1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to between the horns. It is Thursday, July eighteenth, 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: is eleven a m. Pacific time here in the city 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: of Agora Hills, California. DeMarco, how are you? I'm good? 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Kingpin? My man? I don't want 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: to start here? My god, how can you not all right? 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Thank you? So we had all right. So yesterday the 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: media team, we had a team outing, is we go 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: like to inside stuff for days? Right? Yes? In Woodland Hills, 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: good good facility there. We appreciate them for taking care 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: of us. And so yes, there was a game yesterday, 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: the last game that we played on our lane, and 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I bowled the highest score of the day. Yeah, it 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: one seventy six and of your life, of my life 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: at one point the funniest part. At one point I 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: had four strikes in a row. Right, So basically everybody 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: stops and then they start looking at me. Oh you 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: got no going yes, yes, exactly that. So when everybody's 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: looking at me and the like, going for my fifth 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: strike in a row, I bowl a gutter ball. Oh 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: they stopped looking at me. I spare it, but I 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: just I get all the fens on the second. Yeah. 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: But that not getting not getting that strike like probably 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: made the game so much worse because you get zero 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: pens and then that affects everything that you've done in 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the previous couple of rounds. But yes, do you think 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: you're well, I mean, if you nail a strike there, 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying, the game would have 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: been really unbelievable. Wow wow wow. So and that that's 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: like going up in stages from SOCCATU to your best 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: game ever pretty much. Yeah? Okay, so that and the 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: one where you rolled. Your best game ever was the 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: money game, right well, I you know it was for 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: it was for entertainment poro. Okay, so that makes you 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: a hustler. Oh no, that makes you a first class US. 35 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I be you turned it on what 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: it mattered most, maybe, But first of all I beat 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: you early on. Oh okay, fair enough I did. I 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: was distracted though I had my four year old you did, 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: and that's that's fair and that's fine. However, I would 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: just say that I beat you just like I did 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: in top golf a couple of years ago. Fair enough, 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: you win anyway. They're just uh, twenty nineteen is going 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: to be getting even between you and athletically. Okay, maybe 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: we'll see I'm gonna start picking the games here. Okay, 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: all right, Well we just are now over a week 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: away from the start of training camp. As we get 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: into things we probably should be talking about, you know, 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, we can do some some warm up stuff. Yeah, 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I'm geeked for camp. Can't wait football. 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: Will you know, guys will be on the field doing 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: football stuff, which means football is back again. I can't 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: wait for a preseason. Preseason is like the most fun 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: time of year for me. I know you love preseason. 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: I say this every year I do. I love it. 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: I can't stand that people hate it like you. Okay, Okay, 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: when I brought it up, You're like, I hate preseason. 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I just all right, Like this is not 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: maybe a kosher thing to say, but August is such 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: a tough month for me professionally because you're stretched very thin. Yeah, 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: and so like, there are points where I basically lose 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: my mind every August because it's constantly lose his mind 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: in August, Belichick. Okay, yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: saying that he doesn't lose his mind in August. He 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: loves August when he stretched, because you should show the guys, 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: every single player in uniform respect okay, knowing who they are, 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: where they're from, and what their story is. Do you 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: think I don't do that. I'm just stretched. Then you're 68 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: saying stretched, Then you're looking at your Why. I just 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: mean personally and professionally, like you know, the way we 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: do it. It's difficult. Not have you've been doing this 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: five years? How can you be stretched? Then in August? 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: You know it's coming every year. I know, but you're 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: like the bone head that fails the drug test. You 74 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: know when it's coming. I'm just saying, why are you 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: doing this? I'm just saying because you said, like you 76 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: your food, I'm gonna be no. It frustrates me. Come on. 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: Preseason is great. I enjoy seeing the players in uniform again. 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I enjoy going to different stadiums and seeing guys who 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: are trying to fight for a roster spot and seeing 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: how they're going to emerge. But the thing I enjoy 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: the most about the preseason is really the structured practices 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: that you get against different teams. Right, so the Rams 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: are going to face off against the Chargers, and a 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: couple of practices when in Coast to Mesa, when at 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: ec Irvine, and then they're going to go up to 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: Napa they're going to face the Raiders and a couple 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: of practices as well. So I think those things are 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: kind of the most valuable things that you can get 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: out of the preseason. And then heading to Hawaii for Dallas. 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: Right are they practicing against Dallas before? They don't believe, 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: so we have to clear that up. I'm not sure 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: if they do. But that's your preseason right there. So 93 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, when I heard about the schedule way back, 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: You're going to Oakland, You've got the Chargers, and then 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: you're going to play Dallas in Hawaii, I'm like, well, 96 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: there's your preseason. So don't expect to see too many 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: starters in preseason. I don't know why you would expect 98 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: any starters to play preseason anyway, based on last year exactly. 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: When you're getting this much quality work against other people, 100 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: that's basically your your preseason. That's the way I like 101 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: it too, because it is controlled, you know what I mean, 102 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: games anything can happen when you're going from snap the whistle, 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: you know, from start to finish to the ground. Strange 104 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: things happen. Absolutely, accidents happen, but in a controlled environment 105 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: you could keep guys healthier and get good work at 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: the same point. Well, and this is what we talked 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: about last August, right going to Baltimore, and why that 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: was valuable, why that was important for the team. When 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you go to a place where you're not going to 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: see those guys throughout the regular season, etc. That is 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the place where you can really try different things and 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: you can say, all right, we know what this is 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: going to look like now against a defense like this. True, 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: you know your offense like this as the case, maybe 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: I like doing that going away. It builds character, It 116 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: makes you come together as a football team. Also as 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: a coaching staff, gives it gives you a chance to 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: evaluate guys away from home and how they behave you know, 119 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: can they follow the rules when the environment around them changes? 120 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Sure? Yeah? Can you maintain 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: discipline the same way? So I think it's great. You 122 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: may be able to if you're if if a guy's 123 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: on the bubble to begin with, you may be able 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: to make a decision on the guy just based on 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: how he traveled that week versus how he practices. If 126 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: that makes sense, I think it does. Yeah, So before 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: we go any further, I do want to say, if 128 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: you are interested in coming out to training camp, and 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: you should be, be sure to go to the rams 130 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash Training Camp to register for your free tickets. 131 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: You'll be able to do that on site as well, 132 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: but it is definitely more convenient if you do it beforehand. 133 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see you all there next Saturday, 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: four o'clock the first practice at uc Or vine gates 135 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: open at noon or excuse me, at two o'clock to it. 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: If you get a weather report. Did I get a 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: weather expect hot? Forget it? I mean a hat, bring 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the sun block, you know, make sure the baby's head 139 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: is covered. It's it's southern California in late July, early August. 