1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. What is something? And I'm gonna stick 6 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: with the gold gloves And I'm sorry to say I 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated. And I didn't think this 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: was going to be an issue because it didn't really 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: get the reviews, good positive reviews, and so I wasn't worried. 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: It made a lot of money. I'm happy when anything 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: makes money. You know, that's great making that money. But 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the problem was it shouldn't have won the Best Drama 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: put it in a musical category. First of all. Okay, 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: I was confused. I had to like check. I was like, oh, 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: they mistakenly put it in the Best Drama. Those categories 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: are such trash, seriously seriously, like the comedy music just 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: we don't thought anything over here. Category. There's like one 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: like actual musical produced a year now, and then you 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: have A Star is Born and uh, which is a 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: drama sure, but it's also a musical drama. And then 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and then Bohemian Rhapsody, which is basically just a concert film, 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: like a c G a concert film. Um, then that's 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the musical too. But the issue for me is that 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: as a gay HIV positive man working in this society 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: to have the icon of queer HIV positive representation, whether 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: he was out at the time or not, he is 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: like very much associated with it. You know. It's like 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: it's like making a movie about Keith Herring without including 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: any of the gay sex or the HIV. Like they 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: allude to all of it a lot there is there. 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: They treat Freddie's homosexuality as like a curse that brings 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: him down. They treat it as like the thing that 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: ruined Queen, you know, and I just I'm like, I 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I just couldn't leave. That's the direction they went with 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: the movie. No, I can't believe that the movie, but 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's being honored, you know, like like 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: this makes us feel better when literally, like all the 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: homosexuality that is portrayed in the in the movie is 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: like passing glances at like dirty cock sucking bars, you know, 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: like dark temptations. They treat it like it's like a 41 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: heroin addiction or something what made his music what it was. 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: It's who made him who he was. It's a part 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: of who he is. And yeah, I know exactly what 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: you mean by that. And they're like and and the 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: like his poor suffering wife and it's like sure, but 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: also like that's not that's not the reality of their relationship. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: They also funcked with the timeline hard, so like it's 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: not even a true like like true story, it's like 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: based on inspired by the life of Queen and then 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: and then sucking the rest of Queen. Oh well, only 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: two of them, I guess. John Deacon didn't m okay 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: any of and didn't like sign off on all of it. 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: But but the but the other two, Brian mayn Um 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: and Drummer he they were they were m It seems 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: like they wanted to save the legacy and not make 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Freddie out to be the like fucking flamboyant, like proud 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: motherfucker that he was. He was a peacock. He was 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: a peacock. And you saw the peacock part, but you 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: didn't see the like the things that made him a peacock, right, 60 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: why he loved peacocks so much, you know, so so 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: overrated boheman hapsody, I mean Golden Globes, you know whatever. 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Ellen at the end of last week had Kevin Hart 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: on her show on her shoulder. On her shoulder, yes, 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: uh and great talent, please cut that out. He's very 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: power uh. And she basically was trying to, you know, 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: make it so that he would come back as the 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Oscar host. She was trying to, you know, walk through 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the controversy with him, and you know, she was making 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: some valid points that like he had apologized ten years ago, 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: and you know, they were walking through it and he 71 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: got into like a little bit of a weird thing. 72 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: She was basically like, look, we want you to come 73 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: back and host the Oscars, like everybody wants you to 74 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: do it, like please do it. And he was like, nah, 75 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: because these people are like these trolls. If I come back, 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: the trolls win. Uh. And then she just was like, well, okay, 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm not going to accept that you 78 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: are hosting the Oscars. Let's go to break. It was 79 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: just like the biggest she just like big dictum so 80 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: much was it was really I don't know. Ellen has 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: an impressive aura about her. She just basically is like, 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I am making this willful. Yeah, willful is a good 83 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: way of putting it. I think we have a clip 84 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: from the show you you have grown, you have apologized, 85 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: you're apologizing again right now. You've done it. Don't let 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: those people win host the Oscars. So that was after 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: he objected to her. She had already said that he objected. 88 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: He was like, well, you know, these people, though I'm 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: afraid of being attacked, they're gonna attack me, which they are. 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: If he hosts the Oscars, there's gonna be like another 91 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: can't come out and say I have more to lose 92 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: by doing this than not doing it right exactly the 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: smarter move for me as a business person and as 94 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: a human being. He's like not walking into this trap. 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: And she was like, uh okay, yeah, I hear you. 96 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: We still want you to host the Oscars. Everybody chair, 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: we're going to break. He apologize. It's basically he said 98 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: he apologized back when it happened and took the joke 99 00:05:54,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: out of his rotation. I mean, I blast. I remember 100 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: when when he went on on like Instagram or Snapchat 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, it didn't seem like he was he wasn't 102 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: really trying to apologize and I get though. I like 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: the idea though that you know, you have to there 104 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: has to be a way for people to redeem themselves 105 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 1: for sure, because you can do it in the past 106 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: and you show growth or whatever. But I haven't seen 107 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: the interview, but from what I read it, it didn't 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: seem like Ellen really pushed him to like demonstrate any 109 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of growth in this interview. More so like, hey, 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: I think it's fine and well, I mean, she is 111 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: as as somebody who is like a huge person for 112 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: the gay community, and you know what came out before, 113 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: like a lot of people wanted her to. I'm sure 114 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: she she talks about that and her latest special that 115 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of people who made money off her 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: were like, no, no, no, no, no, why don't you 117 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: why don't you go back to just pretend for a 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: little while that she was kind of saying, all right, 119 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand out here and you know, say that 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: we as a community can forgive you. And I think 121 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: he when when he said he wasn't gonna do the 122 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: oscars anymore, he also apologized at that time. Again, so 123 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, like I I do think 124 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: his tone was weird. Like during the interview, because it 125 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: was he started making it more about like people were 126 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: trying to attack him, and it was all about an 127 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: attack on him and not the issues. So I get, 128 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: I get both. I get your point. I get what 129 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: she's trying to say as well. But it's just funny 130 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: that she's incredibly layered though, because it's they I know, 131 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: comedians that when they were younger had bits making fun 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: of homeless people, and then as they got older and 133 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: had more experience in life, realized like, oh, we're all 134 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: like a like one bad decision away from being that person. Right, 135 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: because but when they started doing stand up at twenty, 136 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: you don't understand in that You're like, what do they 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: why would you do that? Don't be you know, so 138 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: being hailed for that that growth um and then apologizing. 