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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

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Speaker 1: Back in January of.

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Speaker 2: This year, there was a prediction that was made on

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Speaker 2: this show. And the prediction that was made on this show,

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Speaker 2: I just want to start by playing it.

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Speaker 1: You said this.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make a prediction right now, Ben, this

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Speaker 3: is not what I like. My prediction is, in December

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, Joe Biden will pardon Hunter Biden. Really,

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Speaker 3: that's my prediction. He'll be after the election, very likely

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Speaker 3: win or lose. You say he'll do it no matter

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Speaker 3: what win or lose. If Biden were to win, I

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Speaker 3: think he'll delay the pardon until right before Hunter goes

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Speaker 3: to jail. But if Biden is losing, I'd put the

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Speaker 3: odds at ninety five percent that in December of this year,

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Speaker 3: if Biden has just lost the general election, that he

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Speaker 3: pardons his son and he gives him a scot free

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Speaker 3: get out of jail pass. And so understand, Hunter's legal

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Speaker 3: strategy is delay eleven months, delay eleven months, don't go

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Speaker 3: to jail for eleven months, and then Daddy gives you

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Speaker 3: get out of jail free card. And it's why the

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Speaker 3: House needs to keep their eye on the ball.

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Speaker 2: That was January the twelfth Center, twenty twenty four. If

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Speaker 2: you were listening to Verdict, then this was one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent predicted and it happened exactly how you said it would.

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Speaker 3: Well to be fair, it was ninety five percent predicted then,

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Speaker 3: and then last summer I raised it to one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: But if you listen to Verdict, you knew this was

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Speaker 3: going to happen. It is ten fifty three pm on

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Speaker 3: December first. We are recording this podcast right now. On

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Speaker 3: December first, Joe Biden did exactly what we told you

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Speaker 3: was going to do eleven months ago. He pardoned his

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Speaker 3: son Hunter Biden. Never mind about the corruption, never mind

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Speaker 3: about the gun offenses, never mind about the drug offenses,

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Speaker 3: never mind about the tax offenses. No man is above

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Speaker 3: the law unless your name is Joe Biden and the

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Speaker 3: entire Biden family. We're going to break that down, explain

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Speaker 3: what just happened with the Hunter Biden pardon. Today, we're

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Speaker 3: also going to talk about Donald Trump's nomination of Cash

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Speaker 3: Bettel as the director of the FBI. The left is

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Speaker 3: losing their mind. The Democrats are freaking out. The media

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Speaker 3: freaking out and why this is a very good thing

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Speaker 3: for America. And finally a terrific victory, the Chinese communists

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Speaker 3: have released three Americans from unjust imprisonment, including Mark Sweden.

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Speaker 3: Mark Swodin was a Texan who was imprisoned in China

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Speaker 3: for twelve years. I've been leading the fight to bring

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Speaker 3: Mark home. Mark is back in America. Three Americans are

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Speaker 3: back in America. We're going to talk about that as well.

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Speaker 2: It's such an incredible story, especially around Thanksgiving, and it's

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Speaker 2: start with the narrative and work our way back. When

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Speaker 2: this news broke tonight, we were all on text message

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Speaker 2: and this was the first part was Joe Biden pardons

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Speaker 2: soun Hunter. I wasn't surprised by it. You predicted it.

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Speaker 2: You weren't surprised by. What I was surprised was the

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Speaker 2: amount of time of this of that it covers. He's

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Speaker 2: basically off the for everything that involves the Biden crime family.

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Speaker 2: And this is after Joe Biden repeatedly promised that he

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Speaker 1: That was also all a lie.

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Speaker 2: And I think the part that was the most shocking

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Speaker 2: want to start with that they're all saying to the

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Speaker 2: American people will look, he already lost his son, one

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Speaker 2: son who died a brain cancer. This is just a

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Speaker 2: dad being a dad. I don't buy that for a second.

