producer will tell you, and I know, like things
Speaker 2: have somehow never lined up properly.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that radar Now, he'll tell you. I'm I'm always
Speaker 2: like I really like Blast, I really like his music.
Speaker 2: Thank you and so and so this newest project, Labor
Speaker 2: of Love, is not a disappointment at all for me.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you. That means a lot. That means a
Speaker 3: lot coming from a legend like yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you're in a new chapter of your life,
Speaker 2: so congratulations on that too. You know what's fascinating to
Speaker 2: me that you manage yourself?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Not.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I was saying. I kind of manage
Speaker 2: myself too.
Speaker 3: It's not something that I like say with pride. It's
Speaker 3: just the reality of where I'm at right now, you know.
Speaker 3: But I still have a team around me that help me,
Speaker 3: you know, move around and make good decisions.
Speaker 2: Do you answer emails like yes, as yourself or do
Speaker 2: you pretend to be someone else.
Speaker 3: Well, I just don't say nothing, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: leave a name at the end of the message. I
Speaker 3: just say, you know, I just respond accordingly.
Speaker 1: Are you on point, like as far as somebody books
Speaker 1: you for something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on time. I stay on time, you know,
Speaker 3: I think. I I just respect professionalism. So that's just
Speaker 3: who I am as an artist in general.
Speaker 2: And just so y'all know he was here on time.
Speaker 2: And it's always a surprise to me. When you came in.
Speaker 2: They were like, Okay, Blast is in agreement, I say,
Speaker 2: on time and everything.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, we.
Speaker 3: Try to keep that reputation a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, let's discuss labor of love. You even started off
Speaker 2: with just something very poetic about love is more than
Speaker 2: a feeling. It's actual labor and showing up. And so
Speaker 2: when you talk about this love that you have, it's
Speaker 2: love for not just music and your career, but also
Speaker 2: for family, yeah, and other things as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fatherhood, you know, love for self, love for the
Speaker 3: relationship I'm in, you know, all of the above, and
Speaker 3: the work that goes into that word love, the labor
Speaker 3: behind it. Hence the title labor of love, because for love.
Speaker 3: Love for me is more than just the feeling. It's
Speaker 3: the sacrifice and everything that goes behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to say, judging from this album,
Speaker 2: it feels like you're argumentative.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Wow, that's the energy you picked up.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you like to argue?
Speaker 3: I like to have a good debate, a healthy debate.
Speaker 3: That's what I would like to frame it.
Speaker 2: As you know, it feels like there's some fussing going
Speaker 2: on but you. But it also feels like you're the
Speaker 2: type of person that will get right back into bed
Speaker 2: with your lady and act like nothing happened in spoon,
Speaker 2: that's is that who you are?
Speaker 3: I like the spoon I say that, but you know,
Speaker 3: I don't like to act as if nothing happened though,
Speaker 3: you know, I like to move on. I like, of course,
Speaker 3: I like to move and I like to, you know,
Speaker 3: make sure everything that do happen don't define our entire relationship.
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe maybe an argument is what I do,
Speaker 3: just my immature version of myself and learning how to communicate.
Speaker 3: But it's not something that I want to be defined as.
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't say you're defined as that, but
Speaker 2: some people do Like I tell my man his love languages.
Speaker 1: He does like to like beef a little bit with me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he get a kick out of that.
Speaker 1: And then I think guys like to do that and
Speaker 1: then they like to make up.
Speaker 3: That's funny. I feel like girls just like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like.
Speaker 3: It's not spicy unless you got something to fight for.
Speaker 3: That's how y'all look at relationships now.
Speaker 2: I know that you've consciously slowed down, like touring, and
Speaker 2: it's been two years since you put your last project out,
Speaker 2: and I have to think that's also label changes and
Speaker 2: things like that. Was it like logistical but also family time.
Speaker 3: Man, it was a lot of things that went into
Speaker 3: that really just you know, locking in with myself and
Speaker 3: you know, financial ups and downs and restructuring my team
Speaker 3: and just locking in with how I want my future
Speaker 3: to be in general. So I think when you wearing
Speaker 3: a lot of hats, it kind of slow you down
Speaker 3: as a creative because you playing the you know, the
Speaker 3: business side too. But I think in actuality kind of
Speaker 3: helped me more than it hindered me because it gave
Speaker 3: me a more aligned focus on what I really want
Speaker 3: from the game and what I want to put in
Speaker 3: the universe instead of just making music that feel and
Speaker 3: sound good.
