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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 2: Come that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me

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Speaker 1: as always my good friend soon to be married co host.

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Speaker 1: His name is Dan Rubinstein. Don't forget. You can find

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Speaker 1: us out on Facebook and Twitter, as well as on

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Speaker 1: dot com. Sir, drum roll, please, it's the big week

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Speaker 1: for you because we're speaking with Yogi Roth. Well not

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Speaker 1: just that, but I hope everything goes all right with

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Speaker 1: the way. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Ty, I had a bit of a suit issue this

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Speaker 3: morning that had to be solved. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be solved. I'll confirm after after we're done recording.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday evening. Did they give you tales by mistake?

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Speaker 1: Not tails, but sleeves that were too short? Oh great?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I wear a thirty eight regular and I

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Speaker 3: think it was a thirty eight short jacket. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: know for an athlete, you know, a lamethy athlete like myself,

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Speaker 3: right right. So I had to make a quick run

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Speaker 3: and got a lot of apologies, got a free tie

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Speaker 3: out of it, ty, So that's a good omen good

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Speaker 3: or good sign. So I think everything is taken care of.

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Speaker 1: But I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I just want to get it.

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Speaker 1: Over with, right. I'm excited to be part of it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be out there partaking the festivities this weekend, so

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Speaker 1: there will be a full recap at some point or another. Again,

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Speaker 1: don't forget to subscribe to the show. We're free. We're

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Speaker 1: every week here in the off season. Is there a

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Speaker 1: wedding pool? Well, I was going to ask you about that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as you don't interrupt the proceedings by

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Speaker 1: I'll see what I can put together and live your

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Speaker 1: best life.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited because I'm not married for another five

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Speaker 3: or six, four or five days, something like that. But

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Speaker 3: we've got a really good show tonight. I'm particularly excited

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Speaker 3: for this one.

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Speaker 1: We do so. A couple of weeks ago we put

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Speaker 1: together a special production talking about how college football coaches

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Speaker 1: get hired. We've got a bunch of great ideas for

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Speaker 1: how college football works, and it's not just how coaches

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Speaker 1: get hired. Tonight's show where maybe we didn't put all

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Speaker 1: of the production elements into it, but the quality of

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Speaker 1: the content that I think you're going to get in

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Speaker 1: return makes it well worth the free price of admission.

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Speaker 1: Here on the show, we've invited Yogi roth Back from

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Speaker 1: Elite eleven from the PAC twelve network. Yogi is one

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Speaker 1: of the more interesting and optimistic gentlemen you'll ever have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet, and we brought him on to

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Speaker 1: talk about all things quarterbacking, particularly you're a new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What happens next?

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's let's see if you look across And

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Speaker 3: I apologize for focusing in on Power five conferences, because

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Speaker 3: a lot of what I think we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: across the bigger teams the bigger conferences. You have Clemson.

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Speaker 3: Kelly Bryant looks to be the starter, but either way,

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Speaker 3: there will have a new full time starting quarterback after

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson takes off. North Carolina. You know Mitchell, maybe

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Speaker 3: we just call him Mitchell. Let me won't even say

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Speaker 3: his last name. We just really hone in on that.

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Speaker 3: He's like Pele, yeah, exactly. So you have you in

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Speaker 3: North Carolina, you have Virginia Tech. You look across Big twelve,

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Speaker 3: not a lot of new starters. But Will Greer is

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Speaker 3: So across the league, and we've seen the quarterbacks in

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks are being thrown onto the field early on, and

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Speaker 3: what's interesting is Yogi's background with the Elite eleven. You

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Speaker 3: know what, nobody watches more quarterback play probably than Yogi

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Speaker 3: Roth just in general that exists his perspective on what

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Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting to sort of figure out

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Speaker 1: So let's die. Then we're going to talk to Yogi

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Speaker 1: Roth see if we can gain some insight into how

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Speaker 1: it works if you've been named a new starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: On that note, without further ado, let's talk all things

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Speaker 1: about being a new college football quarterback here to help

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Speaker 1: us understand how that works. Yogi Roth, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? How are you guys?

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Speaker 1: We're doing well. Dan's about to get married.

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Speaker 4: I know, man, pump Man. I'm really excited for you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've all been on the journey right

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Speaker 2: because you guys allow us to be there on the pod.

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Speaker 4: But also creatively.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if your video has been released or not,

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Speaker 3: Did it warm your heart? Did I pull it off?

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Speaker 2: Little bit here, but I think that you you come

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Speaker 2: got some good one liners. You got great depth to

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Speaker 4: Side of you, and I appreciate being on the journey.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Yogi, be cool. I'm trying to keep this my

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Speaker 3: my reputation as being a stoneface killer a lot, now,

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Speaker 3: I I am a I'm a teddy bear. I am

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Speaker 3: a soft person. So thank you very much. Ty Ty's

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Speaker 3: not bad himself. Ty, We will know it is.

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Speaker 1: It is your time to shine, mister Rubistine. This is true.

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Speaker 1: We'll get words of optimism from the most optimistic person

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Speaker 1: we've ever had on the program. That's after we get

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Speaker 1: who knows pretty much everything there is to know about quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and I guess we'll start here Yogi. The traditional path,

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Speaker 1: idea for this show is you're a highly touted prospect,

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Speaker 1: perhaps you go through the Elite eleven system. Everyone in

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Speaker 1: the college football ether knows who you are. You pick

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Speaker 1: your school, you get out there on the field. What

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Speaker 4: I mean from a game standpoint. One of my favorite things.