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Speaker 2: I think this is him protecting the crime family and

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Speaker 3: Well, listen what Joe Biden said today. He put out

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Speaker 3: a lengthy statement. Let me read his statement. Then we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about what it means. Here's what Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden said. Quote today, I signed a pardon for my

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Speaker 3: son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said

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Speaker 3: I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision making,

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Speaker 3: and I kept my word even as I watched my

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Speaker 3: son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted without aggravating factors like

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Speaker 3: use in a crime, multiple purchases, are buying a weapon

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Speaker 3: interest and penalties are typically given non criminal resolutions. It

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Speaker 3: is clear that Hunter was treated differently. The charges in

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Speaker 3: his case came about only after several of my political

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Speaker 3: opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose

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Speaker 3: my election. Then a carefully negotiated plea deal agreed to

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Speaker 3: resolution of Hunter's cases. No reasonable person who looks at

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Speaker 3: and that is wrong. There has been an effort to

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Speaker 3: In trying to break Hunter, they've tried to break me.

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Speaker 3: There's no reason to believe it will stop here. Enough

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Speaker 3: be fair minded. Here's the truth. I believe in the

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Speaker 3: justice system. But as I have wrestled with this, I

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Speaker 3: also believe raw politics has infected this process, and it

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Speaker 3: has led to a miscarriage of justice. And once I

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Speaker 3: delaying it further. I hope Americans will understand why a

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Speaker 3: let me start with his ending. I understand why I

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Speaker 3: said in January, Joe Biden would pardon Hunter Biden. And

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Speaker 3: understand that to anyone who listens to this podcast, it's

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Speaker 3: not a surprise. It is obvious Hunter Biden is not

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Speaker 3: some lonely crackhead who just sort of went astray. That's

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Speaker 3: what Joe Biden, the entire White House has tried to

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Speaker 3: paint him as. Hunter Biden's business was selling access to Daddy.

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Speaker 3: The real crook here is Joe Biden. And this is

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Speaker 3: something that in this podcast we've broken down in elaborate detail,

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Speaker 3: the evidence of criminality that Joe Biden, the Biden family,

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Speaker 3: they made tens of millions of dollars selling favors from

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden. Listen, nobody pays Hunter Biden. Nobody pays a

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Speaker 3: crackhead money when he has no marketable services. He was

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Speaker 3: not selling anything other than Daddy. So when Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: Number One, I'll tell you this. If you use crack

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Speaker 1: You will go to jail.

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Speaker 3: You don't. People not named Biden don't get away with that.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you also defraud the federal government

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Speaker 3: That is true as well. But the real corruption. Listen,

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Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department decline to prosecute, deliberately allow the

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Speaker 3: egregious examples of corruption, everything that implicated the big guy. Understand,

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Speaker 3: this is all about Joe Biden. It's not about Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: So when Joe Biden entered this pardon, it is about

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Speaker 3: protecting his own rear. End. Does he love his son short?

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Speaker 3: Does he want to protect his son? Sure, it's why

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Speaker 3: I was certain he would grant this pardon. But if

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Speaker 3: say Joe Biden's claiming, well, gosh, it's just unfair he

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Speaker 3: let me say finally, in Joe Biden's statement, he talks about, well,

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Speaker 3: there was a plea deal from the Department of Justice

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Speaker 3: and then it collapsed. Well, you know what, this podcast

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Speaker 3: played a significant role in causing that that that plea

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Speaker 3: deal would corrupt out to collapse. And why because we

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Speaker 3: shined a light on it. Because it was indefensible that

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Speaker 3: the wrist, which Joe Biden said, well, gosh, that would

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Speaker 3: be fair. Don't punish my son. And understand, this is

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Speaker 3: not about Hunter. This is about Joe.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the length of this pardon, because I

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Speaker 2: think it's not just the pardon for these two charges,

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Speaker 2: it's also Hey, this covers virtually all of the corruption

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Speaker 2: and all of the sins of the Biden crime family.

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Speaker 2: When they knew they had millions of dowers coming into

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Speaker 2: their son's bank account that was spending it on drugs

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Speaker 2: and and everything else that we know about from his laptop.

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Speaker 2: He said, Hey, you can't go after my son basically

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Speaker 2: for anything. This is a pardon for all the bad

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Speaker 2: things we've done.