Speaker 2: People from the outside looking in would not think you
Speaker 2: have financial ups and downs man, because you've had so
Speaker 2: much success not just as a solo artist, but also
Speaker 2: on other people, you know, songs as a guest artist,
Speaker 2: also touring, also the accolades.
Speaker 1: Like for me on the outside looking in, I would
Speaker 1: think it was straight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from like that's a that's a good point.
Speaker 3: You know, every superhero go through something, and I think
Speaker 3: for me, as I gained success, my overhead got bigger too.
Speaker 3: So it's not I make I still make money, but
Speaker 3: my overhead is up there and a lot more exactly so.
Speaker 2: And that independent grind is also different. It's not like
Speaker 2: someone's handing you a budget.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you got to put up your own money,
Speaker 3: it's like you bet on yourself every play. So it's
Speaker 3: not like, you know, somebody just fronting you a million
Speaker 3: dollars and you get to play around and have room
Speaker 3: to just make a mistake. It's like every mistake I
Speaker 3: make is gonna hit me harder than you know, just
Speaker 3: another person that got the bag from somebody else.
Speaker 2: Going to independent route, would you say no, pun intended
Speaker 2: that was chosen or is it something.
Speaker 3: That I think for me, I can't help but to
Speaker 3: acknowledge the ones that came before me, like the Nipsey Hustles,
Speaker 3: you know, and just the culture that I come from.
Speaker 3: It's about betting on yourself because I feel it's much
Speaker 3: more valuable when you take that risk and learn from
Speaker 3: your own mistakes. And I just applied that naturally. It
Speaker 3: wasn't something intentional, but I just knew how I wanted
Speaker 3: to create leverage, and I understood that this was a
Speaker 3: business from a jump, So that was my mentality.
Speaker 1: Other than this, what were you doing like before?
Speaker 3: Before music?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, I was just running around being the kid. But
Speaker 3: I started making music while I was a kid, around
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen, so this was always the thing. Outside of that,
Speaker 3: I was probably just skateboarding, you know, just being a
Speaker 3: little bad kid.
Speaker 1: Are you still good at that?
Speaker 3: Hell? No, it's too late for that now.
Speaker 1: Well you say it's too late, you're still Yeah.
Speaker 3: Once I broke my ankle, it was over with.
Speaker 2: I was watching I'm sure you don't watch the show,
Speaker 2: but I was watching The Ultimatum. I don't know why
Speaker 2: this is so funny to me? But one of the
Speaker 2: guys on the show broke both of his legs at
Speaker 2: the same time because he tried to do a backflip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was me for Shure.
Speaker 1: And he said no going back from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you know, once you get older, your bones
Speaker 3: just don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody trying to play basketball, get back on the court.
Speaker 1: It's over.
Speaker 3: You out for two weeks. You got to take off work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have time for that. It's over with now.
Speaker 2: This is a very personal album, labor of love, because
Speaker 2: you did everything for it, rote produced, yes, right, and
Speaker 2: that was something intentional also, or was it just like
Speaker 2: I don't have time to wait for other people?
Speaker 3: It was intentional in a sense that I wanted every
Speaker 3: piece to feel like it came from an authentic place
Speaker 3: and you know, the sound that people fell in love
Speaker 3: or blast for. In my early days, when my name
Speaker 3: first started getting in a game from No Love Loss,
Speaker 3: I was heavily producing every song too, you know. So
Speaker 3: I just wanted to circle back to the roots and
Speaker 3: just get a fans exactly what they loved me for.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just got to get a people what they.
Speaker 1: Want, right, Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's good to experiment with different sounds,
Speaker 2: but it's a you know, it's hard because you want
Speaker 2: to please your fans, but you also want to have
Speaker 2: the freedom to move around through different types of genres.
Speaker 3: And I did that too, as far as like experiencing
Speaker 3: different sounds, different genres, working with other producers, because that's
Speaker 3: what you tend to do as you gained success and
Speaker 3: move around the industry, you start working and collaborate with
Speaker 3: different people. But for this project, I wanted it to
Speaker 3: feel like me and have something that I can be
Speaker 3: proud proud of ten years from now.