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Speaker 2: and how's that? How has the rim ten feet? How

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Speaker 2: And to do that, it's kind of like what you

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Speaker 2: used to do with running backs when they got to college.

440
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Speaker 4: When you get a great running back, like when Reggie

441
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 4: came in to SC, it.

442
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Speaker 2: Was all right, let's give him five plays. You know,

443
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: he isn't no everything. Give five plays, you know, Let's

444
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: make sure he can play at the speed he's capable

445
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: of on those plays. Okay, cool, next year, let's givehim

446
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,239
Speaker 2: twenty five plays, you know, all right now thirty year,

447
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: give them everything, you know, So there's a progression. And

448
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing at the quarterback because

449
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: of what the spread has allowed you to do.

450
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Speaker 4: So if you put yourself in a position to bad

451
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Speaker 4: coach and let's just get.

452
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Speaker 2: A job at the power five school, not Ohio State,

453
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: SC Texas, right, not Elite Alabama, one of those places

454
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: where you can get the old line and get all

455
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: the positions to run whatever offense you want, well, what

456
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: are you gonna run. You're gonna run. You're gonna run

457
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: an advent of the spread. You're gonna run a place

458
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Speaker 2: where you don't have to make full field reads. You're

459
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: gonna run a system where you can make the green

460
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 2: grass rule and get the ball out. You're gonna run

461
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Speaker 2: a place where, okay, hey mean my receivers, they're gonna

462
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Speaker 2: play right outside wide receiver, then play right spot receiver,

463
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: and et cetera, et cetera, and that's where they're going

464
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: to become experts.

465
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Speaker 4: You know, Oregon had done that obviously in the.

466
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Speaker 2: Past of I'm gonna be so good and I'm going

467
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: to overrap the daylights out of this system so I

468
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: can kind of just operate in that world.

469
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Speaker 4: Now, when does it get hard.

470
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Speaker 2: It gets hard when all of a sudden, what you

471
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Speaker 2: expect doesn't happen. And I was talking to guys in

472
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Speaker 2: the NFL this year about quarterbacks and drafting them, and

473
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: they said, you know this specific team that really it's

474
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Speaker 2: gonna be hard for us to ever draft a quarterback

475
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Speaker 2: because when you come out of college, you go to

476
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Speaker 2: you know, George or Jordan or one of the incredible

477
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: quarterback builders that all these guys go to and they

478
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: get taught all the stuff, right, they get taught the

479
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: fronts and how to read them and the coverages and

480
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: everything goes, but you don't really know it because you

481
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: haven't done it. You know, your ten thousand hours of

482
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: playing the position are legit, but they're not necessarily changing protections,

483
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Speaker 2: resetting fronts, you know, identifying them, let alone operating in

484
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Speaker 2: real time against them. So it's just it's just such

485
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Speaker 2: a big learning curve and in this era of coaching,

486
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Speaker 2: you know't of the time, which is why I go

487
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Speaker 2: back to the question what was your run if you're

488
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Speaker 2: in college? Well, I want to get the seven wins,

489
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Speaker 2: I want to get to nine wins. How can I

490
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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 4: Right? Let's get the ball out.

492
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Speaker 2: And I think that's important to note in terms of

493
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Speaker 2: why guys are having success, and it is the simplification

494
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: of a lot of these offenses. And that's just to me,

495
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: that the truth of it, and there's nothing wrong with that.

496
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Speaker 2: That's that's the reality, fair enough.

497
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Speaker 3: And so when you see these super young quarterbacks. Another

498
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Speaker 3: one obviously, Deshaun Watson, what a lot of success early

499
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Speaker 3: on at Clemson and went on to win a national championship.

500
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Speaker 3: When you see these guys as freshmen or red shirt freshman,

501
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Speaker 3: first year starting, you know, still really new to the

502
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: field in game play, what are you shocked to see?

503
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: What floors you to see? You know, this guy's nineteen

504
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: and he's already doing this. What does an advanced freshman

505
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Speaker 3: or an advanced red shirt freshman, as silly as that

506
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: term sounds like, you know, is it progressions? Is it

507
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: being able to sort of figure out disguised coverages and blitzes.

508
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Speaker 3: Is it poison calm that should come later? What is

509
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Speaker 3: what does a special advanced freshman red shirt freshman look like?

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fun conversation to me because of the

511
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Speaker 2: stages they've been put on.

512
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Speaker 4: In high school.

513
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Speaker 2: Those stages aren't that big, you know, because they don't

514
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Speaker 2: know any better.

515
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Speaker 4: You know, you look at Sam Darnold last year, he

516
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 4: just kind of went out and bald. You know. You

517
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: look at Shane Buschelle last year. You know, he didn't flinch,

518
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Speaker 4: you know. There it just wasn't too big of an

519
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Speaker 4: environ for them.

520
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Speaker 2: To me, the fun study is second year players, and

521
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Speaker 2: a lot of times second year quarterback specifically, whether it's right,

522
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: Schard sophomores or true sophomores, they struggle, and a lot

523
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Speaker 2: of that, at least in my opinion based on talking

524
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: to people and being around them, is all of a sudden,

525
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Now the all this stuff grows around them.

526
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Speaker 4: Right. I hate to use the term noise, but I'm

527
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Speaker 4: going to use it. Right, all the noise kind of grows.

528
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Speaker 2: And I can remember talking to a second year quarterback

529
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Speaker 2: last year and he said, he goes.

530
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Speaker 4: You know, when when I came back, they.