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Just saying hot, right, Just say, don't leave looking like 141 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: a lobster, no doubt. But what are you most looking 142 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: for is seeing once we get to training campus there 143 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: any position group, any particular player you want to see 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: h Brian Allen and Jared Goff. Jared Goff, you know, 145 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: thinking about it on the way in today, and you 146 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: know would you be surprised if he had to lead 147 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: the league and attempts this year, Jared Goff in terms 148 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: of passing attempts. Passing attempts, Okay, yeah, I would be 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: surprised become one of the elite pass guys, you know, 150 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean just in terms of sheer numbers, Like you've 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: got to put it up X amount of times per 152 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: game to win football games. Okay, Well, if that's the case, 153 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: then the Rams, if Jared Goff has to lead the 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: league in passing attempts, I think that means a couple 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: of things. Ay, the Rams aren't winning games the way 156 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: they would want to. The defense is not playing as 157 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: well as they would want it too, because it would 158 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: mean that the Rams have to keep winning these shootout games. Right, 159 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: could be? Right? Right, that's so could be? Do you 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: think that both of those things are fair to assume? Definitely? 161 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: But I mean going into year four, I mean, most 162 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: of the elite quarterbacks take off in year four, you know, 163 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: regardless of situation. I mean, when you get thirty two 164 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: forty starts in I mean consistent consecutive starts, the game 165 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: starts to slow down. So maybe as a play caller, 166 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: maybe as a quarterback. You're more apt to say, you know, 167 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: if it is to be, it's up to me, you 168 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean that sort of situation. The best 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: situation for us to be in to move the football 170 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: is coming out of my hand, you know. And that's 171 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: what happens with elite guys in year four, They just 172 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden take off. So those best of 173 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: your career high start happening around year four or five 174 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: and six. Yeah, for sure. But I think even so, 175 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: the Rams have tried to set themselves up to still 176 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: be a run first football team, right And I think 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: even though Jared Goff's numbers have improved dramatically if you 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: consider his rookie year, but they've improved year by year 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: since McVeigh has been here. I think you still want 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: to be that run first team. And that's why you 181 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: have somebody like Todd Gurley. You paid him, You paid 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: him to be the bell cow back. Now we can 183 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: talk more about the knee if we want to, and 184 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't really want you right now. But then you 185 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: also have a guy like Malcolm Brown. You brought him 186 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: back to be the second running back. You brought in 187 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: Daryl Henderson right to be another threat running the ball 188 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: or catching the ball out of the backfield. So I 189 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: think in those ways, I would not expect Jared Goff 190 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to lead the league in passing attempts. We'll see. That's 191 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of my point. I mean, like you have and 192 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: I guess they've gone just to the edge of saying 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to manage Todd Gurley a little bit 194 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: this year. Now we've said Todd's gonna do what Todd does, right, 195 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, give him the rock, yes, but at 196 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: some point I think we're going to expect them to 197 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: manage his workload. Correct. I guess that's a fair assign 198 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: So if you if you're in a dogfight, key situation, 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: take yourself to any Monday postgame when we're getting ready 200 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: to talk to the coach or listen to the postgame breakdown. Right, 201 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: So you've got Jared Goff in the game with Woods, 202 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: Cooks and cup let's say cups healthy, and maybe Todd 203 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: is out, and you've got Malcolm or a rookie back 204 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: there and the game is on the line. Well, I 205 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: don't expect you to turn around and hand it off 206 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: to a backup or a rookie. Yes, I expect Jared 207 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Goff to have to sling it around a few times, 208 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, I feel confident with that, 209 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised. And if Jared Goff had 210 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: that that final game versus the forty nine ers. I 211 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: think he's up over six hundred past attempts last season, 212 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: so why not add fifty more? Yeah, I think he 213 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: can handle that going into his fourth season, right. Yeah. Now, 214 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: if you look at attempts per game last year, Ben 215 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was number one, He had forty two point two 216 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: attempts per game, and then you had Andrew Luck, Joe Flacco, 217 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: Nick Foles also in there because he played a bunch 218 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins. You have to go all the 219 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: way down to thirteen in terms of quarterbacks to find 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Jared Goff with attempts per game, and that was at 221 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: thirty five point one. Tom Brady was one ahead of 222 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: him atty five point six, number twelve. So I bet 223 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: he climbs this year. I mean, considering he's moving into 224 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a contract year, but contract cosideration what 225 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about extending him, So I bet those numbers 226 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: start to climb, so you would expect that he would 227 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: have more like thirty seven thirty eight passing attempts per 228 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: game that as opposed to around thirty regardless of game situation. Okay, 229 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: like if they're stopping the run that day and you 230 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: have to throw more, No, I think he's going to 231 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: throw more anyway. I think you should use your quarterback more. 232 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: He's one of your more experienced guys on the football 233 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: team at this point. Yeah, absolutely, so why not use 234 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: that weapon more often than not? I think that's fair, 235 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and I think that he has the weapons around him 236 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: in order to do that. You know, I was reading 237 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: something on NFL dot com this week and it said 238 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: that they think the Rams have the top skill sets. 239 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Excuse me, No, it wasn't NFL dot Com. This was 240 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: ESPN's Bill Barnwell. He rated top offensive weapons around the league. 241 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: So last year, Kansas City was number one. This year 242 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: the Rams are number one. So he's talking aboutout Kansas City. 243 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: I guess that. I think he's more saying that Kareem 244 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Hunt because he's suspended and Tarikhill. Maybe, well, Kareem Hunt 245 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: is now with Cleveland, right, I know, Kareem Hunt gone, 246 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: and then now trek Kills in trouble. Maybe I guess 247 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: that's how Kansas City takes a step back because Mahomes 248 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: is still there. Well, no, no no, no, it's it's not 249 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: it's not including the quarterback. Oh yeah, really Okay, you're 250 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: not including the quarterback, offensive line or scheme. You're just 251 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: talking about the skill set, the skill weapons the Rams 252 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: are now I head to the Chiefs. That's what he says. 253 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: So get based on your running backs, your wide receivers, 254 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: and your tight ends. Okay, the running back has to 255 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: count for a lot, absolutely, Yeah, tight end you'd have 256 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: to give the edge to them, no doubt. Yeah, with 257 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: all due respect the receivers. I mean, is he assuming 258 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: tree Kill is not going to play? I don't think so. 259 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: I think even including trek Hill and you also have 260 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: them there Sammy walking. Wow, but but look, I mean 261 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: that's a toughie though. I mean, I'll take these the 262 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: three the Rams have. I'll take cup I'll take Cooks, 263 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: and I'll take woods. You know how we feel about them. Yes, okay, 264 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: let's put trek Hill on that same roster with is he? 265 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: Is he the fourth receiver off the bench? Well, I mean, 266 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: are you just going four wide, it's a race car 267 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: and that point. But I think you even have to 268 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: include Josh Reynolds in that conversation. We're talking about the 269 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: Rams based on what he was able to do in 270 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. I'm glad you brought 271 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: him up. Man, I mean guys that had break through seasons, 272 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: because he hadn't had a breakout season yet, he had 273 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: a breakthrough. Okay, Right, he's a guy you can trust, 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: He's a guy you can throw the ball too. What 275 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: between breakthrough and break out? Yes, break out? I mean 276 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: you're a league leader, You're you're amongst the league leaders. 277 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean you came out of nowhere to like, who 278 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: is this guy like you? Julio Jones. You talk about 279 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: all the top receivers in the league, and then all 280 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden you talk about Josh Reynolds out of nowhere. 281 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: That's breakout. Breakthrough is you become a consistent contributor for 282 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: a pretty good offense. Okay, I think that's Josh Reynolds. 