1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Let's just do Luke's Diner with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all and podcast one 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: of them productions iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast another segment of 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Luke's Diner. Joining us today is the one and only 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Carla Hall. Let me tell you a little bit about 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: Carla here, a big celebrity chef. You know we're from 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Top Chef the Chew Countless Food Adventures, where she brings 9 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: her signature energy and love of comfort food with a twist. 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: She's classically trained as a chef, champion of soulful cooking, 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: and an advocate for bringing people together through food. She 12 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: has just launched her very own virtual magazine, Sweet Heritage, 13 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: which you can find on her website at Carlahall dot com. 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Without further ado, please welcome the one and only Carla Hall. 15 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Carla Welcome, Thank you, Scott Gordon Tatterson. 16 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: That is me, that is me. It's good to see you. 17 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: It's good to see you too. First of all, are 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: you familiar with Gilmore Girls? 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: I am familiar. I didn't watch. I've watched a couple 20 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: of episodes. Everyone, I've spoken to from my niece who 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: is thirty seven to my assistant's daughter who is twenty something. 22 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Watched an avid Watchers like the entire series, like multiple times. 23 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Yes that's yes, that's how they consume it. Yes, it's incredible. 24 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: So in season one, episode sixteen, Starcross Lovers and Other Strangers, 25 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Laura I lead character is all about quick and easy 26 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: comfort foods. You know, she's not much of a cook, 27 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: but she does like to throw together some fun meals. 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: In this episode, she turns to yes, Hamburger helper. Have 29 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: you ever used it yourself? 30 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I use it. I grew I am sixty years old. 31 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: I grew up like I was there when it was 32 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: made and put on the shelves in the grocery store. 33 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: I feel like my mother's like, oh, RERAI jesus, here's 34 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: the hamberg that help me? So, yes, I've have eaten it. 35 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: I've put a version in my cookbooks. Yes, I'm very familiar. 36 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: And so how would you put a Carla Hall twist 37 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: on it to take it to the next level? What 38 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: would you do with it? 39 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: So I think, first of all, you're not going to 40 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: use the box is like the difference between box macaroni 41 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: and cheese and homemade macaroni and cheese. So you start 42 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: with your ground beef, but it could be ground chick 43 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: these days, it could be a ground meat substitute. And 44 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: then you add your seasons. You have onions, you have garlic. 45 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: If you like it's spicy, you can add a little 46 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: bit of chili flakes. Then you're gonna add some tomatoes. 47 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: It could be tomatoes sauce, or it can be dice tomatoes, 48 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: and you cook all of that up. Then you add 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: some liquid. It can be water, it can be stock. 50 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: And then you're gonna add in your noodle. So your noodles, 51 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: your little elbow macaroni actually cooks in the liquid with 52 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: the meat, so everything is saucy and delicious, and so 53 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: you don't have this bland pasta floating in delicious meat. 54 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Once that's all done and the elbows soak up that liquid, 55 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: they're nice and al dente ish. Then you stir in 56 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: your cheese. That's the like a sharp cheddar I would love, 57 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: and then you dish it up and then you can 58 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: put partially on top. You can put more cheese on top, 59 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: and that's it. 60 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: What's your uncle, Well, you certainly answer that question. I 61 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: just had breakfast, but I think I want to go 62 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: eat some more. So also in the show, if you're 63 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: not familiar, we know about Rory and a lauralized obsession 64 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: with pop tarts. Oh my god, me too. Oh I 65 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: have to ask you about your butter tarts, which look amazing, 66 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I have to get my hands on those. 67 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: Walk us through this recipe and what inspired this unique 68 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: creation for it's a snack, right. 69 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So my butter tarts are at a fresh fresh market, 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: the fresh market, and I love I love pop tarts, 71 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: I love pie. So this is a rustic tart. So 72 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: you just take a flat piece of dough. I love 73 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: cooked fruit. There are apples, there's cherry, and then there's 74 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: orchard fruit, which is a mix of apples and berries. 75 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: And the because my grandmother loves almonds, she put and 76 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: extract and everything. These tarts have a layer of marzipan 77 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: or an almond paste, which makes it so succulent and delicious. 