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Speaker 1: commit and get some fake momentum because of that. That's fine.

437
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Speaker 1: They can win the recruiting bakeoff in the month of June,

438
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Speaker 1: because that's not signing day. We want to be authentic

439
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Speaker 1: in our relationships. If a kid picks Miami, we want

440
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Speaker 1: it to be for the right reasons. So Colin is

441
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Speaker 1: busy calling his T shirt guy to get recruiting Bakeoff

442
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Speaker 1: June Champion t shirts made and I can't wait for

443
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Speaker 1: those to come out.

444
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Speaker 2: How great is that quote?

445
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Speaker 1: How great is this in general, sniping back and forth

446
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Speaker 1: between Florida State and Miami and the month of June

447
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Speaker 1: and July. I think it was one of the classic

448
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Speaker 1: quotes of the I don't want to say the O

449
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Speaker 1: word all season so far recruiting bakeoff. But what MANNYD

450
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Speaker 1: has to say in there, to skip past all the

451
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Speaker 1: bs and just what he's saying is, yeah, I don't

452
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Speaker 1: care what we're ranked right now. I don't care what

453
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Speaker 1: they're ranked right now. We're going heads up for a

454
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Speaker 1: lot of kids, but we are taking a much more

455
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Speaker 1: measured approach in the evaluations stage. Now, this is not

456
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Speaker 1: an apples to Apple situation. Florida State roster wise is

457
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Speaker 1: in a worse spot than Miami is. I don't think

458
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Speaker 1: anyone's under the illusion otherwise. So it very well may

459
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Speaker 1: be that at Florida State they are taking a little

460
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Speaker 1: bit different approach than they are at Miami. I would

461
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Speaker 1: if I was the head, if I was Mike Norvel,

462
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Speaker 1: I'd be going at it a little bit differently right now,

463
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Speaker 1: and my filter would be a little bit different than

464
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Speaker 1: if I weremanded.

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Speaker 2: He has at Miami.

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Speaker 1: Well, what Manny's saying is stop comparing us, And if

467
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Speaker 1: you are trying to, you need to understand what he's saying,

468
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Speaker 1: if you read between the lines, is there are kids

469
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Speaker 1: we could take right now if we wanted to. We're

470
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Speaker 1: not because we're taking a different approach. We're taking a

471
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Speaker 1: more measured approach. We don't have one hundred spots to

472
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Speaker 1: hand out. There's a very weird roster situation in play,

473
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Speaker 1: and so we're trying to adhere to that. So shut

474
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Speaker 1: up about recruiting rankings in July. Well, the very nature

475
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Speaker 1: of people who follow recruiting is they're not shutting up

476
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Speaker 1: any time of a year, and I'm glad they don't it.

477
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Speaker 1: Lets us have a show. But it also requires some context.

478
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Speaker 1: So Manny Diaz is sitting there right now and he says,

479
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Speaker 1: we may very well have the last life. He may,

480
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Speaker 1: he may at Miami, they may very well have the

481
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Speaker 1: last laugh. But he said unique twists and turns are coming.

482
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Speaker 1: Those were the words of many Diaz. I couldn't show

483
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Speaker 1: you the whole quote, not because it was expletive late

484
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Speaker 1: and it was just very long. So many Diaz is

485
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Speaker 1: probably right, there are probably just some twist and turns coming.

486
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Speaker 1: But the camps have already formed their talking points. You're

487
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Speaker 1: looking at the national rankings right now on YouTube, Ohio State,

488
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, FSU, LSU, Georgia. Three of those our mainstays

489
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Speaker 1: in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Two are not.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the other one in a second,

492
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Speaker 1: but Florida State's sitting there at number three right now.

