Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 2: Hey, Bestie's Today on the bright Side, we're popping off
Speaker 2: and dishing on the biggest pop culture stories of the week.
Speaker 2: Is a wedding content creator, the hottest new edition you'll
Speaker 2: need on your big day.
Speaker 3: What is the Queen of Halloween have up or sleeve?
Speaker 3: This year?
Speaker 2: Us the parenting dilemma that's breaking the Internet. Joining us
Speaker 2: today is a beauty guru and bright Side Bestie Los
Speaker 2: Angeles co host and producer Kirby Johnson. It's Friday, September twentieth.
Speaker 2: I'm Simone Boyce.
Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robey and this is the bright Side from
Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to
Speaker 1: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day.
Speaker 2: Dgif Danielle. What a special week we've had on the show.
Speaker 2: Not only did we have some truly incredible guests, but
Speaker 2: we were also chosen by Apple Podcasts as this month's
Speaker 2: Spotlight pick.
Speaker 1: Can you believe how big that is? That is so major?
Speaker 1: Thank you to our friends at Apple. And when I
Speaker 1: think back on the week, a highlight for me was
Speaker 1: chatting with Julienne Huff ahead of the Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars premiere this week.
Speaker 2: Nine year old me is still processing the fact that
Speaker 2: we talked to the one and only Eve about her
Speaker 2: new memoir Who's That Girl, which is out now. And
Speaker 2: I mean Eve Rodsky has always has got me thinking
Speaker 2: about the division of labor in her homes.
Speaker 3: After talking with her.
Speaker 1: Ev Rodsky, I don't want to derail this podcast, but
Speaker 1: I could go on for hours about ev Rodsky.
Speaker 3: She breaks the brain.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like I'm sitting in on a masterclass.
Speaker 1: Every time I have the opportunity to speak with her,
Speaker 1: I rarely learn so much from one single person. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And you know, Simone, I feel like we have to
Speaker 1: take this moment in. We talked to Halle Berry on
Speaker 1: the show Surreal. I cannot get over the story about
Speaker 1: her doctor misdiagnosing her menopause symptoms for herpes.
Speaker 2: I will never get over that story. I'll never get
Speaker 2: over this wild I'm sure she won't either. And the
Speaker 2: week isn't over yet, y'all. We've got a great show
Speaker 2: for you today. But before we go there, it's time
Speaker 2: to spotlight our favorite moment of the week.
Speaker 4: YEP.
Speaker 1: Today we're spotlighting Alexin Ferrell, Falmouth, author of twelfth Night
Speaker 1: the summer YA pick for Reese's Book Club, and that's
Speaker 1: because her book, which spent four weeks on the New
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller list, is headed to the screen. So Hello,
Speaker 1: Sunshine just announced this week that they're partnering with Netflix
Speaker 1: to develop the book into a film. I am so
Speaker 1: excited for her. I'm so excited for us because we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to watch this.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth, Jinx,
Speaker 1: like we cannot wait for this story to come to
Speaker 1: life on the screen. Her book, twelfth Night with a K,
Speaker 1: is a reimagining of William Shakespeare's play twelfth Night with
Speaker 1: an N and the same play that inspired the iconic
Speaker 1: two thousand and six film She's a Man with Amanda Byn.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel the same way, Danielle,
Speaker 2: but I do feel like my entire childhood could be
Speaker 2: retold through William shakespeare reimaginings. They were just so they
Speaker 2: were such a big part of my childhood growing up.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch this one.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. And if you remember, we talked to
Speaker 1: Alexin Pharrell Faumos back in July and she told us
Speaker 1: all about how Shakespeare influenced her.
Speaker 5: I love Shakespeare and I read Twelve Night when I
Speaker 5: was in high school and just loved it. And I
Speaker 5: don't know why, it's just it's my favorite play. I
Speaker 5: think the silliness, the absurdity that is captured by Shakespeare
Speaker 5: is so brilliant to me.
Speaker 1: The full episode is available, so please check it out.
Speaker 1: If you haven't, we'll link it in our show notes.
Speaker 1: And Alexine, if you are listening, we are sending you
Speaker 1: a huge congratulations. You deserve all of this love and more.
Speaker 3: We love you, Alexian.
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of Reese's book Club, we've got a new
Speaker 2: fall young adult pick y'all. It's called Looking for Smoke
Speaker 2: by Ka Kobel, and it's a twisty who Done It
Speaker 2: filled with loss, betrayal, and some complex characters.