78 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: And then there's real butter in the crust itself and 79 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: you just fold it there, fold it over. So it's 80 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: a snack. It can be a dessert, it can be breakfast. 81 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: If that's how you roll and they're so good, they're 82 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: not too sweet. I think there's something for everybody. Some 83 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: days I like the tarts. I like tart cherries, you know, 84 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: and some days I like the apple. This is very traditional. 85 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Okay, you're Southern girl. Where are you from Nashville? Nashville? 86 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were in Tennessee. You were in 87 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Tennessee at some point, I think last year. Yeah, I'm 88 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: from Nashville though. 89 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went down Yeah, I was down there. I 90 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: was down there for a couple of days. 91 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 92 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: So your Southern roots play a huge role in you're 93 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: cooking gobbage. Let's talk about some of your most famous recipes. 94 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Feel free to add what you think is your most 95 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: famous recipe, but your your perfect buttermilk biscuits, four cheese, 96 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. Yeah, chicken pot pie, Oh my. 97 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Gosh, yes, chicken pot pie. 98 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Sweet potato. It's our tean. Can you walk us through 99 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: your secrets to making these dishes so good? 100 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: I think, you know, a lot of people think about 101 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: Southern food just being overly sweet. Maybe it's overly fatty, 102 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: overly salted. I think there's a difference between celebration dishes 103 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: and every day dishes. You you happen to name a 104 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: lot of everyday dishes, and I think there's technique in 105 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: making them, like my biscuits. I used to make biscuits 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: with strangers in New York. I would walk up to 107 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: people and I would say, do you know how to 108 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: make a biscuit? And if they said now, I'm like, 109 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: can I come near your house and make biscuits with you? 110 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Because that's the equivalent of being a. 111 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Buster right right exactly the street. I love that, And 112 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: mainly it was because people would send me to place 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: because they knew when I was from the South, and 114 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: they send me to places that they said they have 115 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: great biscuits and they were terrible. And I'm like, you know, 116 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: either you need to know how to make a great 117 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: biscuit or you need to know how to recognize one 118 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: at a restaurant. And for me, a great biscuit is 119 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: sort of crunchy on the outside and really light and 120 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: fluffy on the inside, and when it cools down it 121 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: is not hard as a stone. And so there's their 122 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: techniques involved. And so I think a biscuit is a 123 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: blend between shortening, which keeps it soft after it cools down, 124 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: and butter and you grate the butter to make it flaky, 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: and then you don't use bleached flour. All the people 126 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: out there who love white lily, I love you for 127 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: loving white lily. I'm from the South. That's why they 128 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: do white lily. But I like a hard winter wheat 129 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: like King Garthur because it browns nicer and you get 130 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: that crunchy golden top and fluffy in the center. 131 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: M in your opinion, do you have any recipes or 132 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: dishes that are perfect? 133 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I think so I would be. I mean, this 134 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: is not a humble brag, but if I don't think 135 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: my food is good, then I shouldn't be cooking them, right. 136 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: I had. I had a fried chicken restaurant, Pearl Hul 137 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: Soul Cookion for for a very short time, Curlhule Soul Food, 138 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: and it was a love letter to Nashville. And so 139 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: I did hot chicken and I didn't make fried chicken 140 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: for the longest time. And once I started to perfect 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: my fried chicken, it really was one of the best. 142 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 2: It was succulent, it was juicy, it was tangy. And 143 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: the secret I'm going to share this. The secret is 144 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: not the buttermilk where you add some liquid in and 145 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: then it gets the skin gets all flabby, and it 146 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: creates this pocket of air and moisture. But to use 147 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: all dry spices, so dried vinegar powders. If you want 148 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: to do buttermilk, do a buttermilk powder, and you put 149 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: that everything into the flour and you press it in 150 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: there and then let it sit for only a few minutes. 