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Speaker 3: Well, and listen, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: make it as broad as possible because you don't care

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Speaker 3: about the press blowback. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden's lost, Kamala Harris's lost. They don't care about

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Speaker 3: the political consequences. That's why it was gonna be December.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't gonna be November. It wasn't gonna be January, December.

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Speaker 4: The President would not pardon or community sensus for it.

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Speaker 4: The President's stay.

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Speaker 5: It's still a no. It's still an egg, always nail.

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Speaker 5: Will he pardoned his son?

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Speaker 1: Well, partner his son?

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Speaker 2: And she's actually banging her hand on the podium. You

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Speaker 4: I know you said not a lot of changed this yesterday,

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Speaker 7: I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He is overcome

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Speaker 6: As we sit here in Normandy, your son Hunter is

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Speaker 1: Will he pardon his son?

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Speaker 3: Look understand, every person listening to Joe Biden, every person

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Speaker 2: asking the question, Okay, is there anything that you can

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Speaker 3: Well, here is the text of the pardon that Joe

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Speaker 3: I don't know that you could write a broader pardon

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Speaker 3: The pardon power under the Constitution is exceptionally broad. The

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Speaker 3: In this case, he's pardoning every single federal offense Hunter

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Speaker 2: Final question, Yes, Hunter Biden is pardon for everything in

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Speaker 3: Well, let me be clear, we have seen pardons this

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what they did. Now, your question was what

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Speaker 2: Incredible and there's gonna be a lot of people listening

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Speaker 3: May By the way, let me jump in, Ben, there

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Speaker 3: the Department of Justice prosecutes Joe Biden's brother, Joe Biden's brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm not aware of any evidence that he has dementia,

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Speaker 2: Oh, hold on, I'm gonna ask now, prediction. You made

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's impossible, but I doubt it. I

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Speaker 3: The idea that you can't come back and prosecute you

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Speaker 3: And so I think much of the conduct that Joe's

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Speaker 1: Incredible. I want to deal with it.

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Speaker 2: So we originally thought we were going to start this

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Speaker 2: show tonight. Sator talking about the FBI and Caspitel being

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Speaker 2: named the FBI director.

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Speaker 1: This is a name that Democrats do not like. Caspitel.

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Speaker 2: So, if you want to understand history, this is a

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Speaker 2: guy that actually the deep state went after when he

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Speaker 2: was working for Donald Trump the first time with Russia, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 2: and he found out about it that when apparently Google,

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Speaker 2: five years after the fact cinema letter saying hey, we

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Speaker 2: had to disclose to you now that we gave a

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Speaker 2: bunch of your information over to the FBI. That's the

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Speaker 2: now the guy that will be running the FBI if

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Speaker 2: he gets confirmed.

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Speaker 3: Your reaction, well, I think this is a strong nomination.

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Speaker 3: I think we're seeing Democrats and we're seeing the media

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Speaker 3: freaking out, and they're freaking out not because they think

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Speaker 3: cash Betel is unqualified, but rather because they believe he

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Speaker 3: will actually do what Trump promised he would do. They

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Speaker 3: believe he will actually clean out the corruption at the FBI,

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Speaker 3: that he will take on the partisans that have burrowed

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Speaker 3: into senior career positions. This is something we've been calling

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Speaker 3: for on this podcast for a long time, to have

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Speaker 3: leadership that is willing to really root out the partisanship

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Speaker 3: and corruption and say no more. The FBI needs to

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Speaker 3: restore its integrity. I think this is a nomination. The

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Speaker 3: reason people are losing their minds is because they believe

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Speaker 3: cash Betel is going to do exactly what Trump said

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Speaker 3: he would do.

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Speaker 2: And Senator You actually talked about this on Sunday morning

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Speaker 2: on facein Nation on CBS, and it was very interesting

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Speaker 2: to see the back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to that for people that may have

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Speaker 1: missed it.

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Speaker 8: Cash Battel suggested by Trump as the new leader of

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Speaker 8: the FBI. How enthusiastic are you about that?

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I think cash Battel is a very strong nominee. I

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Speaker 3: think the entire slate of cabinet nominees President Trump is

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Speaker 3: put forward is very strong. I believe every one of

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Speaker 3: these cabinet nominees is going to be confirmed by the Senate.