Speaker 1: Of course, sounds like the perfect book to curl up
Speaker 1: to this fall. What's it about?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: So I'm hearing that the story follows four main characters
Speaker 2: who've all become people of interest in a murder, and
Speaker 2: it's up to them to clear their names, even though
Speaker 2: one of them may have actually committed the crime. And
Speaker 2: it's up to us the readers to decide who we
Speaker 2: can trust.
Speaker 1: It really does sound like the perfect amount of spook
Speaker 1: for this season. I can't wait to check it out. Okay, Simon,
Speaker 1: it's time for today's show. Are you ready to pop off?
Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Joining us today as host, producer, and writer Kirby Johnson,
Speaker 2: who you all know from both our show and her
Speaker 2: podcast Los Angeles. Kirby, welcome back to the bright Side.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much. I am the world to be back.
Speaker 6: I had the best time with you too. The last time,
Speaker 6: I felt like we could have had like an four
Speaker 6: hour soiree. It was dangerous about all the events of
Speaker 6: the week, but I'm glad we contained it because now
Speaker 6: I'm back.
Speaker 1: Well, you're our go to girl and the internet's go
Speaker 1: to girl for skincare and makeup trends and celebrity content.
Speaker 1: And Simona and I just saw that you were at
Speaker 1: the Agatha All Along premiere this week. Yes, so we
Speaker 1: just had comedians say shares of meta on last week
Speaker 1: to talk about Agatha All Along. I want to know
Speaker 1: what the premiere was like, how were the LWKs, what
Speaker 1: was happening Kirby.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I love anything spooky anything Halloween.
Speaker 4: So I was thrilled Disney invited me to this premiere.
Speaker 6: And first of all, you don't have to be a
Speaker 6: Marvel fan to enjoy this show.
Speaker 4: In my humble opinion, if you like.
Speaker 6: Spooky stuff, if you're into witches, if you just love
Speaker 6: Catherine Hahn or Patti Lapone, then I think you're really
Speaker 6: gonna enjoy this series.
Speaker 4: But at the.
Speaker 6: Premiere, it was like it was really cool. There were
Speaker 6: all of these different photos setups. Catherine Hahn showed up
Speaker 6: in this gorgeous rare d'Arte gown that was like it
Speaker 6: kind of had like what I'm calling underbut it's kind
Speaker 6: of did you guys see.
Speaker 4: Her in her gown by chance?
Speaker 1: Because this is a term I haven't heard Kirby.
Speaker 4: This is a term that I think I just made up.
Speaker 6: But the way that it was created from the back,
Speaker 6: it goes asymmetrically over her behind and so you can
Speaker 6: see a little cheek action underneath it.
Speaker 4: It was very sexy.
Speaker 6: So she was wearing that, and then as I was
Speaker 6: scrolling through my footage on my phone, I noticed that
Speaker 6: one of her Lubton heels broke, so she was literally
Speaker 6: walking on her tippy toes to make it match all
Speaker 6: through the carpet. You couldn't have been able to tell
Speaker 6: unless you were actually looking at her feet.
Speaker 4: And then I saw photos of her feet.
Speaker 6: And like, nobody called out the fact that, like you
Speaker 6: couldn't even tell it just from the front, looked like
Speaker 6: she was killing it. So way to go, Catherine Han.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable when people have poised like that. Like, if
Speaker 1: something like that happened to me, I would have to
Speaker 1: just make it a big joke, talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that she just sashayed through unbelievable.
Speaker 6: I know I would have to call it out. I'm
Speaker 6: exactly like you, Danielle. I have to be like, let's
Speaker 6: address the elephant in the room. I do not look
Speaker 6: perfect at my premiere, but she did.
Speaker 4: She looked absolutely stunning.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Then there was a Parks and Rec reunion, so like
Speaker 6: Shashier was there. Obviously the cast was there, Patty Lapone,
Speaker 6: you know, Debra jau Rupp, who is like iconic from
Speaker 6: that seventies show and that ninety show.
Speaker 4: So all the casts was there.
Speaker 6: But then as I was standing to get some photos,
Speaker 6: I noticed this blonde woman coming up and I'm like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, it's the love of my life, Amy Poehler.
Speaker 6: And so she came to support Aubrey Plaza, who is
Speaker 6: a large character in the series, and Adam Scott also
Speaker 6: from Parks and Rec. And I don't know if everybody
Speaker 6: remembers this, but Catherine Haunt was like a featured character
Speaker 6: in Parks and Rec for you know, several seasons. Like
Speaker 6: she was kind of like a recurring random character that
Speaker 6: would come through. So it was a really cute Parks
Speaker 6: and Rec reunion. I'm a diehard Parks fan, so for
Speaker 6: me it was excellent.