151 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: But vinegar powder creates this tagginess into the flower. It 152 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: goes and then into the fryer. So the skin stays 153 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: on the chicken and it and it is really hunchy 154 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: and delicious and a little bit tangy. Right right, I 155 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: just want you to about It was my job to 156 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: make you hungry. That's what I do. 157 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Kill You're killing me right now. Man. I've already gained 158 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: ten pounds and I'm still on the couch because I cook. 159 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna I'll listen back to all this stuff 160 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: and I'll use some of these techniques. 161 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: I love. 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: I love all those. I'm gonna try that dry vinegar 163 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: powder because I cannot, for the life of me, you know, 164 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: get that that that sort of u chicken skin to 165 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: do what I want it to do. 166 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: It's because you see these recipes and it's like, go 167 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: into the buttermilk season it, put flour on it, go 168 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: back in the refrigerator, let it get cold, come back out, 169 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: put more uh flower on it, and then you're just 170 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: creating I mean, it's going to be crispy, and it's 171 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: just creating this sort of wet pocket. But also that 172 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: you can also add corn starch to your flour mixture. 173 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: That gets it christy, Okay, any techniques that still challenge 174 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: you in the kitchen. 175 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the other day, what was I'm making and I 176 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: get obsessed over something. I'm working on a baking book 177 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: that comes out next year, and I did not get 178 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 2: on the craze of making sour dough with everybody else 179 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: during the pandemic, and so making bread for me was 180 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I've made rolls. I make a lot of rolls, 181 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: but making bread and like bulls of bread is still 182 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: a challenge. And I'm afraid of yeast. I don't trust 183 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: when they say throw everything in the flour with the yeast, 184 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: the salt, the sugar and it's going to come out, 185 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: because I'm afraid that my bread isn't going to rise. 186 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: So that is still a challenge for me in doing 187 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: this book. I feel like I might look y'all, I'm 188 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: the chef doing bread and the home cook. So come 189 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: on this journey with me. I don't know everything, but 190 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm willing to figure it out and we can figure 191 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: it out together. 192 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, let me ask you this. You're a 193 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: big deal celebrity chef. Okay, TV chef. What's the thing 194 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: that you never expected? 195 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: Let me count the bays. I did Top Chef. A 196 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know. I love when people come 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: to me, Oh, I saw you from the beginning, and 198 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, well was the beginning when I did Top 199 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Chef because I was forty four years old. Nobody pops 200 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: out of the womb at forty four years old, so 201 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: I was older, you know when I did Top Chef, 202 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: and I mean I was physically fit, so I think 203 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: people thought I was younger running around with those young people. 204 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: So when I did it as a personal challenge, when 205 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: I left, and I think being older, I was okay 206 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: with being myself, so I think people gravitated towards that 207 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: and the authenticity. So the first time that I was 208 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: recognized and I had on a hang up, I had 209 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: on a staff around my face and just my glass 210 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: is poking out and somebody says Carla, and I'm like 211 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: wait what, Like I'm not even trying to hide, but 212 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: it was just a cold day. And I think the 213 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: the being recognized and having people come up to me 214 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: is a really big surprise because I'm just like normal, 215 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: you know, just a person. And when I'm on the subway, 216 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: they're like you take the subway in New York. I'm like, yep, 217 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: It's the most efficient way of travel. So everything that 218 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: has come out of that franchise of Top Chef and 219 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: doing the show twice has really been a surprise. And 220 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: then I've just turned it into a business, Like what 221 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: am I going to do with this platform? What do 222 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: I do with it? How can I make people's lives better? 223 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: You know? So it's it's all been a surprise. 224 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: You have a favorite person that you cook with, whether 225 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: it's in your kitchen on TV. 226 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: You know who I love cooking with and I love 227 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: his food. Michael Simon And I was with him on 228 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: the two and he's from Cleveland, and you eat Michael's 229 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: food and you're like, this man loves his mama. I 230 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: mean it is like this food that is so delicious, 231 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: and so it's just not precious. And he's such a 232 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: technically gifted chef that I love cooking with him, and 233 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm always learning something. 