531
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Were like, okay, you got to be the leader here,

532
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: which is totally fair. Okay you're the quarterback's let's be

533
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: loud now. And he goes, hey, I got like fiftyear

534
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Speaker 2: seniors here, and nobody really taught me how to do that,

535
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Speaker 2: you know. So we go back to the high school level,

536
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: we're wrapping the daylights out of things. Only seven on

537
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Speaker 2: seven to us. But again that's why I know I

538
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: work with a lead eleven. But I'll get on the

539
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Speaker 2: table for us. I don't think anybody in the high

540
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Speaker 2: school space is doing what we do beyond the x's

541
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Speaker 2: and o's, and a lot of guys can teach up

542
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: all beautifully, but what we do on the sports psychology front,

543
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Speaker 2: on the mental training front, on the domestic violence front.

544
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Speaker 2: You know, the three sixty l evolutional quarterback did it

545
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Speaker 2: for ten days or so at the EEG eleven finals

546
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: in the opening, but at least get them going a

547
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Speaker 2: little bit.

548
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Speaker 4: And then the coaches, obviously in college, do.

549
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Speaker 2: A phenomenal job of taking it to the next level

550
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: with all the resources these places have with guest speakers

551
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Speaker 2: and different curriculum, et cetera. But my point is is

552
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: that the second year, all of a sudden, it's like, whoa,

553
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Speaker 2: I don't I'm not just playing, you know, I got

554
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 2: all this other crap. I gotta go do it. And

555
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: that's part of it. I mean, it's kind of we

556
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: call it a Laite eleven. It's his phrase, you embrace

557
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: the burden of influence because that's what you have at

558
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position. And that, to me is way more

559
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: interesting than oh my god, why is he ripping it

560
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: as a first year player.

561
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Speaker 4: Yeah, his progressions are great. Is a testimatory.

562
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Speaker 2: Skills are great, and the coaches are calling it to

563
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: the skill set Sam. You could do anything with him

564
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Speaker 2: because he's an elite player. Josh was the same way

565
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: as a true freshman Josh Rosen. Some guys, you got

566
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: to tailor what you can what you can call, and

567
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: where you want to go on based on obviously game situations,

568
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: specific down in distance, et cetera. But to me, it's

569
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: the second year is the study. Okay, now, how have

570
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: you dealt with this? How have you handled this? Because

571
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: it isn't just let me go ball. There's more to

572
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: the position. There's more to the expectation. There's more to

573
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: being on the front of the poster, there's more to

574
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: being on the billboard, there's more to be in all

575
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,239
Speaker 2: the interviews. There's just more to it, and you got

576
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: to deal with that. And to me, that is the

577
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: funnest part of being able to coach quarterbacks or be

578
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: a coordinator or obviously be a head coach and kind

579
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: of be a lockstep and guide this young man to

580
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: that place. And that's where you see some guys go

581
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: off the rails. We've seen that before, and we see

582
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: some guys struggle, and we see some guys thrive. And

583
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: it's going to be a new thing I'm really tuned

584
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: into after this last year of second year of players

585
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: and really evaluating the mental side of their growth as

586
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: a performer versus just, oh my god, they've got full

587
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: mastery of the whole playbook, Like no kidding, Like they

588
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: better have that, you know, like welcome to the position

589
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: at your job.

590
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about some rather deep subjects here, so not

591
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: to oversimplify, but you mentioned the playbook. I'm fascinated by

592
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: the verbiage, the terms that are required just to make

593
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: the offense per What are the tricks to getting a freshman,

594
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: to getting a first year starting quarterback to not only

595
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: understand what the plays mean and how they work, but

596
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: also simply memorize all the terminology so that they can

597
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: properly call out the plays.

598
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, you got to give so many

599
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: of these coaches they're kudos in terms of I really

600
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: think coaches, especially on the offensive side, have really leaned

601
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: into how the brain works.

602
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: So there's this theory called the scientific mind.

603
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of a nerdy article that I can remember

604
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: reading it ten years ago, and it was about how

605
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: the brain works and clusters, and it's basically the idea

606
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: of the brain works and.

607
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: Clusters of five or excuse me, of.

608
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Speaker 2: Seven plus or minus two, so fiven nine Like those

609
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: are kind of the clusters we can remember, so that

610
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: the easy comparison is when you were a kid, at

611
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Speaker 2: least us, Like we remembered our phone numbers, right, and

612
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: we remembered seven numbers. You know, for the most part,

613
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: we didn't. We didn't have a cell phone. You know,

614
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: you just kind of remember your boys' number and five

615
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: said three to four whatever.

616
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: You just kind of went away with it. Well.

617
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: I think now the important thing is coaches are understanding

618
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: how the brain works and the idea of learning. Your

619
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: learning with these kids, they're saying, okay, cool, what's what's

620
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: max capacity? What do they need to learn? Okay, I

621
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: need to give them three things I could if they're

622
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: a young guy. For instance, I can give my quarterback

623
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: basically like a picture, and this picture means, uh, this

624
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: is your protection, this is the route combination, and this

625
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: is your drop. This is oversimplified, but they're going to

626
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: tell the old line in the center or whoever's closer

627
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: to the sideline, Hey, this is the protection, and they'll

628
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: verbalize that.

629
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Speaker 4: Element to the old line. The receiver is the same thing.

630
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: So I think as the progression of quarterbacks in their careers,

631
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: the specificss go on. They're not asked to learn everything,

632
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: and that is the progression of a learner. Some places

633
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: are some places are like, hey, this is the offense

634
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: for a state. They're fun to watch because you know,

635
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: it's it's good stuff they're doing there, and you got

636
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: to call it real plays. And I say that in

637
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: terms of like West Coast off and dual right, Z

638
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: shorty two ZMZ snag. You know, like there's there's elements

639
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: of that at some institutions, and I think that other

640
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: institutions kind of get unfairly land basage for you know,

641
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: they're just you know, we just think that they just

642
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: call red right and that's a play.