Speaker 1: All I could hear was Aubrey Plaza because I feel
Speaker 1: like she is a gift to all of us. I
Speaker 1: just love her.
Speaker 4: She was born to be a witch. She is a witch.
Speaker 4: I don't think she would be offended by me saying.
Speaker 6: That she tore her acl. So she showed up with
Speaker 6: the cane that said Hag on it, because you know her,
Speaker 6: her handle is evil Hag.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 4: It's so good.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's this show is about a coven, so
Speaker 6: she was born to play a witch. I mean, she's
Speaker 6: so good in it. So highly recommend we got to
Speaker 6: see the first three episodes, so uh, you can watch
Speaker 6: the first two on Disney Plus right now, and then
Speaker 6: next week that'll I think they'll start going to like
Speaker 6: a weekly drop of these episodes. But there's for me,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of fun special effects makeup in the
Speaker 6: third episode, which I really enjoyed. And if you loved WandaVision,
Speaker 6: you'll love this. There's very there's a lot of similarities.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I just I loved WandaVision and I'm not
Speaker 6: a Marvel girly. I like Guardians of the Galaxy. But
Speaker 6: for me, Wanda Vision was like such an excellent show.
Speaker 6: It was funny, it was you know, nostalgic, and it
Speaker 6: covered grief in a really special way in my opinion,
Speaker 6: And I think this is going to be very very similar.
Speaker 1: Oh well, now I need to tune in.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all, let's get into the biggest stories of the week. First,
Speaker 2: we need to talk about and influence our controversy that
Speaker 2: has taken social media by storm. So influencer couple Matt
Speaker 2: and Abby Howard are facing criticism after Abby posted a
Speaker 2: story sharing that she and her husband left their two
Speaker 2: young kids, who are ages one and two, alone in
Speaker 2: a cruise ship cabin while they went out to eat dinner.
Speaker 3: So the story has now expired. It's no longer up there.
Speaker 2: But she wrote that it became a parent that their
Speaker 2: kids weren't enjoying the experience I guess of being on
Speaker 2: the cruise ship or being at dinner, and therefore neither
Speaker 2: were they. All the parents in the audience know what
Speaker 2: this is like, so they just decided to switch their
Speaker 2: dinner plans to after the kids' bedtime, and they say
Speaker 2: that they facetimed the baby.
Speaker 3: Monitors while they ate. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2: At first, I had a really strong reaction to this story,
Speaker 2: but I've kind of changed my mind.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious to hear what you guys think about it.
Speaker 2: Do we think that this is controversial or you know,
Speaker 2: unsafe to leave your kids inside of a locked room
Speaker 2: while you are watching them on a baby monitor.
Speaker 6: Had a very vista role. I mean, I was ready
Speaker 6: to go to the streets so were this because I'm like,
Speaker 6: are y'all dumb? Like are we just making content to
Speaker 6: make content? At this point? Like this is so stupid,
Speaker 6: You're endangering your children. And then I took a step
Speaker 6: back and was like I feel like this may be
Speaker 6: a knee jerk reaction. I want some more information. I
Speaker 6: want some more information. Well, Matt and Abbey have come
Speaker 6: out and said, we understand why people thought the children
Speaker 6: were alone. However, we had a caretaker with them the
Speaker 6: entire time we were facetiming, you know, the monitor, but
Speaker 6: there was somebody presently with them in the room to
Speaker 6: make sure that they were okay. They and to their credit,
Speaker 6: Abby looked really sad and defeated when she was relaying
Speaker 6: this message.
Speaker 4: And for me personally, I was like, you.
Speaker 6: Know what, this is why, this is why I don't
Speaker 6: have these knee jerk reactions. This is why I usually
Speaker 6: keep it really chill and try to get more information
Speaker 6: before I judge what's going on. But it's hard not
Speaker 6: to because these are content creators and they make money
Speaker 6: off of having likes, views, and engagement, and a lot
Speaker 6: of times a negative reaction is better than no reaction, right,
Speaker 6: so it's kind of hard to balance the two.
Speaker 2: We got rage baited. That's what happened to us, Kirby.
Speaker 2: We took the rage bait.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 4: We did take the rage bait.
Speaker 1: I know that they're content creators, but I see this
Speaker 1: in my own life with people, and I'm like, everybody
Speaker 1: gets to do what they feel is best for their family,
Speaker 1: for their children, but you don't need to post it online.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. I actually there's this is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a left turn, but it's a very sticky situation.