139 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: But they also where it's a weird. What it is 140 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: is it's two business people having a conference, right, and 141 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: it's a weird. It's not about art and it's not 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: about any of these issues. It's about money at this 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: weird point when you put him on the spot to 144 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: do these things, I think it's a it's a weird 145 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: power dynamic more than anything else. Yeah, that's what I 146 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was most I found most notable about 147 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the conversation was like it wasn't clear what they had 148 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: agreed to ahead of time, but it did seem like 149 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: she was just like, yeah, well here's where we're leaving it. 150 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: You should do the Oscars and that's on you. Uh, 151 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: super producer nixt stuff just asked what's in it for her? 152 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean other than that people 153 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: are happened on her show, and I think other some 154 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: people were saying that they wanted her to host in 155 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: because he wasn't hosting, So maybe she wants to take 156 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: her name out of that or I don't know, or 157 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: she's trying to speak for the entire l g B 158 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: t Q community is by being Ellen. But I know 159 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: people who are in like the black queer community, who 160 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: are like, why don't you apologize to black queer people too, 161 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of his comedy is, like you know, 162 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: is entrenched in sort of culturally this idea of being home. 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I have to see the whole thing, 164 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: but it seemed like everyone's in a tough spot. Yeah, 165 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Ellen came out when it wasn't cool and did a 166 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: lot of grandiose things for a lot of and made 167 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of strides for people that didn't want her to, 168 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: but she bettered everyone else's lives for it. There's probably 169 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: an ego there that she has that's earned or unearned. 170 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: She was like, listen, this is getting out of hand, 171 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: and I'm sure like some of the attacks that Kevin 172 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Hard or whatever work get weird in person know where 173 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: It's just like, listen, that was ten or fifteen years ago. 174 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: I was an idiot kid talking about this bravado. Look 175 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: at me, I'm five ft. Whatever I have to do, 176 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and this is an act. And then people taking what 177 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: he said and taking it on their own thing and 178 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: making it about their agenda. And then he's a lightning rod, 179 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: which comes with the territory of being that big and famous. 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: So that's another thing we're talking about is two large 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: entities having a sit down conversation deciding what's good for culture, 182 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: which is a weird thing that it's two giant egos, 183 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to do when they're speaking 184 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: for so many millions of people. I just I think 185 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: it's very it's a strange. It's just strange. And also 186 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: the oscars are strange where it's like it's clear that 187 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: acting as an art form and it's a craft and 188 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: these people care about it deeply, but they're also ego maniacs, 189 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: so they want everyone in the country to care. But 190 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: these art films that they don't give a funk a barrel. 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: And then the right, well, we should put popular films 192 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: in there, so we were what we're damn right. No, 193 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: they already have a reward. They made billions of dollars. Yeah, 194 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the Oscars still don't have a host. I'm available. I'll 195 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: do it for one year. There you go, have you 196 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: and Jamie Loft great thirty minutes long and they pulled 197 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: the plug. It's just I don't know because I don't 198 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: know what do you mean? What do you mean? You 199 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: don't know? I don't think his apology is he's apologizing, 200 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: it's not sincere. That's why I'm not convinced. And it 201 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: it's a little strange to me when he's when you 202 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: say I already apologized, you know that, it's like just 203 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: sort of like I said, the thing that I have 204 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: to do to move this thing forward, rather than I 205 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: need to actually demonstrate growth and understanding and you can 206 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: do that to a certain extent, and I don't think. 207 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to like carry this cross forever. 208 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: And because that's but that's where I'm I'm like, I 209 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: feel like with Allen, she could have asked him some 210 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: tough questions or like been a little more like let 211 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: me like, let me press you a little bit about this, 212 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: and for him to be like, you know what, you're right, 213 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, then her just saying, you've 214 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: already apologized. Don't let these people win. I mean, I 215 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: don't know. That's where I'm like, I just don't understand. 216 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: Like he already said he didn't want to do it, 217 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: he already apologized. Why is she bringing it back up? 218 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: Because yeah, because and that's the question that I haven't 219 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: Nick is asking, is what what's in it for her? 220 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Because it seems like she has a vested interest in 221 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: getting him to host UM and she did. I mean, 222 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: the conversation was like, and you and I have had 223 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: meals together since this where we've talked through this, So 224 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: she was like making reference to the fact that he 225 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: had done the stuff that you're asking him to do 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: in the public. So she's like saying, yeah, You've like 227 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: worked through that with me in the interview, but it's 228 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: not like it that's still him to say it. I 229 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: was like when Roseanne was like, I know this black 230 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: activist who was my heart, and I'm like, Okay, I 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: think Roseanne's just fucked up more than she's a racist. 232 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: I think has anybody asked her to host? I would 233 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: tune in. I would that that would be as the 234 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: monologue I'm excited about. And apparently Kevin Hart is considering 235 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: maybe by the time you hear this, he will have 236 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: accepted the job once again. So uh yeah, we'll see 237 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Ellen makes should happen, Ellen gets it done. Let's talk 238 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: briefly about this burnout article that people are talking about. 239 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Were you guys familiar with it. You've seeing lots of 240 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: millennials reacting to it as right about how we as 241 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: millennials are. We're in a constant state of being burnt out, 242 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: essentially because we're always on the clock, we need to 243 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: be reachable by mobile phone own. There's also the like 244 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: you always feel like you should be tweeting or doing 245 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: something on social media to build your brand, and that 246 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: that just leads to this feeling of burnout. Um that 247 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know is specific to the generation as 248 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: much as it's just specific to the world now. I 249 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who are, you know, older 250 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: than me, who lived this life and always well. But 251 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: I think the thing that might be a little more 252 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: specific to us generationally is like the lack of security 253 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: in terms of careers and the other things because we 254 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: were coming out like we're joining the workforce on either 255 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: side of the financial crisis where we had limited uh opportunity, 256 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: and then also like the weight of not having health 257 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: insurance and all these other costs of living now that 258 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: are purely like new things for our generation where our 259 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: parents are like, hey, I was able to go to 260 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: college and this that in the other way and also 261 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: provide for a family coming up, the economy was strong, 262 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: and now it's just like a lot of young people 263 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: having to balance many different things and not making and 264 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: making sure that all of the bills are paid. Yeah. Yeah, Generationally, 265 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: I agree, it's like the middle class is shrinking no 266 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: matter what age you are, And unfortunately a lot of 267 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: people who are post college tend to be middle class 268 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: because you're you are having to pay off debt and 269 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: you're also trying like you know, I'm thirty two years old, 270 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: about to be thirty three. I can take trips, I 271 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: can you know, I can live freely. Could I buy 272 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: a house? Fuck? No, you know, And part of that 273 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: is I live in Los Angeles. I could buy a 274 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: house and like Topeka. Um, but we're also fleeing sort 275 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: of the center of the country a little bit too. 276 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: So a lot of millennials have choose to live in 277 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: more expensive places. So some of it is sort of 278 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: just environmental, some of it is societal. But yeah, is 279 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: it the Internet? Probably? Yeah, it seems like it's people 280 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: really want to, Like you go on vacation. Those are 281 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: the times you're like really or you're just over the holidays, 282 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: but like everybody is on their phones more. It's like 283 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: more Instagram stories about your nieces. Look at these palm 284 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: trees where I'm laying out, Like you almost need to 285 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: have rules. If it's something that stresses you out to 286 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: be like, you gotta unplug at some point. Yeah, that 287 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: was the thing that really resonated with me. She wrote, 288 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: everything good is bad and bad is good. Like feeling 289 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: like you're fucking up when you're supposed to be relaxing 290 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: because you're not working and then only feeling okay about 291 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: yourself when you're working your ass off because you're like, oh, 292 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm justifying my existence. I was like, definitely ill. I mean, 293 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: not definitely. That's an over exaggeration, but you can hear 294 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: from my voice. I probably over exaggerate in times of 295 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: like when I want pity. But I was really really sick, 296 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of bed for two days, and I 297 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: was like, I feel like such a piece of ship, 298 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, I can't do anything. I'm what are 299 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: the rules which it's okay to be in capacity? Yeah, 300 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: And so you sort of almost have to like embrace 301 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: being set. I'm like, oh, I'm going to watch seven 302 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: episodes of ninety Day Fiance and it's fine because I 303 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: can't go anywhere. Those who disobey the Queen will die, 304 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: you know. So I've seen the finale, I just haven't 305 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: seen the tell all yet. It is spicy. I can't. 306 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, she needs to spin off, she needs her 307 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: own show. She is TV gold. I have no idea 308 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: what you're talking. I don't worry. That's why his body 309 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: is the craziest. I've never seen a man in shape 310 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: like that. He's in a bad way. But it's it's 311 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, when you see a pear shaped man and 312 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: you're taken aback. I think that's why Washington was able 313 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: to be our first president. If we had been living 314 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: in an arrow with like technology where we could see photos, 315 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: you'd be like, I don't know if a man with 316 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: wide set hips like that can be Washington. Washington was 317 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: pear shaped. He had a very feminine body. Junk in 318 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the trunk. Yeah. The other place where the argument about 319 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: it being a generational thing into focus is uh what 320 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: in the discussion, which actually takes up most of the article. 321 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Uh No, it's just the other generation and media's version 322 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: of millennials and being lazy and unreliable or late for things, 323 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: are unable to accomplish basic tasks, and it's like we're 324 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: we're like coming into a shitty economy. The workplace is 325 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: like a more hostile place than it's ever been in 326 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: technology has made our lives more difficult than they've been 327 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: in your experience, Yea, the errand paralysis thing was really 328 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of what struck me too, was sort of like 329 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: the idea that like, yeah, they were talking about there 330 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: was that piece that came out where a bunch of 331 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: money was like, I don't know if I can go 332 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: in the midterms, just like I don't know if I 333 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: can handle it, and people like, oh my god, can 334 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: you believe this, whereas they're also looking at how increasingly 335 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: like millennials like, we've found ways to do things more efficiently, 336 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: but things that were quire like mailing ship in and 337 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: those other things, just like we just freeze up. Like 338 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: they were talking about one person like hundreds of dollars 339 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: that didn't of clothing that didn't fit because they couldn't 340 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: just get their ship together enough to do it. Because 341 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: these are tasks that require a lot of energy. But 342 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: stay off, I'm wearing a bra right now that does 343 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: not fit because I was like, I don't know how 344 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: to send it back, Like I wear it, I own it, 345 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: it's my I wear every day. Does not fit, isn't comfortable, 346 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know what, it was sent to 347 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: my house, it's fine, and then Mo megans some money 348 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: so she can get and a new ring. I do 349 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: think that if there had been the Internet thirty years ago, 350 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: there would have been articles about like baby boomers, like 351 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I think it's just we're so insulated in our like thought, 352 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: we just analyze things so much more and I think 353 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot of it to a fault. And by the way, 354 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: there were articles about how baby boomers with pieces of 355 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: ships and there are different arguments because they were talking 356 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: they were right. Look at these fucking hit turns out 357 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: those articles were right. Sorry, baby boomers. There's just this 358 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: job posting in an article about this article that I 359 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: wanted to read that I think gets that, like something 360 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: sort of the mindset that caused the problem we're describing. Yeah, 361 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: so there's someone posted this job posting. A twenty eight 362 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: year old entrepreneur is detailing the requirements to be his 363 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: part time assistant. He says, if you want to clock 364 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: in and clock out of your job, this isn't for you, 365 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: and reminds people that high performers work until their tasks 366 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: are done, not just until the clock runs out. I 367 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, well, you know, I understand that to 368 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: a point, and I don't write because, like I see people, 369 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: younger people too have just terrible work ethic in general, 370 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: and I think maybe that's what they're getting at. But 371 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: the idea that it's like you are not allowed to 372 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: separate your personal time from your work time is an 373 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: absurd thing to sort of ask of someone in just 374 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: to be someone's assistant entrepreneur. But I also see people 375 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: who are like at other jobs I've worked at where 376 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: young people are like wildly like just literally like trying 377 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: to run the clock out and then be like all right, 378 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: I gotta oh, don't call me, you don't can't do anything. 