643
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 4: You know.

644
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: Some places, yes, but I think it's way more complex

645
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: than and we give them credit for at times, but overall,

646
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: for the quarterback, you learn it because it matters.

647
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: You know.

648
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: We do a talk with with kids all the time

649
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: about like how much you love something and what that

650
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: really looks like, you know, truly it's not just you know,

651
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: it's like the Tom Herman presser last year and he's like,

652
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: if we don't just say I love you man, like

653
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: we like love each other, right, I remember that fun

654
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: little bit.

655
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Speaker 4: Well.

656
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Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing with the game. You know,

657
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: if you have the agape love for the craft, then you.

658
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: Go hard at it.

659
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: And I do think it's important for these coaches and

660
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: they're doing it. There's a there's a school in the

661
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: SEC that to me, it was amazing when I heard

662
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Speaker 2: what they did. They gave a quarterback test to a

663
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: young man on paper and he really struggled. They gave

664
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Speaker 2: the same test to him on an iPad and he

665
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: got like one hundred percent. It was just like you

666
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: think about it when if you are born in whatever,

667
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: a nineteen year old whatever. I don't want to know

668
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Speaker 2: the year a nineteen year old born right now because

669
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Speaker 2: it make you feel terrible.

670
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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety eight, yogihr.

671
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Speaker 4: At least it's not a two thousand yet.

672
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Speaker 2: But think about it, they probably, I mean, they don't

673
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: teach creative and they don't teach cursive anymore in third grade, right,

674
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: so like, how much are you really doing on paper?

675
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Speaker 4: Not much, you know, So again I go back to

676
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: how guys are learning and learn your learner, and to me,

677
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: the amount.

678
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Speaker 2: Of teams that are studying the mental side of performance,

679
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: not only as performers, but also how you become a

680
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: process based thinker and how they're doing that is across

681
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: the board, and if you're not doing it, you're kind

682
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: of missing the boat, you know, to be quite honest,

683
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: because you're not understanding how these kids learn. And that

684
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: to me is always where it's where the evolutions has occurred.

685
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Speaker 1: How similar is the verbiage between programs in your observation.

686
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: It's across the board. I mean, you're gonna go to

687
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Stanford and you're gonna get three plays. And the thing

688
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: about them that I love is that you know, you

689
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: don't play until you earn the right to play and

690
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: you're ready. You know, other places can be like, dude,

691
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: this guy can rip, Let's get the ball in his hand.

692
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens.

693
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: Right.

694
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna make things happen, right. I mean, we've

695
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: seen that happen across the country. And those teams start

696
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: out hot and they go four and oh, five and zero,

697
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: and the guys got featured on game Day or whatever,

698
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: and then they.

699
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: Lose three straight.

700
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's just kind of like there's a reason

701
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: why Oklahoma is the only team in the history college

702
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: football ever a true freshman ride. You know, outside of

703
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: obviously what it even hurts last year, right, they go

704
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: all the way till the end. But you got to

705
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: have so many other tools in your tool box to

706
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: be able to protect that position, just because of the

707
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: reality of what kids know coming in and what the

708
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: expectation is from these offensive minds now that there are

709
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Speaker 2: on the offensive side in college football.

710
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Speaker 4: So I think it varies, man, I really do.

711
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: I think that the depth of it though, is like

712
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: it's unfair. Like we could look at Texas Tech, for instance,

713
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: or Wazoo and be like, you know, man, they just

714
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: have twelve plays, right, And I think that gets thrown

715
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: out sometimes, but when you dive into it, it's not

716
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: really the truth. Right, Like you could say Jake's Faveito's

717
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: offense is the easiest in the country. Well not really,

718
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: you know, when you really dive into what he's teaching.

719
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Will grew at West Virginia, right, And I think so

720
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: on and so forth. We can go around the conference

721
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: in the country because now in recruiting again, it comes

722
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: back to Okay, yeah, you can go throw it for

723
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred yards, man, but you can get to

724
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: the league and in this quarterback arms race, like you

725
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: got to prove that you can do it, and we

726
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: saw it on the offensive line, and you've seen shifts

727
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: in how teams kick slide versus just past set and

728
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: spread offenses over the last couple years because they were

729
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: missing offensive linemen and recruiting like that is a shift.

730
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Speaker 4: It has happened, And the same thing in the quarterback.

731
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: Space of you got to prove to me how I'm

732
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: going to evolve, because the draft kind of speaks for itself.

733
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: You know, unless you are crazy ceiling, freaky athlete, insane

734
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: competitor like you better know football Toshaun Baller, and you

735
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: look at the guys that got drafted. List of this

736
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: last year to me was you know, it caught a

737
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: lot of slack, but it was a really deep quarterback

738
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Speaker 2: class in terms of, to me, the potential ceiling of

739
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: these guys, but also more importantly, they're obsessive knowledge for

740
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Speaker 2: the craft.

741
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Speaker 1: So you're a new starting quarterback, whether a freshman or

742
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: someone who's been on the team for a period of time,

743
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: You're now thrown into the spotlight. What is the most

744
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: important relationship to build because you've got options, You've got

745
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator and a quarterback coach, sometimes the same guy.

746
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: You've got an offensive line, you've got a receiving corps,

747
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: you've got other quarterbacks that are behind you on the

748
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: depth chart. What is the tried and true pathway besides

749
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: building a great relationship with all of them, preferably that's.