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Speaker 1: Still a long way to go, but the camps have formed,

494
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Speaker 1: and the talking points are starkly contrasted. On one hand,

495
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Speaker 1: you've got the anytime Florida State lands a kid, either

496
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Speaker 1: they won't stick or well they didn't have committable law

497
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Speaker 1: for from anywhere else. And that's always fun to listen

498
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Speaker 1: to because no one, virtually no one who is running

499
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Speaker 1: their mouth saying these things. It's privy to that information.

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Speaker 1: And number two, the other camp says, there's a word

501
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Speaker 1: for what many Diaz is doing right now. It's called

502
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Speaker 1: excuse making. He's making excuses because they don't have momentum

503
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Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail. Well, you know how we feel

504
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Speaker 1: about momentum around here. Now.

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Speaker 2: It does exist in recruiting.

506
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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, if you define momentum

507
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Speaker 1: as just having a bunch of commitments, Miami could have

508
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Speaker 1: momentum tomorrow if they wanted it. So what he's saying,

509
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Speaker 1: it's going to take a while to figure out the

510
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Speaker 1: validity of because many Diez is telling you, essentially, we'll

511
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Speaker 1: be there in the end and we don't really care

512
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Speaker 1: about what's happening right now. I like it selfishly because

513
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Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in this fight. But I

514
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Speaker 1: really really hope the collective tide is raised in the

515
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Speaker 1: state of Florida. For reasons I have stated over and

516
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Speaker 1: over again even in the segment and won't do it again.

517
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Speaker 1: It is good for college football when the Big three

518
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Speaker 1: in Florida are recruiting as they should be, and that's

519
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Speaker 1: all I have to say about that. Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: You probably noticed as we were showing you the rankings there,

521
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame was there too. We're gonna show you that

522
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Speaker 1: again in just a second, but let me just talk

523
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Speaker 1: to you a little bit about this. Notre Dame is

524
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Speaker 1: pretty hot right now, and I know a lot of

525
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Speaker 1: us don't associate Notre Dame and hot, especially when it

526
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Speaker 1: comes to recruiting. It's always a good, solid effort, but

527
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: you're never looking at them saying, boy, they're making some

528
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: noise right now. Well, they had big news yesterday, really

529
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Speaker 1: big news. Twenty twenty three five star defensive lineman Brennan

530
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Speaker 1: Vernon commits to Notre Dame. They just flat out beat

531
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Speaker 1: Ohio State for an Ohio kid. The Buckeyes are going

532
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Speaker 1: to be fine, don't worry about that. But it was

533
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Speaker 1: a really, really big get. And it's the twenty twenty

534
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Speaker 1: two class that I want to talk about. That kid's

535
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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty three kid. The twenty twenty two class,

536
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Speaker 1: as you just saw, is sitting there rank number two

537
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Speaker 1: in the country with sixteen commits, so they already have

538
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: the majority of the class not signed obviously but verbally

539
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: committed now obviously, like Alabama's ranked below Rutgers right now.

540
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Speaker 1: So Alabama hasn't even started to play this game yet.

541
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Speaker 1: They will rapidly vault inside the top three, top two,

542
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Speaker 1: and there are other big time players that are going

543
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Speaker 1: to make a move. But Notre Dame's not done yet either.

544
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Speaker 1: But I want to talk about what they have done

545
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Speaker 1: so far. I think we're witnessing a major happening, Ben,

546
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Speaker 1: and you're witnessing a major shift.

547
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman's killing it.

548
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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman, for those of you who don't know this name,

549
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: are not familiar with this name, was it Cincinnati defensive

550
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: coordinator And for all the world remember this. It wasn't

551
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: that long ago. It looked like he was going to LSU.

552
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: Out with Bo Polini, in with Marcus Freeman. Massive upgrade.

553
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Speaker 1: And then here comes Brian Kelly pulling one of the

554
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: biggest baller moves he's ever done, and he just plucks

555
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: him like the old grab claw machine and he says, no, Marcus,

556
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: I think you need to work here, and Marcus Freeman agreed,

557
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: and he is the defensive coordinator at Notre Dame right now,

558
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: you maybe think a big deal.