234 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: You've had. What I'm seeing here a very fascinating career path, 235 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: haven't you? Accounting, modeling, now a world renowned chef. Did 236 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: you ever imagine that you'd be where you are today? 237 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: And let me tell you. My first love was theater. 238 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to be Carol Burnette. I wanted to be 239 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: the black Carol Burnette at twelve, that right, yes. And 240 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to go to Boston University. I didn't they 241 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: were going to defer my admission. So I was like, Okay, 242 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: forget this. I'm just going to go to Howard University. Okay, 243 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: I like my accounting teacher. I'll major in accounting. Okay, 244 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing this. Okay, I'll work at a like a 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: Big eight accounting firm. Okay, I'm doing that. Okay, I'll 246 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: take the CPA exam. Okay I passed that. Okay, I 247 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: hate it. Okay, let me go to Motherling and then 248 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm over there modeling in Paris. I'm like, okay, 249 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: all the girls are getting together. And clicking in somebody's house. 250 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that. I hate not knowing. Okay, 251 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: let me go to the bookstore and let me learn 252 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: how to cook. And then I started a lunch delivery service, 253 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: and then I went to culinary school at thirty and 254 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: then things just kept rolling right. And then I know 255 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: that was a very quick answer to you. 256 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. 257 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: And then when I turned fifty seven, I said, what 258 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: about the theater? I mean, really, everything that I've done 259 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: is performing. And so I decided upon my sixtieth birthday, 260 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: which was last year, that I wanted to do a 261 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: one woman show. And so, because that's the only thing 262 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: that I haven't picked up, like as it begins, it's 263 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: how it ends. I'm like, that's how I want my 264 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: life to end. And I and I and so I'm 265 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: working on a one woman show. 266 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: It's really tell us about. 267 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: It is about my life. The framework is me at 268 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: a clicking show. I don't say the shoe, but it's 269 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: at the chew and all the challenges that I had. 270 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: And then there are a lot of flashbacks going back 271 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: to when I was in theater camp and wanting to 272 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: be the black Carol Burnett and then like this back 273 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: and forth, like not wanting to accept food in my life, 274 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, going Gray on national television at fifty and 275 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: so all of these different things. It's it has a 276 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: lot of audience participation there, like mixed media. There are 277 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: videos there. I bring people up to sort of be 278 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: on stage with me, and it's about nine minutes of 279 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: just me interacting with the audience and telling my story. 280 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: And how far along are you in this process? Is 281 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: it is? 282 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: It? 283 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: Is it written? 284 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: It's written? It's written, I mean, so there are still 285 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: things to sort of tweak it. I did a workshop 286 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: at Olney Theater in September and we're looking at directors. 287 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: It is going to be at the Only Theater, which 288 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: is a premiere regional theater in Maryland, in May of 289 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. 290 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh boys, and I'm going to do it. 291 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's at a small like black box theater 292 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: for four to five weeks for about two hundred. The 293 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: audience is about two hundred seats. And yeah, I'm excited. 294 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pure, pure, It's so putting myself out 295 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: there being very vulnerable, but you know, in my life, 296 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm like, hey, why not. You know, I'm comfortable 297 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: with the uncomfortable, which is what I think Top Chef 298 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: gave me. Just putting myself out there and I can 299 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: fall flat on my face and okay, I would have 300 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: done it. 301 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah right. I mean, you can't grow unless you're a 302 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: little bit out of your comfort zone. Right, the water's 303 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: a little too deep, and you know that's how you grow. Man, 304 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: good for you. I wish you a ton of luck 305 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: with that. 306 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. 307 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I'll look out for that. That sounds very exciting. All right. 