750
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Speaker 2: A great You guys ask great questions, which I love

751
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: your podcast, but I mean, I think when you get there,

752
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: you better develop relationships with your teammates, you know, like

753
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Davidsve is a great example, right, and Granny is a

754
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: fifth year transfer, but in two weeks he's named captain

755
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: or something like that last year, right, because he's got

756
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: around the guys. I still think you come back to that.

757
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady gave a great interview a couple of years ago.

758
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: It's an article we always passed out to the quarterbacks,

759
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: and he talks about how, like the QB is not

760
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: an extension of the coaching staff. The QB is a

761
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: member of the team and first and foremost, and that's

762
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: his job to not be above anybody in that huddle,

763
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: on that roster, in that locker room. Now, his job

764
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 2: is to champion the message from the staff, of course,

765
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: but it was really cool in terms of how we

766
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: reframe that, and I'd agree I think coaches would agree to.

767
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's the coaches' job to teach the student

768
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: athlete and put them in positions to lead, you know,

769
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: not necessarily to count on them to be responsible for

770
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: the leading. Now we always say that they are because

771
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: that's the right thing to do, and you put them

772
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: in the position to continue to evolve and grow, and

773
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: it's a great storyline. But I think if you asked

774
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: any Fortune five hundred CEO aka head coaches of Power

775
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: five and said, Okay, you're just giving the keys to

776
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: your twenty year old, eighteen year old nineteen year old.

777
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: Hell no, they're not doing it.

778
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: Their job is to put them in position to thrive

779
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: and make them feel as though they're driving the car.

780
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Speaker 4: But we all know who is necessarily doing it, especially

781
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Speaker 4: early on.

782
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: So to answer the question, I think the first thing

783
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: is your teammates, especially that position, because you can get

784
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: snipped out.

785
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: As a pretender really quick.

786
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: You fall into one or two categories in my opinion,

787
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. And it's the first things we say

788
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: to all Lead eleven kids is you either love what

789
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: the game does for you, which is this you know

790
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: on the Instagram, this Twitter, the you know going on

791
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: different shows you do for the game period and the

792
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: story and and it's it's a tough question because nothing

793
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: wrong with love and what the game does for you,

794
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: like there's there's there's nothing wrong with love in the shine,

795
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: but it can't be first, you know, so to me,

796
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: you go there and then it's it's the.

797
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: Guy you're working with every day. I mean, they you

798
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: have to be.

799
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Able to be honest there so often. I can remember

800
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: Mitch Mustang. I'll never forget this first of my career,

801
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: and do you guys remember Mitch. He was one of

802
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: the most prize recruits, you know, and most written you

803
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 2: know this era of college football, went to Arkansas, played

804
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: as a refreshment, balled out a lot of drama there

805
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: and transfers to sc And I'll never forget the first

806
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: day we came into the quarterback room and my job

807
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: was to kind of, you know, say hi to him

808
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: and let's see where he's at, like what does he know?

809
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: And it was so important that he could be honest.

810
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: I remember I asked him a couple just fundamental questions

811
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: in our system and he was trying to answer and

812
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: I was like, you never been taught that before?

813
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 4: Huh, and he's like no, and.

814
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool. I was like, this is

815
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: a safe space. Like you need to be able to

816
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: say I don't know and versus I have all the answers.

817
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: And that goes back to the first thing we talked

818
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: about is mastering your voice. You know, so often qbs

819
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: just try to I call them political figures, and you

820
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: just say the right thing and do the right thing,

821
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: and I get it. I mean, we could almost do

822
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: a funny podcast where we just get answers at press

823
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: conference because we know exactly what they're going to say.

824
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 4: You know, I want to thank my family, want to

825
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: thank God, and all about my teammates, right like we

826
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: know what they're going to do.

827
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: But I think in the evolution of them as players,

828
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: they have to be able to be honest versus trying

829
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: to always impress. And that's a cool evolutionary element because

830
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: sometimes you want to be the smart guy in the room.

831
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes you want to ask questions so you look smart.

832
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, all those elements and insecurities are legitimate. And

833
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: I've always thought quarterbacks are like supermodels, you know, like

834
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: they've got thin skinned to a certain degree, you know,

835
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: because they always you know, to want to be a

836
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: rock star, and when they walk down that runway, they

837
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: are rock stars. But when they trip and fall, they

838
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: can go down a dark path, which we've seen with

839
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and coll the NFL and even high school and recruiting.

840
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 4: And I think you have to be sensitive.

841
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: To that and the adult in the room as QB

842
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: coach or the coordinator. And that's the that's the relation

843
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: where you got to be super on a field to

844
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: be like, you know what, dude, I don't have a

845
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: clue of cover two means I have no clue how

846
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: to save his play, and then it's on them and

847
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: not call it and not put you in that situation

848
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: in your first year, and then by your third year,

849
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 2: he might be calling the plays in the offensive.

850
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: You're in yogi.

851
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: How much do you believe, if at all? In sort

852
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: of fire development and sort of saying, okay, we have

853
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: this freshman who's clearly the most talented QB. He's soaking

854
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: up the playbook. He you know, he's responding. He has

855
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: the respect of his teammates. But you know, our first

856
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: game of the year is against a huge team. It's

857
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's in baton rouge it's in Austin, it's

858
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: in wherever, it's in Athens, and it may not do

859
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: his confidence, it may not do his development the sort

860
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: of the best favors if he goes in there as

861
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: his first game and struggles, and maybe he goes down

862
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: from there, and how much do you believe in the

863
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: sort of like, well, it's only a matter of time

864
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: before he starts, so let's get him some reps on

865
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: the bench, sort of mental reps, and then by game

866
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: four we'll see where he's at. Is how fine a

867
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: line is that.