379 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: But maybe they're just taking care of themselves. Year old 380 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: is just dickhead, you know, like I've seen you know, 381 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: we live in l A. We've met assistance of very 382 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: very famous people, and some of them I would say, 383 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm really really happy and don't like they're listen, is 384 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: it twenty four hours? Yeah? But are they gonna text 385 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: me at two am and be like I want a 386 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: milk bar crack pie? Now, they're like respectful, normal human 387 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: beings that understand boundaries. This sounds like he wants to 388 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: do it for the sake of like I work hard, 389 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: you work, and this is a work hard, play hard, 390 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: or just kind of like I'm gonna fucking just boss 391 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: you the funk around. That's all I need. I want 392 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: to be able to yell at Yeah, and what is 393 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: his business? He probably makes like silly swim trunks. Yeah, 394 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: and check out the article, the burnout article. If if 395 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: any of this resonates with you, I will say the 396 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: first person they interview is a millennial talking about how 397 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: he can't vote, and he he was the least relatable 398 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: all of all the complaints. So don't get to person 399 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: who let the clothes rot in their closet. I was like, yes, bro, 400 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm so bad at return, Like, I'll make it work. 401 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: My dog will eat fucking like mouse food. And by 402 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: the way, it's worth going through like this whole article 403 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: and think about which of these things are good for 404 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: corporations and which of them are bad. Every single one 405 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: is like good for corporation. We've just turned into get 406 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: they get more like we keep the ship because we 407 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: don't want to return it. And also we're like the 408 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: perfect worker bees like it's it's all just America buying 409 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: more and more into the you know, corporate ocracy. I 410 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: got to get a work life balance. We got to 411 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: look at these denmarks. And you know these Nordic countries 412 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: that listen, do they have the highest rate of alcoholism? Sure, 413 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: they have the most vacation days. Yes, you know, like 414 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: come on, well they'll say, that's why. Another reason why 415 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: democratic socialism is becoming more popular amongst millennials is because 416 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: all this, all these pressures of having to provide your 417 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: own healthcare and like going bankrupt has got people been like, 418 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: hold the fun up, man, this is stressing me the 419 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: funk out. Why Why are we the only fucking country 420 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: where I have to worry about? Right? And so I 421 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: think that's like, you know, I think as part of 422 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: the self care is realizing the things that we actually 423 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be responsible for and what you know, the corporations 424 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: are employers and government needs to actually step in now. Well, 425 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: and I think women, you know, women talk a lot 426 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: about there was a British article that came out about 427 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: safety work, and so women are having to do even 428 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: added number of like I have to go this way 429 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: so I don't get fucking killed, Like there's all these 430 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: extra things. Were just like, oh, I'm gonna try and 431 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: survive truly truly, like I can't live certain places, walk 432 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: certain streets or some of that, like New York, right, 433 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: like the community they called it, like the Women's Commuter 434 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: talks about how women have to be more more consider 435 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: it or not consider it, but have to consider the 436 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: risks of like the modes of transportation they take or 437 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: the way they get to someone. I would pick apartments 438 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: in New York where I was like, listen, this place 439 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: is more expensive, but I'll be taking less cars home 440 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: because it won't be I won't be walking fourteen blocks 441 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: from train station to house at two a on because you, 442 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot do that. It's it is too frightening. 443 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: All right, we are going to take a quick break 444 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back, and we 445 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: are now joined by super producer on A Hosnier and 446 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: host of Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans. What's up, guys? Hey? Uh, 447 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk to you guys about the 448 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: Saudi teenager Rahafon, who is basically ran away from her 449 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: family barricaded herself in a Bangkok airport hotel room to 450 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: prevent officials from sending her back to her family. Uh 451 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: And Robert, I wanted to get you on specifically because 452 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: we kind of covered a similar ish story of a 453 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: young woman having to run away from her family in 454 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Pakistan basically and and using a hotel is sort of 455 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: an underground railroad a while back. Yeah, yeah, we had 456 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: we had that woman talked to us about her family 457 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: essentially like trying to force her into marriage and needing 458 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: to escape through this hotel. And they kind of this 459 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: pack Pakistani hotel like already had like situate, like they 460 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: had plans in place for this sort of thing because 461 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: it happened often enough. And we did another article a 462 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: couple of years earlier, UH with a woman who lives 463 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: in or lived in Denmark, uh and so grew up 464 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: in you know, a pretty pretty western nation, but whose 465 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: family was very fundamentalist, and who was afraid of essentially 466 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: being murdered for the fact that she wasn't religious and 467 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: that she was dating guys and you know, doing all 468 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: these things that her family had forbidden her from doing. 469 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: And her fear was that she would go back home 470 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: to Pakistan a vacation at some point and essentially never 471 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: come back, which which happens to a number of women 472 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: who are in that sort of situation. So we've we've 473 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: dealt with, or we dealt with back at Cracked a 474 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: couple of different women coming forward with stories of this 475 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Yeah, and and you were saying that 476 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you're familiar with, Oh yeah, it happens all the time 477 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: where you know, like the Dubai, the King of Dubai's 478 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: daughter shik Latifa bin Muhammad al Muktim tried to escape 479 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: because she was basically being held held in a hospital, 480 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: just drugged because she was considered too wild by her father. 481 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: And you know, there was another story of a woman. 482 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: This was last year. She was trying to get to 483 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: Australia from Kuwait and she was held up in the 484 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: Philippines airport and basically sent back to Saudi Arabian has 485 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: not been heard from since Jesus Christ. So those are 486 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: the stories of when this doesn't work out well um 487 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: or doesn't work out for the for the person trying 488 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: to escape. But it sounds like Rahaf did all of 489 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: the things she would need to do to ensure that 490 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 1: that couldn't happen to her. Like she she learned her 491 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: English was good enough that she was able to get 492 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: across the details of her situation and like the videos, 493 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: and she was smart enough to like she had a 494 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: really I think I think the smartest thing she did 495 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: was record herself in that barricaded hotel room, because the 496 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: visuals of that were just so like of course that 497 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: was going to to take off and like once you 498 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: get I think she got something like forty five thousand 499 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Twitter followers in a couple of hours, which is like, 500 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: if you're a young woman in her situation, that's the 501 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: only thing that's going to protect you is creating enough 502 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: of a media spectacle that they can't just send you home. 503 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Does this I mean it does it ever happen to sons? 504 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean it must, but it tends to happen more 505 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: and more to women and daughters. I think we we've 506 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: definitely Corre actually interviewed uh, some young men who were, 507 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, living in more fundamentalist cultures, who were in 508 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the closet and you know, having to hide that from 509 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: their family and had often had to consider, you know, 510 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: running away from their home country because yeah, again it's 511 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: it's a situation where you're fighting for your life. It's 512 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: not uh, you know, I want to be able to 513 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: go to the mall. It's like Jesus, these people right 514 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: for being who you are, but they have The men 515 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: in these situations have a lot more options. I met 516 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: a young Saudi Arabian male couple when I was in 517 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the airport in a mon Jordan's who had been living 518 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: in San Francisco for most of the time, uh and 519 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: who something was clearly going on, but came back to 520 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia every couple of years to go see their families. 