308 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about comfort food. Yeah, 309 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: because it plays such a big role in this episode. 310 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: What is your ultimate comfort meal just when you need 311 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to feel good? You know? 312 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was in New York. This is an easy, 313 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: easy answer. I like a big pot of beans, like mixedveins. 314 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what it could be, white beans, mixed 315 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: beans like a soup, greens like collar greens, kale, and 316 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: corn bread. That is my fisepta. That is the be 317 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: all and end all. I mean I could taste it 318 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: right now. I mean, and to have that like everything 319 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: is cluked and then you make the corn bread. It's 320 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: in a cast stern skillet. You cut that wedge out, 321 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: it's a crispy edges, and then you take salted butter, 322 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: not unsalted, and then you turn the cornbread on its 323 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: side so the wedge is exposed, and you put that 324 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: butter on it and it melts, and then you have 325 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: all these other like your beans, and maybe some chowchow 326 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 2: pickle or raw onions and the greens. And I am 327 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: in hog heaven, So. 328 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, what's the one dish that 329 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: takes you back to your childhood? 330 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: That corn bread? Literally the corn bread. My grandmother wouldn't 331 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: make it until we were on the inside of the door. 332 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: She knew we were coming at the church. She knew 333 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: it was thirty minutes, but she wouldn't The pan would 334 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: be the cast iron skillet would be in the oven, 335 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: but she wouldn't make it until we were there because 336 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: it would be coming out hot. And I knew once 337 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: she put that corn bread batter into that oil pan 338 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: and it starts curling up on the size to get chrispy, 339 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: that we were going to be eating in twenty minutes. 340 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: No matter how hungry I was, it was going to 341 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 2: be twenty minutes. And it was like the first bite 342 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: before anything, and so I think that's why that's my 343 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: comfort meal. 344 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah, tell us a little bit about sweet Heritage. 345 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: It's a magazine dives into culinary traditions. Your first issue 346 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: includes recipes tailored for different personality types. What inspired you 347 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: to bring this approach to recipe creation? Can you share 348 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: an example of how specific personalities influenced dishes? 349 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: So we decided to do this magazine. So with me 350 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: and I have a very small core taine to four 351 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: of us, and I'm always asked my team, I don't 352 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: want us to rise up like me as a pyramid 353 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: with me on top. I want us all to rise 354 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: up like a box. And my assistant has always wanted 355 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: to do a magazine. I'm like, okay, let's do it. 356 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: And I said, let's do it around manifesting. And I 357 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: always want to do something that I feel people can 358 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: get something out of. And so it's like, well, finding manifesting, 359 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: finding your authentic self. And I'm really big into enneagrams. 360 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: Do you know aneagrams? Are you gonna take the test 361 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: after this, You're gonna listen back and take the test. 362 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out what you are. Well, I am 363 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: a seven, which is the adventurer wing a very direct 364 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: and so there they are nine different types. And so 365 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: we did all of these recipes based on the different types, 366 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: Like if you are an adventurer, what you might wait make? 367 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: I have to look it up because I can't remember 368 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: the different types. I'm gonna look up cold please. And 369 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: in doing so, I had my whole team. Do I 370 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: have my whole team to do the test because I 371 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: want to know how you thrive and and in having 372 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: the language to help understand who you are, then maybe 373 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: you can compliment what my gifts are. So and that's 374 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: what this magazine is about. So right for instance, so 375 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: so the helper, which is type two, they're the help 376 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: or they're the giver. And so we did something very comforting, 377 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: which is the chicken pop pie, which feels like, you know, 378 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: it could have easily been chicken soup because if your 379 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: friends are sick, you're like, oh, let me make soup 380 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: for you. Let me just come and give you some comfort. 381 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: So the first issue is stout what can we expect 382 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: with the second issue of the magazine. 