Speaker 1: I know somebody whose husband sadly passed away last year
Speaker 1: and passed away very young, and they had a one
Speaker 1: year old son, and very quickly after the passing, she
Speaker 1: started dating somebody new, and all family and friends had
Speaker 1: very strong reactions to her having a new boyfriend. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, to myself, it is nobody's business but
Speaker 1: her own how she wants to grieve who she wants
Speaker 1: to be with. But do you need to post like
Speaker 1: a big love post on social media? Like sometimes just
Speaker 1: just do it for yourself, you know, just do it
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 4: It's like writing the email.
Speaker 6: It's like, write that really scathing email that you want
Speaker 6: to send on a notes app and then leave it
Speaker 6: in the notes app.
Speaker 2: Don't send it, yes, yeah, just write it, keep it
Speaker 2: in the drafts, don't send it totally.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think we're I think everyone is blowing this one
Speaker 2: out of proportion. I think it's fine. She I didn't
Speaker 2: see the original story, but it sounds like she just
Speaker 2: made a joke, like, oh, the kids, you know, hated dinner,
Speaker 2: so we decided to like ship them off to bed,
Speaker 2: and now we're out enjoying ourselves. I've definitely left my
Speaker 2: kids in a hotel room by themselves before. No no nanny,
Speaker 2: no caretaker. We used to do this whenever they were
Speaker 2: like one and they could. I think for me, the
Speaker 2: biggest thing is can they fit inside of a crib
Speaker 2: and not get out of that crib? And then can
Speaker 2: you turn on the baby monitor and then walk out
Speaker 2: the room and monitor them?
Speaker 3: I think, I think it's fine.
Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't go far, but totally I think we're
Speaker 2: blown it out of proportion.
Speaker 1: Right, you're the only one with children. I feel like
Speaker 1: we have to You know, your word is a better one.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking if it were my kid, I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure I would do it without the caretaker.
Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of parenting. You get to decide.
Speaker 2: You get to decide what your rules are.
Speaker 1: And I'll circle back when I have kids if I
Speaker 1: change my mind.
Speaker 2: Okay, circle back to me. On number two, not the
Speaker 2: first one, but circle back to me on number two.
Speaker 3: I want to see how the rules change.
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, we have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 1: we'll be right back to pop it off with Kirby Johnson.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, and we're back with Kirby Johnson. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: while we're on the topic of influencers, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about wedding content creators. So we've seen this over
Speaker 1: the past year and a half, two years, I would
Speaker 1: say people are hiring wedding content creators to capture these small,
Speaker 1: quote unquote candid moments esthetically and quickly. So like everybody
Speaker 1: knows that the wedding photographer, the videographer, they take time
Speaker 1: to get the photos and the videos back to you.
Speaker 1: These content creators can get stuff up in hours, and
Speaker 1: they're charging anywhere from a thousand to four one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars give or take to create this content. We saw
Speaker 1: it with Nick Vial and his now wife Natalie, and
Speaker 1: we see it with people who are like even less famous,
Speaker 1: like just regular weddings. People are hiring content creators. Is
Speaker 1: this something that you would do?
Speaker 2: I wish this was an option. Whenever I got married,
Speaker 2: I didn't really get my wedding on video. I got
Speaker 2: married in twenty eleven, so this was kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: before this age where it's really.
Speaker 3: Common to get video done.
Speaker 2: But I think about it almost daily, the fact that
Speaker 2: I don't have video of my wedding, and I think
Speaker 2: this is a great option if you don't. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: wedding cinematographers they can cost like ten fifteen thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: So this seems like a great middle ground. And I
Speaker 2: also think this is so resourceful of these content creators
Speaker 2: to come up with this as a new job in
Speaker 2: the gig economy, Like this is so smart.
Speaker 6: Totally, I think especially you know, I work in beauty, right,
Speaker 6: and makeup artists make bank when they do weddings. Like
Speaker 6: I know a lot of editorial makeup artists and a
Speaker 6: lot of red carpet makeup artists that if it's not
Speaker 6: award season or you know, they're not booked for a shoot,
Speaker 6: that they're booking weddings on the weekends and it's really
Speaker 6: keeping them afloat. It's helping maintain a sense of balance
Speaker 6: in terms of their income. So I think this is
Speaker 6: really smart in terms of content creation. Although I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's for everyone.
Speaker 4: I do think it's simone.
Speaker 6: You actually kind of changed my perspective a little bit because, yeah,
Speaker 6: some of these photographers and videographers, like they're producing like
Speaker 6: these epic movies almost of.
Speaker 4: Your big day.