Speaker 2: You know, you know that's song on their Home that's
Speaker 2: a how was that writing that? Because reliving certain things
Speaker 2: that have happened from your youth and then now seeing
Speaker 2: this happen to you as an adult, like I know
Speaker 2: you weren't in the house, yeah when there was a
Speaker 2: home invasion, but even having a decision to put that
Speaker 2: on the album.
Speaker 3: Man, yeah, I think it's more healing now that I
Speaker 3: look back at it. But you know, it's funny because
Speaker 3: being in New York, it made me feel eerie every
Speaker 3: time because I was in New York when it had happened.
Speaker 3: But it was it was a moment that I'm proud
Speaker 3: of as I look back, because it's like I could
Speaker 3: turn my pain into art for not only me, but
Speaker 3: for my son too, because we both went through a
Speaker 3: traumatic experience around the same age, and it kind of
Speaker 3: made me look at it through a kid's eyes, but
Speaker 3: also now that I'm an adult, I could look at
Speaker 3: it from a you know, a wider point of view,
Speaker 3: you know. So I think it was dope to connect
Speaker 3: with my son on that and kind of just be
Speaker 3: an example of a superhero, like, yeah, we can go
Speaker 3: through things and things gonna happen. This is a part
Speaker 3: of life. It's gonna be ups and downs, but you
Speaker 3: got to learn how to adapt to your circumstances.
Speaker 2: Man, that home invasion stuff in La, it's crazy. It's crazy,
Speaker 2: you know. Me Being from New York, people have always
Speaker 2: act like New York is so dangerous. But I feel
Speaker 2: like La is a different type of like the things
Speaker 2: that happen is different than here.
Speaker 3: Every city got their own things.
Speaker 2: Because it's more spread out. I think that's part of
Speaker 2: it too. It's more spread out, like our houses are attached,
Speaker 2: We're so in close quarters that it's something happens. People
Speaker 2: really like if somebody does something in my house and
Speaker 2: god hate but I feel like there's so many people
Speaker 2: that would see that happening, and the neighbors, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me it's kind of crazy because
Speaker 3: I felt like I moved out the hood, so to speak.
Speaker 3: But you know, shit like that still happened, and I
Speaker 3: became even more of a target actually, But also it
Speaker 3: kind of helped me develop a relationship with my neighborhood,
Speaker 3: even though I'm the rapper on the block.
Speaker 1: Now you know, you're on the block association. Do y'all
Speaker 1: have that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Damn near. We all got a group, a group
Speaker 3: thread and all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta do that. And there's nothing better
Speaker 1: than feeling like the neighborhood's looking out.
Speaker 3: Nah. For sure, it's good to be a part of
Speaker 3: the community.
Speaker 2: When they're like, do you see this just happen? And
Speaker 2: I have the citizens app that'd be always having me.
Speaker 3: I got that too.
Speaker 1: I got to take it off for a little while
Speaker 1: because I was like.
Speaker 3: For sure, you gotta you gotta be careful how much
Speaker 3: you tend to it.
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about some of the songs that I
Speaker 2: love on this album. I like something about it that
Speaker 2: gives me a good feeling, like a good vibe, like
Speaker 2: a you know, old school, old school.
Speaker 1: What's old school love to you?
Speaker 3: Old school love to me is? It's probably not you,
Speaker 3: you know, it probably goes against with the now is.
Speaker 3: But for me, it's just about being a provider, you know,
Speaker 3: making your woman laugh, making her feel good, and just
Speaker 3: taking care of the household. You kind of control the
Speaker 3: temperature of what's going on. So in that song, it's
Speaker 3: kind of me being humorous, you know, and just not
Speaker 3: letting the small things be a distraction to what we
Speaker 3: really have going on overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been together for how long now with.
Speaker 3: Your girl over ten years?
Speaker 2: So that's quite a transition in your life from where
Speaker 2: you were ten years ago to where you are now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how is that?
Speaker 2: Growing together and seeing like how you've evolved? And I'm
Speaker 2: sure she has too.
Speaker 3: Man, we was kids together, you know, so it's every
Speaker 3: day is a growing pain, especially when you've been with
Speaker 3: somebody through your twenties and coming of success too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, so you sometimes you feel like, okay, was
Speaker 3: I'm missing out on some things? But I think, you know,
Speaker 3: having somebody that can identify you being a human and
Speaker 3: you growing.