521 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: And it seemed like the situation was, you know, their 522 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: families had enough money that they could pretty much do 523 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: what they wanted and it was better for everyone if 524 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: they just did their thing, you know, outside of Saudi 525 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: Arabia and came back every couple of years to keep 526 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: up appearances. Like and I don't think someone like Rahaf 527 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: would would have that opportunity, even though she comes from 528 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: that prominent and wealthy of a family. Now, I feel 529 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: like the men get to go on they basically has 530 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: go on vacation, and then if a woman tries, it's like, no, 531 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: you're a woman. You need to understand your place. You 532 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: can't just be running around with anyone like your your 533 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: places in your home with your family until you're basically 534 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: arranged to be married to someone, right y. Yeah, So 535 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: now like Thailand, are they keeping her at the embassy 536 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: or is she going to be what? What's what's her 537 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: fate so far? I mean, she's been handed over to 538 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: the care of the United Nations and she's somewhere in 539 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Bangkok with them right now, and I think from what 540 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: I've read it could take five to seven days to 541 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: get a decision. It sounds like they're going to basically 542 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: put her plea of of asylum status over to the 543 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Australians in sort of a formal way, And it sounds 544 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: like from what Australia said, if for no reason other 545 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: than the prominence of this story, they're probably going to 546 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: grant her asylum status. So that that would be My 547 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: guess is that she winds up living living down under Mate. 548 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: So for her, a happy ending, but you know, an 549 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: ending where she survives. But for many if you don't 550 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: go viral, you're sent back. Yeah. I mean, like one 551 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: of the girls that time about last year who got 552 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: caught up DNA Alle. She didn't have a chance and 553 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: she was trying to go viral. There was like a 554 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: hashtag save dan Alle, and yeah, she couldn't do it, 555 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: and she got sent back and she hasn't been heard 556 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: from since. She had videos posted where she didn't show 557 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: her face because she didn't want anyone, you know, to 558 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: like actually report her if they saw her. Um. But 559 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: if she if this woman gets sent back, there is 560 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: a chance she will be killed for her behavior. So yeah, 561 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: all right, well thanks for joining us, Robert. And obviously 562 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: it's a horrible story, but I think one that a 563 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: lot of people aren't aware is happening in the world, 564 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: like in the modern world. And yeah, thanks for joining us, Anna, 565 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you hope they become activists, like the more 566 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: that can get out, the more that they can share 567 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: their story and be like, no, this is what's happening. 568 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: I know where this girl lives. This girl lives, This 569 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: girl lives, because if there's no survivors of it, then 570 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: there's no one to carry on this horror, right, yeah, well, 571 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: and then if there's an enough international pressure because you know, like, yeah, 572 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: it's on I mean us, are we even a part 573 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: of the U N I mean on paper. Let's talk 574 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: about this wall, you guys. I'm sure I love Wall. Yes, 575 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: it's like I love LAMB. Yeah. I just love Wall though. 576 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: So two nights ago, the President interjected himself into our 577 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: nightly TV viewing. Not for me, not for my I 578 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: avoided it. How do you do that? I watched the 579 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan Beast Club Show, and it's a fucking mess. 580 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: MTV knows where their priorities. Yeah, in a way, I 581 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: may have mentally fucked myself worse by watching watching the 582 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Oval Office thing, but that is a mess too. So 583 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the President came on and made a kind of kinder, 584 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: gentler case for his monument to racism. He was saying 585 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: that this is about compassion and you know, uh, he's 586 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: using imagery of like holding the hands of women and 587 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: children at the border as painted the families as people 588 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: he's protecting. Uh, and said that he's willing to compromise 589 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: with the Democrats, which none of that is really accurate, 590 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: but you know, Pelosi and Schumer then came on afterwards 591 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: and seemed like they had prepared to respond to the 592 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: typical Trump which is like having an eight minute temper tantrum. 593 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: And so conservatives are saying Trump won DEM's zero In 594 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: response to like how that went, the media seems to 595 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: be not as convinced. The mainstream media, Well, everyone was like, 596 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: we knew this is gonna be a bunch of lies 597 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: from him. What's the point of airing that when like 598 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: years before, they didn't want to air Obama talking about 599 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: DOCCA the whole other fucking thing. And so let's talk 600 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: about that. So this is something that presidents, you know, 601 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: use their power to do every once in a while, 602 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: and they almost always are given the latitude by the 603 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: networks to come on and address the nation, right like, 604 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: and usually it's done. I heard somebody put it that 605 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: usually the president is coming on to soothe a scared 606 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: nation or calm a scared nation, and this time the 607 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: president was using it to scare a calm nation. Right. 608 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: But there has been cases where the president tried to 609 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: do this and the networks were like, no, that's too partisan. 610 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: I guess was was their argument against Obama. Yes, that's wild. 611 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean they just felt like, you didn't warrant the 612 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: nation's attention to talk about data, right. Um, yeah, because 613 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: I think it was just like some local affiliates did it, 614 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: but like on the national level they like but I 615 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: think just because they know he's going to say some 616 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: fucking wacky shit that people tune in. But like, the 617 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: odd part is more people watch the rebuttal than they 618 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: did even the Oval Office address, right, So that's got 619 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: to be chapping his little diaper awareness. Yeah, I mean 620 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: it was like a four percent increase, and I'm sure 621 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: it was just people tuning in late right, um, like 622 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: social media and seeing that it was trending. Although like 623 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of two worst people to have do 624 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: the rebuttal talking about immigration or even though they were 625 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: focusing on other issues. But like you'll put some people 626 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: who like I think I can speak with a little 627 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: more passion, right than like the two figureheads of the party. 628 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: That was like one thing I was like combined age 629 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: of something. Yeah. Yeah, they just seemed I don't know, 630 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't a wildly effective rebuttal that said, it was 631 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: two minutes long and it's not like yeah, and also 632 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: they rebuttal to what you know anyway, Like it's just 633 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: he was going to do his thing, just fan the 634 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: flames of xenophobia, but put it under the guys of compassion. 