Speaker 6: But what if you can't afford that, and what if
Speaker 6: you just I mean, people are shooting commercials on iPhones,
Speaker 6: So like, maybe you get this really beautiful three minute
Speaker 6: compilation of like while you're getting ready and then your
Speaker 6: wedding and then your reception, and then you have that
Speaker 6: on your phone and it's you know, it's you're able
Speaker 6: to actually, you know, upload it where you want to
Speaker 6: and keep it on your phone so you can watch
Speaker 6: it and send it to whoever.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I think that you really helped me change my perspective
Speaker 6: on that. But I do like the other part of
Speaker 6: me is I'm not married, I haven't had a wedding yet.
Speaker 6: And I see people when they post about their wedding,
Speaker 6: and I know it's such a special day for them,
Speaker 6: But after three posts about your wedding, I'm out, like
Speaker 6: I'm I'm muting. I'm like, babes, if I've already seen
Speaker 6: your dress and I've already seen, like.
Speaker 1: What other outfit I'm max out at five?
Speaker 3: You guys are so mean.
Speaker 6: I mean, unless I know you personally and I like
Speaker 6: wasn't able to be at the wedding. Of course I
Speaker 6: want to see that stuff, but like some of these people.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it is.
Speaker 6: Like their big day, so they are treating it like
Speaker 6: it's like a red carpet or whatever.
Speaker 2: Herby's trying to find it in her heart to accept
Speaker 2: the wedding content.
Speaker 6: I really am trying to find like, like I get it,
Speaker 6: but for me after I mean, the ten or twenty
Speaker 6: pieces of content that I'm personally seeing from people promote
Speaker 6: about their wedding, I just don't care anymore.
Speaker 4: I get it, like I've seen it.
Speaker 6: You looked amazing, You're married, now post that on your
Speaker 6: personal Facebook, But like, I don't want to see that.
Speaker 6: If I'm following you as somebody who likes your like
Speaker 6: your own content, maybe I'm not there because I like
Speaker 6: know and like you as a person. It's because I
Speaker 6: like what you're delivering to me. And I know that
Speaker 6: sounds super transactional, but I just I love to know
Speaker 6: if people fall off, like if people lose followers from
Speaker 6: posting too much wedding content. And y'all understand, this is
Speaker 6: a very different situation than, like, you know, a content
Speaker 6: creator who's getting married, Like there's a big fashion content
Speaker 6: creator on TikTok who it was like, you would be
Speaker 6: dumb not to have a content creator hired to make
Speaker 6: content around your wedding, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually kind of like this because I think
Speaker 1: that sometimes the iPhone is less obtrusive, so people who
Speaker 1: are not used to cameras in their face, like, are
Speaker 1: more chill around it. And I think that these creators
Speaker 1: can capture some of the more demure moments, the more
Speaker 1: like subtle moments here. That's a great point what I think.
Speaker 1: First of all, Kirby, I'm so with you. Imax out
Speaker 1: at five posts about your wedding. Three five is being generous.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on three five. I get it, it's
Speaker 1: your big day. But and like you know, we love love.
Speaker 1: But I do think that wedding etiquette with content has
Speaker 1: become interesting. I've been to a few weddings that are
Speaker 1: no phone weddings, yeah, and part of it is that
Speaker 1: the bride and groom don't want anybody to post before
Speaker 1: they do, and there's kind of like a rule about that.
Speaker 1: And so I actually went to a wedding where the bride.
Speaker 1: We were walking out and the bride looked at us
Speaker 1: and was like, okay, y'all, like you can post now,
Speaker 1: I just press post.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: So it was like ceremonial. I was like, okay, everyone
Speaker 6: else get out there. You know what's so funny is
Speaker 6: the no phones are no tech what what's the term?
Speaker 6: You'll know, they have like a specific term for it now.
Speaker 6: They say unplugged, unplugged.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's like landismoresett unpluged. Okay.
Speaker 6: So they have like a little sign set up that says,
Speaker 6: this is an unplugged ceremony. Please turn off your phones
Speaker 6: or they'll take them. Typically, when that was a thing,
Speaker 6: it was because they wanted people to be present, not
Speaker 6: because they wanted people to wait for them to post first, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 4: It was like, let's be present in the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like yeah, Kayleie, you're going to look back ten
Speaker 2: years from now and be so mad that somebody posted
Speaker 2: your wedding photos before you did, right.
Speaker 6: Right, right right, It's like but that's why initially it
Speaker 6: was an unplugged wedding. So it was like, hey, we
Speaker 6: get it social media as a thing, but like, let's
Speaker 6: just like be present in the moment and not be
Speaker 6: looking down at our phones like trying to get the
Speaker 6: best video image whatever.