Speaker 1: And you know why they're there too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and understanding that you know they have their own
Speaker 3: individual purpose. I think it's everything for me, and that's
Speaker 3: all I ask for. I'm obviously not perfect, she not perfect,
Speaker 3: but every day we figure out how to be imperfect together.
Speaker 1: I promise you you don't want to go back out
Speaker 1: there anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nothing outside for me.
Speaker 2: There's nothing outside for you, because imagine having to start
Speaker 2: all over and you don't know.
Speaker 3: Like that's my biggest fear. Every time we argue and
Speaker 3: I feel like, all right, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck.
Speaker 3: Nothing outside.
Speaker 2: And you know, for her too, like you guys have
Speaker 2: two sons together. Y'all been together for so long. She
Speaker 2: knows you better than anybody. I can't even imagine what
Speaker 2: it must feel like to be famous and then try
Speaker 2: to date somebody, you know, brand new.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's scary. It's the thought of it is scary
Speaker 3: a long because you know you want something real, and
Speaker 3: that's the closest thing I got to something real, Like
Speaker 3: she knew me before any anybody knew who Blast was.
Speaker 3: So how can you replace that?
Speaker 1: Now? The album cover?
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that artwork too, because that's
Speaker 2: something that was important for you as well. Uh, that
Speaker 2: is a house that your grandfather built, that was your
Speaker 2: childhood home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, my childhood home on the east side of
Speaker 3: LA to be specific. And yeah, my grandpa he moved
Speaker 3: from Louisiana to Oakland and then they stopped in LA
Speaker 3: and that's where my foundation was. You know, he made
Speaker 3: a house for a kid like me to be a dreamer.
Speaker 3: So the house is you know, sentimental for me just
Speaker 3: to go back and connect to my roots and have
Speaker 3: it as a symbol of what I feel love is.
Speaker 1: Does he still live there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he still lived there. He's stay in the back.
Speaker 1: A nice house. And you said he built it with
Speaker 1: his own hands.
Speaker 3: See everybody say that it might be the way that
Speaker 3: I'm saying it in the but no, he definitely hired
Speaker 3: people to do. Probably have it a nail or we're
Speaker 3: gonna act like he did.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember buying your first home?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. It was it was a leap of faith.
Speaker 3: It was a leap of faith. It was right after
Speaker 3: no love loss, so I was going crazy. I had
Speaker 3: the song chosen, you know that took me over to
Speaker 3: it took me from blast to blast.
Speaker 1: You like, thank you.
Speaker 3: TikTok, Thank you TikTok, changing my life. But yeah, it
Speaker 3: was a beautiful home and I still own it to
Speaker 3: this day. So I'm proud to say that.
Speaker 2: You know, you talk about Chosen and what a big
Speaker 2: song that was for you. Sometimes though, people have a
Speaker 2: huge song like that and then it's hard to when
Speaker 2: you think you have to like top that.
Speaker 1: Were you thinking that at that time?
Speaker 3: Nah? I think it was like a cherry on top
Speaker 3: because that was my first project. So for me, I
Speaker 3: wasn't even expecting that type of success. So when it came,
Speaker 3: it was just like, okay, let's just right the wave.
Speaker 3: I think over time, you know, you start having conversations
Speaker 3: and people try to put it in your brain like Okay,
Speaker 3: you got Chosen, it's double platinum, what you're gonna do next?
Speaker 3: But for me, I had a foundation before Chosen, Like
Speaker 3: I had a fan base before Chosen from the sixth
Speaker 3: tape to Know No Love Lost, and the Chosen was
Speaker 3: on a deluxe, so it just added to the momentum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean things like that.
Speaker 2: Labels try to make it happen and do campaigns and
Speaker 2: figure out ways but that just went on its own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's good for leverage. Luckily, you know,
Speaker 3: my next deal was right after that, so I was
Speaker 3: in position to say, Okay, now I want to do this.
Speaker 3: I want to do this, and I got a bigger bag.
Speaker 3: But you know, ever since then, I've just been continued.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like to look at music like
Speaker 3: I got to chase a hit, just like making a
Speaker 3: body of working connected with the fans one by one.
Speaker 2: You know what I like about this album. First of all,
Speaker 2: it's always totally my vibe. I love a good R
Speaker 2: and B, but it's got a hip hop type of
Speaker 2: vibe to it. Yeah, that's the kind of music that
Speaker 2: I enjoy listening to, like when I'm not at work anyway,
Speaker 2: And you know, we played this on the radio too.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the song work Work feature and shying right.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's one of the ones that give you that
Speaker 3: real deal that a lot of people don't talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, because my father was damn near a rolling stone.