283 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Don't think you've arrived or don't think that that ceiling 284 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: um that that you can't crack that glass ceiling and 285 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: become a starter, you know what I mean? And don't 286 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: think that the guys behind you aren't trying to chase 287 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: you down for that spot. Cadarrel High is a guy 288 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: that everyone likes. Mike Thomas is a guy that we 289 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: haven't seen much out of as a receiver, but the 290 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: guy can roll. Yeah, and this is probably his make 291 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: or break. Wouldn't you say? Yes? It is? I mean 292 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: it's his contract here. Yeah. So I mean, if you're 293 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: talking about running a race or the wounded faun in 294 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: the Serengetti. You've heard this before, right, yes, Okay, you've 295 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: said this on the podcast. Then which receiver do you 296 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: think you can catch if you're outside the top four? 297 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: Probably Reynolds. So don't think you've arrived just because you 298 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: had a breakout or a breakthrough seasons. Excuse me, I 299 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: almost got myself confused. Yeah didn't you? Yeah, But I 300 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: mean it happens before where guys get a little bit, 301 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: they become spot starters, and they walk into training camp 302 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: thinking their spot is secure when the guys behind them 303 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: got a whole lot better, right you know, So don't 304 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: think your spot is safe? Well, if you're outside the 305 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: top three, Yes, And I think one of the things 306 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: that you have to think about now is the fact 307 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: that Cooper Cup is slated to be back, right, Like, 308 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: we all know that Cooper Cup, when healthy, is one 309 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: of the elite slot receivers in the league. And I 310 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: think that football players periods. Yes, I was going to 311 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: sort of hedge myself through by you know, also saying 312 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: that I think he's one of the better wide receivers 313 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: in the league regardless of where he's playing, because he 314 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: can play all the different spots. Right. That is one 315 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: of the things that the ram's really stressed. You need 316 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: to be able to play in the slot, on the outside, 317 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: on the other on the other side, you know, xcnf A. 318 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: I can't get I can't nail coach mcvaigh to this, 319 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: but I would bet he's like your emergency emergency quarterback. 320 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm serious, if you need to get through, like if 321 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: you have a situation where you just lose everybody. Yes, 322 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I bet he's the guy you put in at quarterback 323 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: just to get us out of this quarter out of 324 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: this game. Hey, maybe it's him or Hecker could be Wow, 325 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker. I mean, yeah, he's thrown a few passes 326 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: before in pretty key spot. Yeah. I think basically the 327 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: thing that was interesting to me about the Barnwell piece 328 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: is that he's saying the Rams have such elite weapons 329 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: at running back, at wide receiver that that's what really 330 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: puts them over the top in terms of having all 331 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: the skill sets that a quarterback could really want to become, 332 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: like to really be effective. It does that make sense, 333 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: it does. It's just those ratings, man, I mean this 334 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: time a year for me, it drives It makes me 335 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: like want to like peel my skin off with my 336 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: fingernails because all these ratings and yet come out as 337 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: consent and July. Man, it drives. It drives you nuts. Right, 338 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: So if you listen to the ratings, Philadelphia is the 339 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: best team in the league, ye buy a wide margin. Well, okay, 340 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: they're one of the best teams, you know what I mean, Yes, yeah, 341 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: But with these rankings and how they come out, it's 342 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: just sort of crazy. So I did see the Madden 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: ratings about the Rams, and all three receivers are rated 344 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: what close to ninety They are rated at eighty four 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: or high is eighty four yea, And then you also 346 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: have both e sees me Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks 347 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: are eighty seven. I did see some I heard some 348 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: shouts from the Peanut gallery about Todd Gurley's ranking at 349 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: ninety seven. Yeah, why wouldn't he be a nine? I 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: have no idea, Yeah, exactly. Well, the only thing is 351 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the question mark on his knee. Well well, but that's 352 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: the thing, right If everybody thinks he was hurt last year, 353 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: then if he's healthy, right, then how is he not 354 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: the same player? Right? Like it's you can't have it 355 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: both ways? Right? Did we tweet about this or talk 356 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: about this? Is Todd Gurley eligible to when comeback player 357 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: of the Year? You tweeted about this? Okay, but is 358 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: he I don't think so. How can you say come 359 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: back when he had the season that he had last season? Right? Yeah, 360 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: scored twenty one touchdown. I don't know if that qualifies. 361 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: I would say that it wouldn't. I know. That's crazy, 362 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: I think. And I what I responded to you was 363 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Rightoper Cup is on the same roster, and 364 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup actually has something to come back from, right, 365 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: That's what I called you, Charles Van Dorn. I don't 366 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: know who Charles Van Dorn is you have Charles v 367 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Do you have Google? Don't you? I don't. Yeah, and 368 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: when you have a spare moment, okay, if you're not 369 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: stretched too thin. She brought up Madden though, I think, yes, 370 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: I think Madden conversations are interesting. Do you still play Madden? Oh? Yeah? Really? 371 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? I like you know, like I used to 372 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: not like? Okay, but do you like get it every year? Like? 373 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: What do you play it on PlayStation? Okay? Yeah? I 374 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: mean I'm a play are you Xbox PlayStation? So I 375 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: have mostly been an Xbox person like throughout my adult life, 376 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: but I got a PS four a couple of years 377 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: ago because I wanted to play MLB the Show. Yeah, 378 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: and like, I don't really use my Xbox very much anymore, 379 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: mainly because all I do is play MLB the Show 380 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: to relax. See I'm with you bomb. PlayStation is like 381 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Nike for me, Xbox is like Rebox. I don't really 382 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: buy reinteresting. Yeah I don't really, and I'm not the same. 383 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good on PlayStation, but if you put me 384 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: on an Xbox, I'm not as good for something that's fair. Yeah, 385 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm a PlayStation guy. So yeah, I do play Madden then, 386 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: So what was your point with that? No? I just 387 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: I was wondering because I think it's interesting the way 388 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: that people kind of freak out sometimes about these Madden ratings. 389 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: You mean the players or the fans both. Yeah. Well, well, 390 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: the player reaction is understandable, and it's it's it's nothing new, 391 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: it's just the medium has changed. When I was playing, 392 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: it was if you got snubbed my lends the magazine 393 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: when they had the season previews. Yeah, if they had 394 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: the wrong guy on the cover in your region, you 395 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: were mad about that. If they you know, they downgraded you, 396 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: like as part of a team weakness, you got mad 397 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: about that. I remember London Fletcher. He would always say 398 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: it didn't matter to him, but he read everything. He 399 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: read everything, everything that had his name, he read everything, 400 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and he would always remind the guy when he saw him, 401 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: whoever wrote it, Yeah, about what you said about me. 402 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the player reaction is nothing new. 403 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: It's completely understandable. They're competitive. Sure, you want to be 404 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the top of everything you do. Well, now, were you 405 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: playing Madden when you were in the league? Uh? Yes, 406 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: do you remember? It was? It was yours beginning stages. Yeah, 407 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: you know they say my ninety nine guy, that's seventy 408 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: five and ninety nine is when you picked the team. 409 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: Going back a little bit, this is funny. Um, you 410 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to pick the ninety nine Rams because it 411 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: was an easy win. Yeah. Yeah, they had so many weapons, right, 412 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: so they said when they were on defense, I was 413 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: the guy they used. Huh. Yeah, so that that was cool. Okay, 414 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know if there's a rating. We didn't 415 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: really look at ratings back then, but I was the 416 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: guy that used for instant pressure. Would you like to 417 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: know what your Madden rating was? They have my Madden 418 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: rating two thousand in the Madden two thousand and one. 419 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: Guess why don't you guess? No, not two thousand. I 420 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: was hurt. No, No, the Madden two thousand and one 421 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: is for the season two thousand. I hurt in two thousand. 422 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I know you were hurt, but they didn't have online updates. 423 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: So this is the year after the Rams won the 424 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Okay, what was my Madden rating? Yeah? Yes, 425 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Just tell me ninety nine there, Yeah, 426 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: you're over rating yourself just a bit. But here's the screenshot. 427 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Tell me, what is the screenshot of the roster? You 428 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: were in eighty nine overall in Madden. That's not bad. 429 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: And one no, it's pretty good. That's not bad. It's 430 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: very good. Actually, rayag knew was ah, yag knew it 431 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: was eighty six. Eighty six, that's you damn right, yeah, 432 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: asked two standing absolutely shop Yeah see I told you. 433 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: See Aaron Donald didn't just make this stuff up. Your 434 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: speed was sixty five and strength at eighty five. I 435 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: found this this morning. Now that's backwards. Yeah no, yeah, 436 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: that's completely backwards. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they weren't doing things 437 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: quite is tailed going over film maybe as they do. 438 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: I remember when when EA Sports was when they first 439 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: started asking players for input, right, yeah, and I told 440 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: them why. It was so frustrating as a defensive player. 441 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: This is like the first two or three games that 442 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, the offense would snap the football and 443 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: you would like pose it a couple of steps in. Yeah, 444 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: they would get three steps before the defense even freaking moved. 445 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is ridiculous, no wonder, right, So they 446 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: started changing stuff and now it's I can't tell the 447 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: difference sometimes, but between between live action and like video 448 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: game simulation, it's gotten so intricate. It's it's incredible. Yah. Yeah, 449 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: so I think it's very interesting Madden, I think now 450 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: it was so hard. Yeah, it's just it's gotten so 451 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: much harder. And when I was growing up, I used 452 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: to play it on computer. I was big into franchise mode. 453 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: Like there was one time, like I moved a franchise 454 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: to Manhattan and called him Manhattan Kings. Wow, and then 455 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, like I was, it was like this 456 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: is probably Madden two thousand and eight, and I think 457 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: I got to like twenty twenty five in the game. 458 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, I think for people like you and you 459 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: missed this completely, you would enjoy Tech Mobile. It pre 460 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: dates Madden. Yeah, I've heard about Tech Mobile. Tech Mowle 461 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: was just straight up just hit the end zone as 462 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: many times as possible. Yes, Yeah, less strategy, more fun. 463 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: That's can you juke a guy with a joystick? That's 464 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: what it was. That's that's sort of why what I 465 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: was saying, Like when I play MLB the show, I 466 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: play it to relax, Like I like to hit just 467 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the home runs with my my player. Nice. The last 468 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: season I played, I had a hundred home runs in 469 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: a season. It was ridiculous, like two twenty RBIs in 470 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: four fifty five, Like, but that's what I'm saying, like, 471 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't play video games to get stressed out. I 472 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: don't need in my life, like, yeah, if he throws 473 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: a pitch down in the middle, I want to send 474 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: it over the fence. I feel you. When I played 475 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Madden just for fun, you know, when I wasn't competing, Yeah, 476 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: I was always the punt returner. Oh yeah, you made 477 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: yourself I got to Yeah with my fantasies. Absolutely, But 478 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: isn't punt returning like one of the hardest jobs in 479 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: football real football? Yes, yeah Madden. No, would you ever 480 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: want to be a punt returner in real life? No? 481 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Because I certainly would not. No, No, No, I was out. 482 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I had to do special teams for the first two years, 483 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: and then some of my fourth year when I was 484 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: a rookie covering a punt, I saw a guy get 485 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: his jaw broken right in front of me. No, yeah done. 486 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: I got to get a sack tonight. I'm getting off 487 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: this damn special teams. This is crazy. Yeah yeah yeah, 488 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: but no, I wouldn't want to be a punt return 489 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't need. It's like everybody's coming at you. No, 490 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: and like trying to have a car crash. Basis when 491 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: you got a good one, woo, that changes every It 492 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: absolutely does, it absolutely does. You brought up Ray Agnew 493 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: because he was on the roster. Yes, yes, so he 494 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: is one of the better nose tackles that the Rams 495 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: have ever had in franchise history. He pointed this out 496 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: on Twitter the other day and I thought it was 497 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. So Greg gaines he has to be He 498 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: has a chance to become one of the better franchise 499 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, nose tackles at the franchise here drafted. Yeah, 500 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: pure nose. Yes, that's what you're drafted to do, is 501 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: just be the nose exactly. Not like Brockers where you 502 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: were three and then they slide to the nose because 503 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you get a d yes or Adam Carriger going way 504 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: back when, and it's nothing against Adam. Adam was a 505 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: five technique defensive end of Nebraska, Nebraska, and they wanted 506 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: to make him a nose tackle. Well, he's six foot seven. 507 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough. How do you get him all 508 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: the way down to play nose? Right? As far as 509 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: pure nose tackles, the best I've seen that has ever 510 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: been drafted by the Rams is big Grease Ryan Pickett 511 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and one. So it's been a 512 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: while now, you've, like Sue came into play nose for 513 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: a bit, he's gone. So you've had some pretty goods 514 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: guys that have played nose here. But as far as drafting, 515 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be the best 516 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: pure nose the Rams have had well, right, And I 517 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: think that's the point you're making, right, Like Ray Agnew 518 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: came in as a free agent, he was drafted in 519 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: the first round by New England back in nineteen nine, right, Yeah, 520 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: so then he comes in and now he's playing nose 521 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: tackle and exactly running matan. You guys win the Super 522 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Bowl and now you're friends for Lifeenseque, that's my guy, 523 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: it is Yeah, Ray Agnew now the director of Rams 524 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: pro personnel. If he didn't know, dude, every time we 525 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: take the field, we touch it exactly, yep, exactly. But 526 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: I think what you're saying about Greg Gaines is interesting 527 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: because he does have a chance to start at the 528 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: nose in the Rams Base three four defense. However, somebody 529 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: else the Rams drafted last year, Sebastian Joseph Day, does 530 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: have a chance at that spot as well. Right now. 531 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: This is now, This goes into a whole different conversation. 532 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: So just keep me on point here. Okay. Something you're 533 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: gonna miss about Indomican Sue, and it's not just how 534 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: strong he was. You're gonna miss how consistent he was 535 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: and how versatile he was. Remember how many places he 536 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: lined up last season? Right? So line up everywhere? Right, 537 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: So that makes it easier if you're down a few guys, 538 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: or if you can exploit some matchup, right, So don't 539 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a roving defensive tackle that 540 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: can line up anywhere, but if you do, it might 541 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: be Sebastian Joseph Day. Okay, you know what I'm saying. 542 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: So that's not pure nose. I think Gaines is going 543 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: to do one thing. You're gonna be on the point 544 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: on the center, taking that a gap, you know what 545 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Refusing to let that center off to go 546 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: to the second level to get Littleton, or to keep 547 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: that center off Aaron Donald. That's going to be your job. 548 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: But Joseph Day maybe a guy that, hey, look, if 549 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: he keeps improving his pass rush, you might want to 550 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: try him out of five. If you get in a 551 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: pinch and he has a pretty good burst, like what 552 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: we saw on OTAs. You might try him outside of 553 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: a tackle every now and then, but Greg Gaines is 554 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: gonna line up over the center and that's where he's 555 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: gonna live. So, I mean, you sort of just alluded 556 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: to this, But what is it about Joseph Day that 557 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: makes you think he has a little bit more versatility? 558 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: When he saw the good off drill right, and you 559 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: know he's competing with Aaron Donald, So Aaron's going to 560 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: be first. Yeah, yeah, I mean just because he's good, 561 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: just because he's a fantastic athlete, and he's got the 562 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: want to. He wants to be the first guy off 563 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: the ball every single time. Boys, the next guy if 564 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: it's not Brock has been Joseph Day. Okay, you know, 565 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: so that's what you want to see. A guy that's 566 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: got a quick twitch, a get off if he starts 567 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: improving his pass rush, and that's the thing that needs 568 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: to come around when you start seeing him one on one. 569 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: You need a variety of moves. You just can't run 570 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: into people and run them over in this league consistently 571 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: and be successful. Some guys can. But if you start 572 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: to develop some wiggle to your to your game and 573 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: improve your pass rush. Then who knows when they go 574 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: four down and you need to get to the passer, 575 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: he may be out there with Donald in the interior 576 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: getting to the pass because he has that quick get off. Absolutely, yeah, 577 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and that's something that the Rams definitely want to be 578 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: able to do get after the quarterback. And I think 579 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: you want to have somebody sides ninety nine being able 580 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: to do that, right right. It's it's interesting just how 581 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: effective Aaron Donald was when you look at the fact that, gosh, 582 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: you know you have all you had other guys on 583 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: this roster who can get to the QB and just 584 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: that it didn't necessarily happen as much as you would 585 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: have liked last year. This is a newer movie for you. 586 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: You've seen Talladega Nights, Oh yes, remember his partners Shaken Bake. Yeah, okay, 587 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Well that's the same sort of thing with a d 588 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: When you're out there, you want to make plays. Obviously 589 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: you're here to get paid and to make plays as well, 590 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: but your job, job number one is to make sure 591 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: he makes plays. And the way you do that is 592 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: to keep him single blocked. Yih means you have to 593 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: be a factor in there. Yes, So whoever that other 594 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,479 Speaker 1: tackle is or that end to his side, you have 595 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: a job. Job one, get to the passer, job to 596 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: make sure they can't double down on him. Be a 597 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: factor that they have to account for you and just 598 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: say we just can't leave you and go to him 599 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: right now. How do you think the outside linebackers affect 600 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: that proportion of things when it comes to helping Aaron 601 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Donald to make place? Do they factor into Well? I 602 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: know when you get Donald and Fowler on the same side, 603 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: that tackle and guard is in peril. That means that 604 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: center is going to have to come over because Fowler 605 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: is not setting anything up. He's going for his going 606 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: for blood his damn self. So he's gonna try to 607 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: beat that tackle. Well, AD's gonna try to win over 608 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: that guard definitely. So the only help you can get 609 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: is going to be that center popping out. So whoever 610 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: is at that one, whoever's that other tackle, or that 611 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: guy to the the third guy going from right to left, 612 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: whoever that guy is, has got to be a consistent 613 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: threat going towards the quarterback to at least hold that 614 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: center a beat. You know what I mean? Yes, make 615 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: him say all right. Let me put my arm this 616 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: way if I have to actually step to the other side. 617 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: That's why he put at least put my arm to 618 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the other side, so I can't put my entire body 619 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to block Aaron Donald. And that's 620 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: why I liked Sue at that spot because you at 621 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: least have to You have to respect him. You have 622 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: to honor you to there, right, So you have to 623 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: freeze the center, which means they're going to have to 624 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: employ a back or a tight end to keep you 625 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: off the quarterback, which changes the entire offense, which helps 626 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips. Right. So if that guy is not a threat, 627 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: if that guy can be blocked from that spot with 628 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: just a guard, then that center is going to be 629 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: free to roam and pick up people. So then does 630 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: that mean in a known passing situation you want somebody 631 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: like Brockers there? Love it? If Rockers is not winning 632 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: at his position, you know what I mean, He's not 633 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: winning at the five right side, Yeah, exactly, But somebody 634 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: at that spot has got to at least make that center, 635 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: have to honor where you're lined up. Yeah. If not, 636 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: they're just going to jump back on erin well, and 637 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think that you can also have 638 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: some versatility where you're getting linebackers lined up in different 639 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: spots too, right, And Cory Littleton had four sacks last 640 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: year coming after the quarterback on blitzes. Clay Matthews then 641 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: also is going to keep it back on a versatility 642 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: where sometimes he'll be lined up on the outside and 643 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: known passing situations do it and long is what I 644 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: mean by that. And then also he could be lined 645 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: up on the inside, so you're not necessarily going to 646 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: be sure where he's going at the snap. There's ways 647 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: to make you pay for doubling Eron for the attention 648 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: he sees. One of it is the other guys that 649 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: are singled up. They have to win, like Fowler on 650 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the outside. Well, the other guy I'm glad you mentioned 651 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: is Clay Matthews. Now, he's smart. He's gonna dissect and 652 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: deduce what's going on and figure out where he can 653 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: make run throughs. Especially if he lines up off the football. 654 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: He'll come to the sideline and say, hey, look, this 655 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: center is not even looking back at me. Yeah, I 656 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: can run through, right. I can either run through and 657 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: disrupt the run or I can get to the quarterback 658 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: in a blank. That sort of stuff will help you 659 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 1: take advantage of what they're doing to keep ninety nine 660 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: off the quarterback. Well, if that's just the veteran presence 661 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: that he brings, right and all the experience that he's gotten, 662 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: you could say probably the same thing about Eric Weddle. 663 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: When you have guys who have basically seen pretty much 664 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: everything there is to see from an offense, that is 665 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: the experience. That thing can make you better because you 666 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: can do what you just said. Hey, they're not even 667 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: looking at me. I know I can beat this guy 668 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: because this is some thing that I've seen before. Well, 669 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: I heard him say recently put out there, these are 670 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: the best corners he's played with. Talking about Eric Weddle. 671 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: Oh in Peterson to leave, which is great, man. I mean, 672 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: if he can dissect from the back end and have 673 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: complete trust in his corners not to get beat over 674 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the top, he can start playing the ball a little 675 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: bit more. Who knows, he may step in front of 676 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: ten passes this year maybe and be that guy. If 677 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: you if you have the better your corners, the better 678 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: your safeties can be, the more aggressive they can be. Right, 679 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I can read the quarterback I can get in throwing 680 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: lanes because I know these corners are going to play 681 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: the coverage called and play it well you know what 682 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean. Yes, yeah, well you're getting into territory when 683 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: you talk about that, like the Legion of Boom. That's 684 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: what made them so good, right yeah, well yeah Sherman 685 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: exactly Maxwell, you know, and then Earl Thomas gets a 686 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: chance to be just a prowler, yes, sneak in the 687 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: throwing lanes and just disrupt or dislodge or even pick 688 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: passes exactly. You know, that's going to be interesting to 689 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: see how he does in Baltimore, essentially replacing Eric Weddle 690 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: at that spot. You know, I think that's going to 691 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: be That defense is probably going to be very good. 692 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: As Ravens defenses traditionally, are you know who are their corners? 693 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: I would have to look. Earl Thomas is always going 694 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: to be Earl Thomas. Yeah, he's gonna make plays, yeah yeah, yeah, 695 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: hell or high water. But I mean, like guys like 696 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: Klay Matthews, I expect him to play like Junior say 697 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: I did towards the end. Oh yeah, No, matter where 698 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: he plays, he's always going to find a way for 699 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: him to be for himself to be effective. Yeah, yeah, 700 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: I can take I could take a chance here, I 701 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: can run through there. I just the more he plays, 702 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the more dangerous he gets on the field. I agree 703 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: with you. But what about Corey Littleton because I didn't mention, 704 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, he had four sacks last year. What do 705 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: you think he's got to do to really become the 706 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: guy that we say? Okay, Corey Littleton linebacker as opposed 707 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: to Corey Littleton who happens to play linebacker. But he 708 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: really he's so good at special teams and it's great 709 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: that he still does that. Don't you want to talk 710 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: more about Corey Littleton the linebacker than the special team are? Yes? 711 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: I do? Um? You know when they talk about Luke 712 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: Keekley or they show Keickley highlights, it's just him playing linebacker. Um. So, 713 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: Corey Littleton, it's special teams is involved and I love 714 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: that changes games, right, changes momentum at his drives wins 715 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: games for you. But I'd like that same playmaking to 716 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: happen on defense, you know what I mean? Sure? So 717 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: what does he have to do to get there? Just 718 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: keep playing? You're there, He's got what Let's see, he's 719 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: got a year under his belt as they starter as 720 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: the mic linebacker. Yes, right, so he calls the plays 721 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: so just like quarterback, just like we talked about with 722 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, and I think the you hit the ground 723 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: running as a defender. So after your first twenty games 724 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: playing linebacker, you've seen just about everything that they're gonna 725 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: throw at you. So play it faster, play to your instincts. 