559
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Speaker 2: They hadn't even played a game with him yet. No,

560
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Speaker 2: they hadn't.

561
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Speaker 1: So when I tell you he's already probably the most

562
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Speaker 1: popular guy on campus, you might ask, what did he

563
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Speaker 1: do hold a fundraiser?

564
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Speaker 2: What's happening?

565
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Speaker 1: I mean is he contributed a million dollars to a

566
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Speaker 1: local hospital. Know what he's doing is he's recruiting his

567
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Speaker 1: tailoff and they are killing it. Notre Dame's killing it

568
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Speaker 1: right now. So you knew about his coaching prowess. Notre

569
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Dame internally they were really really excited about the coaching

570
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: that they were over the moon excited when they hired

571
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Speaker 1: him about the recruiting potential. So he is the number

572
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Speaker 1: four recruiter in the country for the class of twenty

573
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Speaker 1: twenty two. He's got six commits rated four stars are

574
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Speaker 1: higher that he is responsible for in this class. But

575
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Speaker 1: it's a huge move for Brian Kelly because I want

576
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Speaker 1: you to think about this. Notre Dame's a major program.

577
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but this is not exactly Alabama

578
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: North where Saban loses assistance every year. But you have

579
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Speaker 1: learned to not even worry about it because when he

580
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: loses one, he just goes and finds a Jeremy Pruitt

581
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Speaker 1: to be a defensive coordinator or a Steve Sarkeesian to

582
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Speaker 1: be an offensive coordinator.

583
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Speaker 2: Well, that's not the way it's supposed to be.

584
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Speaker 1: When you lose big time coaching talent, it's supposed to

585
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Speaker 1: be a little dip in production. You're supposed to have

586
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Speaker 1: to pull yourself back up slowly. They lost clark Lee,

587
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: not to another DC position. They lost a head coach

588
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: caliber defensive coordinator to Vanderbilt, and clark Lee was a

589
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: main stay up there, really good coach. And you think

590
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: about it and you say, Notre Dame got to replace

591
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: a really really good DC. Probably going to struggle here.

592
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: They may have upgraded without knocking clark Lee one bit.

593
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: They may have upgraded. That's hard to do. And so

594
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly has had a long and storied career now.

595
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: But we're not going to know this obviously fully for

596
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: a year or two. But if all the coaching acumen

597
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: follows up on just the profile of Marcus Freeman, otherwise

598
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: we just get what we expect from an on field

599
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: gamed a game week x's nose preparation type standpoint a

600
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: developmental standpoint, and then you find out you've got an

601
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: ace recruiter on that staff too. That's what we've always

602
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: been talking about with Notre Dame. We've been talking about

603
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: the fact that the worry is that, man, if you're

604
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, Brian Kelly has squeezed every ounce of

605
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: current potential out of this team, which I believe he has.

606
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Speaker 1: I believe he's done a phenomenal job coaching. I just

607
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: believe they're ill equipped to go up against the Clemsons

608
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: of the world when at full strength, or the Alabama's

609
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Speaker 1: of the world.

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Speaker 2: They just don't go horse for horse with us.

611
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Speaker 1: Well, the only way to saw that is to get

612
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: more horses and faster horses, and the way to do

613
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: that you recruit them. And so Notre Dame's go They're

614
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: not going to load up in the transfer portal. That's

615
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: not the way they go about it. But you can

616
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: go out and change the game on the high school

617
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: recruiting trail. And again it's it's very short so far,

618
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: very small sample size, but they may be on their

619
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: way to do it that and it could be that

620
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: two or three years down the road, you're watching Notre

621
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Dame in another playoff game and you're saying, Wow, it's

622
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: tied going into the fourth quarter against this team that

623
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: used to skull drag them. How did this happen? Better players?

624
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: It's not against not rocket science, better players, that's how.

625
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: You do it.

626
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: This is really exciting. Really keep an eye on this.