Speaker 4: I'm all about that.
Speaker 6: But you know, at the same time, just kind of
Speaker 6: like whatever. It also just kind of kind of makes
Speaker 6: me laugh because usually if someone is being told not
Speaker 6: to post something, it's because the bride and groom are
Speaker 6: likely getting paid for like.
Speaker 4: A People magazine, ex Rice or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was not that like that that so my
Speaker 2: question is why stop here? Like, if we can hire
Speaker 2: content creators to document our weddings, can't we hire content
Speaker 2: creators to document other things like divorces?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I would love that. I want the real,
Speaker 1: Like I want to see the inside scoop of your
Speaker 1: day to day. I don't want to see the glossy stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to know like when you're on the floor crying,
Speaker 1: when the things went wrong, all the full I want to.
Speaker 2: Be able to hire a freelancer to come in and
Speaker 2: document let's say, like a birthday party. Wouldn't that be
Speaker 2: nice to where you could be hands free, you could
Speaker 2: still get content and photos and videos with your friends.
Speaker 2: But it's not on your it's not part of your
Speaker 2: mental load. You could just get to outsource it for
Speaker 2: the evening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you bring up an interesting point.
Speaker 1: Danielle bay Or Jackson, who's a friendship expert who's been
Speaker 1: on our show, just posted something on Instagram that kind
Speaker 1: of made my eyes widen. She planned a birthday party
Speaker 1: for one of her kids. And she said she planned
Speaker 1: it in like a day. She did it really quickly.
Speaker 1: She did it on a small budget, and her six
Speaker 1: year old said this was the best birthday ever. And
Speaker 1: so she said, instead of stressing out about planning your kids' birthdays,
Speaker 1: ask yourself this question, would you plan this party if
Speaker 1: Instagram didn't exist? And if the answer is yes, go
Speaker 1: for it. That's what's in your heart. But I do
Speaker 1: see a lot of parents nowadays planning things with Instagram
Speaker 1: and social media in mind, and I think it's making
Speaker 1: people crazy, and particularly women because usually that task falls
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 2: And I think the other question is what would you
Speaker 2: do differently if this weren't going to be on Instagram?
Speaker 2: You know, like, would you be going out of your
Speaker 2: way to buy color coded balloon? Arches, you know, if
Speaker 2: Instagram wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really interesting prompt.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say.
Speaker 6: This actually reminds me of a video I saw on
Speaker 6: TikTok of a woman who said that she I guess
Speaker 6: her child was four or five, and she invited sixteen kids,
Speaker 6: and she said, I had to cancel my child's birthday
Speaker 6: party because nobody was going to show up. And then
Speaker 6: she gets into the story and basically, I think six
Speaker 6: or seven kids were going to show up, but the
Speaker 6: I guess the rest of the sixteen weren't, and she
Speaker 6: decided to not have the party because only six or
Speaker 6: seven kids were going to come, And all the comments
Speaker 6: were basically like, I think you thought this was going
Speaker 6: to go a different direction, but six or seven kids
Speaker 6: is way more than enough for your child to have
Speaker 6: fun at their birthday party.
Speaker 4: She would not have known the difference.
Speaker 6: And now you're just not going to have the party
Speaker 6: for her because what And I guess the woman kept saying, yeah,
Speaker 6: it was like our neighbors and then some friends from school,
Speaker 6: and I just figured I would just like, you know,
Speaker 6: throw in the towel if it wasn't going to be
Speaker 6: like a big blowout party, and it made me really
Speaker 6: sad because that kid probably would have had the best
Speaker 6: time and wouldn't have known that she didn't have sixteen
Speaker 6: people there. You know, like I feel like seven or
Speaker 6: six kids.
Speaker 4: That's a lot of kids.
Speaker 1: Okay, Kirby, I would be remiss to not talk about
Speaker 1: Halloween with you because you are the queen of spooky season.
Speaker 1: You have the most epic Halloween costumes. Every single time
Speaker 1: wigs makeup, professional help comes in. How long do you
Speaker 1: plan for this moment? On October thirty?
Speaker 4: First months months?
Speaker 6: So when I worked at Pop Sugar, we always said
Speaker 6: Halloween started July first, because that is when people start
Speaker 6: searching for Halloween costumes on Pinterest. You'll start seeing a
Speaker 6: spike in Halloween searches on Pinterest around July first, So
Speaker 6: that's when we knew, okay, we need to start coming
Speaker 6: up reposting Halloween content in July. Which Christmas in July,
Speaker 6: Halloween in July.