868
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Speaker 4: I think it's really important.

869
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: And that's why these coaches are really into the mental

870
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: side of performance now, you know. And they got to

871
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: understand the insecurities that go with that and the pressures

872
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: that go with that and what goes into that.

873
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 4: And I think.

874
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: If you don't have anybody else, it makes it easy

875
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: and easier decision, you know, sc fans always bringing up right,

876
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: it's man, what imagine if we started Sam against Alabama.

877
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: I think they would have got smoked as well, you know,

878
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: week one, and I don't think he was ready then.

879
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: And I had been at all their scrimmages and at

880
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: their practices and at their press conference, and whenever I go,

881
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: I just listen and the way he talked versus the

882
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: way Max Brown talked and their confidence.

883
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: You just didn't know.

884
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: You didn't know what you were going to get, and

885
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: you thought, you know, you're gonna get with Sam or

886
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: with with Max, you know, so you went with them,

887
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, as he wasn't there. Then I think it's interesting,

888
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: right you play in that since Jalen Green, because he

889
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: would have been a junior or whatever and you know,

890
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: would have been getting the reps in training camp.

891
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: But I don't know, I think it really goes down

892
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: to the.

893
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: Psyche of a kid, and you've got to play that

894
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: out of who they are, and there's that unknown of

895
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: you don't know. You know, you don't know how they're

896
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: going to perform. You know, you can see it all

897
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: day long. You try to recreate competitive cauldrons, which is

898
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: what Boe Walsh used to call, like how you get

899
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: it guys ready and practice ready. You create all those

900
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: environments and situations on the practice field. But if you

901
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: don't have competitive depth, then you don't have you know, dudes,

902
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: you're going up every day like an Alabama defense.

903
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: Or you know sc this year or whoever, maybe you

904
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: dove defense and you don't really know.

905
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 2: So that's the beauty of the game. But to your point,

906
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: I think you gotta be careful, you know. You look

907
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: at I think it was Jake Browning Espreshman year and

908
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: they roll them out against Boise on the road and

909
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: it was Chris Peterson like first game, right as head

910
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 2: coach might his first or second game, and then we

911
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: didn't know who's gonna start, and the way he goes

912
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: and they don't call the most aggressive game and it

913
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: comes down late and I think they ended up losing.

914
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: You know, they don't convert a couple of things at

915
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: the end, and you protect them in your play calling,

916
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: and then becomes a point where you say, all right,

917
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: let it rip.

918
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: You know. I think it's at every position too. I

919
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: can remember when Laryer Fitzgerald came.

920
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: To pit and you know, unfortunately he beat me out,

921
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: but you know, I was getting the burn early on

922
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: and the coaches are just like, is he ready to

923
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: really play?

924
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: And he went up to one sideline was like I can.

925
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: We were losing in a game, and he goes, I'll

926
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: make the play, like just put me in and I'll

927
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: never forget Walter looked at him.

928
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: He goes, all right, it's your time.

929
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 2: The next play called the fade touchdown career away he went.

930
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: And that was like I think week two against Texas

931
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: A and M or something like that, and they just.

932
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 4: Didn't know, you know, does he know his plays? We

933
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: trust him? Is he going to run the right route

934
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: on a slant on third and two? Or is he

935
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: going to try to go.

936
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 2: High and it to be a pixick the other way?

937
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: Like you just kind of don't know and then you

938
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: feel it. And that's why I go back to, like,

939
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: and this is me on my soapbox here of n

940
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: Cuba and recruiting. I think there's one more changes they

941
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: need to make because they don't let these coaches really

942
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: evaluate one early signing period. You want all these things, Well,

943
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: why can't they go to camps at like a lead eleven?

944
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Why can't they get more contact around them like you

945
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: can in basketball. I can be a basketball coach, head coach,

946
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: and I can go to Vegas and watch a kid play.

947
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: I could be an assistant coach in Vible and literally

948
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: coach a high school kid who I'm recruiting at the

949
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: time on a club team.

950
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: But in football, I can't go watch the opening, Like

951
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 4: I can't go learn more about my guys.

952
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: You know, I only get I can't bump them, I

953
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: can't talk to them when I go watch them throw.

954
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: So I can watch them throw forty times in May,

955
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: like coaches are just just finish up doing on the road,

956
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: but can't really get around him unless he can make

957
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: his way to your camp.

958
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 4: And I got to offer him all by the way

959
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: in ninth grade, like how are you.

960
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: Really supposed to know the psyche? And that to me

961
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: is why there's elements that they consistency in college football,

962
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: because it's just it's just hard unless you're an elite

963
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: place or you've got you know, insane, you know, elements

964
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: that recruits have to hit like they do it you

965
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Dubb for instance. You know you don't see them with

966
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: surprise recruits on Sunday. They they know they're eighteen twenty

967
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: guys because they've gone through the process and it takes

968
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: them a little bit longer. But they're not going to

969
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: full inch. They're probably not going to miss some places.

970
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: They didn't go to the CFP last year and they

971
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: got to go early on some guys. And I think

972
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: that that's an element that leads to it, and it's

973
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: an area that I would I would love to see adjusted.

974
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: You talk about the relationships between coaches and players in

975
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: high school or lack thereof, and once they get on campus.

976
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: And this may be somewhat of a dumb question, but

977
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: I'm curious to what extent will coaches be it an

978
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, a head coach when they're with a quarterback

979
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: and you talked about sitting with Mitch Mustain, But to

980
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: what extent will they say, this is why we run

981
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: this kind of play here, this is why when the

982
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: defense is doing this, we attack them in this way.