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Speaker 3: I think cash Battel is going to be confirmed by

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Speaker 3: the Senate. You look at his back. He has a

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Speaker 3: serious professional background. He was a prosecutor, He was a

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Speaker 3: public defender. He was a senior intelligence staffer on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 3: He was a senior intelligence staffer in the White House.

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Speaker 3: He was the chief of staff of the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 3: He was the deputy Director of National Intelligence. And I

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Speaker 3: got to say all of the weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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Speaker 3: All of the people pulling their hair out are exactly

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Speaker 3: the people who are dismayed about having a real reformer

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Speaker 3: come into the FBI and clean out the corrupted partisans

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Speaker 3: who sadly have burrowed into senior career positions at the FBI.

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Speaker 3: The FBI and the Department of Justice, or two institutions

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Speaker 3: incredibly important to the rule of law in the United States.

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Speaker 3: I revere both, and one of the most tragic consequences

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Speaker 3: of four years of Joe Biden Kamala Harris is both

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Speaker 3: DOJ and the FBI have been politicized and weaponized. And

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Speaker 3: I think cash Pttel is a very strong nominee to

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Speaker 3: take on the partisan corruption in the FBI.

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Speaker 8: As you know, Senator, there isn't a vacancy at the

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Speaker 8: top of the FBI. What should become of Christopher Ray

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Speaker 8: appointed by President Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think he'll make a choice. I think either

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Speaker 3: he will resign or President Trump will fire him. But

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Speaker 3: it's no secret to anybody, including Chris Ray, that he

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Speaker 3: is not going to continue to serve as the head

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Speaker 3: of the FBI under Donald Trump. Listen, if you look

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Speaker 3: at James Comy and Chris Ray, there has never been

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Speaker 3: a period in our nation's history where the FBI has

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Speaker 3: suffered a greater loss of respect, where more Americans doubt

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Speaker 3: the fundamental integrity of the FBI. And it's because James

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Speaker 3: Comy and Chris Ray presided over allowing the FBI to

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Speaker 3: become a partisan cudgel, to be used to target parents

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Speaker 3: at school board meetings, to be used to target people

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Speaker 3: who chose not to take the COVID vaccine, to be

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Speaker 3: used to target President Trump, and to target the political

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Speaker 3: opponents of Joe Biden the White House. It is tragic.

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Speaker 3: That is not what the FBI is for. That is

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Speaker 3: not what the DOJ is for. And I got to say,

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Speaker 3: Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, I think together are a

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Speaker 3: very strong slate of nominees to go and restore integrity

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Speaker 3: to both institutions.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it can be better said than that.

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Speaker 2: And that's why there's so many that are freaked out

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Speaker 2: over Patel, because he's going to go in and do

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Speaker 2: his job the way it's supposed to be done. And

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Speaker 2: also that means part of the part of this is clearinghouse.

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Speaker 2: Clearinghouse and the political partisans that are in there that

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Speaker 2: have weaponized the government.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and we've seen it. You know. I

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Speaker 3: wrote a book called Justice Corrupted, How the Left is

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Speaker 3: weaponized the legal system, and in the book, I described how,

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Speaker 3: starting with Barack Obama, we saw the Department of Justice

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Speaker 3: and the FBI and the CIA and the alphabet soup

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Speaker 3: of the federal government turned into a weapon to target

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Speaker 3: and persecute the political enemies of Barack Obama. When Trump

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Speaker 3: became president, those partisans what they did is they went

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Speaker 3: into senior career positions in the agencies and from day one,

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Speaker 3: from the first day of Trump's first term, they waged

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Speaker 3: war on Donald Trump from within the deep state. They

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Speaker 3: wanted to destroy him, they wanted to stop his agenda.

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Speaker 3: They hated him. And then when Joe Biden became president,

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Speaker 3: they came out in the open. They were brazen, They

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Speaker 3: that they were completely that they were not pretending anymore.