Speaker 4: Here we are so.
Speaker 6: But I have to say, I appreciate the title, but
Speaker 6: Heidi Clume is the Halloween.
Speaker 4: She was a giant worm. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: how you beat being.
Speaker 6: A giant wormorm it was a the worandom simon. It
Speaker 6: literally it's I have had a dream about the Worm,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, what are we doing here? She's such
Speaker 6: a she's like a genius, a little Halloween genius.
Speaker 4: And how she figures out these costumes. I love Heidi
Speaker 4: Klume for.
Speaker 3: Anyone listening who isn't aware of what the worm is.
Speaker 3: We're referring to.
Speaker 2: Heidi Clume's worm costume from her twenty twenty two Halloween party.
Speaker 2: Her Halloween party is legendary at this point, and if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, there's no better time like the present,
Speaker 2: because this costume is something you have to see to believe, y'all.
Speaker 6: She has no arms, she has no arms, like she
Speaker 6: she's a worm. She had to walk around with her
Speaker 6: head through a hole as a giant, and she could
Speaker 6: not like go to the bathroom.
Speaker 4: She couldn't eat, couldn't drink, she.
Speaker 6: Couldn't shake people's hands at her Halloween pot It's like.
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian at the met Gala. It's so there's so
Speaker 1: much commitment, right, it's really special. I remember her being
Speaker 1: Jessica Rabbit. I remember Heidi Klum being Princess Fiona. I
Speaker 1: think she was a zombie mom one year. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that one?
Speaker 6: Yes, she was also Michael Jackson thriller one year. She
Speaker 6: also I think she went at her as herself, but
Speaker 6: then she had like ten other heidis that were in
Speaker 6: full prosthetics to look just like her. When she does
Speaker 6: her costumes, it's not based on a theme, like it's
Speaker 6: not like, oh, this happened this year culturally, this is
Speaker 6: what I'm going to do. It's always just completely out
Speaker 6: of left field. So it's really you really can't guess
Speaker 6: what she's going to be.
Speaker 2: I kind of love the chaotic energy of that because
Speaker 2: everything else in pop culture revolves around a theme, and
Speaker 2: I love that she just is randomly picking the most
Speaker 2: eccentric costume she can think of.
Speaker 4: Same.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I need to understand. Maybe I'm going to
Speaker 1: back up. Okay, As a kid, I loved Halloween. As
Speaker 1: I've gotten older, Halloween stresses me out because in college
Speaker 1: I felt like I was expected to take a regular
Speaker 1: like someone's regular profession, and make it sexy, which made
Speaker 1: me feel so awkward, like I do not want to
Speaker 1: be in a nurse's costume and then knee high boots.
Speaker 1: It's just so not my energy. And then when I
Speaker 1: moved to La there are real Halloween parties and I
Speaker 1: felt like I just don't have time to make this happen.
Speaker 1: So one, how do you find the inspiration for your costumes?
Speaker 1: And two where did your love of Halloween really stem from?
Speaker 6: Okay, my inspiration usually comes from pop culture because I
Speaker 6: find listen. I don't have like massive budgets like Heidi Klume,
Speaker 6: so I think she can go left field with it
Speaker 6: and it be really exciting because she can do it
Speaker 6: so big and so crazy.
Speaker 4: For me, I want.
Speaker 6: To do big and crazy, but I need it to
Speaker 6: be also something. If I walk into a Halloween party,
Speaker 6: people aren't like, who are you?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 6: Why are you doing this? So I always tried to
Speaker 6: do pop culture themed. Last year I was Ken and
Speaker 6: I was Dojah Cat, and I felt like and Doja
Speaker 6: Cat specifically from the Scaparelli Show where she painted herself
Speaker 6: read Pemigrath, painted her red and then put like thirty
Speaker 6: thousand rhinestones all over her body.
Speaker 1: Tell me how many views you got because it was
Speaker 1: so epic?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: I mean that one was crazy, like I had millions
Speaker 6: of views on that. But then Vogue also covered it,
Speaker 6: so that was a whole thing. I didn't use thirty
Speaker 6: thousand rhinestones. I used fifteen thousand, but I had like
Speaker 6: five people doing it with me, same as Doja. Her
Speaker 6: team reached out and said it was awesome. So it
Speaker 6: was like a very gratifying moment for me because.
Speaker 4: Like, fifteen thousand, Yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Was crazy, and then we even ran out we didn't
Speaker 6: have enough, so it was to say it was awesome.
Speaker 6: Then when you ask my inspiration, my mom threw me
Speaker 6: a Halloween party every year from kindergarten to senior year.