Speaker 3: He got three baby mamas, and I was just you know,
Speaker 3: spelling that I don't want to be a fruit of
Speaker 3: that tree, you know, just trying to change the generational curse,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure a lot of people can connect to it.
Speaker 1: And you're the youngest, right, the youngest.
Speaker 3: The youngest boy. I had three older sisters, two older
Speaker 3: brothers and not even grow up with him, you know,
Speaker 3: And I feel like family is important, so I just
Speaker 3: try to, you know, change the generational curse and keep
Speaker 3: my family tight knit.
Speaker 2: How what did your mom used to say to you
Speaker 2: about your dad growing up? Because I know that's tough
Speaker 2: to being a mom. And like you said, your dad
Speaker 2: was a rolling stone kind of, I.
Speaker 3: Mean I wasn't. I probably was exaggerating by stone. He
Speaker 3: definitely was getting active at an exact age. He had
Speaker 3: his first kid when he was fifteen. Wow, so he
Speaker 3: was outside, you know.
Speaker 1: But so your oldest sibling is how.
Speaker 3: Old she got to be her fifty? Wow?
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, she's kind of up there, okay,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I forgot the initial.
Speaker 2: Oh what did your mom used to say to you
Speaker 2: about your dad growing up?
Speaker 1: I know he was trying it in your life.
Speaker 3: But she didn't really Like my mom is cool, like
Speaker 3: she don't really judge people, you know, So he was
Speaker 3: just doing his thing. He was kind of just like
Speaker 3: if I had to describe my dad, he just like
Speaker 3: he's so light. Everything is a joke, Like he don't
Speaker 3: take nothing serious. So that's where the friction came with
Speaker 3: my mom, Like she wanted to build a foundation as
Speaker 3: a family, and he was just every moment was the moment,
Speaker 3: like he didn't plan for the future. So that's the
Speaker 3: only thing that I can think of. But I think
Speaker 3: him living in a moment so much, she probably got
Speaker 3: tired of that. You know, my mom is more structured
Speaker 3: and she cared about foundation, So it just didn't a
Speaker 3: line in the long run.
Speaker 1: And you did live with your dad for a while too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. In my high school years, I have
Speaker 3: moved an hour away from la and I think it
Speaker 3: changed my life. It gave me the opportunity to focus
Speaker 3: on one thing at a time because it was a
Speaker 3: lot of isolation out there and not a lot of
Speaker 3: people that looked like me. So it gave me the
Speaker 3: opportunity to fall in love with something different than just
Speaker 3: what was in my neighborhood. I started skateboarding and doing
Speaker 3: things like that, and then I fell in love with
Speaker 3: music and it made me hone in on my craft
Speaker 3: because I had a lot of time on my hands.
Speaker 1: You know, is that where you first started doing music?
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were like, Okay, let's get on this laptop,
Speaker 2: Let's get on this lab.
Speaker 3: And I was just teaching myself on YouTube, watching Ryan
Speaker 3: Leslie Forharrell Timmelin in the studio, teaching myself how to produce.
Speaker 3: And next thing, you know, Blast came about.
Speaker 1: What were you singing about back then?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the same. I was always a lover boy,
Speaker 3: So even if I didn't have no wisdom about relationships,
Speaker 3: I was still speaking on it because it was just
Speaker 3: something that I naturally cared. I don't know why, but
Speaker 3: maybe because I had all older sisters, but I just
Speaker 3: love love.
Speaker 1: Were you very sensitive in relationships?
Speaker 2: Like? What were you like back then when it came?
Speaker 2: Since you were a lover boy? Were you always having
Speaker 2: a girlfriend?
Speaker 3: And I got I got played so many times in
Speaker 3: my early relationships. I was definitely a sucker for love too,
Speaker 3: and I think over time it kind of turned me
Speaker 3: to a savage. Like in my mid love era.
Speaker 2: They always say that a woman could make a man
Speaker 2: turn a man into a savage.
Speaker 3: Careful what I there? Man? It's some good ones out
Speaker 3: there that you can you know taint, you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm one of the ones that y'all messed up.
Speaker 1: So like what type of things happened to you?