726 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I know where they're going. We'll be there before the 727 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: ball gets there. That's why Kickley so good in eight 728 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: Rocket Science. He's seen it before, he studies, and he 729 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: just beat you to the to the spot. It's all 730 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: about reacting, absolutely, Yeah, that's why he's And Corey Littleton, 731 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if people know this is crazy athletic 732 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, the guy can run. He's fat, he's 733 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy in the world, but he's not 734 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: afraid to hit you, you know. So he's got everything 735 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: you need to be successful. Well. Yeah, one hundred and 736 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty five tackles, nine tackles for loss, four sacks, and 737 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: three interceptions one return for a touchdown in thirteen passes 738 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: defense last year. So where do you think those numbers 739 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: need to go, well, you can always have more tackles. 740 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: And the first thing I think when people always bring 741 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: up where the Rams rank in run defense, he's actually 742 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: the first guy I think of. Really, yeah, yeah, he's 743 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: always I mean, because it's your middle linebackers, he's supposed 744 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: to be the guy or your will linebacker, one of 745 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: those two guys, depending on what scheme you're in, are 746 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: going to make all the tackles, especially on the runs. 747 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: So if one gets through, it's almost a guarantee they 748 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: blocked him on that play, you know what I mean. 749 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: So you can always improve there. In the passing game, 750 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who you play. I mean, 751 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: you're playing some of these special tight ends, is a 752 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: different ball game. You're going to get chances to make 753 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: plays through the air because you're going to get attacked, 754 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, yes, yes, I think 755 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: from the same point of like the run defense, the 756 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: Rams just have to be more consistent there. Just generally 757 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 1: they were thirty first in run defense during the regular season, 758 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: which is kind of it's incongruous with what they did 759 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: in the postseason for sure, and I think Don Consue 760 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: in what he was doing in the postseason certainly had 761 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that, But you want more 762 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: consistency out of that run defense throughout the course of 763 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: the year, which maybe Greg Gaines being that pure nose 764 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: tackle that will help keep Corey Littleton clean so he 765 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: gets more tackles. What was the two hundred and seventy 766 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: three yard game? Was that that was in Chicago? Chicago 767 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: was like one ninety, Yeah, Chicago, that was? That was Seattle. 768 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: I think that was Seattle at home. Okay, Seattle ran 769 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: the ball at you thirty two times or something like 770 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: that and through the ball like seventeen something. Okay, So 771 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: their their whole game plan. They're a running football team. Basically. 772 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: If you go back and look at both games versus 773 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: the Rams, I think they may have thrown it less 774 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: than forty times in two games. I would not be 775 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: shocked by that, and ran it over sixty times. So 776 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: that's their game plan. And you know, towards the end 777 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: of the year, Okay, you're a little banged up or 778 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: what have you, and they got you. But I'm trying 779 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: to What I'm trying to say is when did the 780 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: lack of run defense hurt you? When did it cost 781 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: you games? It didn't I know it cost you in Chicago, 782 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: but you could have blamed that on the offense. Yeah, yeah, 783 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: because that game was what thirteen to six, Yeah yeah, 784 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: and they had like thirty five rush attempts against. Yeah. 785 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, so every time the Rams gave up this 786 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: crazy number rushing, go back and look at what the 787 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: offense was doing or wasn't doing, and how many times 788 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: they actually took the field, you know what I mean? Yes, yeah, 789 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: Well it's interesting because in those two Seattle games, the 790 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: Rams obviously won both of them, right, so they made 791 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: the plays where they had to be made, both offensively 792 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: and defensively, but particularly defensively in that Week ten game 793 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: at home, you know where Dante Fowler gets the strip 794 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: sack and then they still are able to come after 795 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and make him throw the ball too high 796 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: on the on the sideline there at the end of 797 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: the game. So I think you want to see the 798 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: defense run defense get better, for sure. But I think 799 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: where you're kind of right and saying like, you know, 800 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: when did it really cost you games, I'm not necessarily 801 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: sure it did in the way that people expect it. Yeah. Yeah, 802 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a rank it's a number, and 803 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: it's easy to point and say they need to get 804 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: better there. But I mean, you go look at the 805 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: first two preseasons are postseason games, right, they didn't give 806 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: up more than sixty. Now, it hurt him in the 807 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl, but again, yes, the offense was three and out, 808 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: three and out, three and out right, and it didn't 809 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: really hurt them into the Super Bowl until the very 810 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: last bit of that fourth right, But the number is distorted. 811 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: One fifty four, you know what I mean, that's so 812 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: many yards rushing. You know what? I didn't yeah that, 813 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: So it's kind of weird. It's a little distorted there. 814 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: But you go back and look, Okay, well they're on 815 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: the field a lot. Well, anybody's going to run on 816 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: you if you're out there sixty five seventy five times, Yes, 817 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna find holes on you. So I'm not excusing anything. 818 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but just don't look at a number 819 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: and say, aha, they're bad there. Well, there's when it 820 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: matters most. I think they stop the run pretty good, absolutely, 821 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: And because that's what we talked about the entire week 822 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: leading up to the Dallas game, and then lo and behold, 823 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 1: they gave up forty seven yards rushing in that game, 824 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, and like they've stopped Zeke on fourth that 825 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: like it was a great, great performance by that defense 826 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: in that game, Sue in particular. Yes, yeah, so Daddy 827 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: earned that nine million, right, But that's how you have 828 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: to look at it and say, Okay, how are you 829 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: really going to replace his production? Is going to be 830 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: a by committee thing, right, But if you get that 831 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: production more consistently, then maybe you're set up better going 832 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: into the postseason in the first place, no doubt, And 833 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: look and people look can improve. We talked about slow starts. 834 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: I think we talked about slow starts defensively last season 835 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: and the season before, right, Yeah, slow starts have plagued 836 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: this defense for a while. So if you if you 837 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: start the game the way you finish it, you'd be 838 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: top ten and pretty much every defensive category. So it's there. 839 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: The ability to stop the run is there. But everyone 840 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: can improve. And it goes back to what we were 841 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: talking about Corey Littleton when you when I hear run defense, 842 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: He's always the first guy I think of, you know 843 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I think so too elsewhere 844 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: on the defense. I think this is an interesting conversation 845 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: because you have cornerbacks that are going to be on 846 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the last year of their contracts, right, You've got to 847 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: keep to leaving. You've got Marcus Peters, They're both going 848 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: into contract years. What the Rams have done, I think 849 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: decently well is set themselves up to say, all right, 850 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: if something happens and we don't have either of those guys, 851 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: we have two corners in the future that we at 852 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: least like a little bit right like. And I think 853 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: that that's not the necessarily right way to put it, 854 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: like a little bit because they do like Troy Hill 855 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: and they like David Long Junior. Kind of lots insurance. 856 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: You do have a little bit of insurance there. But 857 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: I think if a keep to leave is healthy, and 858 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: if Marcus Peters is healthy, and you have both of 859 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,919 Speaker 1: those guys for a sixteen game season and then beyond that, 860 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: I think that that's where the defense is going to 861 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: really be able to say, all right, we can be elite, 862 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: no doubt. This whole puzzle, the CBA puzzle and the 863 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: salary cap puzzle. You can't keep everybody right. But one 864 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: thing we know for certain, both corners want to keep 865 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: playing football, right, So you're gonna get paid by somebody, 866 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: so the better you play, the more you're gonna get paid. 867 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: So that's good to have two corners in contract years. 