Speaker 6: Kindergarten it was come over Bob for Apple's tell ghost stories,
Speaker 6: watch a scary movie, and then as I got older,
Speaker 6: it was a little bit more chill. Sometimes we'd all
Speaker 6: just get together and go to a haunted house. So
Speaker 6: Halloween has always been in my blood. I love decorating
Speaker 6: for Halloween. I'm going to decorate this weekend since I'm traveling,
Speaker 6: and I just like the spookiness of it all.
Speaker 4: It reminds me.
Speaker 6: It's like almost comforting because I grew up with it
Speaker 6: and my mom made it such a special holiday.
Speaker 4: So thank you Janet for that. And yeah, I just.
Speaker 1: Love sharing the Halloween spirit are you. Can you give
Speaker 1: us clues about this year's costume?
Speaker 6: Yes, this year's costume, so I'm going to have a few,
Speaker 6: But I think the big one that I'm going to
Speaker 6: do is it's inspired by a trend on TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's very vague y and also piques my interest at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 4: That was the goal.
Speaker 1: So mon, do you have a costume yet for this year?
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: I love to talk about big plans for Halloween costumes
Speaker 2: starting around July and then never do them because I
Speaker 2: run out of steam and energy. So I'll probably be
Speaker 2: you know, I'll probably Mammy will probably have her special thermos.
Speaker 2: She'll be walking around the neighborhood with some Mommy juice
Speaker 2: in it. And it's all about the kiddos, you know.
Speaker 2: But I did notice over the past few years. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have seen this too, it
Speaker 2: feels like celebrities are almost making Halloween into its own
Speaker 2: met gala. Like people will book out entire photo shoots
Speaker 2: just to shoot their Halloween look, or even like they'll
Speaker 2: shoot they'll make little short films about it. I'm just like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: this is a lot. The Internet is a lot sometimes.
Speaker 6: You know, it actually takes the fun out of it.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, I see these celebrities doing like full
Speaker 6: page spreads of their look because a lot of times
Speaker 6: they're so edited that I'm like, you don't I want
Speaker 6: to just see you walking around on the street with
Speaker 6: the paparazzi pap and you like the one year Lizo
Speaker 6: was Baby Yoda, she like did not do a formal
Speaker 6: photo shoot, literally like she got papped and then it
Speaker 6: went viral. I actually saw her that night because she
Speaker 6: crashed the Spotify Halloween party and we're like, who is
Speaker 6: this woman? And then she started singing and we're like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, it's Lizo and I like elements, I.
Speaker 4: Like Halloween like that.
Speaker 6: Haley Bieber is the only person, in my opinion that
Speaker 6: I thought did it really well. She recreated Britney Spears's
Speaker 6: editorial spreads when she dressed up as Brittany, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: that flies for me. But like you doing this whole
Speaker 6: like fake background of like you being in some like
Speaker 6: alien planet when you're an alien, I'm like, no, I
Speaker 6: just want to see you, like trapesing around Brentwood wearing
Speaker 6: your coss tome that's what I want personally, Simon, I
Speaker 6: was going to ask you, are your kids how many
Speaker 6: kids do you have?
Speaker 3: I have two?
Speaker 6: Okay, are they asking you like, are they excited for Halloween?
Speaker 6: Are they like already like, mom, I want to be
Speaker 6: this for Halloween? Are they even talking about that yet.
Speaker 3: A little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They The thing is their costume desires or wishless changes
Speaker 2: all the time, Like Okay, one day they'll want to
Speaker 2: be Superman.
Speaker 3: One day they'll want to be a firefighter. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Kids have this really wonderful way of normalizing and celebrating
Speaker 2: the jobs during Halloween that we tend to disparage throughout
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. So you know, whether it's
Speaker 2: like construction workers or they just like the the they
Speaker 2: romanticize these vocations, and I think it's I think it's
Speaker 2: really cute.
Speaker 3: We have to figure out what they're gonna wear.
Speaker 2: I mean, my dream maybe one day we'll get to
Speaker 2: a point where we can do a family costume. That
Speaker 2: would be really fun. But for right now, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of just like, let them do their thing. Thank you
Speaker 2: Chill in the background here for support. Love Kirby, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for popping off with us today.
Speaker 4: Thank you both. I adore you both.
Speaker 6: It's been a pleasure being back and I hope to
Speaker 6: see you guys again soon.
Speaker 1: The Queen of Halloween, Kirby Johnson is a producer, writer,
Speaker 1: and co host of the beauty podcast Glas Angels. Follow
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