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Speaker 3: And so listen, as I said, I think Cash Barttel

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Speaker 3: will be confirmed, and when he is, I think it

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Speaker 3: is going to be hugely important that he followed through

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Speaker 3: on those promises to get rid of the partisans. And listen,

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Speaker 3: a point I made. Major Garrett was pressing back saying,

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Speaker 3: when this is terrible that Chris Ray would be fired. Listen,

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Speaker 3: in the entire history of the FBI, we have never

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Speaker 3: seen the respect for the FBI diminished as greatly as

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Speaker 3: it has been under Chris Ray and under James coming

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Speaker 3: before him. The American people no longer trust the integrity

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Speaker 3: of the FBI. That is Listen with James Comy, I

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Speaker 3: think he's a hard partisan. I think he was the

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Speaker 3: point of the spear with Chris Ray. I think it's different.

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Speaker 3: I actually think Chris Ray he's not a Democrat, he's

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Speaker 3: a Republican, he's not a leftist. But he views his

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Speaker 3: job as protecting the institution. And I think he made

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Speaker 3: a fundamental mistake that he believes that protecting the career

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Speaker 3: senior officials, who themselves are vicious partisans. I think he

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Speaker 3: thinks that's somehow protecting the FBI, where the result is

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Speaker 3: that the public respect of the FBI has been profoundly damaged.

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Speaker 3: I think the new director of the FBI has a

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Speaker 3: very important job to root out those partisans and to

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Speaker 3: bring it back to a fidelity to law. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I think the other political prosecutions that have been brought

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Speaker 3: are natural candidates for the pardon power if you look

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Speaker 3: at Donald Trump. I think Donald Trump should pardon those

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Speaker 3: people who've been prosecuted for January sixth who did not

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Speaker 3: engage in crimes of violence. If you engage in a

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Speaker 3: crime of violence, if you physically and violently assaulted a

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Speaker 3: police officer, you shouldn't be pardoned. You should face criminal

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Speaker 3: prosecution if you committed a crime of violence against a

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Speaker 3: police officer. But if you were engaged in a peaceful protest,

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Speaker 3: I think those are natural candidates for pardons. I also

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Speaker 3: think Lauren Handy, who is the pro life protester who's

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Speaker 3: right now serving six years in federal prison for nonviolent

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Speaker 3: protest against abortion, I think Lauren Handy is a natural

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Speaker 3: candidate for a pardon from President Trump. I think there's

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Speaker 3: a very substantial likelihood she will receive a pardon. I

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Speaker 3: think the nonviolent January sixth protesters are likely to receive pardons,

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Speaker 3: and that is going to cause Democrats in the media

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Speaker 3: to lose their mind, because not only are they happy

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Speaker 3: to look the other way at the weaponization of the

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice and the FBI, they are vested in

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Speaker 3: defending that weaponization, and is that is a mandate understand.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump campaigned to the American people saying I will

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Speaker 3: root out this corruption, and I think this nomination and

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Speaker 3: his following through on that promise is fundamentally about respecting democracy.

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Speaker 3: The American people said, yes, we don't want the federal

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Speaker 3: government weaponized against the political opposition of the White House.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am into that.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Senator, this is such an important story and

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Speaker 2: I hope that everybody listening will actually take this podcast today.

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Speaker 2: Share it on acts, shared it on Instagram, share it

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Speaker 2: on Facebook, wherever you are on social media. Text it

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Speaker 2: to your friends, because the story that we're about to

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Speaker 2: talk about is a story that really the media is

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Speaker 2: just not covering. It is something that you've also led on,

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Speaker 2: especially being a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

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Speaker 2: There was not one, not two, but three Americans that

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Speaker 2: were detained for years in China that have now been released.

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Speaker 2: Give a quick recap of just how long they've been there,

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Speaker 2: but also why this happened now.

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Speaker 3: Well, so there were three Americans who returned from China.

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Speaker 3: They've been imprisoned in China for for years. One of

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Speaker 3: them is a Texan. One of them is someone named

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Speaker 3: named Mark Swedan. The other two are Kayli and John

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Speaker 3: Leung So. Mark Swedan is a Texan. He's from Houston.

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Speaker 3: His mother is Catherine Swedan. I've spoken to Catherine multiple times.