383 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: The second issue is going to be about an adventure. 384 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: It's going to be about doing something that you've never 385 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: done before, put yourself out there, but also realizing that 386 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: you can have an adventure in your own city by 387 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: going to different restaurants and different cultures. You can do 388 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: an adventure by doing something new that you want it 389 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: to do. You can have your just go on a tour. 390 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: One of the things that I'm doing with my team, 391 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: we are doing a road trip to Nashville, and we're 392 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: stopping in different cities, so we'll document this whole thing. 393 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: We're stopping in diffferent cities. We're going to Bristol, Virginia, 394 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: We're going to be in West Virginia, and we'll we're 395 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: going to go on one of those rides where you're 396 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: on the train tracks and it's like paddle boats, but 397 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: it's on a train and you're like paddling along. So 398 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: we're planning all of these different things and we will 399 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: share it with you on the magazine. My husband is 400 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: taking a train trip from Kalamazoo to Burbank, California, and 401 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: so he's going to do a piece. But it's really 402 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: about getting out of your comfort zone and finding joy 403 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: in adventure. 404 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: That's great, so great speaking of that, if you were 405 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: could share a meal with anyone from Gilmore Girls, who 406 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: would it be and what would you cook for them? 407 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we're talking about Lorelai. We're 408 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: talking about comfort food, and we're talking about something that 409 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: you want it to be easy, and it's something that 410 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: I think she would do. And it's always about surprising 411 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: somebody about something that they may want to cook and 412 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: surprising them that they could actually make it. So I 413 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: am going to say, and this is just coming to 414 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: me right now, I'm going to add some pimento cheese. 415 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to have her do a burger because that's 416 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: my last meal and I want to share that with her. 417 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: But we're going to do it as a chicken burger 418 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: because we're in the South, instead of fried chicken, and 419 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: then pimento cheese, some pickles on that, a toasted bun, 420 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna make some French fries and also 421 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: onion rings and a sweet tea soda. 422 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: All right, staying with this theme, Yes, if you were 423 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: to come into Luke's Diner, what would you order and 424 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: where would you sit? 425 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: Okay, the first thing I'm going to order is the 426 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: hot chocolate because I love hot chocolate. I don't care 427 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: where I don't care what time of year. I love 428 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: hot chocolate. I want whipped cream on top. I want chocolate, shadies. 429 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: I may gill a bit overboard about what I want 430 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: in my hot chocolate. And I'm gonna sit in the 431 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: back by the window, okay. And the reason I shows 432 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: that seed is because I'd like to see people coming in. 433 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: I also like to see what's going on outside. I 434 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: also like to see people's faces as they the anticipation 435 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: of coming into a restaurant and what they're going to 436 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: have and their experience. So I like and then I 437 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: like to still watch them after when they order and 438 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: as they're eating. So it's a whole experience for me. 439 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: Interesting Carla Hall, ladies and gentlemen. Great talking to you, 440 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: great meeting you. Check her out at Carla Hall dot com. 441 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Her magazine. Her virtual magazine is called Sweet Heritage. Second 442 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: issue is coming out or it's already out ye time 443 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: in July. That'll be out in July. Thank you so 444 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: much for your time, continued success, A joy talking to you, 445 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: and good luck with your one woman show. That sounds fantastic. 446 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Go check chuck her out in Only Maryland at the 447 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: Only Theater is that what it's called yet the only theater. 448 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: When are you previewing this? And when's it gonna when's 449 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: it gonna hit? This? 450 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: Twenty six? It always feels like yesterday, but may have 451 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: twenty six. 452 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Go check her out. Carla Hall, ladies and gentlemen, thank 453 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: you so much, Carla, thank you. 454 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: This was fun. 455 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. It was really great. Hey, everybody, 456 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: and also again, follow us on Instagram at I Am 457 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio 458 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: dot com