983
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 3: How much do coaches look at it in the sort

984
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: of way of well, it doesn't it doesn't concern you,

985
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: why we do this?

986
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: Just do this?

987
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: And do the better coaches make it more clear? Does

988
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: Chris Peterson, does David shad As you know, did Chip Kelly?

989
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Did you know?

990
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: Does Jimbo Fisher really sit down with a quarterback and

991
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: say this is why we do this? And then this

992
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: is there that element.

993
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: When you're ready for it, you know, I think, you know,

994
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: let's just play out the quarterback room right now. And

995
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: I think this is true in the end. It's definitely

996
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: truing in the NFL, and I believe it's true in college.

997
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: For the most part, you're talking to your starter, you know,

998
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: you know you have to and you have to keep

999
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: pushing Sam Josh Jake, you know, just talking pack twelve

1000
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and you know Luke, like four of the top

1001
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: guys in America coming out or you know, heading the

1002
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: next year. You have to talk to the starter and

1003
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: push him, and you have got to hope that those other.

1004
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: Guys are following along.

1005
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: And there's an element of you know, that's when it

1006
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: gets hard for a lot of young quarterbacks. It's like, man,

1007
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: like I'm not the guy anymore. You know, I'm not

1008
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: getting not getting the attention. My my basic question is

1009
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: really basic and he ain't time for that. Like, there's

1010
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: there's an.

1011
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: Element of that for sure. But what I love the

1012
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: dancer of that, like did I just bashed on them,

1013
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 4: is the rule and the off season of you get.

1014
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: Your eight hours and coaches can kind of be around them.

1015
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 4: Now.

1016
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: Granted, satellite camps aren't helping that type of development at

1017
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: all because they still exist on massive levels. You know,

1018
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: we all think that satellite camps went away and they haven't.

1019
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: They just kind of change some of the rules around them,

1020
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: so you don't get all that off season time that

1021
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: could help develop a young guy.

1022
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: But that's why you have graduate assistance and while you

1023
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: have young coaches do it. But I think it's progressive

1024
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 4: based learning. I really do. And the way I have

1025
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: always looked at the quarterback position and receiver as well.

1026
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Is a year one, it's no your assignment, right, So

1027
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: the QB it's like, no, the route combination, you know

1028
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: and know you're one key art if it's curl flat, Like,

1029
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: who am I looking at?

1030
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: Based on one or two high? That's what I got

1031
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: to do, you know, cool man operate there.

1032
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: Year two it's okay, you know, maybe you know the

1033
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: linebacker being plussed a little bit and the defense end

1034
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: being light in is stay means there's going to be

1035
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: a field pressure coming this way. Oh I got you,

1036
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: you know, and I can come backside to my alert.

1037
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: On a post year three, it's like I know what's coming,

1038
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not only going to give you a dummy audible,

1039
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: but I'm give you dumby audible and I'm come back

1040
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: a real audible and I'm gonna throw for six that

1041
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: is to me, the evolution that it's just the reality

1042
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: of twenty seven practices. If you come in and aren't

1043
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: there early or yeah, you can go through player run practices,

1044
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: but you're really not getting the coaching necessary because coaches

1045
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: are in satellite camps, they take vacation in July and

1046
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: then they're getting their starter ready, which is why when

1047
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: you see freshman play early, it's fascinating.

1048
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1049
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: I always think that it's funny when we hear from

1050
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: fans of man, he's terrible, this guy can't play, And

1051
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, like you even comprehend what he's trying

1052
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: to get done as well as we don't even know

1053
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: the personal side of his life and the attention and

1054
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: the pressure and the expectation. And now they're not our age, right,

1055
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: they're not forty, they're not fifty, they're not grown men.

1056
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: They're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old in a world where

1057
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: I can get at you on social whenever I want.

1058
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a quarterback who retired a couple

1059
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: of years ago, and a lot of it was because

1060
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: he struggled with all the negativity on social media, you know,

1061
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: and that it's just real and we can say whatever

1062
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: we want. You can be old school and say oh

1063
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: he's soft, he can't play blah blah blah, but your bs.

1064
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: Then you don't get this generation.

1065
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, It's why I I'm really into watching and

1066
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: I know it's touchy subject for thirteen reasons. Why to me,

1067
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful element of giving us an insight into

1068
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: high school and a reminder of like, oh yeah, that

1069
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: does kind of happen. Oh man, like this is this

1070
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: bus an element of it. And it doesn't mean you're

1071
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: soft as a coach. It means that you're empathetic. And

1072
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: there's a big difference.

1073
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1074
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Jim Morri is phenomenal at that. You know, he's one

1075
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: of the more intimidating guys I've been around. His players

1076
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: really want his sense of approval. But he's one of

1077
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: the most empathetic guys I've ever been around in terms

1078
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: of understanding what it like, what it needs to be

1079
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: a real man in Los ang Angelus and a young

1080
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: man and trying to become, you know, a superstar.

1081
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: And he gets that.

1082
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: And I think it's undervalued with him specifically, probably because

1083
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: you don't really talk about those stories. But the way

1084
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: that he handles players when they go through difficult times.

1085
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 2: You know, Mikay Warres is an example what's been written about.

1086
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: He's magical, he's brilliant there. And I think a lot

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00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: of coaches are aware of that now and you see

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00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: them trying to coach the full three sixty student athlete.

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Speaker 4: And be aware of it and answer your question on

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00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: what do you teach them? You're teaching them what they

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Speaker 4: can handle.