Speaker 3: It can go it go crazy. Like where as a
Speaker 3: sixteen year old kid, I remember I had a girlfriend
Speaker 3: in high school and she turned she was a drug addict.
Speaker 3: Oh whoa, and I had That's how I found out,
Speaker 3: Like in high school and the dude that was I
Speaker 3: don't even know if this is ready your friendly, that's okay,
Speaker 3: but yeah PG. Thirteen version, she was doing her thing
Speaker 3: with the drug dealer that she was addicted to. Wow,
Speaker 3: buying drugs from you.
Speaker 1: Know, how did you find that out?
Speaker 3: It was a whole It was like a euphoria movie scene.
Speaker 2: That's a wild and you had no idea. You had
Speaker 2: no idea that she was.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, and that at that.
Speaker 2: Young of an age too. That's I wonder what was
Speaker 2: going on in her household.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had another uh my prom day. Actually on
Speaker 3: prom night, we went to the hotel after you know,
Speaker 3: when you in high school, you get a little hotel
Speaker 3: to have a little kickback. She was doing her thing
Speaker 3: in the bathroom with a whole nother.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's the story of Blast. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of healing I'm going through.
Speaker 1: How did you find that out?
Speaker 3: You found that I was there? What you mean how
Speaker 3: I fund out?
Speaker 1: So somebody told you?
Speaker 3: Are you? I was there, I heard it, I witnessed it.
Speaker 3: It was no no care for Blast.
Speaker 1: My gosh. So then you just went home after that.
Speaker 3: I had to thug it out. I have to thug
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 1: I know what. This all probably helped you do some music,
Speaker 1: if you think about.
Speaker 3: It, some stories to tell, for sure. They're still unfolding
Speaker 3: as we go.
Speaker 2: So then how did you manage to fall in love
Speaker 2: with with your lady now and basically link up and
Speaker 2: say this is it?
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever said this was it. It
Speaker 3: was just something that we just developed over time. You know,
Speaker 3: you trust is built and it could be broken overnight.
Speaker 3: So I think for me, it's it's a precious thing
Speaker 3: that I take serious and every day matters like something
Speaker 3: can go wrong tomorrow. So I just try to live
Speaker 3: in each moment and be aware of the love that
Speaker 3: we do have, because nothing is nothing lasts forever anyway,
Speaker 3: you know, we on borrow time, and even our relationship
Speaker 3: is not going to be forever, once I go or
Speaker 3: once she go, or if we go while we're still alive, Like,
Speaker 3: we can't control we can only control ourselves. So I
Speaker 3: just try to treat every moment like it's the last moment.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we don't think about what men have gone through
Speaker 2: when it comes to relationships, you know. I think for women,
Speaker 2: we're used to like, oh he cheated on me, he
Speaker 2: did this to me, But we don't think about men
Speaker 2: and having gone through having some type of trauma from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, as a man, it's kind
Speaker 3: of you kind of look weak when you when I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure it'll be a tough man that would never
Speaker 3: tell the stories I just told and they just regular
Speaker 3: little high school stories. But yeah, men go through things too,
Speaker 3: But it's not like you looked at as a superhero
Speaker 3: to tell those stories, like okay, tough enough and keep going.
Speaker 1: Well, the only thing that would be crazy is if
Speaker 1: you stayed with her after that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, did you?
Speaker 1: I just had a double check.
Speaker 2: Okay, that'd have been like all right, blast, we gotta
Speaker 2: talk that.
Speaker 3: I ain't that much of a fool that.
Speaker 2: Being said, the song sent your way? Can we talk
Speaker 2: about how you wrote that since this is a personal
Speaker 2: album and you wrote everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, since your Way is actually about the pressures of
Speaker 3: feeling like you gotta get married.
Speaker 1: You see what I was leading up to.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I see where you're going. You're good at
Speaker 3: you good at your job. But it came from my
Speaker 3: grandpa actually telling me, like or asking me, like, when
Speaker 3: you go get married? And that was the only successful
Speaker 3: marriage I have ever experienced was my grandpa and my
Speaker 3: grandma and they've been married for like fifty years within
Speaker 3: my family. And then at this age, I start going
Speaker 3: to more weddings, like people from high school, see my friend,
Speaker 3: my younger friends getting married. So it kind of sparked
Speaker 3: that like thought of like damn, should I be getting married?