868 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: Yeh want to keep playing ball, either here or somewhere else. 869 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: So there was the extra incentive to number one, do 870 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: your job better than you did it last year and 871 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: to stay healthy, which is good for everyone else all involved. Yes, 872 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: so I think it's worth pointing this out once again, 873 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we've did it on a past episode, 874 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: but I mean, the defense was so much better with 875 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: to Leab than it was without to Leab. So in 876 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: eleven games with Talib, including the postseason, Rams allowed seventeen 877 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: point eight points per game and then three D twenty 878 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: one yards per game. Right, so in eight games without 879 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: the veteran corner, LA allowed four hundred and one yards 880 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: per game and thirty point eight points per So that 881 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: is a huge difference. Wow, I want to say something, well, 882 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: points per game. It is he's tremendous. I don't know 883 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: how to say it um without being insensitive, but it's 884 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: it's the difference between a boy. Well you have you 885 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: ever taken like martial arts classes? Yeah? I okay, it 886 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: was a black belt in taekwondo. Okay, have you guys 887 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: ever trained with the wooden swords not wooden swords? Okay, Well, 888 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: it's when you train with wooden swords, there is a 889 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: day to where they go with actual swords. Well, that's 890 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: like adding to leave, you know what I mean. Okay, 891 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: you're adding something lethal to your defense. When he's out there, 892 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: everything changes. Yeah. I think you got through that very tactfully. Oh, 893 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: thank you. Well, I can't say what I really want 894 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: to say because it's insensitive. Uh well, see now you 895 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: just told the audience's what you really wanted to say. 896 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: It's when you add a guy like that, I mean you, 897 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: you automatically get better against the pass because he can cover. 898 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: He's so smart. He's as smart as any safety in 899 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: the game, right, which is rare with corners, Yes, just 900 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: corners just run with people. But he is so smart. 901 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: And then you also get better versus the run because 902 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: he's got the mentality of a linebacker. He's not afraid 903 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: to come in there and drop a guy. So he's 904 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: just so much better when you're on the field. Yeah. 905 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: The only the other guy that's as versatile maybe Ronde Barber. 906 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: Way back when oh yeah, yeah. You always people slept 907 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: on how good Ronde was and I always liked I 908 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: did too. I thought he was tremendous. But it's the 909 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: same except to Leave's got a little bit more of 910 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: an edge and guests who trained to Leave way back when. Barber, Yes, yeah, 911 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: so it just it makes a whole lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, 912 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: both guys were on the Tampa Bay Beck and ys 913 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: to Leave obviously drafted there in two thousand and eight. 914 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see what the secondary 915 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: can do together in this season because you've got guys 916 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: who are established veterans and then somebody who's younger, like 917 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: a John Johnson who is going into his third year 918 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: and really is almost playing at that all pro level, 919 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: right right, I think, and I say that because he's 920 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: not been at all pro yet, but I think he's 921 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: very close to being at that kind of level where 922 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: we mentioned him with the elite safeties, like you're Harrison 923 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: Smith's right, Like, that's that is where I think he's headed. 924 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 1: With you, you know, I think he's gotten nothing but better, 925 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: So at some point he's gonna reach elite status, just 926 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: like we talked with Jared Goff and I think he's 927 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: going to get the opportunities this year in this scheme, 928 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: Just like we talked about with Jared Goff, you enter 929 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: year four, things just all of a sudden take off. Well, 930 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's seen just about everything. Talking about John 931 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Johnson the Third, he's seen just about everything and high 932 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: powered offenses that you can throw at him. And not 933 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: only did he play well, he he played beyond expectations. 934 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: So if he continues to get better, you there's no 935 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: question he'll finally get the credit he deserves for being 936 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: one of the elite safeties in the game. It's interesting 937 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: to hear guys are in the locker room talk about 938 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: John Johnson and the way that he plays and how 939 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: well he plays, and how much he studies, and how 940 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: how good he is basically right. I remember Marcus Peters 941 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: and I think this was even before they played a 942 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: game last year, was talking about how he thought John 943 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: Johnson is a future All Pro. He just kept saying it, 944 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: no kidding, Yeah, So it what John Johnson the Third 945 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: does translates to his teammates and they see it and 946 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: they appreciate it. What's your favorite John Johnson the Third play? 947 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: Last year? The pick in New Orleans. Oh man, no, yes, 948 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: but I got It's like, okay, you know how people 949 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: say Kanye is my beautiful dark Twist of Fantasy is 950 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: his best album, but it might not be my favorite album. 951 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: That's how I feel about that. Like, so, the pick 952 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: in New Orleans was probably his best play considering the 953 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: game situation, the degree of difficulty falling on you. Yeah, exactly, 954 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: and then yeah, it helped put you into the super Bowl, right, 955 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: that is one. But I think my favorite was with 956 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: the interception he ripped away from George Kittle in Santa Clara. Sweet. Yeah. Yeah, 957 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: that one was really really cool to watch, and that's 958 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: on a pro bowler. That's tight ends out there. It 959 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 1: was a record setting tight you know. My favorite play 960 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: is actually the other tight end, the one that was 961 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: zach Ertz. Oh yes. It was an end zone shot, yes, 962 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: and it looked like he was beaten, and then he 963 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: made up and knocked the ball away. Yeah, Hurts had 964 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: been killing people on that play all year, right, right, 965 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean to me, that is by far the best 966 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: play he made all year because he should have been 967 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: beaten for a tighter. He should have been beaten for 968 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: a touchdown on that play. And all of a sudden 969 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: he went to a whole new gear. You know what 970 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean, He's a step behind when that ball's in 971 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: the air, and he made up for it and made 972 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: the player. Okay, all right, but I mean, like I 973 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it's by fall. Yeah, because so many Okay, 974 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: but like like, like I said, we can have favor, 975 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: we can have met because there were so many great 976 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: plays that he made in that in that entire season. Um. 977 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: But I think when you think about that one specifically 978 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: that you were talking about against the Eagles, you have 979 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: to go back almost to twenty seventeen. Ye and you 980 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: got to remember the way that Carson Wentz was targeting him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 981 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: in the first half of that game that the Rams 982 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: played against the Eagles, right, and obviously that was the 983 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: game that Carson Wentz went down towards a cl Nickols 984 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,479 Speaker 1: comes in and yes, and the Eagles end up winning 985 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: that game and then the Super Bowl. But in that game, 986 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: and I've talked to John Johnson about this, he felt 987 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: like he was getting beat. He said, I felt like 988 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: I was letting the team down. I felt like I 989 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: was losing the game for us. And so you know, 990 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: he kind of went over and he like what took me, 991 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: and like spoke to himself a little bits, like, hey, 992 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: we gotta get this story right, we gotta get it right. 993 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: And then he played much better throughout the rest of 994 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: the game. So I say all that to say, right, 995 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,720 Speaker 1: your same game situation. Basically, you're in the call sum, 996 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: you're against the Eagles, you're facing Nick Foles this time, 997 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: but like, you don't want to get beat by Eagles 998 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: tight ends. And again, granted zach Ertz was at play 999 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: in the game seventeen, he was in this one, but 1000 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 1: you don't want to get beat by an Eagles tight end, right, right, 1001 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: So he's got to make up for it. He's got 1002 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: to be able to get into the back of the 1003 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,959 Speaker 1: end zone. And it's a little bit of redemption. See. 1004 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, like, to me, this is what makes an 1005 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: All Pro Pro Bowl safety. You make all the plays 1006 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: you should make when you're a position to make the play, 1007 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: you do right. You don't miss tackles, that's number one. 1008 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: So John Johnson did all that. And you don't give 1009 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: up stupid penalties. He was flag zero times all last season. 