627
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman is a name. Keep an eye on that

628
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: this year, and keep an eye on it twofold on

629
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Speaker 1: the field, but then on the recruiting trail too.

630
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Speaker 2: I wanted to wrap.

631
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Speaker 1: Up with this. I'm looking at that Manids quote again,

632
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: June Bakeoff. That's great, has nothing to do with what

633
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: we're about to close the show with.

634
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Speaker 2: So let's finish with this.

635
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Speaker 1: The transfer a portal door just boom, It closed finally,

636
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: at least as it relates to being able to be

637
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: eligible this year. What a time it's been. How many

638
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: times we talked about the transfer portal on here. You

639
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: guys have scooped it up. It's been your favorite topic

640
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: for us to talk about on the show the entire

641
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: post spring cycle. And so now, much like the water

642
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: tight doors down there in the Titanic, you had to

643
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: fit through there at the very last minute or else

644
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: you're out of luck, you're gonna have to wait until

645
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: next year for eligibility.

646
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: And there were a few names that we need.

647
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: To talk about that got their foot through the door

648
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: right before it slams shut. And it's been kind of

649
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: lost in all this Nil fuss. Everyone's been talking about

650
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: nil and the transfer portal. That's been the name of

651
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the game this entire stretch. And there were some big

652
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: names here we need to discuss. So the first is

653
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Darryl Middleton. Now he was at Tennessee. So all these

654
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Speaker 1: guys have entered the transfer portal as of the time

655
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Speaker 1: of this show, which we're not recording, we're doing it live.

656
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Speaker 2: I can prove it.

657
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Speaker 1: It is a seven twenty eight Thursday night, July first.

658
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Speaker 1: Samba Tesh has just texted me even though he knows

659
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Speaker 1: I'm on the air, So that's proof. Even though I

660
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: could have made all that up. Daryn Middleton has entered

661
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the transfer portal. All these guys have as of time

662
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Speaker 1: of show. They have not landed anywhere started twenty two

663
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: games the past two seasons. Every name I'm about to

664
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Speaker 1: mention can be an immediate contributor at another Power five location.

665
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Speaker 1: But this did not shock folks at Tennessee. In fact,

666
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Speaker 1: I went and read it was Patrick Brown over on

667
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Speaker 1: Valls twenty four to seven, and he echoed what someone

668
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Speaker 1: else had told me who was familiar with this. It

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Speaker 1: was something that could best be described as a mutual

670
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: parting of ways. It's just one of those new staffs

671
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: in town. Here's the way we're going to do things. Well,

672
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Speaker 1: I don't really like the way you're doing things. Okay,

673
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: well it's probably best if we just shake hands and

674
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Speaker 1: we go our separate ways. That happens all the time

675
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: when a new staff is in town. I think it's

676
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: happened with Tennessee here. But the difference is, this is

677
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Speaker 1: not some guy who was buried on the depth chart

678
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. This is not a guy you'll

679
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Speaker 1: never hear from again. Well, it's the caliber of guy

680
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Speaker 1: that can go somewhere and can be a force. So

681
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Speaker 1: Daryl Middleton is one name to watch. He's on the

682
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Speaker 1: defensive line.

683
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Speaker 2: King will cut up. This is one a little bit

684
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Speaker 2: closer to me.

685
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Speaker 1: That's an outside linebacker who has entered the transfer portal

686
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: as of yesterday at Alabama. This is a kid I

687
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: covered in high school down at Troop County.

688
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: Saw him play many a game at Callaway Stadium.

689
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Speaker 1: There they share that with Lagrange High School, which is

690
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Speaker 1: irrelevant to the topic, but I just wanted to fill

691
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Speaker 1: you in on my knowledge of local geography. This is

692
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: a big name that you don't know because he hasn't

693
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: started for Alabama, hadn't really been playing for him.

694
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: It's just cause they're two loaded.