635 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of the conservative analysis is taking Trump's 636 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: address and the Democratic rebuttal just completely on their own, 637 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: completely independent of context of you know the fact that 638 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Trump hasn't really put himself in a position to persuade 639 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: anybody who's not already a part of his base because 640 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: he lies constantly, and I think people are well aware 641 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: of that. So if he started suddenly starts saying compassion 642 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: and hand holding, like nobody's gonna be persuaded by that. 643 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: And by handholding, I mean I'm holding the child in 644 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the parents hands to break them apart, right, but I'm 645 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: technically holding their hands, but it's just you know, on 646 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: linked that because I'm kidnapping children. One of the things 647 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: that people speculated he might end up doing in this 648 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: address to the nation was declaring a state of emergency, 649 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: which he did not do, but that was kind of 650 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: in the conversation in the lead up to this address, 651 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: and that's actually really scary. There was this Atlantic article 652 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: back in December talking about the basically the insane broad 653 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: hours that are granted any president by their ability to 654 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: declare an emergency um and this was actually they wrote 655 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: this before the conversation about him declaring an emergency to 656 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: build the wall. Yeah, but we should be really very 657 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: afraid of him setting that precedent or just the fact 658 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: that he now is thinking in those terms, because I've 659 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: said before on this podcast that I don't think he's 660 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: going out without a literal fight, Like I think he's 661 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: going to find a way to bring the Office and 662 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: America to new all time loads and create some sort 663 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: of constitutional crisis before he's either voted out or impeached 664 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: out of office, and this article really kind of outlines 665 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: in detail how he could do that. And I mean 666 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: they set up a scenario at the end of the 667 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: article where Trump declares a national emergency and the lead 668 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: up to the election because he's losing and he claims 669 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: to have secret in eligence that Iran is trying to 670 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: hack the election in his opponent's favor, and they basically 671 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: lay out, like this, point by point way that he 672 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: could use emergency powers. And the only way that it 673 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: was unbelievable was that it suggested that Trump gave a 674 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: ship what people think and like that is has never 675 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: been the case, like and he seems way more of 676 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: like a smashing grab type person who's just gonna grab 677 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: as much power as he can and not give a 678 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: funk about like whether people are protesting or angry about 679 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: how he's doing it right, And so basically they're just 680 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: making the argument that legally a president can basically do 681 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: whatever they want. We have been relying on the fact 682 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: that no president to this point has been willing to 683 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: just ignore other politicians and the will of the majority 684 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: of the people, and that is right, George Bush, and 685 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: but not like he was just trying to He just 686 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: wanted a war and you don't want to be a 687 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: war room. Yeah, I think in this sense of like 688 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: the most self serving aspect of it, not just for 689 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: the military industrial complex to get a check, but like, yeah, yeah, 690 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: I just hope that Trump just doesn't I hope he 691 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: gets tired of this, Like I hope he's not having fun, 692 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: like if he wants to just like I hadn't done well. 693 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: It seemed like even then, like when he told reporters 694 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: about like him going to the border was just a 695 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: photo op and he's like, yeah, because those people think 696 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: I should go, I don't think it's going to change anything. 697 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: And he was like gesturing to Sarah Huckabee and like 698 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: Kelly and Conway like like I don't want to go, 699 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: but they say I have to. Right. So I don't 700 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: know if he I'm hoping that he just does not 701 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: enjoy this enough to the point where he's like I'm done. Yeah, 702 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: we'll see something. There was an interesting guy, someone who 703 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: was an adviser to Bush also foresaw a scenario which 704 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: Trump takes a plea deal with d o J to 705 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: resign the office and leave peacefully if he gets some 706 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: kind of immunity for everything. But I just don't. I 707 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: can't see that would be to see to think that 708 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: he could take some kind of deal and walk out 709 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: of here, I would be like, I'm tired of any 710 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm through with any argument that he like does the 711 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: calm thing that we want him to do. It really 712 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: is like, you know, when when you're a sports fan 713 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: like that, I've heard Bill Simmons talk about how like 714 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: you always want to do the thing that the opposing 715 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: team's fans don't want you to do, and like that's 716 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: what Trump Like, you don't want to like push the 717 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: issue or like you know, be you don't want the 718 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: opposing team to be super aggressive and play to their strengths. 719 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: And I feel like we're always wishing slash kind of 720 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: assuming that Trump is going to eventually just kind of 721 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, go away quietly, and I just don't. I 722 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: think we need to be prepared for that never to happen. Right, Well, yeah, 723 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: that but the reason he would do is to stay 724 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: out of jail and keep every all his kids out 725 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: of jail, right, which is that that's the thing he 726 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: doesn't absolutely fears because if you what are dying, he's 727 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: definitely self serving. Yeah, oh he I just don't think 728 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: he hears wind. He fears wind, he fears rain, and 729 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: he fears himself going to prison and people making fun 730 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: of him for his children going to prison. I don't 731 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: think he really gives a shit about anybody except for 732 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: him and Ivanka going to prison. I know when that 733 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: sucks your your d J t J. And he's like, 734 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: I don't know you, right, are you? Yeah? And super 735 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: Producer Nick just pointed out that there's still speculation that 736 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: that might have been what happened with Nixon, because Nixon 737 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: was equally like on the hook power crazy, I can 738 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: launch nuclear bombs if I want, like drunk in the 739 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: White House type of loose cannon throughout his presidency, and 740 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: their speculation that that's basically how they got him to 741 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: go quietly was by saying, you pardon me, and I'll 742 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: go quietly. Hard in me. Do you have any great 743 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: poop on? Yes? All right, we're gonna take a quick break. 744 00:40:50,600 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back and back. Well, we got to 745 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: bring in super producer on a hose Nier on this Mike, 746 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: get up in there, get up off of that thing. 747 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: Hi Hi, Oh so sorry, there's electricity coming shooting through 748 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: the room. So super producer on, you left the office 749 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: for three hours yesterday to engage in No, I didn't. 750 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: What is known as a Bachelor fantasy draft because when 751 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: you work on a Bachelor pocket what's a bachelor podcast called? 752 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: That's not on this network. What's it called again, It's 753 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: called will you accept this? Yeah? So if you didn't know, however, 754 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: this new year, it's Colton the Virgin is the Bachelor player. Yeah, 755 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: he's former football player, current bachelor. So he was runner 756 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: up on the Bachelorette. He was cut fourth. He was 757 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: a fourth person cut. What's the formula? If you're just cut, 758 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how deep you go. It's just like 759 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: if you're cut later in a later stage you get 760 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: to be the bachelor. The formula is the focus group 761 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: who is popular? But he was one of the least popular. 