Speaker 3: Or like have I been going to getst the grand
Speaker 3: So it's just a it's like an open conversation. It's
Speaker 3: no answer to it, but it's like a question to
Speaker 3: my girl, like what happens if I take my time?
Speaker 1: Well you have been yeah I have. That's true though
Speaker 1: those weddings.
Speaker 2: Going with your girl to a wedding will make y'all
Speaker 2: start thinking like that was beautiful, and then you start
Speaker 2: sitting there, there's no way you don't picture like if
Speaker 2: that's you know what I'm saying, there's no way you
Speaker 2: don't think about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 1: Is it something that you are considering at least? Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: I think I think marriage, well I have two ways
Speaker 3: of viewing it, but I think I love love and
Speaker 3: I think marriage is a celebration of that. So that's
Speaker 3: what I do appreciate. But when it comes to like
Speaker 3: the paperwork and it's still a business, and I think
Speaker 3: that kind of hinders my like my urgency. If you
Speaker 3: want to say, yeah, you know, but if we could
Speaker 3: just celebrate and say we're married, then I'm down for that.
Speaker 3: We can do that right.
Speaker 1: Now, some type of like promise ring or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, like you never, sometimes we think about things
Speaker 2: and it just take one thing to make you be like,
Speaker 2: you know what. Sometimes it's the kids being like when
Speaker 2: are you guys gonna you know, they see that at
Speaker 2: school and they come home and ask you. And I've
Speaker 2: heard people say that yeah, or like why does a
Speaker 2: mommy have the same last name?
Speaker 3: Or I never experienced that yet, so maybe that'll spark.
Speaker 2: My you know, now everybody's asking about tourm So because
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 3: The comments, how you see you lying?
Speaker 1: I'm serious.
Speaker 3: You asked to go to my paper.
Speaker 1: Are you going on tour? I do my own research.
Speaker 3: And shout out to you. I am going on tour.
Speaker 3: It's a work in progress right now. But yeah, that's
Speaker 3: all I can say right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you have your working on setting that up
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you're going to have some good supporting.
Speaker 2: You could do this on your own though, if you
Speaker 2: chose to.
Speaker 3: You know, I really want to go on somebody. I've
Speaker 3: been torn headlining my own tour since I started, and
Speaker 3: I've never been on the road with somebody else. So
Speaker 3: that's something I've been thinking about too.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're give him more hints.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 2: Who would you like to be with if you were like,
Speaker 2: who do you think would be a good match.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is what's happening, but I'm just.
Speaker 3: Asking a good match.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes put things in the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: I think like a Brent fires Oh.
Speaker 2: Girl, Kayla, we were just saying that you have like
Speaker 2: a Brent Faires type of like both of you kind
Speaker 2: of would mesh well together.
Speaker 1: That's so that's the one person we said.
Speaker 3: That's the only person I could think about right now. Oh,
Speaker 3: I will have to.
Speaker 1: Ask y'all, No, I swear to you. We both.
Speaker 2: This is Kayla who works with us, and I promise
Speaker 2: you before you came in here, we were talking about
Speaker 2: you know, he's like they kind of would go well together.
Speaker 2: Not that y'all sound alike, but and then also like
Speaker 2: the whole independent.
Speaker 1: Vibe and the whole way you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I respect his career for sure, how he got
Speaker 3: it out the mud and created his own lane.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Would you want to do some type of deal or
Speaker 2: is that something because I know you're an empire now,
Speaker 2: but that's still independent. You own all your own masters, right,
Speaker 2: I saw you talking about that. Yeah, but is this
Speaker 2: something that you are working towards because I know after
Speaker 2: empire a lot of times artists will go and do
Speaker 2: something like a major. I mean, you're doing so well
Speaker 2: on your own, but I'm not in.
Speaker 3: I think what's more important is creating your own team,
Speaker 3: because I don't look at a major like they're going
Speaker 3: to change my life.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think having a solid team management it's the
Speaker 3: most important thing, you know, at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: When you partner with a label, they just give you
Speaker 3: a plan of what they feel like you should do
Speaker 3: as far as marketing, and they give you a bag
Speaker 3: to do it. And if I'm not in a rush
Speaker 3: to have either of those And.