695
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: There was a name that transferred a few weeks back

696
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Speaker 1: from Alabama to Texas and his name was Keelan Robinson.

697
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Speaker 1: And I told you at the time that kid would

698
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Speaker 1: start at running back for like ninety percent of the

699
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: programs in America. He is excellent. There's no character concern,

700
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Speaker 1: there's no ulterior reason other than loaded depth chart why

701
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: he transferred. King will cut is this way too. King

702
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: Willcutt is not. King will Cutta is not a guy

703
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: they've had problems with. He's not constantly been in the doghouse.

704
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Speaker 1: He's good. He's good on a roster full of great

705
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: and he's probably got a ceiling of greatness himself. He

706
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: was a former high four star guy. Wherever he goes,

707
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the best linebackers that

708
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: lands on that team. And I don't particularly care where

709
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: it is he lands, He's going to fit that description.

710
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Speaker 1: It's just that Alabama's linebacker room is so insanely loaded.

711
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

712
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Speaker 1: And so this is another one of those situations that

713
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Speaker 1: I would bet you my bottom dollar the Alabama coaching

714
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: staff is helping facilitate as much as they can because.

715
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Speaker 2: They know how good he is.

716
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Speaker 1: He came in there, he worked, he did what he

717
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: was supposed to, he did what he was asked to do,

718
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: and just he's not good enough to start for him.

719
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Speaker 1: There's no shame in that. There's shame in shying away

720
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Speaker 1: from competition and being scared of it. There's no shame

721
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: in competing and finding out. I don't quite measure up now.

722
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: For all we know, King Mukuta could land somewhere flourish

723
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: with proper development, ended up being an All American caliber player.

724
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Speaker 1: I think Keilan Robinson has that kind of upside too

725
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: at Texas, so keep an eye on that. And the

726
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Speaker 1: third one he's probably got the most national attention was

727
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Speaker 1: Dare Rosenthal at LSU. There is a little bit of

728
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: backstory here. It's not my place to tell it. I'm

729
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: just telling you it's not a huge deal. So it's

730
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: not anything that if he lands somewhere else, they're going

731
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Speaker 1: to strike him of his eligibility. It's just we got

732
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Speaker 1: to wait and see what happens. But this is a

733
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Speaker 1: starting left tackle in the SEC, so I want you

734
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Speaker 1: to obviously think about the impact he could have somewhere.

735
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's good enough to start at left

736
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Speaker 1: tackle for LSU. I don't think I need to sit

737
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: here and sell you on our late kick scouting report

738
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Speaker 1: of Dare Rosenthal. I feel like he's been there fourteen years,

739
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: but as Austin Declis is like that, I feel like

740
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: he's been there for like ten years. I want you

741
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: to think about how crazy this would have been fifteen

742
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: years ago and how seemingly passe it is now. Imagine

743
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Speaker 1: the year is two thousand and five or two thousand

744
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: and six, and the projected starting left tackle of a

745
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: team that's expected to contend just up and says I'm leaving.

746
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go some where else in play. Oh and

747
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm gonna be immediately eligible. That would

748
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: have turned the That would have dominated the news cycle

749
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: for a week if it was the right player. And

750
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: so LSU's a big program. Dare Rosenthal is a big player.

751
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: There's some guidance out there as some folks think he

752
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: lands at Kentucky. I don't have an educated opinion on it.

753
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you think about how different our world

754
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: of college football is now.

755
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: You can say for the better or for the worse.

756
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: You just got starting position players starting left tackles, just

757
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: up and saying I'm gonna go wherever I want to,

758
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: And people look at it and say, oh, that came

759
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: from LSU's transferring, Whereas back in the day it would

760
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: have been like if a five alarm fire gets called

761
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: in three different stations, three different ladder trucks start to report.

762
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: So that's how different things are today in the college

763
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: football landscape. But the date moves next year. To remember,

764
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: if you haven't caught this announcement, it was all the

765
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: way into the midsummer months right now July because of COVID,

766
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: because of the way the calendar was turned upside down.