762 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: People were pissed he got picked because he's a virgin. 763 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: He was boring. All he does is cry. He clearly 764 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's ready for a relationship. Subsect that 765 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: believes he's closet. He was the fourth he came in fourth, 766 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: or he was the fourth person fourth. He came in 767 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: fourth place. Okay, okay. I also think he benefited from 768 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise, that girl from Arkansas. He just 769 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: kept Cowton Colton. I believe he went home. That is true. 770 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: The first episode was her cult. It's really true. It 771 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: was they sucked her over. Her edit was that she's 772 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: a psycho who's obsessed with cold. Yeah, was not on. 773 00:42:51,600 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: So basically what happened was he got caught if dear, 774 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: dear with sound like but you know, it's always funny 775 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: when they're like that and they're like I got my 776 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: PhD in social work and you're like, it's all learned. 777 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons I left. And they and 778 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: the people do it. The old ladies are the worst 779 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: because they're like, how how you get away from the 780 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: old lady? I know your fucking game. So basically what 781 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: happened he came in fourth place. He was cut before 782 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: the Fantasy suits because he's a virgin, and he literally 783 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: goes up to Chris Harrison, who's the host, and goes, 784 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: who do I do? When Chris Harrison's like, you're a 785 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 1: grown ass man, figure out you don't need to lose 786 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: your virginity on TV Sir, it came out that Tia, 787 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: who was a contestant on um Ari season. Him and 788 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: Tia had had a relationship previous to the season, and 789 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: so Tia was still obsessed with him and told Becca. 790 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: So that kind of helped in Becca deciding to kind 791 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: of send him on his day. Yeah, I don't know. 792 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: Becca was the bachelorette that cut him and kind of 793 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: was like, tis my friend. I don't want to do 794 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: so Anyways, the Bachelor this year is a virgin, so 795 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: that the whole thing. A former football player and uh one, 796 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: so you draft various Yes, So we do a draft 797 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: on our podcast where we go through just the images 798 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: and the bios, which is truly the most it's fucked up. 799 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: We're fucked up people on this episode. We go through 800 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: just by their literally their looks and then being like 801 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: my favorite colors yellow, that's actually one of them. It's like, 802 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: that's not interesting. Uh, And then we pick our top three, 803 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: we pick our top crazy, and we pick our drunk 804 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: on the first night. Are your top three? So my 805 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: number one is Hannah g my number two is Bree 806 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: who will get to and my number three is Kalin 807 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: and my top Craziest, Aaron, what does top crazy? It 808 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: just means they're going to be like Psycho the whole 809 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: season and everyone's gonna hate them like all the other 810 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Are there points you get for doing specific things? No, 811 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: we're just just you don't know. Eventually one person will 812 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: probably emerge with someone everyone unanimously agrees is the crazy one. Yeah, 813 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: and then my drunk on the night is Erica, who 814 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: in her bio is self described as the nut so 815 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: she's probably be wasted. Tell us about pick number two now, 816 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of people were tweeting me about this. 817 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: I never saw this video, but what's going on? So 818 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: bree a video? A clip dropped of her during her 819 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: when she walks out of the limo to introduce herself 820 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: to UM and I think we have a clip. Yes, 821 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: she has a gimmick that is mind blowing. A nick 822 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you. You get a nice accent. 823 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: Where are you from? Um? The accent it's Australian. I 824 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: was hoping that you're kind of a sucker for accents 825 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: and made you think about it. I love it. I'll 826 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: see you inside all right, Okay, sounds good. I'm not 827 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: really Australian, but you have to do what you can 828 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: to stand out. Yeah, ye, Vicine as Australian, that's like 829 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: going to the NFL combine and bringing in like a 830 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: baseball I'm going to stand out. A lack of her 831 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: voice afterward was just like fuck you, I don't care. 832 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: What I did was wrong and I'm not sorry for it. 833 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: She's not here to make friends. It was I think 834 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: you're starting to realize that these girls are now at 835 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: that age where they literally grew up watching the show. 836 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: They understand the formula. And I'll tell you what Brie 837 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: is doing. Bree is saying, I don't really give a 838 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 1: shit about Colton, but I'm here to act the fool 839 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: enough where i end up on Paradise and then boom, 840 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: my Instagram followers go up and I'm the spawn con 841 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: Queen with my thirst traps and I'm literally selling sugar 842 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: bear hair pill, gummy bear shit and uh diet T. 843 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: And that's the plan. And you see it from day one. 844 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: You know who's acting a fool to get on Paradise 845 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: because they understand Jamila Jamil will be very disappointed to 846 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: her pushing that old dumb shit. It's like some of 847 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: those real world road rules people, They're like, for a while, 848 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: that was their job was going on. There's like weird 849 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: game challenge. Yeah, and that's how like CT. I think 850 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: he was living off of that for many years. Yeah, 851 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: but what's he up to now? Like, what what does 852 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: one do? What does the CT do after that career? 853 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's just like a probably motivational speaker. They 854 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: all find a way to be like, let me motivate, Yeah, 855 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: to do what I did. I started as a guy 856 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: from Boston. You know when d m you know, when 857 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: she got the cancer. It was really tough, but I 858 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: was born with this bone structure. All right, Well, thank you, 859 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: super producer around Hosnie, we will be checking in with you. 860 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: As Bree continues to make news. Uh in the world 861 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, She's like, I'm a shape shifter. She wins, 862 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: she wins. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, 863 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: there's a few things, Okay, I don't know which one 864 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: to political correctness, Okay, for sure, I feel like it's 865 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: hella overrated, especially right now right now. I just it's 866 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: a it's fraudulent. I feel like people do things under 867 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: the guise of political correctness where they don't actually mean 868 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: what they're saying. They just don't want to stir the 869 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: pot or say something offensive, but they still feel that 870 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: way inside, which is phony. Um and being in this 871 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: industry of entertainment and seeing that people are like casting 872 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: certain people because they look diverse, but they don't really 873 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: care about diversity. They just don't want to be called racist, 874 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: und right, it's so superficient. I'm tired of it because 875 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm a black person that obviously doesn't look traditionally black, 876 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: but like, I've been overlooked for so many things because 877 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: they want someone who's obviously looking black so that they 878 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: don't look racist. Like imagine, I remember one SNL was 879 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: casting when they were having they got called out for 880 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: not having any black women in the cast. And then 881 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: imagine if they had hired me, right, they'd have been like, 882 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: who of all the black women, you had to pick 883 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: this one? That shouldn't matter, right, I'm talented and I'm 884 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: right for the job, but they obviously had to go 885 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: with a more brown so they don't get called out again. 