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Speaker 2: And if you think that you're teaching them the way

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00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: you call plays and your understanding of fifteen twenty thirty

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: years of coaching, then you're crazy. And You're got a

1095
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: kid's going to play slow and he's going to play poor,

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00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: and I think you have to be able to adjust

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00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: there or just get a kest to never playing a

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Speaker 2: young kid.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is all very good, very deep stuff. Again,

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Speaker 1: YOI Roth. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 4: Yo? You? What?

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00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: What kind of projects are you working on that that

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00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: people can check out?

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00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 4: Thanks?

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00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Man?

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00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just did a really fun one.

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00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: The answer is the Pacific Ocean tie. That's where you

1108
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: can find you.

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00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in the Atlantic here pretty soon.

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00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go s bea ritz this summer and San Sebastian,

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00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 2: so I'm kind of pumped about that. But but overall,

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00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: I just came back from Israel the Homeland, and uh

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00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: I went and spent time with I'm not sure people

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00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: or wherever. They have this thing called the Israeli Football League,

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00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: which is American football. It's owned by Robert Kraft, funded

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00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: by him, and it's a really cool league. You know, Tennessee,

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00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: for instance, sent over their old jerseys when they changed

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00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: from one brand to another. So the whole league last

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00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: year was rocking like old school Tennessee swag, from spikes

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Speaker 2: to gloves to whatever.

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Speaker 4: But it's a tackle league, it's a flag league. It's

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00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: men's and it's women's.

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Speaker 2: And I just did a doc SI series called We

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Speaker 2: All Speak Ball that just started coming out today and

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00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: we'll release all week long online so you can find

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00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: that stuff. But you know is twenty one Seed is

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00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: a group that did it. You could sit in on

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Speaker 2: all my social or at yo europ dot com. And

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Speaker 2: then I just did a short film called What Does

1130
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: It Mean to Love, which surprisingly keeps getting a ton

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Speaker 2: of play every day.

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Speaker 4: It's like another thousand.

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Speaker 2: Views, and it's the same thing I went over in

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00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: Israel and I was like, man, it's the holiest place

1135
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: in the world, the most conflicted place in the world,

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00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: and clearly with the political element that we're.

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00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: Dealing with, it's a touchy subject.

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00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, what if we just ask people

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00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: in the Old City of Jerusalem, from Arabs to Muslims,

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00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: to Christians to Jews like that one question And it

1141
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: was pretty fascinating to hear. And you know, for me

1142
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: in the off season, I like diving into that side

1143
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: of entertainment and storytelling and I think it only makes

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00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: me a better analyst and more empathetic to the you know,

1145
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: to the big picture world when I get to dive

1146
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: back into football, come you know a mid July for

1147
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: media days, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: So that those two have been pretty fun off season

1149
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: projects for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we will be sure to post links

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: on our site before we let you go. I know

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00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: you're a busy guy. In thirty seconds or less, I

1153
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: need your optimistic words of encouragement and congratulations for are

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00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: soon to be married co host Dan.

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00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: No on you.

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00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Since you're a young grasshopper, we've been through a lot

1157
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: yep from one coast.

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00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 4: To the other, but all in all, you've been a seeker.

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00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: You're been a seeker of great food, been a seeker

1160
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 2: of nerding out in football, and you've been a seeker.

1161
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 4: What an amazing partner.

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00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: Fortunately, you and your beautiful soon to be wife have

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: found each other and I couldn't be more excited for

1164
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: the nuptials, the wedding, the dance party. And the only

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00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: thing I'll leave you with is a subtle, simple reminder

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00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: that the only thing that matters in life is love

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00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: and that to me, I believe it is the language

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Speaker 2: of the world. The Alchemist has said it best in

1169
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: the Favorite book.

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00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: I know you're a fan of it. I am as well,

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: and I think that that is the simple joy that

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Speaker 4: I help you live with every day.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to run through a wall of I am

1174
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: ready shut it down.

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Speaker 1: Boys.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's a great way to go out. Ty,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Yogi got it man. I love you, guys.

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00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Okay Dan again, Yogi Wroth. Find him on the PAC

1180
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Speaker 1: twelve network. Find him on Twitter at Yoga Roth. Yogi's

1181
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: an interesting guy. He's into a lot of really cool things.

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Speaker 1: And what I like about what he gave us this evening,

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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: He's not just looking at it from a pure football perspective,

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00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: as I think is the natural impulse here on a

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00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: college football show, right, he tends to look at the

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00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: entire individual, learn the learner. You heard him say it

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of times. He's really a deep guy and

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00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: comes at this from a fresh perspective, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it can get easy to sort of look at

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00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: players you cover as commodities, right, like, oh, this is

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00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: the best running back, this is this offensive line is garbage,

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00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: and that they're just sort of pieces that we move

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00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: around and talk about. But Yogi does I think a

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00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: really good job of of understanding the people he covers,

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00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: and it spends his time around. So a really welcome perspective,

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00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: I would say, especially when you know we all have

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00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: to deal with idiots like you and I exactly.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Daniel, I will see you on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I am excited. I'm I'm gonna put the pool together

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Speaker 1: and be hearing about that. At some point. You're not

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Speaker 1: having a traditional wedding, at least not as traditional as mine.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's pretty there. It's not as out there

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00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: as you think, tie it will be. It will be

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00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: a unique challenge for me as we are. You're gonna

1205
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: come hungry. I will come hungry.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a good one tie. And I'm

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00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: told there will be enough food. I'm told there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be it's a big band tie. There's gonna be a

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00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 3: big dance floor.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we've got I think the location is ideal, so

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine anything is going to uh to get

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Speaker 3: in your way of having fun.

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