767
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Remember I think it's May. I think it's right after

768
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: spring ball. Next year is when this date gets moved up.

769
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: In the date I'm referring to, is you gotta transfer

770
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: or at least enter your name into the portal before

771
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: this date if you want immediate eligibility this year. So

772
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: it won't go quite as deep into the summer as

773
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: it just did, but I still maintain the biggest new

774
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: kind of unicorn territory in college football and the biggest unknown.

775
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: I guess is a better way to put it. It's

776
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: a unicorn for us because we can get numbers of

777
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: content this time of year. But the post spring, that's

778
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: the no man's lamb. That's the one that scares all

779
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: the coaches because that's the time of year where recruiting's done,

780
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: spring practice is done, and guys have that period of

781
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: time where they can just chuck up the deuces and

782
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: say I'm leaving, and you say, what are we gonna do?

783
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: And they have the power to say, not my problem.

784
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: It's tough. It can be pretty tough. So Buffalo got

785
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: hit the hardest this year, but that was directly in

786
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: relation to their coach leaving. And we don't talk a

787
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: whole lot of Buffalo on the show, Go Bulls and All.

788
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: But outside of that, it's going to be a learning process,

789
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: has been for a lot of coaching staffs.

790
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: We're done.

791
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm done with the show, and so we're not going

792
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: to have a show Sunday night because I'm going to

793
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: be home, and home means Georgia, and so I will

794
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: be back here next week. We'll start the regular podcast

795
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: rotation again.

796
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: We will be back.

797
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Thursday, but we're just going to take as long a

798
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: break as we ever have, like I think four days.

799
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, though, because we have bought

800
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: ourselves the opportunity to be in position to do some really,

801
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: really big things this fall, we're getting attention that quite frankly,

802
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think we would get this early in the process.

803
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: I threw out a little line into the water the

804
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: other day about potentially finding the right advertising partner.

805
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: For the show.

806
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: Now, again, I'm not supposed to tell you this, whatever,

807
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: if you haven't tuned out already, it means you're die hard.

808
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: And management has long since turned the show off because

809
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: it's a holiday weekend, so they're already on the road somewhere.

810
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: So let me tell you what happened.

811
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Speaker 1: Some big companies jumped in the DMS, and so I

812
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: at this point think you and I need to have

813
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: a frank conversation about which brands we would be okay

814
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: with on this show. Are we in that territory. Not yet,

815
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: but could we soon be in the territory where you

816
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: and I are talking amongst ourselves about whose money we

817
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: want to take. I don't know, maybe we'll see it's

818
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: fun though, So again, there have been no decisions. So

819
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: if you are let's say, a regional brand or a

820
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: national brand, or I don't care if you own a

821
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: gas station somewhere, if you got the money to drop,

822
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: hit me up Josh paid seven zero six at.

823
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: Gmail dot com.

824
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not facilitating this, CBS would, but I can guarantee

825
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: you if I hand you off as a hot lead,

826
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: you guys can close the deal. I'm interested in that

827
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: we don't have to do it near Our paycheck looks

828
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: the same either way. But I'd be interested in finding

829
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: the right partner out there that wants to associate their

830
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: brand with our brand, because this.

831
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: Which shoulder is it?

832
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: This brand here?

833
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

834
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one over there, that brand has a lot

835
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: of eyeballs on it, and they are concentrated in very

836
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: very specific demographics that I know a lot of you

837
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: trying to hit. So as you're flying towards these nil deals,

838
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: picture us too. We're in the market too, all right,

839
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: We're out of here. We got a long road trip

840
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: ahead of us tonight, so for director Colin, for our

841
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: entire crew in Fort Lauderdale, I'm josh Ate signing off.

842
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: Have a great independence, stay weekend, Stay safe, especially those

843
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: people with the fireworks, and God bless