886 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: So and that's just a thing that I have to 887 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: deal with regularly. Um, But I know that other people 888 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: have to deal with it as well. It's like if 889 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: you're not representing what this particular agenda is, then you're 890 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 1: not good for it, which is not true at all. Yeah, 891 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: it's like it's almost like a thought stopping thing. Yeah, 892 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: political correctness, where you're just like, okay, and this is 893 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: the right thing to say, and then this fits into 894 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: that the right thing to say. I believe it. Right. 895 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Mackenzie Bezos uh and Jeff Bezos. 896 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: They announced that they were super amicably splitting after twenty 897 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: five years of marriage. This seems like something to aspire 898 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: to if you're going to get a divorce, Like the 899 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: way they're doing it, they just seem very positive. Well, 900 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: it seems like for the last year or something they 901 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: were separated, they're a trial separation and they were working 902 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: on it and then you know, but then they got 903 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: four kids, but I think they're mostly grown, so you know. Yeah, Well, 904 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, luckily for them or maybe from Mackenzie Washington, 905 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: the laws and Washington State and the lack of a 906 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: prenup means she she'll be getting half of his billion 907 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:12,479 Speaker 1: dollar fortunes. Will they be like the third and fourth 908 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: richest people in the world. Now, well, now he's going 909 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: to be belttle Bill Gates and then she becomes a 910 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: wealthiest woman on Earth Rights And how long have they 911 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 1: been together? And I think they said was in their 912 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: joint statement about their super amicable separation, is that they 913 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: were like, if we had known at the outset that 914 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: we were going to have these twenty five years, we 915 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: do it all over again. I think that's a good 916 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: way to think of it, you know, like, you know, 917 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: it was what it was, and it's over. Yeah, when 918 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: it's over, that's what happened. When you get to the 919 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: details of like what he's up to now, you get 920 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: into like the billionaire headspace, that's like, oh, you're on 921 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,760 Speaker 1: some next level ship because he's already dating his best 922 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: friend's wife. What wife, No? No, why current white? Current white. 923 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: So they're separated as well. They're separated now they planned 924 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: the separation. They're just gonna swap. This is like wife swap. 925 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's interesting. So it is somebody 926 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: who Miles grew up having a crush on Laura Sanchez, 927 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: Fox eleven News, TV Anchors, TV Locix. Oh yeah, oh, 928 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: you don't know the vibe of our show, Wait till 929 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: we do our Brett bay Or sketch because he's so bay. 930 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: Uh no, Yeah, Laurence Sanchez, I used to man, I 931 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: love her, yes, but she was what she was married 932 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: to Tony Gonzalez, I think before Patrick white Tony Gonzalez, 933 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: then Patrick Whitesell, who is like the co head of 934 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: w M E. Right, and then now she's climbing on 935 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: up to that Jeff Bezos. Uh yeah, but it sounds 936 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: like Lauren Sanchez. She sounds like just based upon her 937 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: dating history and like she's been married twice. Is that what? 938 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: So she's probably age appropriate, right, Yeah, she's forty nine 939 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: that I love that. Well, yeah, it's I think, you know, 940 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: it's a good look for them. I guess if they're 941 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: splitting amicably, because there's nothing to say. The National Enquired 942 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: now take this with like nine million grains of salt, 943 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: was like, you know they were dating even before the 944 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: trial separation. Most people were like, no, once they separated, 945 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: that's when he started dating her. But a lot of 946 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: people are also like, does any of their split have 947 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: to do with because like about almost two years ago, 948 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: eighteen months ago, when like swoll Bezos came out, everyone 949 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: was like I missed swollen basics like suddenly he just 950 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: came out like Chappelle Chapelle and then made his head 951 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: look even smaller. That's sort of what like what Jeff 952 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: Bezos and a lot of people like, oh, I wonder 953 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: if that's when the split began. And he was like, 954 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: he's trying to get his group back, right. So there's 955 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: a couple of quotes from him that seemed like they're 956 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: veering in the this dude the creep direction, but actually 957 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't hate him for it. So he was like, 958 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: at a certain point, I was sort of a professional dater, 959 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: and I had to develop what he labeled women flow, 960 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: which is like the equivalent of deal flow, when a 961 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: Wall Street person is like, I won't have anything under 962 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: a ten million dollar equity investment. But then he said 963 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: the number one criterion was that I wanted a woman 964 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: who could get me out of a third world prison, 965 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: which is very specific, but like when you look at 966 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: Laura Sanchez, so first of all, his wife who is 967 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: separating from is actually very like smart Miles. We were saying, 968 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: Tony Morrison was her teacher at She was my greatest 969 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: student in literature or whatever taught her. That's and so 970 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: Laura Sanchez, uh, when she used to be you know, 971 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: man on the street reporter, local news reporter, which is 972 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: kind of a badass job. I have a friend who 973 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: did that, and she was like kicking down doors and 974 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: getting like punched and ship like it's a Laurence Sanz 975 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: was doing that. She was, especially when she did Good 976 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: Day to become to become a local news reporter, you 977 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: gotta be in the in the ship for a period 978 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: of your career. It's like training, right. But now she 979 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: has started a new career where she launched a business 980 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: where she is a helicopter pilot who shoots footage for films. 981 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 1: She shot footage for Dunkirk. She has a credit on Dunkirk. Yes, 982 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: she her company and she is a helicopter pilot, so 983 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 1: she learned how to be a helicopter pilot. Was like, man, 984 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: this is a lot of fun gils gilts. Yeah. So 985 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean he seems to be sticking with that because 986 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: it seems like she could stage a literal helicopter based 987 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: prison break from you know. He was like, tell me 988 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: about your skills, mom, a helicopter pilot. He's like, how 989 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: are you with lock picking? Picking, safe cracking? I speak 990 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: ninety languages, Yeah, it makes her disarma bomb. I know 991 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 1: how to do more code with my eyes. Yeah. There's 992 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: also some ship in the National Enquiry that was like 993 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: leaked text messages that are just creepy. But I don't 994 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: know if they're real. But if they are real, I 995 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: love you a Live Girl was a text he sent her. 996 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: What the fund does that mean? I love you, Comma 997 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: alive girl. Now it's better than I love you Alive girl. 998 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: But a Live Girl being a nickname is very weird. 999 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: It just sounds like an algorithm trying to fuck I 1000 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: love you Alive Girl, and then the other way said 1001 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: I will show you with my body and my lips 1002 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 1: and my eyes very soon. I want to hold you tight, 1003 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: I want to kiss your lips. I love you, I 1004 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: am in love with you. I want bump. All right, 1005 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please 1006 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 1007 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation, folks. 1008 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1009 00:55:47,840 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By Sta