Speaker 2: Are there people you feel like you don't have access
Speaker 2: to though, because sometimes they do that too, like they
Speaker 2: might pair you with. But I feel like you could
Speaker 2: DM somebody if you wanted to exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like in this day and age, you
Speaker 3: can be your own PR, you can be your own
Speaker 3: A and R, you can reach out to artists yourself,
Speaker 3: you can head up platforms yourself, you can hit up
Speaker 3: brands yourself. So it's kind of like come it kind
Speaker 3: of comes down to how much output you want to
Speaker 3: do on your own.
Speaker 1: But I know it's also exhausting doing this.
Speaker 3: I mean it's not for the week.
Speaker 2: Because I can imagine that managing your I know for myself,
Speaker 2: managing yourself is a lot of work, and sometimes people
Speaker 2: want to focus more on just like being creative and
Speaker 2: not having to deal as much with the administrative side
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I'm learning now, Like I'm strictly
Speaker 3: an artist before a businessman, like just naturally, so I
Speaker 3: think over time I had to learn that about myself, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not so I'm not the greatest act communicating or
Speaker 3: following up with an email or you know, things like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm learning and put people in position and delegating
Speaker 3: certain tasks.
Speaker 1: Maybe you need an AI assistant, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I use Chat every days. That's the co
Speaker 3: manager right there, Chat GPT. You need a percentage yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I really appreciate you for coming through here.
Speaker 2: Like I said, we've been trying to coordinate and make
Speaker 2: this happen, but I think this was perfect time because
Speaker 2: at least I got you after the album came out,
Speaker 2: so I was able to really sit with it and
Speaker 2: listen to it. And I do love it, and I
Speaker 2: think you're an amazing artist honestly, Like when they said,
Speaker 2: he didn't even ask me, because normally before we book somebody,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, do you want this person? He was like,
Speaker 2: I just saw your name pop up on the schedule,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's exciting. Blast is finally coming through.
Speaker 3: You know. I was kind of skeptical about doing the
Speaker 3: show with you, why because you got that freaky show
Speaker 3: that you.
Speaker 1: Be doing Lipstavers. We'll get you on the next and.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be the same thing,
Speaker 3: but this was actually one of the dopest interviews I had.
Speaker 1: Oh would think. I appreciate you also for being really open.
Speaker 2: I think it's hard not to because a lot of
Speaker 2: what we saw on this album is so personal. So
Speaker 2: I think that it made it a lot easier for
Speaker 2: me to be able to have these conversations just because
Speaker 2: you know, and I ruin that's another one.
Speaker 1: You and Sasha Kip.
Speaker 2: I just really enjoy when people and I know everybody
Speaker 2: doesn't write their own music, but I enjoy when people
Speaker 2: write their own music, when artists do that, because it
Speaker 2: matches up with like what they're really going through in life,
Speaker 2: right right, I feel that, And you really sat up
Speaker 2: here and went through it all.
Speaker 3: SOO man, thank you, thank you for having me on here.
Speaker 3: I appreciate your platform.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: We'll be looking forward to that announcement, okay of the
Speaker 2: tour because I think one thing people do have to
Speaker 2: experience is seeing you live, and I know that's important
Speaker 2: to you. Having a great stage show also.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we do it for. You know, you
Speaker 3: go in the studio, you make these stories, but the
Speaker 3: end goes to connect with different people about you know
Speaker 3: how what it means to them. So that's what I'm
Speaker 3: looking forward to. That's why I'm doing a meet and
Speaker 3: greet out here in New York as well. I know
Speaker 3: it's not a tour, but it's one way that I
Speaker 3: can still connect with the ones who've been tapped in.
Speaker 1: You can't be doing them Chris round pictures though.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you gotta hit the jam fall.
Speaker 1: No, I know. Is it hard? Like even taking pictures
Speaker 1: with fans. You gotta be careful too, because you know
Speaker 1: you got to go home like who is.
Speaker 3: That girl in the picture? Oh yeah, I do one post.
Speaker 3: I don't you know. I don't touch nobody unless they
Speaker 3: you know. But I keep it respectful. I don't want
Speaker 3: to know nothing going on.
Speaker 1: That's good, le stay out of trouble. I like that
Speaker 1: for you. I would never want to go on media
Speaker 1: takeout and see Blast laid up look.
Speaker 2: All right, but Labor of Love as you know, it's
Speaker 2: out right now to make sure y'all check that out
Speaker 2: and Blast.
Speaker 1: Thank you, so much, for coming through you,