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Speaker 3: She is from Luling, Texas. Mark Swedan has been in

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Speaker 3: jail in China for twelve years and it was a

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Speaker 3: completely bogus charge. It was a trumped up charge, and

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Speaker 3: the Chinese government was persecuting him as an American. I've

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Speaker 3: spoken out on Mark Swedan's behalf multiple times. I authored

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Speaker 3: a resolution that passed the Senate unanimously calling for Mark

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Speaker 3: Swedan's release. I've raised his case over and over and

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Speaker 3: over again, and with the Biden administration, I'll give them

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Speaker 3: some credit. They leaned in in a significant way and

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Speaker 3: they got him home. He is back in Texas today.

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Speaker 2: And this is also something that you talked about on

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Speaker 2: Face the Nation. I want people to hear part of

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Speaker 2: what you had to say.

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Speaker 8: Well, can you tell us about the three Americans released

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Speaker 8: by China who were in San Antonio? Have you been

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Speaker 8: in touch with them and do you have any concerns

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Speaker 8: about the contours of that swap.

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Speaker 3: Well, at this stage, we don't know all of the

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Speaker 3: details of the contours of the swap, but I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you I am celebrating the return of three Americans, especially

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Speaker 3: Mark Swede. And Mark Sweden is a Texan from Houston.

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Speaker 3: His mom, Catherine is from Luling, Texas. I've talked with

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Speaker 3: Catherine many times. I authored and passed a resolution in

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Speaker 3: the Senate that passed unanimously calling for Mark Swedan's return

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Speaker 3: to America. He spent twelve years unjustly imprisoned in communist China.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you I.

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Speaker 3: Have raised it directly with the Foreign Minister of China.

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Speaker 3: I've raised it with President Biden. I've raised it with

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Tony Blanket, and I will give them

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Speaker 3: credit on this. Tony Blenken, just two weeks ago was

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Speaker 3: the most recent time I spoke with him about Mark Swedan.

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Speaker 3: And the administration has pressed the Chinese government. And Mark

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Speaker 3: Sweden is back home with his mother, who has prayed

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Speaker 3: for him, who has loved loved him. I want to

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Speaker 3: say Mark, welcome home, Catherine, Congratulations. I told you this

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Speaker 3: day would come. This is a time where all Texans

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Speaker 3: and all Americans should be celebrating.

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Speaker 8: Very quickly, Senator Cruz, because I also know you care

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Speaker 8: about the case.

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Speaker 1: Of Austin Tice.

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Speaker 8: Do you have any sense that the rebel gains in

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Speaker 8: Syria of the recent vintage will have any chance of

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Speaker 8: unlocking Austin Tye's freedom.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I certainly hope and pray Austin Tice needs to come home,

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Speaker 3: and I hope and pray. Listen, there's a combination of

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Speaker 3: two things working one. As Joe Biden is in the

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Speaker 3: process of transitioning out any outgoing president is looking to

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Speaker 3: try to get some final wins, I would encourage him,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure he is doing everything he can to

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Speaker 3: bring Austin Tice home, to bring the hostages in Gaza home,

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Speaker 3: both the Israelis and the Americans bring them home in

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Speaker 3: this window. I also think President Trump coming into office

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Speaker 3: on January twentieth, the enemies of America, I think are

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Speaker 3: afraid of President Trump. That is a moment. I hope

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Speaker 3: we have a moment right now that is very much

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Speaker 3: like the end of the Jimmy Carter administration, right before

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Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan came in and we saw on January twentieth

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Speaker 3: our hostages in Iran released. I think in significant part

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Speaker 3: because the Ayatola was afraid of Reagan. I hope a

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Speaker 3: similar dynamic is playing out. And if we can see

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Speaker 3: more hostages come home, that would be caused for enormous celebration.

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Speaker 2: Enormous celebration that is one hundred percent accurate because for

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Speaker 2: these families, as you mentioned, this is a day they've

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Speaker 2: been waiting now for years.

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Speaker 3: No, that's absolutely right, and so the fact that we've

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Speaker 3: got three Americans back from China, that's great. I hope

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Speaker 3: we see more hostages coming back.

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