1010 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: But when you get beat over the top, when you're 1011 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: out of position, and you still find a way to 1012 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: make a play. To me that special, you know what 1013 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Like Wade Phillips, isn't You're not dependent on 1014 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: your coordinator to be a special player. It's just you, 1015 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're going to do everything 1016 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: the defense calls for you to do, plus a little 1017 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: bit more. That makes you special. It does, And I 1018 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: think that's why, especially when you have the experience around 1019 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: you like John Johnson now has with Eric Wettle. You know, 1020 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: he's got guys like to leave like Peters, like Nikel Ruby, Coleman. Slot. 1021 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: This that secondary I think really as a chance to 1022 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: be specially true. And but just this is us talking 1023 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: about him because we like him and we're around him. 1024 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: But every other team that has a great tight end 1025 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: or a back that can catch out of the backfield, 1026 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna try him. They feel confident in their guy. 1027 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: San Francisco's not going to go away from Kettle just 1028 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: because John Johnson the third is standing there. Sure it's 1029 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: going to be a battle, you know what I mean. Yes, 1030 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: so there's still some road left for him, you know. 1031 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: So maybe if you get through and teams stop attacking you, 1032 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: then you'll be called elite, then you'll be called a pro. Okay, 1033 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: all pro. Right, But I think a lot of times 1034 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: teams are going to target safety's anyway, because that's most 1035 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: of the time we're the mismatch. Well, if I got Kamara, 1036 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't care who you got, I'm going to him. Right. 1037 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: If I got Kittle, I don't care who you got, 1038 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to him. If I got Travis Kelsey, I 1039 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: don't care who you got, I'm going to him. That's 1040 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean those mismatches. Unless that guy 1041 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: over there is a game changer, then I can't go 1042 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: to eat. Okay, then he's in the racer. Then I 1043 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: gotta get creative and find ways to get my guy open. Yes, right, 1044 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: well let's let's see this year if John Johnson can 1045 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: do that. But you actually you just mentioned a couple 1046 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: of guys that are going to be in the division. 1047 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: And it's funny you've said this to me. You think 1048 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: that sometimes ram SATs might be underestimating the rest of 1049 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 1: the division. Absolutely tea, you know, And it's fun and 1050 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: every fan base that's gone through this when you've been 1051 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: downtrodden and then all of a sudden you're on the 1052 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: upswing like the Cubs, like the Red Sox. You get 1053 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: to be obnoxious, you know what I mean, because you're 1054 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: long suffering. You know, this is all that pent up 1055 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: aggression and you get to be Nana Nan Nan and 1056 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: everybody in the division. But I caution you, man, Seattle's 1057 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and they're building. Pete Carroll wants the 1058 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: mantle of NFC West champion back in Seattle. Yeah. San Francisco, 1059 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: if Garoppolo doesn't get hurt, who knows how they finished 1060 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: last year. And Arizona, like you said, at some point, 1061 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna write that ship. They're just not going to 1062 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: accept the Rams being on top and lay down for 1063 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: you every year. So just thinking because you're looking at 1064 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: rosters or because infinite lists tell you that the Rams 1065 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: are the best team in football or the best team 1066 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: in the NFC West doesn't make it. So you're gonna 1067 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: have to earn it every single year. Yeah, I mean, 1068 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: nobody would have expected what the Rams did in twenty seventeen. Right. 1069 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 1: It's hard to win back to back to back division championships, 1070 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,479 Speaker 1: especially in a sport like football that is salary cap 1071 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: so that basically you're not supposed to keep winning and 1072 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: winning and running as the Patriots have done over the 1073 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: last twenty years. No doubt, I'll never forget. And this 1074 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: is funny because we were basking in the glow of 1075 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl run on this football team, so we 1076 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: were stretched thin, so to speak. But just watching football. 1077 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: The one guy that stood out of all the playoff 1078 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: losers when the head coaches spoke was Pete Carroll. He 1079 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: was not down. He was encouraged. Their building. They finished 1080 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They're getting better. That was supposed to 1081 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 1: be a rebuilding year. Yes, last year. Yes, they're going 1082 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: to make another run at this. They're going to make 1083 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:08,720 Speaker 1: another challenge for your championship. So just careful being over confident. 1084 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 1: We when I hear Rams fans say we got this, Okay, 1085 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: yeah you do. You beat them last season, but Seattle's 1086 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: not going to take that line down. And Seattle is 1087 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: still a tough place to play, very tough, right, So 1088 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: just don't think you've got the game one. It's kind 1089 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: of crazy that the Rams have won three out of 1090 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 1: their last four matchups in Yeah, we're a blowout. Yeah, yeah, 1091 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: we're going back to twenty fifteen, right right, And you 1092 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: remember when it was the opposite way when it was 1093 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: a pit of hell up there. Yeah, right, So I 1094 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: mean it's every year. You just have to take these 1095 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: things one game at a time. And I know that's 1096 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: boring to say, but as a fan base, just careful 1097 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: being over confident, saying that you're already at the top 1098 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: of the NFC West before you played Game one. No doubt. 1099 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: I think that Kyler Murray, especially because he's just such 1100 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: a wild card. You just don't know how Arizona is 1101 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna be. You don't know what Cliff Kingsbury is going 1102 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: to bring to the NFL. And I know that some 1103 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: people might think that, like there's a little bit too 1104 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: much made about that, but I think if there is 1105 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: some kind of wrinkle, and because Kyler Murray is such 1106 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: a good athlete, think about what Michael victed with the 1107 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons right right, Like Kyler Murray is maybe faster, 1108 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: He's at least as fast as Vic. He's got a 1109 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: great army, And I think schemes now are set up 1110 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: more for quarterbacks like him to be effective and to 1111 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: be efficiently effective if you're their offensive play caller. And 1112 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: I think it is going to be Kingsbury that's gonna 1113 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: call a place for them. Well, why wouldn't you use 1114 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: your best weapon him a lot, especially when he's young 1115 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: and you know they've retooled on the offensive line. They 1116 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: got some guys coming back off injury. But if they're 1117 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 1: starting five stays healthy, then they've got a chance. They 1118 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: still have David Johnson, right, there's a problem, and I agree, 1119 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: I agree with him. I still think he's one of 1120 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: the best backs in the league. I think he just 1121 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: suffered last year through a bad offense. So if they 1122 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: get it going on and stay healthy offensively, they can 1123 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: give your problems, especially with that little guy at quarterball 1124 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald too, I mean true, he just he's 1125 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: still around. Yeah, and they got great grades for their 1126 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: draft this year. They brought in some some good talent 1127 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: and on defense. I know he's in year seventeen. But 1128 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: you pair Sugs with Chandler Jones, that's actually really dangerous. 1129 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,439 Speaker 1: Please don't underestimate them, you know what I mean? Yes, 1130 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: on any surface, home or away, those two guys are dangerous. 1131 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: Can ruin your sunday, they absolutely can. All Right, any 1132 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: parting shots before let the people go, oh, parting shots plenty, Okay, 1133 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: plenty of parting shots. None that we can say, though, 1134 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: you know that's not Um, this is so funny, have 1135 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: you well you've you've never seen rollerball, have you? No, 1136 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Oh my god, Well 1137 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm even talking to you anymore. I don't know anyway. 1138 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like you know, keep talking. Okay, football 1139 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: is fun and it's escapism, and I hope we've done 1140 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: our job because it's been tough lately. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 1141 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: that's my parting shot. I got you since you took 1142 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: my parting shot at the beginning of the show. Oh, 1143 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: I started talking about bowling. Yeah. I did have four 1144 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: strikes in a row yesterday. Wow. That is going to 1145 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: do it for this edition of Between the Horns so far. 1146 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: I am Miles Simmons. Hey, be sure to register for 1147 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: your free tickets four RAMS Training Camp at UC Irvine 1148 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: at the rams dot com Slash Training Camp. We will 1149 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: see you guys there. You got a trophy case bowl 1150 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: like two inch trophies do